Are Off Roaders Really Safe? | Fifth Gear Classic
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2020
- In this classic clip, from Series 3 of Fifth Gear, first broadcast in 2003, Tiff looks at the safety of off roaders.
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Tiff is one hell of a driver. drifting, competing, this driving, and what not he has showcased.
Should never have let Tiff go
That 'old range rover' looked quite nice, worth a fair bit of money now.
Was thinking the exact same thing.
Worth about 15k now lol
What, before or after? ;p
No they’re not. They’re known as Junk SUVs with expensive repairs.
That is for sure I laugh because tiff has a BMW X5 😂😂
Moral of the story: buy a wagon.
Add cool factor
Buy a sedan
All I got from this, is that you should just drive with a helmet on and knee protection?
@@arnemaeschaelck5012 and a roll
cage
no moral of the story is don't compare modern cars with ancient 4x4 on solid axles
Scandinavian flick does the job every time lol
Apart from in the Jag!
EugVR6 they don’t want the jag to spin, 5th gear have a huge history of faking videos to support their narrative
If in doubt.... Just plough into the back of the car in front...
And be at fault for causing the accident. Added to that, the driver you just rear-ended will claim for whiplash for good measure.
To be fair, the Rover has suspension designed for maximum suspension travel
That's the point, only drive one if you plan on using it off road, and not just as a daily driver.
this is just physics at work
I wonder why the windscreen was swapped for a toughened one. They’ve been laminated for years.
That is strange.
My dad had a 1977 Morris Marina that had a toughened windscreen. Many vehicles in the era of this Range Rover still had toughened windscreens. It was only until the late 60s that is was UK Law for all vehicles to be manufactured with toughened glass instead of plain glass. Toughened is far better than plain glass because in the event of a crash, at least you won't be cut to shreds. I think is was only until the early 80s when cars started using laminated windscreens.
I also wonder. Maybe the windscreen had been replaced by a former owner.
@@davidyoung9561 my dad had a Italian I remember he went to get it out of the garage one day and the windscreen was shattered for no reason we never did find out why
Tbf the stunt driver didn't even counter-steer to stop the Range Rover from rolling over
your average soccer mom who drives these wouldnt either
@@rdmz135 You sure? It is natural response, I think.
@@DashCamSerbia natural responses are not present in your average driver nowadays unfortunately. Luckily they have electronic aids nowadays to prevent natural selection.
@@CheapskateMotorsports luckily they have gadgets? Shouldn't that be 'Sadly they have gadgets'? If a car isn't safe without them you simply shouldn't buy them. It isn't you who reaps the fruits of your decision to buy the wrong car, it are those you share the road with.
it is not that he didn't counter steer its that he would have essentially been in an oncoming lane and its either trying to swerve to safety or likely crash head-on
FFS a 17 year old test in a 30 year old range rover
It still stands though, regardless of the age of the vehicle
He did say at the end that it wasn't a proper scientific test, and that they need one. Also, Tiff did not counter steer in the Jag either, so it was in a way a similar test.
Matt newer 4 by 4’s have lower centre of gravity causing it to be harder to roll over
Sick Skits well that, as well as systems like stability control
Sick Skits there crossovers your talking about.
Driving skill is more important than the type of the car
kwan kwankao I agree bad drivers do exist but in those situations with a high center of gravity the laws of physics just take over
1950’s callback!
Tiff without gray hair 👌
Very nice to see tiff 🙂🙂🙂 always
Tiff is a savage, that car had no choice but to stay flat on the road
I shouldn't wonder if he didn't use thehandbrake for added effect.
Dat sexy e39 tho
Tiff will always be linked to 5th Gear
That E39 thoo 😍😍
I'm guessing the windshield was swapped out for one that would be more dramatic upon impact?
damn this E39 is a beauty
Vicky looks like a cbeebies presenter 😂
I mean, new cars have new technology, the have esc, tcs, abs and are quite lower and more aerodynamic than the one before, would be nice if they tried this again with brand new cars
when was this episode recorded??
Possibly before you were born. 2003!! and the Range Rover's from the mid 80's.
2003. -_-
1:50 Nikki looks like James May
Manu z Vicky & yes
A 4x4 estate car then, with a bull bar of course.
Good video. The trend of SUV is rising.. They should be informed about the elevated CG.
Liau Yun I agree
You do realize that a modern SUV has stability control and far better suspension etc? They don't roll like this anymore lol. youtube 77 kph test to see how modern 4x4s do
Toxy your thick as a 4 by 6 plank boy!
@@fbboringstuff you're thick as honey 🍯 Got Winnie the Pooh going crazy after you
@@cudan2941 not a fan of Swedish magazine Teknikens Varld (Technology World) I see...
Counter steer? Hello?
0:56 "SUVs are less safe than normal cars" Uses a video of a Suzuki Samari/Jimmy which was modified to flip.
Which song at? 5:21 please help
No laminated glass for the windshield in the UK?
Not until the late 70s though some car manufacturers available in the uk would have had laminated glass.
That's a later Range Rover (likely late 80s to early 90s) and should have had a laminated screen fitted.
My guess is its had a screen replacement at some point in its life and someone has either been cheap or has mistakenly fitted a screen originally intended for an early 70s model. Makes sense as it would actually fit.
These were all crossovers… for that time I expected actual off-roaders, unlike today (except for the land cruiser), we still had a lot of those available back then.
grand cherokee wasnt, that had solid axles front and rear
This is 2020 and not that many things have changed, at least not for the average crossovers most people drive.
Seen Tiff's black hair after a long time
Which cars more economy on the test?
The song at 2:50 is "Minor Thing" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers
Extra points for Minor Thing.
3:15 GoPro Hero 0.5
Range rover knows how to combat roll!
After observing carefully I came to a conclusion that it's advisable to hit the car front of you because it's his fault... as he stopped his car on a busy motorway
No, your fault, you were driving too close
@@Random-nf7qb That's also true
Only you'll cop the fine and insurance for following too closely. I'd still try everything to avoid him and stay on my wheels.
@@Random-nf7qb in my country it's always the fault of the car hitting from behind, NO MATTER WHAT, you should keep your distance
bring back #TiffNeedell!
That range rover looked so nice probably worth alot of money
Those grand cherokees are like impossible to roll lol
Last shelter advert keeps popping up 🙄
that Xtype jag handles well...
It a Mondeo, it is known to handles well!
Anything is safe - it’s the driver, not the vehicle! 😎
Maneuvering like that in an old Range Rover is not logical. You'd want to hit the brakes and soften the impact. Btw that RR was pre sway bars. They were added in later models and made a huge difference. If you have one without and drive primarily on road, get a set of sway bars!
it doesn’t even have ABS, neither a great stopping distance
What surprises me about this is not how easy it is to roll the 4x4, but how difficult it is to roll the car.
If you have to swerve to avoid hitting the car in front, you were most likely tailgating or not paying attention.
Why did the windshield shatter? Should be safety glass
There's a big difference between a 4x4 with solid axles and a crossover SUV
I have a feeling that Range Rover had its center of gravity raised a lot with those modifications. And it's quite far from how those previously mentioned SUVs are contructed.
Range crashed R.I.P
ok... the X3 is not a 4x4 as Jeremy Clarkson said
No one has ever died in a Volvo XC90.
The landrover driver was far too close behind. I’ve owned several TD5’s - strangely enough, never rolled one! 😏
The roll cage will have added to the centre of mass being high.
Why do all their videos have the quality like a video from 2004?
This was recorded in 2003
Why are they reuploading them on yt then?...
@@gamingcool69 Beats the hell out of me!
Keep your distance and break you don't need swerve
I would honestly be in that rear end collision than a roll over cause it’s safer
Suv's and off-roaders, crossovers should be limited to 140kph and heavily taxed and tested every 3 months
No modern car, SUV or off-roader rolls over while swerving, they have plenty of electronics and high tech suspensions which keeps them on the ground. But when you add another factor such as a curb, ditch, guardrail, flat tire or hitting another car it becomes a different story. In a situation like that the electronics and suspension won't do their job properly anymore and the laws of physics take over, meaning a car with a higher centre of gravity compare to it's width will roll over quicker.
2:45 الحين هاذة الشايب يهجول؟
I would say they are/ish
That range rover haș minimum 30 years lol do with a 2020
No deaths in Volvo XC90 since it was introduced.
if this could happen i'm too scared of off roaders!
why didnt they also do it with a new SUV?
2 reasons , mostly for the biased result , & also the cost implication
@@mark-1rc502
And mostly because 'SUVs' were far less common when this was shot in 2003 and cars like the Classic Range Rover were very common back then and there were no direct equivalents in great numbers on the roads...
Ironically I was thinking of selling my X-Type Jag for a 4x4....don't think I'll bother now.
So let’s see, a 20 year old test, with a car from the early 90s is swaying your opinion? A. They didn’t even bother trying to counter steer in this experiment, B. SUVs come standard with all sorts of accident avoidance technology today, C. SUVs are still safer than sedans and cars, even moreso today with the likelihood of an SUV accident encounter being higher for car drivers, and D. This video has a high ratio of dislikes because it’s very “The world is going to end” when it’s just a simple rainstorm. It’s creating an issue that’s not there. SUVs will always be more likely to roll over, that’s obvious, but in an 05 Suburban I’ve swerved and did not roll over because of basic knowledge of how to drive. I once ran over a MASSIVE log on the highway doing 85 MPH with traffic, the car hopped up into the air and landed perfectly fine. This is fearmongering, you’re falling for it, and worse yet you’re taking advice from a video that has a 30 year old Range Rover as the test car; a time when seat belts and airbags were optional, and some cars had no headrests. I’d still purchase the SUV because the SUV is safer. Fact, proven numerous times. You’re unlikely to roll over.
Unless you specifically need the 4x4 for an off-road purpose, I wouldn't bother either. Why waste money on all that extra fuel?
This is a 17 year old video using a knackered old Range Rover which probably dates the Range Rover to the mid to late 80's from it's looks.
So it's a 35 year old banger. Hardly a comparison for a 5 or even 10 year old SUV now and even the 5 year old is not even in the same league as today's brand new one's are.
It's like showing a safety video on 1970's F1 and asking if F1 is safe?
Let’s be fair. Given the choice we would ALL drive that old Range Rover every day as a run around than the latest model.
@@Landie_Man - Error... No!
The Zanzibarbarian I would. New stuff is very boring
That roll bar didn't help the cause
Still getting subs off tiff?
Why is the grafic like in the 90s? 😕
Because it’s almost that old! Did you think this was a modern video?
@@miketheman4341 But why did they let the video out so much later? 🤔
Ahoura Schodjaie
Typical of Top Gear and Fifth Gear. Both shows have older shows with more popular hosts. This is cute but it’s dishonest. Modern SUVs and crossovers are very safe compared with cars from 15 years ago. Also they are reviewing what is now a 30 year old RR. Who is driving a 30 year old SUV in 2020?
If they reviewed a 997 Porsche then rereleased the video it’s great. Many people are interested in older model sports cars but who is shopping a 20 year old SUV?
@@miketheman4341 yes, U r right! Thanks for Information.
this test feels totally assinine.
So this is how you park your dad's car in a hurry?
Moral of the story, If you are in a SUV and the car in front of you brakes suddenly all you should need to do is hit the brakes...especially if you have the correct following distance. And don't be the dumbass who swerves extremely aggressively in that situation if you are in a SUV.
SUV: *rolls over*
Škoda: “lets give her an ad about our new SUV”
tiffs daily drive is a bmw x5 , so he obviously doesent think they are that dangerous.
It's all in the way you hold your mouth. If you're aware of the extra nuances and drive accordingly, it shouldn't be a problem.
try it with that volvo or bmw... wont flip.
The range rover is a proper offroader with lots of suspension travel and a high center of gravity with no esc or stability control, any new SUV that isn't a proper suv like a g wagon etc would all be fine
@ well, nitwit, they show the volvo and bmw and insist it will flip like the rover. so yes they count in this argument. fifth gear made a misleading false claim.
with all the due respect SUVs and 4x4s are two completely different animals. 4x4's - proper ones - are not built for speed but off-road capabilities. rock crawling is not done at 45 or 65 miles an hour but at 3 or 5mph. you don't see 4x4's toppling over every rock they encounter. I can't believe the number of inaccuracies, mismatches and flaws put together in one film
I’m 100% safer in my discovery 3
There loads more factors too this
Potholes I have a 265/70r17 (most cars have a tiny sidewalk causing blow out when hitting pot hole
Driving conditions
Driving safely - you wouldn’t need too swerve if you at the correct distance
Stronger chassis’s
Height -better vision and above the impact
Age of the vehicle I’m gunna use a 30year car vs a 15year old car
I thought 5th gear was better that this
Just expect the unexpected on a motorway and don't daydream.
Here is the point: it's not about avoiding accidents with a 4X4 per se, it's about what happens when you're in an accident.
But the best accidents are ones that do not happen.
Just don't follow other cars too close.
Ye sure,what person in his right mind would make that almost complete right to left turn after avoiding an obstacle in his front? Come on lads,you can do better than this :)
Andy says the one with a duster as profile pic 😂
People swerving back onto their original lane. That's what I would do to avoid getting hit by traffic going the opposite way.
@@thearousedeunuch You are correct. It was a fair test albeit with an old SUV.
these tests are so scripted they make me laugh, especially w that Jag at the start, wtf it is not a Lada to spin like that naturally..Tiff is a Legend tho!
Tiff was playing an inexperienced driver
Sorin Tarna watch some videos of moose tests without ESP
Suv aren't good to avoid accident, but they are when they happens
I feel bad for the range Rover
“Are off-roaders safe” said no one ever……
SUVs are a fucking joke but they just getting more and more popular
He then went out and bought a daily driver that is an x5 for his wife. Such irony.
That "profesional stunt driver" dragged the wheel too hard. In situation like this, it's enough just a small pinch of the wheel to get the job done
The point was to show how easy is to roll over a old SUV. Some normal driver might react the same
Oooo
Omg
The car was modified to the point it was going to be deliberately rolled over.
Thank you 5th gear, for getting one more gopping SUV off the roads.
@ Well if it does, the owner's insurance will be battered, and so will the owner.
I like how he's trying to roll the car without even a helmet on. He would have been severely injured if he had rolled it.
Well to be honest they used a Sport Jaguar, use a Passat,Camry or some kind of regular sedan and the story would have been very different
@ Nonsense
He knows that the centre of gravity is nowhere near high enough to flip the car over by swerving alone.
Lame, one test in an notorious 4x4. It's like being shocked if a Bronco was to roll. Why didn't they show the rav or X5!?
Firstly, for effect; secondly, a Rav4 or X5 are substantially more expensive cars to be smashing up like that.
If I had an SUV I wouldn't swerve to avoid the collision. But I would let the collision happen and let the car infront withstand the whiplash.
So kind of you. Remind me never to get in your way. Prick 🙄
@Luis Bolanos Exactly.
Why we would risk our lives when the person ahead is hitting the brakes harder knowing there is another car behind.
Well in the U. K your strategy would result in you loosing your license, a massive fine and possibly jail where hopefully you may be butraped.
@@S1eeperServ1ce
It's better than being dead in a toppled over car in the middle of the highway right?
And that too for someone else's mistake.
@@suwaibakhtar2491 I'd rather be dead than endure the fate I described 😂
Tesla model X
William Kwan that thing just won’t roll😂
Cars can be rolled it's just a little bit harder . Plus tiff is a professional driver. Plus this demonstration was done in a safe environment. But yea we get the idea.
To be honest, I've seen hatchbacks rolled on a perfectly straight and flat piece of motorway, apparently without having contacted any vertical element of the road infrastructure or any other road users.
Also, "SUVs" (I hate that term, don't know why) are better driven with the same care and precaution as is due the operation of a light truck or commercial vehicle. That is, swerve and smoothly catch, not swerve and swerve. I've dodged plenty of wildlife in all sizes of truck from 4-wheeler to semi trailer without crashing using that handy method.