I'm seein a number of hate comments towards the pilot from the first dogfight in this vid, if you dont know the guy I understand your anger but this dude is one of the chillest most softspoken guys out there and it just so happens that a moment of frustration is the only thing that the viewers here are able to see. It is exceedingly rare to ever find him like this. We have all been frustrated like this before so I hope you guys can understand.
yeah he's a friend of mine we flew quite a lot together and I have never seen him do j'out's or airfield camping stuff (he specifically warns people in chat to not do these stuff). and as you mentioned, he's the chillest guy I have ever seen in war thunder
@@specc_s1452 being aware means nothing for them. The freeaboos have them by the balls. They will do as the freeaboos say since most of the money comes from them. They're the ones that will spend x amount of $ to research a plane without even playing.
God i have been waiting long for gaijin to add the german equalizer, nothing have I needed more than ever in such a moment. My tt german setup is done and I shall rest in 70% winrates in grb once again. Germany stronk again 🥹
the flight model is really similar to what it is and what it can do IRL, you just need to see IRL demonstration of it, the istantanius turns is a little too much but it isn't that far off, you should even be able to split the engines to do some cools things in it
@@parapat9957 The IRL one is not able to do backflips inside of its own axis and is not exceptional at low-speed fighting. Airbus made the AMK for it to remedy it. IRL it has an AoA limit of around 25 degrees similar to an F-16. In game it is set to 29 degrees on damping and can safely do 50 in manual.
@@squishface80085 considering both EF and f16 flight models 25 degrees for both doesn't seem realistic, the f16 design was good for the time but it's old, the best they could get with it was transforming it in a delta wing with the f16x, it's a well known that delta wings can pull way more even considering that with that the EF has almost 2 times if not more wing area to help it turn, if you put in modern avionics, big canards with a great distance from the center of the plane, composite materials and all the thrust the 25 degrees is hevily limited IRL, it could probably pull from 30 to 35s without limitations if you compare the 2 aircrafts. the this is WT we are talking about, the pilots here can pull some more AOA than in IRL so I can see why it casn pull it off, even with how mutch I love the EF 50 degrees are still a little BS, I could understand even 40 but 50, still nice video
@@hemendraravi4787 as said the backflips are overexagerated, if you want to see good demonstration look up Italian EFs for it, they are the ones who push it a little more, there are countless times where the plane basically goes sideways,they are electronically limited and you don't really want to play like that with 120 milions
full real controls eurofighter on Manual SAS is so violent with the backflips but if you can control it, holy shit. I found the best way is being very sparse with pitch input and pre-emptively catching it with lots of negative pitch when it starts to flip over. honestly if it weren't for the F-16A Blk10s ratefight ability, or the J-10As lowspeed fm I'd say there's nothing better than the typhoon right now
i play alot of customs with friends and dogfighted f16s, f15s, mirages, jf17s, flankers, and I havent lost once. I am not a good dogfighter, the eurofighter is just that good. will say the rafale is scary tho
2:59 oh, I know this guy. Firstly he’s not good in DF in jets and secondly this little pos does it all the time. Tbh I rarely see players doing j-out sh*t when they’re losing but there’re 2 guys who do that all the time - this guy (he exclusively plays in the most meta jets, can only abuse MP and always j-out when losing) and the Gripen guy (can’t remember his nickname but he has a billion games in the Gripen, haven’t seen him for a while in sim though)
@@СергейНикольский-я2ц I've fought against him before and he's better than most random EC players. But he's also the kind of guy that gets frustrated quickly when he's not winning and leaves the match.
@ well yeah, by saying “he’s not good in DF in jets” I meant he’s not VERY good at it or not as strong as let say konorRF or you but he’s 100% better than most of sim players
@@squishface80085 Interesting, I'm squadron buds with this guy and in the past 5 months I have known him he has done this twice, bith times he has thought about it hours later and will bring it up multiple times in our VC's often in regret about his actions. Real nice guy from my experience.
I’ve tested it in game and pulled the stats from the files, the Rafale is the best dogfighter at top tier right now, the Eurofighter isn’t even 2nd actually, that goes to the gripen still
@@brooklyn4k759 This is first reply I have seen. Statshark is not accurate when it comes to triangle flight models and the bleed rates are also not accurate. I know because I have manually checked them multiple times. It's getting better but it has its shortcomings.
Other reason EF isnt game breaking is both BLUEFOR and REDFOR have it and a EF paired with skilled F15 player will aways have advantage over a EF paired with a skilled Su27SM
How do I fix hud on British typhoon the hms doesn't pop up unless I use hmd radar or prime an ir missile and I can't see my radar locks or tws on hud unless I prime a missile
@@ToranagaWhitehorn I have no idea. I am on PC and it just works. You might look in options or controls for "HMD" and see if there is an option that turns it off/on at start of match.
The comparison of aircraft for the game shouldn't be limited to how the in-game flight model compares to the real world aircraft, but also do differences in performance for in-game aircraft correlate to real world differences for those aircraft. It's tolerable to have planes with slightly exaggerated performance in the game to make them feel more lively, if they overperform equally across the board. i.e. if one aircraft in game has 20% faster acceleration than their real world counterpart, they should all have 20% faster acceleration and so on. Just make sure that one aircraft doesn't get to benefit from 20% faster acceleration while others don't, or even worse, have lower performance in game.
Scorpion was tested on F3R, its most likely staying. AdA F3Rs never had HMDs but france tested scorpion on them. IMHO, 15E is still the best amraam slinger, you get 2 more, similar altitude kinematics to typhoon and actually good radar. T
@@honzavasicek That is good to know. I was reading that there was some other French HMD system that was used on Rafale but I don't keep up to date on exactly what block is what.
@@squishface80085 There was scorpion, i think something else and then india bought other one for their F3Rs, our F3R is closer to indian and indian is pretty much F4 in almost everything. Its typical mix of balance decisions. If we had correctly performing Mica and AESA, it would be probably fine without 8 Micas and even HMD as it would be BVR monster. But gaijin decided to slash off 37% of its range and kill its drag and whole kinematics so we ended up with ahistorical 8 for AdA and HMD that was only tested. Atleast late F3Rs can actually mount outer pylons for micas, france just never bought them but these jets were marketed with 8 missile capability.
now that Nato nations have planes arguably better than russia in the game, and w/ even better ones (f18) on the horizon, i wonder what gaijin will cook up to balance the meta what kind of wild and whacky planes will Russia get?
@@Space_Reptile Su-30SM is probably the next thing. And with the Flanker flight model change...it might be worthwhile. There is also the possibility that Flanker flight model continues to improve because even in the current state it's not exactly accurate.
I’ve been holding off playing until it’s patched, it’s not fun having a plane fly at me locking and shooting a missile at me 20km away yet my radar scans 3 times and can’t pick up the plane flying straight towards me or the missile shot so I can’t even shoot it down. Crazy the tornado f.3 has a better radar
@@squishface80085 something they should of fixed, I only get an hour or 2 every now and then to play so I’m not the best of player so it’s alot harder to play around
F-22A: "im a proper stealth fighter, cmon Felon, im gonna kick your ass"
Su-57: *activates the Blind hunt*
3:00 hehe, you can feel his anger and despair before ejection. Being outplayed/outsmarted is definitely one of his insecurities
What about him forcing his enemy to die or eject is him being “outplayed/outsmarted”🤣
@Lmoneh121 he talked about squishfaces opponent
@Lmoneh121
I think he is talking about the guy that ejected from his plane.
I'm insecure abt my dumb plays but i try my best to stay alive cause i know i would have fun trying to gun a enemy giving a challenge
Im insecure, someone love me and show hole
I'm seein a number of hate comments towards the pilot from the first dogfight in this vid, if you dont know the guy I understand your anger but this dude is one of the chillest most softspoken guys out there and it just so happens that a moment of frustration is the only thing that the viewers here are able to see. It is exceedingly rare to ever find him like this. We have all been frustrated like this before so I hope you guys can understand.
yeah he's a friend of mine we flew quite a lot together and I have never seen him do j'out's or airfield camping stuff (he specifically warns people in chat to not do these stuff). and as you mentioned, he's the chillest guy I have ever seen in war thunder
same airframe rate fights are always funny
eurofighter is terrifying its like fighting a spaceship
Don't worry it will get nerfed if the freeaboos cry hard enough.
@@Gurubashy to be honest, the devs are aware that it's still slightly underperforming
@@specc_s1452 being aware means nothing for them. The freeaboos have them by the balls. They will do as the freeaboos say since most of the money comes from them. They're the ones that will spend x amount of $ to research a plane without even playing.
God i have been waiting long for gaijin to add the german equalizer, nothing have I needed more than ever in such a moment. My tt german setup is done and I shall rest in 70% winrates in grb once again. Germany stronk again 🥹
Ehh if only the HUD and HMD worked as well as they do on track IR in VR.... friggin' GJ
3:00 The fabled "104-0" (dcks sucked) in action
Guarantee spitfyrelegend goes back and tells everyone he won that fight, and i'd bet more money they glazed him
completely unrelated, idk if I'm the only one annoyed by the super bright HMD but there is a brightness bind now
i'd never survive without squish vids frl
10:59 a plane that will make F15s think twice before climbing to the ISS altitude and spawncamp airfields
the flight model is really similar to what it is and what it can do IRL, you just need to see IRL demonstration of it, the istantanius turns is a little too much but it isn't that far off, you should even be able to split the engines to do some cools things in it
@@parapat9957
The IRL one is not able to do backflips inside of its own axis and is not exceptional at low-speed fighting. Airbus made the AMK for it to remedy it.
IRL it has an AoA limit of around 25 degrees similar to an F-16. In game it is set to 29 degrees on damping and can safely do 50 in manual.
@@squishface80085 considering both EF and f16 flight models 25 degrees for both doesn't seem realistic, the f16 design was good for the time but it's old, the best they could get with it was transforming it in a delta wing with the f16x, it's a well known that delta wings can pull way more even considering that with that the EF has almost 2 times if not more wing area to help it turn, if you put in modern avionics, big canards with a great distance from the center of the plane, composite materials and all the thrust the 25 degrees is hevily limited IRL, it could probably pull from 30 to 35s without limitations if you compare the 2 aircrafts.
the this is WT we are talking about, the pilots here can pull some more AOA than in IRL so I can see why it casn pull it off, even with how mutch I love the EF 50 degrees are still a little BS, I could understand even 40 but 50, still nice video
ah yes , show me the vid where it does back flips like tvc flanker irl
@@hemendraravi4787 as said the backflips are overexagerated, if you want to see good demonstration look up Italian EFs for it, they are the ones who push it a little more, there are countless times where the plane basically goes sideways,they are electronically limited and you don't really want to play like that with 120 milions
It's crazy because it doean't have an aoa limiter
I like your commentary and glad to find a sim content creator. What kind of set up do you use?
I believe he made a video a few days ago
@@renniksboi6001
I'm using VKB gunfighter stick, x56 throttle, and Logitech pedals.
3 days after release I saw at least 3 messages saying the Eurofighter is “bad”
What this means I have zero idea
full real controls eurofighter on Manual SAS is so violent with the backflips but if you can control it, holy shit. I found the best way is being very sparse with pitch input and pre-emptively catching it with lots of negative pitch when it starts to flip over.
honestly if it weren't for the F-16A Blk10s ratefight ability, or the J-10As lowspeed fm I'd say there's nothing better than the typhoon right now
i play alot of customs with friends and dogfighted f16s, f15s, mirages, jf17s, flankers, and I havent lost once. I am not a good dogfighter, the eurofighter is just that good. will say the rafale is scary tho
Greatest jet of all time chat
No?
Me and my f16c are doing just fine . 😂 u got a point tho.... most people rely too much on plane and not skill.
2:59 oh, I know this guy. Firstly he’s not good in DF in jets and secondly this little pos does it all the time. Tbh I rarely see players doing j-out sh*t when they’re losing but there’re 2 guys who do that all the time - this guy (he exclusively plays in the most meta jets, can only abuse MP and always j-out when losing) and the Gripen guy (can’t remember his nickname but he has a billion games in the Gripen, haven’t seen him for a while in sim though)
@@СергейНикольский-я2ц
I've fought against him before and he's better than most random EC players. But he's also the kind of guy that gets frustrated quickly when he's not winning and leaves the match.
@ well yeah, by saying “he’s not good in DF in jets” I meant he’s not VERY good at it or not as strong as let say konorRF or you but he’s 100% better than most of sim players
@@squishface80085 Interesting, I'm squadron buds with this guy and in the past 5 months I have known him he has done this twice, bith times he has thought about it hours later and will bring it up multiple times in our VC's often in regret about his actions. Real nice guy from my experience.
@@dnfluffles772spit bro, get off the alt.
@@thesenate8965 Just seen the OP here actually lying with a straight face, I would need actual vid evidence of him "doing it all the time".
I’ve tested it in game and pulled the stats from the files, the Rafale is the best dogfighter at top tier right now, the Eurofighter isn’t even 2nd actually, that goes to the gripen still
@@brooklyn4k759
How did you pull stats from the files and how did that lead you to the conclusion that Rafale is the best dogfighter in the game?
@ idk if my replies are being sent but they end up getting deleted but regardless statshark is always accurate about flight model changes
@@brooklyn4k759
This is first reply I have seen.
Statshark is not accurate when it comes to triangle flight models and the bleed rates are also not accurate. I know because I have manually checked them multiple times. It's getting better but it has its shortcomings.
Other reason EF isnt game breaking is both BLUEFOR and REDFOR have it and a EF paired with skilled F15 player will aways have advantage over a EF paired with a skilled Su27SM
How do I fix hud on British typhoon the hms doesn't pop up unless I use hmd radar or prime an ir missile and I can't see my radar locks or tws on hud unless I prime a missile
@@ToranagaWhitehorn
I have no idea. I am on PC and it just works.
You might look in options or controls for "HMD" and see if there is an option that turns it off/on at start of match.
Is it just an Xbox problem maybe
I fixed the hmd I must have fat fingered the button but how to fix the radar not displaying on the hud or hmd
Holy shit… spit_flyer is a crazy callback. Used to watch his air rb vids all the time back in the day
Holy shit the J-out mf made me angry
@@anthonyrivera1727
I thought it was funny because it just makes the outcome even more sad.
Which ever side get French wins
My hmd isn't working......it dosent show friendlies or enemies. Why is yours working? 😅
@@Arnkingable
Are you on VR? I think it's still not working in VR or on console.
The comparison of aircraft for the game shouldn't be limited to how the in-game flight model compares to the real world aircraft, but also do differences in performance for in-game aircraft correlate to real world differences for those aircraft. It's tolerable to have planes with slightly exaggerated performance in the game to make them feel more lively, if they overperform equally across the board.
i.e. if one aircraft in game has 20% faster acceleration than their real world counterpart, they should all have 20% faster acceleration and so on. Just make sure that one aircraft doesn't get to benefit from 20% faster acceleration while others don't, or even worse, have lower performance in game.
@@grimmig13
I'm pretty sure I cover my thoughts on WarThunder flight models in the last Eurofighter video I posted.
But both comparisons are valid.
yeahhhh 25% faster climb might be slightltttttly more than a little overperforming
Scorpion was tested on F3R, its most likely staying. AdA F3Rs never had HMDs but france tested scorpion on them.
IMHO, 15E is still the best amraam slinger, you get 2 more, similar altitude kinematics to typhoon and actually good radar. T
@@honzavasicek
That is good to know. I was reading that there was some other French HMD system that was used on Rafale but I don't keep up to date on exactly what block is what.
@@squishface80085 There was scorpion, i think something else and then india bought other one for their F3Rs, our F3R is closer to indian and indian is pretty much F4 in almost everything. Its typical mix of balance decisions. If we had correctly performing Mica and AESA, it would be probably fine without 8 Micas and even HMD as it would be BVR monster.
But gaijin decided to slash off 37% of its range and kill its drag and whole kinematics so we ended up with ahistorical 8 for AdA and HMD that was only tested.
Atleast late F3Rs can actually mount outer pylons for micas, france just never bought them but these jets were marketed with 8 missile capability.
Open the borders!!!
now that Nato nations have planes arguably better than russia in the game, and w/ even better ones (f18) on the horizon, i wonder what gaijin will cook up to balance the meta
what kind of wild and whacky planes will Russia get?
@@Space_Reptile
Su-30SM is probably the next thing. And with the Flanker flight model change...it might be worthwhile.
There is also the possibility that Flanker flight model continues to improve because even in the current state it's not exactly accurate.
F-18 is mid
This plane is still so bugged its insane, they gotta fix this shit
I’ve been holding off playing until it’s patched, it’s not fun having a plane fly at me locking and shooting a missile at me 20km away yet my radar scans 3 times and can’t pick up the plane flying straight towards me or the missile shot so I can’t even shoot it down. Crazy the tornado f.3 has a better radar
@@peterjamesluck
This has just been the default USSR experience for the past year. But also doing it while outnumbered 2:1.
@@squishface80085 something they should of fixed, I only get an hour or 2 every now and then to play so I’m not the best of player so it’s alot harder to play around
why would it be blue side suffer? they also have it
@TheChickenJ
Well...the people on blue side that have it are British wankers and that is kind of an L.
Wah wah boo hoo. This community is the worst when it comes to complaining about a video game.
Brother if you don't like the video you can just not watch?
play the su27sm against eft you will hate the game lol