Thanks for including the Subway-Surface lines in Philadelphia. In the tunnel they share with the Market-Frankford subway, they act as the "local" while the subway is the "express".
We have to give thanks for those lines being in tunnels. When National City Lines took over the Philadelphia Transportation Co. back in the 1950s they (of course!) immediately started ripping out street-running trolleys in favor of GM buses. They couldn't get rid of the subway-surface cars because buses couldn't run in the tunnels, both because there was no way to provide proper ventilation and because clearances are too narrow for non-tracked vehicles. Today the S-S lines are some of the most heavily used of all SEPTA's routes. There's an initiative to replace the existing 1981-vintage Kawasaki cars with low-floor articulateds.
As late as the mid-1950s, Rochester NY (USA) had such a system -- the rolling stock was PCC cars, which ran on their own above-ground tracks (not city streets) in the outer neighborhoods before going into about 1 mile of tunnel to the middle of downtown, as I recall. My mom took me and my kid brother for a day trip to visit the city, and since she knew the system was soon to be abandoned, she made sure for us to get a ride on it. (Mom was a tram enthusiast -- my earliest memory is of a streetcar ride with her in downtown Buffalo, our hometown, during the last month of service in 1950, when I was 2.5 yrs old and she was about 5 months pregnant with my little brother. The old streetcar -- a Peter Witt model in orange livery -- and her swelling tummy were the standout points of the day, evidently!)
The metro in Rotterdam is a metro. The metro drives as light rail/train a lot. It's not a tram. You could have mentioned Den Haag instead. The tram acts like a metro AND train there for a lot of parts. It's an awesome tram network. 👍
In Germany, streetcars and subways operate under the same operating regulations. The so-called Karlsruhe model is the great exception: there, a clever mind has combined railroads and streetcars. The corresponding vehicles also need two approvals
While the streetcar/LRV system was kinda invented in Boston, USA (or Budapest depending on argument), the Germans have perfected the Stadtbahn system. So many networks with a core underground section! Toronto is about to open a large light rail subway in 2022. The Eglinton Crosstown Line (Line 5) will complement the 4 existing subway lines and 11 tram routes.
Mentioning Düsseldorf, where they run a "full size" Stadtbahn, when neighbouring Essen, Bochum and Duisburg run actual streetcars through their tunnels - In Duisburg on the same tracks as the Stadtbahn with different height plattforms... But the Ruhrpott is a tramfans paradise... You can travel the whole length solely by streetcar (with interchanges and even gauge brakes) - roughly 100km one way. And Wuppertal is around the corner, too...
Fun fact about the Volgograd underground tram system: Above ground trams drive right-sided, like normal trams, but underground they drive on the left side. This happens because older trams had the doors only on the right side, so the tunnels coming from above ground cross over before coming to the first underground stations and this cross over happens so smoothly that it's difficult to notice. Note: That is valid only for the old part of the system, as the later extension does not have this cross over. This actually was a problem, since trams with 2 driver-cabins were rare and older trams couldn't do the new route. Fun fact N°2: Also the old underground tram stations were built like metro stations because they were meant to be eventually converted into actual metro stations. This never happened and will likely never happen.
1. SEPTA (Philadelphia, PA) (as seen in the thumbnail) 2. MBTA Green line (Boston, MA) 3. NFTA metrorail (Buffalo, NY) 4. Pittsburgh light rail "T train" (Pittsburgh, PA) 5. New Jersey Transit Light rail "Newark City Subway" (Newark, NJ) 6. Sounder Light rail (Seattle, WA) 7. Metrolink (Los Angeles, CA) 8. St. Louis Metrolink (St. Louis, MO & East St. Louis, IL) 9. Volgograd, Russia That's pretty much all I know. I know most of the light rail/tram systems that act like subway systems in the USA.
San Francisco should get an honorable mention. In downtown which is Market Street, MUNI Metro and BART from Embarcadero to Civic Center. They are in the same stations. Van Ness, Church Street, Castro, Forest Hill are underground stations.
Awesome to see that you have included the Rotterdam subway/lightrail system. I’m a subway/lightrail driver in Rotterdam for the RET, awesome to see man!
I love that you put our trolleys (Philadelphia) in the thumbnail ☺️☺️ but they’ve actually updated the tunnel and it’s redesigned along with our other subway system. And we have 1 trolley that always runs above ground which is the 15. And they share the tunnel from 13th-30th street. 13th is where it makes the loop around so you don’t see it. 😘😘
In 2008 there was Tram Service between Amsterdam and Amstelveen. The tram went on normal street tracks for a while and from one station it changed its 'Avatar'. It used to run at a higher speed like a normal two-car metro train till Amstelveen. The track was also shared with metro train services. I don't know how the tram company and the metro company did the coordination work to run both the services.
From a local, in Rotterdam it's actually the other way around: a metro acting like a tram. It's a Subway system of 5 lines, in which lines A & B are running underground except in eastern-Rotterdam, where they both run as a tram/lightrail. In The Netherlands there is a special term for it, being Sneltram (Fast/Speed-tram if translated to English)
Im from Toronto too & I also notice that 😮 btw isn't that French LRV also from Bombardier? It sounds like its from Bombardier & it would make sense for a French country to have a vehicle based from Quebec.
The reason the Rotterdam metro looks so much like a subway is because it was designed as such but was later upgraded with lightrail style bi-modalism to expand cheaply into the suburbs and re-use heavy rail infrastructure. I'ts more of a metro with level crossings rather than a tram with tunnels.
It's a metro, and I'm glad the light rail parts are a real light rail or train track. The metro would drive very slow if it was different. Line E is awesome, the metro drives as a light rail on high speed (so more like a train) to Den Haag and Hook of Holland
Wonderfully informative you should check out some of Canada's systems, Ottawa's O Train System, Calgary's C Train etc a lot of them use their LRT as a subway or heavy rail system.
@@timosha21 Construction is finally nearing completion and testing is currently taking place on the first phase of the Valley Line in Edmonton. Then we will have a high floor line that runs through the downtown tunnel, and a low floor line running on the surface. A visit to Alberta is definitely worth the time and money to see our light rail systems!
(Edit: Boston and San Francisco covered in the Part 1 video.) Elsewhere: Budapest Metro Line 1: Started as a weird low-floor subway, but since the early 1970s runs what are basically light rail vehicles with very short pantographs.
Philadelphia only uses PCCs on one line, Route 15 which operates primarily on Girard Avenue. Service on all other lines including the two suburban routes (Media and Sharon Hill) has been using Kawasaki cars since the 1980s. The Route 15 cars are technically called PCC-IIs following a major rebuild by Brookville, but are currently mostly OOS due to the need for yet another refurbishment. The Kawasakis are scheduled for replacement with new low-floor articulateds some time near the end of this decade.
@@Poisson4147 Thank you. The Girard Ave PCC's do need another rebuild . The subway/surface light rail cars are similar to Media and Sharon Hill LRVs; Philly cars have a trolley pole, Media and Sharon Hill cars have a pantograph.
@@Poisson4147 Thank you. The rebuilt PCCs on route 15 need to be rebuilt again. Philly subway/surface LRV s and Media/Sharon Hill LRV s are similar except one uses a trolley pole(Philly); the other a pantograph.
@@scottyerkes1867 A second significant difference between the city and suburban K-cars is that the latter are double-ended because Media and Sharon Hill are both stubs. I've read that SEPTA is looking at ordering the new city cars with double ends as well so that existing lines can be extended without building new loops or wyes.
@@Poisson4147 Yes I know the suburban cars are double ended. Many of the city routes were double ended years ago. Unfortunately those routes are buses now. The trolley i rode to/from high school was double ended.
Very interesting list - obviously your subjective choices! I could make an impressive list using only German cities. Dusseldorf/Duisburg, Cologne/Bonn, Essen/Mulheim, Bochum/Gelsenkirchen, Dortmund, Bielefeld, Hanover, Stuttgart, Mannheim/Ludwigshafen and (in the near future) Karlsruhe. Karlsruhe will be truly remarkable as its trams are already famous for the fact that they run way out into the countryside along main line railway tracks.
@@lazrseagull54 I deliberately left out Frankfurt. While I can remember tram type vehicles running on U5, U6 and U7, nowadays all the Frankfurt lines are run by U-bahn type vehicles; even U5 which has a short section of street running.!
Budapest M1 line/ special trainset based on a tram. Same voltage etc. Used to come up overground but now thw whole line just under the road surface. Tram line no. 2 also goes underground for a short section of the line.
I grew up on a system like that in Boston which is a mansion just like Philadelphia is a descendent of a prewar streetcar system The MBTA Green line is a light rail system that still operates through old streetcar tunnels some operate on dedicated right away some on semi dedicated right away and some in mixed traffic also interesting to note that the blue line used to be light rail but was upgraded to heavy rail
Not in Manchester UK where everything is done on the cheap, all our trams are surface and the slightest hint of any problems the whole so called network grinds to a halt with major delays, and on trying to get either to or from work u find yourself getting a taxi.
In Budapest, Hungary we have many public transport vehicle. The BKK ( Budapest Public Transport Company) has buses, trolleybuses, trams, underground (metro). It's not that intresting, but the metro line 4 stops are very modern. BUT, BKK has also ship flight, cogwheel train, HÉV - suburban train (some section of the line under the ground), Budavári sikló ( I don't know in english, 45 degree tram to the top of Gellért mountain), central europe longest tramway line and a historical metro line. It would be a wonderful video.
The future Eglinton crosstown LRT in Toronto Canada line 5 will have a underground subway like portion through the heart of the midtown Toronto from Black Creek Dr and Brentcliffe. The eastern portion will run on the surface in the east end Scarborough, a brief underground portion at Don Mills and Eglinton, Science center station. Coming in 2022
Personally I miss Zurich, Switzerland on this List. There is a underground-section with 3 Stations on the Linies 7 & 9. And since the Tramways in Zurich only have doors on one side of the Vehicle, the Trams drive on the left in the tunnel with central plattforms, while above ground they drive on the right. On one end of the underground-sections there is a simple track-crossing, on the other end, there is a level-free crossing
Εξαιρετικά όλα! Προσωπικά θεωρώ τα μετρικά laight rails λίγο καλύτερα επειδή καταλαμβάνουν στενότερη ζώνη πλάτους στο οδόστρωμα. Όμως είναι πολύ ωραία να εξυπηρετείς και υπογείως και επιγείως αναλόγως της διαμόρφωσης της αστικής διάπλασης του κέντρου μιας πόλης. Επίσης η "διαλειτουργικότητα" δηλαδή το να μπορεί το τραμ / laight rail να χρησιμοποιεί το δίκτυο μετρό ή σιδηροδρόμου δίνει εξαιρετική "κλαδικότητα" και επιλογές στην αστική και προαστιακή μετακίνηση. Εύγε!
You should mention Cologne-Bonn, Essen-Mülheim-Bochum-Gelsenkirchen, Frankfurt/Main, Stuttgart, Bielefeld, Hannover, Strasbourg, Nice, Marseille, Wien (Vienna), Madrid.
Noticeable that there doesn't seem to be anything in the UK although London pioneered Underground railways and many British towns and cities had trams. Only a few larger cities now have modern tramways - there seems to be a prejudice against them here.
Nb/ps.. I think, in Oslo they do the same bay yousing the same trace. But I am not cure they do it in Helsinki, Finland. You can see it on "the taffu" tram and metro driver him self.
Rotterdam is the other way around. That is a full metro with 3rd rail where lateron extensions were made where it travels at street level with a pantograph. A more suiting example in The Netherlands would have been the Regiocitadis trams in The Hague which travels in tunnels in the city, at streetlevel, but seperate grade in Zoetermeer, which corresponds more with your title as it is a tram.
The Los Angeles Metro light rail system opened an additional line and reconfigured 3 other lines resulting in several new additional underground stations as of June 2023. It now has the longest light rail line in the world.
The Nanhai tram line 1in Foshan, China. With 4 stations underground equipped with platform doors. It doesn’t share its rail with other transportation, just like metro.
Of all the systems, they are the most interesting in Eastern Europe. I have a suggestion that you could do separate sections about public transport systems in a given country. For example, in Poland or the Czech Republic or other countries. I know maybe a stupid idea but interesting. If you were interested in Polish I could help
Tim, was it a problem videoing in Volgograd metro-tram? I heard staff there (and only there) is extremely paranoid of people with cameras, for whatever reason.
Nobody wants to deal with you when they find out you "can't" speak Russian haha. Actually there is another city where I filmed in Russia where I encountered some rude babushkas when it came to filming the tram!
@@timosha21 Babushkas are not a problem. The real problem are bored security guards and more rarely other staff who thinks they can make up laws on the fly! Even though on most objects in Russia it is perfectly legal to take pictures and film. Most of the time they are just annoying though, it is rare when it escalates to the police.
The Brussels network is a bit complicated to "qualify". It's a mix between regular tramways, premetro, half-premetro, chrono-lines, express-lines... Here's a better picture : - Lines 3, 4, 7 are premetro + chrono (almost entirely on separate right-of-way, served by long low-floor tramways only). - Lines 25 and 51 are premetro (each uses a portion of the premetro network, but above ground can encounter trafic) - Line 9 is chrono, and uses only one underground station - Line 19 is regular tramway and uses only one underground station - Lines 39 and 44 used to be express-lines, and use only one underground station To keep it simple, i'd say only 5 lines qualify as premetro, but 3 are going to disappear when the new metro line 3 starts operating in 2023 in the existing premetro tunnel.
I think Antwerp might have fit better instead of Brussels. Some lines are completely above ground, but 8 lines pass through the central premetro area (11,5km and 12 stops currently in use and likely 3 more before 2024).
I'ld say this is actually the common sense approach. You start with streetcars and when they become overcrowded, you need a lot of them close after eachother (you can do this by combining lines). But that becomes very difficult when there are street crossings, so the crowded sections are put underground.
You forgot Portland, San Francisco, Buffalo, and Boston! I'll understand not including Boston because the MBTA seems not to believe in maintenance, but the other three? No excuse!
Never understood why Seattle took out the buses in the tunnel, seemed like a great way to take transit off the surface streets without compromising transit access…
Some of the stations are so dark I would feel uncomfortable (just have Seattle in mind, a positive example from this video is Brüssel or Wolgograd). May be it is very camera and station dependend.
Manchester metrolink tram is a dirty pathetic attempt at a transport system. The carriages are disgusting and over run by yobs. It's slow, it's always unreliable and its expensive. They run the short trams in peak times and the long trams during the afternoon, the information is diabolical and their customer service is non existent.
@@toddhunter3137 alright mate, calm down. I agree that the metrolink isn't the best system (not as bad as the Sheffield super tram tho) but what would Manchester's transport network be without it. It was of course the first modern tram system in the UK. I don't want to start an argument chain btw. Anyway I wasn't saying that the metrolink was the best tram system, I was just saying that it acted like a metro when it went underneath piccadilly
As a person who ride the LA Metro. I will say that it is a not the subway. There are certain stations that are underground not the entire system. I highly disagree with you staying LA Metro is Subway when it is not . We do have our own Subway which is different from Light Rail. I could list each and every station that is underground. First is 7 th and Metro center as you rightly show. 2nd is Soto Street and. 3rd is a Mariachi Plaza. There will be three more new stations when the regional connector is open. They are Historical Broadway and Grand Ave Arts Bunker Hill and Little Tokyo Arts District station
Thanks for including the Subway-Surface lines in Philadelphia. In the tunnel they share with the Market-Frankford subway, they act as the "local" while the subway is the "express".
The Subway Surface Trolley Lines in Philly are great
@@britishcorndog6079 well when they show up ;)
30th to 15th only
We have to give thanks for those lines being in tunnels. When National City Lines took over the Philadelphia Transportation Co. back in the 1950s they (of course!) immediately started ripping out street-running trolleys in favor of GM buses. They couldn't get rid of the subway-surface cars because buses couldn't run in the tunnels, both because there was no way to provide proper ventilation and because clearances are too narrow for non-tracked vehicles.
Today the S-S lines are some of the most heavily used of all SEPTA's routes. There's an initiative to replace the existing 1981-vintage Kawasaki cars with low-floor articulateds.
As late as the mid-1950s, Rochester NY (USA) had such a system -- the rolling stock was PCC cars, which ran on their own above-ground tracks (not city streets) in the outer neighborhoods before going into about 1 mile of tunnel to the middle of downtown, as I recall. My mom took me and my kid brother for a day trip to visit the city, and since she knew the system was soon to be abandoned, she made sure for us to get a ride on it. (Mom was a tram enthusiast -- my earliest memory is of a streetcar ride with her in downtown Buffalo, our hometown, during the last month of service in 1950, when I was 2.5 yrs old and she was about 5 months pregnant with my little brother. The old streetcar -- a Peter Witt model in orange livery -- and her swelling tummy were the standout points of the day, evidently!)
The Lille Tramway Sounds like some older light rail trains we have in Los Angeles!
The metro in Rotterdam is a metro. The metro drives as light rail/train a lot. It's not a tram.
You could have mentioned Den Haag instead. The tram acts like a metro AND train there for a lot of parts. It's an awesome tram network. 👍
Those tramlines that go out to and around Zoetermeer are great. Tram, tram-train, and grade-separated light rail, all-in-one.
The tram/subway in Cologne (Germany) and the t-bane in Oslo (Norway) are very interesting, too.
In Germany, streetcars and subways operate under the same operating regulations. The so-called Karlsruhe model is the great exception: there, a clever mind has combined railroads and streetcars. The corresponding vehicles also need two approvals
where do streetcars and subways operate under the same regulation
@@mr_rocket561 As I said: in Germany
While the streetcar/LRV system was kinda invented in Boston, USA (or Budapest depending on argument), the Germans have perfected the Stadtbahn system. So many networks with a core underground section! Toronto is about to open a large light rail subway in 2022. The Eglinton Crosstown Line (Line 5) will complement the 4 existing subway lines and 11 tram routes.
Hey, Toronto has a few underground streetcar stations as well! There's two at both ends of one line serving Spadina Avenue.
Not to mention the pending opening of the Eglinton Crosstown line in 2022.
Mentioning Düsseldorf, where they run a "full size" Stadtbahn, when neighbouring Essen, Bochum and Duisburg run actual streetcars through their tunnels - In Duisburg on the same tracks as the Stadtbahn with different height plattforms...
But the Ruhrpott is a tramfans paradise... You can travel the whole length solely by streetcar (with interchanges and even gauge brakes) - roughly 100km one way.
And Wuppertal is around the corner, too...
Fun fact about the Volgograd underground tram system: Above ground trams drive right-sided, like normal trams, but underground they drive on the left side. This happens because older trams had the doors only on the right side, so the tunnels coming from above ground cross over before coming to the first underground stations and this cross over happens so smoothly that it's difficult to notice.
Note: That is valid only for the old part of the system, as the later extension does not have this cross over. This actually was a problem, since trams with 2 driver-cabins were rare and older trams couldn't do the new route.
Fun fact N°2: Also the old underground tram stations were built like metro stations because they were meant to be eventually converted into actual metro stations. This never happened and will likely never happen.
The Spanish cities of Malaga and Granada have metro systems that easily qualify for this video.
Sevilla’s metro too
And Alicante
@@danny8371 Madrid Metro Ligero too.
@@markmir6141 yep 3 lines thats called "Metro Ligero" and the acronim is ML1 or ML2 or ML3.
Valencia has 2 lines and the new section are in construction now has an underground section
1. SEPTA (Philadelphia, PA) (as seen in the thumbnail)
2. MBTA Green line (Boston, MA)
3. NFTA metrorail (Buffalo, NY)
4. Pittsburgh light rail "T train" (Pittsburgh, PA)
5. New Jersey Transit Light rail "Newark City Subway" (Newark, NJ)
6. Sounder Light rail (Seattle, WA)
7. Metrolink (Los Angeles, CA)
8. St. Louis Metrolink (St. Louis, MO & East St. Louis, IL)
9. Volgograd, Russia
That's pretty much all I know. I know most of the light rail/tram systems that act like subway systems in the USA.
BTW it's Link light rail, not Sounder light rail
@@analienmango8756 Whoops, thanks for the correction 👍
Metrolink is a commuter rail system.
San Francisco should get an honorable mention. In downtown which is Market Street, MUNI Metro and BART from Embarcadero to Civic Center. They are in the same stations.
Van Ness, Church Street, Castro, Forest Hill are underground stations.
Kriviy Rih you forgot!
Thanks for featuring Volgograd to list, I'm from Volzhskiy (~25km from Volgograd) and we drived at least few times in year to this city
check out my tram videos in volzhsky!!!
I enjoyed very much this video, however Iam still missing Charleroi's (Belgium) funny metro system. Even if it is not so beautiful, I love it so much!
Awesome to see that you have included the Rotterdam subway/lightrail system. I’m a subway/lightrail driver in Rotterdam for the RET, awesome to see man!
Yes the Dutch systems are interesting. I have ridden those in Rotterdam and Amsterdam. Both very good.
I love that you put our trolleys (Philadelphia) in the thumbnail ☺️☺️ but they’ve actually updated the tunnel and it’s redesigned along with our other subway system. And we have 1 trolley that always runs above ground which is the 15. And they share the tunnel from 13th-30th street. 13th is where it makes the loop around so you don’t see it. 😘😘
In 2008 there was Tram Service between Amsterdam and Amstelveen. The tram went on normal street tracks for a while and from one station it changed its 'Avatar'. It used to run at a higher speed like a normal two-car metro train till Amstelveen. The track was also shared with metro train services. I don't know how the tram company and the metro company did the coordination work to run both the services.
It would be good if Canberra, Australia could build an Underground Light Rail line like this.
You forgot Karlsruhe, its a 5 km long Tunnel under the Downtown (Stadtbahntunnel) for Tram-Trains and Light Rails
From a local, in Rotterdam it's actually the other way around: a metro acting like a tram. It's a Subway system of 5 lines, in which lines A & B are running underground except in eastern-Rotterdam, where they both run as a tram/lightrail. In The Netherlands there is a special term for it, being Sneltram (Fast/Speed-tram if translated to English)
_Kyoto_ also has a commuter rail line that runs partially on public roads too I remember
that France LRV sounds like Toronto’s T1s when accelerating and decelerating
Lol, I was just about to say that. 😂
Or the R110A
Im from Toronto too & I also notice that 😮 btw isn't that French LRV also from Bombardier? It sounds like its from Bombardier & it would make sense for a French country to have a vehicle based from Quebec.
The reason the Rotterdam metro looks so much like a subway is because it was designed as such but was later upgraded with lightrail style bi-modalism to expand cheaply into the suburbs and re-use heavy rail infrastructure. I'ts more of a metro with level crossings rather than a tram with tunnels.
It's a metro, and I'm glad the light rail parts are a real light rail or train track. The metro would drive very slow if it was different. Line E is awesome, the metro drives as a light rail on high speed (so more like a train) to Den Haag and Hook of Holland
@@SpotterCrazyperson Yup, I'm a great fan of your videos XD
Fascinating - I hope for more of those integral systems around the world.
Wonderfully informative you should check out some of Canada's systems, Ottawa's O Train System, Calgary's C Train etc a lot of them use their LRT as a subway or heavy rail system.
I really want to visit Calgary and Edmenton for the light rail! Hopefully when some of the covid restrictions are more relaxed.
@@timosha21 Construction is finally nearing completion and testing is currently taking place on the first phase of the Valley Line in Edmonton. Then we will have a high floor line that runs through the downtown tunnel, and a low floor line running on the surface.
A visit to Alberta is definitely worth the time and money to see our light rail systems!
(Edit: Boston and San Francisco covered in the Part 1 video.)
Elsewhere:
Budapest Metro Line 1: Started as a weird low-floor subway, but since the early 1970s runs what are basically light rail vehicles with very short pantographs.
Also lines 7 and 9 of the ZURICH tramway system (Switzerland) could have been recorded. Part of these lines is an underground section with 3 stations.
Check out Stuttgart's Tram/Lightrail System! It's awsome! :)
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Thanx Tim for a great review. Newark NJ used PCCs like Philadelphia. Newark's system uses light rail equipment. Philadelphia still uses PCCs
👍👍😄😄
Philadelphia only uses PCCs on one line, Route 15 which operates primarily on Girard Avenue. Service on all other lines including the two suburban routes (Media and Sharon Hill) has been using Kawasaki cars since the 1980s.
The Route 15 cars are technically called PCC-IIs following a major rebuild by Brookville, but are currently mostly OOS due to the need for yet another refurbishment. The Kawasakis are scheduled for replacement with new low-floor articulateds some time near the end of this decade.
@@Poisson4147 Thank you. The Girard Ave PCC's do need another rebuild . The subway/surface light rail cars are similar to Media and Sharon Hill
LRVs; Philly cars have a trolley pole, Media and Sharon Hill cars have a pantograph.
@@Poisson4147 Thank you. The rebuilt PCCs on route 15 need to be rebuilt again. Philly subway/surface LRV s and Media/Sharon Hill LRV s are similar except one uses a trolley pole(Philly); the other a pantograph.
@@scottyerkes1867 A second significant difference between the city and suburban K-cars is that the latter are double-ended because Media and Sharon Hill are both stubs.
I've read that SEPTA is looking at ordering the new city cars with double ends as well so that existing lines can be extended without building new loops or wyes.
@@Poisson4147 Yes I know the suburban cars are double ended. Many of the city routes were double ended years ago. Unfortunately those routes are buses now. The trolley i rode to/from high school was double ended.
It gave me a fair chuckle how you showed mexico's sysetm and a bucnh of european systems that where nice clean, acessible then.....New Jersey
Very interesting list - obviously your subjective choices! I could make an impressive list using only German cities. Dusseldorf/Duisburg, Cologne/Bonn, Essen/Mulheim, Bochum/Gelsenkirchen, Dortmund, Bielefeld, Hanover, Stuttgart, Mannheim/Ludwigshafen and (in the near future) Karlsruhe. Karlsruhe will be truly remarkable as its trams are already famous for the fact that they run way out into the countryside along main line railway tracks.
How could you forget Frankfurt?
@@lazrseagull54 I deliberately left out Frankfurt. While I can remember tram type vehicles running on U5, U6 and U7, nowadays all the Frankfurt lines are run by U-bahn type vehicles; even U5 which has a short section of street running.!
The metro of Porto (Portugal) is also a tram that crosses bridges with pedestrians and cars.
Woow Guadalajara, México in the top ♥
Budapest M1 line/ special trainset based on a tram. Same voltage etc. Used to come up overground but now thw whole line just under the road surface.
Tram line no. 2 also goes underground for a short section of the line.
I grew up on a system like that in Boston which is a mansion just like Philadelphia is a descendent of a prewar streetcar system The MBTA Green line is a light rail system that still operates through old streetcar tunnels some operate on dedicated right away some on semi dedicated right away and some in mixed traffic also interesting to note that the blue line used to be light rail but was upgraded to heavy rail
Pittsburgh PA has a cool metro-like part on its light rail.
Check out Part I in the description ;)
LA Subway reminds me of GTA5! Nice video Tim
Gta 5 is in LA lol
@@GamerRobYT that game never gets old
@@SOUTHBEATS yeah lol but imo the liberty city subway is better it would be cool if they had more lines
@@GamerRobYT i agree, its bigger and more stations!
as a belgium (from antwerp) i thought it was normal that trams would go underground. but it seems like a lot of places are doing it to.
Not in Manchester UK where everything is done on the cheap, all our trams are surface and the slightest hint of any problems the whole so called network grinds to a halt with major delays, and on trying to get either to or from work u find yourself getting a taxi.
1. Bonn, Germany
2. Cleveland - Blue and Green Lines
3. San Francisco - Muni
4. Toronto - Spadina Line
you mean the spadina streetcar?
In Budapest, Hungary we have many public transport vehicle. The BKK ( Budapest Public Transport Company) has buses, trolleybuses, trams, underground (metro). It's not that intresting, but the metro line 4 stops are very modern. BUT, BKK has also ship flight, cogwheel train, HÉV - suburban train (some section of the line under the ground), Budavári sikló ( I don't know in english, 45 degree tram to the top of Gellért mountain), central europe longest tramway line and a historical metro line.
It would be a wonderful video.
The 45 degree tram up Gellert Hill is call a Funicular Railway in English.
The future Eglinton crosstown LRT in Toronto Canada line 5 will have a underground subway like portion through the heart of the midtown Toronto from Black Creek Dr and Brentcliffe. The eastern portion will run on the surface in the east end Scarborough, a brief underground portion at Don Mills and Eglinton, Science center station. Coming in 2022
Personally I miss Zurich, Switzerland on this List.
There is a underground-section with 3 Stations on the Linies 7 & 9. And since the Tramways in Zurich only have doors on one side of the Vehicle, the Trams drive on the left in the tunnel with central plattforms, while above ground they drive on the right.
On one end of the underground-sections there is a simple track-crossing, on the other end, there is a level-free crossing
Εξαιρετικά όλα! Προσωπικά θεωρώ τα μετρικά laight rails λίγο καλύτερα επειδή καταλαμβάνουν στενότερη ζώνη πλάτους στο οδόστρωμα. Όμως είναι πολύ ωραία να εξυπηρετείς και υπογείως και επιγείως αναλόγως της διαμόρφωσης της αστικής διάπλασης του κέντρου μιας πόλης. Επίσης η "διαλειτουργικότητα" δηλαδή το να μπορεί το τραμ / laight rail να χρησιμοποιεί το δίκτυο μετρό ή σιδηροδρόμου δίνει εξαιρετική "κλαδικότητα" και επιλογές στην αστική και προαστιακή μετακίνηση. Εύγε!
Thank you for the nice Video,
but Linz and Vienna allready have some Underground Tramway Tunnels
You should mention Cologne-Bonn, Essen-Mülheim-Bochum-Gelsenkirchen, Frankfurt/Main, Stuttgart, Bielefeld, Hannover, Strasbourg, Nice, Marseille, Wien (Vienna), Madrid.
And Karlsruhe (starting in December 2021) 😊
Muy buen video mi amigo !!!! Saludos desde Argentina 🙋♂️
Noticeable that there doesn't seem to be anything in the UK although London pioneered Underground railways and many British towns and cities had trams. Only a few larger cities now have modern tramways - there seems to be a prejudice against them here.
Thank you very much from Albertslund Denmark.
Nb/ps.. I think, in Oslo they do the same bay yousing the same trace.
But I am not cure they do it in Helsinki, Finland.
You can see it on "the taffu" tram and metro driver him self.
Rotterdam is the other way around. That is a full metro with 3rd rail where lateron extensions were made where it travels at street level with a pantograph. A more suiting example in The Netherlands would have been the Regiocitadis trams in The Hague which travels in tunnels in the city, at streetlevel, but seperate grade in Zoetermeer, which corresponds more with your title as it is a tram.
Hooray for our Philadelphia trolleys! I love them!
The Los Angeles Metro light rail system opened an additional line and reconfigured 3 other lines resulting in several new additional underground stations as of June 2023. It now has the longest light rail line in the world.
Great video and put together nicely, lots of information too, thank you Timosha21
The sound of that Lille tram is so similar to an rolling stock of Taipei metro!
Ottawa, Canada has lrt that is mostly on surface except with tunnels downtown and cut and cover tunnels east and west.
The Nanhai tram line 1in Foshan, China. With 4 stations underground equipped with platform doors. It doesn’t share its rail with other transportation, just like metro.
Of all the systems, they are the most interesting in Eastern Europe. I have a suggestion that you could do separate sections about public transport systems in a given country. For example, in Poland or the Czech Republic or other countries. I know maybe a stupid idea but interesting. If you were interested in Polish I could help
That is a great idea but I need to visit more than just Katowice and Krakow!
You put Newark on here but not Pittsburgh? (Edit) Nevermind I see you have a Part I to this, don’t know how I missed that!
Yep Part I was pretty popular so I had to make a Part II - plus so many awesome tram/metro systems out there!!!
Very good video!
You should include the Dallas Dart system. a good part of some of the lines is underground
Line 3 in Guadalajara has stations in the 3 downtown municipalities of Guadalajara's metro area, Tlaquepaque, Guadalajara and Zapopan
Very interesting!
The greatest thing about this , that if necessity calls it can easy with the least costs transferred to full underground system .
Very good video! 👍👍🚊🚃🚉
I enjoyed these, do a part 2 and include London’s DLR at Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich station
Check out Part I in the description! There is another Top 10 in that video :D
Manila Light Rail Transit System Line 2 also runs underground from Katipunan-GMA to Marikina. It has one station underground.
I'm surprised u didn't include Buffalo's system in this video, considering 80% of the line is actually subway-style
The trams in Lille kind of sound like the T1 subways in Toronto.
those street cars you can use them for pretty any ways such as underground, off the streets, and even elevated structures.
Tim, was it a problem videoing in Volgograd metro-tram? I heard staff there (and only there) is extremely paranoid of people with cameras, for whatever reason.
Nobody wants to deal with you when they find out you "can't" speak Russian haha. Actually there is another city where I filmed in Russia where I encountered some rude babushkas when it came to filming the tram!
@@timosha21 Babushkas are not a problem. The real problem are bored security guards and more rarely other staff who thinks they can make up laws on the fly! Even though on most objects in Russia it is perfectly legal to take pictures and film. Most of the time they are just annoying though, it is rare when it escalates to the police.
@@mihan2d Lol they did not bother - its the babushka tram conductors or older tram drivers in one particular city :D
Синдром вахтера непобедим
Where is Zurich? It also has a underground tram tunnel with 3 stations
Great...love and like from India 🇮🇳 kolkata
The Brussels network is a bit complicated to "qualify". It's a mix between regular tramways, premetro, half-premetro, chrono-lines, express-lines...
Here's a better picture :
- Lines 3, 4, 7 are premetro + chrono (almost entirely on separate right-of-way, served by long low-floor tramways only).
- Lines 25 and 51 are premetro (each uses a portion of the premetro network, but above ground can encounter trafic)
- Line 9 is chrono, and uses only one underground station
- Line 19 is regular tramway and uses only one underground station
- Lines 39 and 44 used to be express-lines, and use only one underground station
To keep it simple, i'd say only 5 lines qualify as premetro, but 3 are going to disappear when the new metro line 3 starts operating in 2023 in the existing premetro tunnel.
I think Antwerp might have fit better instead of Brussels. Some lines are completely above ground, but 8 lines pass through the central premetro area (11,5km and 12 stops currently in use and likely 3 more before 2024).
Defeats the object of trams: street level accessibility.
I'ld say this is actually the common sense approach.
You start with streetcars and when they become overcrowded, you need a lot of them close after eachother (you can do this by combining lines). But that becomes very difficult when there are street crossings, so the crowded sections are put underground.
Nanhai Tram Line 1 in Foshan, China also looks like a metro line
I would add the beautiful city of Porto, as well
I would rather define the Rotterdam system as a metro acting like a tram, than a tram acting like a metro.
What about Tokyo and Dallas?
Missed NFTA's Metro Rail in Buffalo, NY.
Check out Part I in the description ;)
You forgot Portland, San Francisco, Buffalo, and Boston! I'll understand not including Boston because the MBTA seems not to believe in maintenance, but the other three? No excuse!
Check out the link in the description for the video with more systems ;) ...
Imagine calling Guadalajara Light Train as M E T R O, ugh. TREN LIGERO is our way :^) and much better than any other system in the country.
7:57 those are cheap parking garage gates used as rail gates lol
Never understood why Seattle took out the buses in the tunnel, seemed like a great way to take transit off the surface streets without compromising transit access…
@dirtlotphotography To speed up the trains. More lines are coming, and that means more trains.
Must include the European biggest over million capital BELGRADE with projects like Beovoz or BG Voz.
Some of the stations are so dark I would feel uncomfortable (just have Seattle in mind, a positive example from this video is Brüssel or Wolgograd). May be it is very camera and station dependend.
Manchester also acts like a metro when it calls at Piccadilly low level.
Manchester metrolink tram is a dirty pathetic attempt at a transport system. The carriages are disgusting and over run by yobs. It's slow, it's always unreliable and its expensive. They run the short trams in peak times and the long trams during the afternoon, the information is diabolical and their customer service is non existent.
@@toddhunter3137 alright mate, calm down. I agree that the metrolink isn't the best system (not as bad as the Sheffield super tram tho) but what would Manchester's transport network be without it. It was of course the first modern tram system in the UK. I don't want to start an argument chain btw. Anyway I wasn't saying that the metrolink was the best tram system, I was just saying that it acted like a metro when it went underneath piccadilly
That kind of thing is in Cracow, Poland
The tram in zurich has 3 stations twho are also completely underground
That gray area twixt tram/light rail/metro 🚇.For example what is the Dubai one? I'd go with light rail that resembles a modern tram 🚊.
0:20 sounds like a Toronto Subway T1
Volgograd in Russia, is formerly called Stalingrad.
As a person who ride the LA Metro. I will say that it is a not the subway. There are certain stations that are underground not the entire system. I highly disagree with you staying LA Metro is Subway when it is not . We do have our own Subway which is different from Light Rail. I could list each and every station that is underground. First is 7 th and Metro center as you rightly show. 2nd is Soto Street and. 3rd is a Mariachi Plaza. There will be three more new stations when the regional connector is open. They are Historical Broadway and Grand Ave Arts Bunker Hill and Little Tokyo Arts District station
Tip North American light rail subways are loud
Can I include the Toronto transit Commission underground section between Queens Quay and Union station.
Volgograd is the most beautiful of all of them.
Add there the tram/metro of Granada in Spain!
You forgot Cologne. And Edmonton. And St. Louis
Check the link for the first video on Trams acting like metros ;)
I miss Charleroi in Belgium
6:15 that is a light rail but they are labeled as like U79, U78
you forgot the t6 tram in paris
Grand Theft Auto 5 has one
Metrams?
I’d like to think that they are light metros.