Eamon Devalera: The Controversial Irish Leader You Should Know

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2020
  • Irish war of independence, Republic of Ireland and the struggles Irish people went through...We get to see a quick look at all of those in this short animation...
    you must have seen in the movies or at least heard about the many wars that took place between Ireland and Britain throughout history have you ever wondered why these wars ever took place did you know that Ireland was actually a part of the united kingdom up until a century ago do you know anything about the Irish war of independence and its leaders in this video we are going to talk about Eamonn de Valera a man....

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  • @MA-eo2nz
    @MA-eo2nz 3 года назад +1

    Great information conveyed in short time👌🏻

  • @adrianainespena5654
    @adrianainespena5654 17 дней назад

    The most fascinating thing about de Valera was his relationship to fascism. A relationship that I would characterize as vampirizing - with de Valera as the vampire. Really, he handled the raw components of fascism, and channeled them to become parts of a democracy. He handled a lot of gunmen and turned them into well behaved politicians. That's quite an achievement.

  • @joeschipper2593
    @joeschipper2593 2 года назад +4

    id respect him a lot more if he didnt basically cause collins death, he wouldnt have gotten any sort of independence if it wasnt for him and he throws him away as a sacrifice like he was nothing

  • @adamender9092
    @adamender9092 3 года назад +8

    The only thing you got wrong was that the modern Sinn Féin has little got to do with the Sinn Féin he joined. He joined the anti-treaty Sinn Féin which has little got to do with the modern Sinn Féin. Also the Irish word for prime minister is “Príomh Áire”, “Taoiseach” means “Chief”

    • @lovers_and_haters
      @lovers_and_haters  3 года назад

      Thanks for the comment. Dont forget to subscribe to our channel and help us improve every time we upload something new. We upload 1 2D or 3D animation every 2-3 days and we always strive to be better with your help and support.

    • @maxpaws3977
      @maxpaws3977 3 года назад

      He also got wrong about Eamon DeValeras father, he was Spanish, not Cuban.

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari 3 года назад +3

      @@maxpaws3977 That was my immediate reaction too, but it appears the video was right, Juan Vivion de Valera was born in Cuba. However, Cuba was considered an integral part of Spain at the time, so to contemporary accounts he would have been completely Spanish.

    • @mikedemike5393
      @mikedemike5393 11 месяцев назад

      @@maxpaws3977 that is debatable...Some say there is a hungarian variation of devalera.and he was jewish blood.

  • @sirvansohrabi4050
    @sirvansohrabi4050 3 года назад +2

    It was a very interesting animation

  • @abtinhz7816
    @abtinhz7816 3 года назад +1

    Super interesting

  • @Lalehazizi
    @Lalehazizi 3 года назад

    Interesting informations

  • @Feathers10000
    @Feathers10000 6 месяцев назад +2

    Michael Collins is the true héroe !!!

  • @hamedshahmirzadi4576
    @hamedshahmirzadi4576 3 года назад +4

    Seems more precise study about the history in required?

  • @mehdihaghi4177
    @mehdihaghi4177 3 года назад +1

    Interesting!

  • @ParentOne1
    @ParentOne1 3 года назад +17

    One correction: Eamon de Valera’s father was a Spanish National born in Spain. The video should have shown the Spanish flag.

    • @randeepgill7702
      @randeepgill7702 3 года назад

      Non n ok but the no mmooo ommm nnniiokmnn in Niko mmmmmm no.

    • @xleplex7070
      @xleplex7070 3 года назад +2

      So they wouldn’t use the Irish flag in a video about Ireland because this one Irish guy wasn’t fully Irish?

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari 3 года назад +3

      That was my immediate reaction too, but it appears the video was right, Juan Vivion de Valera was born in Cuba. However, Cuba was considered an integral part of Spain at the time, so to contemporary accounts he would have been completely Spanish.

    • @ParentOne1
      @ParentOne1 3 года назад +1

      @@Jotari True. Since 1812 Spain did not have colonies. All of overseas territories were part of the nation and all its inhabitants were citizens protected under the constitution.

    • @migueltrujillo5932
      @migueltrujillo5932 3 месяца назад

      ...wrong he was born in Cardenas, Provincia of Matanzas of Spanish parents and that makes him a Criollo, thing is Cuba was a colony of Spain and Cubans were call Spaniels too.

  • @daireomaolain29
    @daireomaolain29 2 года назад +7

    As an Irish person from the North eamon de valera definitely wasn't perfect but definitely a reminder of the 1916 rising and the idea of a united Republic which was always the original idea eamon was one of the few peaple to have survived the rising. He's definitely one of my heroes and the risings ideas became heavily competed against with common na gael that wanted to be a dimenion of Britain and leave the north to the UK they also flirted with the idea of fascism while sinn fein is trying to get a united ireland and fiania fail is daibatibly trying to do the same the irish Republic is the dream for many native Irish in the north
    Edit:just so you know britain and it's "democracy" is bs as they still keep small countries from independence against their will

    • @familyseed1555
      @familyseed1555 4 месяца назад

      just so you know britain and it's "democracy" is bs as they still keep small countries from independence against their will
      Just like many country.

  • @sirvansohrabi4050
    @sirvansohrabi4050 3 года назад +2

    Great

  • @carmelmulroy6459
    @carmelmulroy6459 2 года назад +2

    I didn't like what Dev did to Collins and his relationship with the Church. But he kept Ireland out of WWII which was an amazing accomplishment considering the pressure he was under. Whatever flaws he had he was a very intelligent man. But he was at least partly responsible for the most pointless stupid war ever. Probably even more stupid than WII

  • @tinahassanzadeh4238
    @tinahassanzadeh4238 3 года назад +2

    I feel bad for those who died because there was no food

  • @maryb.8670
    @maryb.8670 3 года назад

    Good to know others histories

  • @sirvansohrabi4050
    @sirvansohrabi4050 3 года назад +2

    Good

  • @leilarad9416
    @leilarad9416 3 года назад +2

    👌👍

  • @MA-eo2nz
    @MA-eo2nz 3 года назад +1

    War is one of the worst thing that can happen to people of a nation, no matter what the reason is

    • @mikedemike5393
      @mikedemike5393 11 месяцев назад

      worse still is peace at any cost...or taken a knee to avoid war..

    • @lovers_and_haters
      @lovers_and_haters  11 месяцев назад

      So you prefer war?

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад

      ​@@lovers_and_hatersTo an unjust peace? Would you like it if your people, or any people, were oppressed? Well we should do something about it.

  • @tonyclifton265
    @tonyclifton265 8 месяцев назад

    he made a great speech just after VE day in response to churchill's criticism of irish conduct during WW2

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад

      Indeed! His finest hour, honestly his reputation would be perfect if he resigned in 1948.

  • @SamSam-wj5nd
    @SamSam-wj5nd 10 месяцев назад +1

    Issac butt had the right idea for Ireland but it was spoiled by Easter risen hes buried in the same church yard i attended in Donegal st Mary's church of Ireland stranlor

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад

      Actually his ideas were being rejected around the time he was alive. Separatism was in the air and it was Land issues that moved politics.

  • @brigittebeltran6701
    @brigittebeltran6701 2 года назад +2

    Their descendants now live in Arizona...both Collins and De Valera!

  • @maxpaws3977
    @maxpaws3977 3 года назад +1

    Too many inaccuracies. You should delete the video because it's supposed to be about history, but it's inaccurate.

  • @seangleason260
    @seangleason260 3 года назад +1

    Goes to show the right relationship between irish people and irish Americans

    • @stephenwright8824
      @stephenwright8824 2 года назад +1

      This Irish-American wonders if there was/is ever a "right relationship" between the Island of Saints and Scholars and the Land that Inflicted Trump on Planet Earth. "The reason the Irish fight amongst themselves is they can find no other worthy opponents," might give some of us insight, but i seriously doubt it.

    • @conormccormack7841
      @conormccormack7841 2 года назад

      @@stephenwright8824 At least Trump is a funny traitor. Don't tell me you like Bush, Obama, Joe, or Bill?

  • @olivergrumitt8033
    @olivergrumitt8033 2 года назад

    I thought the film about Michael Collins, with Liam Nelson in the title role, pretty historically accurate, although it did take some liberties like the fact that the man working for Collins in Dublin Castle, Ned Broy, , played by Stephen Rea, was not killed by the man played by Charles Dance and his men but died peacefully in 1972 over half a century from the events depicted in the film, Molotov cocktails were not invented at the time of the Irish Independence struggle and that Harry Boland, played by Aidan Quinn, was shot dead in a town outside Dublin, not in a Dublin sewer.
    Although of course a very serious film, it had moments of humor such as when Collins was told he was 7 minutes late for the ceremony marking the start of the Irish Free State he replied “You kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your 7 minutes” and to assure his men that if they had qualms about what they were going to do, he said “There’s the door”. One of his men, Vinny, asked him “Would we have got past the door?” And Collins replied he would have.
    I was also struck how closely the late Alan Rickman, who played DeValera, resembled him.
    DeValera was the only leader of his country to send condolences on the death of Adolf Hitler following his suicide in a Berlin bunker in 1945. However, this was really sending out a message of how much he loathed the British, who had executed 16 of his colleagues and friends after the Easter Rising, than any sympathy for Hitler and the Nazis.

    • @ziebelzubel
      @ziebelzubel 2 года назад

      What is the film called? I'm fascinated with Irish political history and I'd love to see a movie about it with Liam Neeson and Alan Rickman playing the lead!

    • @splinterbyrd
      @splinterbyrd 11 месяцев назад

      Dev made himself and the Irish people look very small-minded and backward by visiting the German ambassador the way he did, coming weeks after the liberation of Auschwitz

    • @internetual7350
      @internetual7350 10 месяцев назад

      @@ziebelzubel "Michael Collins"

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад

      ​@@splinterbyrdIt was perhaps a bit much but I think it was the right thing to do. It firmly emphasised that Éire was not even at that point going to cow-tow to British interests. It was also what you were supposed to do diplomatically.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад

      ​@@internetual7350Not a good film. It made it seem like Éamon de Valera did everything wrong. As for errors; Dev was likely not spared because he was American, Mícheál Seán Ó Coileáin's face was known to the British, Ó Coileáin very much was a politician given that he was both a Teachta Dála and Minister of Finance and Dev did not get him killed either. The events of Bloody Sunday (1920) are skewed a bit the massacre was likely the British being idiots and firing at the crowd after one of their own had fired. The treaty issue I cannot fault despite me being anti-treaty.

  • @joehart7260
    @joehart7260 5 месяцев назад

    Video appears to assume that everyone executed was hanged rather than shot.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад

      I guess hanging is associated more with executions and so is a useful symbol. Also Ruairí Dáithí Mac Easmainn was hanged.

  • @jamesvickers5998
    @jamesvickers5998 3 года назад +2

    There's a few inaccuracies in here.

    • @lovers_and_haters
      @lovers_and_haters  3 года назад

      Thanks for the comment. Point them out and we will try to improve

    • @derrybhoy6971
      @derrybhoy6971 3 года назад +3

      @@lovers_and_haters Well firstly, it is untrue to say that "Northern Ireland" wanted to retain the colonial link with Britain. There was no such thing as Northern Ireland in 1918 when the whole of Ireland as one unit voted for independence. "Northern Ireland" is a false, colonial entity. It does not encompass the entire north of the country because to do so would expose the lie that the north was some kind of natural British territory. It wasn't and it isn't. Therefore the border was selectively drawn, to partition not just Ireland, but Ulster as well. A gerrymandered entity that operated like Apartheid South Africa to deny Irish people living there, their national rights.

  • @SmileyDemixoxo
    @SmileyDemixoxo 3 года назад +7

    The English didn't propose Home Rule. Isacc Butt was an Irish Barrister and politician who founded the Home Government which actively campaigned for Home Rule. Campaigns were unsuccessful, and the party became the Home Rule League and then it eventually became the Irish Parliamentary Party which was lead by Charles Stewart Parnell. Under his leadership, it was the closest Ireland ever managed to get to Home Rule though no attempts ever managed to pass the House of Lords. At the break of World War I, Home Rule was used as a bargaining chip for conscription purposes though it would never come to be and Britiain never intended to grant it. Éamon DeValera had nothing to do with Home Rule Movements. I'm less than 2 minutes in and this is a great error in your video, hopefully there won't be anymore.
    Edit: His role in the 1916 rising was less significant than alluded. While he was commander at Bolands Mill, his role was miniscule in comparison to the leaders (the seven signatories) such as Padraig Pearse or James Connelly. Michael Collins, Constance Markievicz and Éamon DeValera were spared from execution at the last minute, mainly due to severe public outcry from the Irish people following the executions. All three had small roles in the Easter Rising but they became leaders in the War of Independance as the last remaining Easter Rising participants.
    There is a lot of information left out of your video and a lot of information is represented inaccurately.

    • @CobyTheRabbit
      @CobyTheRabbit 3 года назад

      Thanks for writing a whole fucking essay

    • @MiloManning05
      @MiloManning05 3 года назад

      Gladstone and the liberals barely were for home rule

    • @nar2cc
      @nar2cc 11 месяцев назад

      @@CobyTheRabbit You probably couldn't orchestrate a point just as well 😂

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад

      ​@@nar2ccActually he makes a big @#£%ing error at the start by writing that Home Rule was not granted by Britain. It was in 1914 but then a War happened. As for Éamon de Valera, he was not a big part of it inasmuch as any of the other commanders were outside of big areas like the General Post Office.

    • @nar2cc
      @nar2cc 3 месяца назад

      @@johnnotrealname8168 Yes, however, the Homerule bill would've never have been passed regardless, it would've plunged the country into civil war.

  • @susan1346
    @susan1346 3 года назад

    👍

  • @bahramamini4143
    @bahramamini4143 3 года назад +1

    Very

  • @pablo5037
    @pablo5037 3 года назад +9

    St Patrick didn’t get rid of all the snakes Micheal Collins was the man

    • @Muchjoy..
      @Muchjoy.. 3 года назад +5

      The snakes was a reference to paganism and Druids

    • @footballlife5577
      @footballlife5577 3 года назад +1

      @novax he bad to, he was the head of arms in the war of independence and he knew that he couldn't continue the war as there were very little troops left, the British threatened to send in they're army which would demolish the irish resistance in a manner of days, he signed this knowing it would be a death sentence but would be one step closer to independence and tried so hard to avoid civil war until de valera kidnapped one of the pro treaty members and collins was forced to act which led to the civil war and later his death, micheal collins was the reason Ireland ever got independence, if he didn't sign that treaty we would have remained part if the UK

    • @adamoconnor6817
      @adamoconnor6817 3 года назад +2

      I think Collins has been over-romanticised. If you look at it from a neutral angle he ordered the killings of fathers and sons in their beds infront of their families in some cases

    • @footballlife5577
      @footballlife5577 3 года назад +1

      @@adamoconnor6817 after we valera had kidnapped many pro treaty men and killed countless also in don't of their sons and fathers etc

    • @adamoconnor6817
      @adamoconnor6817 3 года назад +2

      @@footballlife5577 I'm not at all saying that De Valera was an angel. But I think that the fact Collins formed basically a death squad to assassinate people kind of gives the picture that he was not a nice guy😂. Now I understand that the Cairo Gang was warned and didn't comply and that they were a legitimate military target but most of the victims weren't warned and were assassinated on mere speculation that they were collaborating with the British

  • @susannamarker2582
    @susannamarker2582 3 года назад +4

    Collins lost his life for Ireland to be governed by it's new colonial master, the EU, and the RTE D4 set won't talk about it.

    • @lovers_and_haters
      @lovers_and_haters  3 года назад

      Thanks for the comment. Dont forget to subscribe to our channel and help us improve every time we upload something new. We upload 1 2D or 3D animation every 2-3 days and we always strive to be better with your help and support.

  • @jennyob5073
    @jennyob5073 3 года назад +5

    Gemma o Doherty is Ireland’s modern day hero rebel.

  • @DJALPHIRE
    @DJALPHIRE 3 года назад +7

    At least Devalera was consistent in his goal and fought for it, who can tell about his dark side.. more study needed

    • @stephenwright8824
      @stephenwright8824 2 года назад +2

      It's been done to death. Particularly *his*, thank goodness.

  • @splinterbyrd
    @splinterbyrd 11 месяцев назад

    Eamon deValera paid an official prime ministerial visit to the German ambassador to offer his and the Irish People's condolences on the death of Adolf Hitler

    • @lovers_and_haters
      @lovers_and_haters  11 месяцев назад

      really? reference please

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад

      ​@@lovers_and_haters"de Valera to Robert Brennan, 21 May 1945; UCDA, P150/2676" It is a letter and it is available in this book: "Judging Dev: A Reassessment of the Life and Legacy of Eamon De Valera (2007) By Diarmaid Ferriter.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 3 месяца назад +1

      It was an official visit that was usual in such matters, I believe it was done for the soviets too.

  • @nathanc30
    @nathanc30 2 года назад

    Born in America. Interesting

  • @Whiplashfights
    @Whiplashfights 2 года назад

    Most of the underscore is complete Bollox -Signed an Irish Citizen

  • @Lily-ft8jz
    @Lily-ft8jz 3 года назад +3

    Such a great leader!!!

    • @conorfarrell3279
      @conorfarrell3279 3 года назад +5

      Nothing compared to Michael Collins

    • @darraghd9904
      @darraghd9904 3 года назад +2

      Except for the fact he brought the irish economy to its knees.

    • @bigbrother8285
      @bigbrother8285 Год назад +1

      @@conorfarrell3279 Collins wore the uniform the Brits gave him and turned the guns they gave him on his own ppl. What a guy.

    • @johnboylan3591
      @johnboylan3591 7 месяцев назад +1

      A great leader that plunged his country into civil war he refused to go to London the man was a coward

  • @elonmusk7406
    @elonmusk7406 3 года назад +6

    Tiocfaidh ar lá

  • @mcdevitt815
    @mcdevitt815 Год назад

    Unwatchable because of the bot narration and music

    • @lovers_and_haters
      @lovers_and_haters  Год назад

      I agree. I dont like bot narration either. That's why after this video, we hired real people to narrate our videos

  • @stephenwright8824
    @stephenwright8824 2 года назад

    Happily and readily disliked. If for nothing less than being longer than "2 minutes."

    • @lovers_and_haters
      @lovers_and_haters  2 года назад

      sorry to heat that this video did not meet your expectations. we will strive to be better in future

  • @SuperDonegal1
    @SuperDonegal1 Месяц назад

    Dev a traitor to ireland

  • @brigittebeltran6701
    @brigittebeltran6701 2 года назад +1

    We are his descendants! ❤☘🙏