Cheaters are the ones that always say, "It's just a game, man.' As for HRMs, I love using Sauce 4 Zwift because you can set up the leaderboard to show HRs of those around you. It becomes quite clear who you don't need to chase.
@@zwiftingwithdemonhunter Exactly! And im guessing Sauce 4 Zwift also has other metrics to help with tactics but the HR one is the most effective, no HR no worrying 😆
The exit of the underground stairs are a crazy part indeed, luckily this loop has more interesting hills where to drop riders, not like in Tempus Fugit.
Totally agree with you. If they have not heart rate and they ride on the group is okay but don’t attack same problem with people racing with dumb trainers.
@CarlosRodriguez963 some use electric bikes....There is a local guy in my area blowing up KOMs by large amounts using his electric bike. 2nd place-10 place ( 14-16 mph up climb)...him?? 30mph lol
🤣🤣good one.....Raced against a cheater the day before yesterday he had an average RPM of 32 no BPM, and his W/KG stayed mostly the same, clearly an E-BIKE, zwift should be able to pick such people out...
I understand everyones sentiment, however I do not use a heart rate monitor and I am 50 years old. I don't cheat and bust my butt when I ride. I just got Zwift with the bike etc. approximately 5 weeks ago and love it. I think that is why Zwift makes the heart rate monitors mandatory for some races. I hope the majority of people with no HRM are not cheating.
@@kevanthompson9853 ofc there will always be exceptions, people who dont use HRM and also dont cheat, but unfortunately there is also people with bad intentions. Stay strong, ride on 💪
Completely agree with people without HR , who are cheating. I understand some people maybe dont use HR at all, but yea , with these kind, they just cheat and fake weight..😊
@@Bourne90 As long as they dont break the pack, its ok. The problem is when they make you burn out and use your energy chasing them, while you could do a totally other tactic if they weren’t there
Thank for this instructions for the race..helps a lot... wish youll better soon 🎉
@@StuntPepe Thank you 🤝 Good luck with your race 🙌
Cheaters are the ones that always say, "It's just a game, man.' As for HRMs, I love using Sauce 4 Zwift because you can set up the leaderboard to show HRs of those around you. It becomes quite clear who you don't need to chase.
@@zwiftingwithdemonhunter Exactly! And im guessing Sauce 4 Zwift also has other metrics to help with tactics but the HR one is the most effective, no HR no worrying 😆
The exit of the underground stairs are a crazy part indeed, luckily this loop has more interesting hills where to drop riders, not like in Tempus Fugit.
True, now you can actually make some other strategy than sucking wheels til the last 500m, Hehe. I like this loop, I wish I could have raced it
Totally agree with you. If they have not heart rate and they ride on the group is okay but don’t attack same problem with people racing with dumb trainers.
@@CarlosRodriguez963 Exactly, that’s the next topic, the dumb trainers doing 600W 😅
@CarlosRodriguez963 some use electric bikes....There is a local guy in my area blowing up KOMs by large amounts using his electric bike. 2nd place-10 place ( 14-16 mph up climb)...him?? 30mph lol
@@JeffOTRCycling Thats so wrong, and sad. What satisfaction will this give to someone idk 🤷♂️
I know Jeff it’s crazy ever here too in Canada 🇨🇦 I see people on summer riding e-bikes and going for the KOMs
Note: I did quit the race and deleted the workout to keep my ZRS unaltered. Hopefully i will be back on the bike for stage 4 💪
Zwift should disallow riders with no HRM to get ahead of mid-pack. Just put their brakes on - automatically….
@@robbyd3892 Damn, that was some good idea there! 👌 That way they are allowed to participate, but not to be the main character
🤣🤣good one.....Raced against a cheater the day before yesterday he had an average RPM of 32 no BPM, and his W/KG stayed mostly the same, clearly an E-BIKE, zwift should be able to pick such people out...
@frannyyarina wow, people have no shame, e-bikes didnt even cross my mind until you mentioned it 😅
I understand everyones sentiment, however I do not use a heart rate monitor and I am 50 years old. I don't cheat and bust my butt when I ride. I just got Zwift with the bike etc. approximately 5 weeks ago and love it. I think that is why Zwift makes the heart rate monitors mandatory for some races. I hope the majority of people with no HRM are not cheating.
@@kevanthompson9853 ofc there will always be exceptions, people who dont use HRM and also dont cheat, but unfortunately there is also people with bad intentions. Stay strong, ride on 💪
Just buy a HRM.
@@sevenrats i did last week
Completely agree with people without HR , who are cheating.
I understand some people maybe dont use HR at all, but yea , with these kind, they just cheat and fake weight..😊
@@Bourne90 As long as they dont break the pack, its ok. The problem is when they make you burn out and use your energy chasing them, while you could do a totally other tactic if they weren’t there
@ any plans for weekend races?
@ Im really waiting to participate on the Tiny races, but I’m still sick so maybe for next Saturday I’ll be ready 😁🙏
Zwift can enforce the use of hrm and smarttrainer but they are not doing for these races. Would be good if they would always do that.
They say Flat but I think they lied...haha
@@JeffOTRCycling Yeap! 😆