JAY-Z "Rap is Poetry"
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- JAY-Z speaks on his best selling book, "Decoded". He also sheds light on the fact that rap/hip hop should be looked at as poetry, and claims that certain hip hop artists can and should be respected as poets.
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There's rap out there that is poetry. You just gotta listen to the correct artist.
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not xxx
not drake
not kanye
@@sam6007 if you don’t think xxx is poetry than you have never listened to his music
I love rap because of poetry.
Poem are purposely hard to understand with complicated formats and word play to confuse the reader.
Why? To make the reader slow down and go back to read and understand. Just like how majority of rap is fast paced and hard to understand
Did you say " go back and READ"?? haha funny girl.
@@brianwilson9828 what? I mean re-reading? Reading something the first time and going back and reading it to pick up contextual clues and foreshadowings that makes a piece make sense.
@Ryan Martinez I do read, I just read that ¿
Poetry is not made hard to understand, lol.
95% of poets are abstract thinkers and the only way they can express themselves is with analogy which the general population doesn't get sometimes.
Didn't Hemingway said this. That poetry needs to be hard? Maybe I'm wrong.
I love how soft spoken Jay Z is
To Pimp a Butterfly for example literally consists of poens!
you can't even spell poems correctly lmao!!!
2pac is poetry
Black JesusTheDon Kendrick>Pac
Young Finesse Kendrick is more versatile, To Pimp a Butterfly is the best rap album of all time, 2pac is more successful bc he came first and been around longer, by the end of Kendrick career he will have better numbers, I’d put Biggie over pac and Kendrick over both
@@thesupervillain8750 "and been around longer"
K-V Phrased it wrong, his music has been around longer
@@thesupervillain8750 I think dababy is the best
Exactly Jay. I'm aiming to go down as one of the great writers ever. the words matter. The life and energy it draws from and inspires. It matters.
Please publish your work onto the internet. Art is impactful even if it doesn’t bring you fame or riches. The best rapper is probably stocking produce.
when he said "people look at you strange saying you changed like you worked that hard to stay the same, like you're doing all this for a reason and what happens most of the time people change, people change your value you because they start treating you differently because of your a success." That just motivates the shit out of me at the gym, i download that to my itunes so i can hear it at the gym and it gives me a push, it is then followed by the song "They don't love you no more" by DJ Khaled.
Aww. :-)
Bogus Bozo lol
Rap =rhythm and poetry nuff said
Rhythmic African Poetry RAP
enough said. perhaps learning proper english is the first step in becoming a poet. HIP-HOP IS NOT POETRY; NOT BY A MILE
Biggie Smalls was the most talented/best rapper of all time. He is so underrated it's not even funny. Within two Albums he became the Icon of flow and rhythem. Biggie's lyrics are so well thought out, so smooth, you just don't hear anything close to that today. Granted, he didn't really talk about much other than some of his past or his subtle brags but he could paint a story over and over again. On top of that his rhymes and they way he lays them out, he changes his tone and his speed constantly.
I could go on, but I wont, but I could
The most consistent poet in rap is Nas
There are rappers like 2pac and biggie who do poetry but Nas is just a next level poet
RAP IS POETRY IS THE BEST COMENT THAT I HAVE HEARD .RAP IS WORDS WITH OR WITH OUT MUSICAL RYTHEM .
I just love the ideas that are being put out in this interview to let people understand what real hip-hop is the. Love jay-z ROC-NATION always
jay z sucks!! he's in the rock and roll hall of fame but judas priest, iron maiden and motorhead aren't. give me a fucking break. there's only a couple of hip hop groups that belong in the hall of fame and their already in.....public enemy, beastie boys and run-dmc. jay z a goddam clown whose music blows
Rap is just like poetry though having a rhythm and a beat.
I love how jay has much more class than most other rappers or artists in general.
"do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?"
Read my words... Rap is definitely Poetry
R:hythm
A:nd
P:oetry
@A_Desolate_Soul it absolutely is a form of poetry
@A_Desolate_Soul yes it is, because both are mostly dogshit
read my words: no it's not😂
rap is more complicated and in some ways better than poetry, in rap you have to add rhytme to it, poetry doesn't have to rhyme, it just has to sound beauitful. but in rap it has to sound beautiful, be on time AND it has to rhyme, so to me its the next level of poetry, like the next step. straight up
Poetry at first was accompanied by music (harp) and rhyme. If I not mistake, from Walt Wittman came the tren of free vers. Maybe I'm wrong. Because I think of poetry from Asia. I don't think that there poetry is lambic verse. But that's because of the way they write, or because of the language? In my country usually is the poetry with verse that is more known. We have great poets who wrote in free verse as well. But I think it's more hard to write poetry in rhyme then free verse. In my language not all words that finish with the same termination rhyme (in the sense that have musicality) like for exemple noon/ moon in english language. In RAP you can bend some words that don't rhyme on the page. Some RAP for exemple "Renegate" on page doesn't rhyme but the way some words are stressed it makes it to rhyme.
And poetry doesn't only need to sound beautiful. It needs to say something. At least in my opinion.
you need to stop sniffing glue😂
@@markgiordonello6710 lmao I was 14 when I wrote this. I thought I was being deep, thanks for reminding me.
@@vvasimnah bruh you're absolutely right rap is not a poetry but poetry is a part of rap because rap is bigger than poetry
Rap at his finest is poetry
Rap = Rhythm And Poetry
Rhythmic African Poetry
@@augustinetwumasi5031 yup 👍
nope. rap is repetitive auto tune lip synching no talent bullshit
I been saying this, and I think most hip hop heads know this and wish they could tell everyone this same ish….Lol I see Hip Hop as like a direct line of communication and is stronger than singing, since rap is closer to speech, which speech is the 2nd best form of communication behind body language.
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It depends on the rapper and the project. TPAB and GKMC would be interesting to use in a lit class. Stuff like that and The Cold Vein, Madvillainy, ATLliens are worthy of serious analysis.
I lock myself in the bedroom bathroom napping at noon
Yeah, dad's in a bad mood
He's always snapping at you
Marshall what happened that you
Can't stop with these pills and you've fallen off with your skills
and your own fans are laughing at you? - Going Through Changes, Eminem
Don’t diss Marshall like that.
Take a jab at snitch9ine with your battle rapping axe. This shit is cracked so sit back relaxe and attack the bad, guys
Billie Eilish, cracked like the concretes or even your bad dad a magician, which means he vanished after he smacked you, cracked your ass like a buttcrack. This has been my digital freestyle I ain’t from 8 mile but I can sit here with a smile on my face cause I know I’m only a mile away, although I gotta say Eminem is popular cause of Dr. Dre. You have anything else to say
it;s a great book jay-z is a great writer.i read the book and i can't wait to get that book.
Rap is poetry. Take moment for life for example
I find the culture and art of black people to be fascinating. There is a pattern that I see amongst black artists that is disheartening. Black artists are always talking about how they and their art should be viewed by the rest of the world. Unfortunately as an artist you can't have it both ways. You can't make art and then tell others what they should think of it. It just doesn't work that way. If you are an artist and you are not your own worst critic you and your art are doomed.
Poets like Shakespeare, Whitman, Dunbar, Brooks and Angelou are immersed in centuries of form and structure. These poetic forms date back over a thousand years. Hip hop originated in 1979. It's like mixing apples with oranges to compare rap music or rap lyrics with poetry. What I feel some are doing is trying to add creative merit to rap music but they are going about it all wrong. Rap is it's own thing. Rappers taint their art with these misguided analogies when what they should be doing is creating fresh, original takes on the art they love.
***** We will respectfully agree to disagree. I look at Rap as an acronym for Rhythm And Poetry. Perhaps some sub-genres of what you refer to as rap are contemporaneous as in "challenges" but much of it is well thought out and will impact either a reader of the written word or the listener. Most of what I refer to as RAP is not re-worked to apply to music. Listen to Gil Scott Heron but before you do that, read his poetry( perhaps Lincoln Press). His "Rap" started out only as his reading his poetry perhaps accompanied only by the beat of a drum ( He later transitioned to a full jazz trained band complete with piano, keyboards and full brass accompaniment) similar to the "beatniks" of the early 60's in Greenwich Village. They, from what I understand, often read their poetry to the beat of a drum. Similarly, in the late 60's one of the very first RAP groups was "The Last Poets". I invite you to listen to their album "On the Subway" released in 1970. Here are a couple of verses from the title track which was accompanied only by a solitary almost monotonous drum beat.
I dug the man digging on me
But the dude was hung up in a mass of confusion
as to who i was
He thought
he was trying to see
but you see but you see
me knowing me
black proud and determined to be free
could plainly see my enemy
That my friend is both rap and poetry. I agree we are not apes but apes and humans are mammals. Similarly, there are differences in various poetry forms but when certain poetic traits are found in a writing or song, I call it poetry. True, not all life on earth are mammals but all mammals share certain inalienable traits. So, yes, certainly, some Country Music and Rock ( e.g. Layla) can be considered poetic and some forms of rap should not be considered poetic. Almost anything in art that utilizes our creativity as humans has exceptions. My claim is Gil Scott Heron, definitely, Biggie to Eminem to Kendrick Lamar, mostly, all set their thoughts to poetry and then in order to address their audience, found music to accompany their words. Classic Websters defined poetry, perhaps not classic but it's poetry.
Fight hard fly high it's the height of the flight.
I totally agree but we have to admit that not all rap is thought provoking and intelligent. Some is utter trash and does nothing but reinforce ignorance.
i think you're missing the big picture. that's not what rap OR poetry is all about. poetry can be just straight up story telling. If you were to compare pac to a poet it would be someone like langston hughes. a folk poet so to speak who wrote for the people and not the scholars. Jay z is a genius in the sense that what he writes will need some dissecting 100 years or so into the future. what pac writes is honest and it's cut and dry...no tricks no gymnastics needed and that's a beautiful thing
Jay Z speaks the truth in this video..the one thing that pisses me off is when people say they love/hate a rap song and dont even take the time to understand and listen to the lyrics and meaning behind it.
meet the parents is an awesome song... tells an insightful story
Not just poetry but rap is everything to this world salute to the creater hiphop
wow you actually believe that bullshit don't you
Lol he is not creator of hip hop go to jamiaca america stole everything from other culture these fake black people acting like black people they are made in china
@@markgiordonello6710If you love heavy metal so much, why are you sitting in rap comment sections arguing with people who are simply enjoying the genre?
Go to a heavy metal comment section and talk about how everyone else is dumb and you’re a genius. You’re really proving the “Heavy metal fans often suffer from low self esteem and insecurity” study right.
@@markgiordonello6710 It took you a minute to respond to me 😂 Get a life
@@markgiordonello6710 Metal was fun while it was a lively genre; however the best acts have retired (after trying to make a rap album of course)
Now the rock and roll hall of fame is full of hip hop artists, the charts are only rap and pop, rolling stone is full of rappers faces, and metal radio stations have gone off the air. You lost.
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🎙️The Art of Poetry is Rap!!!💯
Rockefeller did say something right that rap is poetry in music form.
Truth!
@H00dN3rdz style is style. Trends come and go, people choose what they want to wear, it doesn't change who he is and what he delivers.
Yes, yes it is.
I've been saying that for the longest but people have been looking at me crazy.
Mc Solaar french rapper who rapped with the big shot such as Guru and Donald Byrd is widely recognized as a poet and a rapper here in France even among the intellectuals.
He is a smart man to change peoples mind about hip hop seeing as though alot of heads think it just thugs yapping about illegal activity. Heads should realize there are bad apples in every thing but the ones that shine, man are they bright... You have to see it to believe it!
Jay Z The Greatest Rapper To Live
Are you high?
Very well stated Jay Z!!! poet4life, Ms. Tomi X
There ought to be a history or sociology class for hip hop. It affects and connects with us on a daily basis. Rapping is story telling, and I think it's sad that some people won't see that fact. Just watch how it has helped molding each community in America, and even in other places, such as France, Germany, Haiti, South Africa, et cetera. Look how it has brought up topics and truths that people attempt to avoid.
i totally agree with you, most of the rap is terrible poetry, but check aesop rock - daylight or battery or big bang or no regrets, then you will gonna know how complex rap can be,
Rap is not a poetry but poetry is a part of rap because rap is bigger than poetry
Exactly. Beat production matters, flow and delivery matters, the way you piece together your words matters. That’s why 2001 is a hip-hop classic for example. Rappers like Dr.Dre and Tupac are not “genius lyricist” with mind blowing bars, but they are legends of the game for a reason.
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@ackapollo bro, he's one of the best lyricists alive today. Yeah hes putting out lame mainstream ish lately and not the raw, creative material he used to, but the way he has sent out what he was trying to say or deliver his message over the years with that creativity is what makes him one of the greatest
Amen brother
i here for school
i dont think dat normal da ya think
d;
Are you watching this for a PBSC class?
real shit !!!
very true
I really like this book; could be used in Sociology classes.
What's the full interview called ?
Poetic verse requires a verbal and grammatical rigour that 99% of rappers could never replicate. It's a totally different kettle of fish akin to comparing the paintings of Michelangelo to tags drawn on the side of bridges. Expression is a wonderful thing but without technical discipline it cannot truly be called art.
Absolutely. If we are classifying rap as poetry, it is a very low form of it. I prefer to liken it to percussive vocals that have the secondary effect of telling a story or adding to the ambience of the beat under it.
Jay-Z is the God of contemporary hip hop.
From asapmontona1212 i love jay
Rap lyrics did not begin as poetry and hardly used poetic techniques until Rakim came along and completely switched up the entire game. Since then rap lyrics have become more poetic but if they're at the point right now where we can wholeheartedly look at a rap verse and say it's poetry then I'm not sure. There's a difference between being poetic and being poetry. Rap is poetic but is it poetry? It's a grey area in my opinion and as someone who is a rapper but can also play devil's advocate and see both perspectives here, I'm not sure. :)
Kaizer-Man um no it’s been poetry the hell you talking about
Well that comes with Pac becoming a sort of urban myth in the hip hop community
U gotta realize that Pac was the center of alot of controversy in his career and Pac's voice and passion resonated with people in a way ppl like a Jay or Nas couldnt.
It wasnt soo much Pac's intelligent way with words but rather who he was or how people perceive how he was that makes him the heralded figure he is today
2 lines...in the same song...where he shouted out 2pac and 2 of his albums in the beginning of adlibs....
Greatest rapper ever, tupac comes short next to the king!
@will2334 have you read the book? is it worth reading
yea same
legittt
I CANT BELIEVE LIL WAYNE DISSED THIS GUY AND CALLED HIM FAKE!!!!! LIL WAYNE TAKES AWAY FROM *CULTURE* HE *TAKES* FROM SKATEBOARDING *TAKES* FROM ROCK AND ROLL AND *TAKES* FROM THE VERY REAL DRUG AND GANG CULTURE. jAY-Z *ADDS* TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WITH 1/4TH THE EFFORT.
i hate when people say dumb stuff like that, every rapper has there own styles
Don't forget about Shad and AZ
I agree with what he's saying. But I dont think it's true for the majority of mainstream artist out today. Recently hip hop has become about money and hits before intelligence and provoking thought.
What is de name of the interview
who'da thought he'd grow up to be a poet and not know it- eminem
jay z look like the portrait painting of ice cube's father in Barbershop.... LMFAO!!!!! Bwaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaahhahahhahaaaahahahahaha
Illmatic for example
@SoLo1sTSBoi Rap is not a stronger form of communication than singing. They are both art forms on a equal plain. Just as much as a picture tells a thousand words so does every other form of art. Wether you choose to sing, rap, paint, etc. It's all telling a story and sending a message into the world. Art is life and life is art. They are all expressions of life that people gravitate too. The one you may prefer is your preference but none is greater than the other.
@ElixTeflonDon he can't mention EVERYBODY who EVER grabbed a mic and was poetic wit it. And, in my opinion (focus on the "my opinion" part 1st), i dnt think Jay copies, or needs ta copy ANYONE. oh yeah...and i, admittedly, dont know who was the 1st to say it, but i doubt Pac was the 1st ta utter those words. just appreciate genius, bruh
@1980venom Why isn't Jay-Z poetry? If you listen to he's debutalbum, you can hear lot's of poetry in the music. You doesn't have to be poor to be a poet. Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Pete Rock, EPMD etc all did well in theire primetime, and they are considered poets. I ain't a Jigga-fan, but he do have som poetic content in his lyrics.
Speak the Truth Jay!!
@skillzofatree yeah, you are the only one.
@emanuelarad brother you forgetting people like Rakim! BIG! Common!
@SonnyA89 ....I feel you my brother. But don't insult lil-wayne's lyrical skill. The Carter III is a respectable album. Don't disagree, if you do disagree, listen to it carefully. Besides III and maybe II...And maybe 2 of his mixtapes, than yes, it is shit.
I was with him till he used "Big Pimpin" as an example. The rest though. Excellent. Every human being should watch this
if poetry can be one word or a few then i think rap is considered poetry maybe you havent gone deep enough to the genre or maybe other people hated it and you started to agree with the fact that the people around you hated it so you had to or maybe you never really gave it a chance and bashed it rap is poetry there are many people who make it poetry nas, rakim, and many others you just havent gone deep enough and probably only listen to a handful of fake rappers in the game now
what is the book his talking about callled?
i thought jay z was wack im starting to realize hes a great artist
for me its all about demographics, Hip Hop had made a huge impact by the end of the 20th century thanks to its spirit and intelligence, Hip Hop once appealed to those who aspired to those qualities whereas now it goes for the dickhead dollar, it pains me cos HipHops message used to be black america saying 'we are more than the media tells us' and now it leans to the opposite, pac and biggie were great artists but their image only drafted in the worst kind of audience, same with 50 and all them
Jay-Z is a real poet! People just don't understand the contemporain poetry😔
Girls girls girls girls i do adore lol yeh poetry.
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Rap means Rhythm And Poetry
Rap means rhythmic African poetry
But His last album was not poetry...
@slykchyk086 LOL u killing me.
I disagree.
Hip-hop/Rap ,
is a mathematical pattern.
It's being done on a specific timing.
With poetry,
there is no mathematical pattern.
Words can be placed,
anywhere you want them.
It could be messy ,
& doesn't even have to rhyme.
Math Hoffa ,
& the rest of the battle circuit,
are poets,
but Math can do both.
However,
his strength is in poetry.
Do you understand ?
They wouldn't be able
to spit those accapella bars
over a hip-hop beat,
because it doesn't fit,
inside the mathematical patterns.
It has too many words.
Some add more wording to it,
because the sentence
doesn't make sense,
& now it really doesn't fit .
Yeah, of course people aren’t putting free verse poetry in songs, because it’s arrhythmic and wouldn’t fit in a song format. Free verse isn’t the definition of petty though, it’s only a sub-genre.
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Which Biggie song does he reference??
smh..He just referenced Big Pimpin, in his explanation on wanting "Rap" to be taken seriously. All he had to do, is apologize in behalf of Lil Wayne, Kanye West's personality, and A LOT of today's stuff. And then simply say a few names: Lupe Fiasco, OutKast, Cee-Lo, Common, Eminem, Mos Def, Saul Williams, Brother Ali, Nas, K-Os, The Roots/Blackthought, Big KRIT, a whole SLEW of classic emcees, etc..and that would sum up his argument.
Don’t rap stand for rap and poetry?
rhymes and poetry
Rhythmic African poetry
My dude u have to read and listen to the music and analyze in urban context(hip hop culture)
I'll even refer u to the newer school of hip hop artists
Listen to a Kdot
Or a Pusha T
Or a Drake
Or a Kanye
Or hell listen to some of Jay-Z's work, listen to American Gangster
If u can listen to American Gangster and not see the poetry in it
Either you just havent developed the listening skills for rap or..jus not lookin at it in the context of hip hop
Fair enough, but even most of the artists you mentioned include cussing for no reason, acting like badasses, and narcissistic lyrics. So annoying
how come he dont mention tupac he start as a poet writer... tupac was the frist person thats said "rap is poetry" jay z is just copying everything pac said
Bro put a beat and you have a heat