Oil Level is RISING in Western Star Crane Truck. Troubleshoot fuel in the oil. (INTERESTING)

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2025

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  • @AdeptApe
    @AdeptApe  2 года назад +15

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    • @kreasilubis5098
      @kreasilubis5098 2 года назад

      Nice info bro..

    • @coarsegrind
      @coarsegrind 2 года назад

      How do I send destruction photos to you. I have pictures of an isx head that might be interesting.

    • @richardmcdonel9669
      @richardmcdonel9669 2 года назад

      I have a question about the video you made about a year ago,,how to get instant fuel and oil pressure,,what was the name brand and size of that vacum pump you were using I can't find one anywhere

  • @robertstetson4077
    @robertstetson4077 2 года назад +10

    I have been a fan of your video for about 2 years now and I am at the airport going to navy boot camp right now. Keep up the good work and keep posting videos I might not be able to see them for a about 8 weeks but there is a lot of people that love them.

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад +7

      Thanks for watching and I wish you the best in the next chapter you are endeavoring on.

  • @flyhigh8113
    @flyhigh8113 2 года назад +6

    I work at Peterbilt as a parts counterman for a big ol' 12 bay building and I honestly love learning further about what you guys deal with. Sometimes techs don't think much of us because we normally start super green(maybe just my shop) but I love learning what you guys go thru. Crazy going from us countermen looking at diagrams to seeing the true disassembly of the engine/chassis side stuff

  • @peteengard9966
    @peteengard9966 2 года назад +15

    Most common fuel dilution. We had a crusher with a C15 that had a fuel/ oil cooler that leaked oil into the fuel. As a truck mechanic it was a head scratcher to diagnose that one. It was like a little radiator in front of the radiator that oil and fuel return ran through. Strange setup.

  • @larrytalley117
    @larrytalley117 2 года назад +5

    Mmmm. Homemade breakfast burrito and an Ape video. What a way to start the day!!

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад

      Good Morning Larry! What is in the burrito?

    • @larrytalley117
      @larrytalley117 2 года назад +1

      @@AdeptApe scrambled eggs, potatoes, sausage and red/green peppers sprinkled with Cholula sauce. Now keeping in mind I’m basically lazy, I use a product called “Crack an egg” which has all the ingredients, just stir in an egg, then it cooks in the microwave. All that rolled up in a flour tortilla. To be truthful I’m not sure if mine is any better than the frozen ones. 😇

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад +1

      It sounds better than a frozen one for sure.

    • @larrytalley117
      @larrytalley117 2 года назад

      @@AdeptApe 👅

  • @brianschneir2158
    @brianschneir2158 2 года назад +2

    I noticed you are very thorough and it's rare today to find that in a technician. Kudos to you sir and I have officially subscribed. Thank you for the videos.

  • @MH-uc7zt
    @MH-uc7zt 2 года назад +6

    Just the fact that you love Ren & Stimpy makes you a good guy. 🤣

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад +3

      The "I know now what I must do" took me awhile to find because I remember Ren saying it for some reason. I was wrong it turns out and it was Stimpy.

    • @brownwrench
      @brownwrench 2 года назад

      @@AdeptApe you eeeediot!! 😁🤣

  • @alanbare8319
    @alanbare8319 2 года назад +3

    Your destruction segment was great-piston pieces and an inspection port in the block!

  • @FarmerSteveO
    @FarmerSteveO 2 года назад +5

    Great video professor Ape! We had a severe injector O-ring failure on a CAT 3196 that super diluted the oil as well. Right after replacing the injector, the turbo failed. My guess was the poor oil viscosity took out the axial bearings in the turbo running under high load with the diluted oil.

  • @hommie789
    @hommie789 Год назад

    I have been working as a heavy duty mechanic for 37 years and have replace lots of injectors but I have replaced more transfer pumps that leaked into the gear train and into the pan than injectors. I can't believe you have never seen it as it is really common but my area is not on highway it is all off highway, dozers, graders, excavators etc but same engines.

  • @johngoldsmith6629
    @johngoldsmith6629 2 года назад +2

    You forgot that BXS engines used a non Cat compression brake. As for the fuel in the oil, we have a five gallon bucket of test fuel with dye added. We remove the lines at the head and hook up to a old fuel transfer pump that we cut the end off. Remove the valve covers and remove any fluid on top of the head and make it as dry as possible. Use a air drill and pump the dyed fuel into the fuel rail back into the bucket. Naturally engine is not running, but the pump is and look for signs of leakage. If needed we can pull the valve train off also. Over time you will get leakage out from the plungers. I also use a variable fitting to ad restriction and use a psi gauge to put psi on the system if needed. Once source of leak is found, drain out any of the dyed fuel back into the bucket for the next one.

  • @RJ9mech
    @RJ9mech 2 года назад

    Your videos are great, and bloopers would only make them better! Well done, sir.

  • @BilgeDweller
    @BilgeDweller 2 года назад +5

    When we did top deck inspections on EMD's, we could use a black light and no dye; a fuel leak would show up grey under the light. My guess is that this was a reaction in the aniline dye used in non road tax fuel (we were dealing with marine EMD's). The places to look were the injector, the injector end of the fuel jumper and the manifold end of the jumper. Prior to the black light method, all you really had was looking for lube oil pathways and surface tension puddles that were not there due to thinning.

  • @vineryoulks7774
    @vineryoulks7774 2 года назад +8

    I can confirm that right angle impact really likes bigger batteries

  • @timnichols9015
    @timnichols9015 2 года назад

    The timing of this video is perfect. Got a 3176 with fuel dilution. Limping to end of harvest (Iowa farm truck here) and will investigate.

  • @Bacongrease00
    @Bacongrease00 2 года назад +5

    Happens in the ford power strokes with HEUI. Usually it’s the O rings but sometimes the injector cups get messed up.

  • @johnnylightning1491
    @johnnylightning1491 2 года назад

    Glad you found your customer's problem. I wish you would stop making fun of Cummins engines. They're the only folks that are making engines for RVs these days so I have to own one if I want a newer RV. Really just funnin' ya it's kind of the Ford Chevy thing. They both work and they both have their issues. Keep the good stuff coming.

  • @k9xmysterious385
    @k9xmysterious385 2 года назад +2

    Before watching the video, i made the assumption that it was smt to do with one of the injectors. To my surprise adept talked about that being a common issue 😂. As an equipment guy in manufacturing and not service, it was cool to see this in a real world application. School taught me about it, but i have yet to encounter it in the field or shop.

  • @thomasperina2990
    @thomasperina2990 2 года назад +2

    Excellent diag Josh, well done. 👏, TMP from N.J.

  • @mileskaiser90
    @mileskaiser90 2 года назад +2

    I had a 3.8 make oil. When it did so it filled the crankcase enough that the evap system sucked fuel and oil into the turbo causing the engine to run away. Found the cause to be that the injector drain line bolts were not tight.

  • @mitchstephen5491
    @mitchstephen5491 2 года назад +3

    I had a EL 240B cat excavator that had this same problem. I had a 3116 cat engine and I had to have the head replaced to fix it. I also have a L90B Volvo loader and it had a injector cup that cracked and leaked compression into the cooling system.

    • @eddiea3343
      @eddiea3343 2 года назад

      Was the head replaced because of a crack or issues with the fuel rail?

  • @joeyf504327
    @joeyf504327 2 года назад

    smart truck owner. He knows that the truck is his income and if he cheaps out on the truck the truck will be cheap with the income.

  • @clayton9136
    @clayton9136 2 года назад

    I modified a lady foot for the c7 injectors. Works great, just tappy tap tap with a deadblow and shes out.

  • @kreasilubis5098
    @kreasilubis5098 2 года назад +6

    I always found fuel dilution in Cat C series engine, 15, 18, 27
    Most common problem comes from Injector Oring, another from Seal shaft fuel tansfer pump. i dont know why there is no improvement from Cat about that.

  • @williamgleaves1954
    @williamgleaves1954 2 года назад

    Luv the Ren and Stimpy clip.

  • @billcovert3473
    @billcovert3473 2 года назад +1

    About a year ago I had sent you some plans for a home made fuel system tester, you found it interesting. One of the functions it can do is pressurize the fuel system to 65 lbs [Detroit Diesel fuel pressure] by capping off the fuel return line thus allowing observation of source of leak without the engine running. Since then I did a little "service truck tour" on You Tube with one segment going over how to build and operate tester. If any of your subscribers has an interest please look at the video.
    I enjoy your videos very much!

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад

      I remember that email I believe, was that the setup you had that was designed 40 years ago or something like that?

    • @billcovert3473
      @billcovert3473 2 года назад +2

      @@AdeptApe Yes by one of those "Greatest Generation" guys. If you get a minute check out the video, at the minimum you will get a visual of one of your fans.

    • @ronunderwood5771
      @ronunderwood5771 2 года назад +1

      Can you provide a link?

  • @typrus6377
    @typrus6377 2 года назад +1

    I've twice seen the transfer pump shaft seal on a C9.3 leak into the oil system.
    The vaaaaast majority of issues I've seen have been Injector related though.

  • @bretyoung1869
    @bretyoung1869 2 года назад +3

    Great diagnosis Josh !!
    You do great work 👍🏽 Thanks

  • @huntguy3831
    @huntguy3831 2 года назад +1

    A heads up for the Milwaukee batteries. Get the 6 amp battery. It is the same size as the 4 amp. I already made that mistake so don’t be like me lol.

  • @bostedtap8399
    @bostedtap8399 2 года назад

    Great diagnosis protocol 👍.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @kc360awareness
    @kc360awareness 2 года назад +1

    Funny. I have a Cummins destruction video I’d like to send in too ….. when I heard you announce that “Kevin with two e’s” had submitted one already to sorta made think?!! Did I send that in already and forget about it? Oh wait…. “I’m Kevin with one e’s”

  • @chrisolson8670
    @chrisolson8670 2 года назад +1

    We just had fuel dilution in our oil on our Volvo with a 3406E. After three trips to CAT, it ended to being the fuel transfer pump. The senior tech said he had only seen that once in his 20+ years.

  • @Jim0i0
    @Jim0i0 2 года назад

    Perfect timing. I just discovered that my truck is making oil too.

  • @whitefox9
    @whitefox9 2 года назад +1

    That dye and light we is used on checking air conditioners leaking

  • @timlarcombe6831
    @timlarcombe6831 2 года назад

    The early D9L's fitted with 3412's had an issue with the internal injector lines splitting. The dealer I worked for in the 80's delivered 3 new tractors and I got sent to site to sort it out, 3 new D9L's all inoperative with the highest hours on the machines was 27 hours, needless to say the customer was less than impressed. But got them going again

  • @oscarlesburg7672
    @oscarlesburg7672 2 года назад

    Yes, THANK YOU, JOSH.

  • @mdouglaswray
    @mdouglaswray 2 года назад

    LOVE THE CLIP OF STIMPSON J. CAT

  • @Bigmike3406E
    @Bigmike3406E 2 года назад

    I use the Milwaukee 1/2” drive right angle impact for that little task there.

  • @diesellivesmatter
    @diesellivesmatter 2 года назад

    When I checked my oil this morning in my n14 it was way high and I instantly thought of this.

  • @TheCRTman
    @TheCRTman 2 года назад

    Now I know where to potentially look if I start to see fuel in oil. It makes sense. Great ending too lol.

  • @Mikelacole
    @Mikelacole Год назад

    This last Thanksgiving I had a late night/early morning (arrived on site 2am) roadcall request for truck stalled on the highway on ramp and would not start again. The driver thought it was batteries (lol). Truck start gives a "shunk" but doesn't turn motor over. Tested batteries, and voltage drop Tested starter and that all checks out. Pull the dip stick amd the oil level is several inches above the full line. Had to give the driver the good news 3am Thanksgiving day that his motor is likely hydro-locked and engine has been making oil.

  • @samwagner31
    @samwagner31 2 года назад

    we had a mechanical fuel pump go out on our cat 1300G the other day, over filled the oil, but also had one hell of a vibration and low power.

  • @adamgarrison4400
    @adamgarrison4400 2 года назад +1

    I had a friend who had the same problem three months after new injectors where installed. I told him his truck smelled like it was running rich and that was the problem.

  • @terryperrott8567
    @terryperrott8567 2 года назад

    You're very thorough, good job

  • @bigred1247
    @bigred1247 2 года назад

    My 3406e had two split valves on #4 no one no truck dealer not even cat found problem after changing injectors cups ect I found it after pulling my head.i was making oil I got her back to Canada by changing oil every morning.yeah that was costly.nice diagnosis josh

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy 2 года назад +1

      Very expensive I'm sure. But talk about a great quasi engine flush. Id imagine you are squeaky clean in there now.

    • @bigred1247
      @bigred1247 Год назад

      ​@@giggiddyyes and cat told my bearings would survive they in perfect condition oil pressure was still up at 80lbs

    • @bigred1247
      @bigred1247 Год назад

      Also I should tell you I changed oil and filters each morning until I got her home..yes the best engine ever

  • @midevolgamingvortex8844
    @midevolgamingvortex8844 2 года назад +1

    That engine actually had 3 holes in the block that was just 1 of them. Just got done putting a new reman engine in that truck.

  • @scottlarue5304
    @scottlarue5304 2 года назад

    The 4 and 6 amp hour batteries pack a lot more punch with longer battery life but they are bigger and get in the way more.

  • @davidskinner6765
    @davidskinner6765 2 года назад

    Awsome work as always 👍👍

  • @Fatamus
    @Fatamus 2 года назад

    Making oil 🛢 😡 grrr
    thanks for the video and for your time .
    Comedy or self humor? 🤣😂🤣 I call it self humor when no one else laughs... 😎 I find that funny.😉😉

  • @chadwayne165
    @chadwayne165 2 года назад

    Yes !!! Do bloopers!!!

  • @jeriwollmann7366
    @jeriwollmann7366 2 года назад +3

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Great ending Josh. Bloopers is a great idea. Caught the "F" word too. So hilarious 😂!! Loved the destruction. Keevan has the perfect destruction. I got the shout out too Josh. Love the die diagnosis. Pretty neat. Cheers Josh on a great video. Your mechanic friends are pretty awesome 🔧🧰🪛👍💪

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад +3

      I didn't hear the F word, must have been in the background from one of the other guys talking to me. Oh well, keeping it real 😎

    • @jeriwollmann7366
      @jeriwollmann7366 2 года назад +1

      @@AdeptApe 12:10 🤭👅🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @badgerpa9
    @badgerpa9 2 года назад

    Nice trick with the meat injector. Be safe.

  • @kwmiked
    @kwmiked 2 года назад +1

    I run the 6.0 on my ratchet and stubbys, those knock off batteries aren't that good. They leave tool down on power. Watch your local Home Depot, I found 4 packs that came with a 6.0 and a cp3.0 for 99$ I bought all 4. I use the cp3.0 in the jacket cause they last a hr longer then the 2.0..they have new HO 5.0 and 2.5 m12 batteries. Watch for sales at HD

  • @derweibhai
    @derweibhai 2 года назад

    My Massey Ferguson 265 had the same issue. Hopefully replacing the diaphragm lift pump fixed it. Otherwise I have a leak in the injection pump.

  • @nickayivor8432
    @nickayivor8432 2 года назад

    PROFICIENT Adept Ape
    Thanks for sharing it tutorial great video brilliant thank you very much information Take care and have a great Evening with all your family around you
    PROFICIENT Adept Ape
    Questions time why not use Oscilloscope to Diagnostics the vehicle 🤔 thank you
    From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧

  • @mtgwdefender
    @mtgwdefender 2 года назад

    Wow! I am the first viewer. 😁😁Thank you very much for all your videos. You are the best!

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад

      You are the first, glad you like the videos.

  • @umehmmaduabuchi7879
    @umehmmaduabuchi7879 Год назад

    Thankyou for your videos, please what else can be the problem if the injectors are okay, what's the name of the substance you put into the fuel filter and lastly the name of the touch that you are using to dictate a faulty injector?. Please reply me

  • @crusiethmaximuss
    @crusiethmaximuss 2 года назад

    7:52 looks like predator blood. Dang, perfect opportunity missed to edit in footage of Mac firin' that minigun into the jungle.

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад

      Dang, that is a good idea actually. It didn't even occur to me.

  • @K_Hansen
    @K_Hansen 2 года назад

    on the old 3406's inside lines where famos for this but there would be a definant miss

  • @crabmansteve6844
    @crabmansteve6844 2 года назад +1

    The bigger battery will make that impact SLAP. It's awesome.

  • @frankroy9423
    @frankroy9423 2 года назад

    If it's fuel could be injector seal or inj pump. Or could be power steering pump seal if it's not fuel.

  • @chadharmon5716
    @chadharmon5716 2 года назад

    could of swore this turned into a cooking show about basting a turkey 😂

  • @jeffsnider3588
    @jeffsnider3588 2 года назад +1

    Cat should hire you to work in the engine design group or even better since you technically work for Cat or for a Cat dealer the engine design group should rotate engine mechanics in the design group for a period of time and also design Engineers thru the engine repair bays for some experience.

  • @Jsdiesel1776
    @Jsdiesel1776 2 года назад +1

    I’ve used A/C dye before which I’m sure is bad for the injectors. But how do you feel about that? Thanks for your time.

  • @ukkomies100
    @ukkomies100 Год назад

    3:50 i want to mod my car so it makes that sound everytime its about to start

  • @narcissistinjurygiver2932
    @narcissistinjurygiver2932 2 года назад

    in s florida. where can i find a cheap used detroit diesel engine? something scrap level cheap

  • @carlhelmick7711
    @carlhelmick7711 2 года назад

    Awesome 😀👍

  • @kreasilubis5098
    @kreasilubis5098 2 года назад +1

    Bro, request next video about oil cooler leaching.. dou you have experience before about that? Come share to us

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад +7

      Actually will be discussing that in a video coming up. Might be the next one. Thanks for watching.

  • @michaelbonar162
    @michaelbonar162 2 года назад

    Curious why you haven’t updated ET to 2022B?

  • @burroaks7
    @burroaks7 2 года назад

    10+ year automotive technician/mechanic I prefer mechanic lol looking at what you are working on.........."MOTHER OF GOD THE WORKSPACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "NO FLEX HEAD RATCHET????!?!!!!!!?!!!! , NEVERMIND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED IT!!"

  • @shobankumar9769
    @shobankumar9769 2 года назад

    Broken or worn pushrods ,,,

  • @olivertaylor8788
    @olivertaylor8788 Год назад

    Fuel pump seals shot..simple

  • @nickd.4512
    @nickd.4512 2 года назад

    I hadan intertrashinal wrecker that made oil and fuel, the o rings qere shot for the injectors. Put fuel in the oil and put oil in the fuel turning everything in the fuel tank brown. Dam 466

  • @JesusTorres-qr1gz
    @JesusTorres-qr1gz 2 года назад

    Gentleman I am a retired diesel technician, you said that cat electronic injectors can't be checked outside, respectfully I disagree with that, easily you can make a tool for that, please no offense, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres.

  • @buckskinlady
    @buckskinlady 2 года назад +1

    what’s up with the crazy loud buzzer?

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад +3

      That is the crane buzzer every time you turn the overhead crane on.

  • @mic8040
    @mic8040 2 года назад

    Fuel injector seal maybe?

  • @jeff82chevy
    @jeff82chevy 2 года назад

    Does Matt still work there?

  • @lorenzomeza6289
    @lorenzomeza6289 2 года назад

    do you recommend c12 ? trying to by a 2003 KW Whit That small engine

    • @bigred1247
      @bigred1247 2 года назад

      C12's are tough like our c13's but a 12 is very well designed engine

    • @darrencatenacci2737
      @darrencatenacci2737 2 года назад

      I had a C-12 in a 2000 truck was an excellent little engine. Reliable good fuel economy, not the best in hill country. Miss that little truck much. They did have a few issues but Cat solved them by about 03 so should be good.

  • @Mutts1979
    @Mutts1979 2 года назад

    Is there a special dye made for the fuel ?

  • @noclass2gun342
    @noclass2gun342 2 года назад +1

    if you wanna see a really epic destruction, steve morris of steve morris racing engines has an interesting one. 4500hp billet block drag motor kicked all 8 rods at the same time

  • @hughwolfe8524
    @hughwolfe8524 2 года назад

    Injectors what I would have said first thing .

  • @gubbben123
    @gubbben123 Год назад

    Check out the torque test channel to verify the higher torque out put

  • @ianatkinson8464
    @ianatkinson8464 2 года назад

    😎👍

  • @Mark-wt9hx
    @Mark-wt9hx 2 года назад

    Looks like it had of road fuel in it

  • @dhillonsavee
    @dhillonsavee 2 года назад

    Pro

  • @DavidDallas3343
    @DavidDallas3343 2 года назад

    Just another way cat gets you to buy something else don't reuse injector hold down bolts spend $50 a bolt

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  2 года назад

      I think they are $4 each surprisingly, but they could be $100 each by next week who knows.

  • @timmay2k
    @timmay2k 2 года назад

    That’s an expensive fix. Gotta replace all fuel lines steam clean the tanks etc.

    • @thetowndrunk988
      @thetowndrunk988 2 года назад

      Clean the tanks and replace the lines for what?

  • @Ripsaw17
    @Ripsaw17 2 года назад +1

    Being a cat 99% of the time it's the injectors I would replace injectors and cups Cups because if you're going to replace them injector you don't generally put it on Old cup you put it on a new one cuz usually the injector seal has failed which either means the copper cup has expanded too much from running it too hot which that's a bucket truck which means it's probably idling all the time and I got a bit warm and cooked the seal

  • @Ripsaw17
    @Ripsaw17 2 года назад

    The CAT engine and you're making oil it's injector cups usually you can find diesel fuel in the radiator but in this case you're getting diesel fuel in your oil which means just feel on the injector went bad

  • @Ripsaw17
    @Ripsaw17 2 года назад

    I've seen it on quite a few ISX 15 engines of course my drivers don't really give a s*** about their f****** trucks so I see that a lot in my shop

  • @Ripsaw17
    @Ripsaw17 2 года назад

    Do you want the 6 amp battery and it doesn't hit harder it just lasts you all day long where the twos and the fours you'll have to change out during the day usually is 6 amp battery you can get all day out of it I love the Milwaukee stuff five year warranty I'm on my second 3/8 stubby best damn tool I ever bought the first one lasted me 4 years yes I could have sent it in for a warranty but I abused the hell out of that thing and quite honestly the reason it broke was my fault would they have warranted it and sent me a brand new one yes but I figured I abused it I got 4 years out of it I'm extremely happy I bought another one just to get a couple new batteries go for the six amp battery it'll last you all day

  • @Ripsaw17
    @Ripsaw17 2 года назад

    Truck Idols a lot most likely just cooked an injector seal