Finally someone who recognizes that you get what you paid for. I've seen so many reviews praising the Royal Enfield's and comparing them to a Triumph T100's & T120'S but they aren't completely honest - the Royal Enfield may be a nice bike for the price, but they are not on the same level with a Triumph. Truth: T120 > T100 > Royal Enfield 650 = All great bikes - buy the one you can afford.
I just love these comparisons. You guys love T120. Other guy says that he actually prefers the 5 gears 900cc engine, because gears are more spread/longer/taller, so you don't have to change them so often. Smaller engine needs less fuel, with the same tank it equals longer reach. Single break disc means less weight of the wheel, less gyroscope effect equals easier handling. And as of late august 2023 T100 costs 9600£ and T120 costs 11800£, so its 2200£ difference, which is kinda a lot.
Hi Sam, Great video. Last week I purchased a T120 orange/grey just like the bike you test rode! In the US there is a 1750 dollar difference, but with Triumph's seasonal discounts right now, you get an extra 250 more off on the T120 than the T100. So for 1500 dollars the heated grips, center stand (essential for cleaning and lubing chains) dual disc front brake, 6 speed and bigger engine it was an easy choice. Also better headlight, dual riding modes, chrome valve cover (compared to black on the T100), rear grab rail, and faux carburetors (None on the T100) make it a better looking bike in my opinion. The T120 may be heavier, but with the bigger engine, extra gear, center stand and extra disc brake, almost all of that weight is down low on the bike making it easy to control.
Fantastic! Congratulations on the new bike! I agree with you! It seems like an obvious option, the T120 has so much more to offer for not a lot of difference in price, plus having those additional benefits means you're less likely to want a change! Thanks for watching
I have a 2018 T120 that I bought after testing just about everything under the sun, including options far more expensive. The first time I rode it, I was immediately smitten with its perfect balance of character and refinement, a feeling that never diminished as I tried alternatives. Now, with several seasons with the Bonnie under my belt, I couldn't be happier. Any bike is fun fast, including this one, but the T120 also makes leisurely cruises a pure joy. I've thought about buying another bike, but I'd never sell this one.
Well done and very informative. I have a BMW R1200GS Adventure and wanted a more “day to day” bike and was torn between the T120 & T100. The T120 won out for all the reasons you mentioned and I couldn’t be happier. Got rid of the “pea shooters” and fitted British Custom Predators and what a beautiful deep sound they make. We’re coming into summer here in Australia so hopefully, COVID permitting, will get some riding in. Looking forward to more of your videos. Stay safe.
Fantastic to hear! Glad you're happy with the bike, seems like such a great choice for a weekend toy! Can't wait to get out in the summer (Hopefully!). Thank you for watching!
I’ve just bought a T120 getting it this week your video has confirmed I’ve made a good choice and I’m getting the same colour as the one you guys were riding
Congratulations on the new bike! You won't be disappointed. At first the orange was a bit much for me but towards the end of the ride I loved it. Really stands out
I'm a new rider who bought a T100 without ever riding a motorcycle in my life (can you say midlife crisis??) and had to have a friend drive it home for me. Been riding for 1.5 years and have no intention of upgrading. I LOVE THIS MACHINE and I feel very comfortable on it. Dont want anything bigger or smaller. She is jussssst right!
Hi Nick, Glad I saw ur comment cause I m planning on doing the same thing you did! Never ridden a bike before and in love with the T100. Lemme know a few pointers for a first time bike owner. Did you upgrade on the accessories when you brought it? Which ones would you advise? Cheers!
I have an 865 Bonnie,as you say could do with sixth gear but you can drop the front sprocket down a tooth which is what i'm going to do, have put progressive front springs on mine and has transformed the ride . rears next to complete. Torque is what makes it fun and easy to ride and of course looks cool too. Good video ,thanks
Great video, I am waiting to go and sit on one and see how it feels. I am 6' tall btw. It was funny seeing your wife having so much fun taking off on you once she got her turn on the 120. It wasn't hard to tell which one she liked the best.
Hopefully it should feel okay for your height. The 120 will feel a bit bigger between the legs so I'd guess that would be a better option! Haha she had a great time and hasn't stopped going on about them! Thanks for watching!
@@SamVBikes Sam I had forgotten about this video. I couldn't let the Bonneville bug go and just closed the deal on a left over 2020 T120 in the orange black like you test rode. I am having them add the factory cruise control to the bike in the deal and have ordered a quick detachable windshield for it. I am really looking forward to my first ride on the 120.
Congratulations!!! Cracking bike, you will love it! Now you get the pleasure of emptying your wallet in fuel and accessories for it haha! Enjoy your new bike
I just picked up my Bonnie T120 in Baja Orange and Dark Grey....what an awesome bike. Update: having ridden 2600 miles on the bike this summer (mostly country roads) the experience has been fantastic. If I could change anything on the bike, I would have the handlebars sweep back a little bit towards the rider. I was in a shop yesterday where the owner had a 1965 Bonneville with original bars that were slightly raised and swept back and they looked perfect.
Hi ! I bought my T120 in June, 2019. Significantly better than the T100. Brakes are good on the T120. And super comfortable. Since changing the tyres to Metzeler Premium Road Tec01 the T120 handles significantly better. T120 mirrors i could not see behind apart from my arms. So changed to bar end mirrors. On tight twisties you need to exercise a bit of caution. Cant just chuck it around. For me I bought it for the looks only. As in classical. Had a few minor scratches which you could hardly see and they took 3000 bucks off. Auckland. NZ. John
Hi John! Glad to hear you're a fan of the T120! I did think a set of bar end mirrors would make a difference.. in both looks and usability! Its more of a relaxed enjoyable experience rather than a bike to ride to the limits, but I was surprised how much fun you could have on it!
Hi John, I find the standard tyres “white line” quite badly after about 2000mls, how are the Metzlers with regards to this? The same problem is there on the Battlax 45’s I put on to replace them!
@@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui Good morning to you NZ time Michael. Yes I find the Metzeler Road tec01 very very good. For me anyway, a significant improvement in the wet. Yes I can vouch for them . And by the way Michael, I have ordered the new 2022 Triumph Bonneville T120 Matt Black / Graphite. Shall be picking the bike up in early February 2022. Also this time I shall invest in high quality rear shocks as in YSS or Ohlins. And once the bike reaches its 2nd service interval, or before that, I shall get rid of the comps. And put Metzeler road tec 01 on. If you know any other improvements I can do, I am all ears. And yes bar end mirrors is a must for me as well. Auckland NZ
We’ll John, what a lucky geezer bloke! Good choice, cracking bike according to revues. I’ll take your advice on tyres and give the Metzlers a whirl! I picked up a 6month old t100 in 2017 for £6000! I love it, mind you it’s got a Tec cam and 2 into 1 exhaust plus power commander on it plus K&N so it’s got 65bhp and 60ft/lbs at the back wheel. Ktech rear suspension and front emulators etc. 6pot caliper front brake. All of this makes for a very happy bunnie!
I know this test ride was not long and so maybe tough to measure suspension and seat comfort . . . You made no comment on the rear suspension, so, I assume it was comfortable and not overly stiff? Some reviews have complained of "feeling" every bump from the rear shock, and, a less than comfortable seat? Thanks. Enjoyed the review,
You do tend to feel quite a bit through the suspension but then I'm used to riding bikes with stiffer suspension so may be the reason I didn't pick up on it as much as others. It wasn't overly stiff though. As for the seat, I had no issues with comfort at all. Some bikes you get off after an hour and can tell that you'd be somewhat sore after another hour, but that wasn't even a thought on this! Position is comfortable, seat had plenty of padding although not very sculpted. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video! I was still deciding each one should I take as my next bike. And since I live in Germany, and my commuting involves me taking the autobahn, I’ll definitely go with the 1200cc motor. Now I’ll decide between t120 and the speedmaster! 😅
I bought a new one in 2017 and still have it - the throttle is a little snatchy when the bikes are new alright but mine mellowed out nicely as the mileage went up - I think it has something to do with the factory set up to get it to comply with emissions. Its a bike that needs plenty of tlc though - no leaving it out in the rain even under a cover. The engine casings and all that chrome wheel spokes etc corrode easily if the bike is not molly coddled and garaged.
Good to know! I assumed it would be something to do with the factory set up. I'm sure when she gets one she will adore it haha! So hopefully it will stay well looked after
Coming to this review late, but enjoyable. I bought a 21 T100 and I am very happy with it. My brother has a '17 T120 and we swop around. I prefer the 900 engine and the lighter steering on the T100. In 21 the engines were revised with a slipper clutch. The throttle issue has gone away on the T120 as well. Comparing the '17 and '21 engines the latter is much improved. The T100 is the 14th motorcycle I have owned in 46 years of riding motorcycles and it is superb. You can pick any Bonneville you like and they are all lovely to ride. I paid the extra cash for cruise control, centre stand, a rear rack and paniers. However the 6th gear is the T120 superpower and the T120 can get better fuel economy at higher speeds because of it.
Amazing to hear from someone that gets to ride both relatively regularly too! Obviously this was only a test ride scenario so difficult to find out what you really do and don't like. I'd genuinely be happy owning either because they are such a pleasure to ride!
@@SamVBikes He also owns a 16 Street Twin with the 900 High Torque engine. The frame on that is too small for me, but it’s a lovely bike although he has had to replace the rear shocks on the twin and the T120 to improve the handling. The 21 bikes feel much better as soon as you sit in them. The suspension, frame and handling feel solid. They are only let down by the wandering Pirelli Phantoms fitted as standard.
Ahh thats interesting! Yes the street twins have always felt a little too small for me too. Maybe not small, but they almost feel fragile if you understand what I mean. Clearly they're not but that's the feeling I get! Haha don't get me started on manufacturers choosing bad tyres because they look good!
Holiday greetings from Toledo, Ohio. I have been teetering back and forth with the T100 or T120, and I have watched many, many, many videos and reviews between the two. I must say hands down, this video, with your explaining the riding differences the braking and other things you pointed out, it's clearly the T120 in my mind is the winner!! Now all I have to do is wait till spring!!! Thanks very much, be healthy, ride safely, and look twice!!! Toledo, 40° dry.
Riding them back to back really did show the differences and the T120 just seems like a more complete bike! Thank you for the comment and safe riding when you do get your very own!
Thank you Sam. You Sir have helped me clear my mind!! It's going to be the T120 all the way. We have a saying here in the states, "Look twice, to save a life" Ride safely and stay healthy! Toledo, 48° raining.
You get little snippets of her opinion throughout but all I shall say is she's currently saving her money for a T120! Haha! She much preferred the T120, felt more sure footed on the road, stronger brakes and more power! And more importantly.. comes with heated grips!
I agree! I was very skeptical with the power, but to be honest, the torque makes up for it! Its got plenty for cruising around, overtakes and back road blasts
I hate it when people on you tube try to push off underpowered bike on new riders. In 2 months of riding, they are going to be stuck with that underpowered bike and regret not getting the T120. I think if you don't want to spend more money on the T120 get the T100, new rider or not.
I think that's a general rule of any advice to new riders. It's more forgiving. Same reason people recommend buying a 600 or smaller for your first track bike, so you can truelly learn your craft instead of getting thrown from it the first time you make a mistake. I was on an "underpowered" bike for 2 years and learnt more about my riding doing that than I would if you stuck me on my current super adventure. No reason you can jump on a bigger bike, but I'm sure 99% of experienced riders will agree, a smaller capacity, lighter bike will help you more
@@SamVBikes I been riding motorcycles since I was 8 years old on a Honda z50. Then move up to Yamaha 125 and finally a 250. I race motocross from 1975 until 1981 or so. Being a kid growing I had to start with a smaller bike. Maybe adult new riders should start with a less expensive bike then after 2 years as you say move up to expensive high-power bike like the Rocket G3 LOL or the 1200cc not to end up with a very expensive underpowered bike.
Both are great looking motorcycles. I didn't think I would like the all blsck T100, but it looks great. Yhr T120 is by far the better bike with the riding modes, heated grips, center stand, SIXTH GEAR and of course the 1200cc engine. I'm usually pretty tight with my money, but I think I'd have to go with the T120. Thank you for telling hte RPM's at highway speeds in top gear on both bikes. This means a lot to me and so many reviews do not tell the RPM's. Like I said, both are GREAT looking bikes.... and what a cutie (not the bike). You are a Blessed man. Both of you ride safe and enjoy every journey.
Haha very true! The T120 does make the most sense to go for. Even adding those extras onto the T100 makes the price difference even less! Haha! I'm taking that the cutie comment for myself haha! Ride safe too and thanks for watching!
i test rode both bikes t100's old and the new t100 and a t120 i preferred the t120 the engine , brakes and i felt part of the t120 and on the t100 i felt i sat on the bike if that makes any sense .
Nice! Very nice video. I see that your girl friend, she someone who knows what she wants 👏👏👏. I think that the T120 is a keeper and the T100 is the entry bike in the Bonneville family. If you’re beginning to ride bigger bikes the entry level is definitely by the T100. Otherwise, sooner than later, you’ll be looking for something above it, specially if you know there’s a T120 to do the up grade. Thanks for the video.
Hi Sam, just found this great comparison review, lovely bikes and I like the orange too. It's a shame triumph have moved away from such striking colours.
@@SamVBikes that's good to hear mate. I have just taken up astronomy so when the cloud clears I will check for planet alignments 😂 you deserve to have the channel really grow and earn some money from it, you obviously are putting the effort in.
Haha! If you see a shooting star, I'll have a lottery win too please mate 😂😂. Hoping I'll get to 1k subs in the next month or 2, then I can earn a few pence a month haha! Lucky I still enjoy it and the interaction! Will get there one day and do a few big meet ups!
@@SamVBikes I'll put you in the lottery win queue, it's a long one though 😂 it's ironic that I decided to take it up 1 month ago, got some binoculars and I only had a partially clear sky last Sunday night! It will be nice if you can get to the money stage, although I understand it pays for an occasional coffee, unless you get really big and attract advertising.
Haha! I'll take a queue.. the more queues you're in, the higher the chances right? Haha nice! I was going to say at least its cheaper than bikes, but I've seen the price of some of those telescopes. Would be lovely to get to the point where I could give up work and have it as a primary income, but a long way off yet! Few deals and some press bikes and I'll be a happy man!
A bike is designed to go from A to B , you can go anywhere on any bike, admittedly not hard off road, but trails tracks yes. I'm going from UK to Kosovo with 2012 Bonneville. Dont put a bikes into categories, that's what the manufacturers do so you have to buy a specific bike for a specific task. Enjoy whatever bike you have.
Definitely agree with you. You can essentially go anywhere on any bike. I only meant they aren't aimed at people who are looking to spend hours on the motorway (lack of wind protection etc). The old saying of judging a fish on its ability to climb a tree springs to mind. They are fantastic bikes and you can of course sit on motorways on them but I didn't want to criticise it based on something it wasn't specifically designed to excel at. Hope that makes sense! And enjoy your trip!
Not sure why I got this recommendation? But I'm actually wondering how they would feel now, after they upgraded the 2021 T100 so much? Although it's still a single front disc.
Not sure! Maybe I have pleased the algorithm gods somehow haha. I'm planning on getting on the new one as soon as I can. The update on paper should be a good improvement
@@SamVBikes Thanks for replying. Because I'm, as yet, unfamiliar with your channel, were you test riding them with a view to buying, or is it a bike review channel?
@@59jalex No problem. It's primarily a bike review/kit review channel. However, with these bikes, my partner is looking at buying herself one so wanted to compare/see which she preferred.
@@SamVBikes Cheers. As for me, I'm getting on now and I have a bit of a health issue. So I've been looking at the T100 or the Street Twin. Purely for less weight and the fact that I don't exceed the speed limits. Honestly Officer ;-) I'll have a bit of a mooch around your channel. All the best.
The T100 is still a cracking bike and I think if the new one is as good as it alludes to in the press, that will be ideal! Thanks for watching and let me know if you have any other questions
The Speedmaster is a lovely bike which I'd say is more of a cruiser. For the type of riding I personally would do on this bike, I'd save myself some money and get the T120. If you're looking for something more comfortable for longer journeys, Speedmaster
T120! The position is about the same on both but the extra weight of the 120 made it feel more planted on the road plus the extra power of the brakes gave her more confidence!
@@SamVBikes Thanks for the feedback. Do you all own either of these bikes? I am looking for a bike for fun myself. So many choices. I have test ridden so many different types. Hard to make up my mind. Last one I test road was a used Suzuki GSX-S1000 which was fun. Totally different experience/looks than the Triumphs. Think I would rather go the Triumph way but will have to test ride a T120.
Not yet! My girlfriend is saving up the money then will buy herself a T120. I've just bought myself a 2021 KTM superadventure as it does everything I need including the weekend blasts. These types of bikes are great as you can throw them around, but also look good cruising slow. I'd buy myself the R Nine T Sport if I was going to go this route. The only thing I find on bikes like the GSX-S, speed triple, tuono etc, is you end up going fast a lot! So unless you're on a track, you end up only ever going fast on it and not enjoying it for more relaxed rides if that makes sense. Its difficult to pick though! There are soo many to choose from.
@@SamVBikes I somehow ended up on your video again so I have to ask. Did you introduce your wife to riding? Vice versa? Or at the same time? How did it become a team event?
Haha! Feel free to watch as many times as you like!! Her grandad is a BIG biker, has a number of Harleys, so its always been in her life. But the fact that I ride convinced her to do her test. She had been pillion on my bike a few times and wanted to try it herself. Then once she had been on her 125cc, she was sold on it!
@@SamVBikes What I love about your video is how she left you in the dust towards the end playing with you.. My wife would be to scared (and is clutzy) to even think about riding. So I'm envious....LOL
Haha! Yes! I never felt so powerless! Try to get her on the back of the bike if you can. Build up her confidence then see if you can get her on a small bike! Once they feel the freedom of it, you will soon have a biker friend!
The Thruxton or the Street/speed triple? Ridden the street and speed triple (not the new one) and they are awesome machines. Havent ridden the Thruxton though.. its on my list of must rides! Will do a review when I do
Yeah T120 is more expensive than T100 here too. The power, heated grips, centre stand, etc all make it worthwhile in my opinion but worth riding them both to see what you think
Ah, racing through city traffic. Great way to compare motorcycles. Not. The T100 weighs 44 lbs less than the T120. How can that possibly make it feel "so much lighter"? I have a 2019 T120. The superior front brakes and center stand make it the best choice. The extra power is just an added bonus. ( The heated hand grips are WAY too warm, unless you're riding in the Arctic. )
I'd hardly say that was "racing through city traffic". Slow speed traffic through a busy town moving around traffic, motorways, and some back roads which is what I would use the bike for and I assume most people would do too. To me, the T100, riding them back to back, felt a substantial amount lighter... I'm not sure if that was down to fuel level or another factor but this was a first impressions ride. I mention a few times as to how I feel the T120 is the better option, with power, brakes, centre stand and a few other factors being mentioned. Appreciate your comment and opinion
The difference in weight is probably less than you and your girl and of course a more powerful bike is going to seem better but it depends if you spend most of your time riding in traffic around a city vs longer highway commutes
Yes of course! It did seem more noticeable. The 120 seemed to be smoother and more sure-footed in the corners, but it could have had more fuel in the tank which could have been the weight. Like you say, depends on your riding
I bought my T100 black with all the extras in 2014, I hated it because of the road legal pipes. I put, not for road use pipes on it and loved it. I find the rubbish quality of the metals they use on spokes and chrome work beggars belief. Honestly, I love my bike and I owned a GPX ninja before it, but that was a licence looser. They didn't make a T120 at the time but honestly I don't think I would have bought one anyway. I still own my T100 and I have an electric car so compared to a T120 user I'm probably carbon neutral-ish. I've watched this argument about bigger is better and as you can see I come down on the side of less is more. Honest opinion, I don't think I would buy a Triumph again because of the shoddy materials. Try this, leave it parked outside your girlfriends for a week in all the weather and see how much work you have to put into it to return it back to top condition. Shoddy at best Triumph.
Really good to hear your experience. You expect better from a premium manufacturer like Triumph/BMW etc so its a shame the spokes etc don't hold up. I suppose it happens to a lot of bikes left outside but you expect better when you're paying for a premium branded product. Glad you still love the bike though!
@@SamVBikes I did , and kept the stock pipes , it sounds and performs amazing ! I bought the t120 Ace cafe London edition , I love it more than my woman I think lol 😝
geez .... do yourself a favor and keep these reviews and outings for yourself mate .... painful to listen to ..... T100 not as good as T120 .. really .... no fucking kidding ?!
The best comparison video between t100 , t120 on RUclips
Haha thank you! Appreciate the kind words
Finally someone who recognizes that you get what you paid for. I've seen so many reviews praising the Royal Enfield's and comparing them to a Triumph T100's & T120'S but they aren't completely honest - the Royal Enfield may be a nice bike for the price, but they are not on the same level with a Triumph.
Truth: T120 > T100 > Royal Enfield 650 = All great bikes - buy the one you can afford.
Couldn't agree more! The Royal Enfields are great for the price.. but they don't feel anywhere near complete enough!
Nice words 👍👍
I have this exact T120 ! Such nice ride. I love that I can cruise at such low rev's but when you want it to move, it moves!
It's such a cracking bike! So grunty and puts a smile on your face every time
I just love these comparisons. You guys love T120. Other guy says that he actually prefers the 5 gears 900cc engine, because gears are more spread/longer/taller, so you don't have to change them so often. Smaller engine needs less fuel, with the same tank it equals longer reach. Single break disc means less weight of the wheel, less gyroscope effect equals easier handling. And as of late august 2023 T100 costs 9600£ and T120 costs 11800£, so its 2200£ difference, which is kinda a lot.
All valid points about t100 but just think t120 is awesome!
it is so nice to see the 120 looking and sounding so good , and when emma started to relax and enjoy the bike it just made the video.
It's great isn't it! She's already started saving up to buy one haha
Nice review. I bought a T120 as my first motorcycle in mid-October and absolutely love it.
Congratulations on the new bike!
Congratulations
@@SamVBikes Thanks
@@hammerheadcycle3097 how do you find it as a first bike?
@@sharifela7993 It's great. I did a video on my channel describing it.
Hi Sam, Great video. Last week I purchased a T120 orange/grey just like the bike you test rode! In the US there is a 1750 dollar difference, but with Triumph's seasonal discounts right now, you get an extra 250 more off on the T120 than the T100. So for 1500 dollars the heated grips, center stand (essential for cleaning and lubing chains) dual disc front brake, 6 speed and bigger engine it was an easy choice. Also better headlight, dual riding modes, chrome valve cover (compared to black on the T100), rear grab rail, and faux carburetors (None on the T100) make it a better looking bike in my opinion. The T120 may be heavier, but with the bigger engine, extra gear, center stand and extra disc brake, almost all of that weight is down low on the bike making it easy to control.
Fantastic! Congratulations on the new bike! I agree with you! It seems like an obvious option, the T120 has so much more to offer for not a lot of difference in price, plus having those additional benefits means you're less likely to want a change!
Thanks for watching
I have a 2018 T120 that I bought after testing just about everything under the sun, including options far more expensive. The first time I rode it, I was immediately smitten with its perfect balance of character and refinement, a feeling that never diminished as I tried alternatives. Now, with several seasons with the Bonnie under my belt, I couldn't be happier. Any bike is fun fast, including this one, but the T120 also makes leisurely cruises a pure joy. I've thought about buying another bike, but I'd never sell this one.
It's great to hear that you're happy with it! It seems like such a great bike in every respect. So much fun and comfortable too!
Well done and very informative. I have a BMW R1200GS Adventure and wanted a more “day to day” bike and was torn between the T120 & T100. The T120 won out for all the reasons you mentioned and I couldn’t be happier. Got rid of the “pea shooters” and fitted British Custom Predators and what a beautiful deep sound they make. We’re coming into summer here in Australia so hopefully, COVID permitting, will get some riding in. Looking forward to more of your videos. Stay safe.
Fantastic to hear! Glad you're happy with the bike, seems like such a great choice for a weekend toy! Can't wait to get out in the summer (Hopefully!). Thank you for watching!
I’ve just bought a T120 getting it this week your video has confirmed I’ve made a good choice and I’m getting the same colour as the one you guys were riding
Congratulations on the new bike! You won't be disappointed. At first the orange was a bit much for me but towards the end of the ride I loved it. Really stands out
I'm a new rider who bought a T100 without ever riding a motorcycle in my life (can you say midlife crisis??) and had to have a friend drive it home for me. Been riding for 1.5 years and have no intention of upgrading. I LOVE THIS MACHINE and I feel very comfortable on it. Dont want anything bigger or smaller. She is jussssst right!
Great to hear Nick! They are great bikes. So light and nimble and that exhaust sound is addictive haha. Thanks for watching!
Hi Nick,
Glad I saw ur comment cause I m planning on doing the same thing you did! Never ridden a bike before and in love with the T100.
Lemme know a few pointers for a first time bike owner. Did you upgrade on the accessories when you brought it? Which ones would you advise? Cheers!
Great video, that was so cool when Emma dropped it down and pulled away 👊🏼👌🏼
Haha! Thanks! I was surprised she did it, made me proud!
Lovely to see the T120 from "off" the bike! Nice comparison.....
Thanks! I love seeing it from a 3rd person view too!
I have an 865 Bonnie,as you say could do with sixth gear but you can drop the front sprocket down a tooth which is what i'm going to do, have put progressive front springs on mine and has transformed the ride . rears next to complete. Torque is what makes it fun and easy to ride and of course looks cool too. Good video ,thanks
Its a great bike and I think those upgrades would make a massive difference! Even on the T100, I was having so much fun! Thanks for watching
I have a 2018 Triumph Bonneville T 120 love riding the bike.
Great to hear! I reckon its probably the perfect weekend bike!
Great video, I am waiting to go and sit on one and see how it feels. I am 6' tall btw. It was funny seeing your wife having so much fun taking off on you once she got her turn on the 120. It wasn't hard to tell which one she liked the best.
Hopefully it should feel okay for your height. The 120 will feel a bit bigger between the legs so I'd guess that would be a better option! Haha she had a great time and hasn't stopped going on about them! Thanks for watching!
@@SamVBikes Sam I had forgotten about this video. I couldn't let the Bonneville bug go and just closed the deal on a left over 2020 T120 in the orange black like you test rode. I am having them add the factory cruise control to the bike in the deal and have ordered a quick detachable windshield for it. I am really looking forward to my first ride on the 120.
Congratulations!!! Cracking bike, you will love it! Now you get the pleasure of emptying your wallet in fuel and accessories for it haha! Enjoy your new bike
I just picked up my Bonnie T120 in Baja Orange and Dark Grey....what an awesome bike. Update: having ridden 2600 miles on the bike this summer (mostly country roads) the experience has been fantastic. If I could change anything on the bike, I would have the handlebars sweep back a little bit towards the rider. I was in a shop yesterday where the owner had a 1965 Bonneville with original bars that were slightly raised and swept back and they looked perfect.
AHH Congratulations!!! Cracking bike! You will love it!
What I'm trying to figure out is if you're wearing a jacket or if you're simply a naturally vascular individual 🤔. Great video and awesome bike btw!
Haha! I'll take either! Thank you! It was a cracking bike! Really enjoyed it
Hi ! I bought my T120 in June, 2019. Significantly better than the T100. Brakes are good on the T120. And super comfortable. Since changing the tyres to Metzeler Premium Road Tec01 the T120 handles significantly better.
T120 mirrors i could not see behind apart from my arms. So changed to bar end mirrors.
On tight twisties you need to exercise a bit of caution. Cant just chuck it around.
For me I bought it for the looks only. As in classical. Had a few minor scratches which you could hardly see and they took 3000 bucks off.
Auckland. NZ. John
Hi John! Glad to hear you're a fan of the T120! I did think a set of bar end mirrors would make a difference.. in both looks and usability! Its more of a relaxed enjoyable experience rather than a bike to ride to the limits, but I was surprised how much fun you could have on it!
Hi John, I find the standard tyres “white line” quite badly after about 2000mls, how are the Metzlers with regards to this? The same problem is there on the Battlax 45’s I put on to replace them!
@@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui Good morning to you NZ time Michael. Yes I find the Metzeler Road tec01 very very good. For me anyway, a significant improvement in the wet. Yes I can vouch for them . And by the way Michael, I have ordered the new 2022 Triumph Bonneville T120 Matt Black / Graphite. Shall be picking the bike up in early February 2022.
Also this time I shall invest in high quality rear shocks as in YSS or Ohlins. And once the bike reaches its 2nd service interval, or before that, I shall get rid of the comps. And put Metzeler road tec 01 on.
If you know any other improvements I can do, I am all ears. And yes bar end mirrors is a must for me as well.
Auckland NZ
We’ll John, what a lucky geezer bloke! Good choice, cracking bike according to revues. I’ll take your advice on tyres and give the Metzlers a whirl!
I picked up a 6month old t100 in 2017 for £6000! I love it, mind you it’s got a Tec cam and 2 into 1 exhaust plus power commander on it plus K&N so it’s got 65bhp and 60ft/lbs at the back wheel. Ktech rear suspension and front emulators etc. 6pot caliper front brake. All of this makes for a very happy bunnie!
I know this test ride was not long and so maybe tough to measure suspension and seat comfort . . . You made no comment on the rear suspension, so, I assume it was comfortable and not overly stiff? Some reviews have complained of "feeling" every bump from the rear shock, and, a less than comfortable seat? Thanks. Enjoyed the review,
You do tend to feel quite a bit through the suspension but then I'm used to riding bikes with stiffer suspension so may be the reason I didn't pick up on it as much as others. It wasn't overly stiff though. As for the seat, I had no issues with comfort at all. Some bikes you get off after an hour and can tell that you'd be somewhat sore after another hour, but that wasn't even a thought on this! Position is comfortable, seat had plenty of padding although not very sculpted. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video!
I was still deciding each one should I take as my next bike.
And since I live in Germany, and my commuting involves me taking the autobahn, I’ll definitely go with the 1200cc motor.
Now I’ll decide between t120 and the speedmaster! 😅
I bought a new one in 2017 and still have it - the throttle is a little snatchy when the bikes are new alright but mine mellowed out nicely as the mileage went up - I think it has something to do with the factory set up to get it to comply with emissions. Its a bike that needs plenty of tlc though - no leaving it out in the rain even under a cover. The engine casings and all that chrome wheel spokes etc corrode easily if the bike is not molly coddled and garaged.
Good to know! I assumed it would be something to do with the factory set up. I'm sure when she gets one she will adore it haha! So hopefully it will stay well looked after
T100 for me is perfect for the way i wanna use it, more relax easy riding. I'll ride my other bike if i feel like riding a bit more aggressive.
Ahh yeah that would be perfect if you have another bike. It's such a pleasure to ride!
Coming to this review late, but enjoyable. I bought a 21 T100 and I am very happy with it. My brother has a '17 T120 and we swop around. I prefer the 900 engine and the lighter steering on the T100. In 21 the engines were revised with a slipper clutch. The throttle issue has gone away on the T120 as well. Comparing the '17 and '21 engines the latter is much improved. The T100 is the 14th motorcycle I have owned in 46 years of riding motorcycles and it is superb. You can pick any Bonneville you like and they are all lovely to ride. I paid the extra cash for cruise control, centre stand, a rear rack and paniers. However the 6th gear is the T120 superpower and the T120 can get better fuel economy at higher speeds because of it.
Amazing to hear from someone that gets to ride both relatively regularly too! Obviously this was only a test ride scenario so difficult to find out what you really do and don't like. I'd genuinely be happy owning either because they are such a pleasure to ride!
@@SamVBikes He also owns a 16 Street Twin with the 900 High Torque engine. The frame on that is too small for me, but it’s a lovely bike although he has had to replace the rear shocks on the twin and the T120 to improve the handling. The 21 bikes feel much better as soon as you sit in them. The suspension, frame and handling feel solid. They are only let down by the wandering Pirelli Phantoms fitted as standard.
Ahh thats interesting! Yes the street twins have always felt a little too small for me too. Maybe not small, but they almost feel fragile if you understand what I mean. Clearly they're not but that's the feeling I get!
Haha don't get me started on manufacturers choosing bad tyres because they look good!
That's my T120, complete down to the paint job! How'd it get over there? I love it, by tbe way.
Haha! Sorry if I burnt through the tyres too much! It's a cracking bike isn't it! My other half is in love!
Haha I just closed the deal on a black/orange one as well. :)
Holiday greetings from Toledo, Ohio. I have been teetering back and forth with the T100 or T120, and I have watched many, many, many videos and reviews between the two. I must say hands down, this video, with your explaining the riding differences the braking and other things you pointed out, it's clearly the T120 in my mind is the winner!! Now all I have to do is wait till spring!!! Thanks very much, be healthy, ride safely, and look twice!!! Toledo, 40° dry.
Riding them back to back really did show the differences and the T120 just seems like a more complete bike! Thank you for the comment and safe riding when you do get your very own!
Thank you Sam. You Sir have helped me clear my mind!! It's going to be the T120 all the way. We have a saying here in the states, "Look twice, to save a life" Ride safely and stay healthy! Toledo, 48° raining.
Great to hear!! And love the saying, hopefully it helps! Take care
I’d like to hear Emma’s opinion as well.
You get little snippets of her opinion throughout but all I shall say is she's currently saving her money for a T120! Haha!
She much preferred the T120, felt more sure footed on the road, stronger brakes and more power! And more importantly.. comes with heated grips!
Good to see and hear you both enjoying the Bonneville’s. That’s what motorcycling’s all about !
A great video, watched it a few times 👍
Thank you! Agreed! They were cracking bikes and I doubt it will be too long before one appears In the garage! Safe riding!
Brilliant comparison video. Great to see your lady is an avid rider, and I'm sure she would love that T120.
Thank you! She's currently saving her money for one haha
Awesome review Sam it’s great to see you both swapping bikes I’m definitely having the T120😎👌😀
Thank you! Yes that's definitely the way I'd go too! Little bit more money but it makes so much more sense
Nice was looking at the T100. But the T120. Think you have convinced me 🥂🥂
Haha! It's worth the extra 💷
The original T120 was a 650cc motorcycle, and I'm pretty sure that it would thrash that thing. How do you get so little power from such a big engine.
I agree! I was very skeptical with the power, but to be honest, the torque makes up for it! Its got plenty for cruising around, overtakes and back road blasts
The same way you get such a high torque at such a low rpm...
Liked the video as i have just bought a new T120 black.
Congratulations on the new bike! Hopefully you'll get a few good rides in before the weather gets worse!
@@SamVBikes
Thanks got to wait till 24th to get it.
Then start to personalise it a bit 👍
Not going to lie... I'm jealous haha! Love a new bike!
I hate it when people on you tube try to push off underpowered bike on new riders. In 2 months of riding, they are going to be stuck with that underpowered bike and regret not getting the T120. I think if you don't want to spend more money on the T120 get the T100, new rider or not.
I think that's a general rule of any advice to new riders. It's more forgiving. Same reason people recommend buying a 600 or smaller for your first track bike, so you can truelly learn your craft instead of getting thrown from it the first time you make a mistake. I was on an "underpowered" bike for 2 years and learnt more about my riding doing that than I would if you stuck me on my current super adventure. No reason you can jump on a bigger bike, but I'm sure 99% of experienced riders will agree, a smaller capacity, lighter bike will help you more
@@SamVBikes I been riding motorcycles since I was 8 years old on a Honda z50. Then move up to Yamaha 125 and finally a 250. I race motocross from 1975 until 1981 or so. Being a kid growing I had to start with a smaller bike. Maybe adult new riders should start with a less expensive bike then after 2 years as you say move up to expensive high-power bike like the Rocket G3 LOL or the 1200cc not to end up with a very expensive underpowered bike.
Both are great looking motorcycles. I didn't think I would like the all blsck T100, but it looks great. Yhr T120 is by far the better bike with the riding modes, heated grips, center stand, SIXTH GEAR and of course the 1200cc engine. I'm usually pretty tight with my money, but I think I'd have to go with the T120. Thank you for telling hte RPM's at highway speeds in top gear on both bikes. This means a lot to me and so many reviews do not tell the RPM's. Like I said, both are GREAT looking bikes.... and what a cutie (not the bike). You are a Blessed man. Both of you ride safe and enjoy every journey.
Haha very true! The T120 does make the most sense to go for. Even adding those extras onto the T100 makes the price difference even less! Haha! I'm taking that the cutie comment for myself haha! Ride safe too and thanks for watching!
Stick around and stay tuned. Now where’ve I heard that before ?
Haha... every other RUclips channel!
Nice to see a direct comparison
Great and informative comparison review
Thank you!
this is the kind of comparisment i was looking for, thank you very much, T120 it is than
No problem! Glad It helped make your mind up! I'll be jealous when yours turns up!
I'm so attracted to the t120 if the t100 came with a dual brakes I'd snag. I hope to pick one up soon 🤞
Those twin front brakes make all the difference! Definitely more confidence inspiring!
i test rode both bikes t100's old and the new t100 and a t120 i preferred the t120 the engine , brakes and i felt part of the t120 and on the t100 i felt i sat on the bike if that makes any sense .
I agree! There's just a bit more size with the 120. Also makes it feel more planted in the corners I feel
A good fun review of the two bikes.
But have Triumph fix the gearbox gremlins yet ?
Thats a good question! Only found out about that after I had posted this video
I was wondering which to go for. I'm sold on the T120 thanks to E :-)
You will love it!
I test rode them both... I bought the T120.
Good choice!
Nice! Very nice video. I see that your girl friend, she someone who knows what she wants 👏👏👏.
I think that the T120 is a keeper and the T100 is the entry bike in the Bonneville family. If you’re beginning to ride bigger bikes the entry level is definitely by the T100. Otherwise, sooner than later, you’ll be looking for something above it, specially if you know there’s a T120 to do the up grade. Thanks for the video.
Definitely agree! The T120 offers much more and is a bike you'll be happier with for longer! Thanks for watching!
Awesome review guys and thanks for sharing big love from Australia 😊😊😊
Thank you for watching!!
I haven't seen this video in quite a while and yes, I came back to see Emma. She's so cool and I hope you're still together! Tell her I said hi!😂
Haha she will love that! We have bought a house together and she's nagging me for kids, but I'm more interested in buying more toys 😂
@@SamVBikes This is advice from a man that's been married 34 years. You have to keep her happy so you make a deal. You get 2 bikes for each child!
Haha sounds like good advice... although one question...Only 2? 😂😂
@@SamVBikes You have to start slow. That's your beginning offer! 🤣😂
Then whilst she's brewing the first child... buy 3 more bikes and follow with the statement "the deal starts when each child is born"
2021 t100 they made a number of improvements - brembo front, easier clutch, Engine upgrades bumping it 10 hp and revs up faster
Cheers mate
USA
Yes that made a massive improvement! Makes them far more competitive too! Safe riding and thanks for watching!
179 likes dam this one was good! 👌👌
A/C standard on all models?
Hi Sam, just found this great comparison review, lovely bikes and I like the orange too. It's a shame triumph have moved away from such striking colours.
Had a few comments on this one today! Maybe I'm finally pleasing the algorithm gods haha! It definitely is a shame, but such great bikes!
@@SamVBikes that's good to hear mate. I have just taken up astronomy so when the cloud clears I will check for planet alignments 😂 you deserve to have the channel really grow and earn some money from it, you obviously are putting the effort in.
Haha! If you see a shooting star, I'll have a lottery win too please mate 😂😂. Hoping I'll get to 1k subs in the next month or 2, then I can earn a few pence a month haha! Lucky I still enjoy it and the interaction! Will get there one day and do a few big meet ups!
@@SamVBikes I'll put you in the lottery win queue, it's a long one though 😂 it's ironic that I decided to take it up 1 month ago, got some binoculars and I only had a partially clear sky last Sunday night! It will be nice if you can get to the money stage, although I understand it pays for an occasional coffee, unless you get really big and attract advertising.
Haha! I'll take a queue.. the more queues you're in, the higher the chances right? Haha nice! I was going to say at least its cheaper than bikes, but I've seen the price of some of those telescopes. Would be lovely to get to the point where I could give up work and have it as a primary income, but a long way off yet! Few deals and some press bikes and I'll be a happy man!
A bike is designed to go from A to B , you can go anywhere on any bike, admittedly not hard off road, but trails tracks yes.
I'm going from UK to Kosovo with 2012 Bonneville.
Dont put a bikes into categories, that's what the manufacturers do so you have to buy a specific bike for a specific task.
Enjoy whatever bike you have.
Definitely agree with you. You can essentially go anywhere on any bike. I only meant they aren't aimed at people who are looking to spend hours on the motorway (lack of wind protection etc). The old saying of judging a fish on its ability to climb a tree springs to mind. They are fantastic bikes and you can of course sit on motorways on them but I didn't want to criticise it based on something it wasn't specifically designed to excel at. Hope that makes sense! And enjoy your trip!
Great review thank you.
Why do the roads in England sometimes have those squiggly lines?
I think they mean overtaking is prohibited, but there are a few road markings that do that! Those zigzag looking ones are normally near schools etc
Not sure why I got this recommendation? But I'm actually wondering how they would feel now, after they upgraded the 2021 T100 so much? Although it's still a single front disc.
Not sure! Maybe I have pleased the algorithm gods somehow haha.
I'm planning on getting on the new one as soon as I can. The update on paper should be a good improvement
@@SamVBikes Thanks for replying. Because I'm, as yet, unfamiliar with your channel, were you test riding them with a view to buying, or is it a bike review channel?
@@59jalex No problem. It's primarily a bike review/kit review channel. However, with these bikes, my partner is looking at buying herself one so wanted to compare/see which she preferred.
@@SamVBikes Cheers. As for me, I'm getting on now and I have a bit of a health issue. So I've been looking at the T100 or the Street Twin. Purely for less weight and the fact that I don't exceed the speed limits. Honestly Officer ;-) I'll have a bit of a mooch around your channel. All the best.
The T100 is still a cracking bike and I think if the new one is as good as it alludes to in the press, that will be ideal! Thanks for watching and let me know if you have any other questions
t120 or triumph speedmaster?
The Speedmaster is a lovely bike which I'd say is more of a cruiser. For the type of riding I personally would do on this bike, I'd save myself some money and get the T120. If you're looking for something more comfortable for longer journeys, Speedmaster
Centre stand is option on 120s
It’s such a surprise that the t120 is faster than the t100.
Which one was she more comfortable?
T120! The position is about the same on both but the extra weight of the 120 made it feel more planted on the road plus the extra power of the brakes gave her more confidence!
@@SamVBikes Thanks for the feedback. Do you all own either of these bikes? I am looking for a bike for fun myself. So many choices. I have test ridden so many different types. Hard to make up my mind. Last one I test road was a used Suzuki GSX-S1000 which was fun. Totally different experience/looks than the Triumphs. Think I would rather go the Triumph way but will have to test ride a T120.
Not yet! My girlfriend is saving up the money then will buy herself a T120. I've just bought myself a 2021 KTM superadventure as it does everything I need including the weekend blasts. These types of bikes are great as you can throw them around, but also look good cruising slow. I'd buy myself the R Nine T Sport if I was going to go this route. The only thing I find on bikes like the GSX-S, speed triple, tuono etc, is you end up going fast a lot! So unless you're on a track, you end up only ever going fast on it and not enjoying it for more relaxed rides if that makes sense. Its difficult to pick though! There are soo many to choose from.
@@SamVBikes So true about the going too fast issue. Congrats on the Ktm. That’s a heck of a bike.
Just thinking there will always be that one day you run out of talent haha! Thank you very much, its an awesome bit of kit!
Your wife is cool as hell!
Haha she will be pleased you think so!
@@SamVBikes I somehow ended up on your video again so I have to ask. Did you introduce your wife to riding? Vice versa? Or at the same time? How did it become a team event?
Haha! Feel free to watch as many times as you like!!
Her grandad is a BIG biker, has a number of Harleys, so its always been in her life. But the fact that I ride convinced her to do her test. She had been pillion on my bike a few times and wanted to try it herself. Then once she had been on her 125cc, she was sold on it!
@@SamVBikes What I love about your video is how she left you in the dust towards the end playing with you.. My wife would be to scared (and is clutzy) to even think about riding. So I'm envious....LOL
Haha! Yes! I never felt so powerless! Try to get her on the back of the bike if you can. Build up her confidence then see if you can get her on a small bike! Once they feel the freedom of it, you will soon have a biker friend!
Awesome bike looking for one just now
Definitely! You won't be disappointed!
@@SamVBikes did you try the rs at all, would love to have them both
The Thruxton or the Street/speed triple?
Ridden the street and speed triple (not the new one) and they are awesome machines.
Havent ridden the Thruxton though.. its on my list of must rides! Will do a review when I do
@@SamVBikes sorry yes meant the thruxton
Its on the list! Stunning things aren't they!
I really don't understand these bike ride videos where we can't even see the bike.
More expensive here in US… worth the price here?
Yeah T120 is more expensive than T100 here too. The power, heated grips, centre stand, etc all make it worthwhile in my opinion but worth riding them both to see what you think
Ah, racing through city traffic. Great way to compare motorcycles. Not. The T100 weighs 44 lbs less than the T120. How can that possibly make it feel "so much lighter"? I have a 2019 T120. The superior front brakes and center stand make it the best choice. The extra power is just an added bonus. ( The heated hand grips are WAY too warm, unless you're riding in the Arctic. )
I'd hardly say that was "racing through city traffic". Slow speed traffic through a busy town moving around traffic, motorways, and some back roads which is what I would use the bike for and I assume most people would do too. To me, the T100, riding them back to back, felt a substantial amount lighter... I'm not sure if that was down to fuel level or another factor but this was a first impressions ride. I mention a few times as to how I feel the T120 is the better option, with power, brakes, centre stand and a few other factors being mentioned. Appreciate your comment and opinion
The difference in weight is probably less than you and your girl and of course a more powerful bike is going to seem better but it depends if you spend most of your time riding in traffic around a city vs longer highway commutes
Yes of course! It did seem more noticeable. The 120 seemed to be smoother and more sure-footed in the corners, but it could have had more fuel in the tank which could have been the weight. Like you say, depends on your riding
Thanks for the happy lass.
I bought my T100 black with all the extras in 2014, I hated it because of the road legal pipes. I put, not for road use pipes on it and loved it. I find the rubbish quality of the metals they use on spokes and chrome work beggars belief.
Honestly, I love my bike and I owned a GPX ninja before it, but that was a licence looser.
They didn't make a T120 at the time but honestly I don't think I would have bought one anyway. I still own my T100 and I have an electric car so compared to a T120 user I'm probably carbon neutral-ish.
I've watched this argument about bigger is better and as you can see I come down on the side of less is more.
Honest opinion, I don't think I would buy a Triumph again because of the shoddy materials.
Try this, leave it parked outside your girlfriends for a week in all the weather and see how much work you have to put into it to return it back to top condition.
Shoddy at best Triumph.
Really good to hear your experience. You expect better from a premium manufacturer like Triumph/BMW etc so its a shame the spokes etc don't hold up. I suppose it happens to a lot of bikes left outside but you expect better when you're paying for a premium branded product. Glad you still love the bike though!
sam you forgot to say the point that your girlfriend really look special hot on that bike :D nice video!
Haha she thinks so too! Thanks for watching
You think it has a lot of power now , remove the catalytic converter and put an X pipe in its place and get back to me😊👍
Haha! That would be the first thing I'd do if I bought one! Heard one with that mod and the Vance&Hines pipes...they sound incredible!!!
@@SamVBikes I did , and kept the stock pipes , it sounds and performs amazing ! I bought the t120 Ace cafe London edition , I love it more than my woman I think lol 😝
Haha I thought I was the only one!! They don't answer you back or shout at you for no reason so it's not a surprise!
@@SamVBikes lol yep 👍
T100 have 64 hp from 2021 forward
The misses is a peach 😅.
Girlfriend's cute 😍
Did this bloak just say poodle around? I'm out
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geez .... do yourself a favor and keep these reviews and outings for yourself mate .... painful to listen to ..... T100 not as good as T120 .. really .... no fucking kidding ?!