Honestly I loved the ending to this game. It felt like I had just finished watching the most mind-blowing movie ever. I just sat through the credits in awe.
A lot of people (who only played andromeda or just one game of the trilogy) don't even know what chills the appearance of the reapers gave to players at the end of 2.
The whole ride was so emotional, so epic. Every small detail reflects huge amounts of work. They really set a new standard with this game. hell this is totally more than just a game.
Reapers are one of the most badass and coolest villains ever in any videogame or movie. Fucking awesome they are. Thanks Bioware for creating them and this epic franchise which will never be forgotten. Thank you.
As soon as Shepard looks out into the empty void of space and the war drums sound as the reapers descend on our beloved galaxy.... you get that warm fuzzy feeling inside knowing that in ME3... you're going to get to kill them all. :)
When they cut to the Reapers slowly powering up and approaching the Milky Way, I'll admit, I squealed like a newborn piglet. Mass Effect 3 is going to be craaazy awesome!
The "Destroy" ending is something like a suicide, but he warns Shepard that, in the future, trouble will come and they will have to deal with that. That point is, in my opinion, the only plot hole in the ending: the Catalyst could not accept anything that was not a solution and the "Destroy" ending is not one, under its point of view.
The fact that humans managed to survive all the weeks that it took Shepherd to mobilize forces and unite the galaxy speaks volumes about human tenacity.
That reminds of a certain quote, which I like to add to it: “You want to win a battle, get a Krogan. You want to win a war, get a Turian. You want to win an apocalypse, get a Human."
0:38 - 0:46 I wasn't actually able to find what official theme this part is part of, but sometimes when I walk my dogs, listening to a 1 hour ME theme compilation and hear this part I can see the Normandy flying away at the end of ME3 in front of myself and I almost cry... Good ol' memories :')
0:39 - 0:54 IS FUCKING EPICNESS ENDING ENTIRE SERIES!!! ME3 ending to me is normal and detailed in EC DLC. Every hero in history sacrifice for sake of goodness... P.S BIOWARE still continued ME series plz don't ever hate ME trilogy..
true words. I dearly made that sacrifice. So many great characters were lost during the game and like Mordin already said.... "Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong". Best game ever. Gotta go for another playthrough soon^^
My guess is in ME3 you will be traveling around gathering all the alien races together to fight the Reapers. Also if you spared the Rachni and geth from Legion loyalty mission they will join in the fight too. A lot of the ME3 will be determined by your actions in ME1 and 2 so I bet you will have to replay both of them to get the right endings in ME3.
There's a certain point at the end of ME3 where the gameplay changes noticeably. So long as you treat everything after that as if it were a deleted scene that's accidentally left in, it doesn't alter the fact that the rest of the trilogy is one of the greatest in gaming history. On-topic: this video reminds me of the best feeling of accomplishment I've ever gotten from a video game - completing ME2 on Insanity with all DLC and everyone alive. Also, that music is awe-inspiring.
The point is not what is written, but what is between the lines. Great part of the "magic" of science fiction is that you have to figure out how some things work in order to really understand (or create an understanding) of the piece you are analyzing. This is not a straightforward literary style and this is what attracts me the most in it. :) The Catalyst has received a task, but it does not think of it like its creators... and that is why its creators were its first victims.
I have to admit you were the closest one to ever convince me. In fact you partially did but I see it in a different way. To some extent I can see the catalyst making some sense because after all an AI doesn't think like a human. The catalyst thinks it's fulfilling it's purpose but because an AI doesn't have perspective thought like organics do, it's actually not doing what it was actually created to do. Kinda like a mad AI scenario only more unique.
I am not contradicting myself... I said it wants balance, not that it wants anyone to live. Balance, in this case, means that both must fulfill their functions (as I said). The point is that the Catalyst believes that, from a certain moment, synthetics will be dysfunctional and organics will always build synthetics, so advanced civilizations must be harvested in order for other civilizations to function. "Balance" does not mean everyone is happy, it only means everyone gets the same treatment.
People don't like it not because it's not a happy ending but because it doesn't make any fucking sense. The catalyst's illogical bullshit, the many plotholes and how choices didn't matter is what makes it so frustrating.
The reason they specifically chose Human colonies to absorb in ME2 and Earth to destroy in ME3 is because of Shepard, a human, being responsible for the death of Sovereign in the first game. They perceived Shepard and Humanity as the biggest possible threats, so take the strongest out first then move to the other races was probably there way of thinking.
I suspect the final ending of thegame will change not just on how you complete the final mission but on how many allies you spared/made in the previous games ... Rachni, Geth and Krogan alike ... if you ally with them all you suffer heavy losses but win the war with head held high ... if you didnt make any friends then its a total bloodbath with the Reapers vanquished but the galaxy in utter ruin
You're seriously asking "why"? Because he's practically saying: "I heard you don't want synthetics to kill organics, so I made synthetics to kill organics so organics don't make synthetics to kill organics". You never saw the "yo dawg" memes? Not to mention the many plot holes he brought and the way he contradicted Sovereign in ME1. Sovereign said: "we are each a nation, INDEPENDENT" and then the catalysts says: "I CONTROL the reapers". Is that enough or do I need to go on?
Ok, the reapers are coming. Something they dont normally do like that. My prodictions on ME3, all out war. I played the part of a nice guy, and have earned the trust of the Rachni, Geth, Krogan, and all other races. I suppose you have to convince them of the Reapers. I hope you get to do some space battles where your in control. There is also the Collector beam weapon, based off Reaper tech. In the description it said they can prohaps replicate it on a larger scale. There is a chance after all.
So you do agree that the catalyst shouldn't offer us the Destroy ending. Because he KNOWS that it wouldn't work thus allowing it contradicts his programming. Anyway just when I thought it couldn't get worse, the Leviathan DLC shows up basically telling me "don't ever underestimate Bioware's ability to make it worse. The catalyst's creators are so stupid that it doesn't matter if the catalyst makes sense, because they DON'T. When you get a chance to watch it, you'll see what I'm talking about .
I figure the armies assisting humans in the final battle will depend on the decisions made in ME1/2. For example: Did you spare the Rachni queen? They help if you did. Did you tell Mordin to keep Maelon's data after his loyalty mission? He will cure the genophage and the krogan will have an army, led by Wrex if you spared hem. Just a theory, it's what I would do were I on Bioware's design team.
@doritela2008 the game's science is sound, provided you take element zero into account, as it allows the manipulation of dark energy and mass. the ships move faster than light because they can use element zero cores to "trick" the universe into thinking that they have little no mass, and without the limitation that mass puts on speed (and the energy requirements thereof) they can move almost infinitely fast with mass relays.
In what concerns to diversity, I agree, but there is a different way to see it: The Catalyst did not believe in the peaceful existence in diversity and all endings except for "Synthesis" do solve this. "Destroy": The element that did not believe in peace in diversity (the Catalyst) is rendered powerless. "Control": The element that did not believe in peace in diversity is substituted. "Synthesis": The only scenario where diversity loses, for it ceases to exist. Diversity wins in 2/3.
Are the Reaper ships moving towards the galaxy, or are they just standing still with the camera panning away from them? Anyway, what I personally want as a feature in ME3 is that whoever your romance is (either one of the ME2 characters, or your ME1 romance if you didn't have one in 2) ends up joining the party almost immediately, and that it would allow you to choose to develop that romance even further, or dump them for somebody else.
@creapsmantic dark space is where light has YET to reach, and is so ridiculously far away (as shown at the end the reapers can see the entirety of the galaxy from where they are) that they could travel constantly for millions and millions of years and STILL not reach the edge of the galaxy, which i why they need the citadel mass relay to travel into inhabited space
The Geth did not prove the Catalyst wrong for coexisting for some limited time with organics and they were already planning a large change in their existence (the Dyson Sphere), that would be so dramatic as to be impossible for the current Geth to foresee its results to Geth civilization (in the words of Legion: "we will find our reason [to exist] later").
no it would only look like a human in its early stages, then it transforms into looking closer to what Sovereign and harbinger look like. If you see the end of mass effect 2 when the reaper fleet shows up. you see that the reapers have a different shape to them. but still have that same squid looking shape.
@HammerDown328 When I played through this the first time, me and my friends had the Xbox hooked up to my dorm's lounge TV, and the reaction at that moment was a very loud "OH SHIT."
It's not illogical. In the Catalysts mind, the function of a civilization is to evolve. He was letting some to accomplish their functions to a certain point, and then cutting them in order to let others function as well. Remember he thought "synthetics will wipe all organic life in the Galaxy"... no functionality for biologic life in that scenario. Sovereign also said Reapers had no beginning and no end... it was a strategy to inspire "superstitious awe", a part of the indoctrination process.
The galaxy is well and truly fucked, damn but that is a LOT of reapers. And remember, every one of them would obliterate the destiny ascension in a straight-up fight.
@doritela2008 also, regarding the use of solar power; the reapers are so far away from the light sources inside the galaxy that the power they would receive, even at 100% efficiency, would be almost nil, and since they no doubt require massive amounts of energy to function, it is a completely useless power source while in dark space
so apparently bioware started on mass effect 3 earlier this year before me2's release and they have all casting and scripting done already! they also said that if they continue to move at the pace they are now they will have the game out in the 3 quarter of 2011! thats pretty soon considering the gap between me 1 and 2 is like 2.5 years instead of 1.5
Well, "balance" has a very rational meaning to me. Organics and synthetics had both to function. The Catalyst needed to allow civilizations to execute their functions but believed that, at a certain point, they would all develop synthetics, which would destroy them and all other organics in the Galaxy, so it was necessary to perform the cycle in order to let the other civilizations flourish. The rebellion of the synthetics is, to the Catalyst, a fatality - and there is nothing implicit in it.
Gthang213 Is correct, all of the shown reapers are vastly different and yet very much the same, the only logical conclusion is that they begin looking like their 'host species' but end looking like the cuttlefish shape with characteristics of the host species. If all those shown in the ending are from the same species explain the differences.
Unless Shepard has some sort of nuke cannons on the Normandy SR-3 or something, hes gonna have some trouble killing all those Reapers :L Most inspirational music ever in a game!
You almost got it right, but there is no contradiction. Here are the Catalyst beliefs, as I see them: 1) There is NO way that synthetics and organics can coexist (it tried for millions of years) 2) Civilizations must function, but are individually expendable (more important is the process of evolution) 3) Organics and synthetics are equally relevant (so there must be time for synthetics to be developed) It balances those beliefs.
True. The Catalyst should'n offer us the "Destroy" ending. I think it is giving up his task when he does so, which is unacceptable for an AI. I will try to see Leviathan... I heard it is not as bad as people say... it is worse! :D
watching those reapers emerge into the light was one of the most bone chilling moments in all of vg or cinema history... I don't see how the galaxy has a chance... there are so many. One reaper was able to handle whole fleets, my bet is the Quarian fleet is going to get butchered defending everyone else.
naah we dont need to worry. at the rate they seem to be travelling and also the fact tha they're well outside of the galaxy emans we'll have a good few thousand years to prepare ;)
no its a reaper in the early stages of development. eventually it will turn into what sovereign and harbinger look like, that is when a reaper is a full adult
I can't help but wonder what allies Harbinger is going to marshal, because the Reapers can't come through so that we can fight them because we wouldn't stand a chance.
1) The depth is not in the colors, but in the different meanings of each ending. Destroy: A violent choice that leaves a door open for future devastation. Control: A reasonable pick with lots of benefits from Reaper "domestication", but lots of danger in the horizon. Synthesis: Both the Catalyst and Shepard accomplish their missions and the Galaxy is safe and peaceful. Shepard's sacrifice for the future is worth it. 2) Can a direct order from his Commanding Officer be considered "no reason"?
@shinobikid2 Let's not forget the Geth on your side if you reprogramme the heretics and the Quarian migrant fleet if you tell them not to go to war with the Geth. I doubt the Shadow Broker will help though, since y'know, I bet there'll be a mission with Liara where you have to kill him. (Which there was originally in ME2, but it was cut. Some of the audio files for her and shepard are still there on disc on the PC version)
Best way to stop the reapers is by recruiting Masterchief and Marcus fenix and other heroes. I bet Fenix would go inside a reaper and use his saw to destroy a lot of vital cables.
oh, and btw, I guarantee you that Haestrom's star has a direct connection to harbinger, my guess is that it has a connection to either killing him or where he is hiding
2nd comment: I thought of something else. What you said about the catalyst is still flawed because he also said he wants to restore order on the chaos of organics. Here's the problem: organics will always be chaotic, it's in their nature. So why is he letting future organics live? If he wants to restore order for good as he claims then don't allow any single organic species to prosper because no matter what, they WILL be chaotic. He has conflicting motivations and all of them make no sense!
@creapsmantic I'm pretty sure Harbinger is the Reaper leader and he will be the last boss in ME3 Because he was controlling the Collector leader and he was controlling the Collectors so yeah it's gonna be a hard boss battle.
@creapsmantic again, there is no physical barrier to stop them, it would just take so insanely long without the mass relays because FTL drives can only go so fast (hence the need for mass relays) why do you think sovereign was so determined to take control of the citadel? it's the only way to reach the galaxy, unless the reapers have a nigh-infinite power source and dont mind missing out on annihilating a few dozen civilizations in the meantime
@iKhicken she will...ya know, the funny thing about bugs is that they breed fast :D...maybe a huge bug fleet will eat up some reapers before the krogan and asari and qunari join the fray and slaughter themselves some nasty ancient machine aliens (reapers)
@EllboGrease27 Yeah i mean sovereign, not the unfinished reaper. I think the alliance lost 6 or more ships in the battle of the citadel just to destroy one reaper and its kinetic barriers. Now there is an army of reapers and im curious how they want to handle them all. But we'll see^^
0:39 - 0:53 ALWAYS gives me chills.
most righteous ending to ANY science fiction story, ever.
I literally just finished it and I was speechless. Moving onto the DLC and then 3.
still is...
Honestly I loved the ending to this game. It felt like I had just finished watching the most mind-blowing movie ever. I just sat through the credits in awe.
Me too
The most epic ending to any game ever. The levels of hype were enormous.
And the payoff was great, I almost cried with joy after I got everyone out of the suicide mission alive
*We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of **_every world_**. You cannot escape your doom.*
Gives me chills down my Spine
When I saw this scene for the first time my reaction was, 'Welp we are SOOO SCREWWWEEDDD"
Same. XD
Then with ME3's opening: We're royally screwed now!
Mass Effect 2 was perfect from the beginning to the end 🥰 This trilogy is something special to me, absolutely unforgettable
ME2 was the best of the series imo, ME3 was a huge clusterfuck. I've always looked at it as a letdown. 1 and 2, though... *Amazing.*
A lot of people (who only played andromeda or just one game of the trilogy) don't even know what chills the appearance of the reapers gave to players at the end of 2.
The whole ride was so emotional, so epic. Every small detail reflects huge amounts of work. They really set a new standard with this game. hell this is totally more than just a game.
0:46 Harbinger be like "Alright boys, we got an infestation in our galaxy. Time to get to work."
Lol
LOL
Lol
Some random red light: Are you sure about that?
0:47 that scene always gives me the chills and hype when we see the reapers coming back from dark space still awesome too 😄
Hands down, the most epic game ending I've ever seen :')
It feels so good when making a perfect ending and listen to this epic music..
This is definitely my favorite game ending of all time. Just those few seconds of the reapers all awakening is enough to send chills down my spine.
Reapers are one of the most badass and coolest villains ever in any videogame or movie. Fucking awesome they are. Thanks Bioware for creating them and this epic franchise which will never be forgotten. Thank you.
As soon as Shepard looks out into the empty void of space and the war drums sound as the reapers descend on our beloved galaxy.... you get that warm fuzzy feeling inside knowing that in ME3... you're going to get to kill them all. :)
When they cut to the Reapers slowly powering up and approaching the Milky Way, I'll admit, I squealed like a newborn piglet.
Mass Effect 3 is going to be craaazy awesome!
@@stefankondus1322 it really wasn’t that bad to be honest yeah more action shooter than rpg but still good
@@stefankondus1322 well the game is actually quite good, the only problem was EA and dlc.
@SpectreMoonfire well the game is actually quite good, the only problem was EA and dlc
They went all out on this. Should've known something was wrong when the lead writer just up and left just before they started work on Mass Effect 3
The "Destroy" ending is something like a suicide, but he warns Shepard that, in the future, trouble will come and they will have to deal with that.
That point is, in my opinion, the only plot hole in the ending: the Catalyst could not accept anything that was not a solution and the "Destroy" ending is not one, under its point of view.
The fact that humans managed to survive all the weeks that it took Shepherd to mobilize forces and unite the galaxy speaks volumes about human tenacity.
Like they were hit out the gate with a massive force at that… harbinger personally wanted to put humanity down first in hope of killing Shepard off
@@antman4671 it also explains why Harbinger wanted to harvest Humanity to create a new reaper for this cycle
@@GenshinLover283 yeah Mordin had a excellent line in ME2 where he said Humans genetic code is so different then other species.
That reminds of a certain quote, which I like to add to it: “You want to win a battle, get a Krogan. You want to win a war, get a Turian. You want to win an apocalypse, get a Human."
@@autoiko4300 ohhh!.....that's awesome dude!!🤩🤩
God bless you mass effect franchise * _ *
0:38 - 0:46 I wasn't actually able to find what official theme this part is part of, but sometimes when I walk my dogs, listening to a 1 hour ME theme compilation and hear this part I can see the Normandy flying away at the end of ME3 in front of myself and I almost cry... Good ol' memories :')
0:39 - 0:54
IS FUCKING EPICNESS ENDING ENTIRE SERIES!!!
ME3 ending to me is normal and detailed in EC DLC. Every hero in history sacrifice for sake of goodness...
P.S BIOWARE still continued ME series plz don't ever hate ME trilogy..
ryusof6 I love you
true words. I dearly made that sacrifice. So many great characters were lost during the game and like Mordin already said.... "Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong".
Best game ever. Gotta go for another playthrough soon^^
I love the alternative end that depicted Joker as the next MC lmao
My guess is in ME3 you will be traveling around gathering all the alien races together to fight the Reapers. Also if you spared the Rachni and geth from Legion loyalty mission they will join in the fight too. A lot of the ME3 will be determined by your actions in ME1 and 2 so I bet you will have to replay both of them to get the right endings in ME3.
Bro was correct
Thanks for uploading this! This really does hype you up for the third one!
This is why I'm in love with RPG's including JRPG's. It's now my favorite genre for an adult.
this was where the series ended
This trilogy had the best music
There's a certain point at the end of ME3 where the gameplay changes noticeably. So long as you treat everything after that as if it were a deleted scene that's accidentally left in, it doesn't alter the fact that the rest of the trilogy is one of the greatest in gaming history.
On-topic: this video reminds me of the best feeling of accomplishment I've ever gotten from a video game - completing ME2 on Insanity with all DLC and everyone alive.
Also, that music is awe-inspiring.
The point is not what is written, but what is between the lines. Great part of the "magic" of science fiction is that you have to figure out how some things work in order to really understand (or create an understanding) of the piece you are analyzing.
This is not a straightforward literary style and this is what attracts me the most in it. :)
The Catalyst has received a task, but it does not think of it like its creators... and that is why its creators were its first victims.
I have to admit you were the closest one to ever convince me. In fact you partially did but I see it in a different way. To some extent I can see the catalyst making some sense because after all an AI doesn't think like a human. The catalyst thinks it's fulfilling it's purpose but because an AI doesn't have perspective thought like organics do, it's actually not doing what it was actually created to do. Kinda like a mad AI scenario only more unique.
-Commander Shepard, you mind tell me what are you doing in that Cerberus ship?
~Sir, finishing this fight.
Every time I see all those reapers I just get shivers...
I am not contradicting myself... I said it wants balance, not that it wants anyone to live.
Balance, in this case, means that both must fulfill their functions (as I said). The point is that the Catalyst believes that, from a certain moment, synthetics will be dysfunctional and organics will always build synthetics, so advanced civilizations must be harvested in order for other civilizations to function.
"Balance" does not mean everyone is happy, it only means everyone gets the same treatment.
People don't like it not because it's not a happy ending but because it doesn't make any fucking sense. The catalyst's illogical bullshit, the many plotholes and how choices didn't matter is what makes it so frustrating.
The reason they specifically chose Human colonies to absorb in ME2 and Earth to destroy in ME3 is because of Shepard, a human, being responsible for the death of Sovereign in the first game. They perceived Shepard and Humanity as the biggest possible threats, so take the strongest out first then move to the other races was probably there way of thinking.
This music is too epic, I'm forced to cry =')
EVERYONE LIVES!
I think the reapers are correct. Eventually, whatever choice you made, organics and synthetics will never truly get along.
The Best and Better than any trilogy ever created by far
I suspect the final ending of thegame will change not just on how you complete the final mission but on how many allies you spared/made in the previous games ... Rachni, Geth and Krogan alike ... if you ally with them all you suffer heavy losses but win the war with head held high ... if you didnt make any friends then its a total bloodbath with the Reapers vanquished but the galaxy in utter ruin
You're seriously asking "why"? Because he's practically saying: "I heard you don't want synthetics to kill organics, so I made synthetics to kill organics so organics don't make synthetics to kill organics". You never saw the "yo dawg" memes? Not to mention the many plot holes he brought and the way he contradicted Sovereign in ME1. Sovereign said: "we are each a nation, INDEPENDENT" and then the catalysts says: "I CONTROL the reapers". Is that enough or do I need to go on?
Yeah
i can't belive.. 9 years.
Ok, the reapers are coming. Something they dont normally do like that. My prodictions on ME3, all out war. I played the part of a nice guy, and have earned the trust of the Rachni, Geth, Krogan, and all other races. I suppose you have to convince them of the Reapers. I hope you get to do some space battles where your in control. There is also the Collector beam weapon, based off Reaper tech. In the description it said they can prohaps replicate it on a larger scale. There is a chance after all.
0:45 How it is possible to create a so epic ending ???
........it seems our time to return is imminent .
I think this is an experience than connects ME player all around :P
Racni queen, Quarian Fleet, Geth fleet, Krogan cure, it all makes sense now.
I love this song to death.. but holy crap we are so completely and utterly fucked.
So you do agree that the catalyst shouldn't offer us the Destroy ending. Because he KNOWS that it wouldn't work thus allowing it contradicts his programming. Anyway just when I thought it couldn't get worse, the Leviathan DLC shows up basically telling me "don't ever underestimate Bioware's ability to make it worse. The catalyst's creators are so stupid that it doesn't matter if the catalyst makes sense, because they DON'T. When you get a chance to watch it, you'll see what I'm talking about .
I figure the armies assisting humans in the final battle will depend on the decisions made in ME1/2. For example: Did you spare the Rachni queen? They help if you did. Did you tell Mordin to keep Maelon's data after his loyalty mission? He will cure the genophage and the krogan will have an army, led by Wrex if you spared hem. Just a theory, it's what I would do were I on Bioware's design team.
I felt so confident and ready for what else the reapers would throw at us in ME3 and then from 0:46-00:0:53 I just wanted to cryT-T
@doritela2008 the game's science is sound, provided you take element zero into account, as it allows the manipulation of dark energy and mass. the ships move faster than light because they can use element zero cores to "trick" the universe into thinking that they have little no mass, and without the limitation that mass puts on speed (and the energy requirements thereof) they can move almost infinitely fast with mass relays.
In what concerns to diversity, I agree, but there is a different way to see it:
The Catalyst did not believe in the peaceful existence in diversity and all endings except for "Synthesis" do solve this.
"Destroy": The element that did not believe in peace in diversity (the Catalyst) is rendered powerless.
"Control": The element that did not believe in peace in diversity is substituted.
"Synthesis": The only scenario where diversity loses, for it ceases to exist.
Diversity wins in 2/3.
Are the Reaper ships moving towards the galaxy, or are they just standing still with the camera panning away from them?
Anyway, what I personally want as a feature in ME3 is that whoever your romance is (either one of the ME2 characters, or your ME1 romance if you didn't have one in 2) ends up joining the party almost immediately, and that it would allow you to choose to develop that romance even further, or dump them for somebody else.
@creapsmantic dark space is where light has YET to reach, and is so ridiculously far away (as shown at the end the reapers can see the entirety of the galaxy from where they are) that they could travel constantly for millions and millions of years and STILL not reach the edge of the galaxy, which i why they need the citadel mass relay to travel into inhabited space
The Geth did not prove the Catalyst wrong for coexisting for some limited time with organics and they were already planning a large change in their existence (the Dyson Sphere), that would be so dramatic as to be impossible for the current Geth to foresee its results to Geth civilization (in the words of Legion: "we will find our reason [to exist] later").
well, i guess all we can do is cross our fingers and hope for the best!
no it would only look like a human in its early stages, then it transforms into looking closer to what Sovereign and harbinger look like. If you see the end of mass effect 2 when the reaper fleet shows up. you see that the reapers have a different shape to them. but still have that same squid looking shape.
@HammerDown328 When I played through this the first time, me and my friends had the Xbox hooked up to my dorm's lounge TV, and the reaction at that moment was a very loud "OH SHIT."
Too bad this isn't in the actual OST
DAMN I WANNA PLAY ME3 BUT IT S EXPENSIVE IN MY COUNTRY. DAMN YOU EA MAKE A DISCOUNTTTTTTTTTTT
It's not illogical. In the Catalysts mind, the function of a civilization is to evolve. He was letting some to accomplish their functions to a certain point, and then cutting them in order to let others function as well. Remember he thought "synthetics will wipe all organic life in the Galaxy"... no functionality for biologic life in that scenario.
Sovereign also said Reapers had no beginning and no end... it was a strategy to inspire "superstitious awe", a part of the indoctrination process.
The galaxy is well and truly fucked, damn but that is a LOT of reapers.
And remember, every one of them would obliterate the destiny ascension in a straight-up fight.
@doritela2008 also, regarding the use of solar power; the reapers are so far away from the light sources inside the galaxy that the power they would receive, even at 100% efficiency, would be almost nil, and since they no doubt require massive amounts of energy to function, it is a completely useless power source while in dark space
so apparently bioware started on mass effect 3 earlier this year before me2's release and they have all casting and scripting done already! they also said that if they continue to move at the pace they are now they will have the game out in the 3 quarter of 2011! thats pretty soon considering the gap between me 1 and 2 is like 2.5 years instead of 1.5
Bring it on, Harbinger. God, I can't wait to shut him up for good...
Well, "balance" has a very rational meaning to me. Organics and synthetics had both to function.
The Catalyst needed to allow civilizations to execute their functions but believed that, at a certain point, they would all develop synthetics, which would destroy them and all other organics in the Galaxy, so it was necessary to perform the cycle in order to let the other civilizations flourish.
The rebellion of the synthetics is, to the Catalyst, a fatality - and there is nothing implicit in it.
Gthang213 Is correct, all of the shown reapers are vastly different and yet very much the same, the only logical conclusion is that they begin looking like their 'host species' but end looking like the cuttlefish shape with characteristics of the host species.
If all those shown in the ending are from the same species explain the differences.
You're pretty much fucking screwed unless you got the Rachni + Reaper technology against those Reapers.
Unless Shepard has some sort of nuke cannons on the Normandy SR-3 or something, hes gonna have some trouble killing all those Reapers :L
Most inspirational music ever in a game!
well BrotherGodhand il tell you this we aint going down without a fight
You almost got it right, but there is no contradiction.
Here are the Catalyst beliefs, as I see them:
1) There is NO way that synthetics and organics can coexist (it tried for millions of years)
2) Civilizations must function, but are individually expendable (more important is the process of evolution)
3) Organics and synthetics are equally relevant (so there must be time for synthetics to be developed)
It balances those beliefs.
True. The Catalyst should'n offer us the "Destroy" ending. I think it is giving up his task when he does so, which is unacceptable for an AI.
I will try to see Leviathan... I heard it is not as bad as people say... it is worse! :D
watching those reapers emerge into the light was one of the most bone chilling moments in all of vg or cinema history... I don't see how the galaxy has a chance... there are so many. One reaper was able to handle whole fleets, my bet is the Quarian fleet is going to get butchered defending everyone else.
naah we dont need to worry. at the rate they seem to be travelling and also the fact tha they're well outside of the galaxy emans we'll have a good few thousand years to prepare ;)
no its a reaper in the early stages of development. eventually it will turn into what sovereign and harbinger look like, that is when a reaper is a full adult
I can't help but wonder what allies Harbinger is going to marshal, because the Reapers can't come through so that we can fight them because we wouldn't stand a chance.
1) The depth is not in the colors, but in the different meanings of each ending.
Destroy: A violent choice that leaves a door open for future devastation.
Control: A reasonable pick with lots of benefits from Reaper "domestication", but lots of danger in the horizon.
Synthesis: Both the Catalyst and Shepard accomplish their missions and the Galaxy is safe and peaceful. Shepard's sacrifice for the future is worth it.
2) Can a direct order from his Commanding Officer be considered "no reason"?
@Deremixproductions Harbinger: Shepard I am your father!
Shepard: Noooooo!
they did a interview in Inside Gaming: Ghost Recon Gets Official & Mass Effect 3: 2/17/10 saying ME3 could come out in 2011
@shinobikid2
Let's not forget the Geth on your side if you reprogramme the heretics and the Quarian migrant fleet if you tell them not to go to war with the Geth.
I doubt the Shadow Broker will help though, since y'know, I bet there'll be a mission with Liara where you have to kill him. (Which there was originally in ME2, but it was cut. Some of the audio files for her and shepard are still there on disc on the PC version)
dude when your fighting the human reaper its even called "Human-Reaper Larva"
Best way to stop the reapers is by recruiting Masterchief and Marcus fenix and other heroes. I bet Fenix would go inside a reaper and use his saw to destroy a lot of vital cables.
oh, and btw, I guarantee you that Haestrom's star has a direct connection to harbinger, my guess is that it has a connection to either killing him or where he is hiding
2nd comment: I thought of something else. What you said about the catalyst is still flawed because he also said he wants to restore order on the chaos of organics. Here's the problem: organics will always be chaotic, it's in their nature. So why is he letting future organics live? If he wants to restore order for good as he claims then don't allow any single organic species to prosper because no matter what, they WILL be chaotic. He has conflicting motivations and all of them make no sense!
love this music !
@creapsmantic I'm pretty sure Harbinger is the Reaper leader and he will be the last boss in ME3 Because he was controlling the Collector leader and he was controlling the Collectors so yeah it's gonna be a hard boss battle.
@CommanderCRH94 Shepard: That's not true! That's impossible! Don't you agree, Joker?
Joker: Yeah, I'd say it's pretty impossible. I mean, you're a sentient race. Shepard's a male human. Doesn't match.
Harbinger: ...Oh... Okay then.
Shepard: Alright, bro. *fist pounds Joker*
@creapsmantic again, there is no physical barrier to stop them, it would just take so insanely long without the mass relays because FTL drives can only go so fast (hence the need for mass relays) why do you think sovereign was so determined to take control of the citadel? it's the only way to reach the galaxy, unless the reapers have a nigh-infinite power source and dont mind missing out on annihilating a few dozen civilizations in the meantime
@LaverickPhoenix I'm not completely sure, but you may be right here, if so, thank you for correcting my error
Mass Effect 1: War Inevitable. Mass Effect 2: Suicide Avoidable. Mass Effect 3: Genocide Gaurunteed.
You and me both mate ME3 is gonna be sick!
0:47 *shepard points out of the window* : Rea... Rea... Reap... Reap... Reapers... REAPERS!
one word
Epic
tell they might need only one thing to destroy all of them:An army of Thresher Maw
@iKhicken she will...ya know, the funny thing about bugs is that they breed fast :D...maybe a huge bug fleet will eat up some reapers before the krogan and asari and qunari join the fray and slaughter themselves some nasty ancient machine aliens (reapers)
When I saw them...
I shat bricks.
@EllboGrease27 Yeah i mean sovereign, not the unfinished reaper. I think the alliance lost 6 or more ships in the battle of the citadel just to destroy one reaper and its kinetic barriers. Now there is an army of reapers and im curious how they want to handle them all. But we'll see^^
@TripleHoo They weren't. In fact there's a side mission in ME1 in which the Protheans were shown to be studying cave-men.