Yea you have too much grip over the limit of the tyre, but still not sure how that would make the higher steering angle faster than turning in normally?
@@AlexGillonGaming If i remember correctly, he said a few times that it just slows you down a lot. So for example if you go deep, instead of keeping on braking and risking locking up, you just steer a lot and it slows you down and turns at the same time. So for regular cornering, they can probably brake later and still make the corner with the best line by turning aggressively
@@AlexGillonGaming the reason for the increased steering angle and therefore in turn the double flick turn in technique being faster, is basically the first smaller turn in increases the friction between the tyres and the circuit and therefore increases the load in the tyres which in the game increases the level of grip, so then on the second turn in which is a higher steering angle it gives you more grip and turn in so you can then obviously carry a higher minimum speed and gain time. Hopefully I explained that okay.
We learned that official F1 equal cars aren't equal because they didn't use them. They all had World car chassis and body with F1 official liveries. And I'm sure there will be someone who disagrees, so go back and watch on boards from different cars and you'll see the steering wheels are all the same and exactly the same as the World car wheels. I imagine the handling model was also slightly different than what we have as well from the insane steering lock
Yea they do use F1 World cars because the other cars don't have equal wheelbases, making them handle very very slightly differently. Good point about the different handling though - they did have tweaks to their build, I wonder if some of this was from that!!
@africanpenguin3104 Yea, I know, I race pretty competitively and have experienced the different reactions of some of the cars. I agree it's pretty small differences, but it's enough to notice when you're playing at a high level and can affect the outcome of races. Which is why they don't use official cars. For the best in the World, it's even more likely to alter the outcome
3:35 the rubber on the normal racing line becomes very slippery when it wet so the grip is off the normal racing line. the steering lock is partly to slow it down but to also load up the fronts when the kart grips up.
The fact that these guys are finding that much time from moving a bit lower is insane, I need to learn how to make f1 setups though if I want to learn how to do it like f1, I need a setup coach lol
I did, thanks for reminding me, here it is: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSld1lHE9mh20EVwHXwtoVGjvTV05pbyrEJi5BYv76dF4X4accTjvUYJxX6groGsDzHGJhXgN3TkGnO/pubhtml
I'll shoot EA F1 CM a DM about EA not updating the E-Sports page. I've worked with him a lot before EA cancelled me.. he's Great guy that does his best on his end
I'm sore about being cancelled over something silly. But not that sore😂. I've DMed him but he most likely won't pick it up until he's back at work until Monday
I asked EA CM if it can be looked into. But EA are moving to its new forums so it's all just read only and can't login so not even sure if he's even received my DM. In anycase he'll only be able to tell me he'll have a look. But won't be able to tell me if anything can be or will be done. In my experience nothing will get done. Took me ages off complaining to anyone who would listen at EA community team before they added raised issues board.
Championship standings nowhere to be found, they are hopeless. If it was not for Jarno competing and Marcel giving his insight I would not bother. Regardless the game itself is just garbage!
Cheating and Gameplay No forms of cheating, gameplay, gamesmanship or gaining an unfair advantage in any way will be tolerated. This includes, but is not limited to: Exploiting game glitches. Intentionally using any in-game bug to seek an advantage. A bug is defined as any Game function or behaviour that, in the sole determination of the Administration, is not intentional or functioning as the developer intended. From their rules which they are all in breach of.
Those esport kids are so nerdy! I couldn’t imagine them having an actual life or a gf and just put me off watching it. Don’t want to watch kids or nerds.
Jarno Opmeer said the slip angle of the tryes is messed up, thats why this aggressive steering style works on this game.
Yea you have too much grip over the limit of the tyre, but still not sure how that would make the higher steering angle faster than turning in normally?
@@AlexGillonGaming If i remember correctly, he said a few times that it just slows you down a lot. So for example if you go deep, instead of keeping on braking and risking locking up, you just steer a lot and it slows you down and turns at the same time. So for regular cornering, they can probably brake later and still make the corner with the best line by turning aggressively
@@AlexGillonGaming the reason for the increased steering angle and therefore in turn the double flick turn in technique being faster, is basically the first smaller turn in increases the friction between the tyres and the circuit and therefore increases the load in the tyres which in the game increases the level of grip, so then on the second turn in which is a higher steering angle it gives you more grip and turn in so you can then obviously carry a higher minimum speed and gain time. Hopefully I explained that okay.
@@AlexGillonGamingI think it might be as simple as being able to brake later and still make corner due to the aggressive steering
@FormulaIsaac Yeah. Sometimes it is called "preloading". tires perform better when they have some load in them.
We learned that official F1 equal cars aren't equal because they didn't use them. They all had World car chassis and body with F1 official liveries. And I'm sure there will be someone who disagrees, so go back and watch on boards from different cars and you'll see the steering wheels are all the same and exactly the same as the World car wheels. I imagine the handling model was also slightly different than what we have as well from the insane steering lock
Yea they do use F1 World cars because the other cars don't have equal wheelbases, making them handle very very slightly differently. Good point about the different handling though - they did have tweaks to their build, I wonder if some of this was from that!!
It’s so so minuscule and they also said that certain cars take kerbs better than others
@africanpenguin3104 Yea, I know, I race pretty competitively and have experienced the different reactions of some of the cars. I agree it's pretty small differences, but it's enough to notice when you're playing at a high level and can affect the outcome of races. Which is why they don't use official cars. For the best in the World, it's even more likely to alter the outcome
the aggressive steering in karting is used to scrub in the front tyres and gain extra tyre temps
They should give you the JOB.
Thank you for your work Alex, you are doing more than they can imagine atm.
Hire Alex Gillon for F1 Esports commentary!
He used to do commentary for IGP manager!
3:35 the rubber on the normal racing line becomes very slippery when it wet so the grip is off the normal racing line. the steering lock is partly to slow it down but to also load up the fronts when the kart grips up.
The fact that these guys are finding that much time from moving a bit lower is insane, I need to learn how to make f1 setups though if I want to learn how to do it like f1, I need a setup coach lol
I saw a video of sainz karting and he barely turns the wheel he uses the accelerator to steer and he was rapid
I would guess that only works in higher powered karts
I do a lot of karting and what you were saying sums it up when in the wet .
I really enjoyed event 1 but I wish they would have a formation lap before the race so they just don’t cut to 5 lights directly
The main thing we learned was that the F1 game is still as unrealistic and buggy as in 2016
don't get the aggressive steering and double shift
Think you forgot to link the penalty sheet mate
I did, thanks for reminding me, here it is: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSld1lHE9mh20EVwHXwtoVGjvTV05pbyrEJi5BYv76dF4X4accTjvUYJxX6groGsDzHGJhXgN3TkGnO/pubhtml
I'll shoot EA F1 CM a DM about EA not updating the E-Sports page. I've worked with him a lot before EA cancelled me.. he's Great guy that does his best on his end
I thought this was a very different comment when I read the first 5 words 😂
I'm sore about being cancelled over something silly. But not that sore😂. I've DMed him but he most likely won't pick it up until he's back at work until Monday
I've done what I can for the website, but I cannot talk about it. 'Technical difficulties' doesn't begin to explain the situation.
@@AlexGillonGaming Ironically, not a million miles away from the truth. But I can't talk about it.
I asked EA CM if it can be looked into. But EA are moving to its new forums so it's all just read only and can't login so not even sure if he's even received my DM. In anycase he'll only be able to tell me he'll have a look. But won't be able to tell me if anything can be or will be done. In my experience nothing will get done. Took me ages off complaining to anyone who would listen at EA community team before they added raised issues board.
People are paid to make this game. How is this real? No one should give up their hard earned cash for this.
They are taking moto gp lines lol
Championship standings nowhere to be found, they are hopeless. If it was not for Jarno competing and Marcel giving his insight I would not bother. Regardless the game itself is just garbage!
Cheating and Gameplay
No forms of cheating, gameplay, gamesmanship or gaining an unfair advantage in any way will be tolerated. This includes, but is not limited to:
Exploiting game glitches.
Intentionally using any in-game bug to seek an advantage. A bug is defined as any Game function or behaviour that, in the sole determination of the Administration, is not intentional or functioning as the developer intended.
From their rules which they are all in breach of.
Those esport kids are so nerdy! I couldn’t imagine them having an actual life or a gf and just put me off watching it. Don’t want to watch kids or nerds.
Jarno Opmeer, 2 time F1 eSports champion, has a gf
Jarno Opmeer has a girlfriend bro 😭😭😭