Many thanks for an interesting and honest review of comparing the inside of the two multimeters Hioki DT 4282 and Fluke 189. It seems that Hioki has a fantastic quality in build and components - lightyears ahed Fluke . Greetings from Stockholm ( Sweden ) and Jan Eklöf
I've had the Hioki a while. Love the fast autoranging and reading.. Hate the auto-powerdown as it doesn't reset on a change of the range dial or buttons. Compounded by the shutters on the current sockets, which means you need to unplug a lead to turn it back on.
Thanks Mike - great point. The Hioki is a great meter, and I do like that it has a long time before going powering off. It is interesting that it first goes into a sleep mode, and then finally powers off. I like to turn it on and disable the auto power off mode so I don't have to worrry about it;)
Nice meter! Nice construction and shielding with the special plastic! If you compare the German, Japan and other places of manufacturing, they are very detail oriented! That is one of the reasons why I purchased the DE-500, including tha extras and the case. This fancy meter is almost $450, but for someone who want 60000 count precise meter, like 0.025% it seems like a nice meter. Hope you make the video #2 soon. Thanks again!
60K is really nice. Probably intended for precision R&D work. The mid level like looks really good for field service technician work where 6k counts is usually accurate enough. I'm impressed with how Hioki made their meters to be safe. I still like the Kaiweets clamp meters you showed a couple of weeks ago.
Thanks Tron for this feedback - and I completely agree with you! This is an expensive meter and I can't believe that they gave it to me;) It is awesome, but I am done spending lots of money on meters. A lot of good options out there today.
There is luckily several brands that are equal or even better than Fluke, dependent on what you may need. You can find meters that are way cheaper and equally in quality but you can also find meter that make Flukes meters sound cheap compared to other expensive brands. I suspect Fluke to be so hyped because USA is amazing to promote their former "made in the USA" products. It's a bit like Yellowstone, everybody knows of the Vulcan there and how amazing and big it is, nearly nobody knows of the 5 others and nobody knows about the volcanoes that makes Yellowstone look like a small wet matchstick beside an atomic bomb. USA is simply just better at telling about their great products and nature:-)
Thanks - and you are right about marketing;) Hioki doesn't say much about their multimeters, but they should. this DT4282 is the new superman of multimeters;)
I saw this meter when it came some years ago. What impressed me the most was the response speed and its construction. I didn't buy one on the spot at once because I was visiting multiple factories in Asia and didnt want to deal with customs at every country. I regreted not gettiing the Hioki. My fluke 189 plastic parts started to fail and I bought a 289 to replace it which I dont use that much I have a love hate relationship with that thing. My only complaint is that the Hioki does not have a bar graph.
Thanks for your feedback! I agree the Hioki DT4282 build quality and response time is top notch - and the 60k count hi res display which is also a dual display. The stand will not break off like the 189 does so easily (although that is my favorite Fluke). The fast hi count display replaces the bar graph in my opinion. It is a far better meter (IMHO) than any Fluke - also at a much lower price than the 289. I also have the 289 and I simply do not like it as I don't have the love/hate relationship that you do;)
A tip / trick to you, that may speed up your editing and lessen the work you have with effects. At 8:20 and several other times do you have a special effect to hide cuts but they may work in the opposite way, it's very noticeable. :-) When you are recording than fast get some images of what you are talking about, just get a bunch, it can be done very fast and easy. When you then need to make a cut, do you simply make a hard cut without any effects at all and put an image on top of that, so people get a more detailed view for a few seconds while your cut is hidden behind it. :-) There is plastics with great shielding capabilities, it's both shielding for EMI, EMF and HF. The chip at 27:40 is a "IC MCU 16BIT 64KB (64K x 8) FLASH 128LQF 20MHz "
I own 2 Hioki DT4282 the older one has firmware V1.10 and the newer one has firmware V1.14 The only noticeable difference is in the Auto power off. But it's nice to know they do have a continuous improvement policy. The construction and build quality of these meters, hard to see/find any cost cutting.
@@KissAnalog I bought the second because I was impressed with the first, 1 milliohm and 1 Pico farad resolution are not that common on handheld multi meters.
Great review. I cringed when you used a philip bit to remove what I would assume were actually JIS + screws out of a Japanese Hioki. :-) Edit- After looking closer at some of the close up shots of Hioki screws all of them are definitely JIS not philips. The dot on the head of all the screws indicate JIS. Sorry my OCD kicked in
Kioki or Hioki? I still have my analog Hioki with its huge pointer and big scale from when i was a tech trainee back in 1979. Still use it for making adjustments where i need to adjust to a pre-determined point & just cannot "get the feel" using a digital readout meter.... Interesting video seeing this DT4282 though.
Excelente video, tengo este hioki y también el 289, y si es más rápido y preciso el DT4282. y por mitad de precio. pruebenlo para que vean la diferencia, y de calidad muy buena. no estoy en contra o a favor de una marca. Excellent video, I have this hioki and also the 289, and if it is faster and more accurate the DT4282. and for half the price. try it to see the difference, and of very good quality. I am not against or in favor of a brand.
Eddie, have you considered making a video survey of all the multimeters that are comparable to (or dare I say better than) the Fluke 189, the perennial favourite?
High end meter ! 60000counts accuracy 0.5% to much! Generally common job 12v dc to 96v dc for telicom and home appliances, 60v shown +-0.6v, Basically acceptable 0.01% battery charging industrial management, another all features great,built quality, safety features great 👍 Thanks dear for new episode
basic DC Accuracy @ 6V to 60V is 0.025% +- 2digits 600V to 1000V is 0.03% +-2digits it's on par with a fluke 289 I have those as well. Quote from their data sheet. "Designed for use in laboratories and R&D applications"
I've broke most if not all of my fluke 189's screw posts like yours, I got the thing zip tied to hold it from opening up (inherent dissasembly?). So far (I think) fluke 189 is my best low voltage mVAC responding meter I have, somewhat better than my 289. That Hioki looks better though, on the box (IIRC) they claim 3.000mVAC as lowest range, not many DMM can do that low VAC signal, usually one will go for dedicated mVAC/dB voltmeter. I'd suggest a glove to handle that Hioki 4282's mainboard. So far 90's era Fluke dmm seemed to have worse plastic quality than older or more modern era version (made in china?) Hioki DT4282 is lacking bargraph though, for data logging I'd still go with fluke 287/289, they're so far the best I've found with "event logging capability". Fluke 187/189 data loggibg does support event logging, but only accesible from FVF with your pc. Dunno whether DT4282 does have event logging feature (or something similar).
Sorry...I recorded in 4k... I usually upload in 1k at least, so I don;'t know what happened. But, I am uploading the high res now - it is just taking some time. someone made a long video;j)
@@KissAnalog Ahh I see it's ok :) The funny thing that the mess up happened to the video with something that I'm really interested in haha xD Such coincidence ! Ya I've seen a couple good vids on these old meters but they're just pretty rare & I'm glad that now u have ur own version to add to that rare bunch :D
Una mala comparacion, compare el Hioki con un multimetro de su epoca seria lo justo. Tambien se ve la intencionalidad de una persona anti-fluke, esto se ve en todos sus videos claramente, quizas tenga un problema psicologico con esta marca. Her visto su curriculum, pero no apunta en el la calificacion de su empleo ¿Quizas barrendero?. Creo que ha de mirar quien y que marca de multimetros ha aportado mas al mundo de la electronica y se dara usted cuenta que ha sido Fluke.
You can keep buying Fluke if you like. I am trying to show value and what you get for your money. Fluke when they were Fluke before Danaher corporation bought them was much better and did do a lot to drive the market for better meters. But, Amprobe was around then too, and maybe didn't market themselves as well, but did a lot for the electrician! Now Danaher corp owns Amprobe as well. So you go ahead and buy Fluke which in my mind is now over priced and also you will get some of the worst test leads in the market. But this is IMHO - a street cleaner who has been an electrical engineer for 40 years and has earned the 'Engineering Excellence Award, from Boeing on solving a huge problem with the power supplies that are on the International Space Station. Tell me what is wrong with my reviews instead of sticking up for Fluke and questioning my background.
@@KissAnalog Hola: Aun a pesar de que no le guste la política de Fluke/Danaher o quien usted quiera, Fluke fabrica y paga unas certificaciones internacionales que otras marcas no lo hacen para ahorrar y así vender por debajo de un precio y ser competitivo, eso no hace que sus instrumentos sean mejores/peores que los Fluke, simplemente son distintos. Para combatir los cambios de política de una empresa como Fluke/danaher no se hace intentando confundir a los seguidores diciéndoles que los Fluke son peores que otras marcas, simplemente son exactamente iguales que antes de ser comprada por danaher, hay que ser realista, mis Fluke 8505 siguen siendo igual de buenos antes del 1998 que ahora. Yo he trabajado 42 años con la “NASA” en el mar Cantábrico, muchos lo entenderán, y no presumo de ello, ni intento inculcar mis inquietudes e ideas erróneas a la comunidad, si a usted n o le gusta la política de Fluke deje de ponerlos en sus videos pues es usted el que más los pone y exhibe o los compra para ello haciéndoles más propaganda aún.
Sorry about that! I don't know what happened. I usually upload in HD but something went wrong here. I am uploading a new HD file now... just taking awhile because some numbskull made a long video;)
@@KissAnalog Hello Sir, its not big deal or problem, atleast for me. Main point of your videos is not video quality, but about high quality informations stuff . And for sure at least at this video was really not 4K video quality so crucial. Thank you for your long and detailed videos, test and reviews i learned lot of from them :)
HIOKY engineering is like.....15 classes above Fluke even though Fluke is no slouch here (that's for sure) but.... man Even though both meters are more that 10 years old (designs) by now in "2024" still....Hioky beats the "s...t" out of poor....Fluke. I own a HIOKI DT4282 along with a FLUKE 287 ! But you know what ? HIOKI seems that much better and I keep reaching to HIOKI more often than not. Simply way, way more convenient. Even the proper gold plated probe tips SCREEMS !!!!! quality but ....unfortunately cannot say the same for Fluke ! Sorry Fluke but..... PS: the nano Siemens (conductance range) , speed, counts, uses way less batteries, weights less and features are way superior too!!! One advantage of Fluke against my HIOKI is that it has a somewhat nicer screen layout and characters + a "Barr-graph" (that is missing from the HIOKI).
Thanks for the great feedback. One thing to say is that it isn't a fair competition though - the yellow meter is more like 20 years old design:) If you look at the date of the manuals it will give that away. The Hioki is made in Japan - which they take very seriously....
Creo ke la mejor comparación es en campo en PRESICION impedancia resolución sensibilidad velocidad p medir resistencias capacitores diodos etcccy las funciones ke trae uno y otro yo he probado 87v d FLUKE y he probado d Hioki 4282 me kedo kon Hioki
I like the mechanical lock-out feature that keeps you from sacrificing fuses to the gods of absent-mindedness and distraction! I wonder how that mechanism will hold up over time. Can't wait for the test video! "Let me know if you like this format", that would be an emphatic YES!! If you're looking to throw a sizeable chunk of change down for some new gear it's always nice being able to make a well-informed choice. I enjoy and appreciate your thorough teardowns and reviews!
Thank you so much for your feedback! I too thought that if I'm going to show an expensive piece of equipment, I want to show enough that a person can see without my words;)
Knowing that the Japanese are MASTERS at reverse-engineering, and the Fluke is much older; it's hard to fall in love with a runner-up. I'm about to buy a Hioki meter, but when it's time for me to go to work (HVACR), I'M GOING TO CARRY ONE OF MY FLUKES. sorry
I have been using a Fluke 123 oscilloscope for 12 years, mostly as a multimeter. I never really been happy with that oscilloscope, with its small, dull screen, poor quality probs, clunky functionality, slow and mildly inaccurate resistance measurements. And I just hate its stupid primitive nickel-metal battery that lasts only 1 hour and needs replacing every 4 years. I think Fluke quit trying a long time ago, except for what they charge for their products. They are number one there. Hioki just kills Fluke in design quality by a large margin; wish they made oscilloscopes too.
@@KissAnaloghola se agradece el vídeo. Estoy por iniciar en unos meses un curso de 6 meses para instalación es eléctricas residenciales e industriales y quiero comprar el multimetro, me puede recomendar alguno de ellos , ya que estoy pensando en conseguir un equipo muy bueno para estas tareas y para la electrónica y se inicio pensaba en un fluke 189 pero he leído que han bajado la calidad
@@willielouw5154 OK I understand - but I had a request to compare it to the 189. I actually did a repair on this 189 where I replaced the terminal block: ruclips.net/video/PwYGuFa736c/видео.html
Interesting to see some other doing a teardown of the meter, I did it some years ago: lygte-info.dk/review/DMMHioki%20DT4282%20UK.html And did also remove the display. When analyzing the meter I did not find a multimeter chip (The 189 has a Fluke chip to handle ranges), i.e. the meter is implemented with basically standard chips. It is a good meter with a few unique features, but not the most advanced handheld meter I have, there you have to look at a France company, but that meter has a battery issue, it is the only meter I know that can use an external battery pack (That can be cheap). You can also find some really fancy handheld meters from a German company (Fluke meters are cheap compare to them ;) ). These high end meters are very precise and have som interesting possibilities, but only in a few cases are they more useful than a more simple meter and if used on a bench they have to compete against bench meters (Bench meters usually wins there, they cost about the same as a high-end handheld but is more precise, faster and has much better statistic).
Thanks Henrik for this awesome feedback and for the link! I appreciate you and your background;) If it is OK with you, I'll provide your link in my follow up review?
@@KissAnalog You are welcome to link to my stuff. You can link to either the specific review or my master list of DMM reviews: lygte-info.dk/info/DMMReviews.html I do also work on a program that can log from devices, including a lot of DMM's: lygte-info.dk/project/TestControllerCommands%20UK.html Fluke 189/289 is supported, Hioki will soon be supported. The total list is around 400 devices at the current time, it can be found on EEVBlog: www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/program-that-can-log-from-many-multimeters/
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Please see this link for the HiRes version of this video: ruclips.net/video/YvivwYCxrBo/видео.html
I uploaded a hiRes version of this video. I don't know why this was a lower res...
Many thanks for an interesting and honest review of comparing the inside of the two multimeters Hioki DT 4282 and Fluke 189. It seems that Hioki has a fantastic quality in build and components - lightyears ahed Fluke . Greetings from Stockholm ( Sweden ) and Jan Eklöf
Thanks so much! I agree - the Hioki is an amazing meter. The Fluke is a design about 20 years old - so we have to be nice to the old fella;)
That is a SERIOUSLY well engineered DMM. Thanks for the review!
It really is;) Thanks for the feedback!
I've had the Hioki a while. Love the fast autoranging and reading..
Hate the auto-powerdown as it doesn't reset on a change of the range dial or buttons. Compounded by the shutters on the current sockets, which means you need to unplug a lead to turn it back on.
Thanks Mike - great point. The Hioki is a great meter, and I do like that it has a long time before going powering off. It is interesting that it first goes into a sleep mode, and then finally powers off. I like to turn it on and disable the auto power off mode so I don't have to worrry about it;)
Awesome and informative videos, Eddie. Just purchased the DT4282. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you! If you tell them you came from this channel they are supposed to give a discount;)
Nice meter! Nice construction and shielding with the special plastic! If you compare the German, Japan and other places of manufacturing, they are very detail oriented! That is one of the reasons why I purchased the DE-500, including tha extras and the case. This fancy meter is almost $450, but for someone who want 60000 count precise meter, like 0.025% it seems like a nice meter. Hope you make the video #2 soon. Thanks again!
Thanks Tony! I agree, the shielding does seem to be next level. I'll get the second video out soon!
60K is really nice. Probably intended for precision R&D work. The mid level like looks really good for field service technician work where 6k counts is usually accurate enough. I'm impressed with how Hioki made their meters to be safe. I still like the Kaiweets clamp meters you showed a couple of weeks ago.
Thanks Tron for this feedback - and I completely agree with you! This is an expensive meter and I can't believe that they gave it to me;) It is awesome, but I am done spending lots of money on meters. A lot of good options out there today.
Thank you for the review.. I thought there is no other brand that can compete with Fluke
There is luckily several brands that are equal or even better than Fluke, dependent on what you may need.
You can find meters that are way cheaper and equally in quality but you can also find meter that make Flukes meters sound cheap compared to other expensive brands. I suspect Fluke to be so hyped because USA is amazing to promote their former "made in the USA" products. It's a bit like Yellowstone, everybody knows of the Vulcan there and how amazing and big it is, nearly nobody knows of the 5 others and nobody knows about the volcanoes that makes Yellowstone look like a small wet matchstick beside an atomic bomb. USA is simply just better at telling about their great products and nature:-)
Thanks - and you are right about marketing;) Hioki doesn't say much about their multimeters, but they should. this DT4282 is the new superman of multimeters;)
Thank you! Check out the FLIR review that I did. But I do really like this Hioki DT4282. It is my new favorite meter;)
Wow,, this is what Im waiting for. Thanks for the video
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback!
Many thanks for an interesting and honest review, very helpful!
I appreciate you!
I saw this meter when it came some years ago. What impressed me the most was the response speed and its construction. I didn't buy one on the spot at once because I was visiting multiple factories in Asia and didnt want to deal with customs at every country. I regreted not gettiing the Hioki. My fluke 189 plastic parts started to fail and I bought a 289 to replace it which I dont use that much I have a love hate relationship with that thing.
My only complaint is that the Hioki does not have a bar graph.
Thanks for your feedback! I agree the Hioki DT4282 build quality and response time is top notch - and the 60k count hi res display which is also a dual display. The stand will not break off like the 189 does so easily (although that is my favorite Fluke).
The fast hi count display replaces the bar graph in my opinion. It is a far better meter (IMHO) than any Fluke - also at a much lower price than the 289. I also have the 289 and I simply do not like it as I don't have the love/hate relationship that you do;)
Fluke 189 is a thing of beauty 😍😍
Nice meter, but my new favorite is this Hioki DT4282;)
@@KissAnalog Good for you ! I'm a sucker for looks haha XD
@@KissAnalog the build quality is really topnotch its like the 289 without the graphing feature
A tip / trick to you, that may speed up your editing and lessen the work you have with effects.
At 8:20 and several other times do you have a special effect to hide cuts but they may work in the opposite way, it's very noticeable. :-)
When you are recording than fast get some images of what you are talking about, just get a bunch, it can be done very fast and easy.
When you then need to make a cut, do you simply make a hard cut without any effects at all and put an image on top of that, so people get a more detailed view for a few seconds while your cut is hidden behind it. :-)
There is plastics with great shielding capabilities, it's both shielding for EMI, EMF and HF.
The chip at 27:40 is a "IC MCU 16BIT 64KB (64K x 8) FLASH 128LQF 20MHz "
Thanks Fried Mule! I'm going to work on this;)
Thanks for that info! This shielding in the plastic is really awesome;)
I own 2 Hioki DT4282 the older one has firmware V1.10 and the newer one has firmware V1.14 The only noticeable difference is in the Auto power off.
But it's nice to know they do have a continuous improvement policy. The construction and build quality of these meters, hard to see/find any cost cutting.
Thank you Mark! Did you acquire both meters at the same time? Or, did you buy the second after being impressed with the first?
@@KissAnalog I bought the second because I was impressed with the first, 1 milliohm and 1 Pico farad resolution are not that common on handheld multi meters.
Great point Mark! Thanks - good to hear feedback on this meter. I do like this meter;)
Did you ever do the additional follow-up video on this meter you talked about doing?
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
You are so welcome!! Thanks so much for your feedback! I appreciate you.
Great review.
I cringed when you used a philip bit to remove what I would assume were actually JIS + screws out of a Japanese Hioki. :-)
Edit- After looking closer at some of the close up shots of Hioki screws all of them are definitely JIS not philips. The dot on the head of all the screws indicate JIS. Sorry my OCD kicked in
LOL thanks for the feedback Justin T;) I have lots of bits, and I think I was using my new favorite multitool: amzn.to/3KsXWLP
HI Eddie, thanks For an awesome video.
You are very welcome
Having hioki is a dream
Thanks - great meters;)
Kioki or Hioki? I still have my analog Hioki with its huge pointer and big scale from when i was a tech trainee back in 1979. Still use it for making adjustments where i need to adjust to a pre-determined point & just cannot "get the feel" using a digital readout meter.... Interesting video seeing this DT4282 though.
Thank you;) I corrected that. I really do like these meters!
Excelente video, tengo este hioki y también el 289, y si es más rápido y preciso el DT4282. y por mitad de precio. pruebenlo para que vean la diferencia, y de calidad muy buena. no estoy en contra o a favor de una marca.
Excellent video, I have this hioki and also the 289, and if it is faster and more accurate the DT4282. and for half the price. try it to see the difference, and of very good quality. I am not against or in favor of a brand.
Thanks for the great feedback! And bilingual too !!
You should check out the new OWON CM210E.
It looks like the UT210E but less expensive.
Did you see this video on the CM2100B? Best Clamp on Meter for Benchwork Owon CM2100B
ruclips.net/video/A60RknBU2g4/видео.html
@@KissAnalog oh my, I missed it... or forgot?
Eddie, have you considered making a video survey of all the multimeters that are comparable to (or dare I say better than) the Fluke 189, the perennial favourite?
Thank you - this is a great idea!
@@KissAnalog Don't forget to include the Simpson 26.... Eh, hang on; yeah, ner'mind.
High end meter ! 60000counts accuracy 0.5% to much! Generally common job 12v dc to 96v dc for telicom and home appliances, 60v shown +-0.6v,
Basically acceptable 0.01% battery charging industrial management, another all features great,built quality, safety features great 👍
Thanks dear for new episode
Thank you! I agree that 60k counts is more for development or design work. But even 6k count is good for that.
basic DC Accuracy @ 6V to 60V is 0.025% +- 2digits 600V to 1000V is 0.03% +-2digits it's on par with a fluke 289 I have those as well. Quote from their data sheet. "Designed for use in laboratories and
R&D applications"
The Fluke looks like a Fisher Price toy compared to the Hioki! 😂
LOL - don't pick on the old man;) Hioki is like the youngster ready to play.
I've broke most if not all of my fluke 189's screw posts like yours, I got the thing zip tied to hold it from opening up (inherent dissasembly?).
So far (I think) fluke 189 is my best low voltage mVAC responding meter I have, somewhat better than my 289.
That Hioki looks better though, on the box (IIRC) they claim 3.000mVAC as lowest range, not many DMM can do that low VAC signal, usually one will go for dedicated mVAC/dB voltmeter.
I'd suggest a glove to handle that Hioki 4282's mainboard.
So far 90's era Fluke dmm seemed to have worse plastic quality than older or more modern era version (made in china?)
Hioki DT4282 is lacking bargraph though, for data logging I'd still go with fluke 287/289, they're so far the best I've found with "event logging capability".
Fluke 187/189 data loggibg does support event logging, but only accesible from FVF with your pc.
Dunno whether DT4282 does have event logging feature (or something similar).
Thank you - and great feedback. Awesome insight and I appreciate this field experience!! I do like the feel and response from the Hioki;)
Only 360p ? :o Noooo ! I wanted to see that Fluke in great detail :| Since not THAT many good quality vids of those are out there :(
Sorry...I recorded in 4k... I usually upload in 1k at least, so I don;'t know what happened. But, I am uploading the high res now - it is just taking some time. someone made a long video;j)
@@KissAnalog Ahh I see it's ok :) The funny thing that the mess up happened to the video with something that I'm really interested in haha xD Such coincidence ! Ya I've seen a couple good vids on these old meters but they're just pretty rare & I'm glad that now u have ur own version to add to that rare bunch :D
Una mala comparacion, compare el Hioki con un multimetro de su epoca seria lo justo. Tambien se ve la intencionalidad de una persona anti-fluke, esto se ve en todos sus videos claramente, quizas tenga un problema psicologico con esta marca. Her visto su curriculum, pero no apunta en el la calificacion de su empleo ¿Quizas barrendero?. Creo que ha de mirar quien y que marca de multimetros ha aportado mas al mundo de la electronica y se dara usted cuenta que ha sido Fluke.
You can keep buying Fluke if you like. I am trying to show value and what you get for your money. Fluke when they were Fluke before Danaher corporation bought them was much better and did do a lot to drive the market for better meters. But, Amprobe was around then too, and maybe didn't market themselves as well, but did a lot for the electrician! Now Danaher corp owns Amprobe as well. So you go ahead and buy Fluke which in my mind is now over priced and also you will get some of the worst test leads in the market. But this is IMHO - a street cleaner who has been an electrical engineer for 40 years and has earned the 'Engineering Excellence Award, from Boeing on solving a huge problem with the power supplies that are on the International Space Station. Tell me what is wrong with my reviews instead of sticking up for Fluke and questioning my background.
@@KissAnalog Hola: Aun a pesar de que no le guste la política de Fluke/Danaher o quien usted quiera, Fluke fabrica y paga unas certificaciones internacionales que otras marcas no lo hacen para ahorrar y así vender por debajo de un precio y ser competitivo, eso no hace que sus instrumentos sean mejores/peores que los Fluke, simplemente son distintos. Para combatir los cambios de política de una empresa como Fluke/danaher no se hace intentando confundir a los seguidores diciéndoles que los Fluke son peores que otras marcas, simplemente son exactamente iguales que antes de ser comprada por danaher, hay que ser realista, mis Fluke 8505 siguen siendo igual de buenos antes del 1998 que ahora. Yo he trabajado 42 años con la “NASA” en el mar Cantábrico, muchos lo entenderán, y no presumo de ello, ni intento inculcar mis inquietudes e ideas erróneas a la comunidad, si a usted n o le gusta la política de Fluke deje de ponerlos en sus videos pues es usted el que más los pone y exhibe o los compra para ello haciéndoles más propaganda aún.
Why just 360p quality of this video?
Thank you! I didn't know, and I don't know why. I film in 4k and usually upload in 1k. I'm uploading this in 1k now.
top review
Thank you!
Is it me, or was this video in max 360P quality ?
same for me, just waited for yoututbe servers rerender/reencode video, but its for hours still 360p. Something is wrong
Sorry about that! I don't know what happened. I usually upload in HD but something went wrong here. I am uploading a new HD file now... just taking awhile because some numbskull made a long video;)
@@KissAnalog Hello Sir, its not big deal or problem, atleast for me. Main point of your videos is not video quality, but about high quality informations stuff . And for sure at least at this video was really not 4K video quality so crucial.
Thank you for your long and detailed videos, test and reviews i learned lot of from them :)
@@KissAnalog , no problem Eddie ;-)
HIOKY engineering is like.....15 classes above Fluke even though Fluke is no slouch here (that's for sure) but.... man Even though both meters are more that 10 years old (designs) by now in "2024" still....Hioky beats the "s...t" out of poor....Fluke. I own a HIOKI DT4282 along with a FLUKE 287 ! But you know what ? HIOKI seems that much better and I keep reaching to HIOKI more often than not. Simply way, way more convenient. Even the proper gold plated probe tips SCREEMS !!!!! quality but ....unfortunately cannot say the same for Fluke ! Sorry Fluke but..... PS: the nano Siemens (conductance range) , speed, counts, uses way less batteries, weights less and features are way superior too!!! One advantage of Fluke against my HIOKI is that it has a somewhat nicer screen layout and characters + a "Barr-graph" (that is missing from the HIOKI).
Thanks for the great feedback. One thing to say is that it isn't a fair competition though - the yellow meter is more like 20 years old design:) If you look at the date of the manuals it will give that away. The Hioki is made in Japan - which they take very seriously....
360p?
Thanks -- sorry about that - please see this hiRes version ;) ruclips.net/video/YvivwYCxrBo/видео.html
@@KissAnalog BTW, did you ever tested the Hioki DT4282? Looks solid but not ready to order one over the Fluke 87.
Creo ke la mejor comparación es en campo en PRESICION impedancia resolución sensibilidad velocidad p medir resistencias capacitores diodos etcccy las funciones ke trae uno y otro yo he probado 87v d FLUKE y he probado d Hioki 4282 me kedo kon Hioki
Uh oh! ... time to buy a 5th oscilloscope or 15th multimeter?...this totally unexpected struggle is now real!! 😅
I like the mechanical lock-out feature that keeps you from sacrificing fuses to the gods of absent-mindedness and distraction! I wonder how that mechanism will hold up over time. Can't wait for the test video! "Let me know if you like this format", that would be an emphatic YES!! If you're looking to throw a sizeable chunk of change down for some new gear it's always nice being able to make a well-informed choice. I enjoy and appreciate your thorough teardowns and reviews!
LOL ...I love it;)
Thank you so much for your feedback! I too thought that if I'm going to show an expensive piece of equipment, I want to show enough that a person can see without my words;)
Hioki Green smd resistors are 0.1-0.01% tolarence! It's helps to precisely calibration 👌
Thank you for that info! Much appreciated;)
Knowing that the Japanese are MASTERS at reverse-engineering, and the Fluke is much older; it's hard to fall in love with a runner-up.
I'm about to buy a Hioki meter, but when it's time for me to go to work (HVACR), I'M GOING TO CARRY ONE OF MY FLUKES. sorry
Thanks for your feedback! I wouldn't be surprised that once you get your Hioki that you'll change your mind;)
no tests
Sorry - I need to do a follow up review now that I've been working with it.
I have been using a Fluke 123 oscilloscope for 12 years, mostly as a multimeter. I never really been happy with that oscilloscope, with its small, dull screen, poor quality probs, clunky functionality, slow and mildly inaccurate resistance measurements. And I just hate its stupid primitive nickel-metal battery that lasts only 1 hour and needs replacing every 4 years. I think Fluke quit trying a long time ago, except for what they charge for their products. They are number one there. Hioki just kills Fluke in design quality by a large margin; wish they made oscilloscopes too.
日本製😊
Yes, made in Japan - it means something;)
Japanese guys build some quality stuff. Fluke looks so cheapo in comparison
It is so true IMHO - hold and 87 in one hand a DT4282 in the other - and the yellow meter gets tossed;)
@@KissAnaloghola se agradece el vídeo. Estoy por iniciar en unos meses un curso de 6 meses para instalación es eléctricas residenciales e industriales y quiero comprar el multimetro, me puede recomendar alguno de ellos , ya que estoy pensando en conseguir un equipo muy bueno para estas tareas y para la electrónica y se inicio pensaba en un fluke 189 pero he leído que han bajado la calidad
For this review compared to your other reviews... you get zero
Thanks for the feedback Willie! What would you like to see?
Compare new with new meters and same with old ..that fluke was seriously messed up by someone along the line.
@@willielouw5154 OK I understand - but I had a request to compare it to the 189. I actually did a repair on this 189 where I replaced the terminal block: ruclips.net/video/PwYGuFa736c/видео.html
Thank you for your guide video very helpful
Thanks for your feedback!
Interesting to see some other doing a teardown of the meter, I did it some years ago: lygte-info.dk/review/DMMHioki%20DT4282%20UK.html
And did also remove the display.
When analyzing the meter I did not find a multimeter chip (The 189 has a Fluke chip to handle ranges), i.e. the meter is implemented with basically standard chips.
It is a good meter with a few unique features, but not the most advanced handheld meter I have, there you have to look at a France company, but that meter has a battery issue, it is the only meter I know that can use an external battery pack (That can be cheap). You can also find some really fancy handheld meters from a German company (Fluke meters are cheap compare to them ;) ).
These high end meters are very precise and have som interesting possibilities, but only in a few cases are they more useful than a more simple meter and if used on a bench they have to compete against bench meters (Bench meters usually wins there, they cost about the same as a high-end handheld but is more precise, faster and has much better statistic).
Thanks Henrik for this awesome feedback and for the link! I appreciate you and your background;) If it is OK with you, I'll provide your link in my follow up review?
The German brand being Gossen and the french brand being Metrix/Chauvin Arnoux?
@@mrpetit2 Correct, I have the Gossen Energy and the CA5293. They are both rather expensive, but can measure lot of stuff the Fluke 189/289 cannot.
@@KissAnalog You are welcome to link to my stuff. You can link to either the specific review or my master list of DMM reviews: lygte-info.dk/info/DMMReviews.html
I do also work on a program that can log from devices, including a lot of DMM's: lygte-info.dk/project/TestControllerCommands%20UK.html
Fluke 189/289 is supported, Hioki will soon be supported. The total list is around 400 devices at the current time, it can be found on EEVBlog: www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/program-that-can-log-from-many-multimeters/