Thank you for publishing this video, at the time i first watch it, i Was still puzzle about using tires or sheaves. You were the one to solve my problem, i have purchased the same sheeve and i am greatfull for your advise. It works good. Sgt rod
great job Red. im glad i caught your video. its the money that has kept me from getting a mill. and building one is my only option. so thumbs up to ya. and i hope to see your mill running.
Gawd I can't believe its been 6 years since I started watching Red Poppy Ranch, clear before there was the ranch here it is Jan 29 2024 now !!! and he has hardly used this mill he built !!!
Hep buddy thanks form the info, you've done your home work, and given a great deal of though to the build. Good luck stay safe in these uncertain times.
Top Man The way to Homesteading not like these "WANGLE*****" types who ask for new kit to be sent to them for free. Keep up the good work Seeds from this channel are now sown your will reap the harvest in the coming years
I worked in an old apartment building that had two of both those pulleies in every hallway for the old dum waiters! Sold everyone to guys building sawmills! I got $50 each for the big ones.$10 for smaller ones back in 2014
Dang Man I just now found your videos. You have done a great job putting them together. I have been thinking about building one myself. You got me thinking......
Thought about this today after looking at mills. Pretty sure I will diy with a small diesel using a pto/clutch setup that allows for blade engagement progressively, as well as a clutch to a power feed. I actually am considering using a hydrostat mower transaxle to run both blade and carriage. I think if I take my time getting good deals/scavenging, under $1000 is doable. Also a tiller might be a really good PTO source! The ability to have a hydraulic output alone is cool. I mean honestly they can be had cheap enough, (nearly free) it would be worth it just for hydraulics to turn or lift, and drive to feed. I'm betting the hydros are good enough to at least lift and lower a saw or turn a log. Even cooler if I can utilize the low RPM PTO to lift a log. Anyone thought of adding a vertical cutter to their carriage? Something else it might be able to do. Use circular saw blades with adjustable position on an output shaft, say 3 of them, that could cut 1x or 2x on a first pass, with the band saw taking the second. Could even use the depth of the band cuts to be the set depth of the circular saws. I think 7-10 hp would have no problem with a few 10" blades long as the feed speed is reasonable. Still faster than turn slice turn
bought same pulley from surplus center but get the pulley for 1.5 shaft my shaft broke with the smaller shaft after some use all these items cam be bought at surplus center .com blade guides from cook saw are great but pricey
I would recommend some diagonal welded bracing and a double vertical arm instead of a single. 4 pipes, not two for the vertical support. 3 bearing blade guides not one in order to encapsulate and control the blade and keep it from slipping off. 13 hp or above, 10 inch large pully or larger on the drive wheel.
Good Morning from South Carolina. I am building a mill based on using the sheaves. How do you determine what the blade width should be or what blade width are you using? Thanks.
I really like the boat winch idea. I am building one of these too. What is the vertical travel of the blade for every click of the boat winch? Can you move 16ths of an inch? Is it consistent? Thanks for making the videos!
Wish you the best of luck but concerned about those large pulleys. They look like belt pulleys. If so I don't think they will work as they are. Is there something missing?
Not officially sure. I have an Idea what it's going to take. The pulleys I have are likely too small but I'm going to try it. There will be a little figuring once I get it all together.
Hey there. If the engine came off a generator as you mentioned, 99.9% of today's generators like you get at the local home centers run 3600 RPM, goverened speed no matter what the HP, watts / KW. Hope this helps and again, sweet build you have going on there. As for the tapered shaft on the gen motor, I just had a snowblower motor given to me here in North central FL...Go figure. We don't get much snow in FL. Anyhow, the shaft is in 3 steps with the smallest diameter being 7/8" (.875"). It's going to be a bit of a challenge getting things lined up on it when I decide to build.
Hey, how long a shaft did you use per side of you would be so kind? Just trying to get a rough idea how much I should order. Great job documenting the project. It is funny, our red poppies just came up when I come across your channel. We only have a couple though that grow around the gas well. Wish we had the profusion that grows in you AO, would love to harvest them for the herbal properties. Think parts are edible also.
I'm curious as to how balanced the sheaves are? I know they are typically statically balanced. I ask because I intend to build my own upright bandsaw. I can order wheels from a few different equipment manufacturers, but I'm looking at $300-400 for the wheels alone. I honestly don't mind the cost, if I'm assured of running the machine at 3000+ SFPM with little vibration, but if I can get wheels for $100, obviously I'm in favor ...
Theball Player i've ran them at over 4000 SFPM without any issue which is way too fast by the way. The blades are designed to run that fast. I haven't had any balance issues.
What kind of store does one buy stuff like this? I want to get into the "maker" scene but finding stuff like this in first place is very hard. Home Depot, Canadian Tire etc does not really carry stuff like that.
With an 11 hp engine your blade should roll out around 3800 sfpm . With that being said I can look right at your set up and tell you that your blade speed is going to be about three as fast as you want/need it to be. My guess is that you needed three of the 18.75 pulleys not two. Don't take my word for it, do the calculations for your self on this site. vintagemachinery.org/math/sfpm.aspx
Also SFPM in relationship to HP are a general guideline in the sawmill world and can vary with max RPM of said engine. Most standard engines run at 3600 to 3800 RPM max. This is what I've found from other sawyers/builders. 10 HP = 3600 SFPM 11 HP = 3800 SFPM 12 HP = 4000 SFPM 14 HP = 4200 SFPM 16 HP =4400 SFPM 18 HP and up 4500 SFPM and the blade should never exceed this nor should it need to, if the gear ratios are correct it will cut with authority.
I looked up the sheave you listed at Surplus Center #1-BK190-E. The description said "Fractional HP". Does that mean it's rated to transmit only a fraction of one Horse Power?
Red Poppy Ranch I’ve been looking at different places for the sheaves and they aren’t cheap. Almost every place wants at least $200 a piece for them. I’ll keep looking around
How fo you plan to have a band blade run in a V grove ? fill the grove with liquid rubber to support the band ? or machine one side off the V and make a flat surface ? Just confused on the planing with the 18 in pully
That sounds fine to fill the V area , there is a shoulder to hold the band on also , on pulleys on band saws , besides the guide wheels on the supports , worth your time to look at some expanded saw pulley pics . Great to see you do this build at such a lower cost . Best regards John
There is a saw already made that works real well as a sawmill. It need only be mounted in a carriage and placed on a track and trailer to mill logs with the diameter of 9" or less and as long as 12' - 6" or longer however length you desire to make it. I've worked hard all my life as a remodeling contractor and can appreciate the ingenuity and hard work these guys put into fabricating a sawmill of their dreams. But not me anymore, I'm burned out and saw a simpler way out and ran with it. Feel free to use my idea. It really works better than I thought. It is more compacted. lighter and very simple to maintain and needs only two saddles and an 90 degree angle saddle to hold the log. I just wish I'd thought of it 20 years ago. ruclips.net/video/Oq7fOd_O5yM/видео.html DeWalt radial arm saws, models 770 and 790 are dual voltage 110/220 and are stout old workhorses with plenty of life left in them and people damn near give them away because they are heavy and heavy duty.
You seem to a jack of all trades! Good gift to have for building a Homestead and every not a lot of in come coming. And a blessed family too.
Your knowledge and ability to share it is extraordinary!! Thank you so much. Love the family.
Thank you for publishing this video, at the time i first watch it, i Was still puzzle about using tires or sheaves. You were the one to solve my problem, i have purchased the same sheeve and i am greatfull for your advise. It works good. Sgt rod
Appreciate the video. Its crazy to look at the inflated prices of the items you have listed in 2023
great job Red. im glad i caught your video. its the money that has kept me from getting a mill. and building one is my only option. so thumbs up to ya. and i hope to see your mill running.
Gawd I can't believe its been 6 years since I started watching Red Poppy Ranch, clear before there was the ranch here it is Jan 29 2024 now !!! and he has hardly used this mill he built !!!
Hep buddy thanks form the info, you've done your home work, and given a great deal of though to the build. Good luck stay safe in these uncertain times.
Top Man
The way to Homesteading not like these "WANGLE*****" types who ask for new kit to be sent to them for free.
Keep up the good work Seeds from this channel are now sown your will reap the harvest in the coming years
Thanks Richard!
I can hardly wait for part 3!
I'm all excited for the big reveal & seeing you mill some lumber 😎
I worked in an old apartment building that had two of both those pulleies in every hallway for the old dum waiters! Sold everyone to guys building sawmills! I got $50 each for the big ones.$10 for smaller ones back in 2014
Dang Man I just now found your videos. You have done a great job putting them together. I have been thinking about building one myself. You got me thinking......
Can't wait to see the mill in action! Will last a lifetime!
From where I buy it ?
A second note I look forward to seeing this come to life at 1/3 cost of new
You're rocking it ! Flying right through that looking forward to seeing it done and working.
Thank you for the video you are like a wizard,Take Care and can't wait for the finished job.
Thanks for the parts list. Thats what i call cool. Im in Mendocino. Going to build one dudes.
Loads of information thank you very much
Looking forward to seeing this thing work.
Just what I was looking for!. Thanks !!
Love the detailed list of parts! I would love to build one of these!!
Fantastic info on what's needed and providing sites where to get everything. I see the large pulleys are almost double the price now though. :(
Great video
I have most parts for a mill just needed a few items now. The big shives
Nice ,can't wait to see it working with all together
Thought about this today after looking at mills. Pretty sure I will diy with a small diesel using a pto/clutch setup that allows for blade engagement progressively, as well as a clutch to a power feed. I actually am considering using a hydrostat mower transaxle to run both blade and carriage. I think if I take my time getting good deals/scavenging, under $1000 is doable. Also a tiller might be a really good PTO source! The ability to have a hydraulic output alone is cool. I mean honestly they can be had cheap enough, (nearly free) it would be worth it just for hydraulics to turn or lift, and drive to feed. I'm betting the hydros are good enough to at least lift and lower a saw or turn a log. Even cooler if I can utilize the low RPM PTO to lift a log. Anyone thought of adding a vertical cutter to their carriage? Something else it might be able to do. Use circular saw blades with adjustable position on an output shaft, say 3 of them, that could cut 1x or 2x on a first pass, with the band saw taking the second. Could even use the depth of the band cuts to be the set depth of the circular saws. I think 7-10 hp would have no problem with a few 10" blades long as the feed speed is reasonable. Still faster than turn slice turn
Since you posted the source and price for those 18.75 inch sheaves, the store increase the price 300% . Capitalism at its best :)
Joe Biden at his best
Seen this post was 4yrs ago wonder what they are now
Thanks for the video and the laundry list.
Great presentation
bought same pulley from surplus center but get the pulley for 1.5 shaft my shaft broke with the smaller shaft after some use all these items cam be bought at surplus center .com blade guides from cook saw are great but pricey
I just received my wheels today and shaft and bearings. Going 1 3/16” as well.
Hey there where did you get the wheels from I’m missing something? I can’t find the link
Parts list but no link to find parts
I had a question about the shiv the one that you list the part shows a v-groove shouldn't it be a flat groove for a Saw band?
I would recommend some diagonal welded bracing and a double vertical arm instead of a single. 4 pipes, not two for the vertical support. 3 bearing blade guides not one in order to encapsulate and control the blade and keep it from slipping off. 13 hp or above, 10 inch large pully or larger on the drive wheel.
Great info, thanks.
I looked on eBay cant find pulleys for 17.00 what is the other cheaper web site thanks Koz
Muy bien amigo, me gustaria saber que motor poner para una maquina bastante grande que estoy haciendo. Saludos de argentina.
I'm thinking about building myself one also.
I really enjoy your channel, cheers
Thanks for the support!
any idea when part 3 will be put on your channel..this is the best diy videos on RUclips on a sawmill build..thanks william
I'm really trying to do it right. Hopefully later this week. Thanks for watching!
If the blade 1 inch boar (vertical) what is the right shaft size and from where you got the shaft?
Did you use hot rolled bar stock for the shafts or cold rolled?
Awesome
Very helpful thanks
I would be interested in the safety features when you get that far. Both personal and mechanical ... blade stops ... etc.
Absolutely!
Where the clutch pulley without clutch you be cranking engine with blades engaged making it harder to crank ?
Thanks a lot.
What do you run in the inside of your pulley for the blade to rude on ?
nice job
What size belt did you use to fit snub on the pulley's?
Where did you buy the larger pillows?
Good Morning from South Carolina. I am building a mill based on using the sheaves. How do you determine what the blade width should be or what blade width are you using? Thanks.
I really like the boat winch idea. I am building one of these too. What is the vertical travel of the blade for every click of the boat winch? Can you move 16ths of an inch? Is it consistent?
Thanks for making the videos!
Not sure yet. I will figure out what the turns represent on the winch. It's not as precise as acme rods but way cheaper...
Thats a ratchet winch you want a worm gear winch
On any cable winch, as the cable accumulates on the shaft the size is going to increase, thus changing the amount of travel on each turn.
love your videos. With a "B" belt what is the width of the blade you are using?
Thank you
Came here from the most recent video; you look like a kid in this video, lol! Did you use v-belts as tires on your blade pulleys?
How can get a full list of all the components that make a sawmill???
Where did you get your shafts for the sheaves
Local steel yard. 1-3/16 steel rod. I cut grooves in it.
Wish you the best of luck but concerned about those large pulleys. They look like belt pulleys. If so I don't think they will work as they are. Is there something missing?
Great Job!! I don't see a link where to buy the wheels can anyone help? thanks
Would you have the part number for the belts that you used on the sheaves as well?? And thanks for the info too!!
Donde puedo encontrar esas partes
Good job. Will the 18.75 wheels on eBay work well . I have found some at a place called warehouse surplus. Your help much appreciated. Thank
did you ever build the sawmill? kind of interested to see it finished.
How many rpms will your motor tolerate? And have you factored in the torque on your shaft? Do you have something to regulate those rpm's?
Not officially sure. I have an Idea what it's going to take. The pulleys I have are likely too small but I'm going to try it. There will be a little figuring once I get it all together.
Hey there. If the engine came off a generator as you mentioned, 99.9% of today's generators like you get at the local home centers run 3600 RPM, goverened speed no matter what the HP, watts / KW. Hope this helps and again, sweet build you have going on there. As for the tapered shaft on the gen motor, I just had a snowblower motor given to me here in North central FL...Go figure. We don't get much snow in FL. Anyhow, the shaft is in 3 steps with the smallest diameter being 7/8" (.875"). It's going to be a bit of a challenge getting things lined up on it when I decide to build.
change the crank shaft in the motor
Eh where did you get all those materials?
How you order that weels
Sir I want to buy a sawmill but.when I will get it
What’s the website for the pulleys
How many cost off bend saw
Hey, how long a shaft did you use per side of you would be so kind? Just trying to get a rough idea how much I should order. Great job documenting the project. It is funny, our red poppies just came up when I come across your channel. We only have a couple though that grow around the gas well. Wish we had the profusion that grows in you AO, would love to harvest them for the herbal properties. Think parts are edible also.
I ordered three feet and used around 1.25' per side
Thank you kindly. Was hoping I might get away with a yard section, but seemed like it might be a tad short.
Hey there where is the parts link to purchase the parts
Get a 14''to16'' drive pulley, you will find out why when you try to use the one you have.
can you explain why ? i'm planning on building a resaw
Can you tell me where you found the larger wheels for that price please and where you found the rest of your parts
I put it in the link. I found mine on Ebay. I'm not sure if there are anymore that cheap but surpluscenter.com had the next best price.
Royunderhill
Good video! What size belts do you run on those bandwheel/sheaves?
I think about 57".
Ok Thanks
What was the green things called
Pillow block bearings.
Como compro las partes.
I'm curious as to how balanced the sheaves are? I know they are typically statically balanced.
I ask because I intend to build my own upright bandsaw. I can order wheels from a few different equipment manufacturers, but I'm looking at $300-400 for the wheels alone.
I honestly don't mind the cost, if I'm assured of running the machine at 3000+ SFPM with little vibration, but if I can get wheels for $100, obviously I'm in favor ...
Theball Player i've ran them at over 4000 SFPM without any issue which is way too fast by the way. The blades are designed to run that fast. I haven't had any balance issues.
What kind of store does one buy stuff like this? I want to get into the "maker" scene but finding stuff like this in first place is very hard. Home Depot, Canadian Tire etc does not really carry stuff like that.
Why didn't you buy locking bearings instead of locking blocks?
I want this
Am in Gulu how do I get these parts
What about the blade?
Not seeing the link to any website?
OK Mister
Thanks for the info : Saves EVERYONE hours and & $ in research. what was your final optimal ratio for RPM blade speed
in relation to engine RPM ?
New videos coming soon on the mill
I heard somewhere, can't remember, a blade speed , how ever you get there, of 50 mph.
They clocked it with police radar.
Wow great job, would you make me one ? 😄
Send me the link for the sheaves please
Please update. Inflation has savaged this list.
With an 11 hp engine your blade should roll out around 3800 sfpm . With that being said I can look right at your set up and tell you that your blade speed is going to be about three as fast as you want/need it to be. My guess is that you needed three of the 18.75 pulleys not two. Don't take my word for it, do the calculations for your self on this site. vintagemachinery.org/math/sfpm.aspx
Also SFPM in relationship to HP are a general guideline in the sawmill world and can vary with max RPM of said engine. Most standard engines run at 3600 to 3800 RPM max. This is what I've found from other sawyers/builders.
10 HP = 3600 SFPM
11 HP = 3800 SFPM
12 HP = 4000 SFPM
14 HP = 4200 SFPM
16 HP =4400 SFPM
18 HP and up 4500 SFPM and the blade should never exceed this nor should it need to, if the gear ratios are correct it will cut with authority.
How do you make the 18.75 sheave run the blade on?
You put a v belt over the sheave.
how long a belt?
You said you were leaving a link to get parts I don’t see one?
Wheres the link for parts?
I looked up the sheave you listed at Surplus Center #1-BK190-E. The description said "Fractional HP". Does that mean it's rated to transmit only a fraction of one Horse Power?
Anybody? What does "fractional HP" mean? The price on those wheels is very attractive BUT I want to get a pair that won't break under load, or worse.
where did you get the sheaves for 17 dollars
ebay
I've had a hard time finding any that size or close to that size for less than 200 dollars
Red Poppy Ranch I’ve been looking at different places for the sheaves and they aren’t cheap. Almost every place wants at least $200 a piece for them. I’ll keep looking around
How fo you plan to have a band blade run in a V grove ? fill the grove with liquid rubber to support the band ? or machine one side off the V and make a flat surface ?
Just confused on the planing with the 18 in pully
I will but a v-belt on each pulley. This helps with traction and keeps it from metal on metal.
That sounds fine to fill the V area , there is a shoulder to hold the band on also , on pulleys on band saws , besides the guide wheels on the supports , worth your time to look at some expanded saw pulley pics . Great to see you do this build at such a lower cost .
Best regards John
Will do John!
@@RedPoppyRanch did you end up using a belt to fill it in. If so what one? Nearly done with my build just need to figure out that part
Gostaria que foce em português
Where can we put our order in for a custom made mill? lol
Do you have a drawing of your mill and all parts discripion that you would like to sell
Also interested in plans.
There is a saw already made that works real well as a sawmill. It need only be mounted in a carriage and placed on a track and trailer to mill logs with the diameter of 9" or less and as long as 12' - 6" or longer however length you desire to make it. I've worked hard all my life as a remodeling contractor and can appreciate the ingenuity and hard work these guys put into fabricating a sawmill of their dreams. But not me anymore, I'm burned out and saw a simpler way out and ran with it. Feel free to use my idea. It really works better than I thought. It is more compacted. lighter and very simple to maintain and needs only two saddles and an 90 degree angle saddle to hold the log. I just wish I'd thought of it 20 years ago. ruclips.net/video/Oq7fOd_O5yM/видео.html
DeWalt radial arm saws, models 770 and 790 are dual voltage 110/220 and are stout old workhorses with plenty of life left in them and people damn near give them away because they are heavy and heavy duty.
All parts list apload
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