Cold Sorc AFTER Nerf To Cold Mastery (Patch 2.6)
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- just a little bit of commentary and gameplay to showcase the cold sorceress post nerf for anybody interested in seeing it with some top end gear (no infinity necessary still) let me know what you think below and have a great day!
Cold mastery - exists in op state for 20 years.
2022: gets insane buff
2023: gets nerf that is half of the buff
Community: "now its weak..."
It's still crazy strong with good gear lol the sundering charm is a bigger buff than the nerf to cold mastery
@@dartlingamingyeah but people are missing the point of what you need to do to get to that point compared to other classes that can easily break immunities.
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With the same gear you're using at the previous patch, you shouldn't feel any difference in kill speed vs non-cold immunes. The changes however has widen (by a lot) the kill speed vs immunes as evident on the Eldritch and Shenk clip since you no longer do -100, you're about -45. I suggest dropping the Enigma for a 4-socket armor with -20/+20, and if you're farming places with tons of cold immune, you could sacrifice overall damage by replacing the Fathom to Doom instead. That should "flatten" out the gap.
I've been doing lots of test runs amongst the three elements, and so far the weakest is Cold (even on low cold immune areas such as Chaos Sanctuary)
I think also possibly going with infinity merc on higher player count would also solve it but then you'd lose the QOL of the insight, I meant to have a different armor but I was messing around with self-wielding infinity with cold but the cast rate was just terrible lol I had to wear enigma just to be able to hold the monarch
What was your best for farming Chao Sanc/overall?
@@B______L I made about 60 runs and compared different builds, thus far, Nova is unbeatable in clear speed. I only made full clears and the fastest was about 1:10- 1:20.
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to be fair blizzard had to do something about how powerful cold mastery was. I do think of this as a balance more than a nerf. good vid !
Def, I think it's still insanely strong considering how the other masteries work
Basically, i would play similar build, but without the Nova. Just on Frozen orb and Blizzard + synergies. I do put 1 point in Static field and i play it without Energy shield too.
Blizzard destroy the long range enemies, frozen orb - mid and close range. Yes, Frozen Nova is good, but if you are fed-up with items like you :P
Yeah I think the Nova is the weakest thing if I respec I'll def 1 point static that was a mistake for sure esp if I played higher player counts I would probably just go Max blizzard and Max orb those def hit the hardest but if I was going for Uber's I would try to max out ice bolt that's the damage dealer on single targets
Cold Sorc is the best Sorc. Meta be damned.
cold sorc has been meta for 23 years bro
I think it still is meta tbh
the way i see it, is if you play purely blizzard ( which is what i like ) even on P1 cold immunes feel tedious to kill because of blizzard not hitting a lot of the time and if you want to solo farm P8 areas with cold immunes it's literraly wayyy too long to kill stuff it's not even worth it. my gear is Dfathom, nightwing veil CoH spirit and all the good stuff with some skillers.
That's my biggest gripe with blizzard it misses so much that's why for the longest I literally used to go Max Frozen orb and use blizzard as a supplementary AOE skill
No offense but sitting at the highest end doesn't help, way to much gear that should make you character op by end game, getting a sundering charm means you have to get through the game , which good luck as they went overboard with cold immunes and you have zero way to break it.
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Never liked Cold Sorc for anything other than starting the season and mephisto/andy "seasonal baby steps" ; i just don't see myself running terror zones throwing blizzard at enemies. but maybe that's just me, the build is still strong regardless :)
yeah that's my issue with blizzard personally, it feels like you're sitting waiting on it compared to frozen orb that's y i usually use them both to minimize rng but nova sorc(light) is better at basically everything except bosses id say
Keep up the good work bro
Thank you!
I just static field after casting blizzard and almost all pops
You have a lot of -cold res from your gear, so you wouldn’t really feel too much of a difference. But before the nerf, you didn’t need DF or NW or facets to melt EVERYTHING. I def feel the difference, because I don’t have this gear. But I’m still able to kill players 3 with a little static field and not a lot of effort. So it’s still very powerful even after the nerf.
That's what I was thinking it's probably way more noticeable on higher player counts or with less gear and skillers but I figure unless somebody is obsessed with playing player 7 or something it should be still pretty strong you just have to put more points into cold mastery than you used to
@@dartlingaming yeah exactly, I can still do terrorized Andy runs on p3 with my blizzard sorc in full tal and kill the cold immune zombie mobs around her in about a minute per run. So it’s by no means weak, but it was definitely OP when they first launched the asunder charms. I actually like it better now, because it actually makes sense to keep looking for gear upgrades after you get the charm
people heavily underestimate how much damage cold mastery can give into immunes, 95% res is the sunder charm.
200%cm is giving you 40% pen.
so you deal roughly 9 times the damage to sundered immunes. that's way higher than both fire and lightning mastery into targets that actually matter.
lightning mastery is like 6 times damage boost and fire mastery is like 4 times damage boost.
i'm assuming no facets or infinity.
cold is still insane despite the nerf to make it "more in line" with fire and light, it also still doesn't need infinity unless you just want to run p7 or something
Iirc -res after sunder has 1/5th diminishing returns ie infinity and the -85% enemy res becomes -17% against immunes
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Ofc with the best gear and skillets it’s still good. As a ladder starter though, with a 3K blizzard, it’s a lot slower against cold inmunes.
very true, I love skillets they make for some of the best breakfast meat!
cod sorcs still fine.. it just makes no sense when they put something like the new sin blades in the game and then nerf something when saying they are nerfing it to "bring it in line" the new sin solos ubers in under a minute... A MINUTE..... like wtf was the point of nerfing a fan fav build if your going to put some silly nonsense in the game like that
Yea to your point too the mosaic sin makes infinity Wielding spearzon look alot weaker too lol but yea they prob didn't need to nerf cold mastery esp for higher player counts and for ubering
This is the example of “worst case scenario” in WSK, snakes and souls hahahaha
I always run into stuff like that "archers with might and fanat with cursed" lol
Other night I ran into souls / beetles / revevant guys that res undead and i think I'd have died without my thundergods because of 4 or 5 boss packs just across tje brodge from the waypoint.
I always dual class my Sorc....fireball and orb...going to try it put tonight after work post patch and see what's up
@Weedknight 15k fireball and meteor is almost 30k and orb does it's job...I do good so can't complain...and of course energy shield...maybe weak for everyone else but not me and never has been since D2
dual spec is weak on paper, HOWEVER it can do more effective damage to enemies high in res to a specific element thus making it stronger in use depending where you use it
Cold sorc is still very strong. I have no trouble farming with her. And she's not optimizated for damage. 500+ MF, zero skiller charms, no CTA. No crazy weapon swap pre buff needed. 1 cold sunder and max cold master is all you need.
I think especially on players one I could definitely probably switch out a bunch of skillers for some mf charms and gold find charms and benefit more
i run blizz sorc with df nightveil n ormus 3 blizz against immunes have a little bit struggle but i noticed that if you use a doom with a decent roll of negative cold 54-60 you melt everything plus you have a holy freeze for more safety
Can you please list all your gear for your Doom cold sorc? Thanks mate
Might be time for a 20/20 jmod
Hey, amazing content, how do you configure the mini map to be shown in the left corner ? Thanks in advance
thank you! It's inside the options/gameplay/automap you can also adjust the transparency and a few other things I did it like this because I was so used to the call of duty minimap LOL
I almost missed a Stormshield like this 3:16
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So is FB sorc superior now? I run 3 piece tals orb/flickering flame/and phx shield. With facets in orb and armor I’m at -66 enemy fire. Only at 80 fcr unfortunately. Idk if infinity on merc would b better but I’m using prayer merc with insight for the stacking passive healing so I don’t worry about blood mana curse.
Cure is amazing for the curses (not sure if your non ladder though) but Infinity definitely makes a bigger difference on the fire and the lightning sorc in terms of overall playability and power
@@dartlingaming yea I’m non ladder so in 3-6 months I’ll try cure. Assuming d4 doesn’t blow me away. No trading in it apparently so I doubt it’ll hold my attention. But I hope it will b great
a sorc with out statick field (or not using it) is like a barb without BO? like a necro with out CE
Yeah I def messed up forgetting that 1 point, I re specd and added that and decided to go Max blizzard instead of what I had here and use ormus the blizz is like 14k but now without the orb i feel blizzard missing that much more compared to when shotgunning them with orbs after blizz
i have a ormus with 15 to cold otherwise i have the same build and i love it
hi did you buy that death fathom today? i just sold a -33/-5 faceted one to someone today 😃
naw I found this mid last season or so in terrorized travincal
I've been playing my cold sorc as bliz/orb with only a single point in cold mastery. I got infinity on the merc so with plus skills non immunes go down easily. At 92 and can p7 TZ in my mf gear. Plan to have a max damage setup with doom to take care of cold immunes.
I def think with the right gear cold sorc is probably the best all things considered it doesn't seem to be as gear dependent as fire or lightning sorc (I think cold mastery is still very strong and could only imagine if light or fire mastery gave -res and how broken that would be)
@@dartlingaming cold mastery is still insane against non-cold immunes
With my build all non-immunes are already at -100 cold res so investing more points into cold mastery doesn't seem worth it. An additional 19 skills for -19 for immunes isn't nothing but think it's not a good trade for the gameplay of having orb for higher damage.
She’s fine as is
I think so too, no problem for me as far as running any content in game even cold immunes
I personally have never been a fan of pure blizzard. Ive always liked FO better as a point and shoot skill. I like how you use other cold skills mixed in, that seems more playable than the blizzard style. Also, static is too good not to use! Strongest skill in the game!
I respecced to blizzard after this and boy does it miss a ton even though 14k dmg, without frozen orb the build feels WAAY less playable and more rng in terms of relying on blizzard, also didn't forget my 1 point in static this time that's too crucial to forget
@@dartlingaming Haha I think the missing is what turned me off on blizzard way back in LOD. I also just didn't like that I had to cast and hope that the guys walked through the blizzard. Which is why I went the FO route. BUT to each their own right! Static! yes
@@smalps-gaming glacial first, then blizzard, tele stomping on mobs is fun with blizzard. I hated blizzard before I got good at utilizing it. Frostnova works too, just don't like the animation time.
Finally the build got the nerf hammer. Should have been done years ago. All played blizzard and it's so boring to play. I feel like a lot players missed a lot fun in diablo 2 because they didn't play anything else than blizzard. The game is now in the best stage ever with a lot fun build options. And sad to see crying over cold nerf. It was needed...
I think ppl will really b mad if they do it to hammerdin
You arent suppose to nerf the build if you want them to play other ones. You just gotta buff the others
So, according to you, they should nerf Hdin then?
you need cure helm for merc
Why the Flickering Flame on the merc?
Just for some extra fire res I prob don't need it though
? eni for a sorc
Just because I was out of tokens and didn't have enough strength for the monarch
blizzard nerf blizzard
mosaic assasin doesn't even need a merc or enigma, never have to use a mana pot 35k damage use hustle shako , 2x mosaic sws mara bk raven 3/20 gloves few ma skillers. absolutely shreds player 8 cows. so fun dude you gotta try it.
I am going for that on my sin this ladder, I think it's currently way more fun than any other ma sin, I was trying chaos and plague, but constantly re gatering charges can get tedious
It looks like non ladder to me
Yeah it is non ladder but the patch still applies
@@dartlingaming yes but way more noticeable on ladder I had to switch to nova with crescent moon
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