Pro vs Amateur: Fat guy but wonderful skills
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- The fat guy has won Wang Hao twice in the National team.
This is the Pro versus amateur competition in China. The fat guy is classified as the "amateur level" in China. His name is Ye Minghui. However, he is not a real amateur player. He is fat, he doesn't move but his feeling is amazing.
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Just to clarify, the club he has played here in Portugal was Sporting Clube de Portugal, which is one of the most famous portuguese football clubs, but also the biggest powerhouse in portuguese table tennis history.
When I started playing table tennis, I would see him in ocasional table tennis competitions and his quality was simply umprecedented here in Portugal, he was/still is a great, great player
He did not just beat Wang, he destroyed him. Merciless
It's a shame there are no videos of this guy. I only found one other Portuguese one. His style reminds me of the touch of the players from the 90s and early 2000s. Fantastic to watch.
He has some tutorial’s videos on RUclips
@@galaxy00hk Can you link/direct me?
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I don't think he fat at all
Cuz there are thousands of him in china lmao
This is Table Tennis. The big player is cool and relaxed and if i see him on the streets i never think he be this good. He crushed the young player. I think people quit playing too young. Experience and good technic is what wins games 🏓🏓
The guy in red is not an amateur. He was a world class player, having beaten three time Olympic silver medalist, Wang Hao when he was in the China national team
Wow never seen such smooth and calm playstyle. His servers and placement is absolutly incredible 💯
in Asia, it is less offended to call someone fat as compared to western part of the world. In fact, the national team call Fan Zhen Dong "Big" Fat 大胖， and called Liang Jing Kun "little" Fat 小胖。 It is nothing to do with fat shame instead more of respecting them played so well and fast despite their body weight.
I thought that LJK is big fat and FZD is little fat
@@eshizhamsuev you are not wrong, they change all the time.
It is still very offensive if you are serious but these are just nicknames
@@beginnercuber1143 No, the term fat is extremely common in China, and no one thinks it is insulting.
@@dlw3747 well,Idk about other areas but I grew up in Hong Kong and women were very sensitive about these topics
Americans be like: Where's the fat guy??
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And the Americans say a big fuck you! I only care he's a great player! Is he overweight? Yes, do I care no!
@@dalemiller2160 someone had a bad day
😅😅😅😅
Excellent player. Different levels 👌 . I am taking a breack from my table tennis a moment and going back next spring just picking up few tips.
We had a "fat" professional boxing champion.
Now, a "fat" table tennis player?
Alright, there's still hope for me to become the
next FAT keyboard warrior of all time.
Ye Minghui is a powerhouse! I hope he's still playing - he's an excellent player.
I love that you call him 'fat' with no mean intention. I always loved that about Vietnam. If someone is labelled as fat, it's not usually an insult.
Yeah but it is still bad to be fat because at least bad for health especially long term.
Yeah, FZD nickname in fact is translated "little fatty"
The term, fat, is socially acceptable across Asia, not just Vietnam.
Fantastic reading of the game n great feel for TT allows him to played at a leisurely pace n still inflict a heavy defeat to the opponent. 😲👌..
which blade he is using?
Ye Minguei's balancing, controlling and prediction are amazingly beautiful, appreciated to provide more analysis for him, Sebastian Stürzebecher, and Su Zhi (HKG) that has in my opinion beautiful FH top spin loop for what so called in china (Amateur) RPB Player for the time being, Thanks a lot.
I saw videos from Sebastian Stürzebecher last week for the first time on youtube and I have been really impressed👍! I look for Su Zhi now😉
Great player who knows what he's doing. Could easily be a pro in Germany with that little hand.
Nice to see that you don't need a six-pack for table tennis.
I like - Best man!
Don't guide yourself by the exceptions, even in basketball there was a professional player named Troy Jackson whose weight was something like 370 pounds.
With all due respect, he is not “fat”, by the definition that you are alluding to. He is simply I big man. He is graceful and powerful.
I am far from politically correct, but I like to be accurate in what I say, just as you do, coach.
nah thats a fat man and thats ok.
He is the Sammo Hung of TT
do you have link of video of the competition of the matches i want to watch!!
Regardless of the size of this wonderful player. There are two immediate things that comes to mind: 1. The understanding of the rotation of the ball, and 2. The feeling between the way he struck the ball with his paddle.
His opponent was playing one sided, thinking to out top-spinning him at every point. Reading of the arc of the spin and the rotations is more crucial than ever. Depends on the clearance from the arc over the net and the subsequent bounce you anticipated, it is very important to make that decision and 'adjust' your paddle angle accordingly. Often in the match, his opponent completely misread the amount of rotation of the spin being too light or too heavy. That caught him off guard as to not moving his feet properly or adjust his positions accordingly. Therefore, he was too late or way overhits from a far mid-distance, often at an angle where he was at a huge disadvantage.
This player was extremely smart varying a combination of light and deep chops to keep his opponent guessing. Also he has a great deceptive long, deep serve, but got a great extreme undercut so it is like a breaking ball in baseball. A faster version of the "ghost serve" which just handcuffed his opponent.
Being large does not affect anyone in table tennis, as long as the player knows how to play their own strategy properly. This was why I wasn't surprised that he beat Wang Hao twice on the National PRC Team. Despite not being selected in the elite top group. Also this showed how deep the PRC Table Tennis really is. It is completely scary for the rest of the World figuring out how to catchup.
having played some large players, I do find they can really impart quite a lot of spin on the ball in a simple lift and rotate motion, using their mass to their advantage. And they don't have to move all that much because of this control - rather other players often have to keep up with their pace.
this was a good read!
yes, you can tell this guy really is a veteran pro at the sport just by the way he handles the ball
Happy for him and encouraging for me since I have the same challenge. I really appreciate that you posted this. He had a really strong backhand.
I'm also a BIG tabletennis player... I just wish I was a GREAT one instead...!😂😉 Joke aside, it's not all that important if you're small or large if you have a good understanding of the game. To read the game well is just as important as reading the spin. You don't have to be so very quick if you can read and anticipate the opponents intentions, and because of that already be standing in the right position..... waiting for the next shot to come.
Coach Em ,he's not a fat guy ,he is husky, or stout, in Table Tennis in China if you're not skinny then people may call you fat. This player is just 20 pounds overweight.
He's not out of shape based on his dexterity and stamina and he's able to move fast when he needs to and be athletic .
In the United States, it's considered inappropriate or rude to refer to someone (man or woman) as "the fat guy" or "the fat girl". It is considered degrading to the person. It's better to say they are overweight. Just thought you might like to know. But yes, often times we call people "fat" here and it does hurt the person's feelings.
Great to see his calm style :) Also, the other player makes so many unenforced errors.
This is overweighted but not really fat. You sh
ould look up Patrick Stürzebecher, he is overweighted but has some magicall wrist and skills. Still Playing and winning in Germanys fifth league
this guy is my hero
Hey! I'm a fat table tennis player too. This guy gives me hope.
Seems to be a chinese Karakasevic.
Fantastic feeling
I was thinking the same even if Karakasevic is unique.
He doesn't move? He moves as much as me lol
The sound quality is piercing through my soul 😆
its like Brazilian Phonk
Plot twist: It's Ma Long in a fat suit
El jugador de rojo más que amateur, juega con un control y templanza de un maestro.extraordinario exponente del deporte. En cambio el jugador joven se ve que le falta
You have to mention to your followers , this boss was retired from Chinese National team😂
Guys, RUclips is not your personal cultural space anymore than it is anybody else's. There are cultures where people say words like 'fat' and nobody freaks the fuck out about it, and this video's made by someone from one of those cultures. He doesn't have to change anything just because you got all offended.
Please refer to him as sturdy and not fat. Its not fun hearing people calling names…
I agree. But it's probably a language problem
@John Burgundy No I dont think I am. Im 47kg and about 163 cm so I think i’m normal weight.
Fat in Chinese language doesn't have the same negative connotation as English. For example Fan Zhendong also has the fan nickname of '小胖' which is literally 'little fatty'
@@Ahma000 you are somehow skinny bro
@@Ahma000 thats not normal, you should eat something
He is very chill and himself. I think this gives him confidence
Referring to him throughout as "the fat guy^ can't be right surely.
Красный играет с головой, очень интересно!
Is he playing with pips? Usually players with TSP on their jerseys are.
If so, he is looping every ball with them. I believe this is how long pips will make a come back. It’s a very unpredictable ball
@6:23 excellent fading backhand smash down the line
This guy is not fat! His body is just struggling a bit to keep his massive powers inside! :-)
And btw.: he is just moving efficiently, just what's needed to be in the right spot.
Nice to watch , a bit fat with talents is fine for me . Many points gained with his serves, super.
Wow a very intresting match..the whole game was control by the guy in the red ..with slow heavy loop & good service return totally demolish the ‘pro ‘
Very interesting to watch but what horrible video quality. Frame rate has been resampled or something so there are repeated frames all over the place, giving the movement of the ball a jerky feel.
Автор, похоже любитель здесь только ты, а на видео оба профи.
the name on the mark window is wrong, Chinese style
When I think of "fat," this is not what I picture....
Very consistent player. High spin variation.
He gain a little bit of height because he was playing in Portugal.. great food :D
you shouldn't call people fat, In america we call it "fat shaming", and it's considered very rude (you will get punched in the face if you say that here.) here, if you want to be fat, that's okay, heart attacks don't put as much of a burden on the social economic system as you might think, so please don't call people fat, it's basically as offensive as a racial slur. it's extremely offensive and condescending.
Not fat but a healthy sense of balance
Fat Boy has a great return of service and block to set up 3 ball attack. Skinny Boy should use short shots to make Fat boy move.
His slomo shots are deceptive, perfect predictions & placing.
He reminds me of Otto Tennila
The way in which he slowly delivers the shot also makes him hard to read...
Минхуей, конечно крут. Но, очень уж слабо играл этот парень, как для Китая. Может он тоже любитель.
Looks like Boo 🙂 cool, fat and powerful. i love his style.
But the player he is facing in the clip are not a pro either, misses a lot of easy points....
Isn't it disrespectful to call him a fat guy?
No, but the newer snowflake-like society is making such regular words 'offensive' even though it is completely true.
@@frederikvater Well i am german and the translation to german would be very rude to say it to someone
I think it is disrespectful. But also I think the owner of this channel does not think it is disrespectful due to language barrier.
I'm Vietnamese having root from China and have been living in Germany for 8y. I can say that it is definitely rude in Germany or Western countries to call someone fat (although it's the truth), but it's a completely normal and funny way to call friends or younger people so in Vietnam. Not sure how about China, but FZD has the nickname 'Little Chubby' as well. So I guess it's not a big deal in China too.
It's just culturl difference between the West and the East. Imho, people from the East are normally more open and easy-going than in the West.
I think everybody different these day. In my opinion.
What do you mean he doesn’t move? He hits 90% forhands and pivots for most of them. I am confused on this one coach Thic. Can I buy you a coffee ?
Summo Hung of Table Tennis
Pourquoi l'appellent'ils le gros ?! C'est quoi ce manque de respect ! Pas besoin d'être fin comme une arbalète pour maîtriser l'art du tennis de table , ...
Une belle démonstration 👏
Dans les cultures est-asiatiques comme la Chine ou le Vietnam (d'où vient le gars qui tient cette chaîne), y a pas de honte associée au mot "gros". C'est juste un adjectif comme un autre pour décrire une personne.
Dans l'équipe nationale chinoise, ils surnomment Fan Zhen Dong "Grand gros" et Liang Jin Kun "Petit gros", et ça n'est pas du tout voulu ni perçu comme une insulte.
Donc aucun manque de respect puisque les marques de respect sont culturelles.
When they topspin it gets really fast :)
Waiting for adam bobrow
The read player is a waldner style
We need to have him match up with Otto from Pongfinity and see who wins the battle of chubby TT players. Probably this guy.
This guy for sure, the amateur level on china its some pros on european countries.
If this guy beat wang hao then he will crush Otto
Otto probably has one of the best backhand in Finland. It would be interesting to see both playing against each other. They are skilled, patient and using their smarts to determine when to going on offense and when to stay put.
For a big guy, Otto actually moves extremely fast. Don't let his size fool you. His Pongfinity videos along with the tournaments plays proven it beyond any doubts.
Is that a valid serve?
FAT GUY??? why do you use such derogatory comments about people? Does anyone every critize you about your look or character?? He's a good athlete, focus on his skills, not his looks that are not to your perfect standards.
Sorry. For me, calling someone "fat" is normal. I think that it could be a motivation for many "big players".
in Asia, it is less offended to call someone fat as compared to western part of the world. In fact, the national team call Fan Zhen Dong "Big" Fat 大胖， and called Liang Jing Kun "little" Fat 小胖。 It is nothing to do with fat shame instead more of respecting them played so well and fast despite their body weight.
If calling some fat is OK, would you consider it OK for others to call an Asian player, "slant eyes"?
It's about Table Tennis, let's focus on the Skilks!
Please be more sensitive in your delivery as you have an international site, not simply an Asian site. (as seen by your English language video commentary)
Sorry, that typo should be "SKILLS".
@@ph469 Well this is not an United States channel, where some terms may sound offensive. It's an international channel and in many parts of the world fat is not pejorative. Even in my country, calling an African-American "negro" is not offensive and they don't get offended by it if you call them like that. As my black friend said, what should I get offended if someone call me negro if I'm a negro!
This amazing player is fat, and coach is not calling him a pig or a fatso. If you even check the dictionary of Cambridge the definition of "fat" is not classified as an offensive term ("fatso" is). "Fat" simply means "someone who weighs more than normal". Sometimes we need to understand that our own culture doesn't necessary applies to the rest of the world and each country has its own culture.
He plays quite well. He, and his compatriot and opponent also cheat the server quite well, perhaps too well. Maybe that's how he won the game.
Even I can smash a pop-up ball on a hidden serve. I can win 99% of those, obviously.
He plays like Eugene Wang
The red Guy is highly skilled. Is he playing with one side pimple rubber?
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Hello.
This player has a really cool hand and everything looks so simple. Wonder which wood and which coverings he uses?
How is he "fat"? He just has a bigger head, but he doesnt have a fat body. I think the other table tennis players are just skinny.
Being big (let's not say fat) it's an advantage in a few sports, in this case adding your weight to a hit makes the difference in the speed of the ball.
Yeah, i think in sumo it can be a big advantage
he is fat though
Худой должен был гонять по сторонам толстого. Но получалось - наоборот...
What an exellent feeling he has. For some moves he remindms the style of Jan Ove W. A pleasure to see. How much do you guys think is his wheight? I would guess something like 80 Kg....? Don't you? Does anybody has the answer?
What if there was a *really* fat person who could beat everybody? Would they get accepted?
It's china's Eugene Wang! 😄
@taumax are you from canada? I don't think many people know who is wang zhen outside of canada
@@thedragon1170 lol yes I am! I am a fan of Eugene!
@@taumax did you ever played against him?
@@thedragon1170 lol no... I'm too low level to have the chance to play against him. U?
@@taumax No. But I would like to reach a level close to this one day :). the only players of a level close to him that I had the chance to play against were Edward Ly and Akbar Bahmani because I was practicing in the same club, but it was not oficial match and I could not make more than 3 or 4 points.
If there was an ugly guy we wouldn’t refer too him as the ugly guy so why label him the fat guy ? And if anything he’s chubby not fat
For American standards, this is normal weight. Not fat at all
He reminds me Zhen Wang, great player too.
Very powerful player yes, and his movement is quite fast too. The young guy he is playing in this video is the one that does not move well...lolo..-he looks like Mr. Heavyfoot aha
This is no fat guy coach!
to call somebody only fat guy is quite discriminated i find
He prob lost some social credit with this
The oponent service is given by toes isnt it ilegal?
He's not fucking fat. Look at his legs. His face might be puffy but his body is meat.
New Waldner !!!
The fat guy is a pro, not amateur, he is in the chinese national team before, at most you can call him former-pro and not amateur.
卓球って太ってるのあんま関係ないよね。太ってるって言っても、脚鍛えられて超綺麗だし。
Day time butcher. Night time table tennis god
why dont you call him just the guy in the red shirt??
no, fat
He is not fat
Kid boy use something equipment really not suitable for play in this hall it sound ,feel too soft so when he play he can not control his shot as much as possible ,i know when i say like this it's sound weird ,but trust me
Love the shameless label of "the fat guy" in this video, if this were made by an American youtuber the channel would have been "cancelled" by now XD.
“the fat guy” are you serious?
プロって方、指の上に球を乗せて反則サーブ！
Its not very nice to say that he is fat
In some countries, fat is considered wealthy.
Meaning, you can afford to eat.
The fat guy is not fat but just thick. You're exaggerate