In addition, for several years in the 1950s, the Indianapolis 500 counted in the F1 championship points count, which put the Epperly/Watson/Kurtis chassis, Offy engine, roadsters in the win column.
I love how Lotus and McLaren surpassing Ferrari is immediately followed by a Ferrari revival, almost as if they are kicked into action by their records being beaten
Some racing historians contends that ole Enzo's obsession with sports cars racing series, in the mid-60s into the 1970s, really retarded the progress of the Ferrari F1 program during those years. It's been said that once the Ferrari team said _Arrivederci!_ to sports car racing, that the team focused on F1 racing and got back to its winning ways.
@@bloqk16 agreed. That was definitely holding Ferrari back in 1965-1974. The slumps in the 1984-1998 and 2009-2021, however, can't be explained so easily...
what's even more crazy is that even though Ferrari has the most race wins of any team that they don't have the highest race win to race entry percentage wins though
@@fkez0510 no, it's the exact same team as Renault was 2 years ago, the only thing that's changed is the name and the livery. Rebranding doesn't count as a different team. McLaren has had many different names over the years but are all still counted under "McLaren"
One aspect that skews the number count: The quantity of F1 races there were from the 1950s through the 1970s when compared to the amount of races per season from the 1980s to present. In 1959: Nine races, counting the Indy 500 1969: 11 races 1979: 15 races 1989: 16 races 2009: 17 races 2019: 21 races The unreliability of the F1 cars from the 1950s through the '70s downplayed the dominance factor for any single team; where any of the top-tiered teams would be extremely lucky to win half the races in any given season; unlike the era from the 1980s to present, where a dominant team could account for 75 percent, or higher, season victories.
Great video, but I have one small complaint: Old Lotus and Lotus F1 (which raced from 2012 to 2015) are completely separate teams, so their wins shouldn't be counted together.
@@MKF1_official Current Mercedes and Alfa Romeo actually count as the same constructor they were previously, while "Lotus F1 Team" and "Team Lotus" are different, being the first one more related to Renault than Lotus
@@MKF1_official It's not actually that subjective, it's a matter of brand names and properties: for example, Lotus F1 Team formerly was "Lotus Renault GP" in 2011, therefore it still counted as the same Renault that started its F1 path in the 70's, while however being part of "Group Lotus"; from 2012 to 2015 the name Renault disappeared and a new constructor, part of the large Group Lotus but different from the old "Team Lotus", has born
@@MKF1_official The fact about Alfa Romeo and Sauber is that the latter disappeared completely as a name since 2019; while in the past BMW and Sauber created a new constructor sharing their names, the same did not happen in 2018 when the name "Alfa Romeo" appeared along Sauber, since in that case Alfa Romeo was just the title sponsor
1st victory for Benetton was also 1st victory for Gerhard Berger (1986). Last victory for Benetton was also the last victory for Gerhard Berger (1997).
i just wanna point out Jim Clark whom beside his f1 career also raced in indycar, cortina racing and a whole lot of other thing and always with lotus, he raced twice as much as any other f1 driver of his time, in one year he raced about 60 time, he raced in major racing event every single week of the year...
I saw that Senna's last win was the win that made Mc laren overtake Ferrari make them the team with the most wins in F1. RIP AYRTON SENNA 1960-1994 For me Senna is the greatest of all time
Yeah, I thought about that, but i decided if the name change it is a new team... Since if you would like to consider all the name changed/buy outs/etc. it becomes a real mess...
@@MKF1_official A team properly changing it's ownership should count as new entry on the list here. So Tyrell to Honda, Honda to Brawn, Brawn to Mercedes... all new entries. But Toro Rosso to AlphaTauri or Renault to Alpine should be the same because they still have the same owners, same team bosses, same personnel... literally only the name changed.
@@MKF1_official changing total management/ head / leadership should be new but in this case it just Renault wants to increase popularity of their sports car market . So it's the same team.
Not really, they missed the first race, but from that point they were involved in almost all races. In 1950 simply Alfa Romeo was superior car to all others
Ferrari is the only manufacturer who builds the whole car, chassis and power train. As well as appearing in every season. It also shows how good Lotus was, finishing in 5th place, who only competed for 27 years.
I only have one question is it fair to count the lotus and mercedes victories of the modern years in the total sum since both are teams that had been bought. like lotus that was renault and earlier benetton. or mercedes which was brawn and earlier honda
Make another one just like this but instead have it so you dont have 2 different teams when they just Change names for example honda brawn and merc or lotus Renault and alpine etc
all well and good but how many of these drivers have been flattered by an Adrian Newey designed car? I mean the guy's got 25 championships to his name! TWENTYFIVE!!! I'm not sure if Hamilton or Schumacher ever drove one of his designs but they certainly seem to flatter lesser drivers
This is a statistic that hardly tells any story. The only ones interested in these numbers are Ferrari fans. Understandably. Number of race wins per start would give a lot more real info to all the other fans.
Only problem with this sort of statistics is if someone is doing well now that’s 20 wins, but absolutely dominating in the 50s is like 5
In addition, for several years in the 1950s, the Indianapolis 500 counted in the F1 championship points count, which put the Epperly/Watson/Kurtis chassis, Offy engine, roadsters in the win column.
@@bloqk16 different tracks aren't a problem, but yeah it's weird that that counted...
Just a victory in the 50-60 was much more than today
Basically no one did well since 2014 but Mercedes
Yeah, for comparison reasons you would always have to use percentages.
I love how Lotus and McLaren surpassing Ferrari is immediately followed by a Ferrari revival, almost as if they are kicked into action by their records being beaten
Some racing historians contends that ole Enzo's obsession with sports cars racing series, in the mid-60s into the 1970s, really retarded the progress of the Ferrari F1 program during those years. It's been said that once the Ferrari team said _Arrivederci!_ to sports car racing, that the team focused on F1 racing and got back to its winning ways.
@@bloqk16 agreed. That was definitely holding Ferrari back in 1965-1974.
The slumps in the 1984-1998 and 2009-2021, however, can't be explained so easily...
@@elliotcrossan6290 Thanks for updating me about the later slumps with Ferrari, as I draw a near blank with F1 after the 1974 season.
I have also heard that Ferrari need a strong/determined driver to push them. Lauda and Schumacher both got results from Ferrari.
what's even more crazy is that even though Ferrari has the most race wins of any team that they don't have the highest race win to race entry percentage wins though
Esteban Ocone's victory would have counted more in Renault's prize list because alpine is Renault
No, it goes under the team name which is Alpine
Alpine is a sub brand of Renault but it would still count towards Alpine
@@fkez0510 no, it's the exact same team as Renault was 2 years ago, the only thing that's changed is the name and the livery. Rebranding doesn't count as a different team. McLaren has had many different names over the years but are all still counted under "McLaren"
@@fkez0510 Alpine is more renault than the lotus f1 team yet the latter still got its win to the original name.
Bro Mercedes is brawn and brawn is honda
@@biggusdickus6132 yes
The occasional Ricciardo face is hilarious for some reasons
One aspect that skews the number count: The quantity of F1 races there were from the 1950s through the 1970s when compared to the amount of races per season from the 1980s to present.
In 1959: Nine races, counting the Indy 500
1969: 11 races
1979: 15 races
1989: 16 races
2009: 17 races
2019: 21 races
The unreliability of the F1 cars from the 1950s through the '70s downplayed the dominance factor for any single team; where any of the top-tiered teams would be extremely lucky to win half the races in any given season; unlike the era from the 1980s to present, where a dominant team could account for 75 percent, or higher, season victories.
3:36 pretty sure you meant first win for Benetton, but that's alright, great video
Great video, but I have one small complaint:
Old Lotus and Lotus F1 (which raced from 2012 to 2015) are completely separate teams, so their wins shouldn't be counted together.
Yeah, I know but to be honest you could claim same for Mercedes or Alfa Romeo (if they win finally something)
@@MKF1_official Current Mercedes and Alfa Romeo actually count as the same constructor they were previously, while "Lotus F1 Team" and "Team Lotus" are different, being the first one more related to Renault than Lotus
Current Alfa Romeo is essentially Sauber, so it all depends how you want to count that
@@MKF1_official It's not actually that subjective, it's a matter of brand names and properties: for example, Lotus F1 Team formerly was "Lotus Renault GP" in 2011, therefore it still counted as the same Renault that started its F1 path in the 70's, while however being part of "Group Lotus"; from 2012 to 2015 the name Renault disappeared and a new constructor, part of the large Group Lotus but different from the old "Team Lotus", has born
@@MKF1_official The fact about Alfa Romeo and Sauber is that the latter disappeared completely as a name since 2019; while in the past BMW and Sauber created a new constructor sharing their names, the same did not happen in 2018 when the name "Alfa Romeo" appeared along Sauber, since in that case Alfa Romeo was just the title sponsor
1st victory for Benetton was also 1st victory for Gerhard Berger (1986).
Last victory for Benetton was also the last victory for Gerhard Berger (1997).
AMAZING visualisation, thx you. But this should be updated every year ;-)
7:26 Mercedes: "gas, gas, gas..."
2:29 RIP Ronnie Peterson. The best swedish F1 driver of all time
You the best, thanks, was waiting for this one. :)
It was demanded so here it is :)
i just wanna point out Jim Clark whom beside his f1 career also raced in indycar, cortina racing and a whole lot of other thing and always with lotus, he raced twice as much as any other f1 driver of his time, in one year he raced about 60 time, he raced in major racing event every single week of the year...
I saw that Senna's last win was the win that made Mc laren overtake Ferrari make them the team with the most wins in F1.
RIP AYRTON SENNA
1960-1994
For me Senna is the greatest of all time
for you ok
@@kimjancok He is. Fact.
SENNA 🐐 No doubt about it!
Senna is overhyped stop pretending he's the greatest
@@michelangelofantin2714 🐐
It would have been great to grey out teams has they weren't competing, to better distinguish bad luck periods from retirements.
Agreed
Please, 2009 F1 Season but current point system
Have you made a video of the constructors championship from 1950-2021?
Not yet :) are interested in that one? :)
Ye
Ok, will do :) look out for that :)
+2 on ferrari now :p
i think ocon win should count for renault.
Yeah, I thought about that, but i decided if the name change it is a new team... Since if you would like to consider all the name changed/buy outs/etc. it becomes a real mess...
@@MKF1_official A team properly changing it's ownership should count as new entry on the list here. So Tyrell to Honda, Honda to Brawn, Brawn to Mercedes... all new entries. But Toro Rosso to AlphaTauri or Renault to Alpine should be the same because they still have the same owners, same team bosses, same personnel... literally only the name changed.
@@MKF1_official changing total management/ head / leadership should be new but in this case it just Renault wants to increase popularity of their sports car market . So it's the same team.
Your a great RUclipsr
Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoy the content :)
Sooooo... Lotus and McLaren are the only temas to have more wins than Ferrari at some point?
In the beginning also Alfa Romeo :) but after that - yes
@@MKF1_official Well yes, but Ferrari technically wasn't a thing in the first Championship if I'm not wrong
Not really, they missed the first race, but from that point they were involved in almost all races. In 1950 simply Alfa Romeo was superior car to all others
Well, time to watch that Ferrari counter shoot up again I guess
imagone Alpha Romoe getting their first win after 50 years
*ALFA
Never heard of "Alpha Romoe". I only know Alfa Romeo and Alpha Tauri.
Sauber not alfa romeo
Alfa romeo*
FERRARI IS F1
hey do you count Gasly's win as part of Torro Rosso or Alphatauri? anyway great video
Hi, it is counted under AlphaTauri
Alphatauri = Toro Rosso = Minardi
😱
@@gonnaleaveamark =RedBull
Red Bull = Jaguar = Stewart!
Max drives for Red Bull, and his father once drove for Stewart!
@@haggerz84 Oh yeah, it's coming together...
Ferrari is the only manufacturer who builds the whole car, chassis and power train. As well as appearing in every season.
It also shows how good Lotus was, finishing in 5th place, who only competed for 27 years.
But from 2026 Red Bull Racing will become the second team to build the whole car including the Engine.
Mercedes
@@monochromeherpestes8921 I think if you check they haven’t as long as Ferrari
Win percentage might be a fun one to watch, also.
For such a recent team, Red Bull already 6th and probably will be top 5 by the end of next season, it's truly impressive.
Merc are in the top 3 after 11 years such an outstanding team
@@mckenziecarruthers6637 wdym?
@@guilhermemesquita3979 mercedes
I don’t think so, not this season
Top 5 if they don't continue to DNF 2/3 races
LULW
2022 - 2023 wins, Mercedes 1, Ferrari 5 and Red Bull 34 (with 4 races still to go)
mercedes : gas gas gas
Im gonna step on the gas
I just hope 2022 can have more different teams to get the win
:(
Ocon's one should be carried on Renault or make Renault to alpine in Ocons win. It's like how Kia and Hyundai are same company.
You can say what you want but everytime mercedes entered the F1 they were a top tier team.
Brawn in the top 20 with only 1 season is also impressive...
I only have one question is it fair to count the lotus and mercedes victories of the modern years in the total sum since both are teams that had been bought.
like lotus that was renault and earlier benetton.
or mercedes which was brawn and earlier honda
And then we wonder how F1 got boring. Look at the variety before the Mercedes dominance. Even the Schumacher times had more variety
It's down their plan to supply half the grid with inferior engines.
Probably a weird request, but could you do this but normalize the number of races per season?
you had to put this videos live..with comments..
My dads company still make engine parts for Williams I said to him tell the lads to make them better cause we ain’t winning much these days
Hamilton by himself would be 5th here.
Anyone could have done that with that Merc
Make another one just like this but instead have it so you dont have 2 different teams when they just Change names for example honda brawn and merc or lotus Renault and alpine etc
Rip Lotus
Make that 239 for ferrari
240 now
I think we all knew which team would be first
Red Bull are close to beating Lotus, cool
all well and good but how many of these drivers have been flattered by an Adrian Newey designed car?
I mean the guy's got 25 championships to his name!
TWENTYFIVE!!!
I'm not sure if Hamilton or Schumacher ever drove one of his designs but they certainly seem to flatter lesser drivers
Renault was Benetton, Prost than Renault again, and now Alpine
Time to make a new one.
Williams has fucked up so hard throughout the years
crazy how Alfa Romeo didn't get their wins since 1953 (68-69 years)
They retired from F1 altogether, re-entered only recently as a rebrand of Sauber.
This is a statistic that hardly tells any story. The only ones interested in these numbers are Ferrari fans. Understandably.
Number of race wins per start would give a lot more real info to all the other fans.
Question, why doesn't Ocon win count as Renault? They named Alpine to promote the clothing brand, not because the team changed
Alpine is the luxury/performance brand of Renault. Alpha Tauri is the clothing brand of Red Bull.
The team did change... the name
We need an update now. Lol
1950-1958 didn't count of Constructor
One black man out of everyone else in the history of F1. What does the tell you?
It show how boring f1 is these days
This season isn't boring
Lewis didn't win the 2021 Abu Dhabi grand prix
Latest..
Merc after Hamilton joiner 📈📈📈
*mercedes after rules change
Ifa you donta geta caught, itsa nota cheating. (Old Italian proverb)
AUTOMATIC DAS IS UNDETECTABLE AND SAVE LOSER MERC 2022.
What? DAS was not automatic.
MERC USED DAS IN BRAZIL GP 2021 .
CHEATING
You know DAS doesn't even have a speed advantage?
Um no
@@derriethelm1524 lmao prolly doesn’t even know what das is
@@aaryang Dual Axis Steering correct?
@@Shermerhorn yes
Benetton didn’t have their last win in 1985