Sample Library Review Orange Tree Samples is having a major sale at the moment, and I was wondering which acoustic guitar was the best general purpose instrument in the context of a full bass/jass guitar/piano/drums sound in which the piano is the most important part. Would you have any thoughts on this? (Would this be Elton John-esque?) I imagine that I'd need melodic playing as well as strumming, but nothing that overpowers or cuts through everything else in a way that it would make it too challenging to mesh everything together. I'm a little concerned that the original steel strings just isn't really up to par with the others. Songwriter sounds okay, but the strumming sounds fake for all the guitars because it's the same pattern over and over. I wonder how hand-programmed several bar strumming sounds. Thanks for your time.
Steel: Martin D16R Jumbo 12: Taylor 355 Songwriter: Gibson J-45 Flatpick: custom made with hybrid bracing (taken from the official product descriptions)
Personally, I think the Evolution Steel sounds the most like a real guitar, especially in this mix. The Flatpick sounded more like a 12 string to me, almost buzzy on the upper strings. Songwriter did "fit" well in the mix, altho I think it may be getting lost in the mix, and will not stand out as a guitar part.
Wish I’d seen that before I bought the flat pick 6… Instant regret! 😂 think the songwriter is ages ahead. But the finger palm mute of the steel strings is unique.
I would recommend Ample Guitar Martin which I have or Ample Guitar Taylor because you can program the strums exactly. You can program it from scratch. I did have an Orange Tree Samples metal guitar Library but I found their method clunky. Don’t get me wrong it sounded great but I never got on with it. There are a few good sample acoustic guitar libraries for Kontakt. However you can never program from scratch so they are out for me. I think you can program RealGuitar from scratch or at least completely edit preset patterns. To be honest I am not really happy with the options out there. Still waiting for that ultimate programmable acoustic guitar library/VST
Stevethesearcher you do know that you can program the strums from scratch in either one...down to the detail too. Furthermore, your daw is already a sequencer so you don’t technically need strum modes & sequencers like riffer or the like as long as the strum and articulation samples exist...and they are in either library. It’s always up to the programmer. The evolution strum engine can be played live and riffer can only be programmed. So evolution gets the nod there. What you program with riffer you can program with the evolution engine to respond to live chords & notes of your choice or in place using the daws regular workspace...hence even more customizable then riffer. Riffer & the Evolution engine cuts to the chase with drop down listing your options at each step...it’s cool! I like that about riffer but I also acknowledge that it doesn’t make riffer superior.✌🏾
I wonder if Violinisters listen to string libraries and come to the conclusion I do as a guitarist hearing these....doesn't sound very realistic....at all.
With practice, it can be good. That’s like says the guitar is terrible in the hands of a beginner. It’s not the tool, it’s the Tool (human). 😄 🍊 🌳 strum engine is great! There’s always room for improvement as with anything.✌🏾
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There's 2 libraries based on the Gibby J-45 (Relic and Songwriter). Is there any significant difference?
Evolution Steel Strings sounded the most natural and balanced in the mix, frequency and transient-wise.
4 fantastic guitars - I also would have choosen the Gibson - as you said the character of the sound is unique
Good to hear we have similar tastes! Thanks for sharing your pick :)
Sample Library Review Orange Tree Samples is having a major sale at the moment, and I was wondering which acoustic guitar was the best general purpose instrument in the context of a full bass/jass guitar/piano/drums sound in which the piano is the most important part. Would you have any thoughts on this? (Would this be Elton John-esque?) I imagine that I'd need melodic playing as well as strumming, but nothing that overpowers or cuts through everything else in a way that it would make it too challenging to mesh everything together. I'm a little concerned that the original steel strings just isn't really up to par with the others. Songwriter sounds okay, but the strumming sounds fake for all the guitars because it's the same pattern over and over. I wonder how hand-programmed several bar strumming sounds.
Thanks for your time.
Would be interesting to hear this with the Evolution Modern Nylon and Evolution Texas Twang, just as a round out.
hey whats the diff between economy pick style and the alternate picking style?
What guitars are they using for the samples?
Steel: Martin D16R
Jumbo 12: Taylor 355
Songwriter: Gibson J-45
Flatpick: custom made with hybrid bracing
(taken from the official product descriptions)
I own Songwriter. Songwriter is the best sounding among the four. With the song mix or alone.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts ProzKhmer! I like that one as well
Personally, I think the Evolution Steel sounds the most like a real guitar, especially in this mix. The Flatpick sounded more like a 12 string to me, almost buzzy on the upper strings. Songwriter did "fit" well in the mix, altho I think it may be getting lost in the mix, and will not stand out as a guitar part.
song is fireeee
Wish I’d seen that before I bought the flat pick 6… Instant regret! 😂 think the songwriter is ages ahead. But the finger palm mute of the steel strings is unique.
pls, play with fisher triplay
They are all very realistic sounding - but my pick would be the Songwriter. The Gibson also sounds great . Tiger.
Awesome plugins! Off topic, but you kinda sound like Brandon Lee from The Crow lol. Also a little like Jason Newsted
I would recommend Ample Guitar Martin which I have or Ample Guitar Taylor because you can program the strums exactly. You can program it from scratch. I did have an Orange Tree Samples metal guitar Library but I found their method clunky. Don’t get me wrong it sounded great but I never got on with it. There are a few good sample acoustic guitar libraries for Kontakt. However you can never program from scratch so they are out for me. I think you can program RealGuitar from scratch or at least completely edit preset patterns. To be honest I am not really happy with the options out there. Still waiting for that ultimate programmable acoustic guitar library/VST
Stevethesearcher you do know that you can program the strums from scratch in either one...down to the detail too. Furthermore, your daw is already a sequencer so you don’t technically need strum modes & sequencers like riffer or the like as long as the strum and articulation samples exist...and they are in either library. It’s always up to the programmer. The evolution strum engine can be played live and riffer can only be programmed. So evolution gets the nod there. What you program with riffer you can program with the evolution engine to respond to live chords & notes of your choice or in place using the daws regular workspace...hence even more customizable then riffer. Riffer & the Evolution engine cuts to the chase with drop down listing your options at each step...it’s cool! I like that about riffer but I also acknowledge that it doesn’t make riffer superior.✌🏾
Do you have to use a computer or do they have a version for synths and samplers? Computers and VSTs suck.
these instruments all run in Kontakt for Mac or Windows. I don't know of any synth support for Kontakt. Sorry CVbEast.
There is support for Maschine controllers to trigger samples and chords like a DJ or producers that use surface controllers.
I wonder if Violinisters listen to string libraries and come to the conclusion I do as a guitarist hearing these....doesn't sound very realistic....at all.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Harrysound!
It's possible that they do! These don't sound realistic whatsoever.
ItsMe! My apologies
this software free for fl stuio??
hi HMS, no these are Kontakt Player instruments and are sold by Orange Tree Samples
Orange Tree Guitars Sound Good! but Strum mode is not good (poor presets, terrible edit, unknown latency)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Oumuamua O!
It needs some practicing
With practice, it can be good. That’s like says the guitar is terrible in the hands of a beginner. It’s not the tool, it’s the Tool (human). 😄 🍊 🌳 strum engine is great! There’s always room for improvement as with anything.✌🏾
You talk too much