Have a hybrid, Kona 2 (24sqm) I bought a Solos harness. I am headed back to Oludeniz and not an actual hike and fly pilot, just a 56 year old looking to ditch the weight. This helped a lot! I adapted it and my full size fits with room for my helmet! And the weight difference... Oh my knees are yelling all colors of thank-you!
For a moment I thought ... "Is Greg going to launch from inside his shed ? ... this is going to be interesting !" :D Brilliant repack technique !! .. I can spend longer sticking it in a stuff sack !! haha :D
If you want a good porosity level on the top mid cells you must fold different way. The center cells are the most exposed all the time and the most important.
Id like to see a few videos on different ways to pack your wing, and tips to pack faster or in windy conditions. Packing is something I havent quite gotten down yet.
in windy conditions? get it out of the wind! you only need something knee height to create a lee area to work in. Or do this same folding method with the wing laid across the wind and the last roll downwind, it will work just fine.
@@FlyWithGreg It would be really interesting to see an example of "fast packing" maybe less fast but more "good for the wing", for a situation that is not hike and fly; I always struggle to pack my wing decently and in a decent amount of time. Also, I have a reversible harness, I suppose this technique doesn't apply for this sort of harness (or maybe it does?) Thanks for the great work you're doing for our amazing sport!
@@alexrands2580 it's rarely that windy at the ground level to actually cause serious issues, but if it is, you can just allign with the wind direction (length-wise), quickly grab the sides of the leading edge together, then more precisely fold all the intakes. At that point the wing won't catch any more air and it should be easier to rotate it 90deg to finish. Conertina definitely helps to pack the rest, as you can clip parts of the wing as you organize them and it won't be unfolded by the wind.
OK Greg, well done in a controlled environment with wing pseudo folded first. Now let's time it coming into a landing, gusty conditions, uneven terrain! I'm sure you can still rock it, but would be interesting to see real-life example/timing.
challenge accepted! but right now, the way the ground is in the UK, I wasn't taking a white wing out into that muck. I'm sure I'll do a packing-lapse in one of the many H&F races this year.
hi greg the only thing that poses a problem for me in your storage is the jacket that you position on the outside of the bag, by putting it on the strap side it would prevent acidic perspiration from damaging the coatings of the sail😉
Do you wear jeans and sneakers for hike n fly racing? 😉 Just kidding- awesome video! I do tons of hike n fly but I’m always super slow and thorough with packing the wing. I have the exact same kit- Trek Light, Strike, OXA3. Love it!
1:10 pack away From : in pod clipped in, helmet jacket, wing scruffy on ground. To : no rucksack no bag roll wing into harness seat, clip seat, use shoulder - cheststrap (can use compression strap for waist belt. ~0 grams. Cant post videos here greg, any other place?
thanks, got your video over on facebook, nice bunch and scrunch! We used to do that on the dunes with our training wings. They ended up looking like limp lettuce, covered in sweat, and you gotta be super careful with that line stack dumped in the wing. But yeah, for a short land-ascend-refly I'll use this kind of style, or just bunch it over my shoulder and walk = 10 seconds.
@@FlyWithGreg lol lines i was just trying to beat your time 😁ye, iv been carefully abusing my s8 like this for years its still in good condition , . Swet : i can push/nee the wing all the way into the cockpit saddle if im sweaty and i always have the nose plate against my lower back inside or outside of the straps , this is actually comfortable and i can walk for miles !!!?!! It leaves good airflow and no contact. or with a concertina bag I may put a flying layer between me and the wing. It seems to work, the subtle Tweeks are the key, No rucksack +/- concertina for years now and use a strap for a waist belt, just seems excess redundant wait . Not everyone's cupa i know, but all the more - 0 grams for me . Thanks for replying. , supair evo xc 3+!!??? I have a light ozium to 😅🙈.
One Thing, may be its just me. But with unsheathed lines I always split left and right sets into left and right side of the glider otherwise they get tangled badly. If they are tangled I can find each set of 'A' lines from each side without having a complete mess.
yes I tested that out but it takes more time and doesn't offer an advantage over laying the lines carefully in the long loop trail that I do. The key is to never drop a stack of looped lines on the wing, make sure they are stretched out and not able to cross over each other ... and then don't pull the risers out after folding.
it's impossible to keep the rods flat on modern two liners - those rods run the entire chord. The secret is not to BEND them too tightly around a tight pinch point, hence the harness 'roll'
takes me just under 4min but i must say its a lot neater xDD Peak 4 has loads of nitinol reinforcements so i concertina the trailing edge first (roughly) then lay the harness on it and neat up the leading edge so its all in the same plane (laying flat) then its the same wrapping around harness idea
The Jacket trick is very slick. Might try to incorporate that. I'm a motor guy so I can't roll up the harness fully clipped of course. I have to unclip every time. I've just started flying an Apco Hybrid. It has plastic rib formers in the trailing edge as well as the leading edge. Any ideas for packing it up? Don't need speed, my main concern is preserving the wing. The Apco instruction are - minimal.
Love the use of the jacket. I am going to practice that. I detest having to repack. It always takes me ages. I heard somewhere that actually keeping everything in a stuff pack was better for the glider. However, I like your method. Now how to do that with an Alpha 6 28?!...
great Greg. Right challenge for winter blues. Could you share a link for your brake balls (red, blue) on your brakes? Have you changed the speed system of your strike or is it still the original? Many thanks!
Balls come from a craft shop, kids play pieces. Any big bead will do. I've modified speed system to remove dangerous brummels, replaced with loop and washer.
What is your trick to make sure the lines are not twisted when preparing for flight? This is my biggest concern and obstacle for such a packing method...
I have the same question because Greg turns the harness anti clockwise when he lifts it onto the glider when packing, and when he unpacks it he lifts it off and steps into it and appears to turn anti clock wise again. So I do not understand how it is not twisted a full twist anticlockwise. I have always packed my glider similar but with the harness in the forward direction without any twists.
That works with a big (heavy) rucksack, but when you try to go ultralight, ultrasmall ... you have to get really aggressive to just smash it into a bag!
Unless you leave your glider flat and drag it home in an unfolded concertina bag you must bend the wires. The secret is to bend them around the largest curve you can (like this) to avoid damage/kinking.
unless you are going to drag your wing along in its concertina bag, you have to bend the wing somewhere. Doing it at 1/3 of chord, rolled around the harness and wing, gives it the best chance of holding its shape over time.
@@yanerik6850 hahahaa, of course I could also have my packing team do it for me, but I prefer to look after my wing because it's taken me days to train it how to fly by itself while I take selfies and livestream...
Very nive done ! It takes me between 6 and 7 minutes to pack my Alpha glider into my concertina bag, beating myself with the air trapped in the wing...
good point, I left out the black bin bag I use for rain and sweat protection ... for normal flying I use a glider stuffbag in its place. It adds at least 10 seconds to my time :-)
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Great Video! Really good ideas inside! Will try to include these in my own practice! Thanks for that ...
Interesting use of the jacket! I never thought of that. Time to get practicing. :)
at long as it doesnt get cold/wet later on :D
In military you can learn even more tricks with jacket. ;)
Ha ha ha, pretty cool, Greg! Time to prepare your application for the RedBull X-Alps now!
Thanks for the great videos!!! I have been hang gliding for 15 years and now started paragliding and paramotoring. :)
Valeu!
Thank you Marcus! The fastest pack is the one you don't do ... because you keep flying! :-) good luck with your hike and fly
I am pretty close - just 17 minutes.....
Have a hybrid, Kona 2 (24sqm) I bought a Solos harness. I am headed back to Oludeniz and not an actual hike and fly pilot, just a 56 year old looking to ditch the weight. This helped a lot! I adapted it and my full size fits with room for my helmet! And the weight difference... Oh my knees are yelling all colors of thank-you!
For a moment I thought ... "Is Greg going to launch from inside his shed ? ... this is going to be interesting !" :D
Brilliant repack technique !! .. I can spend longer sticking it in a stuff sack !! haha :D
If you want a good porosity level on the top mid cells you must fold different way. The center cells are the most exposed all the time and the most important.
Just love this one. Getting the Ozone A4 and F-Race. The jacket pakking is just a fantastisk idee.
Again another super helpful video!!!! You are the best
COOOL! U R THE BEST GREG!!! CHERS FROM SWITZERLAND
*presses speed dial on phone*
Hello? Wing abuse hotline? Yeah... It's me again!...
Brilliant, never thought of using the jacket like that. Thanks :D
Id like to see a few videos on different ways to pack your wing, and tips to pack faster or in windy conditions. Packing is something I havent quite gotten down yet.
in windy conditions? get it out of the wind! you only need something knee height to create a lee area to work in. Or do this same folding method with the wing laid across the wind and the last roll downwind, it will work just fine.
@@FlyWithGreg It would be really interesting to see an example of "fast packing" maybe less fast but more "good for the wing", for a situation that is not hike and fly; I always struggle to pack my wing decently and in a decent amount of time. Also, I have a reversible harness, I suppose this technique doesn't apply for this sort of harness (or maybe it does?) Thanks for the great work you're doing for our amazing sport!
Perfect! I've been charmed of your trick with jacket))) Awesome)) Doing almost like that.
Love the jacket use. Brilliant if it's windy too✌🏽
It's cool and fast, Grag! Thanks.
That was slick!!!
bravo Greg 😉.
Awesome man. Thanks 😊
Loop and washer? In lieu of Brummell. Picture please...
Nice shed Greg!
2:04 You rarely see a "rosette" (german expression, be careful when googling) as great as this in the wild life... :)
... especially if you do it in the wind, with an EN A :-) not everyone has a packing shed available on landing, either!
@@FlyWithGreg that sparks one of my big questions. How to pack in the wind? I've had much trouble with that.
@@alexrands2580 it's rarely that windy at the ground level to actually cause serious issues, but if it is, you can just allign with the wind direction (length-wise), quickly grab the sides of the leading edge together, then more precisely fold all the intakes. At that point the wing won't catch any more air and it should be easier to rotate it 90deg to finish. Conertina definitely helps to pack the rest, as you can clip parts of the wing as you organize them and it won't be unfolded by the wind.
@@alexrands2580 my general answer to that (potentially Greg has a better one) is: put yourself / the glider)in a 90degrees angle to the wind
Well done , no Long fiddling around
OK Greg, well done in a controlled environment with wing pseudo folded first. Now let's time it coming into a landing, gusty conditions, uneven terrain! I'm sure you can still rock it, but would be interesting to see real-life example/timing.
challenge accepted! but right now, the way the ground is in the UK, I wasn't taking a white wing out into that muck. I'm sure I'll do a packing-lapse in one of the many H&F races this year.
hi greg the only thing that poses a problem for me in your storage is the jacket that you position on the outside of the bag, by putting it on the strap side it would prevent acidic perspiration from damaging the coatings of the sail😉
Passion.🙌🏽
So interesting to watch this video . 👍👍👍👍👍
Looks awesome but if you get air in your wing it maybe takes a little, or quite a bit more time to pack
Simply perfect!
Do you wear jeans and sneakers for hike n fly racing? 😉
Just kidding- awesome video! I do tons of hike n fly but I’m always super slow and thorough with packing the wing. I have the exact same kit- Trek Light, Strike, OXA3. Love it!
Impressive😊
Thank you!!!!!
Can you make a concertina packing video?
1:10 pack away
From : in pod clipped in, helmet jacket, wing scruffy on ground.
To : no rucksack no bag roll wing into harness seat, clip seat, use shoulder - cheststrap (can use compression strap for waist belt. ~0 grams.
Cant post videos here greg, any other place?
thanks, got your video over on facebook, nice bunch and scrunch! We used to do that on the dunes with our training wings. They ended up looking like limp lettuce, covered in sweat, and you gotta be super careful with that line stack dumped in the wing. But yeah, for a short land-ascend-refly I'll use this kind of style, or just bunch it over my shoulder and walk = 10 seconds.
@@FlyWithGreg lol lines i was just trying to beat your time 😁ye, iv been carefully abusing my s8 like this for years its still in good condition , .
Swet : i can push/nee the wing all the way into the cockpit saddle if im sweaty and i always have the nose plate against my lower back inside or outside of the straps , this is actually comfortable and i can walk for miles !!!?!! It leaves good airflow and no contact. or with a concertina bag I may put a flying layer between me and the wing. It seems to work, the subtle Tweeks are the key,
No rucksack +/- concertina for years now and use a strap for a waist belt, just seems excess redundant wait . Not everyone's cupa i know, but all the more - 0 grams for me .
Thanks for replying.
, supair evo xc 3+!!??? I have a light ozium to 😅🙈.
king of the sky
more like king of the shed, but thanks for the image! :-)
When you do not cellpack the ribs is not the structure damaged?
One Thing, may be its just me. But with unsheathed lines I always split left and right sets into left and right side of the glider otherwise they get tangled badly. If they are tangled I can find each set of 'A' lines from each side without having a complete mess.
yes I tested that out but it takes more time and doesn't offer an advantage over laying the lines carefully in the long loop trail that I do. The key is to never drop a stack of looped lines on the wing, make sure they are stretched out and not able to cross over each other ... and then don't pull the risers out after folding.
nice, never seen the trick with the jacket.... see you @ the eigertour
the thing with jacket is nice ;)
great! impressive m8
Hello Greg✌️. It doesn’t look like you try to keep the rods flat. Is this something that is not necessary anymore now that the rods are plastic?
it's impossible to keep the rods flat on modern two liners - those rods run the entire chord. The secret is not to BEND them too tightly around a tight pinch point, hence the harness 'roll'
takes me just under 4min but i must say its a lot neater xDD
Peak 4 has loads of nitinol reinforcements so i concertina the trailing edge first (roughly) then lay the harness on it and neat up the leading edge so its all in the same plane (laying flat) then its the same wrapping around harness idea
The Jacket trick is very slick. Might try to incorporate that. I'm a motor guy so I can't roll up the harness fully clipped of course. I have to unclip every time. I've just started flying an Apco Hybrid. It has plastic rib formers in the trailing edge as well as the leading edge. Any ideas for packing it up? Don't need speed, my main concern is preserving the wing. The Apco instruction are - minimal.
Love the use of the jacket. I am going to practice that. I detest having to repack. It always takes me ages. I heard somewhere that actually keeping everything in a stuff pack was better for the glider. However, I like your method. Now how to do that with an Alpha 6 28?!...
Use ironing instead of your knees!
hi!
Do you have the Bumpair protection in the harness in this example ? I know it's compulsory in some races.
Thanks
Yes the normal foam one, it compresses easily
@@FlyWithGreg OK thanks! See you on the EigerTour ;)
Only a skydive rig opens faster ;-) Nice!
Hello Greg, can you share with us the sizes of the Equipment? (Harnes S-M-L, Wing S-M-L, Bag S-M-L ?)
Oxa 3.22, strike m, beamer3 lite S, bag is 80L trek350.
Ninja!
great Greg. Right challenge for winter blues. Could you share a link for your brake balls (red, blue) on your brakes? Have you changed the speed system of your strike or is it still the original? Many thanks!
Balls come from a craft shop, kids play pieces. Any big bead will do. I've modified speed system to remove dangerous brummels, replaced with loop and washer.
Can you share pic of your loop and washer speed bar hack?
What is your trick to make sure the lines are not twisted when preparing for flight? This is my biggest concern and obstacle for such a packing method...
I have the same question because Greg turns the harness anti clockwise when he lifts it onto the glider when packing, and when he unpacks it he lifts it off and steps into it and appears to turn anti clock wise again. So I do not understand how it is not twisted a full twist anticlockwise. I have always packed my glider similar but with the harness in the forward direction without any twists.
Crap...it takes me about 30mins just to get out of the harness. Good job, Greg.
Greg how long did it take to put up the shed and where does that stow? ;)
noooo wayyy!!!
Anyone posted a link of there fast pack yet? , ive got the same gear , time for me to practice.
I just stuff everything into the rucksack as it comes... harness first, though. No issues yet. Same time, or faster.
That works with a big (heavy) rucksack, but when you try to go ultralight, ultrasmall ... you have to get really aggressive to just smash it into a bag!
thats packing for x alps :)
Haha, at least double that if you need to inflate/deflate the protector first (in the Skywalk Range X-Alps or Ozone F*Race) :D
Спасибо тебе чувак , ты качественный
How did you not bend the leading edge wires?
Unless you leave your glider flat and drag it home in an unfolded concertina bag you must bend the wires. The secret is to bend them around the largest curve you can (like this) to avoid damage/kinking.
With Nitinol
With Nitinol leading edge, you can bend it tight. No problem
Ha! Indoors with no wind! Doesn't count - no points!
Plastic rods in the leading edge are bent...
Our Greg can afford to buy a new wing every year now that he's made it big ;)
unless you are going to drag your wing along in its concertina bag, you have to bend the wing somewhere. Doing it at 1/3 of chord, rolled around the harness and wing, gives it the best chance of holding its shape over time.
@@yanerik6850 hahahaa, of course I could also have my packing team do it for me, but I prefer to look after my wing because it's taken me days to train it how to fly by itself while I take selfies and livestream...
Super low drag and idiot-resistant. I love it. Simple.
Грэг! 🙂🤙
Did I hear some Swedish in the end there?
I'm not going to translate but that girl need some mouth washing... 😉
It would take me thirty minutes 😉
Just like me :-))
I can do it faster easy... I'd just die when I try to take off.
Very nive done ! It takes me between 6 and 7 minutes to pack my Alpha glider into my concertina bag, beating myself with the air trapped in the wing...
Hey Greg, watch out for sweat/salt from your jacket ;). It may dammage your glider when it's sunny hot day ;).
good point, I left out the black bin bag I use for rain and sweat protection ... for normal flying I use a glider stuffbag in its place. It adds at least 10 seconds to my time :-)
@@FlyWithGreg A bin bag is noted!
lol
I beat you by far --- at least 15 minutes
15 minutes faster than Greg!!!
@@benseddonharvey2727 LOL