Hioki DT4282 vs Fluke 189 multimeter; HiRes version - box opening and teardown
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- This will be a box opening and teardown of the Hioki DT4282 multimeter. The Hioki DT4282 multimeter is a high-end multimeter. It could be the best meter for audio work. It has a bandwidth of 100 kHz and is a 60k count meter! It also has a filter and can read dB and dBm, and has many more features. It is a very fast meter with a nice display. I'll compare it to the Fluke 189 as it is a great Multimeter, and is my favorite Fluke meter. The title of this video is 'Hioki DT4282 vs Fluke 189 multimeter; box opening and teardown'. #HiokiDT4282 #Fluke189 #FlukevsHioki #highcountmultimeter #kaiweetsmultimeter #DT4282
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Thank you Robert!!
@@KissAnalog They said it also fit on Fluke 189 - www.ebay.com/itm/262483857395?hash=item3d1d41cff3:g:EDkAAOSwjXRXYEq-
Hi Kriss, thanks for letting me know about this multimeter. It's incredible and in a short time, I hope to have mine with a lot of sacrifice. I leave you a hug and I want to tell you never lose your humility.
Thanks so much! Remember to tell Hioki you came from KissAnalog and they will give you a discount;)
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Thank you Kiss. You remind me of a teacher who gave everything for his students. I really thank you and keep uploading those magnificent videos that you do putting your heart. Greetings!
I appreciate you!
The PCB's layout is very well done.
Also, I think it could have a bit more robust input protection.
Very nice video as always. Thank you for your time to putting down the video.
Cheers!!!
Thanks Eduardo! It is a very nice build. I like the conductive plastic - really cool!
@@KissAnalog That "plastic" shield are very well design.
Mechanicaly, this multimer is awesome!!!
My favorite feature of the Fluke 189: Say you're doing a bunch of measurements and writing them down as you go. With the 189 you just press the yellow button and then range/save. The measurement is saved in the meter. When you're done you take the meter and turn the dial all the way clockwise to view/mem. From there you can scroll up and down through all the values you saved. When you're done just press the round blue button and they up/yes button to clear the memory. With the VFDs I work on I can do all my resistance checks without stopping then go back to my computer and write down all the values. No memorizing values, no putting down my probes and taking notes.
Thanks for that great field use value! I agree, that type of logging can be very helpful. The Hioki will do this too and I think there's some advantages with their system, but then it is what you are used to as well. I am not a fan of the 289 replacement of the 189 (I have both and I prefer the 189), but I now prefer the Hioki over both of them. I like the size and better crisper display. The 289 display is actually kind of crappy - IMHO of course;)
Great review. Thanks for bringing Hioki to my attention. It seems to be "The Mitutoyo of Multimeters". I love the Japanese built quality and attention to details. I am definitely going to look closer at this Multimeter.
Thanks Jan! I agree - the Hioki is a very nice meter.
Looks very nice and you certainly get your moneys worth with the number of chips inside! Any theories about why it is so complex (compared to the Fluke, or the functional complexity)? Even if we assume the big chip is just a general purpose LCD driver and all the functions are implemented with general purpose ICs, there does seem to be an awful lot of circuit for a multimeter!
Thanks John! I think it is because of the extra features and multi level filter. Also the extra digits/higher count probably needed support circuitry for the higher accuracy. I like the meter, but is expensive.
That is probably the coolest DMM ive ever seen
Thanks!! It has fast become my favorite:)
You are right..the Hioki is an awesome meter.
Built quality is one of a kind.
When i look at the accuracy of the meters.. i‘m quite surprised about the fluke.
Never heart about an DMM with 0.025% dc accuracy ..for example.
The specs are grazy.And this meter is „obsolete „?
No way ! Would be be interesting to see if the fluke is in the specs …and how to bring it back meeting the specs.
Thank you! This Hioki is an awesome meter. It is too bad that they discontinued the 189. The 289 is a huge meter. I did find a place where you can get the 189, and I have a link to that now in the description. I'd get the Hioki though if I were buying;)
This is the Hi-Res version of this video;)
The battery you pointed to in the Fluke 189 is a super cap. (For memory and setup retention.)
Yes, it is. I understand many have had problems with it leaking and ruining the board. I'll have to replace it but it also sounds like getting the exact part is not easy so the other solution is simply remove it.
I was going to buy a Fluke 289 but with the bad battery reviews decided to hold off. This meter here is REALLY impressive for build quality; we have kinda normalized our expectations to China mediocrity, so seeing high-end Japanese design and manufacture is akin to looking at German car engineering. I did not see a video on the electrical performance; is there one? I was hoping to get a meter that could also do data recording but mostly need high (as I can afford) DC voltage/Ohms accuracy so could probably cobble something else together to do the recording because normally if you're trying to trap a failure, accuracy is usually not a problem because the anomaly will usually push things way off.
Anyway, Eddie would you still consider this to be the must-get for its performance category because I'd like to get something but need to spend my retirement dollars wisely(!)? Thanks so much for all your videos and all you do for us! 73...
I am a Fluke Man.......well I was, since I brought this meter, I will never go back.......its just that good.......in fact I am about to buy another in case they run out of them !!
LOL I know just what you mean. The Hioki is an awesome meter! BTW, mention this channel and you should get a discount.
I just have bought a Hioki 4261 for my work at home. I am not sure if I should exchange it to the 4282 because it has better ranges. I will need to see if I can stretch the budget though for personal use. My old one has been from the late 1990 for around the house. It was time for an upgrade. The 4282 has a lot of chips - this is crazy. Many DMM are a one chip solution.
I think the 4261 is sufficient for most professional applications nonetheless I hope Kris does his review on the 4261.
Hi Eddie, thanks for the great Video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic ! Thank you very much ^.^
You bet! I hope this hi res version is easier to look at:)
Nice video and highly crafted dmm sir
Thanks! I do like this meter a lot;)
Does DT4282 has LoZ, Duty Cycle and Pulse Width measurement capabilities?
i have a Fluke 189. It was money well invested. It is with me around 13+ years and it's quality electronic wise and functions are superb, I use it a lot daily, it's by far my favorite meter. But the downside that made me a little disappointed from it and made me not to want another Fluke to buy is that its displays fades with time too much that is kind of hard ro read to a point that now I have to use it with it's light display on most of the time. But one thing disappointed me the most it's the not so good quality plastic. The rotary switch stud broke just from usage, never used it hard and one day just felt mushy and broke, never happened to me even on cheap meters. Then the plastic face also cracked from the only time it falled from the hood of my car, about 50cm high because of vibration of engine. My guess is aged plastic. Then all screws don't grab the plastic no more. Plastic is so delicate. And the plastic stand just came out just from standing too much I guess.
So I'm here because I kind of want to switch to this Hioki you're showing. I know the japanese are good for detail and this meter looks awesome.
Thanks for your review!
Dimples on otherwise smooth plastic is usually indicative of of a mark from it being formed haha. It looks like a flex pcb embedded in plastic with that carbon conductive paint. Purple things are ferrite beads.
Thanks Joey!
I went looking for the 2nd video and you have this video in there twice, but no test video.
Thanks for the question. What would you like to see for a follow up video? I do plan to do a high end meter shootout.
Where is the second part of the review? It would be nice to include the link in the description or comments section as RUclips does not suggest it anywhere from what I can see.
I'd like to know how it compares to its little brother the 4281. Almost had my hand on the trigger but Eddie keeps talking a talk so I don't want to dump 620 on a second meter haha. I got the siglent spd3303x-e from the wife. I can believe it.
Great question. I know that the 4281 only has the one current port where the 4282 has 2 - so one for amps and one for microamps and milliamps.
@Kiss Analog true. I figured it out shortly after. There's a very small price difference given the price range.
I bought one of these from the link. The manual received was in Japanese. I asked them if they would send the beautiful English version. They sent me a link to a PDF. You would think for $500 they would send the Bound, full color English Manual.
Thanks Leif! That's strange. I wonder if you say thanks, but I still would prefer a hard copy if they wouldn't comply? I'll make a comment to my contact and see what feedback I get.
Fluke 189, How long does the battery last?
Great question! It seems to last pretty long - as I don't find it annoying to change it very often as the 289 runs through them.
Just take a moment to appreciate how good the Fluke 189 actually is to finally have a decent competitor.
True! It is a mystery why Fluke discontinued the 180 series... My theory is it was the 87 killer;)
@@KissAnalog I hope my 189 will serve me for many, many years to come.
I'm sure it will. The terminals in my need to be replaced, but they must have been abused;) The way Fluke reads the terminals they need to be split which does make them a bit less robust, but it they are not man handled they should be good for years;)
The Fluke 189 came out in 2000 and 23 years later it still rocks. I trust this meter with my life.
I'm trying to find, but I guess you never tested this DMM for Accuracy on all scales, right? Any plans?
Is better to compare it against a new Fluke, I think you have the 289, right? And compare the accuracy for each measure.
Thank John - great question! I do have the 289, but it costs around $200 more, and the 189 is still available for sale on Ebay;) Also, the 289 is huge, and has changed into more of a logging or graphing meter. Not my favorite. But, you are right, to compare to the closest current meter by Fluke, it would be the 289. But I don't think they really compare. I think the Hioki kicks its but;) IMHO;)
@@KissAnalog finding a 189 is very hard. "Hioki kicks its but" let's see, do a fair and wide comparison, Accuracy for every measure.
Hi excellent video I just subscribe thank you for all the information I love fluke But I am looking for something different like that one I love it thank you I really appreciate it
Thanks so much! I appreciate you!
I thought hmm this is the hi res version of the multimeter 🙂
Yes, I don't know why the last upload was low res...I hope this is better;)
@@KissAnalog Now i see hi res 👁👁
Is there any compare HIOKI DT4282 with FLUKE 289 ??
Thanks for asking. The Fluke 289 is absurdly priced IMHO, and it is a very old design (about 20 years). The 189 is my favorite Fluke and compares better as it is much smaller and better functionality the the 289 IMHO. I'll do a review of High End meters and include the 289.
@@KissAnalog great. I'm looking for GOAT high end multimeter for R&D professional use. I have doubts between the choice of Fluke 289 and HIOKI dt4282... or mayby is there something even better? I will be grateful for tips
Best regards from Poland✌️
white linen gloves for electronics or in pinch latex gloves when handling the insides would be much better
Great point! Thanks!
Hioki DT4282
Can it measure duty cycle? I'm specifically interested in measuring duty cycle of switch mode power supplies.
I’ll have to try it out and see if it is just left out of the manual. I see a % in the display so I thought this would be used for duty cycle, but it may only be used for the 4 to 20 mA measurement function.
@@KissAnalog I'm a bit baffled! I went through the user manual, but couldn't find them mention anything about duty cycle. So I'm totally relying on you Eddie. ; )
I changed my answer above;) Thanks for asking this!
@@KissAnalog I'll appreciate it if you confirm this, I'm almost committed to buy it through the link you provided. I even contacted the seller from your link and asked the same question. They aren't sure either. They said better ask the manufacturer.
What a meter
I hoped you would like it! I have a low cost high count meter that I’ll review in a few days;)
@@KissAnalog that's awesome. My wife is getting a new kitchen so I am going to get a decent dmm in return I thin haha. I'm currently building my new workshop. Should be done by next week and the only piece of gear I need is a decent multimeter I can stick in one place and leave it there on the bench. My brother in law is the manager of the only authorized fluke dealer on this side of the province and he refuses to get me a deal on an 87v. Their so used to selling them to the power company for double to pad their yearly bonus that he won't do a favor. His price sickened me. I asked him if that's the best he could do and he was a dick about it. I do tons of stuff for him but not anymore.
the instruction manual has got me looking at these hiokis I think it's absolutely ridiculous fluke does not include one, there excuse of saving paper is the biggest crock ever they do it to make more money obviously
Thanks for your feedback! I'd like to have a quick reference card or something. Fluke used to provide these and they would fit in the bag - oops - they don't provide bags anymore either;)