The Pointless Drake & Joe Budden Beef | @AskDEHH w/ Sophie
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- So glad that this so called beef was over when we got this question.
In this episode we address the making of this beef, why Drake responded to Meek Mill but basically ignored Joe Budden, blah, blah, blah, etc. Anyhow, enjoy!
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This conversation bumps in the whip.
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HAHAHAHA
feefo didn't know what to expect
this comment killed me
😂😂😂😂
RIP Kimbo Slice tho
RIP Harambe tho.
Rip David Bowie and Prince tho
RIP Phife Dawg tho
RIP Michael Jackson tho
RIP Tony Romo's back tho
Maaan, don't say "MFers in Africa know" like it's Mars. Shiiid, we know YOU, Myke Cizzle. It's 2016 bruh, my aunty in the village got 4G.
Drake keeps getting into beef with these small time rappers, yet when people like kendrick call him out he just hides from it.
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Joe Biden lyrical tho. That's why he hidin now
+Cam Newton yea but he isn't as mainstream, most people who like drake don't know him
When did Kendrick challange him?
Theres been a few songs where people have thought he's took a dig at Drake, I can't remember a song where he directly mentioned his name in a diss, maybe Control if you count that but I wouldn't really say its a diss.
Yeah nobody cared that Dr.dre didn't write his rhythms because nobody calls Dre the best Mc that's the problem with drake
also dre never claimed to write his own shit
Exactly. Dre never came out and said he's the best rapper in the game. Drake says it all the time.
It's mostly because he's a producer and he never tried to deceive anyone
For me, i don't care to much about who wrote his songs IF HE MAKE A FUCKING GOOD SONGS, the last album was so SHIT.. just give me 'if you reading this it's too late' again Nigga.
Ps: The Best Mc shit that he say, is Laaaameeee...
Alyson Lima if you feel that way than your not a rap fan and thats ok i respect it
True story, I haven't listened to any of the diss tracks yet. This beef was pointless from the jump for me.
There hasn't been a mainstream hip hop beef since Jay and Nas for me. All this stuff you see from drake is fake ass label shit
Dam bruh you sound so emotional.
+MONOAMETSI JUNIOR MOSEMENG was this supposed to be offensive or funny...I'm confused. Lol go ahead, give it another shot.
I vaguely knew they had problems but I didn't even know he made tracks lol.
U should listen to the first 2 regardless tho cuz they were straight fire
this is the most pointless beef ever
how was it pointless? drake subliminally dissed Joe,Joe was aware of the diss before it dropped to the public, so he took the initiative and dissed drake before he could release "no shopping".Joe just wanted to let drake know that he's not the one to play with.
No it's not. Anything to expose drakes dumbass
No Lil Durk & Tyga had the most pointless beef ever
No the most pointless beef ever is when B.o.B dissed Neil Degrass Tyson
+OG Nick Marsh (blackculturetv. com) Lil Durk vs. Tyga was hilarious lmao The Game jumped in out of nowhere and bodied Durk on the Chiraq beat. Had everyone saying "Who the fuck is Lil Durk?" for like 3 weeks.
Meek said Drake didn't write his raps...he proved it...Drake makes a song...that still doesn't change the fact that he didn't write his raps...Drake making a song wasn't relevant because it didn't change what Meek said
Exactly and its sad really. The culture of hip hop is dying
Exactly💯
preach
truth
But yet according to drake stans that shit doesn't matter they'll just say oh he's been on top for such and such years and has a lot more money lmao smh hip hop is really dying when drake and his stans are sucking the life out of hip hop
When you realize if joe budden was as big as drake......then all these disses would've ended drakes career.
Meek had a shot, took it and grazed drake only injuring drakes authenticity.
Joe Budden bullied drake with his diss tracks
Nobody fucking with Budden when it comes to diss records
Bars have never ended anyone’s career
why dont they just come together and be Jake
underrated comment holy fucking shit I'm crying
or Joke
Now look at how popular Joe is.
Migos Eminem Drake all dissing him these days.
YouYouYou!!! Artist Album Marathons lol right? When he retires
joe is only popular now since he's retired lol
And you know the funny thing. Pulling a drake on them now 😂
Yeah. But his content washed now
Lil B washed Joe with "T-Shirt and Buddens" back in 2010.
Best comment.
The song was better than I thought it would be that said it was still shit
King2084 yikes
***** care to elaborate
King2084 basedgod
Sophie just fine bruh...
True
with a pound of make up Maybe. .that nose tho
+tyranical constipation watch yo mouth
+Ajayi Jackson Dam
Y'all better stop talking bout my wife
ok.. Example... Did Kendrick Lamar ask for Shyne Po to tweet his album GKMC was trash... Nah.. what did Kendrick do? He responded by dropping the record called "Jig Is Up" .. Eventually Shyne Po back tracked and said Kendrick was dope... another example... Did Kendrick Lamar ask for Jay Electronica to diss him? nah.. He called Kendrick wack... Said he'd body Kendrick... What did Kendrick do? respond with Untitled 07 in the 2nd half of that song... all of a sudden.. Jay Electronica apologies to Kendrick..
Last example... when Kendrick lost to macklemore in 2014 no rappers really said anything.. But for some reason.. in 2016 French Montana out of all people saying.. They purposely gave Kendrick those awards trying to steer hip hop in a different direction.. But when Kendrick lost with GKMC.. Nobody said anything? Consistent hate Kendrick gets nobody has a problem with it.
now on to Drake.. Joe gave his opinion on Views.. Said Drake seemed uninspired with Views.. and many people would agree.. Drake even got caught using PND lines too on that album.. But drake responded to Joe on No Shopping.. He officially acknowledged him... Joe comes with bars and more bars... Drake dm's Joe 8 times according to Charlemagne tha god who said he saw the dm's... Drake says Fuck Joe Budden on stage .. But somehow Joe isn't worth his time after Joe brought those bars.. Then Drake avoids the whole situation by taking a pic with Eminem... Somebody tell me.. When did Joe Budden himself bring eminem into the situation..? So how did Joe take an L from 1pic with eminem and drake? You can't beat that fake fuck Aubrey Graham in this generation how people think.. So it is pointless
+Mr Give No Damn Calm down
+Mr Give No Damn you and others have to understand drake is a business man first before rapper
he's the lebron James of rap . what does that mean ??
he does not care how he gets his win nor does he cares about you & or every body's else opinions/feelings on how 'hip hop/NBA" suppose to be played.
drake goes after top notch guys with a following that's relevant
pusha T & budden are only known underground wise mostly their hit songs are decades ago .
Kendrick .big Sean.meek mill .diddy . etc hell even Tory lanez gets drake attention
that's where the attention & money is at
mostly nobody cares about drake vs Joe budden bruh only his core following does ,hip hop heads that dislikes drake & a small percent of hip hop fans in general.
+Mr Give No Damn the Eminem part ? that's you all forcing a beef just for your pleasure your own personal dislike for drake to happen
that's like asking Jordan go head to head with curry or lebron we all know who's going to win
but em & drake has no problems with each other so why start a high school he say shit for nothing ? "this generation etc "
everybody keeps saying this yet since when in hip hop do people start a false beef ? I thought beef starts naturally why are grown ass man on media trying to start drama ? females does that .
Drake is smart. There would be no benefit financially or reputation wise to entertain joe Budden In a rap beef. Joe looked dumb and looked like an obsessed fan. It was going to be a lose/lose situation for Drake no matter what because he's the biggest rapper in the world.
Soulja boy vs bow wow was a better beef than this!
That was a classic.
I just Checked her twitter and I didn't see anything.
+dibs0equiped thatbeef wasn't shit
Bow Wow talking shit with the sound effects is fucking classic lmaoooo that dude is such a clown
Lil Romeo vs Lil Bow Wow was better than this beef lol
An ask that can be revisited now!
"I got intros for DAYS!!" LMAO
I think Kendrick is the only rapper right now with the combination of popularity and bars to really beat up Drake right now. I don't like what Drake is doing, but objectively he's doing it right.
Agree
at the time Drake dissed Meek, Meek had the #1 album and he sold over 240k in his first week. Meek was very relevant at the time. Joe Budden will never be as musically relevant as Meek.
plus Meek started his beef, Drake started it with Joe after Joe gave "Views" a bad review.
I get what Kinge is saying. If Drake is going to be credited as a rapper, then his occupations list on Wikipedia and wherever else should have an asterisk next to rapper that says see below. eg
... Singer-songwriter, actor, *rapper
*did not meet the full criteria of being a fully fledged rapper: See Pusha T and Joe Budden beef
Sifiso Manyoni S.A.
"So he doesn't respect Meek Mill as a lyricist, as a rapper?" No, he probably doesn't. Does anyone respect Meek a lyricist or a rapper?
Yeah a lot of people. Theneedledrop too. He can spit but it's just his content that hurts his music. Almost nothing other than money bitches etc
+Ronald & Hip Hop i agree 💯💯💯
A lot of people do, I'm a fan of him. He's a great rapper, but not a great lyricist. It's a lot of songs that he's a lyricist on, but he doesn't pursue it as much.
Mardarrius Morgan yeah hes more into making really hype songs and hits
Ronald & Hip Hop Yeah I agree. But I just think he's one of most underrated artist in hip hop.
Drake had no choice but to go at meek cause he exposed his ass. He beat him at first but then he decided to kick a dead horse and drop summer 16 then meek retaliated with war pain, which was fire and better than summer 16 in my opinion. And it proved that drake had snitch in his crew. What should of been a win for drake turned into it being a 1-1 situation. Now it come down to the quality of their albums. Views was trash and nothing special from drake, and meek gotta lot to prove to everyone to show that he finished so we gone see. Dc4 in September
Preach💯
drake lost because he has a crew of writers not because Meek spit any bars.
+Sarah ok..
+Sarah L. Did you even listen to War Pain? He responded to Summer16 lyrics before it even came out , stop trying to dickride drake, he didn't even write summer16
it's not even close to 1-1 back to back bodied meek
The Drake & Eminem "beef" was fuelled by the internet 100%. No actual shit there.
I say you guys create a new segment. Make it just Ken. Sitting in a rocking chair with Al Green playing in the background while he talks about the glory days of hiphop.
Joe Budden is just trying to be relevant again while drake wants to stay relevant
Drake had his first #1 hit in his entire career and it stayed there for the majority of the summer. Don't think staying relevant is a big issue for him.
+Jay Romeo (Pour Out My Soul) still no classic album
Anthony Rose I'd argue Take Care is that, but opinions opinions. Besides, it hasn't been long enough for any of his albums to be considered that.
+Jay Romeo (Pour Out My Soul) take care was trash
Tyrese Fisher Like I said, opinions opinions
Jay Z was still getting at Joe during BP3
REMINDER, AWHHH
Bruhhhh Modest said if Kimbo called Ken a bitch ass nigga. Ken's face had me dead.
11:33 The liner notes of The Chronic show that Dre didn't write on a lot of songs he rapped on like Let Me Ride and G Thang, people would've known he didn't write when they bought the album
Mike ain't watched 92 yo mtv raps or the Dre interview on arsenio hall where Dre freely states he dosent write his own rhymes
I would have expected the DEHH cats to know Dre didn't write anything by the fact that Ice Cube said he wrote everything on "No Vaseline" and by the fact that every track had writer credits. You could hear it in his flow like Eminem's flow on the first track and Jay Z's flow clearly on "Still Dre." I was in high school and knew that. Who didn't know that?! Everyone knew back then that Dre and Puffy didn't write ANYTHING.
Kenneth Marshall I wasn't alive back then but I really don't see myself reading writing credits at that age in that climate.
I have this image of a bible salesman knocking on Kens's door saying, "have you heard the word about Dre?"
im always so happy when i see w/Sophie
lol Ken cracks me up. Appreciating all the content you guys putting out as of late, keep up the great work guys.
Joe destroyed drake lmao 🤣
99 percent high heels/sandals
0.3 percent boat shoes
0.3 percent timbs
0.3 percent Jordans
I completely forgot about that krs one and nelly beef
DO A CLASSIC ALBUM REVIEW SOON PLEASE
is it weird I think Sophie's hot, but I also think she looks a lot like Chance the Rapper?
Alexandre Avelar lol
This was a great conversation, I didn't even think much of the beef itself when it was taking place but this video still managed to capture my full interest
Myke made the BEST POINT ... Most of Drake fans are NOT HIP HOP FANS. They are just DRAKE FANS! Nice point Myke point👌🏾
Drake got exposed plain simple
+itzscorpionking lol so why he couldn't respond ????? maybe because Joe was too lyrical for me
he didn't get exposed . nigga Joe sounded like the average hater of drake on his songs . if he got exposed then drake would respond . what meek said was detrimental to his career . Drake won the battle which made up for it in the reality of people's eyes . you don't understand
+King$upreme lmaooo say what ???? I forgot Drake fans don't listen to lyrics or understand what lyrics are Meek mill was easy for drake because meek not lyrical
No
+itzscorpionking lol he got drake got 4-0
I 100% agree with Ken in this video. Am I wrong?
14:32 had me dying
We need more Dead End conversations
To believe that drake doesn't write anything is just plan stupid but to act like he does write it all nowadays would be pretty dumb also. I think drake does try to keep his name in the convos with his time stamp songs or his closer songs or intros etc... songs of that nature but when it comes to the cub shit he probably gets help i doubt it's someone who literally sits and writes everything and say here you go drake if anything i could see it as group thing of creation.
Exactly. It's ironic because you would think Drake would be capable of making sub par bars over trap beats but he gets help with those but the insightful bars are the ones he writes smh.
Wvlle ion know man it could be flows that help also even QM said that he's watch drake craft and pen his own songs but he has help craft flows with him too.
feefo is feelin himself 2 much
The point is Dre was a creator in some aspect of the artistic process thats why the blow of him not writing his raps wasnt as grand. He was the producer so in a sense the tracks were still him. Drake doesnt do shit, thats why he's illegitimate.
I knew from my brothers that Dre didn't write his own shit even back during the Chronic era. Even kids in my elementary school knew he didn't write his shit. It was very much common knowledge. Maybe not to southerners, though.
Pointless beef yet you made a 23 min video about it.
they're just answering a question that someone sent in
Still pointless. Lol.
word should of been 10min
Pedro De Leon How?
@@thebrilliantmrpedro typical drake fan trying to sweep this kind of stuff under the rug how is your favorite singer being bullied and punished pointless?
funny how only after we found out about the ghost writers you get all these ppl saying they "never" thought drake was a lyricist. nobody said that shit in 2010. gtfoh
Right!!!
Exactly! Trying to make excuses for dude being a Fraud! Drake = FRAUD
+Lance Moss nah my point was that when his 1st 2 albums came out he had a few haters for various reasons, but ppl were not hating on his (or whoevers) lyrics. ppl said he made songs that pandered to women, he was too emotional, etc. but not many ppl said he wasnt a dope mc. at the time you just couldn't make a serious argument against his albums(he did fall off hard to me since thwn tho)
Drake doesn't name the people he is "dissing".
Doesn't count. He couldn't handle an actual battle.
I believe "Everyday Struggle" ripped y'all off
sophie marry me girl!!!
Calm your thirst
Look at her twitter and think again about what you said
+Michael Stark Savage
I just had a glance through it Michael, I was so disgusted.
when y'all replacing ken
never
why would they do that? because he doesn't like the same rappers as you?
+Matt he does? damn no wonder this channel is trash
Lmaooooo , ken started DEHH tho
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this is exactly how Eminem toyed with Canibus throughout all his albums
If u listened to Canibus's albums and actually listened to his side canibus was toying with him lyrically shot after shot after shot after shot their vocab isn't even close canibus will rhyme 5 to 6 syllable words that actually rhyme eminem just bends the word to make it sound like it rhymes also back in that time emcees would actually respond to each other regardless of their status and your right this is sort of the same as their explaining in the video eminem is drake in this situation and canibus was joe budden on the lyrical side of things canibus is in a different weight class than eminem and eminem knew it
We all knew Dr. Dre didn't write his own lyrics on The Chronic. All you had to do was look inside the booklet for the song credits.
June Amarillo writing credits doesn’t automatically meant ghostwriters. It can be helps on hooks,helping with subject matter and content.
You guys need to review the new De La Soul tape, first album in 9 years.
Sophie with the comebaaaaaaaack! Lol
LMAO..."You been spewing, you all over tha damn place".....
Ya'll bugging everyone always knew Dre didnt write his shit even on the Chronic Myke, he had Snoops flow on Nuthin But a G Thang, and there was a reason his enemies never used it againt him cuz it was public knowledge
I used to be a firm believer that the most popular artist always won until D block bodied 50 cent (in his prime) & Gunit and disciplined state property.
"How the fuck did the word get to Mississippi?"
LMAO @ Myke "when you were in your senior year of college when chronic came out" 😂😂😂😂
if were not going to call Drake a "rapper" and don't consider him "hip-hop" then stop talking about him on hip hop forums.
Stop giving him hip hop accolades, awards, and credibility.
Drake is the Justin Bieber of rap. He makes music for little girls...
I don't give a damn what anyone says but those 4 Joe tracks were dope
Might as well have C town listen to comeback season and review it lol
"Drake and Joe Budden are not in the same weight class." They aren't even in the same genre. Drake is a pop artist who can rap, not really a rapper. That's why he doesn't need to respond to Budden b/c he doesn't really have much cred to lose in the hip hop realm
Dre always gave credit to his writers though. There is a difference between a writer and a ghost writer. And Eazy E had a rhyme about Cube writing all his rhymes. Saying you are a top rapper that writes all your raps but having a ghost writer is what's wack.
Ken is 100% right. Boxing is a contact sport and punching power can be measured while heart cannot.
2015 was Quentin Miller's year tho.
Everybody knew Dre didn't write.
Drake is playing the game well i agree with Myke.
Great discussion. Love the rawness of this one.
I love you guys so much.
When Drake came at Meek, Meek had a hot album that was released a few months before. Budden hasn't had a hot track in years.
first off, drake DID start as a rapper only "room for improvement" is his first project, and theres no trace of him singing until "comeback season".
second, drake outright admitted and theres producing notes that prove that quentin miller wrote 90% of the tracks on IYRTITL.
third, drake does and always has considered himself a rapper first, he shouldnt get a pass for someone writing his shit.
yea it should be known to everybody that drakes a pop star not a rapper or MC h
Notifications SQUADD😂 love DEHH
Room For Improvement is Drake's first mixtape guys. Came out in 2006. Comeback Season dropped in 2007.
Drake was always a serious rapper he came from the gate spitting & always could flow
Thank you
please, people were talking like drake was up there with the best lyrically! but as soon as a proper MC came at him he shit himself
Don't forget Drake running from Pusha T & Andre 3K took shots on Frank's album
Basically forgot about this until this video
Us 40-somethings KNEW that Dre was not a writer of his own lyrics ever since Ice Cube left NWA and formed "The Lynch Mob."
I find it funny because people who were never fans of Drake/ never took him too serious are the ones who dont have a problem with the ghost writing. It's only the hardcore fans that stuck up for Drake all these years that feel let down.
The difference between Drake and Dre is their image. Dre was very upfront about the fact that he wasnt writing his rhymes, he never made any claims on how good of a lyrisict he was. Drake however, claimed to be the best with the pen. You take away Drakes lyrics, hes nothing, that emotion he puts into his songs is gone. Take away Dres lyrics and hes still an ill producer and album director.
This is like "First Take" for hip hop
You have to give props to DEHH's video editor. Those cuts are smooth! Also does anyone know what is the song they use for the intro?
I never thought Dre was writing his stuff. Ever since NWA, it was knowledge that DOC and them dudes was basically writing for him. And I wasn't in HS when they came out...lol...I was older
Regarding knowledge of whether Dre wrote his rhymes in the 90s, couldn't you have read the liner notes that came with the CD or vinyl or cassette?
If a rapper's surname appears in the notes without him actually appearing on the song, then someone else besides the vocalist wrote something.
This beef's like that one friend you got who roasts the fuck out you but is still your homie
Ken, I disagree with you that people viewed him as a pure rapper, cause he never was a pure rapper from the beginning. he never made a full rap project, even with the mixtape days. the most rapping he did was in: if your reading this its too late. that album had melodic crooning mixed wit migos flow rapping, with the exception of jungle. dat album had a lotta of controversy based on ghostwriting allegation, contract obligation for cash money, addressing haters calling him soft. drake said in a interview he don't view that project highly. So in reality, discounting iyrtitl, he never made a full rap project.
the thing about drake is he tried 2 hide his ghostwriters. dre was pretty open about it early on even if it wasn't common knowledge on the the chronic, its still something you can probably guess that or at least not b surprised or upset by the news
The difference is Dre is a producer. If Drake didn't write his lyrics, then he contributes nothing to the song. He's basically DJ Khaled.
Joe Dissed Views. Then he got a snippet of what Drake said in No Shopping AND in 4AMIC. So Joe Dropped 3 tracks, then Drake popped off at the concert then Joe dropped one more.
KRS was reaching for Nelly, that was lame. Drake came at Joe
Lol beezy shut them down too, he read those liner notes
Damn looking back at this, kinge was 100% right! Y’all gave drake a pass. Before the ghost writing shit ppl were calling drake hip hop
Feefo has a huge point how Jay & Drake toyed with him
Are They Not Aware That Kimbo Slice Is Dead? LOL