TRON Legacy soundtrack, Joseph Trapanese & Mixing Synths with Orchestra in Logic X Music Production

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

Комментарии • 126

  • @sharkprisoner1909
    @sharkprisoner1909 3 года назад +83

    “As much as I would like to say “I’m a collaborator,” I was also just along for the journey. Thomas and Guy-Manuel really had the artistic vision from beginning to end.” -Joseph Trapanese

  • @lwdesign3743
    @lwdesign3743 3 года назад +44

    I loved both the Oblivion and Tron: Legacy score, now I know why!

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  3 года назад +3

      Me too! Thanks for watching! :)

  • @5timesm
    @5timesm Год назад +9

    The end title of TL was a Roland 303 or something similar… the way it morphs into a score from an electronic beat is awesome and shows how the combination of Daft Punk and a Score writer composer blends perfectly.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      Very true. Great assessment! Thanks for the comment and for watching. :-)

  • @doubleohdutch2108
    @doubleohdutch2108 Год назад +5

    Tron Legacy and Oblivion have more in common than than Joseph Trapanese. Both have incredible soundtracks, are very underrated movies, as well as their director (photography, design, vfx…). The evolution of the film score industry and the implementation of computers and DAWS, made it possible for people with no classical background (who cannot read music) to become “composers”, which is great. Problem is, once they become famous (Zimmer mostly), and begin to hire assistants for EVERYTHING, it becomes very difficult for them to make a breakthrough and make a name for themselves (Badelt, Gregson-William brothers, Rabin, Mazzaro, etc). Trapanese surely deserves it.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +2

      Some very good points there. I think that the decreasing in the barrier of entry for composers and producers has changed the industry in many ways both for good and for bad. An now we have AI… time will tell. Thanks for watching!

  • @mass-1128
    @mass-1128 Год назад +9

    Joseph Trapanese is incredibly underrated!
    He also did the soundtrack for the new Hulu horror "No One Will Save You."

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +3

      Agreed. He’s a beast.

  • @OHHnoYOUdidntMAN
    @OHHnoYOUdidntMAN 4 года назад +20

    I was 12 years old when Tron Legacy came out and have been in love with the scores/music of both Tron & Oblivion ever since. The movies are my top two favorites of all time as well.
    I find the Tron: Legacy soundtrack is a lot more melodic than the Oblivion one. But Oblivion definitely has that amazing self-titled track.
    You're so right on the bit-crushing. Especially on the war drums.
    Your track is awesome. One thing I might change is the formant of your horns. I'd add a formant shifter and change the formant (not the pitch) to something like an octave lower to get it more powerful and electronic-sounding. Putting bit-crusher / sample-rate reduction after reverb in the effects chain is really cool and useful too.
    When those staccato strings came in, it definitely felt like Tron.
    I'm so glad people like you are still talking about these films' songs.
    Thank you for this video, amazing.
    PS: What do you think of Ólafur Arnalds? For example, his more electronic compositions like 'ypsilon.'

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад +2

      Hey, Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Good tips there, I’ll definitely give that a try. Yeah, I’m really loving Olafur Arnalds right now! I’m also a big Sugur Ros fan and I feel like his music has a similar feel. Maybe I need to take a trip to Iceland and drink some of their water or something. Haha. Who else are you into?

    • @OHHnoYOUdidntMAN
      @OHHnoYOUdidntMAN 4 года назад

      @@Koboto Definitely, it's amazing how Iceland produces so many great musicians. I have to imagine it's from the laid back life style and ample space they can have for each person.
      I mostly listen to artists such as DIIV, Tame Impala, Tycho, Unknown Mortal Orchestra, Melody's Echo Chamber, Gotye, AIR, M83, RJD2 and the like.
      Ólafur & Nils Frahm are the two artists who showed me "neo-classical" was a thing. It's amazing what they can do with their electronica-leaning songs as well.
      For a majority of their songs not having drums per-se all the melodies are really catchy & hypnotic. For neo-classical, to me, catchyness functions more in a song-feeling-like-a-story (or cinematic thing you get lost in) kind of way rather than a jam-along kind of song. It's a journey that takes you somewhere.
      Saw your other video about your experience working with Danny Elfman. That was a great story!

  • @vajrapurush_past
    @vajrapurush_past 10 месяцев назад +2

    Trapanese is actually the one who has worked on the Tron: Uprising animated series score!! This is so freakin awesome for i would keep listening to it, and be like this is just like the film
    Now i know why.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. Both are great scores. Thanks for watching::-) 👍

  • @ShadowArtist
    @ShadowArtist 2 года назад +7

    the track you composed I could totally imagine it as the opening music for TRON 3 or for an opening sequence for a second season of Tron Uprising...

  • @mamelucoderribado
    @mamelucoderribado Год назад +3

    a love letter to tron legacy. magnificent work

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      For sure! I really do love that film and the music is such a huge part. Thanks for watching!!

  • @tundraportal
    @tundraportal 3 года назад +13

    Great video!, I never knew Joseph Trapenese was the orchestrator and conductor for Legacy. Hope he is involved with the 3rd film.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  3 года назад +5

      Likewise. I think he may be a bit too popular now to take an orchestration gig but we can all hope. Haha. Thanks for watching!

  • @theohuon5221
    @theohuon5221 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think Daft Punk and M83 created the synths and the melody, and Joseph Trapanese took the melody and adapt it to play it on orchestra and blend it with the synths.

  • @BenjiDalton
    @BenjiDalton Год назад +2

    ruclips.net/video/lzBmAEIe9o0/видео.html
    my take is, though he probably didn't get his due credit as a collaborator, that's more because of his insistence. He expresses that he helped them translate their ideas for the orchestration heavy stuff. Daft Punk directed it and it was their vision, according to all parties involved. But take into account that this was also Joseph's big break into the industry so I think he might have just gone along with letting them take credit for some of his composition ideas, though again, he says this is not the case.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад

      For sure. I also read a few interviews where he says that. It definitely doesn’t seem that Joseph has any issues with the way things were credited. This is just my personal take but I’m just a peasant and I don’t have any inside knowledge of what actually happened.

  • @JamesJohnson-ok1hn
    @JamesJohnson-ok1hn 2 года назад +2

    Hell yes the orchestration in the mix is so epic. Theres a grand scale to the sound..

  • @OTOss8
    @OTOss8 Год назад +3

    6:10 it's good that you let new viewers in on your little ADD secret, however, by using "celli" instead of "cellos" you tipped your hand to attentive listeners. Great video, thank you for introducing me to the work of Joseph Trapanese. This was very interesting. and well worth the viewing time. Cheers.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      Haha. Thanks so much for watching. I very much appreciate your kind comment. :-) hope you have a great day! 🌞

    • @OTOss8
      @OTOss8 Год назад +1

      @@Koboto Thank you for the kind words. I hope your day is great too. Cheers.

  • @siesjuan
    @siesjuan 2 года назад +4

    I listen every week to The game has changed, C.L.U and Rinzler from Legacy score

  • @Hyper5nic
    @Hyper5nic Год назад +2

    Thanks for sharing thoughts, your search for Joseph Trapanese.
    The track "Derezzed" was made with a preset effect from Grossbeat, an Image-line plugin.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад

      Thanks for the info!

  • @andreas.neophytou
    @andreas.neophytou 2 года назад +2

    This is incredible. Tron Legacy, Oblivion (especially the main song during the credits ending with a super piano ambient arrangement). Some of my favourite movie soundtracks of all time!
    Also, the Netflix movie with Jamie Foxx titled Power (has the theme song for Jamie's super power - highly recommend listening to it - Flashback / Power).
    All these arranged or co-composed by Joseph Trapanese. It all makes sense to me now. This video has opened my eyes. Thnx

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  2 года назад

      Nice one. I'll have a listen. Thanks for the recommend!

  • @goodial
    @goodial 4 года назад +7

    very interesting video! I've liked Trapanese's work for quite some time, also due to Tron Legacy. I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing him! :D
    he also part of the project called Archis (check out the song Blood) and did the trailer music for the first Iron Man 3 trailer, that one was pretty iconic to me! :)

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад

      Awesome! I’ll definitely check it out. Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @chriscapaudio
    @chriscapaudio 3 года назад +3

    The combined synth and orchestral elements work very well together. Nice work... subscribed! ;)

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  3 года назад

      Hey, thanks som much for the support and encouragement!! New videos coming soon. :)

  • @stevenvillacis1163
    @stevenvillacis1163 Год назад +2

    This is BEYONNDDD AMAZING, I'm truly inspired and can't wait to give it a try myself! 👀🤺

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      Hey. Thanks so much for the encouraging words. Good luck with your composing!

  • @PierGen
    @PierGen Год назад +1

    great information, nice video, i like this content, i am a fan of Joseph Trapanese without knowing.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад

      Thanks so much for watching. I’m very happy that you were able to take something away from it.

  • @joslyndresen
    @joslyndresen 3 года назад +11

    Doesn't an orchestrator have a different role in creating the score as the composer? So when the orchestrator becomes the composer of the same IP for antoher show similarities arise. For example Williams Jurassic Park score vs Giacchino Jurassic World. On another note. Joseph Trapanese also scored Kosinki's 3rd film 'Only the Brave'. This could mean that Trapanese and Kosinki have a shared aesthetic feel for the music like ie. Nolan and Zimmer

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  3 года назад

      interesting! did Giacchino orchestrate the original score for Jurassic Park?

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 23 дня назад

      I thought this too. Also the Uprising rendition of the motif goes in different harmonic directions than Daft Punk tend to. I always assumed they made their synth compositions, then asked Trapanese as the arranger to, well, arrange. Assign the arpeggios and motifs to the strings, brass, etc as Trapanese felt appropriate.
      Daft Punk have always been collaborative in one way or another, be it with disco records in their first albums or recording with their disco idols in their final album. Given the way Trapanese said it was their vision and he was just along for the ride, I figure they had input in various orchestration arrangements as well.
      Certainly he has tendencies to arrange synth basslines in certain ways, similar with Oblivion, but compositionally the latter did sound like M83 to me. Just, again, one where demos got intercepted by a classical arranger and mixed-in.

  • @Nick.Brough
    @Nick.Brough 9 месяцев назад

    Great analysis & video. Always thought DP got too much credit for T:L. I still get chills when I hear the track “recogniser” from when Sam first enters The Grid.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  8 месяцев назад +1

      For sure! That track is killer. The VO is cool as well but right after he says “I got in.” Those big synths….soooo good. 👍

  • @姚命宏
    @姚命宏 4 года назад +4

    OMG, no wonder I like oblivion's soundtrack too, and I will always think of tron when I listen to it despite that the two movies have nothing to do with each other.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад

      Same director for both but yeah...I think the "feel" of both films is super similar and that has a lot to do with Trapanese's contribution Imo.

    • @lwdesign3743
      @lwdesign3743 3 года назад +1

      Also the same concept artist created the vehicles and stuff. Like the bubble ship and light cycle, pretty cool stuff!

  • @neonvoid
    @neonvoid Год назад +1

    Great insights - thank you

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @joshualunati4105
    @joshualunati4105 4 года назад +1

    Love the video Mike. Great analysis of the track as well.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад

      Thanks for checking it out!

  • @Skwid-Lives
    @Skwid-Lives 3 года назад +1

    Man I’ve listened to the tron soundtrack more times than I know. I even have the Mondo vinyl. I’ll have to checkout the oblivion soundtrack. Thanks

  • @wanderinggenie
    @wanderinggenie 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video! It is very helpful. Right now I am composing something with this kind of flavour and your video helped me a lot!

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад

      Awesome! What are you working on?

    • @wanderinggenie
      @wanderinggenie 4 года назад

      @@KobotoThanks! I am doing something for the West World Competition and, in a way I was inspired by the Tron Legacy soundtrack, and your video was of great help!

  • @devilichus
    @devilichus 5 месяцев назад

    In Tron uprising the themes from Legacy are being used and imitated the main skeleton and base of all tracks are made by Daft Punk. I believe Joseph just helped their technical shortcomings in expressing the composition into complex symphonical arrangements.

  • @williamfarnsworth8750
    @williamfarnsworth8750 4 года назад +11

    Mike...do you know Joseph Trananese? I mean have you ever met him? If not why don't you introduce yourself. Maybe there's a collaboration opportunity. Amazing video Mike! Thanks for the peek under the hood. Fascinating.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад +5

      I've never met him...He's a big deal now...but, yeah I would definitely hang out it the opportunity presented itself. :)

  • @MrDCPatterson
    @MrDCPatterson 3 года назад +1

    A totally inspired tutorial. Many thanks. Subscribed!

  • @lilerichzahn1972
    @lilerichzahn1972 4 года назад +5

    Strongly suggest you listen to Ola Strandh's soundtrack for the first The Division game. Precinct Siege is a nice example of the blend of electronic and orchestral sound ! The Division 2's soundrack is similar but less electronic. Also, listen to The Divsion/Survival DLC soundtrack, similar stuff... Any of The Division 1 trailer will feature his fabulous soundtrack !

    • @lilerichzahn1972
      @lilerichzahn1972 4 года назад +1

      There's also a fantastic The Division podcast episode on Behind the Music : soundcloud.com/search?q=the%20division%20podcast%202%20episode%202

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад +1

      Awesome! I’ll check them out and report back. :-). Thanks so much for the recommendations.

  • @Jsalaberry2000
    @Jsalaberry2000 Год назад +2

    I Love Tron Legacy... Because that movie, my cat called: TRON 😁

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      Haha. Nice one!

  • @lthomas63
    @lthomas63 Год назад +1

    Great job!

  • @Rawalue
    @Rawalue Год назад +1

    Nice Work

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад

      Thanks for the visit

  • @adamlehat6682
    @adamlehat6682 2 года назад +2

    All you had to say was one thing…
    Biodigital Jazz man

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад

      “Biodigital Jazz” is gonna be my rapper name now.

  • @briantriesart
    @briantriesart 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the data!!

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  2 года назад

      You’re welcome. :-)

  • @FrenchJerkTV
    @FrenchJerkTV 3 года назад +1

    Amazing Job

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching!!

  • @TheAmerind
    @TheAmerind 2 года назад +1

    Dude, you need more likes and subscribers

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! Hopefully some more videos will be up soon.

  • @IronCityExperience
    @IronCityExperience 2 года назад

    If you listen to Robin Hood 2018 and Stuber 2019 you’ll notice Joseph Trapanese who composed those has very similar elements to Tron Legacy as well

  • @KayoMichiels
    @KayoMichiels Месяц назад

    Sky Sports F1 uses Outlands as the intro for their F1 broadcasts!

  • @narmale
    @narmale Год назад +1

    alot of Matrix influence in there for sure... imagine that lol... what a monster

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      For sure! Thanks for watching!

  • @WalkinonSunshyne
    @WalkinonSunshyne 9 месяцев назад

    Interesting video. I definetly expect an arranger to have influence on the sound of a piece. However knowing “temp” tracks or the fact that a film composer can sell themselves on prior work - I wonder how much would be trapanese’s voice and how much daft punks for the original. Interesting video.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  8 месяцев назад

      For sure… JT goes on record saying that DP were involved in the entire process from start to finish….(Disney may have had him at gunpoint tho) haha. Actually, knowing how famous they are, I imagine that the time JT spent with them was quite limited. I’d speculate that they agreed to a set amount of time to contribute for the right to use their name and JT & his team just had to make it work and deliver the score. Who knows tho. I think we can all agree that the score is awesome no matter what. Haha. Thanks for watching!

  • @paeden5431
    @paeden5431 2 года назад +2

    Found out JT does The Witcher stuff too!

  • @blech71
    @blech71 2 года назад +2

    I thought “TRAPANESE” was a stage name taken and to make a style of music lol…. Damn I pronounced it wrong and didn’t know it was dood’s real name.
    Awesome now nonetheless!

  • @SuperMattman21
    @SuperMattman21 3 года назад +2

    My personal opinion: Joseph Trapanese x Deamau5 for Tron 3 if it ever comes out.
    If you don't understand why--then go listen to deadmau5's "where's the drop?" album.
    P.S. Yes I am aware of the dumbass lawsuit disney filed against Deadmau5, but in a perfect world that would be water under the bridge.

    • @Makhwax
      @Makhwax Год назад

      On point! Joel is the textbook successor to daft punk when it comes to out-of-the-box electronica projects.

  • @elmarakovideo
    @elmarakovideo Год назад +1

    Joseph Trapanese needs to score the next movie Tron:Ares. Daft Punk unfortunately broke up in 2021.😢

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      I’m pretty much a fan of anything Joseph Trepanese. :-). Thanks for watching!1

  • @SlyHikari03
    @SlyHikari03 2 года назад +1

    Joseph is legendary.

  • @zurielauguiste
    @zurielauguiste Год назад +1

    Great video! Are these all native logic sounds?

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      Not really. I think most are from NI KOMPLETE bundle and some are from my hardware synths.

    • @zurielauguiste
      @zurielauguiste Год назад

      @@Koboto thanks you’re very talented. Do you offer lessons?

  • @playbookshowme484
    @playbookshowme484 Год назад +1

    I knew they didn't do it when I 1st heard it as well but didn't dig into it

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад +1

      Same. I really do love Daft Punk I just think the credits are a little misleading and that Joe doesn’t get the credit he deserves on a great piece of work. Thanks so much for watching! 🙏🏾

    • @playbookshowme484
      @playbookshowme484 Год назад

      @@Koboto I've DJ'd for decades and own DP records from various record labels, I'm sure it was easy for many of us to distinguis . I still value those records, but DP became a big name just like Madonna long ago. there IP is worth the sell for the entertainment industry, marketing is key for them.

  • @MegaTigerUppercut
    @MegaTigerUppercut 8 месяцев назад

    if i were only allowed a single aural/visual experience, it would be the light cycle battle in TL.

  • @nascen7
    @nascen7 4 года назад +2

    I'm trying similar elements in my work. I would love for you to check out my composition and let me know what you think, but I'm not crazy enough to drop that link here...

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад +1

      Sure. I think you can post it here. Haha, my channel isn’t very big and folks are pretty positive in their feedback. Feel free to pm me if you want. Thanks for commenting!!

    • @nascen7
      @nascen7 4 года назад +1

      @@Koboto OK, I wish not to get jumped by mega trolls... audius.co/nascent/my-holiday-songs-38326

    • @nascen7
      @nascen7 4 года назад

      @@Koboto This is actually two song ideas that I want to eventually flesh out.

  • @Игорь-р8у6б
    @Игорь-р8у6б 4 года назад +2

    wow sounds awesome, check out pilotpriest when you have free time

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  4 года назад

      Will do. Thanks!

  • @earitch5856
    @earitch5856 9 месяцев назад

    Many scores are not written by the person who is credited ...🤐

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  8 месяцев назад

      Very true.

  • @KBizzy
    @KBizzy 10 месяцев назад

    I’m going to guess that Daft Punk is solely credited as composers because their name is so huge, maybe they had an agreement or something to retain sole composing credit for monetary reasons. Because you’re right, Daft Punk throughout their history has never, ever been big on complex compositions and have been more about sequencing synths and creating unique sounds etc. I’ve really wondered this as well. Did they really compose all those epic sounding melodies? Because it’s very uncharacteristic if so.

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, that was my same feeling which lead me down this rabbit hole. No shade to DP tho. I’m actually a big fan. I just felt that Joe T didn’t get the props her deserves for his contribution to that work. Thanks for watching!

    • @KBizzy
      @KBizzy 8 месяцев назад

      @@Koboto totally. I don’t think there’s any way they composed those melodies themselves. Far too cinematic for them.

  • @urbanstarship
    @urbanstarship Год назад +1

    Maybe not using the real composer's name was a marketing strategy to sell soundtracks?

  • @DarioManes
    @DarioManes 4 месяца назад

    subtitleeeeee

  • @dyscotopia
    @dyscotopia Год назад +1

    Wow. This is incredibly condescending and smacks of elitism. Daft Punk and M83 are incredibly talented and unique voices in electronic music history. Sure, they might not have the classical training to give the tracks the final bit of polish (there are only so many Wendy Carlos's) , but they would certainly be capable of creating first drafts for Joseph to flesh out.
    Daft Punk after all did create two films prior to their Tron Legacy work.
    Joseph is a great arranger and all four artists are incredible composers. Let's all just get along. No one was miscredited, tho I'm glad Joseph got his name elevated in the credits😂 for oblivion

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  Год назад

      “Elite” is my middle name.

  • @netneedingsystems2318
    @netneedingsystems2318 3 года назад +1

    Of often happens that daft punk and other artists steal credit from others... Thanks for sharing

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  3 года назад

      So true!

    • @unknowngaming1432
      @unknowngaming1432 3 года назад +3

      I don't think they would steal the credit as they would really have no need to. What I belive happened is Daft Punk probably came up with how it would sound and the feel they wanted and then handed off the orchestral arrangement to Trapanese. Probably similar as M83. And the similar sounding synth bass in Oblivian could be his input from working with Daft Punk.

  • @-.369.-
    @-.369.- 4 года назад +1

    daft punk had very few influence on most tracks, disney worked for daft punk, they served as marketing only

    • @ashneel
      @ashneel 4 года назад +5

      Daft Punk were mostly responsible, Guy and Thomas each doing the good and evil pieces of the soundtrack

  • @sorayaknox1812
    @sorayaknox1812 3 года назад +1

    Love this video😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @Koboto
      @Koboto  3 года назад

      Hey, thanks for watching!