I saw another video where they could see the server calls being made that corresponded to what Pokemon you would get. They showed it was only polling the server and showing results when you first selected your booster pack category and not when opening a specific pack.
There might be something to packs that vibrate when you move past them. I've only been able to open ~10 packs since I started paying attention to that and have pulled rare cards/cards I didn't have every time. I just pulled a Gengar ex from a pack that did it. Came here to see if anyone else had pointed this out like I did a few days ago. 🤷♀️
yup, like all other gatcha game mechanics, the result is determined upon purchase. things like packs being backward, bent corners, or any other phenomena are deliberate random flair to incite these types of rumors because it drives engagement
All the packs in the Carousel are probably the same, but I flip the first pack and then spin to open where the carousel lands. one day I will spin hard enough to pass the flipped pack again lol
Basically. Someone posted a short proving that the pack is determined as soon as you select open back and make it to the pack carousel. Their friend had a wonder pick from them before they opened the pack and it was the same cards as the wonder pick. It’s predetermined, the carousel is a lie
Yeah. It wouldn't make sense for them to add in a way to tell which pack has the best cards. They want you to spend money to get more packs- which may not happen if you can consistently get yourself the best cards with free packs. There's also the fact that they have to state the odds of getting each thing and there's no indication that the packs have different odds.
I’m a believer that the individual packs to select make no difference. It just adds fun and makes you feel as though you have a choice. Whatever you pick is already predetermined from the moment you select to open a pack
Yep. It's randomized when you open the pack, not when you go to the pack select screen. Doesn't matter what pack you pick, as the cards don't even exist until you tear it open.
Technically there is a difference in the packs since your choice decides whether you get a regular pack or a rare/god pack. But since god packs are so incredibly scarce, it's very likely that every pack in your carousel will be regular more often than not. So in most cases, yeah, all the packs will effectively be the same.
@@Eryncerise if it is a rare pack or not it is decided BEFORE the carousel! Everyone please pay attention and do not fall for this rumors. Try this : click "open" and than close the app. Open the app again. It will show you what you found in the pack, and you didn't see the carousel (that you can always skip with the bottom right button). Please stop spreading misinformation.
@@Eryncerise I think the pack is decided before the carousel and all the packs are "the same". If you would get a rare pack then all packs on the carousel would be rare packs. wouldnt make sense if your choice matters and you can scip the choosing part.... if only one pack would be rare how does the game choos if you skip? dosent make sense to make
I really dont think its real because in countries that you have to specifically list the odds for the game to even be legal. If they had different odds it would HAVE to be listed or they risk the app getting banned
@@Eve0420 Yes but a Rare Pack is indistinguishable from a normal pack prior to actually opening it. These "bent corner" packs are not actually the Rare Packs listed in the game.
@@Eve0420 Rare packs are packs with no diamond rarity cards, just alternate arts. This bent pack superstition is not about those, it's about the two non-common cards in regular packs supposedly being more likely to be higher rarities, which is clearly false. These bent edges on some packs and packs being flipped when shown (and the ability to flip them yourself), are solely meant to replicate the feeling of a real life pack opening.
I tested this way more than I should have and had pretty similar results to you. Lots of hits that made me think it was real but just as many if not more that had nothing at all. Head over heart on this one saying its a bust
This looks like "there's a Mew under the truck" all over again 🙂 It probably won't hurt choosing the packs with the bent corners - as the chance for good cards is likely the same as in other packs - but unless some comparative study with a good sample size has been done, I have my doubts.
My best pull using this method was my first and only koga. Trainer cards are the true rares for me it seems. Need Sabrina something fierce but nada. Any way to buy other trainers than the professor?
For all we know, all of those packs might just contain the same cards and the carousel is just made for flair to give the illusion of choice. The true gacha mechanic kicks at the moment you click "open a pack". Or maybe not. 🤷🏼♂️
Reading through the offering rates section and i think it is showing that cards are generated after selecting the pack. The exact wording is "Pack selection is the first selection process that is carried out. In pack selection a pack to be opened will be selected so that step 2, card selection can occur." and a bit after "after the pack to be opened is decided in step 1 (pack selection) step 2 is carried out (card selection)" so it seems like the whole wheel for choosing packs does absolutely nothing as the cards aren't even chosen until after you've chosen a pack.
I felt nostalgic coming into this video since I haven't really been getting video recommends from you since your ACNH videos (TRAGIC), but dang Austin, what a transformation! Huge difference between now and 4 years ago 💖
Someone already busted it, they got a different acount and on 1 they only clicked on doing a 1 card pack pull, not the carousel card pick. And on the other account the wonder pick of there card pack pull already showed up before the carousel pack was chosen
Hey Austin, I was rerolling for a good start on what will be my main account, and heard about the rumor. This is what I can say for my experience: I must have opened about 60ish packs while looking for the bent packs, and got no better odds than just opening the first pack available, also, got lots of miss packs. My experience rerolling was as follows, I was rerolling for a Pikachu deck: 1st reroll, got lots of alt art baby mons, like 12 or 13, but no EXs. 2nd and 3rd rerolls, got one or two useless EXs, and that was it. 4th reroll, got 1 Pikachu EX and 1 Zapdos EX, but was basically it. 5th reroll, searched for bent packs, got 3 Wigglytuff EX, 2 normal, and 1 full art, and 2 full art Brocks. 6th reroll, searched for bent packs, got basically nothing. 7th reroll, just opened the first available pack, got 3 Blastoise EX, 2 normal and 1 full art, got 2 Zapdos EX, and 2 Pikachu EX, 1 normal and 1 immersive. What was my conclusion? It's just luck. On the account that I made on my old Android phone to play the soft launch, I got 2 Pikachu EX, 1 normal and 1 immersive, and 2 Mewtow EX, 1 full art and 1 immersive, and a lot of full art basic cards, why? Just a case of good luck. The bent packs are definitly just a case of confirmation bias, if you didn't get the cards you want with the 30ish free packs you're given at the first few hours of the game, just reset the data, and open packs again, until you get what you need, there is no secret to get better pulls, other than spending money.
The cards are decided the moment you hit "open pack", so yea, nothing in that carousel matters. It's all to look pretty and give the illusion of having choice.
@WiseOakDakota I was suspicious about this, too, but I'm still not quite sure if it's true, myself. I've had one instance where I thought one was turned in the opposite direction, and I opened it and got nothing. I wasn't sure if, when I spun the carousel, I had spun the pack, as well. Since then, I've been making sure to spin the carousel underneath the packs so as not to disturb the individual packs. So far, I've had pretty good success with flipped packs. It still may be nothing, and it may just be luck, I don't know.
4:58 my first pack doing this had 2 EX cards in it! And since then I’ve gotten a new card almost every time including some of my best. BUT I don’t think this is real. This game is just generous at times. A friend who doesn’t do this gets EX cards more than I do. But with nothing better to do I sometimes waste my time looking for a bent pack.
I think the devs were just adding some random variations to the carousel and leaving room for people to have their rituals for choosing a pack. Ill always grab the messed up corner ones even tho they dont have higher rates because how else am i supposed to choose 😅
All the packs in the selection wheel are pre determined and will all have the same cards. As soon as you click “open pack” the cards you will get are determined regardless which one you end up tearing on the wheel. Confirmed by dataminers.
There is a way to know. Select a booster pack, get to the carousel. And close out the game. I heard that the game gives you the cards (since it is already determined) when you reopen the game, and that it is only an illusion of choice.
Just tested it, it tells you that the game closed while opening a booster pack, even though i hadn't selected one off of the carousel yet. It told me to see what i got by filtering by most recent cards. So no, this theory of bent packs is false.
The game would be illegal in EU if this was true. Since over here you have to fully write out the odds of each type of pack, and if a bent pack had different odds to a straight pack, then that would also have to be written out, you'd have to make a difference between "Genetic Apex Pikachu" & "Genetic Apex Pikachu bent". Which would be highly illogical, the bent effect is only there for aesthetics, so the packs looks a bit more authentic.
It’s not a guarantee, but I do think that noticeably crumpled packs have a higher probability of pita “hit”. Similar to how they say that charizards are pulled out of Venasaur base set packs. Not guaranteed,but at a higher probability then other packs
They patched It super fast before the videos got out. My cousin sent me the link for the first post or two and I got all the virtual world cards instantly two days ago. But even that night (Thursday) It all went back to normal and I believe they corrected It.
It's working for me, in 8 straight packs using this method I've gotten 6 holo and 2 ex Charizard ex and Starmie EX, atleast 1 pack with a holo always so far.
You're just lucky man. I did this with my last 10 plus packs and have only gotten one good pull. It's just a placebo. They would have to tell you in the odds if there were increased chances with some packs due to gambling laws in the EU.
I only open backwards packs and I’ve got SO much 😂 RNG is RANDOM guys there is no methods 😂 but keep spinning on 1 foot and chanting the Irish Sea shanty as you will
Yk i realized there’s another way you can know if the pack is going to give you a good card but it’s only when you’ve already selected a pack. When you start to open it normally the pack open it sounds like ripping paper, but sometimes it sounds completely different like a sheet or something metallic (maybe) and they’re pretty good. Keep your ears open.
It doesn't matter which pack you Open because they're all the same, the. Reason why I say this is that if you hit the fast forward button, it picks the pack for you and if you cool close out the app before you pick one, it still gives you The pokemon, so it's already decided before you even pick which pack to open
I just started my game during this video. I have opened 5 packs and have 3 EX cards. The 1st pack was the tutorial so it wouldn’t count for this test but I got a Marowak. The 2nd from the tutorial pull was a little scuffed in the top left but didn’t have an EX. The 3rd and 4th packs were scuffed top right and left respectively and had a Machamp and Executor. The 5th from the hourglass tutorial didn’t have any scuffed packs so I just spun the roulette to decide but I did happen to get a Mawile from the pack (my favorite Pokémon). Discounting the 1st (no choice) and 5th (no scuff) I’ve got a 2/3 hit rate from tested packs. Edit: I’ve since opened a few more scuffed packs with the early game mission rewards to start filling out the deck. I only got one Ex card (dupe Machamp) and the others did give me Meltan and Melmetal. Each pack gave new cards but I think the most interesting pull was 2 new cards and a repeat dome fossil, as it brings to mind that items may also be a reason the pack’s scuffed. All in all I did get more hits than misses at least, but this did skew the numbers. I also think level of scuffed may be a potential indication because having just the left side scuffed seemed to give less rewards than both corners bent. Something like “this pack looks a little different, maybe there’s something good” and “this pack stands out, I’ve got a good feeling” as a reward for paying attention. The dupe EX did come from a particularly scuffed pack.
Something I noticed because of this video is that some packs vibrate when I scroll through them one by one. I've only opened 3 packs since I've started paying attention and got an EX Wigglytuff, Gloom art, and a Kangaskhan that I didn't have yet.
I went through three card packs and got one Articuno EX and a Venusaur EX by observing the crinkles in the top right corners of the packs. I think it’s worth spending money, because you’ll never know until you try it
I am 3 in a row since learning about this but only with packs that have very significant crease in the top right corner. I got Articuno EX, Articuno EX, and gloom full art. It seems to work to me so far 🤷♀️ we will see after more testing
Someone named Rustywolf made a video a few days ago with proof using server data that the carousel is basically an animation and the cards received are determined upon clicking the open pack button, There are also instances where people's pack will appear in Wonder Pack for friends before a pack has been selected in the carousel screen.
In my own experience, when I first heard of a bent corner packs I looked out for them. The first one had an animated card, the second had both nidoking and nidoqueen. I've had more luck pulling new cards from bent corners than carouseling the packs. I'll still be opening bent corners whenever they pop up.
It's already been shown that in TCG Pocket as soon as you click the type of pack, the cards are already generated and even the pack will already be on wonder pick even if you wait 5-10 minutes to actually open it, so your choice in which pack you choose is strictly one for the immersion and has zero effect on the cards, the only time choice does matter is through the wonder pick, but for the packs, they're pre-generated upon chosing which of the 3 you want
New monetization strategy: 1. Start rumor that can be explained by chance, but sounds believable. 2. Have Austin John spend money to disprove. 3. Split massive gains with the Amish who are secretly in on it all. 🧑🌾📈
Its worth throwing this out there: Nintendo publishes the odds of each card because certain in countries, lootbox mechanics in games are required to have those odds for all to see. If they had some underlying system altering those odds to something different, it'd be 100% send -your-money-to-jail illegal.
I just opened a pack with a bent corner, and an Arcanine ex was the first card in the pack. But also, you can skip choosing a pack, and opening 10 at once also skips choosing a pack, so it's likely all a coincidence. EDIT: Yeah so I opened my next pack, same thing with the corner, and it also had an Arcanine ex in it (the other one that I didn't get last time). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly nothing matters I think, crimple or not, and even the pack you pick cause its all the same as soon as you click open, You can just skip the card spinning in animation and it will just give you the card to open. You can click open, quit the game and when you come back it gives you the cards without ever swiping the deck.
Knew how the video would end (based on the thumbnail). STILL watched the whole thing Appreciate how you're straight to the point AND your level of detail is still worth the watch.
nah, there was a test that showed that the pack selection screen doesn't matter, the contents are already selected at random after you press on buy a pack. (the app sends packets to the game server a la saving your progress once you press the buy a pack, it doesn't send another packet after selecting a pack on the pack roulette/carousel/selection menu)
5:42 well yes it does. Once you get on the choosing screen that pack already appears on the wonder pick for your friends. Already tried it with different friends.
Back again! I opted to open a Pikachu booster. The first pack that popped up was a BACKWARDS pack...but it had a "kerfuffled" right corner. I checked the other packs, but chose to open the initial pack with the bent corner. I received FOUR new cards to my collection (not exactly difficult at the level I am currently at)...a basic Seel, a basic Growlithe, as well as, a Zapdos AND a full art Gyrados! I'm pulling big on the bent packs
I've just been trying to spin them all and grab one randomly. Never even thought to inspect them. I actually was annoyed I couldn't make the packs go in a fast circle lol.
After opening a pack, press and hold the cards and slightly slide to the right, you'll be able to see the edges of upcoming 4 diamond rares/FA's/EX's, helps to tell you to speed through the pack or prepare for pleasant surprise/getting a card you already have. Not game-breaking, but i did get a nice screenshot of a god pack this way in the vanilla game.
So update on the crimped pack rumour… Had 1 in a carrousel yesterday and then in my first pick of the day today, neither had anything special in them. Both were VERY crimped and not gonna lie I was excited, I doubted whether the first one was crimped after I got nothing special, but second time I was 100% certain and still nothing. I am certain now it is just a completely random variation.
Short answer: No, it doesn't affect the cards you get. Long answer: As soon as you click "open pack" the game predetermines what cards you are going to get, so no matter which pack in the carousel you pick, they are all going to have the same cards. And someone already proved this with a computer pulling data from the game in real time, so you can check that out if you are not convinced.
I delved in RNG abuse during 5th gen and most of these things are just mere illusions. Most things in games are pre-determined, like which exact date and second you can get certain shinies with perfect stats. Even the coin flips are pre-determined. However, the button presses "can" matter because your frames do change when you do. It's up to the devs what variables they'll use to randomize the results.
Watched this last night. Opened a pack just now and reporting in: I went through the entire carousel and noted one that looked maybe a little bent. Went back to it when none of the others were, looked at it again, decided it wasn’t really. Opened the pack next to it and got the gold Mewtwo, plus 3 cards I didn’t have. The bent corner trick did absolutely nothing for me, but pausing to check them all ended up with me getting a super rare card, so thanks!
Fun fact: When you close the game between tapping the "Open Pack"-button and selecting a pack from this carousel, you still get cards already. Ig the cards are determined before even selecting one of those packs.
So I recently found out since my phone does vibrations for the littlest things, but when I cycle through the "carousel " of cards I feel a subtle vibration and when I feel a bigger vibration then the pack revealed a good card each time.
This is not an endorsement of this strategy, but after watching this I opened 3 packs. None on the first two had a crumpled corner. I picked the packs I felt were the most crumpled, but I think it was mostly placebo there. Both packs did well with the first one getting a new Machamp ex. Second pack got Full art Slowpoke and Full art Rapidash. The third pack is where things get interesting. I did find a crumpled pack in this set. I got my first Immersive card: Charizard. This likely means nothing, but damn if it doesn't feel like something.
I don't think it is real, but for me, the top right corner has given me rare cards 90% of the time. I might be a fallacy on my part, but I ALWAYS open the packs with the crinkle on the top right if I get it. No second thought.
Heres what I'll say. Ever since i started using the bent pack trick my collection has starting growing extremely fast. I went from getting 1 hit every 4 or 5 packs to getting one hit every 2 packs.
I made a comment about this days ago. Every time I've picked a pack that does that I've gotten exs/art rares/new cards. Just pulled a gengar ex on that.
This absolutely works! Saw this video and opened a Pikachu pack just to try. Literally THE ONLY PACK that had the messed up top right corner got me a Pikachu EX.
The first video you made about what packs you opened from first starting. I did and wound up with the exact same cards you had. Choosing the exact same options you did. Even the guess the which card flip over game. To the exact same cards in the random packs.
Someone on tiktok said it had been tested and every pack in the carousel is the same, it's all just for show. My best reset that I stuck with was using the skip arrow at the bottom and opening the pack it gave me
i dont think i ever saw creased packs but i have a newfound superstition about the packs that appear backwards and always open those believing they're luckier
TLDR. No.
Thank you Austin John Plays, very cool 👍
I saw another video where they could see the server calls being made that corresponded to what Pokemon you would get. They showed it was only polling the server and showing results when you first selected your booster pack category and not when opening a specific pack.
There might be something to packs that vibrate when you move past them. I've only been able to open ~10 packs since I started paying attention to that and have pulled rare cards/cards I didn't have every time. I just pulled a Gengar ex from a pack that did it. Came here to see if anyone else had pointed this out like I did a few days ago. 🤷♀️
yup, like all other gatcha game mechanics, the result is determined upon purchase. things like packs being backward, bent corners, or any other phenomena are deliberate random flair to incite these types of rumors because it drives engagement
Bent packs don't even appear if you have high performance settings on. It seems like a cosmetic feature to make it more like opening them IRL
I don't realize how much I associate someone's appearance with their facial hair until it changes
You can see it with how babies react to their father getting shaved.
It's traumatizing
mandjtv...
The face is the part of the person that changes the least while being the most visible, so when it does it tends to throw people off
Same!! 😢 every time i had a professor shave, it would throw me off. Get used to it. Then the beard came back, get thrown off. Rinse and repeat
90% of all TCG Pocket pack openers stop before they pull an ultra rare card
@@grunkleg.2934 i swear i can leave it whenever I want
Do you want gambling addiction? Because that's how you get gambling addiction. 😅
@@Trekyhunterwhat’s addiction it’s just a stress reliever 😂 at least that’s what I tell my therapist
Bro, me IRL trying to decide which ETB to buy, and eventually buying both because WHAT IF I put back the one with the hit
@@JohnnyZ3710yeah🎉🎉🎉🎉
I just spin the carousel of packs, and whatever it lands on, that's what I open.
All the packs in the Carousel are probably the same, but I flip the first pack and then spin to open where the carousel lands.
one day I will spin hard enough to pass the flipped pack again lol
Same
Same
Same :D
That’s what I’ve been doing too
this is the new "hold down + smashing B helps capturing pokemon"
@@Drakull_Art lmfaoooooo 😂 😂 dude I remember that 😭 yes, I still did it 🤣
I always did L+R lol
Yours was down on the + pad plus smashing B? I was told holding right on the + plus holding B at the same time will 100% guarantee a catch.
@@Geneticspore for me it was hold Left on D-pad + A, but you had to do it right as the ball closed ... to early or late and it didn't work.
@@Drakull_Art worked every time 😂😂😂
“Mew under the truck”
“Holding B will make the Pokémon stay in the ball more often”
“ the bent corners on a pack mean better odds at a rare card”
Basically. Someone posted a short proving that the pack is determined as soon as you select open back and make it to the pack carousel. Their friend had a wonder pick from them before they opened the pack and it was the same cards as the wonder pick. It’s predetermined, the carousel is a lie
Don't forget the white rock in Hoenn leading to a Deoxys encounter in space in the og Gen 3 games 😂
Short version: No, it doesn't affect it
thank you
Not all hero’s wear capes
Guarantee it was just done to simulate a bit more realism from the packs but pokemin fans have always been very superstitious i feel
@@jamezgaming9061 Thx, I really don't understand why not make a short of that..
Yeah. It wouldn't make sense for them to add in a way to tell which pack has the best cards. They want you to spend money to get more packs- which may not happen if you can consistently get yourself the best cards with free packs. There's also the fact that they have to state the odds of getting each thing and there's no indication that the packs have different odds.
It’s actually if it’s crimpled but you’re also in the southern hemisphere during a full moon. Try again with those conditions
@Evans_Pokestop don't forget needs to be the third thursday of the month and u need to be wearing yellow
Everyone also forgets that you need to be on exactly 46% battery
@@whackareal 46% was a rumor started by people to stop other from getting the good cards, its 15%
clean shave austin jumpscare
Same
Fax I didn’t recognize my dude for a second
Bro lookin gooodddd
That's not clean shaven....clean shaven means there's NO HAIR AT ALL.
4:16 one of the most genuine "What the F***" I've ever heard 😂
"they can't watch this video" sent me 😂
Same 😂
I’m a believer that the individual packs to select make no difference. It just adds fun and makes you feel as though you have a choice. Whatever you pick is already predetermined from the moment you select to open a pack
Yep. It's randomized when you open the pack, not when you go to the pack select screen. Doesn't matter what pack you pick, as the cards don't even exist until you tear it open.
Technically there is a difference in the packs since your choice decides whether you get a regular pack or a rare/god pack. But since god packs are so incredibly scarce, it's very likely that every pack in your carousel will be regular more often than not. So in most cases, yeah, all the packs will effectively be the same.
@@Eryncerise if it is a rare pack or not it is decided BEFORE the carousel!
Everyone please pay attention and do not fall for this rumors.
Try this : click "open" and than close the app.
Open the app again.
It will show you what you found in the pack, and you didn't see the carousel (that you can always skip with the bottom right button).
Please stop spreading misinformation.
I think thats why you can skip the carrousel
@@Eryncerise I think the pack is decided before the carousel and all the packs are "the same". If you would get a rare pack then all packs on the carousel would be rare packs.
wouldnt make sense if your choice matters and you can scip the choosing part.... if only one pack would be rare how does the game choos if you skip? dosent make sense to make
I really dont think its real because in countries that you have to specifically list the odds for the game to even be legal. If they had different odds it would HAVE to be listed or they risk the app getting banned
The listed odd actually do state exactly that. You have a 0.050% change to get a "Rare pack"
@@Eve0420 Yes but a Rare Pack is indistinguishable from a normal pack prior to actually opening it. These "bent corner" packs are not actually the Rare Packs listed in the game.
@@Eve0420 rare packs are god packs with 5 hits
@@lightningstrike9876 i know, i'm just saying that the provided odds do reflect that there are technically different versions of the same pack
@@Eve0420 Rare packs are packs with no diamond rarity cards, just alternate arts. This bent pack superstition is not about those, it's about the two non-common cards in regular packs supposedly being more likely to be higher rarities, which is clearly false.
These bent edges on some packs and packs being flipped when shown (and the ability to flip them yourself), are solely meant to replicate the feeling of a real life pack opening.
I tested this way more than I should have and had pretty similar results to you. Lots of hits that made me think it was real but just as many if not more that had nothing at all. Head over heart on this one saying its a bust
Is it possible that the pull rates are slightly higher?
This looks like "there's a Mew under the truck" all over again 🙂
It probably won't hurt choosing the packs with the bent corners - as the chance for good cards is likely the same as in other packs - but unless some comparative study with a good sample size has been done, I have my doubts.
I hear if you mash "b" it increases your chance of a rare pull
@@AmaranthOriginalI’m still mashing B it’s just carved into my system 😂
Mew was under that truck, it's just that there is only 1 Mew in the entire world, the kid who was first to discover was the only one who got it.
Yeah, it's simply Confirmation Bias. I also did some testing of my own (with around 20 packs). Most of them didn't have any EX.
I found out about this rumor last night and 0 rares in 12 packs
@@R3C_Tech it’s a scam someone made up. Tried it myself and legit pulled only commons
My best pull using this method was my first and only koga. Trainer cards are the true rares for me it seems. Need Sabrina something fierce but nada. Any way to buy other trainers than the professor?
@ I still don’t have Koga myself. Or the helix fossil
I'm missing 22 cards including some really bad ones and Venasaur EX lol
@@R3C_Tech you can trade in pack points for one
The answer: No all just neat cosmetics. And that's it, just rumors.
Oml. The Amish catching strays from AJP was not on my bingo card. Good lord that was funny.
For all we know, all of those packs might just contain the same cards and the carousel is just made for flair to give the illusion of choice. The true gacha mechanic kicks at the moment you click "open a pack".
Or maybe not. 🤷🏼♂️
@@stormborn23 this is exactly how it works. The cards are set when you click "open pack", the carousel is just an illusion of choice.
Amish Austin John doesn't exist he can't hurt you
Amish Austin John:
Amish John Plays here
Reading through the offering rates section and i think it is showing that cards are generated after selecting the pack. The exact wording is "Pack selection is the first selection process that is carried out. In pack selection a pack to be opened will be selected so that step 2, card selection can occur." and a bit after "after the pack to be opened is decided in step 1 (pack selection) step 2 is carried out (card selection)" so it seems like the whole wheel for choosing packs does absolutely nothing as the cards aren't even chosen until after you've chosen a pack.
I felt nostalgic coming into this video since I haven't really been getting video recommends from you since your ACNH videos (TRAGIC), but dang Austin, what a transformation! Huge difference between now and 4 years ago 💖
Someone already busted it, they got a different acount and on 1 they only clicked on doing a 1 card pack pull, not the carousel card pick. And on the other account the wonder pick of there card pack pull already showed up before the carousel pack was chosen
Hey Austin, I was rerolling for a good start on what will be my main account, and heard about the rumor.
This is what I can say for my experience:
I must have opened about 60ish packs while looking for the bent packs, and got no better odds than just opening the first pack available, also, got lots of miss packs.
My experience rerolling was as follows, I was rerolling for a Pikachu deck:
1st reroll, got lots of alt art baby mons, like 12 or 13, but no EXs.
2nd and 3rd rerolls, got one or two useless EXs, and that was it.
4th reroll, got 1 Pikachu EX and 1 Zapdos EX, but was basically it.
5th reroll, searched for bent packs, got 3 Wigglytuff EX, 2 normal, and 1 full art, and 2 full art Brocks.
6th reroll, searched for bent packs, got basically nothing.
7th reroll, just opened the first available pack, got 3 Blastoise EX, 2 normal and 1 full art, got 2 Zapdos EX, and 2 Pikachu EX, 1 normal and 1 immersive.
What was my conclusion? It's just luck. On the account that I made on my old Android phone to play the soft launch, I got 2 Pikachu EX, 1 normal and 1 immersive, and 2 Mewtow EX, 1 full art and 1 immersive, and a lot of full art basic cards, why? Just a case of good luck.
The bent packs are definitly just a case of confirmation bias, if you didn't get the cards you want with the 30ish free packs you're given at the first few hours of the game, just reset the data, and open packs again, until you get what you need, there is no secret to get better pulls, other than spending money.
The cards are decided the moment you hit "open pack", so yea, nothing in that carousel matters. It's all to look pretty and give the illusion of having choice.
I have noticed that some packs also show up backwards, and I ALWAYS get something good from them
@WiseOakDakota I was suspicious about this, too, but I'm still not quite sure if it's true, myself. I've had one instance where I thought one was turned in the opposite direction, and I opened it and got nothing. I wasn't sure if, when I spun the carousel, I had spun the pack, as well. Since then, I've been making sure to spin the carousel underneath the packs so as not to disturb the individual packs. So far, I've had pretty good success with flipped packs. It still may be nothing, and it may just be luck, I don't know.
4:58 my first pack doing this had 2 EX cards in it! And since then I’ve gotten a new card almost every time including some of my best. BUT I don’t think this is real. This game is just generous at times. A friend who doesn’t do this gets EX cards more than I do. But with nothing better to do I sometimes waste my time looking for a bent pack.
Same for me. After seeing this, my first pacl had 2 full arts (duplicates tho) and the second had new cards I was missing
I think the devs were just adding some random variations to the carousel and leaving room for people to have their rituals for choosing a pack. Ill always grab the messed up corner ones even tho they dont have higher rates because how else am i supposed to choose 😅
All the packs in the selection wheel are pre determined and will all have the same cards. As soon as you click “open pack” the cards you will get are determined regardless which one you end up tearing on the wheel. Confirmed by dataminers.
Already saw your costume. Hilarious!
There is a way to know. Select a booster pack, get to the carousel. And close out the game. I heard that the game gives you the cards (since it is already determined) when you reopen the game, and that it is only an illusion of choice.
Just tested it, it tells you that the game closed while opening a booster pack, even though i hadn't selected one off of the carousel yet. It told me to see what i got by filtering by most recent cards. So no, this theory of bent packs is false.
@@3339ty replying to your own comment, so “real” 😂
@ I had never tested till then. But yep I am a real person thanks for affirming my humanity. Try for yourself if you don’t believe me lol.
The game would be illegal in EU if this was true. Since over here you have to fully write out the odds of each type of pack, and if a bent pack had different odds to a straight pack, then that would also have to be written out, you'd have to make a difference between "Genetic Apex Pikachu" & "Genetic Apex Pikachu bent".
Which would be highly illogical, the bent effect is only there for aesthetics, so the packs looks a bit more authentic.
Infact Europe here, no bent pack ever out for me in 100 packs to try... they all straight as nails
It’s not a guarantee, but I do think that noticeably crumpled packs have a higher probability of pita “hit”. Similar to how they say that charizards are pulled out of Venasaur base set packs. Not guaranteed,but at a higher probability then other packs
Back with the playground rumors. I'm loving this
ETA: I just got a Starmie EX from a charizard pack with a crimped top right corner
The music stopping when you get an EX was sending me
Austin is taking part in No-Shave November.
Its the top right side. Not the left. And it has to be really crimpled
I've opened 12 packs with the bent corners across several accounts and have gotten nothing better than a 3 diamond
They patched It super fast before the videos got out. My cousin sent me the link for the first post or two and I got all the virtual world cards instantly two days ago. But even that night (Thursday) It all went back to normal and I believe they corrected It.
Thanks for taking one for the team.
It's working for me, in 8 straight packs using this method I've gotten 6 holo and 2 ex
Charizard ex and Starmie EX, atleast 1 pack with a holo always so far.
You're just lucky man. I did this with my last 10 plus packs and have only gotten one good pull. It's just a placebo. They would have to tell you in the odds if there were increased chances with some packs due to gambling laws in the EU.
That "what the f***" made me audibly laugh out loud.
I only open backwards packs and I’ve got SO much 😂 RNG is RANDOM guys there is no methods 😂 but keep spinning on 1 foot and chanting the Irish Sea shanty as you will
Yk i realized there’s another way you can know if the pack is going to give you a good card but it’s only when you’ve already selected a pack. When you start to open it normally the pack open it sounds like ripping paper, but sometimes it sounds completely different like a sheet or something metallic (maybe) and they’re pretty good. Keep your ears open.
i just downloaded the game and followed your day 1 tips, thank you!
We got shaved Austin John before GTA 6
I accidentally did a backwards pack on my second phone and got a god pack xD
Same! Got 3 two star cards and 2 one star cards. My craziest pull yet.
4:05 I just died laughing at! The expression in your voice I'm so weak!
Every "bent pack" I've opened had nothing above a 2 diamond card in them. Long story short, it doesn't mean anything.
@@HexSableye same man
1:58 So glad u think this way 🙏🏼🙏🏼
It doesn't matter which pack you Open because they're all the same, the. Reason why I say this is that if you hit the fast forward button, it picks the pack for you and if you cool close out the app before you pick one, it still gives you The pokemon, so it's already decided before you even pick which pack to open
I just started my game during this video. I have opened 5 packs and have 3 EX cards.
The 1st pack was the tutorial so it wouldn’t count for this test but I got a Marowak.
The 2nd from the tutorial pull was a little scuffed in the top left but didn’t have an EX.
The 3rd and 4th packs were scuffed top right and left respectively and had a Machamp and Executor.
The 5th from the hourglass tutorial didn’t have any scuffed packs so I just spun the roulette to decide but I did happen to get a Mawile from the pack (my favorite Pokémon).
Discounting the 1st (no choice) and 5th (no scuff) I’ve got a 2/3 hit rate from tested packs.
Edit: I’ve since opened a few more scuffed packs with the early game mission rewards to start filling out the deck. I only got one Ex card (dupe Machamp) and the others did give me Meltan and Melmetal. Each pack gave new cards but I think the most interesting pull was 2 new cards and a repeat dome fossil, as it brings to mind that items may also be a reason the pack’s scuffed. All in all I did get more hits than misses at least, but this did skew the numbers.
I also think level of scuffed may be a potential indication because having just the left side scuffed seemed to give less rewards than both corners bent. Something like “this pack looks a little different, maybe there’s something good” and “this pack stands out, I’ve got a good feeling” as a reward for paying attention. The dupe EX did come from a particularly scuffed pack.
Something I noticed because of this video is that some packs vibrate when I scroll through them one by one. I've only opened 3 packs since I've started paying attention and got an EX Wigglytuff, Gloom art, and a Kangaskhan that I didn't have yet.
I went through three card packs and got one Articuno EX and a Venusaur EX by observing the crinkles in the top right corners of the packs. I think it’s worth spending money, because you’ll never know until you try it
I am 3 in a row since learning about this but only with packs that have very significant crease in the top right corner. I got Articuno EX, Articuno EX, and gloom full art. It seems to work to me so far 🤷♀️ we will see after more testing
Someone named Rustywolf made a video a few days ago with proof using server data that the carousel is basically an animation and the cards received are determined upon clicking the open pack button,
There are also instances where people's pack will appear in Wonder Pack for friends before a pack has been selected in the carousel screen.
In my own experience, when I first heard of a bent corner packs I looked out for them. The first one had an animated card, the second had both nidoking and nidoqueen. I've had more luck pulling new cards from bent corners than carouseling the packs. I'll still be opening bent corners whenever they pop up.
It's already been shown that in TCG Pocket as soon as you click the type of pack, the cards are already generated and even the pack will already be on wonder pick even if you wait 5-10 minutes to actually open it, so your choice in which pack you choose is strictly one for the immersion and has zero effect on the cards, the only time choice does matter is through the wonder pick, but for the packs, they're pre-generated upon chosing which of the 3 you want
Man this takes me back, loved your videos when everyone was playing botw, awesome
It works! I got the gold charizard out of a bent pack!
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4:10 that commentary caught me so off guard 😂😂
Love the videos Austin! Think you can do a video covering which cards are in each pack cover?
Its worth throwing this out there:
Nintendo publishes the odds of each card because certain in countries, lootbox mechanics in games are required to have those odds for all to see. If they had some underlying system altering those odds to something different, it'd be 100% send -your-money-to-jail illegal.
This reminds me of the "Hold down on the dpad and B for a better chance at catching the pokemon" that was entirely untrue but I do it anyways.
Idk if this has been known or not but the closer you get to a good card in a pack, the more colors start to appear in the background
I just opened a pack with a bent corner, and an Arcanine ex was the first card in the pack. But also, you can skip choosing a pack, and opening 10 at once also skips choosing a pack, so it's likely all a coincidence.
EDIT: Yeah so I opened my next pack, same thing with the corner, and it also had an Arcanine ex in it (the other one that I didn't get last time). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly nothing matters I think, crimple or not, and even the pack you pick cause its all the same as soon as you click open, You can just skip the card spinning in animation and it will just give you the card to open. You can click open, quit the game and when you come back it gives you the cards without ever swiping the deck.
Knew how the video would end (based on the thumbnail). STILL watched the whole thing
Appreciate how you're straight to the point AND your level of detail is still worth the watch.
Wow. the snap to cue the intro. I’m swooned, Austin John ❤
Also, there is a certain cutting sound if you got an awesome card inside. Like a bam sound.
Got crown rare pika in my second bent pack and ex mew2 in my first.( I did not knew about bent packs before)
nah, there was a test that showed that the pack selection screen doesn't matter, the contents are already selected at random after you press on buy a pack. (the app sends packets to the game server a la saving your progress once you press the buy a pack, it doesn't send another packet after selecting a pack on the pack roulette/carousel/selection menu)
5:42 well yes it does. Once you get on the choosing screen that pack already appears on the wonder pick for your friends. Already tried it with different friends.
Back again! I opted to open a Pikachu booster. The first pack that popped up was a BACKWARDS pack...but it had a "kerfuffled" right corner. I checked the other packs, but chose to open the initial pack with the bent corner. I received FOUR new cards to my collection (not exactly difficult at the level I am currently at)...a basic Seel, a basic Growlithe, as well as, a Zapdos AND a full art Gyrados! I'm pulling big on the bent packs
My guy, haven't watched your vids for a while and I gotta say. YOUR LOOKING GREAT! Glad your taking care of yourself :)
I could have sworn it was said somewhere that your cards are already determined when you go into the pack picking UI and its just flair
I've just been trying to spin them all and grab one randomly. Never even thought to inspect them. I actually was annoyed I couldn't make the packs go in a fast circle lol.
1. You can move all opened cards at the same time to check if the last card is a rare one, 2. You can open pack backwards, just turn the pack
After opening a pack, press and hold the cards and slightly slide to the right, you'll be able to see the edges of upcoming 4 diamond rares/FA's/EX's, helps to tell you to speed through the pack or prepare for pleasant surprise/getting a card you already have. Not game-breaking, but i did get a nice screenshot of a god pack this way in the vanilla game.
So update on the crimped pack rumour… Had 1 in a carrousel yesterday and then in my first pick of the day today, neither had anything special in them. Both were VERY crimped and not gonna lie I was excited, I doubted whether the first one was crimped after I got nothing special, but second time I was 100% certain and still nothing. I am certain now it is just a completely random variation.
I think its the right side where it says A1, first one i opened was very good
Short answer: No, it doesn't affect the cards you get.
Long answer: As soon as you click "open pack" the game predetermines what cards you are going to get, so no matter which pack in the carousel you pick, they are all going to have the same cards. And someone already proved this with a computer pulling data from the game in real time, so you can check that out if you are not convinced.
"who that guy? Where Austin go??" definitely was my first reaction when i saw the thumbnail and preview xD
I delved in RNG abuse during 5th gen and most of these things are just mere illusions.
Most things in games are pre-determined, like which exact date and second you can get certain shinies with perfect stats. Even the coin flips are pre-determined. However, the button presses "can" matter because your frames do change when you do. It's up to the devs what variables they'll use to randomize the results.
Last video "I'm done buying packs with gold"
Watched this last night. Opened a pack just now and reporting in: I went through the entire carousel and noted one that looked maybe a little bent. Went back to it when none of the others were, looked at it again, decided it wasn’t really. Opened the pack next to it and got the gold Mewtwo, plus 3 cards I didn’t have.
The bent corner trick did absolutely nothing for me, but pausing to check them all ended up with me getting a super rare card, so thanks!
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Fun fact: When you close the game between tapping the "Open Pack"-button and selecting a pack from this carousel, you still get cards already. Ig the cards are determined before even selecting one of those packs.
You can hold and drag the cards across to see if there is anything good at the end after you open it
So I recently found out since my phone does vibrations for the littlest things, but when I cycle through the "carousel " of cards I feel a subtle vibration and when I feel a bigger vibration then the pack revealed a good card each time.
This is not an endorsement of this strategy, but after watching this I opened 3 packs. None on the first two had a crumpled corner. I picked the packs I felt were the most crumpled, but I think it was mostly placebo there. Both packs did well with the first one getting a new Machamp ex. Second pack got Full art Slowpoke and Full art Rapidash. The third pack is where things get interesting. I did find a crumpled pack in this set. I got my first Immersive card: Charizard. This likely means nothing, but damn if it doesn't feel like something.
Seeing someone shave is like them taking of their glasses.
I don't think it is real, but for me, the top right corner has given me rare cards 90% of the time. I might be a fallacy on my part, but I ALWAYS open the packs with the crinkle on the top right if I get it. No second thought.
Heres what I'll say. Ever since i started using the bent pack trick my collection has starting growing extremely fast. I went from getting 1 hit every 4 or 5 packs to getting one hit every 2 packs.
I had pulls where a pack slightly vibrated, am i the only one who had that?
I made a comment about this days ago. Every time I've picked a pack that does that I've gotten exs/art rares/new cards. Just pulled a gengar ex on that.
Pretty sure the packets of code sent when you click "open" shows that all 10 packs on the carousel are identical.
This absolutely works! Saw this video and opened a Pikachu pack just to try. Literally THE ONLY PACK that had the messed up top right corner got me a Pikachu EX.
The first video you made about what packs you opened from first starting. I did and wound up with the exact same cards you had. Choosing the exact same options you did. Even the guess the which card flip over game. To the exact same cards in the random packs.
Someone on tiktok said it had been tested and every pack in the carousel is the same, it's all just for show. My best reset that I stuck with was using the skip arrow at the bottom and opening the pack it gave me
i dont think i ever saw creased packs but i have a newfound superstition about the packs that appear backwards and always open those believing they're luckier