Thoughts on Justin "JewWario" Carmical - Completely Unnecessary Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Pat & Ian discuss the passing of Justin Carmical and their memories of him. If you need help, go to www.adaa.org/ for more information on anxiety/depression. A portion of ad revenue from this video will be donated to them.
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Ian brings up a really good point. Depression is a fucking bitch, and as someone who's still suicidal, please just get help. Suicide isn't the way to go, please just get help. Even if you think people will make fun of you, or you'll be ostracized for being depressed/suicidal, please just get help. Even if you aren't suicidal, depression is still fucking serious. It will fuck up your quality of life, and it's not worth living while depressed. Please get help, you'll thank yourself for it.
sistaledaren
get help, dude
+sistaledaren Don't
This is the stereotypical answer/thing people say. If you are really depressed there is no way to "cure" it. Only wasting time by playing games etc sometimes helps/distracts you.
MetalGear0987
that isnt true, meds help
MetalGear0987
I said meds, not recreational drugs you fucking idiot. youre telling people who are sick that they shouldnt get help
I was in a thread about depression. People talked about this and that, then it lead into how depression isn't the same for everyone and which can be an illness. And then out of the blue someone mentions "depression, first world problems" or that people who claimed have depression are just looking for attention. Makes you lose faith in humanity y'know? When the time comes when you need the attention the most, people mocks you. That feeling of trying to grasp at reality, but all it sometimes feel like is a dream. Few people who haven't felt that, mock people who do.
John Smith The funny thing about people who think that depressed people are doing it for attention is how deeply they have no idea what they're talking about. I had the misfortune of dating a guy like that during my worst years of depression. He constantly accused me of doing it for attention, despite the fact that I am asocial and made a point of staying out of the spotlight. On the other hand, another girl (whom I'm not entirely sure he didn't cheat on me with) was a drama queen who made up all kinds of stories for attention, and he chased after her like a horny dog. He even tried to convince everyone that he had married her in a past life. It was really pathetic. In hindsight, I think they needed therapy more than I did.
You guys don't understand exactly what happens. Those people do it to people who clearly aren't depressed, and yes, there are the people who do that to actually depressed people, but that's all you're talking about.
How do you know someone over the internet isn't depressed? How can you tell someone in real life isn't depressed? Just because they say they are automatically makes them not depressed and looking for attention?
John Smith
I can tell because people who are doing it for attention because they post it over
and over
and over
and over.
Indeed. Those people who mock others in their time of need are weak and stupid.
You know, I haven't even watched one of JewWario's videos before (I have heard of him though), and this still hit me hard. It's sad that someone who has touched so many lives is now gone forever. RIP Justin. I hope it ended his pain.
Same man and after seeing videos and observing is demeanor, it fucked me up too. There are many other reasons i can relate, but he really just seemed like an amazing guy. Regarding the other comment about his wife being right outside the bathroom, idk how u got that info but if it's true, i cannot imagine the TERROR in the truest definition of the word she must of felt at the sound, knowing/fearing what just happened. Like being hit immediately with all kinds of emotions and physical responses. Wow that shit is terrifying.
have you seen suburban knights? if you haven't check it out jewwario is friggin hilarous in it but R.I.P
I kept on telling myself, right after seeing KickAssia, that I would check out everyone's videos: especially JewWario, because his bits in KickAssia had me laughing so hard I thought I was going to pass out! I never did, I figured "Oh I can get to that anytime, no worries :D!" ...Now, I really wish I did get into his videos a lot sooner, to see his passion and comedy and knowledge at work and know "Hey, I would so love to meet this guy! I wonder if I send him an e-mail if he will reply to it!". I love his videos, but they make me sad as well to know that he's gone, but at the same time he left such a great legacy. Things that will be enjoyed by many more people, and make everyone smile and laugh. There will be tears, I am breaking up just typing this, but along with those tears will be a smile and a thanks to him for what he gave to the world. RIP, JewWario, thank you and I hope that heaven has a big gaming community that you can teach to play import games :D.
Also, sorry for the run on sentences, I got kind of carried away. Pat and Ian... this was a nice tribute to him, you guys rock.
I've struggled with depression my entire life so I'll add this. If you don't want to be a burden to your loved ones you should know two things. One, you're not. The people who love you are there for you. If someone regards you as a burden they weren't ever really there for you and you're better off knowing. Two, if you just don't want anyone to know, that's an option. You can talk to your doctor. Not a shrink, but your GP. They'll usually give you something. Medication is not poison and it's not a scam. And you don't have to tell anyone. You're just going to the doc, that's all. Just a checkup. You can help yourself without letting everyone know if that's what you want.
This is beautiful guys, you're both really nice, genuine people
About 4 or 5 years ago, I guy i grew up with took his life. The guy when we were kids, got me into the original Zelda. In my life, I personally known 4 friends who took their lives. Its not something you really get over. I still live my life, best I can. Pat & Ian, thank you for sharing what you did in this video.
I found this video very moving and I resonate strongly with the things you said here, not only as a gamer, but also as a doctor and as someone who lost a friend to suicide two years ago. Too many of us suffer in silence, thank you for trying to raise awareness and encouraging people to get help.
Ian is such a thoughtful, sensitive person. I only know him from the podcast but I feel like he's a great guy who has empathy for people who struggle.
Thanks guys for your sincere thoughts on this...I'm a bit late to this video, but you guys bring a human element to these videos that is hard to find elsewhere. Doesn't really matter what you guys are talking about, it's always worth listening to.
JewWario's you are not stupid video hits me hard every time. rip
Pat talking about his aunt made me remember my aunt who passed away last year of rare lung disease, I was too sick to go to her funeral so it really never hit me that hard, but now I'm thinking about the memories and her personality. Yeah, life and death sucks. I've been battling with deep depression for ~11 years now and it's really hard to even get help for it. All my love goes to Justin's family and friends. RIP Justin.
Hope your depression gets better. My sister has a lot of trouble with depression and I love her so much and she's been depressed for a few years now.
Man try smoking a joint, before doing something that you like doing, and i guarantee youll enjoy it 10x more than you initially did. Lol i walk through the woods baked, and its a great time. Be thankful for the small things, the fact that you can see from both eyes, that you have all 10 fingers and toes, death is a factor in this twisted life we live, and it cannot be stopped. But you need to overlook the negatives in life and see the true beauty of it all. Try and see the things that others miss, your breathing is an amazing feat, and seemingly people have forgotten to analyze life for all its cimplexities, and natural wonders. Seriously though smoke a joint first.
Mitcellie
THC is a depressant and I feel like I still need my cognitive skills and normal functionality, so please go spread your pro-pot bullshit somewhere else.
Mitcellie
I do get help for it, I just said it's hard. Smoking weed doesn't solve anything, it's escapism and it's eventually detrimental to your mental and physical health, so fuck that. Like I said, it's a depressant, it shouldn't be used by people who have mental illnesses in family and I wouldn't risk it. I live in Finland where legalizing pot is not too far away. I'm not against pot, but the risks of it are too big IMHO. I do enjoy my free time, I don't need drugs, booze or cigarettes for that, I've got my guitar, music, sports, art and science to enjoy.
You're correct, I never fucking asked for a pothead to help me, you clearly haven't made your research, just like people don't look into other unhealthy things.
Cetoke I've been a medical marijuana patient for a few years. I have anxiety/depression. It's like a combination of the two. It does help me and quite a lot, mind you. You're making definitive statements like you're some kind of expert. You're not.
Why does it always seem like the good people are taken away from us far too soon? If there is an afterlife, I truly hope Justin is in a better place. His humility and lack of pretentiousness could serve as an example even to the average Hollywood celebrity. If anyone out there is considering or has considered any type of suicide, I hope that this simple phrase will remind them that it's just not worth it: Suicide is a PERMANENT solution to a TEMPORARY problem. Depression may not be 100% temporary, but there are ways of dealing with it.
Good people die because they cannot handle the horrid truth of life.
So dangerous, so beautiful.
Justin was a great man, someone that could make others happy. That is a rare and wonderful quality that many people just don't have. I didn't know him, yet he made me smile on many occasions from Retroware videos. He will be and is missed.
yes it is so sad i never knew about he or his videos until yesterday yet it was so sad to know someone who made so many people happy kiled himself
A push needs to be made to remove the stigma about having depression or any mental illness. Many who do suffer are afraid to seek help out of risk of being labelled, excluded, made fun of. It's something that I hope people become more understanding of, that if the person is suffering just saying "do something happy" isn't going to solve the issue. I hope people learn that if they do find someone that needs help to help them, or at the least guide them to someone who can help them, and that those who suffer can find the help they need without fear of being mocked or being labelled.
thanks for that. just because you cant see depression or mental illnesses.. but well, there are even people who disbelieve the existence of bacteria and viuses.. and all this kills. every time people ignore your dead fish or mock peope bacuse of mental illnss, it adds to the stigma. which kills.
I know this is two years after the fact but I think it was spot on to say he didn't want to "burden" people. He only wanted to make other people happy and he didn't want to bring the negativity he was experiencing to other people. From what I have gathered about Justin and from what his wife after the fact, is that he was suffering from depression for a long time. He had lost his job to outsourcing and he wasn't making any money from making videos that he loved to make. His wife was the only real source of income and I think after having probably a decent paying job this ate away at him slowly. He didn't feel like he was doing his best for his wife and it attacked his masculinity. When it came to taking medications it was the one thing he had control over and he wanted to "gain" that masculinity back by not taking them and beating it himself. This probably only made things worse for his mental state as he needed the medications. When he shot himself his wife said he told her that she would be better off with out him. That is something a lot of depressed people might think. They don't value themselves or think highly of themselves. As someone who has had years of depression and terrible things happen in their life I know exactly the mentality that he has had. I myself have contemplated if people would be better off without me too. Its a spiraling thought pattern and you start to think about every little mistake and thing you have done to other people and it consumes you. All you think about are the things that are wrong in your life or things you have done wrong and not think about good things or things that can become good. So as someone who has been where he has to a certain extent I just want to say to anyone reading this, you are not a burden, not everything is your fault, and that things can always get better. There is always a way to make life less sucky. If you have loved ones there, always talk to them about this stuff. Don't think of yourself as less and don't let the thoughts silently consume you. You are just as valuable as everyone else. I promise you. Anyways rest in peace Justin, my hope in the slightest is this horrible tragedy will help someone in need for years to come like myself and keep people from silently suffering to speak out and receive help.
Good on you, Ian Ferguson. Good on you. Stay positive brother.
Life is a precious gift. We all die eventually, no matter who we are. . The idea that success and fame is all that matters is constantly reinforced in our culture, and I think this pressure puts a strain on mental health. In the end, all you really have is your mind, friends and family. We're all in this life experiment together and sucks that we have to lose those who are close to us. I didn't know about this man, but this gentleman's death reminds me how important it is to live a life of compassion, knowing that every single person on this planet is suffering to some degree, even if they're smiling on the outside.
I had known about JewWario a little bit. I had seen him in a few TGWTG crossovers, never went to a convention to meet him, and really only watched a few of his videos. But I liked him, he seemed like a really cool dude. And no joke, this is how I learned about his death. I sometimes turn on RUclips on my PS 3 and leave it on while I'm asleep. That night I left it on Angry Joe's channel, and his memorial video was what woke me up the next day. Literally, the first thing I saw that day, was the news that Justin had died. I actually teared up a little when I really woke up and the impact hit me.
ehhh angry joe making them monetize moneyyy
Fuck you
I just have to add. Some of the happiest people in life that touch your soul are those that are fighting depression. They go beyond their realm of ability to make others happy because they hope it will cure their depression... (told from experience)
2 words..Robin Williams.
Ian, that was beautiful. That was one of the most heartfelt speeches I've ever heard. I can tell how sincerely you meant everything you said, and I hope your words have helped others to reach out for help when they need it.
Almost 2 years since we lost Justin. Still hard to think about it. I think sad and hurt worst is that I found out on my birthday. Just thinking I just saw him 3 weeks before at magfest during the quiz he hosted. Even saw him at retroware table in marketplace at magfest. Always go back and think you want to say more to him. Tell him how much I loved his work and his twitch streams. I know might not have helped but as someone who had seen him just before he killed himself its something that bothers them. Justin was funny and so great. I miss him still two years later. :,(
This is a completely necessary podcast.
Man that's too bad. I didn't even know about him, and I feel sad. He sounded like an awesome guy. What a loss. :(
Ian's speech towards the end made me cry. Thank you, Ian. That message is something that more people need and that even I needed. You called yourself an "Insider", so keep on fighting man.
I did not learn of Justin until after his death. His story reminds me of David Dreger "Knuckles Dawson" of Achievement Hunter. He went missing for a month and it didn't end well. Very sad. :(
ive been depressed, felt suicidal, and fortunately a very close friend got me to talk to someone and im glad he did, it got the ball rolling and got me away from that aspect, and as Ian says, talk to someone, and as a result i opened up to more people, friends etc and even friends of friends that i didnt even know, i didnt care if i was judged, just talking made me feel better about the way i was feeling by putting it out there
Got respect for Ian, Thanks for sharing
As someone who suffers from depression, heed their advice and go see a doctor. In the meantime, set goals for yourself...talk to people, vent...even if it's to a favorite stuffed animal from your childhood. Talking about it will cause it to come out and then you can start acting to take care of it before it messes you up, You gotta draw out the demons before you can cast them out.
I am also very shy, so I started to do LPs to help me with that. A year in, and starting my 16th series, I am not a big name, at all...I am an unknown...but some people do like me, knowing that one person likes what I do is enough.
Even just talking to a friend can help. I have a friend who has been really depressed lately and I had no clue until he told me so I told him to never hold shit like that from me again. I have a few of mental health issues but I worry about my friends. I don't want to ever hear of a friend taking their life out of the blue. FRIENDS ARE THERE TO LISTEN or at least real friends are. I also know it's hard to talk about that kind of stuff with anybody but for the most part it's for the better.
Ian, thanks for being the one to come out and say that depression is complicated and internal. Thanks for being the one to tell your listeners to think past all the stigmas and seek help. Thank you for being the one to tell anyone who is contemplating suicide that they are looking in the wrong place.
Because you're right, this is such a stigmatized subject it's often difficult to be open about it. You've done it though, and I genuinely got the impression that you did because you really do give a shit.
Seriously, thank you.
Thanks for listening. I wish I could do more.
Ian Ferguson I wish I could do more as well. I've lost someone to suicide before, and it was a huge wake-up call. Especially because I had my own personal brushes with it when I was a kid. I was not successful, but the one I was close to was, and it made me realize just how counter productive it is. I try to impart a sense of seriousness on everyone around me when it comes to this sort of stuff, but I often wonder how well I'm doing.
It's just nice to see someone who is relatively high profile step in and say what you said. Maybe it helped someone, I don't really know, but I try to maintain my optimism at all times.
I think it is the seeking help part that is stigmatized, and it really shouldn't be. The depression component really isn't. U always have ppl saying "oh i'm so depressed" when they are really just sad, and there is a huge HUGE difference. Depression itself isn't stigmatized IMO, rather, it's a misused word, but seeing a psychiatrist is. Honestly tho nowadays more ppl (at least i've noticed) are going to psychiatrist. If u wanna get real philosophical u can debate how humans have created high stress environments for ourselves and in order to facilitate living by "creating" civilizations, we've further complicated it. I mean that being said, i'd rather civilization and technology than jungles and hammocks!
Not that i should judge if someone is truly depressed or sad, but i'm just giving and example that does seem to happen a lot, and the term is definitely misused and overused
I respect you guys for really having a mature view about people with depression. Many times people are too ashamed to get help that could save their lives. The outlook you shared and support you show for people who do suffer mental illness I hope helps people that see this video feel more comfortable about attending to their needs. RIP
You can really tell how upset Ian is. And Pat may seem cold to a few of you but trust me, he isn't. I am like Pat in the way that I grieve in an odd way. I don't cry, or like to talk about it. Just trust that people grieve in their own ways.
I also grieve like Pat. Just because you're not drowning in tears doesn't mean that you are not sad.
Never knew about JewWario until after his death. Wish I had.
Me too man! :(
Me too :'(
Just be glad we found him at all
Alamandorious same
Same here. I'm now a fan, because he honestly plays one of the most lovable roles in the Channel Awesome movies and specials.
Simon Brown gr8 b8 m8
Depression is no joke and is possibly one of the worst feelings one can endure, it's an unexplainable darkness and confusion that completely surrounds you and sucks all the life and joy from your life. Seeking medical or therapist help is at times necessary but is truly not for everyone, sometimes medications do make it it worse and when you have this state of mind its hard to talk to anybody but they are things that must at least be given a chance because you never know, it might and could possibly save your life. RIP JewWario
This made me tear up. we need more guys like you.
I never knew him, but from what I've seen he was a very beloved person with a lot to live for.
It's truly a shame what has happened, and I can only hope that this tragedy will help others to seek help when they need it.
I now I'm commenting nearly two years after this video came out, but depression and anxiety awareness is something that means a lot to me. I never knew Justin and I never really watched any of his videos, but the conversation and message that you two had in this podcast is what hit me the most.
I suffer from major depression and social anxiety, and I nearly took my own life a few years ago because of that. This isn't something that I chose to have, this isn't something that can magically disappear overnight, I'm not some weak and pathetic crybaby that needs to grow up. No, depression and anxiety are very serious (and potentially life-threatening, depending on the severity of the case) medical conditions that should be taken very seriously. If you're telling people with depression to "toughen up", or saying that they just want attention, or harassing them and saying that you don't care about them in order to make them "toughen up", I have news for you; you're not helping. In fact, all you're doing is making an already serious condition worse. I have absolutely no respect for anyone that does this. I had to deal with one of these assholes recently, and you have no idea how damaging it was to me. Telling someone with depression to "toughen up" or telling someone with social anxiety to go out more is like telling someone with asthma to breathe harder. Trust me, I wish it was that easy, but unfortunately, it's not. Our lives are stressful and miserable enough; we don't need you to contribute to that. Unless you or someone close to you suffers from depression and/or anxiety, you have no idea how difficult and damaging it is to live with it.
If you have depression or anxiety, PLEASE, I beg of you, talk to someone about it. Some people do genuinely care about you, and those people probably couldn't even imagine how they'd react if something happened to you. Don't keep it bottled in; hiding and not getting treatment for depression is like not going to a doctor if you break your arm. If you need to rant about something, or cry, go for it; there's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing your emotions. It might seem like there's no way out, but it can be treated. You're not going to put any sort of burden on your friends; if they are truly your friends, they would happily listen to you and help you as much as they can. Talk to a doctor; they're there to help you. I know first hand how difficult it can be to open up, but please do so; it might take some time, but with treatment, depression and anxiety are nowhere near as difficult to live with. If you have a friend or know someone that has depression and/or anxiety, please try to get some help for them and comfort them. For me, a friend doing something as simple as telling me that they love and care about me can go a long way. I might not feel loved or cared about at first, but it still means a lot to me. If someone is harassing you, try not to let them define you. I know that's easier said than done, and I know it's difficult (I still struggle with this), but you're an individual, and like any other individual, you're unique. You're not what people say you are, you're...well, you.
I don't really have anything else to say. I've said enough already. I hope that people will understand and be willing to spread mental health awareness; I seriously cannot even begin to tell you how much educating people on mental illnesses means to me. Anyways, thank you for your time.
+Sassy Gary 25 and still going.....keep doing what you do no matter what!
+Sassy Gary Glad to see someone with some understanding of the issue...I am going through a tough time my self right now...I have been getting help and trying to speak to people...but it's so hard...but totally agree with you about the arseholes who do the whole 'toughen up!' routine...such people only do it to give themselves a sneaky pat on the back for 'coping' and being so called 'tough' in comparison with you...trouble is...in the economy of friendship...people are only ever prepared to give a certain amount as there are always other priorities for them...you can't expect much more...never had a friend say 'toughen up' exactly but they have said 'What do you want from me? I have my own life!' even when all you may have required is just a simple shoulder to cry on...they are alright in more practical day to day ways and support...but just don't want or don't know how to deal with something on that level...which is how most people are really...unless they are trained and have an understanding of this type of thing.
This was a completely necessary podcast.
Thank you guys so much for addressing this. I've been avoiding the subject up until now. I have recently lost my job and feel like I've been sinking lower and lower. The last few days have been the absolute worst and I've actually thought about taking my own life a few times. I always thought it was silly to tell people to seek out help, because it should be obvious to do so. However, I haven't even given it a thought but seriously should. I don't have any friends to talk to and tend to keep it all bottled up. I'm thinking about seeking out help now before it gets worse. I normally don't leave comments on videos because I'm too shy to do so and afraid of being ridiculed. Again, I cannot thank you guys enough.
Ian , I feel you, I have just started watching these podcasts and have just become aware of all of this and it cuts me to the bone. I see all the podcast about him and everyone is genuine with their awe of him and his niceness. Also everything you said about depression is right. Thank you guys for being so candid about it. It means a lot to a lot of your viewers ,that good or bad, turn to people like youse guys when they are at their weakest. The fact that it effected you in such a strong way makes us feel that we are aloud to also. Thank You. Also the youse guys in a poke at comedy relief, I too am a Jersey Boy
i would have loved to meet him, he was the kind of guy... being around would be a great experience... i have had problems with depression before... but i have gotten through it... the best thing you can do is talk to people... before things get worse... just talk to people... let it all out... keeping it yourself... isnt healthy.... keeping up appearances isnt the way to go... just talk to someone
This video is so hard to watch without getting emotional. From the loss of Jew Wario (which I have known of him and his content from blistered thumbs but, never really got into his video's.) To know someone in this great community is gone no matter if you know them or not it hurts to see someone was in enough pain not to be able to live with it anymore.
The part that makes me tear up a bit is listening to Ian's story and his rationalizations for why he's greaving. I can so relate to Ian's emotions to the point its painful to reminisce about the good times someome has but, what you lose is what could of been. What if's are the thoughts that haunt me forever.
This is really quite moving. I lost a high school classmate (possibly more than one) to suicide, and it deeply hurts. You wish you'd spent more time with those folks, and even then that never seems like it'd be enough. I wish I'd been more kind and nice to JewWario, because if I knew even a sliver of what he was going through, I'd have been there to help, or at least tried. Apathy in Internet fandom is awful, and now we won't have a guy who knew how to convey information correctly teach us more about things like the board game go, which if you saw Importing 101 Part 3 that was what was "next", and it's highly unlikely it'll happen now. :(
I was in the kitchen today and I was thinking about what I should make and I remembered a recipe that Justin did for katsudon/fried pork rice bowl.
After that, I started rewatching his cooking videos, then his YCPT series....and I stumbled on the first ever video I saw of him that made me buy my Famicom.
I'll miss you Justin. You were a beautiful person.
I'm with Ian. I hate when people say that suicide is selfish
I heard everybody's take on Justin's death. Very sorry for all of your losses. Ian's take on it was by far the most moving for me to hear. Depression runs in my family so I completely understand, and I've lost 2 friends to it. I completely understand what's going on here. My thoughts are with you guys and the whole Retroware family. All the best!
Just for the record Pat? When you cut yourself out of the picture to put Ian's story about Justin on focus, that was a nice move. Real respectful. Good on you.
I loved it when Justin would appear randomly in videos. He seemed like such a character, too bad I didn't get to see more of this iconic retro man. R.I.P.
Wow. Thank you for this. You guys are awesome. Ian everything you said was perfect. Everything you both said was perfect. Pat you seem very supportive and non judging. I can tell youre an "outsider " looking in but you dont judge at all. Ian i feel knows personally on the subject of depression. Just wow. Thank you for this video and thank you for the love towards Justin. Honestly i never liked Justin (i didnt dislike him either) but the more i saw him on game chasers the more i liked and now after hearing insight into his kindness i now see he is an awesome person and STILL is. Thank you so much guys.
I really teared up when Ian talk about the last time talking to Justin.
I feel so horrible that i didn't know about him until he died. My little brother and i have watched many gamers in the past but never found out about this amazing gamer. The greatest people are never found out about until after their death sadly. R.I.P Justin Carmical (Jew Wario). I wish you were still here man if only someone knew :(
Ian's story brought me to tears...I cry a lot when I hear about Justin, or remember him....but Ian's story stuck with me.
Does anyone remember the episode of Pete & Pete where little Pete's lizard dies and he builds an eternal flame in his memory. Little Pete wanted the whole world to remember his pet lizard so that he could live on, but in the end he had to say goodbye. Justin I wish more people knew of you, and that I could of got a chance to meet you but in the end we all have to say goodbye.
Justin Carmical gone but never forgotten.
The worst kind of depression is silent.
Alot of people who have depression will often withdraw and not tell you things etc. It's really important for people around him or her to really keep in track, take care and even if they hate it, get up in their business if have to (not rudely though, but meaning keep in track and take care of them). This is also from someone who is in an environment with with clinical depression. It takes so much out of you even as a friend, and surprisingly, alot of people sort of "give up" because they get burned out. People with depression may come off as "very annoying/spoiled/stubborn" at times, but it is not who they are. Be nice, loving and try to understand. It burns you out, but it definitely pays off when they start recovering from it.
Thank you for the podcast.
for me personally, when I first started dealing with depression and anxiety back in 2005 I felt like I couldn't talk about it because I was afraid ppl were going to think I was crazy because quite frankly I felt that I was crazy and that something was wrong with me. Obviously something was wrong with me but not in the manner that I should have felt like it was negative, or I was some strange weirdo outsider but once I addressed it after finally gathering the courage to see a professional I was able to see that I could have saved myself several years of suffering if I had only viewed it in a better light because like you guys said, depression and anxiety has a VERY bad stigma.
The feels. I never knew Justin. Never met him, never seen any of his work. Heck, I'd never heard of him until I watched this video. But this got to me. Ian is my least favorite of the two of you (don't take offense, Ian. Pat's just a super likable guy) but listening to him talk about this got to me. To the point that I have now shed tears for you and for Justin. You two are more than just a pair of talking heads, you're human. Your audience and fans are human. Your friends and colleagues are human. And it makes us all vulnerable in one way or another. Thank you for sharing this with us. Thank you.
Never heard of this guy before this but my heart goes out to Pat, Ian and the family and friends Justin left behind. My sincerest condolences. Seems like a great guy and Pat and Ian you are doing a great job honoring his memory. Keep reaching out and keep fighting. To everyone feeling bouts of depression and thoughts of suicide, if you see this video please realize the world is not a better place without you. You're not helping anyone by leaving this plane and life is so much better than death. Please talk to someone...
Aww man, I saw this while catching up on CU podcasts, and it hurts all over again. :-( Ian's story is so moving. Losing "what might have been." Damn.
if anyone is feeling depressed or just terrible all the time, please don't do it. : (
i've friends on games, (WoW, Everquest, Leagues) who i've never met but they mean a lot to me. A lot.
R.I.P justin we will miss you
I've only seen 1 or 2 videos with Justin in them, but it is really sad to hear that he is gone; it sounds like he was a great guy.
I have depression and it sucks really badly. I want to start my youtube channel and I don't know why I but I just can't do it, but I want to do it. Justin had more than me, he had youtube fame, friends and a wife. I have none of those things, NONE! I understand just be fore his death, he was retrenched from his job. I don't know for sure but that would be certainly a contributing factor. That fact he owned a gun was another factor. Here in Australia, you can own a gun, but you have to be in a gun club and registered. In the US, you don't have to be in a gun club. If I was in the US and had a gun. All it takes is one Friday night on the liquor and choof, playing with my gun, putting it to my head, just thinking about it. If he didn't own a gun, he wouldn't be dead in my opinion.
+Nigaromia Don't think about it too much, just begin uploading videos if you feel that's what you want to do. I know a thing or two about procrastination. Just start, and think about the details as you go on.
I also agree on your thoughts about guns. No one should ever be put in the condition where a single minute of "madness" can cost your (or anyone else's) life.
An advice I have for you, if you allow me, is to go out the more you can. Even if you're on your own. Look around, open your senses. There's so much beauty in nature, it will soothe you and make you feel like any day is worth being lived. Once again, don't plan it too much, just get going. Over-thinking is your worst enemy.
And when you look for friendly people, meet them in real life, not on the internet. Which kinda defeats the purpose of all I've said, but hey.
Keep on going.
Ian was phenomenal in this video, great advice in a caring and compassionate manner.
Hang in there guys. It is rare in adulthood to find a group of friends like you have in each other. I have been through this kind of thing and it is the worst. I'm sorry.
seriously someone thumbed this down whoever you are get the hell out a man just died a week and a half ago and this is what you do. Nice person you are.
Its really weird, I didn't really even know about him before his passing but after watching these videos and some of his, I feel like I know him a lot better and its sad.
i just stayed up all night watching this video. thanks alot you guys i appreciate this
holy shit, this whole time i thought it was just his character that died, damn, i feel stupid for not researching this, hes gonna be missed
I can see how much this has hit Ian. I can hear the seriousness in his voice.
Man so many things to say i don't even know if i can, but i do wanna address some issues. But first i'l say that i've gone thru and go thru lots of shit, and i suffer from severe depression. One of the first things about getting help is the stigma ppl unnecessary associate with seeing a psychiatrist. When i was at my all time low and needed help i fucking resisted and resisted and resisted. When i finally went i hated it for the first few times, then came the time when the doc wanted to out me on anti-depressants and a medication for sleep (but even tho it was for sleep the medication had other primary uses which meant i didn't wanna put it in my system), and i'll never forget my response, "fuck that. I'm not fucking crazy. No. I'm not taking that shit." Blah blah blah. Eventually though you'll realize that a psychiatrist will get to know u better than u know urself and ur family knows u, and it will be shocking and also liberating. It's not like u think where u sit there "oh how does that make you feel blah blah," at least mine doesn't do that. It really helps. I am pro at bottling shit up at it literally physically wears u down, and with a psychiatrist it is their JOB to hear these things u don't like sharing with other ppl. This is coming from someone who has good friends who don't even know about some of my major problems (things i have to deal with on a daily basis, not the fact that i'm depressed). When u are depressed it's hard to lift ur own arms up and get outta bed, and u feel like an old man in a younger body, it's terrible. After a session with a psychiatrist u may feel light as fuck, or pensive, or u even might feel worse, but at least u'll have addressed the issues at hand which is what is making u feel that way. Get help, please. Even tho i'm super against suicide and killing myself, thoughts invade your mind and it fucking sucks. I may be against suicide for many reasons actually, but if i didn't have ppl and reasons i did wanna live for, i can't imagine how haunting my own mind would be, seeing as how your mind taunts u all the time when u are depressed. At least the causes of my depression are tangible, as my depression was more a consequence than a cause type thing, but seriously i wouldn't be able to function today if i didn't go for help. GET HELP.
that does raise an issue i wanted to address. Getting help isn't always easy. Some psychiatrists don't take insurance, and a lot of ppl don't even have insurance (well in the US at least since our healthcare system is for profit, but now with obamacare maybe more ppl do, and hopefully more ppl have insurance now as a result of obamacare). For me, by law, i had to see my psychiatrist like twice a month, that's 700$ a month right there, and i'm lucky as hell my family had the means to pay for it. But still, don't let this deter u, your life is priceless, and u know what? there are places u can go for free i'm almost positive. Trust me you'll feel like an idiot at first, and may feel like "i'm not crazy why am i here," but once you are able to live again, it feels great. Well it's always a battle, but at least it won't be a lost war.
Thanks for reading and sorry for the rant, but if i helped even one other person, then fuck yeah, good.
And i wanna add that the importance of getting help is that ppl around u probably won't understand, might get mad that you are tired and just wanna lay down in the middle of the day. So many ppl forget the physical component to depression
It's nice of you to share a part of your life with us. For that I would like to thank you and I hope that your days are up beat and positive.
Wow thank you! Yeah i felt funny writing all that shit on youtube, but like i said, if i helped even one other person in even the slightest of ways, why not?
It feels good just to talk to someone that wont spread rumors or judje you.I found that older mother like women are the easiest for me.
Damn watching this is getting me emotional. Watching this makes me wish I knew the guy myself. R.I.P
Thanks for this, guys. Always loved Justin's videos and he seemed truly genuine. Would love to take you two out for a beer.
i wish i had properly discovered JewWario before i did, he probably saved my life. it was during the summer of last year, college hadn't gone so well, i had failed some exams and if i didn't pass the repeats in august i would have to drop out.
I already have anxiety issues and i think i may have had some depressive episodes during the months between getting my first results and preparing for my repeats, i basically had a mental breakdown (though never suicidal thoughts) in an environment that wouldn't be very receptive to my needs, through sheer serendipity i actually discovered the livestream where Justin made his now famous "you are not stupid speech", all through the 2 weeks i spent studying for those exams i had his videos on in the background. passed those exams with flying colours.
i don't know if there is anything after this life but if there is i hope Justin gets first class treatment, from all the good he left behind in this world he's more that deserved it.
Ian I was a lot like you after hearing about it. I only hung out with Justin a few times, and not even in person but he felt like an old friend. I did cry because I considered him a friend and also, like you, a lot of that was for what could have been. Justin and I were even planning a retrospective type video on Super Robot Wars. :(
Pat the NES Punk Great video. Love how you treated this issue with kindness, care, and love. Even though I never knew Justin and only heard of him due to his suicide, this video shows how much you did love him as a friend and I do hope he is now at rest. Much respect from me to you and you just gained a subscriber
I didn't know who Jew wario was till after the fact..
After seeing what people had to say about him, I went to check out his channel.
I saw a few of his videos and I had to stop. I really enjoyed his content and it hurt me to know that he won't be around anymore.
It's Really sad because He seemed like such a Happy Go Lucky Guy.
Although it's late, Wishes go out to his family and friends.
Thank you so much for making this video guys.
I've been watching justin's stuff since about season 2 of ycpt, and he was the man who got me into my favorite rhythm games like Taiko no Tatsujin and Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!. Taiko especially, because my love for that game increased immensely once i saw his video, and i enjoyed it so much, i love this series, and i used to go to the japan arcade in LA, i wish i could have played with him, that would have been nice. Rest in piece, man
That same week of his suicide, there was a fatal shooting at Purdue, the college I go to, and I felt very upset even though I did not knew the guy. Such a rough week for a lot of people.
I have been watching your videos for a while and I really want to thank you guys for doing this video as I did not know about jewwario or his videos and and I really wish he could have done more.
You might have thought that he was fine 24 hours before, Pat, but sometimes that "totally fine" attitude is relief after making a decision to end one's life. I am so sorry for your loss... for our loss, for RUclips's loss.
Incredible statement by Ian around the 13 minute mark - because it perfectly sums up things as they are.
All I can say about this, is, that I know how hard it is to lose someone that is important to you.
But you need to speak and and share all memories with another person.
This was a great video - Because you guys spoke about it and IAN ---- You are the best person in the world and I admire your LOVE for people and the world!!!!
You are the best IAN, Pat your great too, it is not easy to ask for help, it is not something I will do. And, I don't know how to ask for help.
Who do I ask?
Do I want to ask for help, not knowing why I feel like like this!!
It's difficult living like this, it is hard, sometimes it consumes my thoughts.
How does a man ask for help???
Is he a man, less of a man for asking???
It is just a downward spiral that makes a person feel less and the past makes us realize that we can never live it down!
I wish I could have met the guy. Hell.. I'd like to meet you guys. :)
good guys
Ian shouldn't feel bad for grieving over Justin's death, and the fact that he cried is not weird at all. He's right when he says that most people cry over the moments they had with people who die, but it's way more scarring to think about what could have been a good friendship, and even selfishly enough, the idea that you could have done something to save that person.
My girlfriend's dad died 3 years ago, and even though my girlfriend was busy dealing with it herself and didn't notice how affected I was, I miss him, and I think we could have had a nice relationship.
Please, if you suffer from depression, or even if you have dark thoughts once in a while, talk to a friend.
fella, I have dealt with depression before it was a massive thing and there was all this stuff about it, it can be hard to come out of a ruck, but the worst thing you can do is be alone, some people cant talk about things, one thing I do is I get angry as it kinda overpowers it. its a mental illness, but I have found out that there is a lot of levels to it and it can just hit without warning at times (I still have the scars)
I didnt know Justin "JewWario" and haven't watched any of his you tube videos , I will have to remedy that
.I'am a long time fan of Nintendo,old school , which Justin Carmical was, so I'm sure there is a lot of content for me to enjoy and share in his legacy .
I'm sure that in watching his videos on youtube I will gain some insight into the person he was and enjoy the passion he had for gaming
Kudos to you two guys for your tribute and may Justin Carmical be remembered for old school nintendo gaming and the passion that he had for that.
"Most of us as video gamers have our mental ticks and quirks"
There may be no wronger statement I have heard about statement. Gamers now are one of the most unique and diverse communities out there. You cant simply say we have mental "ticks and quirks" when a lot of us are average guys.
suicide is a permanent ending to a temporary problem, we all die someday, double down and traverse this road , one day you get up and your happy and stronger for it, power up
I have to assume that he was diagnosed with clinical depression and he was taking AD Rx's. Which is likely the catalyst for his actions.
I seem him alot in ppls videos HE WAS always smileing in every video with joy
I never heard of him until I watched the Video Game Years. He seems to me like he was a funny and beautiful guy who had a sadness that lingered underneath
I feel the same way Ian. /hugs
Love you both.
The last video he did at Christmas 2013 didn't look right, I only saw it after he died, but when I watch that video of him talking about his fan-art there seemed to this eerie feeling, I'm not sure if it was because I was watching someone who died two days ago which was when I watched his last video to the fans, the way he looked, I mean his voice was wavering a lot and he mentioned it was late like early morning so I saw that as insomnia caused by the depression he was going through and in his eyes and I feel bad about not seeing it before, but in his eyes, it was like he was silently saying "help me". It had that vibe about it
All I can say is that Jewario will be sadly missed, if anything he was quite the authority on Japanese grey import games, his channel should be kept on forever to serve as a tribute to him and also as a historical piece on Japanese video games.
That was a beautiful story Ian. Justin sounds like he was an amazing person.
As a gay man, my youth and teenage years - I suffered in silence. I locked myself in the garage with the car running when I was 15. I was saved by a friend - and at that moment I wish he hadn't. Now looking back, I'm glad he did. Life gets better. For anyone who is suffering in silence. Life gets better. Find yourself some positive people. get the assistance you need, and I promise you, LIFE GETS BETTER.
We lost a truly beautiful human being.