Jonny, you talk about fishing exactly how my brain works. Between your videos and Tactical Bassin, I get everything I need. your videos are more practical and help with actually understanding fishing. TB gets super detailed, which is great but requires some thought about what actually applies to you. I love your videos even more because you've figured ways to quantify your knowledge into cheat sheet style summaries. It helps make sense of things for us weekend warriors that can't spend 30 hrs a week on the water.
Here in the north east clear water can be 20-30ft of visible and some of our lakes don’t have depleted oxygen levels in 100+ ft of water. Large Mouth generally stay at the depth of or shallower than the deepest weed growth. Small Mouth are more dependent on forage. Lakes with a good Smelt population commonly have Small Mouth living in 50-100 ft of water. The presents of Lake Trout is generally a good indicator that Small Mouth may be present in extreme depths.
Probably one of if not the most important rule of thumb in Bass fishing and most people dont even know about it(I know I didn't)...You can streamline your game without wasting time...THANX JOHNNY!!! YOU ARE AWESOME MAN!!!
I am continuously amazed at the clarity and quality of your images to explain the use of electronics coupled with so many techniques. I hope you’re enjoying making your videos as much as I enjoy the watching and learning. Keep up the good work and thanks.
I just found your Channel following a comment from one of your subscribers on a Tactical Bassin video...Sure glad I did Your video on Ledges helped me land almost a dozen of them today...Thank You!!
Jonny, you have a great career going and I wise you the best. Just for thoughts, I have been bass fishing for 50 years and have found that if you keep your lure in the water you will catch more bass. It is my hobby and I still enjoy and have started teaching the grandson. You know, you will get to help him too. Thanks, Lamar
The combination of your fishing knowledge and the graphic video skills you have make you an impressive communicator. I look forward to each and every new video. The only problem is that this information took me a lifetime to accumulate. The new generation have it somewhat easier. Jonny I caught my first largemouth at ten years old in 1958. I've been hunting these fish ever since. Keep up the great work young man.
Showing love from your old state WI!! But your break downs are just on point. Very detailed and I can tell by the things that u point out you've been getting tons of questions. Thanks for answering them n putting out fresh good content.
@@kidiraq8381 yes sir!!! Thanks for your service brother. Heard Johnny talking about u on the live stream the other day. Thumbs up!! Must of been cool to see Johnny do his thing.
My home lake (Summersville Lake, WV) has depths up to 320 ft..and clarity of 12+ feet in the summer. Tough fishing with poor fish management by the Army Corp of Engineers & WV DNR. They seem uninterested in managing the bass population here in WV. I'm anxious to go out and see just where the Thermocline is now, after watching this video. Keep up the great work!
Great info. So I grew up swimming and diving In Central FL gin clear lakes. I've experienced thermocline levels change drastically depending on depth. And it can vary. Thermocline is also much colder water.
Excellent video. Very informative. In the intro I think you mentioned that you would comment on how water temperature influences fishing depth. I don't recall that being covered in the video.
@@FishtheMoment It would be great if you could do a bank fishing episode using a castable Deeper Sonar. I don't think anyone has done a video to do this sonar justice yet. You're the man!
Can't believe I've just now found this channel. You definitely put out some very good information. I live on Table Rock and therefore I am very reliant on my electronics to help me narrow down my target areas. Always looking to learn more about using them to improve my catch. Thanks for sharing. Do you offer on-water tutorials? 😄
Hey Tyler. It would probably take me 4-5 hours the explain that, but here are a few videos that may help: ruclips.net/video/bLMdRM2jLPg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/FZYLfOUoSNg/видео.html
Usually when you have sunny days the fish tend to hang around cover to ambush. When you get cloudy windy days they tend to be more active and move around more
Thanks for the video! I do have a clarification question though. The general guidelines are based upon what the lake currently is, not what it normally is? i.e. Table rock is normally 4+ ft., but after a bunch of rain, visibility is down to 1-2 ft. You would graph 15 ft. or less while it's stained and not out to the thermocline.
That's correct. If the water on Table Rock clears up to 1-2 ft, fish in less than 15ft of water. I actually caught fish today (two over 3 pounds) on Table Rock way up a creek in 12ft of water on a ledge. The water visibility was 2-3ft and just focused on 25ft or less because of that
@@FishtheMoment, thank you for the clarification. These offshore videos have really got me doing more graphing when I take my kayak out on the lake and making me a better angler because of it.
Great video, what about when the north or south end of the lake is muddier then the other end. Would you have to adjust the depth guide lines for the different clarity? Or do the fish stay in the same depth throughout the lake despite the clarity?
Just got off the lake with new gear and it showed a line 18 in on down view on the main lake is this it? lake is 10- 13 ft max. When I went to the creeks feeding it I didn't see the line?
Thanks for the video Jonny. Question.. Once you have the clarity/thermocline question answered to determine max depth, how much do you restrict your targets for the presence of cover? Do you frequently/ever fish deep structure - beyond the grass - if your depth/thermocline rules say that they could be out that deep? I've long had it in my head that successful location starts with structure but that you also **have** to have cover. Wondering if the cover part is a false assumption.
I have a lowrance hook 7 and I am using high chirp but I get a ton of interference past 21 feet is that normal or do I need to change some settings, florida is mostly shallower than 12 foot but we have a few holes
Possibly as a last resort if there isn't a good current break in their area. Most of the time, though, bass in Pickwick will position on the back side of river bars and points on offshore ledges in the summer to get out of the current instead of going deeper.
Yes. High winds and rain will stir up the water and change the position of the thermocline if they happen for a long period of time (like 2 weeks of straight rain or 20mph winds)
Tennessee Kayak Fishing Checo our his video on “3 Lures for Muddy Water”. It answered that same question for me. I actually went out and bought the crankbait he recommended in the video and hooked my 1st offshore bass in 20ft of water yesterday.
Yes. I just stick my bait in the water and then measure how deep I can see based on how far my pole was in the water when the bait disappeared from view
Great info about this subject! Do any other types of fish live below the thermocline? I have seen some on my graph and I assumed they were probably catfish or something other than bass.
I am not positive, but I think cold-water fish like lake trout will live below the thermocline. I also think smallmouth bass occasionally go below the thermocline.
Why do majority of bass stay in the same depth range on a given day? If u catch a couple in 12 ft then u can replicate that depth in others areas around the lake
Jordan Spalding I’ve wondered the same thing. I don’t know the answer but my guess is there is something about that depth that they like. Maybe oxygen and temp is good at that level? Like when you swim in a lake and all the sudden hit that spot that is like 10 degrees warmer. 😂
I'm sure about the scientific reason behind it, but I know it's the case based on years of experience. That being said, not all fish will be in the same depth. For example on Table Rock Lake right now, the spotted bass are in 20-30ft, the smallmouth are in 15-20ft and the largemouth are in 10-15ft.
or you can just ignore it all and use your fish finder to find fish? lol why look for a thermocline when you can use the same technology to look for fish? :)
Because you could immediately eliminate a ton of water based on thermocline. Especially if you have mapping like lakemaster you could adjust your color shading to the thermocline and not scan anything below the thermocline.
Jonny, you talk about fishing exactly how my brain works. Between your videos and Tactical Bassin, I get everything I need. your videos are more practical and help with actually understanding fishing. TB gets super detailed, which is great but requires some thought about what actually applies to you. I love your videos even more because you've figured ways to quantify your knowledge into cheat sheet style summaries. It helps make sense of things for us weekend warriors that can't spend 30 hrs a week on the water.
Here in the north east clear water can be 20-30ft of visible and some of our lakes don’t have depleted oxygen levels in 100+ ft of water. Large Mouth generally stay at the depth of or shallower than the deepest weed growth. Small Mouth are more dependent on forage. Lakes with a good Smelt population commonly have Small Mouth living in 50-100 ft of water. The presents of Lake Trout is generally a good indicator that Small Mouth may be present in extreme depths.
Probably one of if not the most important rule of thumb in Bass fishing and most people dont even know about it(I know I didn't)...You can streamline your game without wasting time...THANX JOHNNY!!! YOU ARE AWESOME MAN!!!
I have rewatched almost every video of @fish the moment multiple times. So much information you can learn more every time you watch. Great stuff 👏
So we’ll explained, I keep coming back to this video to refresh myself with the basic visibility-to-depth zone info. Great job Jonny!
I wish I had a friend that knew as much as you I have so many questions lol 🤦♂️
I am continuously amazed at the clarity and quality of your images to explain the use of electronics coupled with so many techniques. I hope you’re enjoying making your videos as much as I enjoy the watching and learning. Keep up the good work and thanks.
I just found your Channel following a comment from one of your subscribers on a Tactical Bassin video...Sure glad I did Your video on Ledges helped me land almost a dozen of them today...Thank You!!
Jonny, you have a great career going and I wise you the best. Just for thoughts, I have been bass fishing for 50 years and have found that if you keep your lure in the water you will catch more bass. It is my hobby and I still enjoy and have started teaching the grandson. You know, you will get to help him too. Thanks, Lamar
Thanks for the guidelines Jonny. This really helps in picking out what size deep cranks to tie on for different lakes in my area in the summer.
The combination of your fishing knowledge and the graphic video skills you have make you an impressive communicator. I look forward to each and every new video. The only problem is that this information took me a lifetime to accumulate. The new generation have it somewhat easier. Jonny I caught my first largemouth at ten years old in 1958. I've been hunting these fish ever since. Keep up the great work young man.
I absolutely love your channel!!! The amount of information and the way you explain. Dude I’m lucky I found you! I’m grateful for you. Thank you!!!
This is the second or third time watching this video. Thanks for the refresher
Showing love from your old state WI!! But your break downs are just on point. Very detailed and I can tell by the things that u point out you've been getting tons of questions. Thanks for answering them n putting out fresh good content.
Your Friend Xaik GO Pack GO!!!
@@kidiraq8381 yes sir!!! Thanks for your service brother. Heard Johnny talking about u on the live stream the other day. Thumbs up!! Must of been cool to see Johnny do his thing.
Thanks! Go Pack!
Thank you so much Professor for the education👍🏽
Great video, you are a wealth of knowledge. Good information. Thanks Professor.
Great content and thoroughly explained as usual. I learn so much from your videos and podcasts. Thanks Jonny.
Thanks, Robert!
My home lake (Summersville Lake, WV) has depths up to 320 ft..and clarity of 12+ feet in the summer. Tough fishing with poor fish management by the Army Corp of Engineers & WV DNR. They seem uninterested in managing the bass population here in WV. I'm anxious to go out and see just where the Thermocline is now, after watching this video. Keep up the great work!
You are doing good you're really putting them out there.. really great content👍🏽
Great info. So I grew up swimming and diving In Central FL gin clear lakes. I've experienced thermocline levels change drastically depending on depth. And it can vary. Thermocline is also much colder water.
You have some amazing knowledge. Thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed!
I should have watched this video before I went out this morning....I was asking myself this question all day long. :P
Hahaha hopefully it helps on the next trip!
Depth of the thermocline can vary month to month, week to week, or in some cases day to day. In the same body of water or pond.
Awesome tips thank you
CHEERS" from Idaho! Thanks for posting"
Glad you enjoyed!
Extremely informative. Thanks man
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video. Very informative. In the intro I think you mentioned that you would comment on how water temperature influences fishing depth. I don't recall that being covered in the video.
Flat out the best bass fishing knowledge on RUclips. Five gold stars.
Great video! Learn a lot actually. I'm down here in ga at west point lake. This will help a lot and thanks for what you do.
Another very informative video. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed, Neil!
@@FishtheMoment It would be great if you could do a bank fishing episode using a castable Deeper Sonar. I don't think anyone has done a video to do this sonar justice yet. You're the man!
Another Great Video=== Way to go Jonny
Nice breakdown, thank you
Always great content my man! I’m a much better fisherman because of you. Thx!
Thanks! Glad the videos are helpful!
Would love to see you do a lake breakdown for Lake Eufaula, AL for the ledge bite.
Love your videos very helpful except that I have only had one great off shore trip chasing hybrid striped bass
Thanks!
Great information Johnny
GOLD!
Can't believe I've just now found this channel. You definitely put out some very good information. I live on Table Rock and therefore I am very reliant on my electronics to help me narrow down my target areas. Always looking to learn more about using them to improve my catch. Thanks for sharing. Do you offer on-water tutorials? 😄
Great Post!
Thanks!
Great info!
Thanks again!
Great info!!! Thanks
Thanks, Michael!
Great video bro 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🎣
Thanks!
Informative vid man, thanks for the great explanation.
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How would you know where and what to fish based on the weather conditions you have
Hey Tyler. It would probably take me 4-5 hours the explain that, but here are a few videos that may help:
ruclips.net/video/bLMdRM2jLPg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/FZYLfOUoSNg/видео.html
Usually when you have sunny days the fish tend to hang around cover to ambush. When you get cloudy windy days they tend to be more active and move around more
Another great video!! When is your book coming out?
Thanks! I think it got delayed for 20-30 years. I'll ask my publisher hahah
Very interesting, but as you said it is relative to your lake and you'll have to find out where all this is on the lake or river you fish that day.
For sure!
Thanks for the video! I do have a clarification question though. The general guidelines are based upon what the lake currently is, not what it normally is? i.e. Table rock is normally 4+ ft., but after a bunch of rain, visibility is down to 1-2 ft. You would graph 15 ft. or less while it's stained and not out to the thermocline.
That's correct. If the water on Table Rock clears up to 1-2 ft, fish in less than 15ft of water. I actually caught fish today (two over 3 pounds) on Table Rock way up a creek in 12ft of water on a ledge. The water visibility was 2-3ft and just focused on 25ft or less because of that
@@FishtheMoment, thank you for the clarification. These offshore videos have really got me doing more graphing when I take my kayak out on the lake and making me a better angler because of it.
Do some vids on tidal/river fishing. :)
Great video, what about when the north or south end of the lake is muddier then the other end. Would you have to adjust the depth guide lines for the different clarity? Or do the fish stay in the same depth throughout the lake despite the clarity?
Fresh!!!
Thanks!
Just got off the lake with new gear and it showed a line 18 in on down view on the main lake is this it? lake is 10- 13 ft max. When I went to the creeks feeding it I didn't see the line?
Do rivers also have a thermocline?
Using your recommended depths, do you shade your graff accordingly?
Thanks for the video Jonny. Question.. Once you have the clarity/thermocline question answered to determine max depth, how much do you restrict your targets for the presence of cover? Do you frequently/ever fish deep structure - beyond the grass - if your depth/thermocline rules say that they could be out that deep? I've long had it in my head that successful location starts with structure but that you also **have** to have cover. Wondering if the cover part is a false assumption.
I think Johnny is saying, in the summer anything below the thermocline will not have any bass, even on structure.
Any tips on water 15ft+ visibility
I have a lowrance hook 7 and I am using high chirp but I get a ton of interference past 21 feet is that normal or do I need to change some settings, florida is mostly shallower than 12 foot but we have a few holes
What about lakes like pickwick with days of hi current. Would you fish it any deeper than your general rule of thumb ?
Possibly as a last resort if there isn't a good current break in their area. Most of the time, though, bass in Pickwick will position on the back side of river bars and points on offshore ledges in the summer to get out of the current instead of going deeper.
What if there are springs
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Can the thermocline change due to bad weather, high winds, heavy rain etc..
Yes. High winds and rain will stir up the water and change the position of the thermocline if they happen for a long period of time (like 2 weeks of straight rain or 20mph winds)
Do you judge water clarity by the depth you can see your lure?
Tennessee Kayak Fishing Checo our his video on “3 Lures for Muddy Water”. It answered that same question for me. I actually went out and bought the crankbait he recommended in the video and hooked my 1st offshore bass in 20ft of water yesterday.
kidiraq Thanks. I’ll check it out. I know that officially clarity is defined with a black and white disk. So I wanted to know his standard.
Yes. I just stick my bait in the water and then measure how deep I can see based on how far my pole was in the water when the bait disappeared from view
Great info about this subject! Do any other types of fish live below the thermocline? I have seen some on my graph and I assumed they were probably catfish or something other than bass.
I'm not actually sure. I focus primarily on bass and try to avoid other species most of the time haha!
I am not positive, but I think cold-water fish like lake trout will live below the thermocline. I also think smallmouth bass occasionally go below the thermocline.
4 trips fishing offshore and still not a single bite. One day I'll land one. I'm tired of beating the bank while I'm in a boat
Do you have a pricing list for the fishing instruction for a day and the electronics?
Here's a link to the lessons on my website. You will find the pricing there:
fishthemoment.com/fishing-lessons
Why do majority of bass stay in the same depth range on a given day? If u catch a couple in 12 ft then u can replicate that depth in others areas around the lake
Jordan Spalding I’ve wondered the same thing. I don’t know the answer but my guess is there is something about that depth that they like. Maybe oxygen and temp is good at that level? Like when you swim in a lake and all the sudden hit that spot that is like 10 degrees warmer. 😂
The barometric pressure may move them around until they find a depth that’s comfortable. Maybe he’ll answer.
I'm sure about the scientific reason behind it, but I know it's the case based on years of experience. That being said, not all fish will be in the same depth. For example on Table Rock Lake right now, the spotted bass are in 20-30ft, the smallmouth are in 15-20ft and the largemouth are in 10-15ft.
Does this apply to all species of fish? Like Great Lakes Salmon and Trout?
Yes all fish need oxygen.
The thermocline keeps The Meg out of the ocean...
or you can just ignore it all and use your fish finder to find fish? lol why look for a thermocline when you can use the same technology to look for fish? :)
Because you could immediately eliminate a ton of water based on thermocline. Especially if you have mapping like lakemaster you could adjust your color shading to the thermocline and not scan anything below the thermocline.
@Bennybass sorry... Not so good with the cyber lingo.. Smh?