wattpad's after franchise is falling apart and it's MESSY

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    wattpad's after franchise is falling apart and it's MESSY
    Hey everyone welcome back to my channel! It’s been a minute since we’ve done a movie commentary video, i think the last one we did was for Addison Rae’s He’s All That Netflix movie but if you’ve been around on the channel for a while you know that the fall season includes a very niche tradition around here… watching the latest installment of the after franchise! If you need a refresher, the After movies are based on harry styles fanfiction written by Anna Todd that initially gained traction on Wattpad before eventually being published as an actual book series and adapted into movies.
    To say the movies got off to a rocky start is an understatement, since they’ve been released the After franchise has been looked at as a bit of a cringey mess due to its origin as wattpad fanfiction considering the platform's.... interesting reputation online. On top of that the plot and acting were.. also interesting. Despite that though, After fans have been very vocal about their trust in the series eventually getting good, but I was pretty shocked to see this year that barely anybody was talking about the latest movie, not even the fans. That's not to say nobody was talking about it at all, but the buzz around the franchise both negative and positive has definitely seen a dramatic decrease. What's also interesting is that a pretty sizable number of actors from the previous movies have been replaced despite there only being two more movies left to film.
    Speaking of movies left to film, while the new addition to the series is called After We Fell and acts as the third movie in whats i thOUGHT was a three-movie series, it actually turns out that there will be yet another movie before this story finally ends.... lmao (not including the prequel one). SO I thought we could check it out the same way we have with the previous movies and see what Tessa and Hardin get up to in that hour and a half runtime! I'm anticipating an unhinged nightmare.
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Комментарии • 796

  • @felipeveloso1578
    @felipeveloso1578 2 года назад +4359

    When a Sprouse brother willingly abandons your franchise, is the moment you should realize that there's no salvation.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 2 года назад +445

      Indeed, you can't blame Dylan for jumping ship, though Trevor was one of the ONLY likeable characters in the film!

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 2 года назад +452

      Dylan got his check and ran. Good for him. 👏

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад +90

      Actually he didn't abandon it they fired him he was willing to come back and portray his role as Trevor but they told him hes no longer needed after has a history of ditching characters for no reason that's why the writer Anna Todd walked away from the franchise because she didn't like what voltage was doing with her creation they ruined the whole movies

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад +7

      @@trinaq They fired him

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад +6

      @@hope-cat4894 They fired him stop making up rumors

  • @TheSimplyCooking
    @TheSimplyCooking 2 года назад +4801

    So he... got her a job he didn’t want her to take because he wanted to leave the country? Okay, Mr Big Brain.

    • @alicezanini6123
      @alicezanini6123 2 года назад +174

      His two brain cells couldn't figure it out

    • @Name-tn1zg
      @Name-tn1zg 2 года назад +60

      Yeah if he didn’t want her to leave he wouldn’t have made her get the job 💀

    • @maxwellpeter5955
      @maxwellpeter5955 2 года назад +15

      Markiplier: yeah, this is big brain time

    • @juliaaz711
      @juliaaz711 2 года назад +37

      Not only that, his reasoning for it is that he doesnt want to be in a place where he doesnt know anyone but wants her to move to London where SHE doesnt even know anyone

    • @tanv5778
      @tanv5778 Год назад

      He lacks brain

  • @FirstnameLastname-he1ov
    @FirstnameLastname-he1ov 2 года назад +1781

    Imagine flirting with a woman once for 30 seconds and then her boyfriend spends the next 7 months jealously obsessing over the idea of her hooking up with you

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 2 года назад +219

      The POWER this waiter has i swear 🤣 he was just demeaning him earlier too; that was the icing for me

    • @gwenchase97
      @gwenchase97 2 года назад +70

      I have met someone like that, an ex of a friend of mine, they broke up five years ago, but he kept harassing her, and every male person who liked a picture of her she posted, sliding in their DMS, calling them names, she had to cut ties with a lot of people due to him being abusive.

    • @FirstnameLastname-he1ov
      @FirstnameLastname-he1ov 2 года назад +42

      @@gwenchase97 Eesh, I'm sorry for your friend. That's pretty terrible. Hope they're doing better now.

    • @gwenchase97
      @gwenchase97 2 года назад +25

      @@FirstnameLastname-he1ov yes she has been and still is doing better

    • @Kyran1996
      @Kyran1996 2 года назад +24

      That waiter has big tip energy (in that he clearly gets a lot of big tips; just not from guys like Hardin).

  • @TaraMooknee
    @TaraMooknee 2 года назад +2947

    when Hardin said he wanted them to move to London I screamed "NO!"

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 2 года назад +11

      @@caseyaonso4270 NO, NOW YOU LISTEN TO ME! why should i waste my time at school? i am super famous on youtube. tell me, dear cas

    • @41052
      @41052 2 года назад +56

      @@AxxLAfriku school is very important. Trust. I’ve skipped school for at least a month now but I’m going back after thanksgiving break. I’m not scared that I might flunk high school but the possibility is very real, so if I didn’t pass life would be so much harder because you really do need a high school diploma. School is important, from a fellow “bad” kid.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 2 года назад +37

      Precisely, red flags abound, Hardin is your typical nightmare controlling Wattpad boyfriend!

    • @Catglittercrafts
      @Catglittercrafts 2 года назад +24

      @@41052 he’s a troll. He doesn’t mean anything he says. Lol

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 2 года назад +19

      The abuser typically tries to separate you from loved ones who can help you. Considering Tessa has sacrificed her mom and Noah for him and literally only surrounds herself with Hardin's "yes squad".... at least she had some since

  • @fary5000
    @fary5000 2 года назад +3455

    You jump from Hardin and Tessa’s dad talking to “after that, they have sex” so fast that I legit choked on my orange juice. I mega-misunderstood that for a second.

    • @NannaLaurie
      @NannaLaurie 2 года назад +96

      Having not watched any of the After stuff I was like, good move on me not watching it if the bf is doing the dad.

    • @mikaelaisraelsson119
      @mikaelaisraelsson119 2 года назад +196

      The plot twist we needed honestly.

    • @AV-uo6qh
      @AV-uo6qh 2 года назад +28

      Same here 😂

    • @marianaesquivel8567
      @marianaesquivel8567 2 года назад +14

      LMAO same

    • @helmaquin
      @helmaquin 2 года назад +11

      I was just about to comment this, lmao! 🤣

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 2 года назад +2824

    Molly: "Is it true that you're a moron for taking back the same guy who only banged you for a bet?"
    Molly only speaks the truth, yet we're supposed to side with Hardin and Tessa because... Why, exactly?

    • @Jas13579
      @Jas13579 2 года назад +260

      Honestly I can't believe we are supposed to not agree with Molly??

    • @leahdavis9434
      @leahdavis9434 2 года назад +205

      Honestly Molly sucks but she sucks because this is obviously an abusive situation and Tessa needs help not ridicule

    • @erikdaniels0n
      @erikdaniels0n 2 года назад +16

      Holy shit, I feel like I see you everywhere. We’re subscribed to SO MANY of the same channels

    • @alyssapinon9670
      @alyssapinon9670 2 года назад +101

      @@leahdavis9434 best take 👏🏽 the slut-shaming and victim blaming in that scene made me angrier than it should have.
      both of these girls need to realize that hating other women isn’t a personality trait. Plus they’re in college. If you haven’t left your pick me phase behind in high school then please do some soul searching and get some help

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 2 года назад +9

      It'd be so satisfying to see Hardin get Cameron's death from Halloween Kills.

  • @wordplay8997
    @wordplay8997 2 года назад +809

    My now-husband and I dated for over a year and never once had a screaming match. We have now been married over a year and still have never had a screaming fight. Having regular screaming fights with your significant other is NOT normal, NOT okay, and NOT romantic.

    • @maxwellpeter5955
      @maxwellpeter5955 2 года назад +75

      Agree, shouting match everyday? No thanks

    • @vs9400
      @vs9400 2 года назад +61

      Exactly. I'm seven years married now - also 3 years of relationship prior to marriage, and never had such a fight. That's insane.

    • @PoppyOxymoron
      @PoppyOxymoron 2 года назад +25

      100% my boyfriend &I have never yelled at each other, never raise voices when we disagree and we always actively try to communicate through any issues. That’s HEALTHY

    • @karlalovato1715
      @karlalovato1715 2 года назад +11

      Purrrrr, I love that for you! Why anyone would think it’s normal to have a screaming match regularly or at all is beyond ridiculous. If you can’t speak to your partner in a normal tone when you’re having a disagreement, you should be concerned. If you can only communicate via arguing, then……..

    • @xeoney
      @xeoney 2 года назад +18

      I think people mix up communicating about your opinions/thoughts and full blown arguing. It's normal and healthy to talk about things, even things you disagree on, so you can listen and be listened to. Having a screaming match isn't. Also, I'm happy for you and your partner!

  • @joeymills5827
    @joeymills5827 2 года назад +3294

    i’ve seen the 3rd after movie and lemme tell you that hardin gets so much worse... and there’s gonna be a 4th movie. can’t wait to see even more toxicity!

    • @joeymills5827
      @joeymills5827 2 года назад +154

      @@caseyaonso4270 he deadass looks so deranged like bruh... lmfaooo 😭😭😭

    • @morley364
      @morley364 2 года назад +147

      Hardin: I'm the only reason you have your job, and you should have known I wanted to move to London even though I never told you, and also I had a dream you slept with someone so I'm taking it out on you. I shall now proceed to scream at you for several minutes. Oh also I'm rude to servers!
      Me: kill him Tessa kill him now and never look back

    • @Eatyourenemies5
      @Eatyourenemies5 2 года назад +41

      There will be 6, we are just half way through

    • @laurabalconi4267
      @laurabalconi4267 2 года назад +41

      And the movie version isn't even nearly as bad as the book's one

    • @kashology
      @kashology 2 года назад +4

      wait they’re on the third movie???

  • @laurarato9592
    @laurarato9592 2 года назад +1811

    The thing is, that no one wants to agree on, the books are also trash. ( I read all of them, 12 yo me had no high standards) so of course the movies suck. It’s so repetitive bc that’s literally what happens in the books too

    • @randomthoughtswithastrange9490
      @randomthoughtswithastrange9490 2 года назад +80

      Honestly even as a 13 year old, I felt some of the books were trash 😅

    • @alexisinthebuilding
      @alexisinthebuilding 2 года назад +18

      i read them at 11- i’m 12 this year pls help i corrupted myself at 11-

    • @damaridavenport2185
      @damaridavenport2185 2 года назад +38

      I read the Harry fan fics and they were also repetitive but they were so much worse with the abuse and manipulation it was crazy

    • @hmmm173
      @hmmm173 2 года назад +40

      @@alexisinthebuilding just stop reading shit books

    • @illyriancrybaby
      @illyriancrybaby 2 года назад +16

      True but at least there was some explanation to a lot of stuff and their fights or his assholeness… the fanfics were veeery long and basically about nothing + they were brutal indeed…thats why the “books” are so toned down and the movie is just plain ridiculous

  • @mrsmoth101
    @mrsmoth101 2 года назад +1647

    The fact that one Vampire Diaries actress left the Kimberly roll and another Vampire Diaries actress took it instead is just amazing

    • @meeieio
      @meeieio 2 года назад +122

      Ong, it’s weird that Caroline and Lexi play the same character

    • @crapreact5989
      @crapreact5989 2 года назад +96

      @@meeieio watch Rebecca be Kimberly in the fourth one

    • @meeieio
      @meeieio 2 года назад +9

      @@crapreact5989 that would be great lmao

    • @meeieio
      @meeieio 2 года назад +6

      @@crapreact5989 i haven’t seen the 4th season of legacies yet but I’m so exited for Rebekah to show up omg

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад +3

      Show someone you know the reason why Candice king AKA Caroline Ford from vampire diaries left is because she was pregnant so she couldn't film

  • @flawedsanity
    @flawedsanity 2 года назад +751

    You know how in "You", Joe thinks every human who is remotely nice to him is flirting with him? Well, in After, Hardin thinks that... literally anyone who interacts with Tessa is "in love with her and the oNe for her" lmao. Dunno why but my brain just made that connection

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 2 года назад +32

      Probably because even he knows deep down its not him lol he consciousness even knows it

    • @satarupagingerkolay
      @satarupagingerkolay 2 года назад +47

      Absolutely! This is very True. Joe and Hardin are if not totally, but a little similar to each other as they both are toxic but the only difference is that YOU as a series is self aware of it's toxicity and never glorifies the relationships shown in interviews and all but After literally is marketed as a love story.

    • @namyajha482
      @namyajha482 2 года назад +8

      @@satarupagingerkolay exactly amen to that

    • @SahloFolina2161
      @SahloFolina2161 Год назад

      Man really needs to unpack that...

  • @jonginisholy
    @jonginisholy 2 года назад +832

    I have never read the books or seen the movies but i still know enough to absolutely despise Hardin.

    • @jonginisholy
      @jonginisholy 2 года назад +13

      @@caseyaonso4270 ty 😢

    • @emmylia
      @emmylia 2 года назад +23

      same, the only way i’ll ever come close to watching these movies is through the copious amount of reviews on youtube roasting them

    • @ladyorapma
      @ladyorapma 2 года назад +7

      ​@@emmylia Same 😂😂 I have no interest in actually watching these movies but I enjoy watching reviews AND reactions. And at this points after watching so many I think I may have already seen the whole movie 😂😂

    • @emmylia
      @emmylia 2 года назад +7

      @@ladyorapma lmao mood, like the op said i’ve seen enough to know i hate hardin (and tessa, they’re both trash tbh) and well i think thats basically all you need to know about these movies🗿

  • @screamcow_
    @screamcow_ 2 года назад +1005

    I still can't believe that Hardin is Harry Styles in the book 😭😭 I'm not even a fan of Harry but who looks at that man and thinks, "oh yeah, bad boy with mommy/daddy issues who's incredibly toxic to the only girl who's somehow still willing to tolerate him, that's every girl's DREAM!" Like what???

    • @Mo_Nilla_Co
      @Mo_Nilla_Co 2 года назад +117

      Obviously someone projecting shitty men they had in real life or fictional men with terrible tropes.

    • @echoeleos
      @echoeleos 2 года назад +87

      Honestly, same. Like who can even think something like this!? And let's not forget, he was merely an adult when Anna Todd wrote this book and that's just so... 😭

    • @hmmm173
      @hmmm173 2 года назад +86

      And that's why writing fanfic of real ppl is gross and inappropriate 😀😀

    • @alyssapinon9670
      @alyssapinon9670 2 года назад +58

      Ok same! Why would you create a shit version of someone who actually seems like a cool person irl?

    • @Mo_Nilla_Co
      @Mo_Nilla_Co 2 года назад +49

      @@alyssapinon9670 Degradation kinks and a skewed ideal of masculinity can take you to some dark places, man.

  • @nusster3051
    @nusster3051 2 года назад +1627

    Bet there’s gonna be a “Before We Collided” movie in like 2 years

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 2 года назад +133

      Oh God, not the dreaded prequel!

    • @sophierichter4923
      @sophierichter4923 2 года назад +4

      I’ve seen it too 😭

    • @ina3394
      @ina3394 2 года назад +4

      omg your profile pic

    • @aliomar2912
      @aliomar2912 2 года назад +25

      Are we going to see Tessa getting run over by a car over and over again?
      That's why the author called the second movie “after we collided.” Because Tessa “collided” into a car.

    • @JohnyJohnatanJohnson
      @JohnyJohnatanJohnson 2 года назад +2

      We've come a full circle

  • @atlatinha9197
    @atlatinha9197 2 года назад +984

    i love how everybody was expecting so much from after 3 and i was ready to hatewach it but it's simply so BORING like where's the spice? where's the cringe scenes?? it's not bad funny at this point it's just bad ☠️

    • @atlatinha9197
      @atlatinha9197 2 года назад +16

      @@caseyaonso4270 I don't even know at this point 😭

    • @0912sooli
      @0912sooli 2 года назад +16

      @@caseyaonso4270 basically the riverdale route

    • @kazakukog
      @kazakukog 2 года назад +3

      same, i was so ready to hate it

    • @missserenity1090
      @missserenity1090 2 года назад +8

      They replaced all the cringe with making Hardin even more toxic and horrible and yet I’ve heard so many people say that he’s so much worse in the books.

    • @atlatinha9197
      @atlatinha9197 2 года назад +7

      @@missserenity1090 oh yeah he definitely is. I've been watching the after series made by amanda the jedi on youtube and she reads the books as well. he is THE WORST. comparing to the books, they make him seem the best boyfriend ever

  • @mabsie2249
    @mabsie2249 2 года назад +527

    "Fight, sad music, make up sex, sprinkle in a bit of mommy and daddy issues and then that imaginary threat of the waiter every so often" literally my last relationship

  • @TheSlipperyNUwUdle
    @TheSlipperyNUwUdle 2 года назад +377

    It depresses me that the After series and 50 Shades are probably what people think of when they hear “fanfiction”.
    I’ve read so many absolutely amazing fanfics and then you... have those. 😔

  • @sari9645
    @sari9645 2 года назад +425

    I read the After books when I was way too young and absolutely loved them. Then I got in an abusive relationship and shortly after it ended I tried to re-read the books only to be horrified. They were SO toxic and the books (and now movies) are bound to have kids go into unhealthy relationships and rationalize it

    • @melinabittes2858
      @melinabittes2858 2 года назад +58

      I'm so sorry you had that terrible kind of relationship. But really, that's exactly why I absolutely despise these books because all it does is make young people unconsciously absorb these behaviours as something desirable in a relationship. I get so sick thinking about After that I'd never be able to watch 1 second of this without being disgusted

    • @naivelopez3601
      @naivelopez3601 2 года назад

      I read this books when I was 13 and absolutely despised them toxic relationships are the worst and am sorry u went through that I hated the books the characters didn't have any development even in the 3rd book it was all the same toxic shit 💀

  • @kathchenvondusterwald611
    @kathchenvondusterwald611 2 года назад +748

    "After that, they have sex..." Can't be the only one who took that to mean Hardin and her dad for a split second. Now that is some Hardin drama I could actually get into.

    • @eilir_adron
      @eilir_adron 2 года назад +12

      Fr

    • @Wut_191
      @Wut_191 2 года назад +24

      Actually would make the movie interesting

    • @Kyran1996
      @Kyran1996 2 года назад +35

      When he first asked her, "Who's your daddy?" he was genuinely curious because he wanted to get to know him.

    • @eilir_adron
      @eilir_adron 2 года назад +7

      @@Kyran1996 omfg

  • @christinadamon9818
    @christinadamon9818 2 года назад +873

    love that you wrote the situation out as an AITA post for .2 seconds of screen time

    • @primbrooks7536
      @primbrooks7536 2 года назад +21

      It was brilliant!!

    • @silviaov633
      @silviaov633 2 года назад +6

      @@caseyaonso4270 the best part 🤣

    • @princessofhell4639
      @princessofhell4639 2 года назад +10

      Time stamp??
      Edit: I found it myself 7:40 for anyone who needs it

  • @mddskat
    @mddskat 2 года назад +200

    “When his love language is being an asshole” sent meeeeeeee lmfao

  • @Lucy-yd6uj
    @Lucy-yd6uj 2 года назад +114

    THE SQUIDWARD SOUNDS WHEN HE GETS OUT OF THE HOT TUB KGJDHAGSJFJ

  • @happycheese5135
    @happycheese5135 2 года назад +513

    After isn't about romance. It's domestic violence! As long as you realize that Hardin is abusive, Tessa is too because she manipulates him emotionally, the series isn't that bad at depicting a toxic relationship. But yeah, let's stop calling this romantic. It's domestic violence and there will be 911 calls in the future life of "Hessa"

    • @theultimatesillygoose5668
      @theultimatesillygoose5668 2 года назад +120

      it really is a bad depiction tho. because their relationship is glorified, romanticized, appreciated by the books/movies. they have their happy ending, there is not a single moment where anything is actually discussed and addressed by the author, the after saga IS presented as a love story by literally any commercial about the books/movies, etc. 🙁

    • @shara5985
      @shara5985 2 года назад +41

      Exactly, I hate both characters and I hate when people act like Tessa is a victim. She isn't. They're both equally shitty people and if they were a real couple, I'd rather them stay together instead of ruining other people's lives.
      I mean when she cheated on Noah and was like, "I didn't mean to hurt you", that's when I knew she was shitty. Although Hardin is on a different level of shitty. He is insane.

    • @tanv5778
      @tanv5778 Год назад +1

      Why do people glorify such shit? I mean okay the author wrote it but you don't have to romanticize their relationship, have common sense, call it toxic and move on.

  • @cmmusic4721
    @cmmusic4721 2 года назад +167

    They should play this movie in health class like those movies they play to teach kids relationship red flags

    • @alyssapinon9670
      @alyssapinon9670 2 года назад +23

      You know that would be a really fun class assignment. Get some laughs out of it too!

    • @tashabarnhart7270
      @tashabarnhart7270 2 года назад +5

      wait that's a good idea actually. b/c i think middle/high schoolers would benefit from understanding these kinds of dynamics aren't okay and why. also as like a potential deconstruction of how media normalizes abusive and unhealthy relationships

    • @maykhan4488
      @maykhan4488 2 года назад +3

      My thoughts exactly. And with commentary vids highlighting the red flags and what not to do/ get into.

  • @crystalmather5448
    @crystalmather5448 2 года назад +85

    THANK YOU for mentioning the whole “adult telling Tessa to stay with Harden despite him being a garbage bag” thing, I literally can’t stand it when that happens

  • @hannaelisa4736
    @hannaelisa4736 2 года назад +311

    i’m just so sorry for harry😭after is gonna be a part of his legacy *forever*

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад +16

      Harry in a interview in 2019 that he doesn't he said he knows there's books and movies and he he said it doesn't bother him he said he knows fans right fan fiction about him all the time he said it's nothing new he it's nothing new he even met the actor who plays hardin the met gala and they shook hands Liam Payne also said he doesn't care either

    • @anja726
      @anja726 2 года назад +3

      but I feel like as disturbing as it is it is also kinda iconic. The whole situation is so damn messy and low key problematic (talking abut the tropes the book perpetuates) but it also it goes to show his impact in and on popular culture. And from this viewpoint it doesnt matter how messy those books and films are. Harry has a good public image and I feel like everybody that knows the connection between him and the after series is sort of on his side so I dont think he has to necesarrily worry about all this and how he may be percieved bc of those books/movies. Like I said I find it in some twisted way to be pretty iconic

  • @tapefiend
    @tapefiend 2 года назад +272

    They also lost Selma Blair as Tessa's mom - which I can't decide if it was a bad or good thing since Selma Blair was one of the best actresses, but she was also wasted in her role.

    • @maisysinclair
      @maisysinclair 2 года назад +40

      i think she had to leave due to health reasons

    • @typhainej5247
      @typhainej5247 2 года назад +17

      @@maisysinclair yes she has multiple sclerosis

  • @shawty1369
    @shawty1369 2 года назад +199

    Now I get why I was confused when I watched after we fell. I didnot know they changed Vance and Kimberley.

  • @shannonceleste5557
    @shannonceleste5557 2 года назад +180

    You talking about Harden and tess’s dad and then immediately saying “and then they had sex” made me double take

  • @calistusjay60
    @calistusjay60 2 года назад +64

    I’m still convinced that these movies are a social experiment to test how unlikeable they can make a character before people stop liking him due to his good looks.

  • @IUsedToBeAnAdventurerLikeYou
    @IUsedToBeAnAdventurerLikeYou 2 года назад +48

    The Squidward sounds as Hardin’s stomping away from the hot tub is just 🤌

  • @Karina-ir9zn
    @Karina-ir9zn 2 года назад +37

    ALLEGEDLY some of the actors and Ann Todd herself were fired for talking bad about the main actress/ starting drama on set. And Ann Todd was leaking stuff from the set so 👀

  • @chappellgroan
    @chappellgroan 2 года назад +59

    the way hardin turned into voldemort at 8:55 killed me. fitting considering he played young voldemort and ralph fiennes is his uncle 😂

  • @bookishimpala5764
    @bookishimpala5764 2 года назад +454

    Part of me wants these movies to go the route of the divergent franchise where we don't get the last movie (or in this case movies) because it's just so bad and the relationship is super toxic. But on the same hand I don't want these movies to go because they're like a train wreck I can't look away from and also the cringe funny moments.
    I'm at that at a 50/50 and don't plan to read the books, which is sad because generally if a book is adapted then I'm usually so hype to read something.

    • @wawaicedcoffee
      @wawaicedcoffee 2 года назад +39

      I’m actually sorry to disappoint you but they already filmed the 4th one (they filmed it simultaneously with the 3rd one) 💀

    • @jasmineorchid1070
      @jasmineorchid1070 2 года назад +4

      I can tell you the books are a trainwreck and a half.

    • @Sweethearts4969
      @Sweethearts4969 2 года назад +4

      i just hope we dont see the light of day about the movies from their different POV (thanks stephanie meyer... 😅)

    • @koostattoos-8859
      @koostattoos-8859 2 года назад +4

      @@wawaicedcoffee how the fuck did they do that 😭

  • @hummus_exual
    @hummus_exual 2 года назад +393

    I (thankfully) never read After in my life, and I only know the basic premises, but I remember distinctly the girls in my middle school going INSANE when the headmaster (rightfully) had it removed from the library.
    If this is the kind of romantic content young teenagers like and emulate, no wonder young love nowadays is completely fucked up.

    • @richasocool
      @richasocool 2 года назад +48

      Why would it ever be in the library

    • @omgitskittyandjaja
      @omgitskittyandjaja 2 года назад +43

      They actually removed some of the worst stuff from the books (like Hardin filming a girl he was with and spreading it non-consensually)

    • @steppenfuchs5608
      @steppenfuchs5608 2 года назад +10

      @@omgitskittyandjaja but the whole premise of the first book is emotional manipulation...

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 2 года назад +12

      Because the classics always portray young love so positively lol. Banning books is wrong. Sure, don't put explicit books in schools where it's not age appropriate, but kids and teens deserve access to all types of books. One of my favorite things my library would do is have Banned Books Month where my librarian encouraged us to read as many previously banned books as possible that were on our shelves, were encouraged to seek out ones that were currently still banned, and to learn about why they were banned

    • @omgitskittyandjaja
      @omgitskittyandjaja 2 года назад +26

      @@msjkramey usually in school libraries banned books month is for iconic books that have been banned like 1984 not books about why abusive people are sexy haha.
      Banned books month is very common but overall, its a high school and they still keep certain stuff out, they could still get it anywhere else.

  • @shannonceleste5557
    @shannonceleste5557 2 года назад +120

    Tbh I wish they’d just lean into the toxicity at this point. Similar to A Marriage Story, show us the ugly and make it realistic. Many of us have been in these off and on relationships so explore the Off part further

    • @alyssapinon9670
      @alyssapinon9670 2 года назад +9

      Omg yes! now THAT is an excellent example of a toxic relationship done well. Mostly because it’s more self aware than After. I am an aspiring writer and am trying to use the famous argument scene as inspiration for some of my characters. But sadly I haven’t brought myself to watch it in its entirety because some stuff hits way too close to home as a child of divorce. Meanwhile I feel nothing for Tessa and her family cuz they’re all poorly written characters 😂 I wish more YA media would just lean into the toxicity element because it’s always more insightful and compelling to watch, especially if it’s written in a self aware manner

  • @cosmicsugarbunny1832
    @cosmicsugarbunny1832 2 года назад +80

    I was kinda pissed that Dylan Sprouse was not in this movie, but also glad he left. He was way too good for this franchise.

  • @alina18600
    @alina18600 2 года назад +188

    At 5:12 I thought for an horrifying second you were still talking about harden and tessas dad lmao

    • @coatimundi69
      @coatimundi69 2 года назад +6

      tyler perry esque plot twist

  • @rockstargirl
    @rockstargirl 2 года назад +44

    i lost it at “DIVORCE BABE” 😭😭

  • @elle4487
    @elle4487 2 года назад +36

    the sensation that the movies are becoming emptier its bc the books are exactly that away the last three books its just them fighting and making out its exhausting

  • @lonestarr5349
    @lonestarr5349 2 года назад +59

    santa claus: 🎅😏🥵
    tessa: 😫😫😫
    hardin: 🤬🤬🤬

  • @autumn1352
    @autumn1352 2 года назад +46

    He emotionally manipulates his girlfriend and then has the AUDACITY to be like "why don't you trust me?" boy why don't you let her talk to any guy without being a ain't asshole?

  • @bee475
    @bee475 2 года назад +92

    Damn isn't Harden a move in Pokemon?

  • @sarahnunez318
    @sarahnunez318 2 года назад +66

    If I were Harry Styles I would be so offended that my name is associated with those characters in any way. The reason why toxic, dark versions of Harry Styles (who is a real-life gummy bear) fanfics were good, was because they were just dumb wattpad stories. They were never meant to see any other screen besides your phone's screen.

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад +2

      Harry said in a interview that he knows there's books and movies and he said he doesn't care He said it doesn't affect his life and liam payne talked about after in his Instagram live last year he said he watched the movies and he said they're cool

    • @sarahnunez318
      @sarahnunez318 2 года назад +12

      @@christina93d5 💀

    • @agrimasingh3021
      @agrimasingh3021 2 года назад

      Exactly .
      This type of content on wattpad is normal( unfortunately ), but to see it in a movie is 100x wierd .

    • @naivelopez3601
      @naivelopez3601 2 года назад +4

      @@christina93d5 ur everywhere ima just assume ur a huge After fan

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад

      @@naivelopez3601 Wow good job who told you you are not smart🤣

  • @moongem4489
    @moongem4489 2 года назад +43

    5:12 At first I misunderstood this sentence completely and thought Hardin's love life took a completely different turn.

  • @selfsessions3515
    @selfsessions3515 2 года назад +145

    “after that, they have sex” who Hardin and Tessa’s dad?????😭😭😭

    • @caithawes9646
      @caithawes9646 2 года назад +9

      That’s what I thought as well it took me a second 😂

  • @claireallens7662
    @claireallens7662 2 года назад +60

    They also changed actors for Landon, Tessa's mom, and Hardin's stepmother (for a second time). I guess everyone really is done with this series.

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад

      They changed the actor for Landon Well there's no reason for it he couldn't come in time to film since he was filming someone else so they didn't want to wait for him to come so they fired him and replaced him with someone else and the woman who played test his mother in the 1st 2nd movie couldn't fly down to Bulgaria to film because she has MS she's sickAnd the woman who played the Karen harden stepmother in the 1st movie the movie couldn't film the other movies because she was busy with her TV show that she produces And the woman in the 2nd one who placed Karen was busy filming the TV show all-American so that's why she couldn't come back either

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 2 года назад +4

      @@christina93d5 you got all the answers Nick!

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад

      @@pixiestxNyomouf Don't know why the hell you're coming at me and call me Nick like what the hell does that mean just because I know what happened and why they change everyone what is your people's problem

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 2 года назад +9

      @@christina93d5 it was a joke....based on the Kanye West vs Nick Cannon gif.....he said "you don't have all the answers Nick!" You had the actually answers/explanations. I changed it; didn't think the reference was that old yeesh 😬 BTW that is very rude. Just because you don't get a reference does not give you the right to be disrespectful. I can assume your a fan of the book but you don't have to be disrespectful

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад

      @@pixiestxNyomouf I'm not being disrespectful because most of the people answer me they only give me hate because I'm a fan of after and I defended sorry if I came off
      As Disrespectful
      wasn't trying to be I'm just so sick of the hate I get

  • @jaylaoliver6725
    @jaylaoliver6725 2 года назад +242

    Prime example of why wattpad fics shouldn’t be movies

    • @Foodfry122
      @Foodfry122 2 года назад +3

      Tbh kissing booth was okay

    • @coffin3050
      @coffin3050 2 года назад +38

      @@Foodfry122 no

    • @Foodfry122
      @Foodfry122 2 года назад +8

      @@coffin3050 I see your point and I agree🤣

    • @naivelopez3601
      @naivelopez3601 2 года назад

      @@Foodfry122 The books weren't really bad and I liked the first movie

  • @weirdfoureyes413
    @weirdfoureyes413 2 года назад +155

    The one thing I can appreciate about the movies is that they toned down Hardin's character/personality. I heard he was a lot worse in the books. Still, the way he treats Tessa and the others around him in the movies is also inexcusable, and I don't know how the f Tessa doesn't see those red flags and ditch his ass.

    • @hannah-fg5vo
      @hannah-fg5vo 2 года назад +27

      HE WAS WORSE IN THE BOOKS??????

    • @jaylisaallen4387
      @jaylisaallen4387 2 года назад +1

      @@hannah-fg5vo ruclips.net/video/oWe3_NNWXNY/видео.html

    • @tonichan89
      @tonichan89 2 года назад +13

      More like red billboards

    • @alinawise6214
      @alinawise6214 2 года назад

      @@hannah-fg5vo he WAS worse in the books. :/

    • @myasmith1820
      @myasmith1820 2 года назад +12

      @@hannah-fg5vo He filmed a girl without her consent when they had sex. He ruined her life plus he burned a house down.

  • @seperatepost
    @seperatepost 2 года назад +62

    2015/16 era wattpad was such an amazing era

  • @georgiajohnson4983
    @georgiajohnson4983 2 года назад +37

    The really weird thing is, these stories are STILL ON WATTPAD!! yet we’re supposed to buy them?? 😂

  • @oneinathousand2156
    @oneinathousand2156 2 года назад +48

    I was surprised to hear you mention the published Reylo fanfiction in the sponsorship.

  • @heyitsdijz9335
    @heyitsdijz9335 2 года назад +35

    My friend had told me about After when it was still the harry styles fanfic... couldn't get past the first 10 chapters then and can't get past the first 10mins of the movies. Really dodged that toxic bullet

  • @merediths.693
    @merediths.693 2 года назад +37

    Every time a new movie comes out I just feel more sorry that Harry Styles has to have his name forever tied to this trash heap

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад +1

      Harry said in his rolling stone interview that he knows there's books and movies and he said he doesn't care

  • @carriesnaps3508
    @carriesnaps3508 2 года назад +21

    The fact that I didn't even know this movie existed until I noticed a few youtubers doing a commentary on it says a lot. Sure, non-fans like me aren't going to keep up w/the releases, but when the first two movies came out absolutely no one could escape it, especially here and on twitter. But this time around... simply crickets.

  • @IxiaRayne
    @IxiaRayne 2 года назад +54

    You know, a couple of years ago I read the books and I fully believe the movies are that boring / bad because they had to leave stuff out that was toxic / very abusive.

  • @rhiwright
    @rhiwright 2 года назад +137

    I take issue with a film partially set in London, staring actors playing British characters using the word "freshman". That's an Americanism. We say "first year" over here, and use "college" exclusively to refer to Further Education Colleges... where people do vocational qualifications from and an alternative venue to the optional last 2 years of high school. It's a lower level of education than uni (which is Higher Education). I went to college *and then* I went to uni. She's not a freshmen in a college, she's a first year student in a university. To me the word "college" implies that someone is probably about 16 and doesn't have the qualifications to go to uni. Or doesn't want to go to uni at all.

    • @bonjouritsready
      @bonjouritsready 2 года назад +6

      It’s not that deep mate

    • @tishaprnucedteasha
      @tishaprnucedteasha 2 года назад +25

      @@bonjouritsready it kinda is if ur gonna base a movie in a certain country do ur research

    • @bonjouritsready
      @bonjouritsready 2 года назад +1

      @@tishaprnucedteasha I'm English, it literally doesn't matter, we all know what it means.

    • @tishaprnucedteasha
      @tishaprnucedteasha 2 года назад +7

      @@bonjouritsready not rlly for me im gonba think about the british system when i first hear her

    • @rayafoxr3
      @rayafoxr3 2 года назад +5

      Ya college and university are the same thing in the US, idk why they didn’t make it fit how it is in the UK. Especially with them using the word freshman like that’s so easily noticeable and changeable.

  • @beetrootbaby3477
    @beetrootbaby3477 2 года назад +25

    5:13 the dad and Hardin did what after?!?!??!????😳😳😳😳

  • @kathrynmaguiree
    @kathrynmaguiree 2 года назад +47

    these movies are just all over the place which is why i didn’t continue after the first one. the only way they seem to move the plot forward is by making them fight or have some conflict that adds nothing to the story. the actors do great with what they’re given, it’s the writing that’s the issue 🥴

  • @VeryClaireThompson
    @VeryClaireThompson 2 года назад +59

    *SPOILER* Tessa does leave Hardin in the final book, though I can’t say the same for the movies.

    • @Zeynepchen
      @Zeynepchen 2 года назад +6

      Don’t they have kids in book 4 and stay together?

    • @lavenderhazel5125
      @lavenderhazel5125 2 года назад +40

      @@Zeynepchen she does leave him and she moves to nyc and then they get back together and eventually have like 2 kids

    • @VeryClaireThompson
      @VeryClaireThompson 2 года назад +26

      @@lavenderhazel5125 omfg I literally forgot about that part, don’t mind my dumbness. 😭

    • @soggytoenail
      @soggytoenail 2 года назад +24

      @@lavenderhazel5125 so they end up together after all…😟 bye

    • @thgritic102
      @thgritic102 2 года назад +7

      @@lavenderhazel5125
      Which makes me upset with the infertile plot because infertile people can't have kids that easily and back to back like she did in the books. They had a great storyline right there if they play into Tessa being infertile, so she wants to adopt while Hardin, in typical manchild style, doesn't understand how female reproductive system work and getting angry about how an adopted kid "isn't the same." This could lead to Tessa leading a childless life, by herself, and being ok with it since she's not trapped to Hardin, and Hardin just fuqing off somewhere.
      Just uuuuugh!

  • @mariella2884
    @mariella2884 2 года назад +36

    When I tell you I just ran for my headphones, so ready for this video. 💃

  • @luiza.limaneves
    @luiza.limaneves 2 года назад +31

    I'm still salty they named him Hardin and not like Henry or some shit

  • @k.am.2849
    @k.am.2849 2 года назад +9

    the most unrealistic part of this franchise is that a british person actually chose to go to university in America and pay those international student fees

  • @lene_m.r7778
    @lene_m.r7778 2 года назад +39

    Imagine Hardin and Tessa at couples therapy…the therapist would beg them to break up after every session.

    • @salvetre3966
      @salvetre3966 2 года назад +5

      That therapist would need a therapist

  • @megan6596
    @megan6596 2 года назад +32

    It took me four sittings to watch the whole movie cause it was so boring - fight, sex, British accent, fight. Where’s Dylan sprouse to spice things up

  • @m.k.9532
    @m.k.9532 2 года назад +13

    watching your videos on these movies as somebody with only a vague knowledge of harold styles and who has never heard of after outside of your videos makes me feel like i'm hearing about a friend's cousin's uncle's ex girlfriend's best friend's toxic relationship and frankly i love it

  • @TheAbigailDee
    @TheAbigailDee 2 года назад +11

    His name being Hardin was all I needed to know.

  • @intile615
    @intile615 2 года назад +24

    the cinematic parallels of 'england is my city' and u calling london his 'home country' in the AITA reddit mock-post...amazing

  • @tjhicks16
    @tjhicks16 2 года назад +19

    Those plants be spinninnnnn

  • @deaddoveinside
    @deaddoveinside 2 года назад +108

    Wasn’t the love hypothesis originally a reylo fanfic? Also, as someone who works in a corporate office in the city, I can attest that wearing a single airpod is the norm

    • @Re_Mi_Fa
      @Re_Mi_Fa 2 года назад +18

      Yes it is. Even the name Adam comes from Adam Driver lol

    • @mlokgerm
      @mlokgerm 2 года назад +3

      Yikes…

  • @Mels0103
    @Mels0103 2 года назад +23

    This one is the most uneventful of all the movies

  • @booksattack
    @booksattack 2 года назад +23

    these movies are so unwatchable and boring you can't even hate watch them???

  • @gimmecatz
    @gimmecatz 2 года назад +9

    The difference between after and the love hypothesis (both books that started out as fanfics) is insane

  • @mahrukhraja9736
    @mahrukhraja9736 2 года назад +12

    I swear the only good thing about these movies continuing to come out are your videos about them boo

    • @mahrukhraja9736
      @mahrukhraja9736 2 года назад +1

      @@caseyaonso4270 plot twist, it's never ending :)

  • @jacearmor5274
    @jacearmor5274 2 года назад +25

    The movies were always a mess, but I'm excited to see you rip it to shreds

  • @mannduh2430
    @mannduh2430 2 года назад +89

    "Hardin takes Tessa's dad to a bar which is an interesting choice considering they are both alcoholics."
    ...
    "After that they have sex..."
    ...Hardin and Tessa's dad?? I got to see this movie.

    • @stephaniemasson1224
      @stephaniemasson1224 2 года назад +10

      Now that would be a plot twist I'd be interested in, I'm not gonna lie. Can you imagine if that actually happened and Tessa was like "I mean, yeah, he fucked me for a bet and banged my dad, but that doesn't matter, we are soulmates!"

  • @ScrungleCat
    @ScrungleCat 2 года назад +12

    the god damn squidward walking sounds agdjshdkshd

  • @soph3273
    @soph3273 2 года назад +21

    And you guys thought the NOTEBOOK was toxic? LOL this is so much worse

  • @hannah-fg5vo
    @hannah-fg5vo 2 года назад +6

    that AITA post was hilarious

  • @svlanifructis7114
    @svlanifructis7114 2 года назад +8

    I wanna see the sequel to the book series called After We Divorced.

  • @socialmite2435
    @socialmite2435 2 года назад +30

    Isn’t Tessa still a freshman in college? How is she leaving to go live in London anyway?
    Also the 3rd movie didn’t release on Netflix which I think is another reason why the movie is not being talked about

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад

      It's gonna be on Netflix on November 30th it's already on Netflix in other countries like the UK and Canada it's coming in America Netflix next week

  • @earth2ravenn
    @earth2ravenn 2 года назад +9

    Hardin thinking that it’s more logical to move to an entire different country than to a new state is beyond me!

  • @Michelle-mn5zz
    @Michelle-mn5zz 2 года назад +38

    Can’t believe I’m here AFTER only 10 minutes… omg sorry I’ll leave

    • @Michelle-mn5zz
      @Michelle-mn5zz 2 года назад +2

      @@caseyaonso4270 oh hiiii love your content!

  • @halcyon444
    @halcyon444 2 года назад +9

    this all could have all been avoided if modest hit anna todd with a cease and desist tbh lmao

  • @bridgette7648
    @bridgette7648 2 года назад +7

    as a directioner, i KNOW FOR A FACT that harry would NEVER act like hardin

  • @-Desire
    @-Desire 2 года назад +5

    Though I have been watching these movies vicariously through various commentary youtubers/booktuber, the second is my favourite purely because of "FOCKING TREVAH"

  • @alysamatsunaga486
    @alysamatsunaga486 2 года назад +21

    *sees notification*
    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT

  • @edenbalfour
    @edenbalfour 2 года назад +16

    the way i have never clicked on a video quicker than i have just now

  • @lllina3203
    @lllina3203 2 года назад +18

    I love watching bad movies, bc they can be super funny. Imo the first 2 after movies were “funny bad“ but this was so boring. It took me 3 days to finish the movie…

  • @crispyliza7050
    @crispyliza7050 2 года назад +5

    "the imaginary threat of the waiter" is such a funny phrase

  • @kuklasong5220
    @kuklasong5220 Год назад +5

    At this point the problem is not even Wattpad, it's the people who literally have the most shitty book turned into movies like-
    I've read so many amazing ffs on Wattpad (finding them is a job for a warrior, but nonetheless they exist), and yet THIS is what gets chosen as a movie THIS

  • @weronikalinda4917
    @weronikalinda4917 2 года назад +8

    I hope this franchise ends with Tessa leaving Hardin after realizing all the gaslighting, manipulation and abuse she was subjected to, like a scene of her having flashbacks of this toxic relationship but this time seeing it for what it is, and her realizing that it was never her resposibility to put up with Hardin's crap and that she deserves better.

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 2 года назад +1

      His a Kissing Booth 3 just to atleast make things a little bit better for them, but I doubt it. Which is fair since in real life people aren't so lucky to leave but damn if Hardin ain't a red flag

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад

      Well they do actually break up for 2 years but then she gets back together with him and they have 2 children

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 2 года назад +4

      @@christina93d5 damn, talk about coincidences 😬

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад

      @@pixiestxNyomouf To be completely honest I didn't like the kissing booths last 2 movies they were Terribly written We don't even really see elle and Noah get back together And to the toxic one wasn't Noah it was elle she was the toxic 1 she's the 1 who ruined the relationship

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 2 года назад

      @@pixiestxNyomouf While Tessa can't help it she's in love with him and you can't only blame hardin I mean Tessa is pretty toxic too

  • @roguesnowball7787
    @roguesnowball7787 2 года назад +15

    is this the end of the wattpad story arc!?!?!

  • @freddietickle732
    @freddietickle732 2 года назад +6

    I’ve watched so many people destroy this film but I’ll happily watch Casey’s take on it

  • @Alyssa-us9bl
    @Alyssa-us9bl 2 года назад +3

    casey, i bought the love hypothesis too and i was shocked to find out that tiktok tricked us all into buying reylo fanfiction. i'm still gonna read it but I WAS BAMBOOZLED

  • @modestestmouse4820
    @modestestmouse4820 2 года назад +5

    at 5:12 when you say "they have sex" I'm choosing to believe the "they" in question is Hardin and Tessa's dad

  • @urieommarang
    @urieommarang 2 года назад +7

    My friend told me that the relationship is so realistic and deep, I'm wondering what her relationship is like.
    BTW I think there are 5 books so 2 more movies....

  • @ellenmccarthy9168
    @ellenmccarthy9168 2 года назад +4

    Hardin sees Tessa’s dad as a threat, he relies on her *daddy issues* so if the dad is trying to improve their relationship Tessa might start to see that Hardin is not a good guy

  • @xoxomckenziee
    @xoxomckenziee 2 года назад +59

    i watched the first after and immediately recommended it to my best friend. she watched it, and we became obsessed. the second movie was about to come out, and i watched the trailer before her. we were going to watch the second one together, but after that trailer, i dipped and haven’t watched any of the other movies. i feel bad for leaving her with these awful movies by herself, but she enjoys them so…
    update: after her begging me, i watched them with her about two weeks ago. i had to put bleach in my eyes every two minutes, but it’s whatever.

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 2 года назад +2

      Me: (stares into distance and puts 6 ft grabbyhand on your shoulder) "She's with others like her know...a better place"