The issue you're describing with the chains is that you weren't using a ripping chain at the start. Standard chains are cut at 25-30 degree angles which is too aggressive for milling. A ripping chain is cut at 10-15 degrees. A skip tooth ripping chain is the best way to go as it's not aggressive and the skip teeth allow enough space for chips to be properly discharged, allowing your saw to run at a higher constant rpm.
If you look up the parts distributor for Oregon Forestry in your area then you can contact the distributor directly. In Canada it's CPT and Theo Turgeon. @@uncleharley1
For my mill, so I didn't lose too much of the log, I made a "Ladder Frame" from Uni-Strut (From Menards) and then made Pointed Studs from 1/4"=20 Bolts - sharpened to a point. I lay the ladder frame on the log, with the sharpened bolts mounted on the ladder rungs, pointing down. I just tap them down with and axe or hammer and start milling. I lose around an inch of log on my first slab. Works pretty good and easy/fast to setup. I could draw this up if you, or others, have any interest/questions.
I thought of that style but is it fast to install and have it parallel to the center point of the log. I'm using the same dual rail system as Mr ringworm and it's very adaptable to non perfectly straight logs.
I'm also interested. I had a similar idea but this far only got as far as the ladder unistrut frame, which rests on some ply brackets. My clever plan to cut the unistrut down to make it easier to move the top cut bracket around backfired, since now it keeps trying to sag in the middle
That doesn’t mean you didn’t invent it, it just means you can’t take credit for it. Ecclesiastes 1:9 NIV What has been will be again, What has been done will be done again; there’s nothing new under the sun.
It was a bad idea. Bu the time hes done using the wrong saw he will want 5 times as much for a board as the lumber yard. With a portable mill Its alot of work. Sorry but you are better off finding the money for a mill.
I'm not sure why this video came up on my feed but it was absolutely facinating. I live on 10 acres in SC and I had not thought of using a chainsaw mill before. Now, many projects are very doable. Thanks!
This is truly the most heartwarming and genuine thing I've ever witnessed. Many people don't realize that before bureaucracy and regulations, it was simply about living within one's means. For young individuals just starting out, this often feels unattainable. However, what you’re doing offers hope, especially since many believe they will never be able to afford their own homes in this economy. You’re proving the skeptics wrong! Joseph - "Let the pessimists construct their lives on shaky foundations, while you continue to build yours strong and secure."
I just bought 10 acres (and the small Granberg log mill) in Washington state. I have had SO much fun out there. Working on a picnic table now. Finished my alder sawhorses about 5 days ago. I love your videos man. I think they helped me finally pull the trigger. Thank you, brother
My first video on your channel. I have a few words I would like to share with you that I imagine are not very typical, since log milling is not my usual haunt on YT. 1: I very much appreciate what I judge to be your sincere and honest wisdom you are sharing regarding your experience. Even the self deprecating remarks. Maybe even especially the self deprecating remarks. All too often people feel compelled to share their wisdom, as if it the acme of accumulated wisdom for their topic. While obviously falling far short of the target they were aiming at. Watching someone engage in such thorough and well said candor about their experience was enough to make me continue watching a video I typically have little interest in engaging with. 2: I also appreciate your willingness to just plant your ass in an area, and make the most out of what you have, the best way you can, with the tools and knowledge you have available to you. There is much to be said about not only an honest days work, but also for that very same work slowly pulling you towards enjoying the wine of satisfaction that the vineyard you are tending to has produced. It is a vanishing ethic. One which I very much miss being surrounded by. Good luck in your labors, man. I look forward to vicariously sharing in your successes and failures, as I plan on subscribing to your channel on those above merits alone. Thanks.
Once I got a job with a company that gave us free boots each year, and a co-worker suggested extra wide boots, even if they needed to be ordered instead of just bought at the store. Its a big help, comfortable right away. Also, we are required to have safety toe. One job I worked outdoors in the snow, and no matter how warm my legs and feet were, my toes were so cold they were in pain. I got a "composite" toe instead of steel, and they are awesome. Lighter than steel, and toes don't get cold anymore.
1st time here. I really enjoyed it. Finally, you suffered over a year before got it right, now you enjoy it. It reminds me of my baking habit. I started making our bread and some pastry years ago. Now I am able to bring good stuff out by any circumstances. If someone asked me how to do it right, I would say it is easy. You have to screw it up few hundred times, and you got it.😊
I provide for my wife and 3 children. My wife stays home with the kids so money is very thin. Our back porch is heavily used and I can’t afford lumber to replace our rotting deck. I want to say thank you for this. You helped a ton. God bless you.
If you follow your cuts with wedges every two to three feet, opposite sides behind the saw, your cuts will be pinch free and smoother. Chain is not the problem as long as it is a rip chain. A slight angle in the cut, like slicing cheese, works good too.
Oh man, you got me! This video ROCKS! I was really thinking I “need” a bandsaw mill for my projects but I am going to go this route. MANY THANKS for ALL that you shared!
@@dgodrummer8110 I'm done and it was a challenge. But I have it and it's air drying. Planning on making some flooring with it, cabinets, and a few for gun stock while I build flintlock rifles. The rest? Not sure what to do with it. I'll store it until I need it
Nice video Ryan, thanks! My approach to building a shower at the cabin was to make it a sauna. I set a pot of water on the sauna stove and while it is warming I can sit and enjoy the warmth of the sauna. Once the water has reached the temperature I want I pour it in a pump-up garden sprayer and use that to shower. (The pump sprayer has never been used for chemicals. It also has a longer hose and a spray nozzle that is better suited to showering than the wand-nozzle it came with.)
Sauna is a great way. They don't need to be complicated at all. I use the saunas built by my great-grandfathers in Michigan. I prefer them in the winter over summer. They're a hundred years old. If you build a two-room building, then you have a nice changing room not as hot as the bathing room.
I stumbled on this channel while searching on building atv bridges. So I first watched episode #39. I normally make my atv bridges out of regular lumber so this methodology got me interested enough to look into your channel. I must say after one week of binge watching all of your content, I finally got through all of your episodes. I look forward to watching your new content as you continue to produce it.
I'm really impressed with your thought process and how you've over come your mistakes. They seem to not bother you, just motivates you into doing it another, and probably a better way. Kudos to you for taking on something that many many people would not even consider. I also agree with you about the high cost of lumber, it's ridiculous. Enjoy your videos very much my friend. Steve
Great video. I’ve done a little bit of milling on a homemade chainsaw mill… what helped me a lot was gravity. One side of the log is always 6-12” lower than the other. Thanks for the tips.
I've been teetering back and forth on chainsaw mill vs bandsaw mill. After this video, I think I'll save myself some money and go with the chainsaw mill. Cheaper start-up and I can always get a bandsaw if I REALLY like it. Really enjoy this channel - keep up the great work!
I did just this about 2 years ago. Just went to a full on bandmill from frontier/norwood. Its hard on saws and is very time consuming to use a chainsaw
For someone who is milling on the occasion, I can attest to how handy and convenient it is to be able to chainsaw mill. I only have experience in freehand chainsaw milling (I just spend the time to plane my work) but my goodness, what a total blast! Nothing beats the ability of being able to mill basically anywhere on the fly. Run a milling chain if your worried about the load on your saws. Don't listen to what everyone says about what you can and can't do with your saw. Someone told me my saw (ms 261) wouldn't be good to slab out logs. Here I am a year and some odd into my saw ownership, running it as I intend to use it since day one. Havnt had ONE issue. Not even so much as a thrown chain. Nothing. And I've milled quite the collection of slabs!
Bad ass! I owned two Lucas mills for about 20 years. Sold them to a neighbor. Just felled a 40” DBH sugar pine and I May end up blowing the dust off of and using the Alaska mill for the first time in many years. Good inspiration from you.
This is the first video I've seen from you. Extremely informative, straight to the point w/ no BS. I really appreciate the time you spent on this video, I learned some invaluable info. Subbed, greetings from Germany 🇩🇪 👍 🍻
Same as the other two. Want a bandsaw mill, but may try this first. I have oak. Saw another video where two guys used what looked like an aluminum ladder for their bars. Were doing long lengths, wide cuts, 48 inch chain bar. They didn't give any how to's. Yours....very informative. Thanks. Subscribed.
For cleaning your chains if you are where power isn’t a problem you can get an old computer fan ( usually about 6” x6” and high speed ) break a piece of one of the blades off and attach it to any container ( an old style metal coffee can is what I use ) fill it with whatever solvent you want put your chain in it and turn it on over night. The vibration will help more than you would think. I’ve never tried it with chains but I used to work on industrial printers and I worked great with ink and those little fans are a dime a dozen. People get tired of their computers microwaves or whatever and throw them in the dump. I appreciate your tutorial I’m looking around at mills right now and that was very helpful. You have a blessed day
Running a stihl ms661c-m on a 36" Granburg mill and bar....square ground full skip chain and it blows through oak. Always enjoy the videos worm...we live similar lives
I really like your chainsaw milling setup. It does the job, you enjoy doing it, what would be a problem. Thanks for going over all of it. Lots of questions answered. Thumbs Up!
I don’t know how I ever came across this video, but I’m sure glad I did. What a great video. So glad you decided to just ramble on instead of just giving the specs of making this mill. There’s a lot of knowledge packed into it! I’m definitely a follower now! 😊
First time viewer, therefore I’M GLAD you demonstrated using the winch👏👏👍. Also, my first time reviewing a chainsaw mill, and was extremely impressed with all the information, filming, editing, etc. you put into it. I am an instant fan and have to check your other videos.👍👍👍
The quality of your video has been enhanced by candor, experienced knowledge, and artistic patience, covering the full spectrum of possibilities; such as proper chain maintenance. Thank you!❤
i love your shows. you crack me up and i learn stuff from every show. ive been living in the Au Sable State Forest for 26 years in a trailer but now i have so many ash trees on the ground it would be a crime not to start making lumber. thanx fer the help.
Great job of explaining the details that a no experience guy like me would need to know. Wisdom born of pain. We'll done. Good luck. Have a great life out there!
If anybody is wondering, I mill a lot of hardwood (oak and maple mostly) and started out with just about the same setup. A 50cc saw will get the job done, but it really isn't enough saw. I recently upgraded to a 98cc pro saw (more than I'll ever need and not just for milling) and it mills hardwood so much better. Every couple boards I touch the chain up with a file and I can mill 2-3 times more wood in half the time
Daniel, I hate it when people use oak for firewood!!! They take so long to grow. My belief is to make something lasting out of them if they are cut....... However, sometimes they do need to come down. Whether they are about to fall on someones house or trees do fall on their own so cutting is fine. But again, at least make something of value rather than using it for firewood!
I realize your 'extreme' is conditional.- you've shown me not to sweat the 'rules' building wise.. cough - cough / the beauty & simplicity is realizing an idea ! I commend you Ryan ! When I see an individual build it enjoins my nature !! God Bless & no one's coming ! ❤
Thank you. This is one of the best best RUclips videos I've ever watched. This was like a Master Level Course on chainsaw milling. I really feel like I learned a lot and will avoid a lot of trial and error once I purchase a mill. Now I will go back and watch your other videos. Keep up the good work.
It’s guys like you!!🙏💪 Keen observation, never having had an original thought. It’s all good. No one has had one, because they originate from somewhere other than ourselves. Hope you got your setup going. Michigan is a beautiful place with wonderful people. Cheers!!
First of your video's I've ever watched. I think that because your not a 'semi-professional' it's much better explanation than normal where you expect people to know some stuff. I have some oak that was blown down during Hurricane Ian last year, your explanation is more than good enough for me to make something to mill it with a 20" chainsaw when the weather cools down ('it's 95 but will feel like 110, sometimes you just want to slap the weatherman in his AC cooled studio) Thank you very much
First time i watched your channel. I like the chainsaw mill. I been thinking about one for a little while now. Got trees down in the yard. Hate to waste them. And like you i do not want to pay those prices. I have not been watching you forever but i will watch your channel now. Keep up the good work
With a new pup coming soon, you will want to insulate the floor for them. Erik Grankvist used nothing but his wood shavings and sawdust for his floor. Decent R value and its F - R Double EE. You are making tons of sawdust. Your pup will thank you if you use it to keep their tush warm 🐶
I copied your rail and bracket setup a while back. Worked great. I did make a wider set of plates to use when milling some 30” diameter oak. 36” Granberg mill and a Holzfforma 660 pro saw with 36” bar. I think the pate and rail setup can’t be beat for heavy duty and speed of setup.
Thanks for the effort and tons of information, Ryan. My first search to alaskan chainsaw mill and you appeared. Your videos are so easy going and nicely unexcited😀Thanks from Southern-Germany to the Michigan forests
I’ll definitely have to come back to this in spring. I despise working in the cold like you. Have yet to add a winch and am using the biggest cheapest Chinese chainsaw I could afford. Definitely takes alot of time but appreciate your tips here. So thanks. This is what we are here for
Dude fantastic video, new subscriber. We've just recently sold our house & bought rural wooded property in SE Missouri, currently living in a tent while waiting for our steel building to get put up which will serve as shop & living space while planing our house build. I like you hate spending the jacked up prices for materials to build so this was helpful. The youtube algorithm placed this in my feed, wasn't searching for it but was thinking about it so go figure.
I thought it was cool that you took the time to explain the wench. I assumed it was for times of fatigue but I was not sure. I am sure most of your subscribers would know, but as a first time viewer I am glad that you mentioned it. I feel that is something to think about in future videos. Cheers.
As below - my first video. I guess I have run saws for 58 yrs. My first - a 1948 Homelite. I watched the wood,, ribbons - and chips - that told me how the chain worked. As an adult - I spent my money on chains. And I have hand filed for all my years. Once I see a change in the chips - ribbons - i change chains. The few minutes I lose, I make up for in fast chain travel. Cheers!
This is the first video of yours I've seen and it was great! I'm just purchasing my first chainsaw mill and the information and tips you provided were awesome. Thanks for making these videos, cheers and be safe bro!
Excellent video. I've been milling for about 11 years, always used an extension ladder for the initial cut. Been looking at this setup with the plates for a while now. I think you just sold me on that idea. Thanks buddy. You covered a lot of good points on milling in this video. Things I also found out through trial and error. It sure is fun though. MS 460, 32" bar, Alaskan Mark III.
@19:20 :) The honesty and timid ego feeling, was gut splitting for me:) Excellent content, thank you for all the effort!! Cheers from Swan Creek, Toledo~
Wow, very informative. I have a log that I want to mill and didn't know how I would start the first cut. I've never milled before so I was scratching my head. I too have 95% cedar on my 10 acre property here in Texas. I want to cut out some beams for decorative purposes for a cabin I'm building. I like your setup and appreciate your tips. Thanks!
Like your chainsaw mill. I can see how satisfying it would be running it all day. Plus the beautiful boards are perfect for all sorts of projects. Keep your chain sharp and some wedges handy and just cut cut cut baby. Thanks for a great video. Be safe out there. It only takes i second of day dreaming and bang your cut. Be safe and pay attention to your work and surroundings.
Great information. I have my Chainsaw mill equipment coming and I was just planning to use an extension ladder as my guide for the first cut, however After seeing this I will replicate your setup instead. Thank you!
Received my portable mill today, really look forward to cutting tomorrow. Reason is walked out of Hom D and cha ching$$$ Also new hobby making cutting boards, hatchet handles, list goes on. Love your videos, keep em coming.
I'm a complete noob, about to embark on using trees to build furniture and ultimately a log structure. Feeling overwhelmed yet inspired after watching your video. NEW SUBSCRIBER 🎉
Dont know who the other John OLDONEKANOLE is but not me . What a great explanation on why you use a chainsaw mill . You are a good speaker and your vids are fantastic. Very much fun to watch . You are a very good problem solver . Keep living the dream as long as you can. Thank you for sharing your dream and stay safe .
Well worth it! What an amazing set up, this is the first time I have watched your channel. Very impressive! Loved all the details you covered. Great job
You know for a larger log you can make one cut, roll the log 180, make another bark side cut, Then mill much larger logs with a much smaller length bar, and have some very wide finish sides boards. Incidentally I did really love your plate on each end, making me a couple today. Been using a modified ladder but your plates will be a game changer for me. Also the tip on ripping chain is great also, going to call and order that as soon as they get back from "Holiday " break. I'm cutting Florida red Cedar, somewhat harder than the northern woods, but still smells just as nice. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for going in depth on this. I've had my mill for a while now and haven't used it. I would have made a few mistakes right away had I not watched this, thank you.
I emulated your set up with some minor variations and can tell you it's kickass! I bought full 20' sticks of square stock and cut it at 8-12... ive fabricated an internal bar to mate them for long slabbing... helps reduce flex too! Thabk you!
Make you a drip oiler for your bar on the mill you can use a pop bottle with a length 1/4' hose and a needle for pumping a football up for the tip to direct it right on your chain will help alot with chain and bar life you can use used motor oil for it when it's cold out
22:08 "5 days in a row, 10 hours a day, and I'm still happy" using a chainsaw mill. The forest thanks you for not tearing it up with roads and heavy equipment. God bless you sir (standing ovation)
Great video! Built this same setup a few years ago and have milled lots of walnut. Used some surplus 1-7/8" strut for the bars and tilted my log table to make it a little easer cutting. PS. My old 1980 Homelite XL12 just keeps going.
very good video...I have been milling for about a year and experienced most of the issues you mentioned, but I will never quit milling I totally enjoyn the process. I also finally concluded that most of the failures are due to chain issues. Unfortunately my STIHL mechanic wasnt familiar with milling angles on the chain or them correct chain to use....I think I have worked that out. also bought some Granberg chains. anyway, I dont watch many videos to the end but I did yours
This video worked for me because it covered most general questions I had. I can figure out the details, or have my own way of doing things based on what I have at hand etc. I prefer quick overview, with any big gotchyas pointed out. I’ve been eyeing one of these setups for a while, and had always thought I would fabricate it, but have had good success with the stihl saw, so why not use the mill. Thanks for the vid, it gave me enough info., to make a board.
Just milled about 70 slabs with 24"' - 32" logs. In the last 3 years ive probably milled around 250 slabs. I use a ladder with the same basic ends made out of plywood. . Ladder is so easy because each rail is connected so its so fast to set up. I use straps with 3 inch screws that fasten the ladder to log but they are mostly at each end of the log. I use a 661 sthil with a 32-42 inch bar , depending on the type of wood being milled. I dont have the luxury of having the log sit on a platform. I have to mill it on the ground. The smell of exhaust and sawdust isnt so fun but I like doing it so much I dont care. Next saw will be the sthil 881. Nothing like getting my mill on a beautiful knot free 36" log. I dont care what species it is. I do stay away from Oak and Eucalyptus though.
Enjoyed your video you are a good teacher anticipating questions folks would have. One of your commentors was talking about using saw chips as insulation. I wouldnt recommend that die to moisture and bug problems it's organic and would want to rot taking with it any wood in contact with it. I saw a guy on u tube who used reflective bubble wrap stapled to the underside of his floor. I think he's in a cabin in Maine. He was very happy with the result.
I have the same saw and I'm going to attempt to make some lumber myself. With your videos I ain't scared :) Thank you for all the invaluable information
The issue you're describing with the chains is that you weren't using a ripping chain at the start. Standard chains are cut at 25-30 degree angles which is too aggressive for milling. A ripping chain is cut at 10-15 degrees. A skip tooth ripping chain is the best way to go as it's not aggressive and the skip teeth allow enough space for chips to be properly discharged, allowing your saw to run at a higher constant rpm.
I was just going to add the same comment. Lots of people don't understand the difference between cross-cut and rip-cut.
@@wxfield Thank you both. I've never heard of the difference!
On my 038, I run double skip ripping chain.
Where do you get your skip tooth rip chains
If you look up the parts distributor for Oregon Forestry in your area then you can contact the distributor directly. In Canada it's CPT and Theo Turgeon. @@uncleharley1
For my mill, so I didn't lose too much of the log, I made a "Ladder Frame" from Uni-Strut (From Menards) and then made Pointed Studs from 1/4"=20 Bolts - sharpened to a point. I lay the ladder frame on the log, with the sharpened bolts mounted on the ladder rungs, pointing down. I just tap them down with and axe or hammer and start milling. I lose around an inch of log on my first slab. Works pretty good and easy/fast to setup. I could draw this up if you, or others, have any interest/questions.
Me too
I thought of that style but is it fast to install and have it parallel to the center point of the log. I'm using the same dual rail system as Mr ringworm and it's very adaptable to non perfectly straight logs.
Pics?
I'm also interested. I had a similar idea but this far only got as far as the ladder unistrut frame, which rests on some ply brackets. My clever plan to cut the unistrut down to make it easier to move the top cut bracket around backfired, since now it keeps trying to sag in the middle
That sounds pretty cool
I'm 70 years old and every time I thought I had a IDEA someone else already had been there and done that.
That doesn’t mean you didn’t invent it, it just means you can’t take credit for it.
Ecclesiastes 1:9 NIV
What has been will be again, What has been done will be done again; there’s nothing new under the sun.
why is that.
Me to.??
@@c50geno
It was a bad idea. Bu the time hes done using the wrong saw he will want 5 times as much for a board as the lumber yard. With a portable mill Its alot of work. Sorry but you are better off finding the money for a mill.
Milling yourself saves you a ton of $$$. Dude your lucky most of us can't do that or have the resources. Thank you for the content.
One of the better milling setup presentation I’ve seen and not over complicated. Thank you.
I'm not sure why this video came up on my feed but it was absolutely facinating. I live on 10 acres in SC and I had not thought of using a chainsaw mill before. Now, many projects are very doable. Thanks!
This is truly the most heartwarming and genuine thing I've ever witnessed. Many people don't realize that before bureaucracy and regulations, it was simply about living within one's means. For young individuals just starting out, this often feels unattainable. However, what you’re doing offers hope, especially since many believe they will never be able to afford their own homes in this economy. You’re proving the skeptics wrong!
Joseph - "Let the pessimists construct their lives on shaky foundations, while you continue to build yours strong and secure."
I just bought 10 acres (and the small Granberg log mill) in Washington state. I have had SO much fun out there. Working on a picnic table now. Finished my alder sawhorses about 5 days ago. I love your videos man. I think they helped me finally pull the trigger. Thank you, brother
I just bought a chainsaw, but Ringworm is definitely an inspiration. Right now, it's for firewood, but this is very interesting too.
@Daniel Nelson Western Washington, South Puget Sound. How much for the Woodmizer? : )
The "I don't think I've had an original thought in my life" just earned you a sub. I like your flow, will be great to see more of your episodes.
My first video on your channel. I have a few words I would like to share with you that I imagine are not very typical, since log milling is not my usual haunt on YT.
1: I very much appreciate what I judge to be your sincere and honest wisdom you are sharing regarding your experience. Even the self deprecating remarks. Maybe even especially the self deprecating remarks. All too often people feel compelled to share their wisdom, as if it the acme of accumulated wisdom for their topic. While obviously falling far short of the target they were aiming at. Watching someone engage in such thorough and well said candor about their experience was enough to make me continue watching a video I typically have little interest in engaging with.
2: I also appreciate your willingness to just plant your ass in an area, and make the most out of what you have, the best way you can, with the tools and knowledge you have available to you. There is much to be said about not only an honest days work, but also for that very same work slowly pulling you towards enjoying the wine of satisfaction that the vineyard you are tending to has produced. It is a vanishing ethic. One which I very much miss being surrounded by.
Good luck in your labors, man. I look forward to vicariously sharing in your successes and failures, as I plan on subscribing to your channel on those above merits alone. Thanks.
My first video too, and I don't want t throw away trees I am cuttingdown to then go buy wood to build, so this video is golden to me....
Once I got a job with a company that gave us free boots each year, and a co-worker suggested extra wide boots, even if they needed to be ordered instead of just bought at the store. Its a big help, comfortable right away. Also, we are required to have safety toe. One job I worked outdoors in the snow, and no matter how warm my legs and feet were, my toes were so cold they were in pain. I got a "composite" toe instead of steel, and they are awesome. Lighter than steel, and toes don't get cold anymore.
1st time here. I really enjoyed it.
Finally, you suffered over a year before got it right, now you enjoy it.
It reminds me of my baking habit. I started making our bread and some pastry years ago. Now I am able to bring good stuff out by any circumstances. If someone asked me how to do it right, I would say it is easy. You have to screw it up few hundred times, and you got it.😊
I provide for my wife and 3 children. My wife stays home with the kids so money is very thin. Our back porch is heavily used and I can’t afford lumber to replace our rotting deck. I want to say thank you for this. You helped a ton. God bless you.
I used to think you were nuts but now I realize your true genius
knocked out my first three boards today using this setup, thanks for the inspo
If you follow your cuts with wedges every two to three feet, opposite sides behind the saw, your cuts will be pinch free and smoother. Chain is not the problem as long as it is a rip chain. A slight angle in the cut, like slicing cheese, works good too.
Oh man, you got me! This video ROCKS!
I was really thinking I “need” a bandsaw mill for my projects but I am going to go this route. MANY THANKS for ALL that you shared!
I thought about a band mill too. Until like he said how do I move the logs to the mill. I was only doing logs on my property that's not even an acre.
@@dgodrummer8110 You type a lot.
spending 10,000 for a band mill isn't so smart for 800 board feet of cherry.
@@dgodrummer8110 I'm done and it was a challenge. But I have it and it's air drying. Planning on making some flooring with it, cabinets, and a few for gun stock while I build flintlock rifles.
The rest? Not sure what to do with it. I'll store it until I need it
Right tools for the right job. Great class!
Nice video Ryan, thanks! My approach to building a shower at the cabin was to make it a sauna. I set a pot of water on the sauna stove and while it is warming I can sit and enjoy the warmth of the sauna. Once the water has reached the temperature I want I pour it in a pump-up garden sprayer and use that to shower. (The pump sprayer has never been used for chemicals. It also has a longer hose and a spray nozzle that is better suited to showering than the wand-nozzle it came with.)
Thx for your tip😊
Sauna is a great way. They don't need to be complicated at all. I use the saunas built by my great-grandfathers in Michigan. I prefer them in the winter over summer. They're a hundred years old. If you build a two-room building, then you have a nice changing room not as hot as the bathing room.
I stumbled on this channel while searching on building atv bridges. So I first watched episode #39. I normally make my atv bridges out of regular lumber so this methodology got me interested enough to look into your channel. I must say after one week of binge watching all of your content, I finally got through all of your episodes. I look forward to watching your new content as you continue to produce it.
One more f , if not the best video you've done. Immensely enjoyable and you've answered a lot of the questions I've had about chainsaw milling.
Algorithm brought me here. This is a satisfying thing to watch. With all the fir trees we have, this would be awesome to have.
I'm really impressed with your thought process and how you've over come your mistakes. They seem to not bother you, just motivates you into doing it another, and probably a better way. Kudos to you for taking on something that many many people would not even consider. I also agree with you about the high cost of lumber, it's ridiculous. Enjoy your videos very much my friend. Steve
I almost never leave comments, but this is an excellent video. I am going to have to re watch this a few times to get my own mill going. Great job!
Great video. I’ve done a little bit of milling on a homemade chainsaw mill… what helped me a lot was gravity. One side of the log is always 6-12” lower than the other. Thanks for the tips.
appreciate your natural humility...
I've been teetering back and forth on chainsaw mill vs bandsaw mill. After this video, I think I'll save myself some money and go with the chainsaw mill. Cheaper start-up and I can always get a bandsaw if I REALLY like it. Really enjoy this channel - keep up the great work!
I did just this about 2 years ago. Just went to a full on bandmill from frontier/norwood. Its hard on saws and is very time consuming to use a chainsaw
For someone who is milling on the occasion, I can attest to how handy and convenient it is to be able to chainsaw mill. I only have experience in freehand chainsaw milling (I just spend the time to plane my work) but my goodness, what a total blast!
Nothing beats the ability of being able to mill basically anywhere on the fly.
Run a milling chain if your worried about the load on your saws.
Don't listen to what everyone says about what you can and can't do with your saw. Someone told me my saw (ms 261) wouldn't be good to slab out logs.
Here I am a year and some odd into my saw ownership, running it as I intend to use it since day one. Havnt had ONE issue. Not even so much as a thrown chain. Nothing. And I've milled quite the collection of slabs!
Bad ass!
I owned two Lucas mills for about 20 years.
Sold them to a neighbor.
Just felled a 40” DBH sugar pine and I May end up blowing the dust off of and using the Alaska mill for the first time in many years.
Good inspiration from you.
So much good info in this vid. I've run into all of these issues milling & this vid can really assist anyone looking to do so.
Used to mill logs for my gold mine back in 2006-2010 I miss those days. Doug firs where my main trees and loved every minute of it.
This is the first video I've seen from you. Extremely informative, straight to the point w/ no BS. I really appreciate the time you spent on this video, I learned some invaluable info. Subbed, greetings from Germany 🇩🇪 👍 🍻
Same as the other two. Want a bandsaw mill, but may try this first. I have oak. Saw another video where two guys used what looked like an aluminum ladder for their bars. Were doing long lengths, wide cuts, 48 inch chain bar. They didn't give any how to's. Yours....very informative.
Thanks. Subscribed.
Hands down the best video I've watched on chainsaw milling. Thank you!
For cleaning your chains if you are where power isn’t a problem you can get an old computer fan ( usually about 6” x6” and high speed ) break a piece of one of the blades off and attach it to any container ( an old style metal coffee can is what I use ) fill it with whatever solvent you want put your chain in it and turn it on over night. The vibration will help more than you would think. I’ve never tried it with chains but I used to work on industrial printers and I worked great with ink and those little fans are a dime a dozen. People get tired of their computers microwaves or whatever and throw them in the dump. I appreciate your tutorial I’m looking around at mills right now and that was very helpful. You have a blessed day
Those plates you made. You need to market that idea. Those are amazingly useful. The best milling endplates I've seen, for sure
Running a stihl ms661c-m on a 36" Granburg mill and bar....square ground full skip chain and it blows through oak. Always enjoy the videos worm...we live similar lives
I really like your chainsaw milling setup. It does the job, you enjoy doing it, what would be a problem. Thanks for going over all of it. Lots of questions answered. Thumbs Up!
I don’t know how I ever came across this video, but I’m sure glad I did. What a great video. So glad you decided to just ramble on instead of just giving the specs of making this mill. There’s a lot of knowledge packed into it! I’m definitely a follower now! 😊
First time viewer, therefore I’M GLAD you demonstrated using the winch👏👏👍.
Also, my first time reviewing a chainsaw mill, and was extremely impressed with all the information, filming, editing, etc. you put into it. I am an instant fan and have to check your other videos.👍👍👍
The quality of your video has been enhanced by candor, experienced knowledge, and artistic patience, covering the full spectrum of possibilities; such as proper chain maintenance. Thank you!❤
I like this guy’s dry humor. 😆👌🏼
i love your shows. you crack me up and i learn stuff from every show. ive been living in the Au Sable State Forest for 26 years in a trailer but now i have so many ash trees on the ground it would be a crime not to start making lumber. thanx fer the help.
Great job of explaining the details that a no experience guy like me would need to know. Wisdom born of pain. We'll done. Good luck. Have a great life out there!
If anybody is wondering, I mill a lot of hardwood (oak and maple mostly) and started out with just about the same setup. A 50cc saw will get the job done, but it really isn't enough saw. I recently upgraded to a 98cc pro saw (more than I'll ever need and not just for milling) and it mills hardwood so much better. Every couple boards I touch the chain up with a file and I can mill 2-3 times more wood in half the time
What saw did you get?
Daniel, I hate it when people use oak for firewood!!!
They take so long to grow. My belief is to make something lasting out of them if they are cut.......
However, sometimes they do need to come down. Whether they are about to fall on someones house or trees do fall on their own so cutting is fine.
But again, at least make something of value rather than using it for firewood!
I’ve been watching for years now and I really don’t understand why your only at 43k subs. Great entertainment, keep it up.
When's the outdoor kitchen gonna be ready...got a bus load of peeps wanna see your work !!
I realize your 'extreme' is conditional.- you've shown me not to sweat the 'rules' building wise.. cough - cough / the beauty & simplicity is realizing an idea ! I commend you Ryan ! When I see an individual build it enjoins my nature !! God Bless & no one's coming ! ❤
Thank you. This is one of the best best RUclips videos I've ever watched. This was like a Master Level Course on chainsaw milling. I really feel like I learned a lot and will avoid a lot of trial and error once I purchase a mill. Now I will go back and watch your other videos. Keep up the good work.
Same...
That's some nice lumber right there, and all cut with a chainsaw. Bravo.
It’s guys like you!!🙏💪 Keen observation, never having had an original thought. It’s all good. No one has had one, because they originate from somewhere other than ourselves. Hope you got your setup going. Michigan is a beautiful place with wonderful people. Cheers!!
First of your video's I've ever watched.
I think that because your not a 'semi-professional' it's much better explanation than normal where you expect people to know some stuff.
I have some oak that was blown down during Hurricane Ian last year, your explanation is more than good enough for me to make something to mill it with a 20" chainsaw when the weather cools down ('it's 95 but will feel like 110, sometimes you just want to slap the weatherman in his AC cooled studio)
Thank you very much
Impressive simplicity of less is way more!
Diy milling makes more sense than now than ever, cedar has got to be a very user friendly wood. Good setup.
First time i watched your channel. I like the chainsaw mill. I been thinking about one for a little while now. Got trees down in the yard. Hate to waste them. And like you i do not want to pay those prices. I have not been watching you forever but i will watch your channel now. Keep up the good work
With a new pup coming soon, you will want to insulate the floor for them. Erik Grankvist used nothing but his wood shavings and sawdust for his floor. Decent R value and its F - R Double EE. You are making tons of sawdust. Your pup will thank you if you use it to keep their tush warm 🐶
I copied your rail and bracket setup a while back. Worked great. I did make a wider set of plates to use when milling some 30” diameter oak. 36” Granberg mill and a Holzfforma 660 pro saw with 36” bar. I think the pate and rail setup can’t be beat for heavy duty and speed of setup.
Thanks for the effort and tons of information, Ryan. My first search to alaskan chainsaw mill and you appeared. Your videos are so easy going and nicely unexcited😀Thanks from Southern-Germany to the Michigan forests
I’ll definitely have to come back to this in spring. I despise working in the cold like you. Have yet to add a winch and am using the biggest cheapest Chinese chainsaw I could afford. Definitely takes alot of time but appreciate your tips here. So thanks. This is what we are here for
I love the cold, colder the better. More work done in 8 hrs at 0° , then 12 at 80°!!!
Dude fantastic video, new subscriber. We've just recently sold our house & bought rural wooded property in SE Missouri, currently living in a tent while waiting for our steel building to get put up which will serve as shop & living space while planing our house build. I like you hate spending the jacked up prices for materials to build so this was helpful. The youtube algorithm placed this in my feed, wasn't searching for it but was thinking about it so go figure.
Such a useful video. I'm a forestry student at Michigan Tech and was surprised to hear you mention that you're in Michigan!
Great Video and great presentation. No frills, just the facts. Thank you. Looking forward to more quality content like this.
I thought it was cool that you took the time to explain the wench. I assumed it was for times of fatigue but I was not sure. I am sure most of your subscribers would know, but as a first time viewer I am glad that you mentioned it. I feel that is something to think about in future videos. Cheers.
As below - my first video. I guess I have run saws for 58 yrs. My first - a 1948 Homelite. I watched the wood,, ribbons - and chips - that told me how the chain worked. As an adult - I spent my money on chains. And I have hand filed for all my years. Once I see a change in the chips - ribbons - i change chains. The few minutes I lose, I make up for in fast chain travel. Cheers!
"I never had an original thought in my life" 🤣 Subscribed right there and I dont even own a chainsaw.
Great video. Great channel. Gotta say, you are a natural in front of the camera and a stellar editor.
This is the first video of yours I've seen and it was great! I'm just purchasing my first chainsaw mill and the information and tips you provided were awesome. Thanks for making these videos, cheers and be safe bro!
Excellent video. I've been milling for about 11 years, always used an extension ladder for the initial cut. Been looking at this setup with the plates for a while now. I think you just sold me on that idea. Thanks buddy. You covered a lot of good points on milling in this video. Things I also found out through trial and error. It sure is fun though. MS 460, 32" bar, Alaskan Mark III.
@19:20
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The honesty and timid ego feeling, was gut splitting for me:)
Excellent content, thank you for all the effort!!
Cheers from Swan Creek, Toledo~
Wow, very informative. I have a log that I want to mill and didn't know how I would start the first cut. I've never milled before so I was scratching my head. I too have 95% cedar on my 10 acre property here in Texas. I want to cut out some beams for decorative purposes for a cabin I'm building. I like your setup and appreciate your tips. Thanks!
Loving every minute of your milling videos. For myself I need to see the links to the tools you use please. Thanks and happy milling.
Like your chainsaw mill. I can see how satisfying it would be running it all day. Plus the beautiful boards are perfect for all sorts of projects. Keep your chain sharp and some wedges handy and just cut cut cut baby. Thanks for a great video. Be safe out there. It only takes i second of day dreaming and bang your cut. Be safe and pay attention to your work and surroundings.
Great information. I have my Chainsaw mill equipment coming and I was just planning to use an extension ladder as my guide for the first cut, however After seeing this I will replicate your setup instead. Thank you!
You do a really nice job explaining everything. You have a gift for it 👍
Received my portable mill today, really look forward to cutting tomorrow. Reason is walked out of Hom D and cha ching$$$ Also new hobby making cutting boards, hatchet handles, list goes on. Love your videos, keep em coming.
I'm a complete noob, about to embark on using trees to build furniture and ultimately a log structure. Feeling overwhelmed yet inspired after watching your video. NEW SUBSCRIBER 🎉
Dont know who the other John OLDONEKANOLE is but not me . What a great explanation on why you use a chainsaw mill . You are a good speaker and your vids are fantastic. Very much fun to watch . You are a very good problem solver . Keep living the dream as long as you can. Thank you for sharing your dream and stay safe .
Subbed to both of you off the value of this one video alone! (Not really, been binging the content) This is pure gold.
I just found your channel. First video I've watched. I'm glad you demonstrated the use of your winch come-along. Thank you for sharing!
excellent sound quality on your video. And Thank you for not playing music in the background.
Great informational video.
Well worth it! What an amazing set up, this is the first time I have watched your channel. Very impressive! Loved all the details you covered. Great job
Thanks for taking the time to document your process, very much appreciated.
You know for a larger log you can make one cut, roll the log 180, make another bark side cut, Then mill much larger logs with a much smaller length bar, and have some very wide finish sides boards.
Incidentally I did really love your plate on each end, making me a couple today. Been using a modified ladder but your plates will be a game changer for me. Also the tip on ripping chain is great also, going to call and order that as soon as they get back from "Holiday " break. I'm cutting Florida red Cedar, somewhat harder than the northern woods, but still smells just as nice. Keep up the great work!
self taught tradeschool sharings.
priceless.
Love watching a sharp chain cut through any log.
Thank you for going in depth on this. I've had my mill for a while now and haven't used it. I would have made a few mistakes right away had I not watched this, thank you.
Great video, I learn something every time...had not thought about soaking and cleaning sap from the chain, I will be doing that now.
Add Kosher salt to the alcohol and shake! Works great.
Great tutorial on the hows and whys of your mill setup, Thanx for sharing. You answered questions I didn't even have!!! Stay safe.
Build an outdoor shower.....in the middle of the woods..... LOL You can do anything!! Nice Work!!
Thanks for detailing out the centering and chain type and sharpening method. Super helpful
I emulated your set up with some minor variations and can tell you it's kickass! I bought full 20' sticks of square stock and cut it at 8-12... ive fabricated an internal bar to mate them for long slabbing... helps reduce flex too! Thabk you!
Make you a drip oiler for your bar on the mill you can use a pop bottle with a length 1/4' hose and a needle for pumping a football up for the tip to direct it right on your chain will help alot with chain and bar life you can use used motor oil for it when it's cold out
22:08 "5 days in a row, 10 hours a day, and I'm still happy" using a chainsaw mill. The forest thanks you for not tearing it up with roads and heavy equipment. God bless you sir (standing ovation)
Excellent rundown of your setup. You did a good job of explaining this in full layman's terms. I'm gonna try. Thanks again!
Great video! Built this same setup a few years ago and have milled lots of walnut. Used some surplus 1-7/8" strut for the bars and tilted my log table to make it a little easer cutting.
PS. My old 1980 Homelite XL12 just keeps going.
very good video...I have been milling for about a year and experienced most of the issues you mentioned, but I will never quit milling I totally enjoyn the process. I also finally concluded that most of the failures are due to chain issues. Unfortunately my STIHL mechanic wasnt familiar with milling angles on the chain or them correct chain to use....I think I have worked that out. also bought some Granberg chains. anyway, I dont watch many videos to the end but I did yours
This video worked for me because it covered most general questions I had. I can figure out the details, or have my own way of doing things based on what I have at hand etc. I prefer quick overview, with any big gotchyas pointed out.
I’ve been eyeing one of these setups for a while, and had always thought I would fabricate it, but have had good success with the stihl saw, so why not use the mill. Thanks for the vid, it gave me enough info., to make a board.
I remodel cabins and this setup would be perfect. Thanks for the info and expertise
ringworm and coffee. perfect start to sat. morning
Just milled about 70 slabs with 24"' - 32" logs. In the last 3 years ive probably milled around 250 slabs. I use a ladder with the same basic ends made out of plywood. . Ladder is so easy because each rail is connected so its so fast to set up. I use straps with 3 inch screws that fasten the ladder to log but they are mostly at each end of the log. I use a 661 sthil with a 32-42 inch bar , depending on the type of wood being milled. I dont have the luxury of having the log sit on a platform. I have to mill it on the ground. The smell of exhaust and sawdust isnt so fun but I like doing it so much I dont care. Next saw will be the sthil 881. Nothing like getting my mill on a beautiful knot free 36" log. I dont care what species it is. I do stay away from Oak and Eucalyptus though.
Why do you stay away from oak? Too hard or smell?
Enjoyed your video you are a good teacher anticipating questions folks would have. One of your commentors was talking about using saw chips as insulation. I wouldnt recommend that die to moisture and bug problems it's organic and would want to rot taking with it any wood in contact with it. I saw a guy on u tube who used reflective bubble wrap stapled to the underside of his floor. I think he's in a cabin in Maine. He was very happy with the result.
I have the same saw and I'm going to attempt to make some lumber myself. With your videos I ain't scared :) Thank you for all the invaluable information
Thanks 🙏 you’re a great guy helping others .