Lennon, McCartney and You Guys; An AP Music Theory Lesson

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
  • Produced by The New York State Student Music Association, Mr. Doyle's sample lesson plan invites you into his high school music theory (AP) classroom for a lesson on chordal root movements. Using the harmonic plan from Paul McCartney's, "Oh Darling" as a four-part Roman numeral exercise, the students explore voice leading, non-harmonic tones, sight-singing, and finally backing up the Beatles original recording with their harmonization. Music theory teachers are encouraged to produce their own original video lesson demonstrations and submit them to the editors of the new, Journal of Music Theory Pedagogy Online (www.jmtp.ou.edu). This exciting website is a valuable resource to all music theory educators.

Комментарии • 66

  • @Laz3rCat95
    @Laz3rCat95 2 года назад +4

    Glad to see this school is so dedicated to their music program, most K-12 schools don't even have a music theory class let alone an AP class where students compose their own works and put on recitals.

  • @SNSDFOREVERSONESEO
    @SNSDFOREVERSONESEO 8 лет назад +44

    He's such a good teacher, I'm jealous.

  • @robertmartin676
    @robertmartin676 6 лет назад +12

    This teacher is the real deal! I didn't think they had teachers like this anymore.

  • @neilwest5198
    @neilwest5198 8 лет назад +14

    This teacher is living the dream!

  • @MrAdamJoel
    @MrAdamJoel 5 лет назад +5

    Awesome video and class. My highschool AP Music Theory class only had 4 students! The teacher and 2 of my classmates had perfect pitch which made it a challenge to keep up with them.
    Eventually I become a professional musician and have performed for years as a “Beatle” in Las Vegas and internationally. I wouldn’t have been able to analyze that music without that training back in highschool (and college)!

  • @abitateach
    @abitateach 4 года назад +3

    Great approach! I hope that you're able to teach this way under present circumstances. These are challenging times for music teachers. Congratulations for promoting your students to a higher level!

  • @martinkelley8731
    @martinkelley8731 5 лет назад +4

    He's very passionate and his students are mad cool and responsive!

  • @JarodFedele
    @JarodFedele 9 лет назад +4

    What a great way to teach your students!

  • @gnesispr
    @gnesispr 4 года назад

    Excellent video! Used it for my music education class observations.

  • @dreamcoma2213
    @dreamcoma2213 6 лет назад +3

    I wish I was decent at reading music notation. I can play lots of songs, but I just use chord sheets for rhythm and if I need help with a lead part, I just look at tab. I usually don't even know what key the songs I play are in. I know a bunch of chords and usually just write songs with the dozens of chords I know. My point, is man, I wish I had taken some music theory classes, or even been in band in school. Shit, my parents couldn't even afford to give me private lessons, just had to teach myself everything I know from the internet and tips from friends. I learned to play drums by beating on drums until it didn't sound like shit. Struggle is real. I agree that probably a big part of what developed the Beatles songwriting style was being a cover band initially, and just cobbling together stuff that they learned and liked. But it definitely seems like they developed over the years, especially under the direction and assistance of George Martin, who brought a lot of music theory to the table.

  • @artfullboutique2768
    @artfullboutique2768 5 лет назад +1

    Great Teacher!!!!!

  • @MichaelLynMusic
    @MichaelLynMusic 6 лет назад +3

    From one Music Teach to another...Great Job Brother!...."Lolly Pops on the Chicken Wire"...can I use that one too?

  • @kewkabe
    @kewkabe 7 лет назад +1

    Awesome teacher.

  • @skoupidostef
    @skoupidostef 6 лет назад

    Great video! You should upload more of your lessons!

  • @MusikeXavier
    @MusikeXavier 6 лет назад +2

    Music theory is not a prescription for composition or harmonic progressions, but rather a description of how outstanding performers and composers utilize diverse musical devices to develop their craft. In that sense, we may have Blues Music Theory or Metal Music Theory, (I've even heard of Beatle Music Theory), etc. BB King or McCartney already know the music theory behind their genres. Their knowledge is born out of daily practice, performance, and creation of their music. It is only if they want to incorporate elements of different genres that the need to learn that specific music theory arises.
    Because of the descriptive nature of music theory, it is possible to learn genres that we´re not familiar with if we have that specific music theory available and, of course, the commitment to study it. Therefore, it is absurd to think of music theory as "designed in the dark ages" to impede learning. Quite the contrary, music theory, including, of course, standard notation, is a musical learning device and it is as relevant today, if not more, as it was in the past. Our personal shortcoming in understanding it does no warrant at all a blanket condemnation of it.

    • @dr.frankdoyle5315
      @dr.frankdoyle5315 4 года назад

      Dang, do I ever agree with this missive. Well stated and profoundly simple. Bravo!

  • @TimothyRyanFisher
    @TimothyRyanFisher 6 лет назад

    I played in a Bluegrass Beatles cover band for awhile and the leader and I would argue whether Paul knew theory. I used to say he did, his dad was a musician. Seeing his Roman numerals means I was right.

    • @whocares8735
      @whocares8735 6 лет назад +2

      Timothy Ryan Fisher idiot. You think that letter was actually from paul??? 😂

    • @TimothyRyanFisher
      @TimothyRyanFisher 6 лет назад

      Buddha Stalin No, Paul died in car accident a long time ago. I just watched the beginning of the video. Yes your right I’m am an idiot sometimes. I didn’t really think about it that hard. I’m just sick of lazy musicians say that learning theory and practice ruin your style, holding up ignorance as a virtue. One of my banjo students just won RockyGrass banjo competition, a big deal, he was hanging out with Béla Fleck all last week. We work on a lot of theory. You totally missed the point of my comment. Paul knew theory whether he wrote that letter or not, I don’t care about that. You need to open your mind. Let me guess you are one of those assholes that think studying music makes you worse. If not I apologize if so your the idiot.

    • @whocares8735
      @whocares8735 6 лет назад

      Timothy Ryan Fisher haha paul did die in a car accident touche 👍

    • @chipgaasche4933
      @chipgaasche4933 6 лет назад +2

      Paul knew just the very basics of Music Theory.

    • @TimothyRyanFisher
      @TimothyRyanFisher 6 лет назад

      Chip Gaasche The basics are all you need

  • @alexvlk
    @alexvlk 7 лет назад

    Awesome

  • @WESSERPARAQUAT
    @WESSERPARAQUAT 5 лет назад +2

    Great music CANNOT be composed by studying, that seldom happens Frank , and The Beatles will never be matched

    • @dr.frankdoyle5315
      @dr.frankdoyle5315 4 года назад

      Absolutely agree! Gotta come from "within." The theory piece can only open up other possible considerations to enhance the compositional process. Dylan did not need music theory for his harmonic foundation. The master composers did. All this, and as in many of my lessons, there is an attempt to draw a more immediate connection to the popular music lexicon through four-part harmony. And yes....the Beatles WILL never be matched! Thank you for your response. Frank

  • @reneclips
    @reneclips 7 лет назад +3

    Nice...
    What does "AP" mean?

    • @Stopskii3
      @Stopskii3 7 лет назад +5

      reneclips advanced placement, or accelerated pace. Likely the first one.

    • @pdavis122
      @pdavis122 6 лет назад +4

      Add pepperoni

    • @bernardodittz3582
      @bernardodittz3582 5 лет назад +1

      Angolan People

  • @yoelv.o.krisstiawan5838
    @yoelv.o.krisstiawan5838 6 лет назад +1

    What's the song? I really want to know

  • @metacosmos
    @metacosmos 6 лет назад +7

    very basic, I don't understand how they dare to charge 5.000 $ for such courses.

    • @ashkara8652
      @ashkara8652 5 лет назад +3

      Dude this is a highschool class

    • @rainystone607
      @rainystone607 5 лет назад +1

      Is the Beatles

    • @saulypoly
      @saulypoly 4 года назад +3

      They don't charge for these classes this is a highschool AP music theory class. The only thing they pay for is the exam in may

    • @dr.frankdoyle5315
      @dr.frankdoyle5315 4 года назад

      @@saulypoly Yes Sauly...and it's only $75(!)

    • @saulypoly
      @saulypoly 4 года назад

      frank doyle $95 actually 😭

  • @rascal
    @rascal 6 лет назад

    And the song was..... ?

  • @kailaspillai5329
    @kailaspillai5329 9 лет назад +3

    "Guys will be sopranos, girls will be basses"
    not sure how that would work, wouldn't make much sense unless the parts were scaled an octave or two up and an octave or two down...

    • @dr.frankdoyle5315
      @dr.frankdoyle5315 4 года назад

      Yes Kailas; the video edited out the follow-up segment that explain the activity. Sorry. that it is out of my hands. And when I first viewed this piece that bothered me also. Good catch! Frank

    • @seaturtlez6760
      @seaturtlez6760 3 года назад

      @@dr.frankdoyle5315 can I be your padawan

  • @donallfinn
    @donallfinn 6 лет назад +6

    Good work! I have a degree in composition from Berklee and it's only once you've learned theory and composition that you look at it and say: "Good God...this is flat Earth Medieval Bullshit, this whole system needs to be TORN DOWN AND REBUILT" Honestly, as a guy who knows it, I'm saying the whole system of music theory was designed in the dark ages by people WHO DIDN'T WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LEARN IT, its like a code, it wasn't designed to be accessible. it was designed to confuse people. This teacher is making the best out of teaching a bad system, but really, its time to tear the whole thing down. No contemporary musicians use theory and traditional notation except in the most basic of ways (Keys, minor-major, pentatonic, modal feel, harmonization eg. "Sing the fifth, I'll take the root" "Were in the key of Cmin" "This is going to have a Mixolydian feel, so its a bit more exotic" "Were in 4/4 but at that one point we'll do a bar of 3/4") that's about it, beyond that EVERYTHING can and SHOULD be torn down and rebuilt so it actually serves a purpose in the music of today, when the only type of music that fully uses the system is one that maintains the instrumentation and rules of medieval times (And whoes greats all lived hundreds of years ago) that should be a pretty strong sign that something is wrong.

    • @saxfreak01
      @saxfreak01 6 лет назад +3

      I presume your last comments refer to orchestral/classical music?
      The medieval era ended in the 1490s, orchestras began appearing in the 1600s. "The Greats" of classical music are not, by a long stretch, confined to individuals who lived "hundreds of years ago". Debussy, Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Mahler, Sibelius, Ravel, for example, all died within the last 50 to 100 years, and even the likes of Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner, Brahms, Bruckner, Tchaikovsky all died within the last 200 years. I would expect a Berklee music graduate to be better informed, frankly.

    • @johnrothfield6126
      @johnrothfield6126 6 лет назад

      the rules are extremely useful for the music of that time!!! Fux's book for palestrina to mozart.

    • @metacosmos
      @metacosmos 6 лет назад +2

      most of those courses at Berklee or other school of jazz or electric guitar are very basic as compared with the courses on composition at the Conservatories or Faculties of Classical music, and are very expensive without justification, just to pay high wages to its teachers..

    • @sluggo68
      @sluggo68 6 лет назад

      Terrible.dee , the way music is written can and has been changed over time. Although music theory will always remain the same. These are two entirely different entities. The way music is written is how one expresses & explains the use of theory to others. Tablature (a simplified form of classic musical notation based on numbers instead of symbols) has been around since at least the early renascence, prob earlier. Tablature is a much easier way to learn and express music visually on paper.

    • @chipgaasche4933
      @chipgaasche4933 6 лет назад +1

      Tablature is much easier..but much less accurate, James.

  • @computerager
    @computerager 3 года назад

    2m15s: '...boys will be sopranos, girls will be basses...' I doubt it! ;-)

  • @margaretcronin4073
    @margaretcronin4073 5 лет назад +2

    I doubt that letter was from Paul McCartney.

    • @meanderer06513
      @meanderer06513 4 года назад +1

      It wasn't.

    • @guyincognito5706
      @guyincognito5706 4 года назад +4

      Margaret Cronin you have quite a firm grasp of the obvious.

    • @dr.frankdoyle5315
      @dr.frankdoyle5315 4 года назад +1

      My students knew it was a joke.

    • @dr.frankdoyle5315
      @dr.frankdoyle5315 4 года назад +2

      Yes Margaret; it was a "setup" for the goal of the day. These students knew it was a joke if you watch their reaction. I am sorry if I misrepresented the authenticity part of this lesson.

  • @cursedswordsman
    @cursedswordsman 11 лет назад

    cool

  • @guitC
    @guitC 5 лет назад

    so boring! haha

  • @SunTeleLeo
    @SunTeleLeo 5 лет назад

    theory is bullshit
    grab your guitar or piano and just do it
    none of them will ever reach the beatles cos they are "caged"