What if Germany won ww1

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @killerferrets2811
    @killerferrets2811 2 года назад +1576

    I cannot escape hoi4 and alternate history.

  • @varixalint
    @varixalint 2 года назад +1942

    I kinda forgot u were a hoi4 player and not just some history guy who shows up on shorts every so often

  • @wolkrieth2394
    @wolkrieth2394 2 года назад +435

    HOI4 has grown in relevance massively these past years.

    • @drm.himself
      @drm.himself 2 года назад +8

      You mean comparatively, right?
      Because almost nobody knows what a HOI is, and why there's four of them.

    • @thefatbob3710
      @thefatbob3710 2 года назад +2

      @@drm.himself most games don’t get past there first game tf you talkin bout 😂

    • @wolkrieth2394
      @wolkrieth2394 2 года назад +3

      @@drm.himself yes, Its no CoD but more people know about it then I'd ever guessed.

    • @RexOedipus.
      @RexOedipus. 2 года назад

      And became a melting pot of radical ideologies

    • @thefatbob3710
      @thefatbob3710 2 года назад +1

      @@RexOedipus. someone takes memes seriously

  • @gigamilkloverchad84
    @gigamilkloverchad84 2 года назад +218

    Makes me think of games like Wolfenstein that are based off a similar change in history it also makes you wonder if the Nazis would have ever been a thing

    • @dylanauger7316
      @dylanauger7316 2 года назад +90

      Almost certainly not. A lot of that hatred was stirred up because of their loss in ww1.

    • @gigamilkloverchad84
      @gigamilkloverchad84 2 года назад +7

      @@dylanauger7316 you make a good point

    • @violetraven9440
      @violetraven9440 2 года назад

      @@dylanauger7316 yeah the closest we would have gotten would likely be the United States taking a similar path if not it would likely be something more akin to the Russian civil war

    • @dylanauger7316
      @dylanauger7316 2 года назад +9

      @@violetraven9440 and frankly if the US had done what germany did in the 40s we probably would have won 💀

    • @titantrainer592
      @titantrainer592 2 года назад

      I doubt hitler would’ve been enough of a dick If they won the first one

  • @MT-iw6sl
    @MT-iw6sl 2 года назад +733

    Yeah, all that debt France and Britain took from the US is the ONLY real reason they got involved. If there weren’t so many loans taken, they could’ve stayed out of the war easily. People talk about the Lusitania and the Zimmerman telegram but no, those huge loans from the USA put loads of indirect pressure to make sure they’d get their money back.

    • @everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773
      @everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 2 года назад +66

      Yup, and this was after constant arm twisting. The US house did not want to approve these at all because of foreign entanglements. However they got reluctantly approved on humanitarian arguments...as well at the time the British Pound was the international reserve currency.
      Honestly even a victorious Germany would have been a better outcome.
      There wouldn't have been a need to release Lenin to Russia. Causing the communist revolution and thus the Cold War.
      The US at the time would have gone a ideological shift back to isolationism and removal of the Fed Reserve.
      At the time people were still not happy about the Fed Reserve act. On top of Wilson trying to push Global Americana.
      Then again it's like asking...what if Wilson lost the election and Theodore Roosevelt won.

    • @zockingtroller7788
      @zockingtroller7788 2 года назад

      @@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 and with Germany winning, there wouldn't have been the treaty of versailles (aka the single worst contract ever signed), which means the German people would be happier,
      Which definitely lessens the chance for someone like Adolf rising to power.
      But maybe what would have followed instead could have been worse

    • @braydenebel8799
      @braydenebel8799 2 года назад

      @@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 “back to isolationism and the removal of the federal reserve”
      Based

    • @nikey2110
      @nikey2110 2 года назад +25

      @@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 Maybe so on an international level, but I can't imagine that a combination of isolationism and perpetual laissez-faire capitalism would do america very well.

    • @caseygriffith9806
      @caseygriffith9806 2 года назад +1

      Your so right it's not like we were attacked that caused us to enter the war it was loans

  • @Aegis---
    @Aegis--- 2 года назад +31

    Unironcially kaiserreich is the best written scenario of what would of happened if Germany won ww1

  • @aaronpalmer7425
    @aaronpalmer7425 2 года назад +182

    Fun fact the loans weren't paid back even in this reality they were forgiven

    • @str2010
      @str2010 2 года назад +13

      Well, it would also cripple 2 humongous empires, which the US traded with.

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 2 года назад

      Yep. Hence the conclusions reached in the video are bullshit.
      Plus even back then the US economy was far more resilient than that or any European country (or all of them put together really) and America could have decided "fuck it, let's take Germany out" and actually done it, followed by instituting Pax Americana from the Mediterranean to the Russian border.

    • @prestonjones1653
      @prestonjones1653 2 года назад +7

      No wonder we're in such massive amounts of debt if we loan out tons of money and just forget about it.

    • @palehorseman8386
      @palehorseman8386 2 года назад +25

      Yes and no. The loans weren't paid back but after WW2 the US convinced it's allies to allow it to store their gold reserves. The US still has those reserves to this day despite being asked to return them

    • @truffeltroll6668
      @truffeltroll6668 2 года назад

      @@prestonjones1653 but, that's not what debt and loans are???

  • @MonsieurWeevil
    @MonsieurWeevil 2 года назад +26

    That last quote 😑
    Every man a King!

    • @Universal_Friendship
      @Universal_Friendship 2 года назад +1

      Long makes a dictatorship and compromises with the KKK in most games.

    • @thorpeaaron1110
      @thorpeaaron1110 Год назад +1

      ​@@Universal_FriendshipLong is based man who's anti KKK

    • @simonfuli2469
      @simonfuli2469 4 месяца назад +1

      He even tricked the kkk.

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 2 года назад +11

    Kaiserreich is indeed the best mod for Hearts of Iron. It fleshes out close to every single country with specific decisions and national goals.

    • @baul997
      @baul997 2 года назад +1

      Road of 56 is pretty high up there too in terms of just content

    • @justusP9101
      @justusP9101 Год назад

      I also love TNO

  • @stakuyi
    @stakuyi  2 года назад +29

    Check out the video here ruclips.net/video/Yi5cClFZGuI/видео.html

    • @viligerm6592
      @viligerm6592 2 года назад +2

      I've seen Kaiser redux but not kaiser reigh

    • @viligerm6592
      @viligerm6592 2 года назад +1

      Americanrich

    • @alfredoyelisa
      @alfredoyelisa 2 года назад +3

      I think you forgot to pin it

    • @fedos
      @fedos 2 года назад +1

      Nice of RUclips to bury this nine comments down.

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 2 года назад

      Pin this comment pls :3

  • @conangaming2156
    @conangaming2156 2 года назад +109

    “Down with the traitors up with the stars”
    God damn it, I’ve just gotten battle cry of freedom out of my head, now it’s back in there.

    • @CafeLiquerstreams
      @CafeLiquerstreams 2 года назад +8

      As soon as he said this I thought 'oh god he's a macathurist'

    • @edgardox.feliciano3127
      @edgardox.feliciano3127 2 года назад +5

      @@CafeLiquerstreams you mean a Loyalist, you traitor!

    • @CafeLiquerstreams
      @CafeLiquerstreams 2 года назад +7

      @@edgardox.feliciano3127 bruh I'm just a simple exile from England, supporting new England in its rightful existence and dominance, don't tread on me

    • @edgardox.feliciano3127
      @edgardox.feliciano3127 2 года назад +3

      @@CafeLiquerstreams DOWN WITH THE TRAITORS, UP WITH THE STARS!

  • @PossessedPotatoBird
    @PossessedPotatoBird 2 года назад +8

    Every man is a king

  • @megancurrigan1268
    @megancurrigan1268 2 года назад +6

    This is a real John Reed moment.

  • @KJ-cj6qq
    @KJ-cj6qq 2 года назад +25

    I so want a kaiserreich movie, we got man In the high castle, like cmon

  • @thegamingbrick146
    @thegamingbrick146 2 года назад +4

    Yooo I didn’t expect Hoi4 here LOL

  • @Ghost.girI.
    @Ghost.girI. 2 года назад +21

    Ah, Kaiserreich. My favorite lost cause.

  • @Erraddo
    @Erraddo 2 года назад +2

    In the Kaiserreich universe, someone went "but what if they lost?" and wrote Fuhrerreich, which is another mod.

    • @marthvader14
      @marthvader14 2 года назад +1

      So vanilla Hoi4?

    • @Erraddo
      @Erraddo 2 года назад +1

      @@marthvader14 with some minor differences yes

  • @vixen878
    @vixen878 2 года назад +3

    Hoi4 is so much more fun when ou use your imagination to immerse yourself I love it, its better with a friend haha

  • @wesleyredmond3464
    @wesleyredmond3464 2 года назад +2

    Bro your channel is doing GREAT. Glad to see that💯 keep up the amazing content

  • @Joshua_N-A
    @Joshua_N-A Год назад +1

    No Versailles, but WW2 will be Red Alert.
    *Hell March intensifies*

  • @thegeneralissimo470
    @thegeneralissimo470 2 года назад +8

    Kaiserreich!
    Hail the Kingfish!

  • @Ali-sj7kx
    @Ali-sj7kx 2 года назад +1

    Best thing is that every country has detailed Focus trees, Egypt has it's own Roaring 30s with Hollywood on the Nile as an example

    • @kiankier7330
      @kiankier7330 8 месяцев назад

      you mean most country have focus trees

  • @wudegoddd
    @wudegoddd 2 года назад +1

    Ricky Gervias called, he wants his facial hair back

  • @DarkLobster69
    @DarkLobster69 2 года назад +1

    My favorite thing, is there is a mod, which I can’t remember the name of, but it’s from the point of view of someone from the Kaiserreich world making a what if the Entente won WW1

    • @airl10
      @airl10 2 года назад

      I think your talking about Fuhrerreich.

  • @yingyangmapper5399
    @yingyangmapper5399 2 года назад

    Finally HOI4 is somewhat relevant

  • @TwpsynMawr
    @TwpsynMawr Год назад

    A better world in my opinion. Atleast we would all be united and have a thing in common across the globe

    • @therealrtx5645
      @therealrtx5645 Год назад +1

      the kaiser has no intention of world domination but well still relevant

    • @TwpsynMawr
      @TwpsynMawr Год назад

      @The real RTX well not in the cartoon sense of things no. But he wouldn't have stopped at russia and Europe 😅

    • @therealrtx5645
      @therealrtx5645 Год назад

      @@TwpsynMawr Well

  • @natmaldonado80
    @natmaldonado80 2 года назад +2

    People loyal to McArthur cannot be trusted. As Chairman Reed once said: break the chains, my friend🔥

  • @darthnater9819
    @darthnater9819 Год назад +1

    Louder, we want Browder!

  • @MyViolador
    @MyViolador 2 года назад +5

    Would have been a small sacrifice for a greater good.

  • @asadpepe4282
    @asadpepe4282 2 года назад

    Man getting all the hoi4 fans he already had more hooked

  • @alexfernandez882
    @alexfernandez882 2 года назад +1

    The good ending, at that point we even could've swapped in and taken some land back

  • @chaytonrodriguez4468
    @chaytonrodriguez4468 Год назад

    "Syndicalist labor will crush Long & Macarthur!"

  • @25geagle
    @25geagle 2 года назад +1

    I dare you to play Serbia in Kaiserreich, absolute hell

  • @mr_h831
    @mr_h831 2 года назад +1

    Dude I dont have to play a mod to see what a prelude to a second civil war looks like in the united states, I'm fuckikg living it, right down to the speeding towards another great depression.

  • @darrianweathington1923
    @darrianweathington1923 2 года назад +2

    I often wonder how the world would be if the Khan had lived

    • @roryross3878
      @roryross3878 Год назад

      "Every man dies." Tribal succession crises destroy empires so much faster than any more complex trend lol.

  • @inquisitierdavis821
    @inquisitierdavis821 2 года назад

    Every man a king

  • @Guztenify
    @Guztenify 5 месяцев назад

    Damn, that timeline looked nicer...

  • @mr.mercury4247
    @mr.mercury4247 2 года назад

    I honestly think KaiserReich is just a German power fantasy and that I found several things in the mod that made so little sense it wasn't even funny, the America part was pretty interesting though.

  • @EinsamPibroch278
    @EinsamPibroch278 2 года назад +1

    I need to have built my time machine sooner.

  • @allibababoo
    @allibababoo 2 года назад

    The backdrop for these videos should be civ 6 gameplay

  • @Becca_hist
    @Becca_hist 2 года назад +1

    Just wait until you hear about Kaiserredux

  • @skitzo1048
    @skitzo1048 2 года назад

    hoi4 giving the Germans hope yet again

  • @icarus8108
    @icarus8108 2 года назад

    No nazis or Soviet Union sounds pretty good

  • @danidanoo9374
    @danidanoo9374 2 года назад +3

    I would like that outcome.

  • @crazywarriorscatfan9061
    @crazywarriorscatfan9061 2 года назад

    Forgot you play Hoi4. Confused me for a sec on why you were talking about Kaiserreich

  • @Wineblood
    @Wineblood 2 года назад +2

    Someone remind me of kaiser reich in a few hours. It sounds cool but I'll have forgotten about it when I wake up

  • @pavelthedog6939
    @pavelthedog6939 2 года назад +1

    I've never even considered that outcome... something new to think about

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 2 года назад +2

      You should check alternate history stories
      Mostly found in forums about the topic, but reddit may have some too
      It's pretty cool most of the time

  • @valx7586
    @valx7586 2 года назад +2

    I love how it also becomes a proxy war for all the political ideologies of the world with arms and men pouring in

  • @leecrawford6560
    @leecrawford6560 2 года назад

    That would be cool
    To see a universe where that history got unveiled like that
    (In a Conceptual way of thinking)
    Depression is not a good thing

  • @Kaiser_von_Europa
    @Kaiser_von_Europa Год назад +1

    I feel like this mod is biased with germany cuz literally everyone just frames them as the bad guys and always give them bad things for their downfall but the good stuff that can make them a like the U.S. a peacekeeper and not some warmongering nation

  • @burnies7912
    @burnies7912 2 года назад

    The world would be better if germany would win💪🏻

  • @voidwalker9746
    @voidwalker9746 Год назад

    Pelley reigns supreme

  • @YoBen100
    @YoBen100 2 года назад

    Sounds like Man in high castle

  • @daboos6353
    @daboos6353 2 года назад

    You should talk about TNO....

  • @randomguy6152
    @randomguy6152 2 года назад

    i like kaisereichs version of the war

  • @mqdboy9278
    @mqdboy9278 2 года назад

    Kaiserreich is not radical enough, try kaiserredux :))))))

  • @coryclark5442
    @coryclark5442 2 года назад +1

    I want to know how the world would be if the Roman empire never failed

  • @Tuff-q
    @Tuff-q 2 года назад +24

    Interesting

  • @johnywhat8601
    @johnywhat8601 2 года назад

    An interesting alternate history mod would be if the Missouri compromise never took place, and if Washington's decision to only allow new states to join as anti-slave states was maintained.

  • @theconfederacyofindependen7268
    @theconfederacyofindependen7268 2 года назад

    But like real history, Germany would pay that loans

  • @Lordgrayson
    @Lordgrayson 2 года назад

    Idk this doesn't seem right. It's not like Germany had the money to pay back their loans after the war, I think the exact same situation would still play out regardless. Especially since just because Germany won doesn't wipe away their debt to the US unless they also wanted to go to war with the US who spent the whole war sending supplies to the UK and France and getting right off of it(that's part of what caused the roaring 20's in the first place)

    • @sw1nkz50
      @sw1nkz50 2 года назад

      They still have a depression in Kaiserreish, they've stayed afloat though because of war reparation payments, it's the reverse of real life where Germany payed France and Britain keeping them afloat till they got back up as well. But neither the french nor the British had the industry to get the money to pay back the loans and still get national income like the Germans had, so Germany just gets a few years of economic recession before it starts booming, and just like the US, too much booming economy causes a collapse in the economy and a massive depression, now kick started in Germany instead of the US.

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 2 года назад

    Economy collapses, extreme ideologies clashing. Kinda sounds like today...

  • @2650-h8m
    @2650-h8m 2 года назад

    Can you please make a video on the dacians?

  • @vivienboo1576
    @vivienboo1576 2 года назад

    The roaring 20s applied to germany back then btw (Die Goldenen 20er) also known as the Golden 20s

  • @awesomegoat5719
    @awesomegoat5719 2 года назад

    In the civil war Alaska just chilling

  • @klken
    @klken 2 года назад

    Ahh yes let's believe in hoi 4 the geopolitical strategy game

  • @lordofhack5368
    @lordofhack5368 2 года назад

    Given that Germany hasn't erupted into civil war after the allies decimated their economy (aka the real reason for WWII according to Churchill) I doubt America would, but a neat thought I guess

  • @greatjagras6381
    @greatjagras6381 2 года назад +1

    Depends, from what I understand or I could be wrong, US was never fully paid back during or after WW1, WW2 came around and US gave more "loans". Look at Ukraine, I still believe they cannot win but in the slim chance they do win, do you think we won't put them in debt for all the weapons and ammunition we "loaned" them?
    US might have still had a roaring 20s, or in fear that Germany would set eyes on them for supplying France and Britain, declared war while probably looking to China and Japan for an alliance.

    • @Blazedreptile
      @Blazedreptile 2 года назад +2

      I believe us brits were the only ones to pay back in full, the USA gave others debt relief.

    • @CedarHunt
      @CedarHunt 2 года назад

      Nobody ever actually paid back loans taken out as part of the war, the US forgave all of that debt at the end of the conflict. Britain paid back Marshall plan loans which were for reconstruction but came about after the war was over.

  • @donb2527
    @donb2527 2 года назад

    From what happened in the great depression before WW2, I doubt there would be a civil war in america, I think most likely the same thing would happen as happened during the great depression.

  • @dbz9393
    @dbz9393 2 года назад

    Do you ever think about what would happen if Germany won ww1?
    Me: constantly .. oh wait you said ww1

  • @notyouraverageaustrian
    @notyouraverageaustrian 2 года назад

    historian explains a hoi4 mod. very historical much science

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 2 года назад

      Maybe because it's easy to come up with the same story when history is static?

  • @WeegeeSlayer123
    @WeegeeSlayer123 2 года назад

    Down with the eagle, up with the cross

  • @nathanielnelson8025
    @nathanielnelson8025 2 года назад

    Love the hoi4 map

  • @patrickyoung8027
    @patrickyoung8027 2 года назад +3

    You said France and Germany first then went back and said it was united Kingdom confused me for half a minute

  • @danielsonlisik534
    @danielsonlisik534 2 года назад

    Germany just wanted to capitulate France and Russia

    • @northwesteastsouth7437
      @northwesteastsouth7437 Год назад

      Not really they doesn't wanted to capitulate russia because willhelm and nicholas was cousin

  • @lukezeiolf6977
    @lukezeiolf6977 2 года назад

    “Poorly” as opposed to what we’re like today…

  • @generalfeldmarschall3781
    @generalfeldmarschall3781 Месяц назад

    A better timeline than our

  • @dandar4843
    @dandar4843 9 месяцев назад

    What would’ve happened if England said “screw the French and the Belgians” and simply sided with Germany (or remained neutral or something like that)? I always wonder this

  • @rebelcommander7starwarsjur922
    @rebelcommander7starwarsjur922 2 года назад +1

    What’s better Germany 🇩🇪 winning ww1 or ww2 it’s ww1 right no hitler

  • @Jaxon_America
    @Jaxon_America 2 года назад

    Wait till you get the mindfuck of Kaiserredux
    All hail the king in yellow!

  • @McBuff
    @McBuff 2 года назад

    I already played “Wolfenstein: The New Order,” I know how this goes

  • @makiskanyt9269
    @makiskanyt9269 2 года назад +3

    Yeah it is a great mod that needs better than a 1500€ worth of pc

    • @Lady_Amelia-Eloise
      @Lady_Amelia-Eloise 2 года назад +1

      Just for Kaiserredux, Kaiserreich runs fine on my 2016 laptop

    • @makiskanyt9269
      @makiskanyt9269 2 года назад

      @@Lady_Amelia-Eloise I'm pretty sure it runs fine but it is slow asf

  • @G0m3rPy13
    @G0m3rPy13 2 года назад

    Anyone else notice his mistake about the loans? He first says Germany and France then say’s Britain and France.

  • @SergioKoolhaas
    @SergioKoolhaas 6 месяцев назад

    There already was a great depression of 1920/21.

  • @Joseph_Stuntn
    @Joseph_Stuntn 2 года назад +1

    Hey stakuyi, I don't know enough about the battles or events of world War 2 to answer this question but I've always been interested in what could have theoretically happened had america just retaliated and defeated japan but never joined the Eastern front against Germany, if you see this comment please make a video. I am unbelievably curious what you think would have happened

    • @jordanmunro3352
      @jordanmunro3352 2 года назад

      I can answer this handily. The soviets would’ve controlled most of mainland Europe

    • @Joseph_Stuntn
      @Joseph_Stuntn 2 года назад

      @@jordanmunro3352 I was more talking of key events that would have been changed throughout the course of the war, such as d-day or the entire liberation of France, I know the end goal would most likely end in one of three ways but I don't know enough of the key events that could've had major effects

    • @your_averageboi9083
      @your_averageboi9083 2 года назад

      @@Joseph_Stuntn There is a Hoi4 Mod just for you! It is called the Thousand Week Reich (TWR) where America beated the Japanese but didn’t fought Germany. In the mod, Russia is fractured and Germany is big but slowing dying.

  • @lancejay4958
    @lancejay4958 2 года назад

    But hey, that's just a theory, a GAME theory

  • @rexromana
    @rexromana 2 года назад

    Huh feel like we may be headed to a version of that

  • @eyesonlyvideo
    @eyesonlyvideo 2 года назад

    Sounds like instead, it took about 108 years for the warring factions to become extreme and civil war to loom on the horizon instead.

  • @rafaelsc3071
    @rafaelsc3071 2 года назад

    Dixie is back

  • @TheArneschwindt
    @TheArneschwindt 2 года назад

    WWI was the conflict in which the winners blamed Germany for starting it. So with reversed outcome Serbia and France would have been blamed guilty. However millions of a generation dead for the ambitions of old men. Not much changing compared with today.

  • @Roman-fg4nf
    @Roman-fg4nf 2 года назад

    New England shall know peace. One way or another.

  • @kingdesktogoosegoosetime1259
    @kingdesktogoosegoosetime1259 2 года назад +1

    Day 44.... again of asking Stakuyi to play as Norway in Hoi4....

  • @umar-s3931
    @umar-s3931 2 года назад

    “I guess we’ll never know”- The artist formerly known as Kanye West

  • @0944clayton
    @0944clayton 2 года назад

    That’s one of my two favorite mods for hearts of iron that and Road 56 but I mean is it really such a bad alternate history. when we get the rebirth of Texas or the cult of Washington

  • @chance20m
    @chance20m 2 года назад

    I don't agree. Germany winning WWI doesn't necessarily mean completely conquering France, and certainly not the UK. The US likely would have many if not most of it's loans paid back, at least from the UK. And the total amount of loans to the allies during the entire war was ~$7 billion, against a ~$50 billion GDP *per year* for the US. Even in the unlikely event of a total loan default, it likely wouldn't have caused an early great depression.

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 2 года назад

    Also interesting fact:
    Britain finally their ww1 and ww2 debts in 2016!

  • @ovs8691
    @ovs8691 2 года назад

    If you're curious about where all the more, insane characters from the 1920s-50s are in the Kaiserreich universe, check out Kaiserredux

  • @Alex-mv6yp
    @Alex-mv6yp 2 года назад

    Mexico: ok time to build a wall, those gringos are very crazy right now and we don't need another revolution, oh my, did you feel that? like a disturbance in the force

  • @andrew3276
    @andrew3276 2 года назад

    Idk if the US necessarily splits in this scenario. It could’ve be united by a populist leader during the economic turmoil that ohhhh wait a second…

  • @kenji642
    @kenji642 2 года назад

    it was going so well until you mentioned hoi4 :(