I’m just adding that the square end of the socket is also great for just using it in your hand. We all get the the point where a ratchet feels useless and spin the socket by hand.
It is priced higher than most other ratchet sets but that’s to be expected with Milwaukee products. Your getting some pretty high quality stuff for the price though. If you have it on a pack out stack you can just pop it off and take it to whatever your working on instead of picking a socket then going back 8 times when you get the wrong size
No problem not getting a extra ratchet. Considering I will be adding the long handle and stubby versions. Also at 250 you are getting 4 complete sets of sockets. 2 - 1/4" and 2- 3/8"
You really are not…. You can explain if you would like… but.. as much as I like this set, they are completely underselling this unit, with a premium price
I think I'm going to buy all 3 Milwaukee socket sets. I've been waiting for the Craftsman Fort Worth TX tools but still no word on that, I've waited too long
I chose Milwaukee because their square shape is tougher to lose. Also, they are well labeled. Also they don't blend in with my more traditional shaped sockets
Great mechanic tool set, the packout is ok, overvtime the more tool you clip on the bulkier the packout become, to bad the Milwaukee couldn't design a tool box like the 4 drawer Kobalt tool box small and compact. All tools in one and one tool box to carry. not like the Milwaukee adding packout after packout. I have several Kobalt tool boxes .So I decided to organize the drawer. And put my Milwaukee 1/4 & 3/8 socket set along with my Milwaukee 1/2 socket set as well, along with enough room for my Milwaukee stubby 3/8 impact gun, charger, and battery, in my Kobalt 4 drawer tool box, and I gotta say it fits fine, light and easy to carry all in one. Note, I had 4 different types of Kobalt tool boxes, so I used the empty drawer that Kobalt has in each tool box kit and combine them in one tool box, and installed my Milwaukee tool set in the empty trays. Works Awesome! But hay thats just my opinion, hope Milwaukee can come up with a design like that
The 52” Milwaukee chest only comes with four bumpers. Two L shaped bumpers for the front, and two for the back when they should have included 8-12 L bumpers so the middle section and top would also be protected. Some guys take the back bumpers and drill them into the front at the top so the four included are all in the front. Being hesitant to drill into a nice chest but knowing all along if you own this chest, your more than likely highly skilled, so “Just Do It”. Pack-out retro fitting to the chest or even a multiple chest interlock system along with many more details, are somethings that Milwaukee should take note of.
@@paedahe4975 Understandable, I am a old school mechanic, 52" drawer which I've seen is quite cool, but I am talking about something portable to easily carry when need to do some maintenance on your vehicle. And I think Milwaukee which there mechanic tools are awsome by the way, should make a 4 drawer set up like Kobalt 286pc to make things easier to carry all in one box, instead of putting together packout after packout, then before you know it you got a bulky stack you gotta carry around, but with the Kobalt 4 drawer system, its just one box, you should check it out, the 286pc 4 drawer set. I think that's what Milwaukee should do maybe up grade with a locking mechanism to secure your tools. But hay thats just my opinion.
Looks like a great kit, even as a professional mechanic I can appreciate how complete it is and how it would be to use mobility wise. If the sockets and ratchets are fairly strong I might consider it to add onto my collection. Hmmmm
Great review. I have a Harley that’s starting to get up there in age, and have been looking for a tool kit that I can put in my tour pack that won’t take up a ton of space. Looks like between this, a crescent wrench and a set of Allen keys and a couple screwdriver and I’ll be set for most everything that i could run into while on the road.
Great review!! Was looking for a comparsion to decide between 2 small sets for around $250 or one for $300. Picked up the big set then started thinking maybe I should have just bought 2 seperate ones. Thanx!! Glad I got the big one. The trays from the big set fit into my small packout boxes as well if I just need a specific set..Wish they would have painted the eteching like the impact sockets, I cant see the markings...
I have the 106 piece set and really like it, rides great on the backseat of my truck. I'm waiting for a comparable packout kit with combination wrenches.
Just cant get behind the squared off sockets, i like that it's different. Just in using them they're mainly worse than a round sockets in everyway. I get the rolling away thing, just isn't really a big issue 'round here
It was a hurdle for me to get past the look of the socket, but really thinking it through, I can't think of why to hate it. It's not a size issue, and the square does offer at least a couple of benefits. I really don't know what the drawback is in order to count against them.
What I’m trying to figure out is if you want a completely metric set for on the go, can you take the SAE half out of there and replace it with that 1/2” drive metric set? Will the two interchange? What I’m asking is can I take the 1/2” drive tray and put it in the big packout container, and can I take the SAE 1/4”-3/8” tray and put it in the smaller packout container?
Hey there, I'm just getting started in mechanics, and I was wondering if the 1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 sets from Milwaukee would be all I need for sockets. Are there any skipped sizes? I am tracking that there are 153 total sockets, is that everything you would need?
Both serve two different purposes, for general use Id say a mix of rachets and a m12 stubby for most work, or get a half inch mid torque depends on preference
ruclips.net/video/gdPODQSjgQs/видео.html Adam Savage also suggests Milwaukee socket sets. My only gripe is that at 5:22 you mount it vertically and open it like a door. I HIGHLY doubt they intended this to be opened like that. I see the mount point more as a quick access to store the packout, then use it normally.
I love the Milwaukee ratchet sets but I want All Metric in an a Packout case. 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 almost never do I see an SAE fastener working on cars and I don't want to carry around tools I never will use. looks like so far you can only get only 3/8 in a metric only set in a Packout case.
Looks like a good set, unfortunately I don't know if this will work for mechanics as those sockets have a much wider base compared to other sets. I understand the advantage of it, especially in tight space, but in narrow shallow holes (think spark plugs) I am afraid the base would not fit. I see this being a very good choice for electricians or other trades were clearance is not a huge problem.
The base is not any wider than the rest of the socket. We measured the sockets with our dial calipers. Measuring across the round part of the socket is the exact diameter as from point to point diagonally. Also, we measured the 13mm diameter in the Milwaukee and it was within a few thousandths of an old USA Craftsman 13mm socket. Does that make sense? Thanks for watching.
I love my kit, it lives in my work van and I caught mine on sale for $199. I see some negative opinions, can't satisfy a lot of folks. They will say their favorite flavor is vanilla and argue its the wrong type of vanilla when you bring the option to them.
I cannot get over how much more they are charging for these since you made the video. I only looked at the large set and it is $60 more. Great information I've been looking at these for a while. The Home Depot around me is always out of stock so I've never been able to physically put my hands on them. Look forward to your next video
They go on sale for 50% off al the time. You can order them online when they go on sale again so don't blame HD for being out of stock. Last year they were on sale virtually the entire holiday season and not once did I see them out of stock.
if milwaukee came with the complete socket line i would buy one. if they made a separate 1/4" packout set with complete socket line skipping no sizes, i would buy one. if they had a packout with wrenches, i would buy a set. too bad.
Yeah, you really have to piece them together. I bought the 3/8 set and they do not have the 20mm 3/8 yet there is one for sale on their website. Why is it not part of the 3/8 set?
On the back of the cardboard packaging that comes with the Milwaukee Packout tool set, it says the ratchets are “Made in Taiwan” and the sockets are “Made in China”.
The Rachet lever switch is terrible. The slightest touch activates the lever in the opposite direction. So if your working it tight spaces it will drive you BAT SHIT CRAZY!!!! Other wise the sockets and extensions work great!! Just replace the ratchets
Not a fan of the square back end on the sockets especially the deep sockets. In tight spaces where the socket barely fits the square isn't going to work as well as a round socket. I feel like they are trying to solve a problem that was rarely a actual problem and add functionality of accepting a wrench that would rarely be an advantage.
@@paedahe4975 really how often is that a problem? Maybe you're using a couple of sockets a a time and one is on the ratchet. I'm usually using sockets when I'm working on a vehicle or something else and rolling away isn't a huge problem. I have Milwaukee power tools and they are very good but these sockets in my opinion are not the best design. The reason sockets haven't changed much is that they work well they way they were.
My personal opinion is they were trying to be different than others, in order to standout, and they just tried to solve a problem in the process. Can't blame them for that. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews I'm a car guy I've owned about 100 cars through the years. I've often had to fit a socket in very tight spaces where the socket is rubbing on something around the bolt or nut you are trying to remove or replace. In that situation I think the square part of the socket creates a disadvantage that outweighs any positive advantage it has. Functionality is the most important aspect of a socket and the square part potentially limits that functionality. I don't think thousands of mechanics are going to get rid of their snap on or Mac sockets and buy these. We will see but my money is on that feature eventually going away.
I personally think that if your using non locking extensions, and reaching into the engine, sockets have a way of catching on edges and falling to the floor or into the engine. If your lucky, it will drop to the floor if there is no rock guards underneath. In that case, the square design would leave the socket right where it fell. But the reason it fell is that the square caught an edge on something... it’s a wash. 🤷♂️
@@mpcarlin11 Significant difference in quality between Taiwan and mainland china when it comes to manufacturing. They are not even close. But Milwaukee itself since 2005 is a subsidiary of Techtronic Industries based in Hong Kong.
Not a fan of these ratchets at all. They have considerable anvil/gear deflection when the ratchet isn't perfectly at a 90°. This makes the gearing jump and stick making the socket very hard to turn quickly by hand. The ratchet is also very heavy and not balanced well. The sockets are okay. If you are like me and like to grab and turn the socket to speed things up, the square ends interfere. These sockets do still roll, just not as easy.
1/4" ??? I don't know any Maintenance work that uses 1/4" except maybe electricians. 1/2" & 3/8" ok, but not 1/4"..... waste of good space and dead weight to carry around IMHO.
@@Shoptoolreviews Good point. A lot of those workers buy off the mobile Tool Trucks, so it's another option for them. It would be a convenient set especially for a DIY'er. In that case, the larger set would be the way to go I would think. Another good video, keep'm coming and Tool-On. :)
I’m just adding that the square end of the socket is also great for just using it in your hand. We all get the the point where a ratchet feels useless and spin the socket by hand.
thats why its there! plus you can pull the ratchet off and put an open end on it for tight spots.
1/2 size 3/8 drive sae goes up to 1”, I’ve needed those on a few occasions.
No drawers were harmed in the making of this video
I have the sae set. Love it. It all has a great quality feel and look to it. And it being a pack out set keeps it very organized and accessible
Thanks for sharing!! That's great to hear. Thanks for watching.
Do you think it's a little overpriced? just to get an general price knoladge
It is priced higher than most other ratchet sets but that’s to be expected with Milwaukee products. Your getting some pretty high quality stuff for the price though. If you have it on a pack out stack you can just pop it off and take it to whatever your working on instead of picking a socket then going back 8 times when you get the wrong size
@@johnargumaniz9179 yes, i do have a whole stack . Thank you for the info 🙏🏼
I like the shape of the sockets so they don’t roll away and the etching of the size on them
No problem not getting a extra ratchet. Considering I will be adding the long handle and stubby versions.
Also at 250 you are getting 4 complete sets of sockets. 2 - 1/4" and 2- 3/8"
You really are not…. You can explain if you would like… but.. as much as I like this set, they are completely underselling this unit, with a premium price
What is nice to remember is this packout is basically watertight do on the road guys have weather to fight with
I think I'm going to buy all 3 Milwaukee socket sets. I've been waiting for the Craftsman Fort Worth TX tools but still no word on that, I've waited too long
Hands down the best set in my opinion. If you are a grease monkey it is a must. Totally kicks snap on for the price
I love my Milwaukee socket set! It was a nice upgrade from my 10+ year old (incomplete) Huskey set!
Great to hear. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Can't even spell husky right
I chose Milwaukee because their square shape is tougher to lose. Also, they are well labeled. Also they don't blend in with my more traditional shaped sockets
As always a well done and comprehensive review 👍🏽
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching.
Great mechanic tool set, the packout is ok, overvtime the more tool you clip on the bulkier the packout become, to bad the Milwaukee couldn't design a tool box like the 4 drawer Kobalt tool box small and compact. All tools in one and one tool box to carry. not like the Milwaukee adding packout after packout. I have several Kobalt tool boxes .So I decided to organize the drawer. And put my Milwaukee 1/4 & 3/8 socket set along with my Milwaukee 1/2 socket set as well, along with enough room for my Milwaukee stubby 3/8 impact gun, charger, and battery, in my Kobalt 4 drawer tool box, and I gotta say it fits fine, light and easy to carry all in one. Note, I had 4 different types of Kobalt tool boxes, so I used the empty drawer that Kobalt has in each tool box kit and combine them in one tool box, and installed my Milwaukee tool set in the empty trays. Works Awesome! But hay thats just my opinion, hope Milwaukee can come up with a design like that
The 52” Milwaukee chest only comes with four bumpers. Two L shaped bumpers for the front, and two for the back when they should have included 8-12 L bumpers so the middle section and top would also be protected. Some guys take the back bumpers and drill them into the front at the top so the four included are all in the front. Being hesitant to drill into a nice chest but knowing all along if you own this chest, your more than likely highly skilled, so “Just Do It”. Pack-out retro fitting to the chest or even a multiple chest interlock system along with many more details, are somethings that Milwaukee should take note of.
@@paedahe4975
Understandable, I am a old school mechanic, 52" drawer which I've seen is quite cool, but I am talking about something portable to easily carry when need to do some maintenance on your vehicle. And I think Milwaukee which there mechanic tools are awsome by the way, should make a 4 drawer set up like Kobalt 286pc to make things easier to carry all in one box, instead of putting together packout after packout, then before you know it you got a bulky stack you gotta carry around, but with the Kobalt 4 drawer system, its just one box, you should check it out, the 286pc 4 drawer set. I think that's what Milwaukee should do maybe up grade with a locking mechanism to secure your tools. But hay thats just my opinion.
@@mikey358976 I hear ya. I totally agree.
As a generator mechanic I would have appreciated a set like this on the road
Looks like a great kit, even as a professional mechanic I can appreciate how complete it is and how it would be to use mobility wise.
If the sockets and ratchets are fairly strong I might consider it to add onto my collection. Hmmmm
Wonder if you would be able to buy individual sockets. We all know how the 10mm usually ends up missing
You can
do these inserts fit in the 5 compartment compact pack outs?
Great review. I have a Harley that’s starting to get up there in age, and have been looking for a tool kit that I can put in my tour pack that won’t take up a ton of space. Looks like between this, a crescent wrench and a set of Allen keys and a couple screwdriver and I’ll be set for most everything that i could run into while on the road.
This should be a great kit for that. Sounds like you have a lot of fun. Thanks for watching.
Great review!! Was looking for a comparsion to decide between 2 small sets for around $250 or one for $300. Picked up the big set then started thinking maybe I should have just bought 2 seperate ones. Thanx!! Glad I got the big one. The trays from the big set fit into my small packout boxes as well if I just need a specific set..Wish they would have painted the eteching like the impact sockets, I cant see the markings...
I have the 106 piece set and really like it, rides great on the backseat of my truck. I'm waiting for a comparable packout kit with combination wrenches.
Right on! We agree, they need to incorporate more sets with the PACKOUT. Thanks for watching.
And a vehicle seat base for packout that will strap in like a kids car seat.
Waiting for wrench sets in Packout too. A little harder for them to do since there's more wrench options.
Very detailed review! Thank you💯👏
Is there a way to just replace that bending piece no idea what it's called but It came apart the second time i used it other than that they're great
Think it's called a universal joint
Yes, Milwaukee should replace the broken piece without any issue. Let us know if they don't. Thanks for watching.
Can these be used with an impact drill (not wrench)?
Just cant get behind the squared off sockets, i like that it's different. Just in using them they're mainly worse than a round sockets in everyway. I get the rolling away thing, just isn't really a big issue 'round here
It was a hurdle for me to get past the look of the socket, but really thinking it through, I can't think of why to hate it. It's not a size issue, and the square does offer at least a couple of benefits. I really don't know what the drawback is in order to count against them.
Nice video.... I wish this could've existed 5 years ago.
You and me both!
What I’m trying to figure out is if you want a completely metric set for on the go, can you take the SAE half out of there and replace it with that 1/2” drive metric set? Will the two interchange?
What I’m asking is can I take the 1/2” drive tray and put it in the big packout container, and can I take the SAE 1/4”-3/8” tray and put it in the smaller packout container?
Each of the trays will fit the 48-22-8436 cases. So if you wanted to take just the standard or metric set on a junkyard trip you definitely can.
What is that nut ceiling tool you used?
Shweet stuff. Thanks for showin off. 👍🔧
Any time! Thanks for watching.
Hey there, I'm just getting started in mechanics, and I was wondering if the 1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 sets from Milwaukee would be all I need for sockets. Are there any skipped sizes? I am tracking that there are 153 total sockets, is that everything you would need?
Good review Sir!👍 Any possibility Milwaukee will have a Packout set with their combo and ratcheting wrenches?
would you recommend this set over the milwaukee impact stuff?
Both serve two different purposes, for general use Id say a mix of rachets and a m12 stubby for most work, or get a half inch mid torque depends on preference
I waited til I got a decent deal on the 106 pc. Paid 219 I think.
ruclips.net/video/gdPODQSjgQs/видео.html Adam Savage also suggests Milwaukee socket sets. My only gripe is that at 5:22 you mount it vertically and open it like a door. I HIGHLY doubt they intended this to be opened like that. I see the mount point more as a quick access to store the packout, then use it normally.
I love the Milwaukee ratchet sets but I want All Metric in an a Packout case. 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 almost never do I see an SAE fastener working on cars and I don't want to carry around tools I never will use. looks like so far you can only get only 3/8 in a metric only set in a Packout case.
Im building my kit buying both, but I will only be packing the metric and leaving the SAE at home.
I would like to see them in 12 point
Nice!
Looks like a good set, unfortunately I don't know if this will work for mechanics as those sockets have a much wider base compared to other sets. I understand the advantage of it, especially in tight space, but in narrow shallow holes (think spark plugs) I am afraid the base would not fit. I see this being a very good choice for electricians or other trades were clearance is not a huge problem.
The base is not any wider than the rest of the socket. We measured the sockets with our dial calipers. Measuring across the round part of the socket is the exact diameter as from point to point diagonally. Also, we measured the 13mm diameter in the Milwaukee and it was within a few thousandths of an old USA Craftsman 13mm socket. Does that make sense? Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Interesting. Well I was wrong then. Looks great!
I love my kit, it lives in my work van and I caught mine on sale for $199. I see some negative opinions, can't satisfy a lot of folks. They will say their favorite flavor is vanilla and argue its the wrong type of vanilla when you bring the option to them.
you lucky bastard
Very nice thank you
Is the nutsert tool you use a Milwaukee ?
No, they don't make one. It's just a cheap Amazon kit. Thanks for watching.
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Why no 1/2 inch
Up to 300 everywhere now
WOW! 3 years later and it is now $314 - Damn!
250-260 if your patient. I just picked it up for 260.
@@chadhunter8757 Nice. Hope I catch a sale soon
@@mike_0213 Amazon has it. 262.99
I cannot get over how much more they are charging for these since you made the video. I only looked at the large set and it is $60 more.
Great information I've been looking at these for a while. The Home Depot around me is always out of stock so I've never been able to physically put my hands on them.
Look forward to your next video
They go on sale for 50% off al the time. You can order them online when they go on sale again so don't blame HD for being out of stock. Last year they were on sale virtually the entire holiday season and not once did I see them out of stock.
if milwaukee came with the complete socket line i would buy one. if they made a separate 1/4" packout set with complete socket line skipping no sizes, i would buy one. if they had a packout with wrenches, i would buy a set. too bad.
Yeah, you really have to piece them together. I bought the 3/8 set and they do not have the 20mm 3/8 yet there is one for sale on their website. Why is it not part of the 3/8 set?
On the back of the cardboard packaging that comes with the Milwaukee Packout tool set, it says the ratchets are “Made in Taiwan” and the sockets are “Made in China”.
There's drawers with ball bearing sliders going all like OMefnG?!?!?!
Thanks for watching.
The Rachet lever switch is terrible. The slightest touch activates the lever in the opposite direction. So if
your working it tight spaces it will drive you BAT SHIT CRAZY!!!! Other wise the sockets and extensions work great!! Just replace the ratchets
I want that ⛵
We don't blame you. Thanks for watching.
Great video as always: HOWEVER, this is nothing new. Milwaukee needs to offer this same package in 1/2” drive. Waiting……..
Yes. They have sockets and ratchets in 1/2", but they don't offer it in PACKOUT, Doesn't make sense. Thanks for watching.
I upgraded to the Metric 1/2in set after my all Stanley tools where stolen out of my truck. absolutely amazing tools.
Not a fan of the square back end on the sockets especially the deep sockets. In tight spaces where the socket barely fits the square isn't going to work as well as a round socket. I feel like they are trying to solve a problem that was rarely a actual problem and add functionality of accepting a wrench that would rarely be an advantage.
The problem is sockets rolling off your tool bench or rolling on the shop floor. That is a problem Milwaukee did solve.
@@paedahe4975 really how often is that a problem? Maybe you're using a couple of sockets a a time and one is on the ratchet. I'm usually using sockets when I'm working on a vehicle or something else and rolling away isn't a huge problem. I have Milwaukee power tools and they are very good but these sockets in my opinion are not the best design. The reason sockets haven't changed much is that they work well they way they were.
My personal opinion is they were trying to be different than others, in order to standout, and they just tried to solve a problem in the process. Can't blame them for that. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews I'm a car guy I've owned about 100 cars through the years. I've often had to fit a socket in very tight spaces where the socket is rubbing on something around the bolt or nut you are trying to remove or replace. In that situation I think the square part of the socket creates a disadvantage that outweighs any positive advantage it has. Functionality is the most important aspect of a socket and the square part potentially limits that functionality. I don't think thousands of mechanics are going to get rid of their snap on or Mac sockets and buy these. We will see but my money is on that feature eventually going away.
I personally think that if your using non locking extensions, and reaching into the engine, sockets have a way of catching on edges and falling to the floor or into the engine. If your lucky, it will drop to the floor if there is no rock guards underneath. In that case, the square design would leave the socket right where it fell. But the reason it fell is that the square caught an edge on something... it’s a wash. 🤷♂️
Are they made in Taiwan or China?
It's one China!
@@mpcarlin11 Significant difference in quality between Taiwan and mainland china when it comes to manufacturing. They are not even close. But Milwaukee itself since 2005 is a subsidiary of Techtronic Industries based in Hong Kong.
Do the sockets fall out of place when carrying like a briefcase
No, not at all, the lid and organizer keep them very secure when carrying...unlike many other tool kits like this. Thanks for watching.
hi can u help me do a video review for 2021 new upgraded multi functional Digital multimeter ,it is we can offer u a free product tks
You should send us an email or Direct Message us through here or social media. Thanks for watching.
Looks like 3/8 and 1/2 to me.
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Thanks for watching.
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What have you.
Not a fan of these ratchets at all. They have considerable anvil/gear deflection when the ratchet isn't perfectly at a 90°. This makes the gearing jump and stick making the socket very hard to turn quickly by hand. The ratchet is also very heavy and not balanced well. The sockets are okay. If you are like me and like to grab and turn the socket to speed things up, the square ends interfere.
These sockets do still roll, just not as easy.
😍😍😍
Thanks for watching.
1/4" ??? I don't know any Maintenance work that uses 1/4" except maybe electricians. 1/2" & 3/8" ok, but not 1/4"..... waste of good space and dead weight to carry around IMHO.
I'm think perhaps most are purchased by non professionals like me. I would not buy it without 1/4.
@@shanew7361 ohh yea.... Based on what? Coz you can't afford it....
I would disagree with that. 1/4" is used plenty in Automotive work. Maybe not in Building Maintenance, but plenty elsewhere. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Good point. A lot of those workers buy off the mobile Tool Trucks, so it's another option for them. It would be a convenient set especially for a DIY'er. In that case, the larger set would be the way to go I would think. Another good video, keep'm coming and Tool-On. :)
Holden commodore 3.8 ecotec engine needs a 5.5mm on the dfi module
You'll never use all 106 pieces. So just buy what you need to do a job.
You never know what you need. It's always cheaper in the long run to buy a larger set. Thanks for watching.
You know you don’t need to yell when you are wearing a lav mic. Maybe your hearing is fucked but mines not so just chill out ok...
Not worth it. You skip sizes. Skipping is bullshit. Show me a set from 5 to 24 mm no skip 6 point. Dont even need a ratchet
It's not skipping sizes; it's missing sizes. Most sets don't even offer 24mm in 3/8th, but many offer up to 22mm.
You tell boring stories
This looks like a great set for my junkyard trips but I just hate that this is the only way to get the 1/4" sockets in a Packout.