As a Romanian from Romania this sounds very intresting because for me there is two types of words in this language, the ones that i understand perfectly and the ones that i have no clue what they mean. It also kinda reminds me of the Romanian accents of Moldavia and Northern Transylvania wich makes sense considering that those accents tend to be slightly closer to Old Romanian.
Most of the words you don't understand are of greek etymology. Pirazmo (pirazmo/πειρασμό), fuljiaua (foljia/φωλιά), aftuchinaljei (aftokinito/αυτοκίνητο), chiro (kero/καιρό), tihisi (tihi/τύχει), fendi (afendi/αφέντη), lahtarosu (lahtara/λαχτάρα), frixi (frixi/φρίξει), praxi (praxi/πράξη), haristo (efharisto/ευχαριστώ), palacarsescu (parakaleso/παρακαλέσω), idyia (idyia/ίδια), ilichi (ilikia/ηλικία), hoara (hora/χώρα), cratu (cratos/κράτος), tihi (tihi/τύχη), ariseashti (aresi/αρέσει), tora (tora/τώρα), cumata (comati/κομμάτι), tihi (tihi/τύχη), mana (mana/μάνα), papu (papu/παππού), nicuchira (nikokira/νοικοκυρά), yrambo (ghambro/γαμπρό) etc. I also recognised some words of non-greek etymology, that modern Greek speakers also use: yumaru (ghomari/γομάρι), zulapi (zulapi/ζουλάπι). Finally, aslanu is of turkish etymology.
As a Portuguese speaker, Aromanian sounds far harder to understand than Romanian for me. In Romanian I can get the meaning of several words, but it seems that they are far less in Aromanian.
The aromanian language has 2 relations with Romanian. First was the linguistic continuum of latin dialects, while the people themselves have always been seperate (aromanians were probably a mix of Illyrians Thracians ans Greeks while Romanians are only daco-thracians)we had a linguistic continuum with who later became Romanian. The other reason is because many of the balkan vlachs have historically migrated to Romania and that includes many aromanians who would often come together with Greeks which resulted in some dialects not only being similar to vlachs due to the common origins of the languages but also forming through the mixing of the 2 languages. The notable thing is also that both languages are rather conservative so even though there is a complete separation of the continuum for around 1000 years, the changes have not been extremely large.
Accentele din țară le înțeleg fără probleme dar limba asta exact cum ai zis are niște cuvinte de nu înțeleg efectiv ce înseamnă...mi se pare că înțeleg puțin și după gata😅
I love all my Aromanian brothers, from Romania. I hope we recognise them as a national minority. It just will make them preserve their culture more easily. All other countries must then follow
Thank you so much for the video! It's always an honour to participate and help with sustaining and protecting our culture! It's very important to make ourselves heard to finally get our oficial recognition. S'bâneadzâ Armânamea
It is not mentioned in the video, but Vlachs/Aromanians were cattle-breeding nomadic tribal populations that by the XIth century began to immigrate in great numbers into the Western Balkans as well, and had a very important presence in Bosnia and Croatia during the late Middle Ages, and of course an even more important presence in medieval Serbia (in the eastern part of modern-day Serbia there are still a considerable number of Vlach communities who preserve their medieval Romance language). When the Ottoman armies advanced North-Westwards from Rumelia (Macedonia-Thrace) they integrated the Vlach tribal nomads jointly with the Serb nomad shepherds and some Albanian and Croatian nomadic cattle-breeding groups into the Eflak (Vlach, in Ottoman Turkish) Non-Muslim social-military caste, which performed until the end of the XVIth century very important military duties, such as carrying out border plundering raids and scorched-earth operations into enemy christian territory. The majority of Vlach and other Vlach-like tribes (katuns, with their chieftains, or primikurs) ended up being Slavicized and ended either integrated into Serb Orthodox (the majority of Vlach tribes were Orthodox initially though), Catholic Croat (in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia), or Muslim Slav (in Bosnia, and specially in Herzegovina) communities, after they ended up abandonning their nomadic life-style and thus their privileges regarding tax-paying and permission to bear arms and ride horses were considerably reduced by the Ottoman authorities. Besides, starting when the Ottoman armies under Mehmed the Conqueror conquered the kingdom of Bosnia in 1463, many Vlachs (specially Catholic) in Bosnia and the Western Balkans migrated into Dalmatia (Ragusan republic), Venetian republic and Italy (specially North Italy).
@@mahomadabrahimabenjucef Tell me also what is the difference between "valach" and "vlach". Do you know what the south of Romania was called? Wallachia. Vlachs or v/walachs (the name comes from the first neo-Romanic tribe found in today's Belgium; this name was given by Germanic barbarian tribes - meaning people who speak a vulgar Latin language) were divided into 2 parts: South Danube and North Danube who coexisted in the same culture and language. When the great migrations (Slavs and Bulgarians) began, they practically severed this connection, and those from the south of the Danube had to descend deep into the Balkans and take shelter from these migratory barbarians up to the Pindus Mountains and other mountainous areas in Albania, Macedonia and The islands of Istria.😁
Only in Dobruja. This is because Romania encouraged them to come to colonize the area after it took it from Bulgaria. There's still Aromanians outside Dobruja
Their Romance language, Aromanaian survived in difficult conditions in the face of Greek and the Balkan Slavic languages, which was not the case for the Dalmatian language, which was also called Vegliot, the language of ancient Ragusa, which is now called Dubrovnik. A word about Dalmatian language which existed betwenn Italic and Aromanian and Romanian languages: Tuone Udaina (1823-1898) was the last speaker to have an active knowledge of the Dalmatian language. Although Vegliot Dalmatian was not Udaina's mother tongue, he had learned it by listening to his parents' conversations. He acted as a linguistic informant for Italian linguist Matteo Giulio Bartoli (1873-1946). Bartoli wrote his works in Italian and published a German translation (Das Dalmatische) in 1906. "Yu yay foyt a skol day tšink yayn e dapú yu vay stat a skol tra yayn; yu yay studyút fenta i vapto yayn, yu yay studyút. E dapú el mi twota si o amalwòt e yu dzay dal su patrawn, monsin'awr véskovi. Dekaja el mi twota: "Yu non lo potaja lasúr a skol, perké ju non potaya kaminúr ple. Yu avás kwatri pire: ke-l dzay fure a menurle al dizmún e a la sar levurle a kworsa." - M. Bartoli, Das Dalmatische, Vienna, 19065 "I went to school since I was five years old and then I stayed at school for three years. I studied until I was eight, I studied. Then my father got sick and went to his boss, the bishop. My father said, "I can't leave him at school because I can't walk anymore. I have four sheep: let him go and feed them outside in the morning and bring them home in the evening." The Aromanians must fight to preserve their language, such a fragile treasure, so that one day there will not be a last Aromanian speaker, like the Dalmatian speaker Tuone Udaina.
Thanks a lot for this comment sire :) May I ask if it's true that majority of Dalmatian Romance-speaking people in Dalmatia ended up assimilated by the Venetian/Italian population there? Or were also assimilated by Morlach cattle-breading tribes there?
Greetings from Dalmatia❤ We are very much aware that our ancestry, however we do have to ask ourselves who are actually Aromanians/ Wallachs. Dalmatians most common haplougroup is I2 and absolutaly certain that I2 haplogrupe is native haplogrupe on Balkan.. Our folklore is very similar to Wallachs...
@@mahomadabrahimabenjucef Morlachs are Wallachs...therefore. It's actually from Italian Morowallachi, meaning dark/ black Wallachs. They were called dark/black due to color of their folklore cloths.
@@vmb2697not sure but all we know is that Morlachs were not native to Dalmatia originally. In my opinion they were Romanians from Transylvania (they had the rhotacism in Țara Moților) who split into a different ethnic group with their own language of which only the Istro-Romanians survive.
Im greek and my family from both sides father and mother are vlachs, I do speak the language although have no idea how to write it,none of my family knows as well. The accent is a bit different but I can understand everything said in the video
Thank you so much for the information! I also know that we say "banâ"(life) and "Bânedzu"(To live/I live) from "banoj" or something similar in Albanian
@@brainiac006 I will make you a question: if you moved to Belgium for example, and lost your Greek citizenship, would you still be a Greek? Now, would you still be a Vlach?
What is the main theory around the orin of vlachs, are they migrated from valachia or are they simply western balkanites speaking latin. We know that the designation was used also by other peoples to indicate latin speaking people like welsh, wales, vallonia etc. The illyrians where latinised to a great degree also, comunities like morlaks in Croatia till recently spoke a kind of aromanian. Also historic records in Montenegro and Albania indicate some tribes that spoke latin before being slavicized ore albanized. But i know that latin spoken in the balkans was different from western to eastern (like romanian). Is aromanian classified as western balkan latine or eastern and what is the grade of intelligibilty with romanian??
Aromanian is branched eastern Romance, along Daco-Romanian and its intelligibility with Romanian depends on their grade of assimilation. This one presents a heavily Hellenized and Turkified variant, clearly to distance it from its sister Daco-Romanian, but if they use the existing 'Latin' derived vocabulary would be much closer. Between the south Balkan Vlach languages Meglen-Romanian is the closest to Daco-Romanian, Romanians being also of Vlach ethnicity and language. What most don't know or refuse to accept is the obvious Pelasg origin of the Vlach people, Latinized to some extent. Towards that comes not only a significant amount of specific vocabulary, inherited from Pellac / Pallach, Bellaich / Pallaic language, but also the very Vlach or Balkan / Val'chan names. Either as Vlachs (Romanians) or Getae people named their traditions Pelagine, Belagines and their Vlach / Vlashin ancestors and their old people as B'lajin/i. Depending on region or linguistic backgroud P is also pronounced / spelled as B or V. Then middle G goes either as CH, SH or J and the first E/A/O is also mute. That's why the variety of Vlach names, signifying or being related to the same ethnic group. Vlach, Valch, Valach, Blach/k, Balch/k, Balak, Pelach, Pelag/a, 'Lach, Vlash, Vlashin, Blashin, Blajin, Blaj, Blagh, Blaga, Voloch, Boloch, Bolog, Bologa, Voloha The only language that still kept God as the Pelasg Zeus as Zeu and not the Greek Theos or Latin Deus, or Tata for Father and not Greek Pateras and Latin Pater or Mama for Mother and not the Greek Mitera or Latin Mater or Slavic Maty/Mayka, aiesta, aiasta - this, that, afara - outside, merg, marga - to go, and many other words, inherited by Vlach Romanian from Pellaic, Getae language. Now the entire ancient history tells us, but we love to ignore it, that the ancestors of Latin speaking Romans migrated to central Italic peninsula from Thessaly, south Balkans and the fact that their Tyrrhenian language was also PELASG. Latin being a Celtified Pelasg language, since Hallstatt Celtic expand, most probably due to Celtified Volcae people, originated in the Gava culture of east Pannonia, also considered in archeology a cradle of DACIAN Culture. Last but not least, must notice the VERY STRONG maternal and autosomal DNA connection between the Carpathian region, the north west Balkans, the west Carpathian towards central Europe, the Alps, central Italic peninsula around Latium and Rome, the Walloon regions of Belgium, the north west regions of Iberic peninsula, specifically Galicia, the Baltic regions in Latvia and Lithuania and last but not least most of Wales, but specially in the north, where was registered a strong Dacian presence for few centuries, due to the Dacian legion Prima Aelia Dacorum stationed at and around DEVA (very much Dacian name), the 3rd and 4th century capital of the Roman Britannia. Dacian legion spread around Castrum, Chester and Chester Shire today.
Mocans, originally, were Vlachs who emigrated to the Capathian mountains in Romania. When Aromanians met them and they said they are "mocani", Aromanians nick-named them "mucanji" generally for all the Romanians. Before that they called them "vlăhuți"(Vlachs)
I am Vlach from eastern serbia I speak Serbian, romanian and aromanian fluently (with english) our language is most similar to romanian so its easy to understand especially if romanians are from west romania
@@9_9876 I've never seen a Serbian Vlach identifying with Aromanians. They mostly all consider themselves "Vlachian-speaking Serbs" (aka. Romanians brainwashed to forget the real name of their language, to adopt the exonym "Vlach" and to feel patriotic for Serbia). Serbia most likely thought that Romania would claim Timok Valley after Romania's foundation in 1859, so they needed to break the ties of the Timok Romanians to Romania.
Albanians call them VLLAH, it mens Brorher! Vllach people are romaniside Illyrians/Thracians, brother of Albanians. Same costumes, history and similar language and same dna/haplogroup as us Albanians 🙌🏻 Respekt 🫡
@@dacianbarbarian3560 Romanian propaganda! We're not Wallakians, but Vlachs and both mean "Romance language speaker", but you Romanians don't really wanna study, you just swollow any propagandistic information. Such a shame. Go study and have some more knowledge
@@saebica your language is literally Romanian with a bit of Greek influence, you’re called aROMÂNI, and Vlachs descend from Dacians which guess what… are now Romanians. Real aRomanians are proud to wear the Romanian tricolour.
@@saebicatrebuie sa înveți tu mai mult despre istoria Dacilor și despre cum Imperiul Roman a cucerit Dacia și mulți Daci au migrat în sudul Balcanilor... de acolo sau amestecat cu mai multe popoare asa și limba e amestecata... dar tot romani sunteți... cum spune și numele vostru Aromâni.. asta spun italienii!
probably Dalmatian survived and a creole of Greek and Dalmatian，creole of Albanian and Dalmatian or something similar happened. Or maybe crazier things like Anatolian Turkish influenced Romance language is born.
@@samye2001 Dalmatian language I think was more the language of the Romance-speaking coastal towns of the Ragusan (Dubrovnik) republic rather than Vlach (that is, nomadic cattle-breeding Aromanian).
I am trully sorry! Didn't mean to offend our Moscopoli brothers. I changed the information in my file, but unfortunately I cannot modify the video as it's not mine. S'bâneadzâ Armânamea!
It's a language and it has its own dialects. Romanian dialects are within the Romanian borders. A dialect cannot have dialects, and as Aromanians has 4 dialects and over 24 sub-dialects, it's a language. Educate yourself.
The speaker has a very heavy Romanian accent, he definitely is Romanian and not a Vlah from Grammos, Greece as the title of this video says this video is about. This channel should be careful about avoiding people trying to spread propaganda. This is supposedly Aromanian from Grammos but the speaker is from Romania, the accent is so different that a Vlah from Grammos would have a hard time understanding it.
Cara s'hii armanu, va s'achicaseshtsa ca noi yramusteanjilji ditu Romanii himu atselji ditu soni cari nica u 'zburamu limba armaneasca. Voi, armanjilji ditu Elladha, hits chiruts tuts! Videts mash propayandi gartseshtsa ta s'va ashtearga isturiia a miletiljiei a voasta. Dumnidza s'va da cuveti s'nu chirets sum chiraturli a gretsaljiloru
In Greece we don't consider Vlachs a different nationality, they are one of many different greek tribes with their own language idioms and in fact they consider themselves very proud Greeks.
@@Gelu345 You are missing historical facts about the region, i could give you an explanation but it would be long, study the history of ancient Greece and its colonies, study ancient Rome and its roots (Aeneas from Troy) then study Byzantium (Eastern Roman Empire), look the maps and you will understand why Vlachs consider themselves Greeks and they fought for Greece in greek revolution against Ottomans, why they fought and gave their lives for Greece? And generally Romania in Greece is a very beloved nation with many similarities and Vlad Dracul (Dragon - Δράκος) is a very famous ruler in Greece and he belonged to the orthodox brotherhood of Imperial Dragons protectors of the Byzantine Empire.
Greek state is known to have assimilated all the orthodox ethnicities in their territory, and for not recognising not single one apart the muslims of trace. Albanians, Slavs, Aromanians they all became sons of Pericles😂😂
It is very intersting that no one say that in Albania the Aromanians call them selves RĂMĂNI, not ARMĂNI, and call the language they speak RĂMĂNĂ, not ARMÂNĂ. Why? Also, no one tell us that in the aromanian dialect of the historical Romanian language, the form ARMÂN/ ARMÂNĂ apeared by altering the common Romanian word RUMÂN/RUMÂNĂ. This form is the rezult of two phonetic processes: prothetisation and syncopation. Both of these phenomena are due to a not too ancient influence of the Greek language. Then, no one tells us that in Macedonia there is another group speaking Romanian language: the Megleno-Romanians. Their language, although phonetically very close to Aromanian , sufered great influence from the Bulgarian language. If the foreign lexical influences were removed from the four Romanian dialects, we would get only two perfectly intelligible dialects: Northern and Southern dialects.This huge non-Romance lexical ballast sts them apart and sets apart fromall other Romance idioms.This huge non-Romance lexical ballast is due to the fact that the Romanians were almost always under the domination of various foreign peoples. Not by chance, the national renaissance of the Romanian is due to the redisovery of the Latin langue. We can only be what we are through the Latin langue. You can' t build an valid identity with HARISTO, CĂSĂBĂLU, FARĂ and BANĂ. If you do not rely on the motto VIRTUS ROMANA REDIVIVA, you will not succedat.
@@saebica Identity is built on essence, not otherness. The definition of an identity is done, first of all, by the proximate gender, and not by the specific difference.Macedonianness does not represent either the proximate genus, or the specific difference, in the case of the defition of Aromaniannes.
@@zarzavattzarzavatt9309 Hybrids are of two types:1)sterile ( donkeys); 2) recesive (sheep goats). The same is the case with languages, with the difference that linguistic recessiveness does not lead to the original species ( that is, to the essence) if it is not based on self-awareness, and self-awareness on truth. Romance language groups( especially the minoriy ones) can save themselves only when they base their identity on essence, and not on otherness. The essence( Romanity) motivates; otherness, alienates and finally, assimilates.
Aromanian sounds like medieval România with loan words from the country of residence. All these Romanian dialects started from the Romanian language and and diversified after immersion in an non Romanian theritory. It is impossible to Latinize a language exactly in the same manner in individual and different ethnic populations hundreds of kms apart. The question is whether this is about Latinization or another latin language preexistent. Romanias 🇷🇴 were under different occupiers of different powers from Romans to Austro-Hungarian occupation for hundreds of years, some longer than the Roman occupation. And yet Romanians language did not change into Turkish, German or Hungarian. On the contrary. In this case it could be that all these other romance languages developed independently of each other, from a basic language that resembled Latin but was not influenced by it.
It is medieval România with loan words from the country of residence. All these Romanian dialects starten from the Romanian language snd and diversified after immersion in an non Romanian theritory. It is impossible to Latinize a language exactly in the same manner in individual and different ethnic populations hundreds of kms apart. The question is whether this is about Latinization or another latin language preexistente. Romanias 🇷🇴 were under different occupiers of different powers from Romans to Austro-Hungarian occupation for hundreds of years, some longer than the Roman occupation. And yet Romanians language did not change. On the contrary. In this case it could be that all these other romance languages developed independently of each other, from a basic language that resembled Latin but was not influenced by it.
Aromanians, Megleno-Romanians and Istro-Romanians are our brothers, true Romanians. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to you and has a political agenda. Like the guy who does the voice here does. He's all over the Internet, spreading hatred against Romania. Hagi or Halep would have a word with him but the guy is lost in his absolute hatred.
They are not Romanians proper. They have their own history and culture. Our connection and brotherhood is undeniable, but it is the choice of many of them not to identify as ethnic Romanians and we must respect them as our brothers. We must be better than the greeks who only wish to assimilate them.
People do know me and Aromanians respect me because we know out truth DNA. DNA tests have been done by many Aromanians and it's been proven we share almost 0% Romanian Dna. We're old Thracians in the Balkan peninsula, more exactly Thracian Macedonians, not the nowadays Macedonians who are Bulgarians. We and Romanians are old Thracians, but thousands of years separated us and influenced us differently. I spread no anti-Romanian propaganda, as you believe and lie. I only say the truth: We're not Romanians, nor do we want to be as ethnicity. We're Romanians just if we live in Romania as nationality. The Aromanian language has been studied even by Romanian scholars and professors and have shown the Vulgar Latin base plus the Balkan influences, but not Romanians. Once they published the pages, they have been immediately banned. What does this prove? That Romania has a strong assimilation propaganda against the Aromanians and the Megleno-Vlachs. And trust me, if you asked Hagi or Halep or Becali what they are, they'd say "Machidoni", but Romanians only as nationality because they were born here. Stop spreading false information about me because you have no chance.
@@9_9876We're not exactly Romanians because we're Macedonian Thracians and you're Getae-Dacians who were a Thracian well-known tribe. It's that simple ❤
@@saebicato be honest genetics tells you nothing really. Languages, genes and cultures spread in different ways, not necessarily connected. When a new group, with new genes and language, moves into a new area, this small group of people with their own language can become a sort of elite, for example via military conquest, and then they can enforce their own language into the people that already lived there. This would result in people who shared no genes with the guys who conquered the land speaking their language. It could also go the other way around. A large number of people can immigrate into an area and flood that land with their new genes, but they can be compelled to learn their language, for example when workers immigrate a new country. As a result the people there still speak their old language but they have new genes. The same goes for culture. American culture can become super popular everywhere thanks to TV and the internet and now everyone celebrates Halloween as a consumerist event, despite not sharing the language or genes of the Americans. It's even more complicated, because creole languages exist. In those cases, a large number of people with their own language and/or genes can be compelled to talk a new language, but they speak it with an accent, or, most often, they adopt the vocabulary but keep using that vocabulary with their old grammar and word order. I'll give you a real life example: there are similarities in grammar between Romanian and other Balkan languages. Those common grammatical rules aren't shared between Romanian and western romance languages like Spanish, and they aren't shared between for example Serbian and Russian. This would indicate that the languages in the Balkan all had a grammatical substrate originating in a common language, but then they adopted the words from other languages (Slavic or romance languages) and created their own creole languages. This would essentially mean that the Balkan languages all came from a similar language with similar grammar, but they aren't grouped together because nearly all their vocabulary comes from either latin or Slavic. This is only a hypothesis but it's still an interesting one at least. The point of this comment was to illustrate that really genes don't tell you that much about a language or culture.
It's a totally different language. Not intelligible with Romanian even in written form... We should recognize Aromanians as an ethnic minority: they have different looks, different culture, different language.
Thank you for the kind words. I've been trying to say this for a long time now but they keep pushing the Frasher dialect which has the maniest Romanian loan-words
Aromanian is a Romance language. This means that they have the same origin as French, Spanish, and Italian. Aromanian is not Romanian or a dialect of Romanian. The similarities between the language, Romanian and Greek are due to the fact that the Roman population once migrated to the Greek and Romanian populations, so each Aromanian dialect depends on the population they lived with. In a nutshell, aromanians are descendants of Roman soldiers and citizens, not Greeks or Romanian. I have spent many days studying and searching for Aromanian history and you can trust me on this one... We are SPQR
@@9_9876 Aw, thank you deeply much! Yes, we're called "Sutsata DEADUN", we're in Constanța, Romania, oficially, legally registered. We have a school and a teacher
"welcome my guests" Ghini vinits oaspiti amei ( aromanian) Ghini atz vinit oaspiti nei ( moldavian idiom) Bine ati venit oaspetii mei( standard Romanian)...
Omule, termină cu afirmațiile astea nefondate și stupide. Nu vorbim română, ci ARMÂNĂ, o limbă balcanică romanică similară românei pentru că noi suntem vechii traci macedoneni iar românii erau geto-daci, adică un trib tracic.
@@stelians5334 Care steag cap cu steag cu cap de lup???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Băi, nu mai inventați prostii. Steagul armânesc oficial de la Strasbourg este cel alb cu Soarele lui Macedon. Nu avem și nu am folosit niciodată lupi pe emblemele armânești, ci berbeci. Prietenii tăi armâni ori sunt armâni fârșiroți care pentru bani se consideră români, ori nu își cunosc adevărata istorie, ci doar ce ne-au băgat românii comuniști în cap după ce au fost cumpărați de români în schimbul de populație din 1930.
Aromanian is not a dialect of Romanian. Case closed. Another thing: Aromanians adopted Bulgarian national identity by tens of thousands which should also ring a bell...
@@saebica Aromanians talk romanian. The Getae-Dacians are Thracians like Herodot said"the Dacians are the most bravest and rigteous to all Thracians. Aromanians are not slav,greek or latin they are autenthic Getae-Daciens 100%
@@florinivascu5 Aromanians are not Greeks, Slavs, Iliryians, Turks ir Romanians. We are the true Macedonians Thracians. We all know what Romania and Greece's plans are to assimilate Aromanians. We know how much money Aromanians recieved in Romania to declare themselves Romanians. We don't have any bit of Romanian dna similarities, so stop trying to propagate the same silly and fake stories We know the people who are paid to spread fake information from The Romanian Academy that was built originally by Aromanians. Genetically and historically, it's impossible for Aromanians to be related to Romanians because we've never lived together. We are both in Pindus mountains, not in the Balkan Peninsula. Our languages are barely similar
As a Romanian from Romania this sounds very intresting because for me there is two types of words in this language, the ones that i understand perfectly and the ones that i have no clue what they mean. It also kinda reminds me of the Romanian accents of Moldavia and Northern Transylvania wich makes sense considering that those accents tend to be slightly closer to Old Romanian.
Most of the words you don't understand are of greek etymology. Pirazmo (pirazmo/πειρασμό), fuljiaua (foljia/φωλιά), aftuchinaljei (aftokinito/αυτοκίνητο), chiro (kero/καιρό), tihisi (tihi/τύχει), fendi (afendi/αφέντη), lahtarosu (lahtara/λαχτάρα), frixi (frixi/φρίξει), praxi (praxi/πράξη), haristo (efharisto/ευχαριστώ), palacarsescu (parakaleso/παρακαλέσω), idyia (idyia/ίδια), ilichi (ilikia/ηλικία), hoara (hora/χώρα), cratu (cratos/κράτος), tihi (tihi/τύχη), ariseashti (aresi/αρέσει), tora (tora/τώρα), cumata (comati/κομμάτι), tihi (tihi/τύχη), mana (mana/μάνα), papu (papu/παππού), nicuchira (nikokira/νοικοκυρά), yrambo (ghambro/γαμπρό) etc.
I also recognised some words of non-greek etymology, that modern Greek speakers also use: yumaru (ghomari/γομάρι), zulapi (zulapi/ζουλάπι).
Finally, aslanu is of turkish etymology.
As a Portuguese speaker, Aromanian sounds far harder to understand than Romanian for me. In Romanian I can get the meaning of several words, but it seems that they are far less in Aromanian.
The aromanian language has 2 relations with Romanian. First was the linguistic continuum of latin dialects, while the people themselves have always been seperate (aromanians were probably a mix of Illyrians Thracians ans Greeks while Romanians are only daco-thracians)we had a linguistic continuum with who later became Romanian. The other reason is because many of the balkan vlachs have historically migrated to Romania and that includes many aromanians who would often come together with Greeks which resulted in some dialects not only being similar to vlachs due to the common origins of the languages but also forming through the mixing of the 2 languages. The notable thing is also that both languages are rather conservative so even though there is a complete separation of the continuum for around 1000 years, the changes have not been extremely large.
Accentele din țară le înțeleg fără probleme dar limba asta exact cum ai zis are niște cuvinte de nu înțeleg efectiv ce înseamnă...mi se pare că înțeleg puțin și după gata😅
Așa e limba noastră.. Mulțumesc de recenzie ❤ @@paco680
I love all my Aromanian brothers, from Romania. I hope we recognise them as a national minority. It just will make them preserve their culture more easily. All other countries must then follow
Thank you so much for the kind and truthfull words!
Thank you so much for the video!
It's always an honour to participate and help with sustaining and protecting our culture!
It's very important to make ourselves heard to finally get our oficial recognition.
S'bâneadzâ Armânamea
Hope you get recognition! Wishing all the best!!
@@TayaRamadan-wy1fz 💜
Te numești ca fratele meu 😊
@@norielgames4765 te pup
They used to live in Bulgaria as well, but were expelled during the forced population exchange between Bulgaria and Romania in 1940.
It is not mentioned in the video, but Vlachs/Aromanians were cattle-breeding nomadic tribal populations that by the XIth century began to immigrate in great numbers into the Western Balkans as well, and had a very important presence in Bosnia and Croatia during the late Middle Ages, and of course an even more important presence in medieval Serbia (in the eastern part of modern-day Serbia there are still a considerable number of Vlach communities who preserve their medieval Romance language). When the Ottoman armies advanced North-Westwards from Rumelia (Macedonia-Thrace) they integrated the Vlach tribal nomads jointly with the Serb nomad shepherds and some Albanian and Croatian nomadic cattle-breeding groups into the Eflak (Vlach, in Ottoman Turkish) Non-Muslim social-military caste, which performed until the end of the XVIth century very important military duties, such as carrying out border plundering raids and scorched-earth operations into enemy christian territory. The majority of Vlach and other Vlach-like tribes (katuns, with their chieftains, or primikurs) ended up being Slavicized and ended either integrated into Serb Orthodox (the majority of Vlach tribes were Orthodox initially though), Catholic Croat (in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia), or Muslim Slav (in Bosnia, and specially in Herzegovina) communities, after they ended up abandonning their nomadic life-style and thus their privileges regarding tax-paying and permission to bear arms and ride horses were considerably reduced by the Ottoman authorities. Besides, starting when the Ottoman armies under Mehmed the Conqueror conquered the kingdom of Bosnia in 1463, many Vlachs (specially Catholic) in Bosnia and the Western Balkans migrated into Dalmatia (Ragusan republic), Venetian republic and Italy (specially North Italy).
Those who lived hundreds of years in Bijdova, Lupova, Shatra, Bachitsa now in Romania have the nick-name "Vâryâgeani"(Bulgarian Aromanians)
And there still are some Aromanians in Bulgaria, because they have the famous organisation Fântâna, by Yioryi Gushev
@@mahomadabrahimabenjucef Tell me also what is the difference between "valach" and "vlach". Do you know what the south of Romania was called? Wallachia. Vlachs or v/walachs (the name comes from the first neo-Romanic tribe found in today's Belgium; this name was given by Germanic barbarian tribes - meaning people who speak a vulgar Latin language) were divided into 2 parts: South Danube and North Danube who coexisted in the same culture and language. When the great migrations (Slavs and Bulgarians) began, they practically severed this connection, and those from the south of the Danube had to descend deep into the Balkans and take shelter from these migratory barbarians up to the Pindus Mountains and other mountainous areas in Albania, Macedonia and The islands of Istria.😁
Only in Dobruja.
This is because Romania encouraged them to come to colonize the area after it took it from Bulgaria.
There's still Aromanians outside Dobruja
This is the most underrated channel !!
Their Romance language, Aromanaian survived in difficult conditions in the face of Greek and the Balkan Slavic languages, which was not the case for the Dalmatian language, which was also called Vegliot, the language of ancient Ragusa, which is now called Dubrovnik.
A word about Dalmatian language which existed betwenn Italic and Aromanian and Romanian languages:
Tuone Udaina (1823-1898) was the last speaker to have an active knowledge of the Dalmatian language. Although Vegliot Dalmatian was not Udaina's mother tongue, he had learned it by listening to his parents' conversations. He acted as a linguistic informant for Italian linguist Matteo Giulio Bartoli (1873-1946). Bartoli wrote his works in Italian and published a German translation (Das Dalmatische) in 1906.
"Yu yay foyt a skol day tšink yayn e dapú yu vay stat a skol tra yayn; yu yay studyút fenta i vapto yayn, yu yay studyút. E dapú el mi twota si o amalwòt e yu dzay dal su patrawn, monsin'awr véskovi. Dekaja el mi twota: "Yu non lo potaja lasúr a skol, perké ju non potaya kaminúr ple. Yu avás kwatri pire: ke-l dzay fure a menurle al dizmún e a la sar levurle a kworsa."
- M. Bartoli, Das Dalmatische, Vienna, 19065
"I went to school since I was five years old and then I stayed at school for three years. I studied until I was eight, I studied. Then my father got sick and went to his boss, the bishop. My father said, "I can't leave him at school because I can't walk anymore. I have four sheep: let him go and feed them outside in the morning and bring them home in the evening."
The Aromanians must fight to preserve their language, such a fragile treasure, so that one day there will not be a last Aromanian speaker, like the Dalmatian speaker Tuone Udaina.
You left me speechless!
❤
Thanks a lot for this comment sire :) May I ask if it's true that majority of Dalmatian Romance-speaking people in Dalmatia ended up assimilated by the Venetian/Italian population there? Or were also assimilated by Morlach cattle-breading tribes there?
Greetings from Dalmatia❤ We are very much aware that our ancestry, however we do have to ask ourselves who are actually Aromanians/ Wallachs. Dalmatians most common haplougroup is I2 and absolutaly certain that I2 haplogrupe is native haplogrupe on Balkan..
Our folklore is very similar to Wallachs...
@@mahomadabrahimabenjucef Morlachs are Wallachs...therefore. It's actually from Italian Morowallachi, meaning dark/ black Wallachs. They were called dark/black due to color of their folklore cloths.
@@vmb2697not sure but all we know is that Morlachs were not native to Dalmatia originally. In my opinion they were Romanians from Transylvania (they had the rhotacism in Țara Moților) who split into a different ethnic group with their own language of which only the Istro-Romanians survive.
Im greek and my family from both sides father and mother are vlachs, I do speak the language although have no idea how to write it,none of my family knows as well. The accent is a bit different but I can understand everything said in the video
Lucky you, I would like to learn it. My ancestors were Vlachs
if your family from both sides are vlachs means you are vlach from Greece man.
αδερφέ από που μπορούμε να μάθουμε την γλώσσα
Make sure your children and grandchildren do not forget that they're Vlachs
Vlachs are not real Greeks/ Hellens. They are a branch of Romanian nation
I love the sound of this language! ❤
Thank you
Hârioasâ! Un video dipu mshatu! Ancljinâciuni!
Haristo ditu inimâ, Chirauâ Angela! 💜
We Albanians also say nikoqir, lepur, gomar, peshku. And I think Arberesh also use zbui for azbuirara. So interesting!
Thank you so much for the information! I also know that we say "banâ"(life) and "Bânedzu"(To live/I live) from "banoj" or something similar in Albanian
Beautiful sounding language.
Another great video.
As an Argentinian and Hispanic-Latin , I send my greatest love to my brothers , the Latins of the east , strong and enduring Romans .
Greetings and love from Aromanians
Oh man, as a Greek speaker some of these words are too familiar.
Many Greek influences indeed.
There are Turkish words too!
Beautiful!
Do you know a course about this language?
As a Romanian, I would like to learn
Pretty hard alone. We have schools in North Macedonia and Romania. Also some courses in Greece and most probably Albania too
Im greek and i speak this language I learnt from my grand parents and my family but none knows how it is written
@@brainiac006 Then you are t not a Greek.
BOULE ! Caută în Constanța, sunt școli primare, mergi deasemenea în București, la clubutile lor.
@@brainiac006 I will make you a question: if you moved to Belgium for example, and lost your Greek citizenship, would you still be a Greek? Now, would you still be a Vlach?
Felicitări....aromânii
I'm Sicilian and even I can pick up on a lot of words
Interesting 👍
i notice some words borrowed from turkish: aslanu (arslan thelion), daima (always turco-arabic) ama (but turco arabic) afende (turkish effendi)
I recognize many Greek words such as nicuchira (it means housewife in Greek), pirazmo (temptation), pirifanja (pride) etc.
Load-words ;p
The Aromanian language sounds like a holy language
Thanks
What is the main theory around the orin of vlachs, are they migrated from valachia or are they simply western balkanites speaking latin.
We know that the designation was used also by other peoples to indicate latin speaking people like welsh, wales, vallonia etc.
The illyrians where latinised to a great degree also, comunities like morlaks in Croatia till recently spoke a kind of aromanian. Also historic records in Montenegro and Albania indicate some tribes that spoke latin before being slavicized ore albanized. But i know that latin spoken in the balkans was different from western to eastern (like romanian). Is aromanian classified as western balkan latine or eastern and what is the grade of intelligibilty with romanian??
Aromanian is branched eastern Romance, along Daco-Romanian and its intelligibility with Romanian depends on their grade of assimilation. This one presents a heavily Hellenized and Turkified variant, clearly to distance it from its sister Daco-Romanian, but if they use the existing 'Latin' derived vocabulary would be much closer. Between the south Balkan Vlach languages Meglen-Romanian is the closest to Daco-Romanian, Romanians being also of Vlach ethnicity and language.
What most don't know or refuse to accept is the obvious Pelasg origin of the Vlach people, Latinized to some extent. Towards that comes not only a significant amount of specific vocabulary, inherited from Pellac / Pallach, Bellaich / Pallaic language, but also the very Vlach or Balkan / Val'chan names.
Either as Vlachs (Romanians) or Getae people named their traditions Pelagine, Belagines and their Vlach / Vlashin ancestors and their old people as B'lajin/i.
Depending on region or linguistic backgroud P is also pronounced / spelled as B or V. Then middle G goes either as CH, SH or J and the first E/A/O is also mute.
That's why the variety of Vlach names, signifying or being related to the same ethnic group.
Vlach, Valch, Valach, Blach/k, Balch/k, Balak, Pelach, Pelag/a, 'Lach, Vlash, Vlashin, Blashin, Blajin, Blaj, Blagh, Blaga, Voloch, Boloch, Bolog, Bologa, Voloha
The only language that still kept God as the Pelasg Zeus as Zeu and not the Greek Theos or Latin Deus, or Tata for Father and not Greek Pateras and Latin Pater or Mama for Mother and not the Greek Mitera or Latin Mater or Slavic Maty/Mayka, aiesta, aiasta - this, that, afara - outside, merg, marga - to go, and many other words, inherited by Vlach Romanian from Pellaic, Getae language.
Now the entire ancient history tells us, but we love to ignore it, that the ancestors of Latin speaking Romans migrated to central Italic peninsula from Thessaly, south Balkans and the fact that their Tyrrhenian language was also PELASG. Latin being a Celtified Pelasg language, since Hallstatt Celtic expand, most probably due to Celtified Volcae people, originated in the Gava culture of east Pannonia, also considered in archeology a cradle of DACIAN Culture.
Last but not least, must notice the VERY STRONG maternal and autosomal DNA connection between the Carpathian region, the north west Balkans, the west Carpathian towards central Europe, the Alps, central Italic peninsula around Latium and Rome, the Walloon regions of Belgium, the north west regions of Iberic peninsula, specifically Galicia, the Baltic regions in Latvia and Lithuania and last but not least most of Wales, but specially in the north, where was registered a strong Dacian presence for few centuries, due to the Dacian legion Prima Aelia Dacorum stationed at and around DEVA (very much Dacian name), the 3rd and 4th century capital of the Roman Britannia. Dacian legion spread around Castrum, Chester and Chester Shire today.
3:03 fun fact, some Aromanians from Romanian Dobruja call Romanians "mucani" (mucans), based on this it is obvious this person is from Romania
Mocans, originally, were Vlachs who emigrated to the Capathian mountains in Romania. When Aromanians met them and they said they are "mocani", Aromanians nick-named them "mucanji" generally for all the Romanians. Before that they called them "vlăhuți"(Vlachs)
@@saebicawhich vlachs? Like romanians? Aromanians? Other vlachs?
@@darthrobpen I didn't quite get you.
I am Vlach from eastern serbia I speak Serbian, romanian and aromanian fluently (with english) our language is most similar to romanian so its easy to understand especially if romanians are from west romania
A language mixing the 2 major languages of Rome: Greek and Latin. The true Roman language.
where is Romanian, European Spanish, Italian and French language video?
Romanian
I must be an odd ball. I'm not even European, and yet I could easily understand many words of the Aromanian language.
Do u speak russian?
@@Joseph-pz5bo
No, I don't. I just noticed that many words are Latin/Romance, and some words are similar to Greek.
@Васси Драконов oh if u spoke some kind of slavic language u would be able to understand the words that it got from the surrounding slavic languages
@@Joseph-pz5boslavic influence in Aromanian is pretty reduced. And many of the words entered through Albanian/Greek first.
moravian pls ilovelanguage
its funny that in Timoc (serbia) people think they speak this language but they actually speak romanian, the same as in romania
Yes strangely I've seen many Serbian Vlachs identify with the far away Aromanians but they're just Romanians
This is the Aromanian language. Those Vlachs in Serbia are just Romanians, not Aromanians.
@@9_9876 I've never seen a Serbian Vlach identifying with Aromanians. They mostly all consider themselves "Vlachian-speaking Serbs" (aka. Romanians brainwashed to forget the real name of their language, to adopt the exonym "Vlach" and to feel patriotic for Serbia). Serbia most likely thought that Romania would claim Timok Valley after Romania's foundation in 1859, so they needed to break the ties of the Timok Romanians to Romania.
Albanians call them VLLAH, it mens Brorher! Vllach people are romaniside Illyrians/Thracians, brother of Albanians. Same costumes, history and similar language and same dna/haplogroup as us Albanians 🙌🏻 Respekt 🫡
Aromanians are literally Vlachs descending from Wallachia, aka Romania
@@dacianbarbarian3560 Romanian propaganda! We're not Wallakians, but Vlachs and both mean "Romance language speaker", but you Romanians don't really wanna study, you just swollow any propagandistic information. Such a shame.
Go study and have some more knowledge
@@saebica your language is literally Romanian with a bit of Greek influence, you’re called aROMÂNI, and Vlachs descend from Dacians which guess what… are now Romanians. Real aRomanians are proud to wear the Romanian tricolour.
@@saebicatrebuie sa înveți tu mai mult despre istoria Dacilor și despre cum Imperiul Roman a cucerit Dacia și mulți Daci au migrat în sudul Balcanilor... de acolo sau amestecat cu mai multe popoare asa și limba e amestecata... dar tot romani sunteți... cum spune și numele vostru Aromâni.. asta spun italienii!
@@larisalaurabisorca2310 își spun așa pentru că eram odată același popor, cam acum 1000 de ani.
I wonder what would've happened if the Balkans didn't get slavicized
In ex-Yugoslavia, Dalmatian language, situating between Romanian and Italian, died out only in 1898.
probably Dalmatian survived and a creole of Greek and Dalmatian，creole of Albanian and Dalmatian or something similar happened. Or maybe crazier things like Anatolian Turkish influenced Romance language is born.
@@samye2001 Dalmatian language I think was more the language of the Romance-speaking coastal towns of the Ragusan (Dubrovnik) republic rather than Vlach (that is, nomadic cattle-breeding Aromanian).
@@mahomadabrahimabenjucef I see，I was just having some crazy imaginations around the Dalmatian
you can just wonder
romanian with greek vibes
Nah
Yes, it is kinda like that.
Moscopoleans and muzachiars are not farsherots the only problem of the videos is this !
I am trully sorry! Didn't mean to offend our Moscopoli brothers.
I changed the information in my file, but unfortunately I cannot modify the video as it's not mine.
S'bâneadzâ Armânamea!
Aromanian
Is dialect romanian...
Is True.
Shut up and stop assimilating us.
Armân language is a Romance language.
It is not a dialect of Romanian, but an independent language that share a common origin with Romanian.
No. Aromanian is a different language. Aromanian is not a dialect of Romanian.
I am Romanian some words just have nothing to do with Romanian!
It is not a Language! It is a Dialect. If you know the difference.... da?
Is a language
It's a language and it has its own dialects.
Romanian dialects are within the Romanian borders.
A dialect cannot have dialects, and as Aromanians has 4 dialects and over 24 sub-dialects, it's a language.
Educate yourself.
Sounds like a Greek speaking Romanian.
To me it just sounded like exotic Romanian
@@9_9876Romanian is exotic in itself
Sounds like a Greek speaking Romanian?
Not that much 😂
The speaker has a very heavy Romanian accent, he definitely is Romanian and not a Vlah from Grammos, Greece as the title of this video says this video is about. This channel should be careful about avoiding people trying to spread propaganda. This is supposedly Aromanian from Grammos but the speaker is from Romania, the accent is so different that a Vlah from Grammos would have a hard time understanding it.
Cara s'hii armanu, va s'achicaseshtsa ca noi yramusteanjilji ditu Romanii himu atselji ditu soni cari nica u 'zburamu limba armaneasca.
Voi, armanjilji ditu Elladha, hits chiruts tuts! Videts mash propayandi gartseshtsa ta s'va ashtearga isturiia a miletiljiei a voasta.
Dumnidza s'va da cuveti s'nu chirets sum chiraturli a gretsaljiloru
aromantics stand up ‼️
lmao
🤦
Our Albanians 🇦🇱🙏🇽🇰
We are not Albanians, nor Greeks, Slavs or Romanians. We are an ethnicity.
In Greece we don't consider Vlachs a different nationality, they are one of many different greek tribes with their own language idioms and in fact they consider themselves very proud Greeks.
They are greek who don't speak Greek! We also consider french to be romanian who does don't speak romanian! 😂😂😂
@@Gelu345 You are missing historical facts about the region, i could give you an explanation but it would be long, study the history of ancient Greece and its colonies, study ancient Rome and its roots (Aeneas from Troy) then study Byzantium (Eastern Roman Empire), look the maps and you will understand why Vlachs consider themselves Greeks and they fought for Greece in greek revolution against Ottomans, why they fought and gave their lives for Greece? And generally Romania in Greece is a very beloved nation with many similarities and Vlad Dracul (Dragon - Δράκος) is a very famous ruler in Greece and he belonged to the orthodox brotherhood of Imperial Dragons protectors of the Byzantine Empire.
Greek state is known to have assimilated all the orthodox ethnicities in their territory, and for not recognising not single one apart the muslims of trace. Albanians, Slavs, Aromanians they all became sons of Pericles😂😂
It is very intersting that no one say that in Albania the Aromanians call them selves RĂMĂNI, not ARMĂNI, and call the language they speak RĂMĂNĂ, not ARMÂNĂ. Why? Also, no one tell us that in the aromanian dialect of the historical Romanian language, the form ARMÂN/ ARMÂNĂ apeared by altering the common Romanian word RUMÂN/RUMÂNĂ. This form is the rezult of two phonetic processes: prothetisation and syncopation. Both of these phenomena are due to a not too ancient influence of the Greek language. Then, no one tells us that in Macedonia there is another group speaking Romanian language: the Megleno-Romanians. Their language, although phonetically very close to Aromanian , sufered great influence from the Bulgarian language. If the foreign lexical influences were removed from the four Romanian dialects, we would get only two perfectly intelligible dialects: Northern and Southern dialects.This huge non-Romance lexical ballast sts them apart and sets apart fromall other Romance idioms.This huge non-Romance lexical ballast is due to the fact that the Romanians were almost always under the domination of various foreign peoples. Not by chance, the national renaissance of the Romanian is due to the redisovery of the Latin langue. We can only be what we are through the Latin langue. You can' t build an valid identity with HARISTO, CĂSĂBĂLU, FARĂ and BANĂ. If you do not rely on the motto VIRTUS ROMANA REDIVIVA, you will not succedat.
What are you trying to say? 😂
@@saebica Identity is built on essence, not otherness. The definition of an identity is done, first of all, by the proximate gender, and not by the specific difference.Macedonianness does not represent either the proximate genus, or the specific difference, in the case of the defition of Aromaniannes.
who decides what is "foreign", maybe you should leave people alone to decide for themselves?
@@VictorGrigor-n7n 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I laughed
@@zarzavattzarzavatt9309 Hybrids are of two types:1)sterile ( donkeys); 2) recesive (sheep goats). The same is the case with languages, with the difference that linguistic recessiveness does not lead to the original species ( that is, to the essence) if it is not based on self-awareness, and self-awareness on truth. Romance language groups( especially the minoriy ones) can save themselves only when they base their identity on essence, and not on otherness. The essence( Romanity) motivates; otherness, alienates and finally, assimilates.
Aromanian sounds like medieval România with loan words from the country of residence.
All these Romanian dialects started from the Romanian language and and diversified after immersion in an non Romanian theritory. It is impossible to Latinize a language exactly in the same manner in individual and different ethnic populations hundreds of kms apart. The question is whether this is about Latinization or another latin language preexistent.
Romanias 🇷🇴 were under different occupiers of different powers from Romans to Austro-Hungarian occupation for hundreds of years, some longer than the Roman occupation. And yet Romanians language did not change into Turkish, German or Hungarian. On the contrary. In this case it could be that all these other romance languages developed independently of each other, from a basic language that resembled Latin but was not influenced by it.
Romanian propaganda, as always, trying to steal our language, history and culture.
aromanian doesn't sound like "medieval romanian".
@@zarzavattzarzavatt9309 Tried to tell them
first!
This sounds unlike any romance language. And I thought French was weird
It sounds like Romanian a lot. Both are romanace languages. But very different and far away geographically from Franch speakers
It is medieval România with loan words from the country of residence.
All these Romanian dialects starten from the Romanian language snd and diversified after immersion in an non Romanian theritory. It is impossible to Latinize a language exactly in the same manner in individual and different ethnic populations hundreds of kms apart. The question is whether this is about Latinization or another latin language preexistente.
Romanias 🇷🇴 were under different occupiers of different powers from Romans to Austro-Hungarian occupation for hundreds of years, some longer than the Roman occupation. And yet Romanians language did not change. On the contrary. In this case it could be that all these other romance languages developed independently of each other, from a basic language that resembled Latin but was not influenced by it.
Greek+romanian+turkish+albanian+slavic
No Romanian
This dialect looks like is the one farthest from Romanian.I probably don't understand but around 50 % of it.
Aromanians, Megleno-Romanians and Istro-Romanians are our brothers, true Romanians. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to you and has a political agenda. Like the guy who does the voice here does. He's all over the Internet, spreading hatred against Romania. Hagi or Halep would have a word with him but the guy is lost in his absolute hatred.
They are not Romanians proper. They have their own history and culture. Our connection and brotherhood is undeniable, but it is the choice of many of them not to identify as ethnic Romanians and we must respect them as our brothers. We must be better than the greeks who only wish to assimilate them.
@@9_9876 Everything you said, which I agree with, is exactly what makes them "Romanians proper", whatever that means.
People do know me and Aromanians respect me because we know out truth DNA. DNA tests have been done by many Aromanians and it's been proven we share almost 0% Romanian Dna. We're old Thracians in the Balkan peninsula, more exactly Thracian Macedonians, not the nowadays Macedonians who are Bulgarians.
We and Romanians are old Thracians, but thousands of years separated us and influenced us differently.
I spread no anti-Romanian propaganda, as you believe and lie. I only say the truth: We're not Romanians, nor do we want to be as ethnicity. We're Romanians just if we live in Romania as nationality.
The Aromanian language has been studied even by Romanian scholars and professors and have shown the Vulgar Latin base plus the Balkan influences, but not Romanians. Once they published the pages, they have been immediately banned. What does this prove? That Romania has a strong assimilation propaganda against the Aromanians and the Megleno-Vlachs.
And trust me, if you asked Hagi or Halep or Becali what they are, they'd say "Machidoni", but Romanians only as nationality because they were born here.
Stop spreading false information about me because you have no chance.
@@9_9876We're not exactly Romanians because we're Macedonian Thracians and you're Getae-Dacians who were a Thracian well-known tribe. It's that simple ❤
@@saebicato be honest genetics tells you nothing really.
Languages, genes and cultures spread in different ways, not necessarily connected.
When a new group, with new genes and language, moves into a new area, this small group of people with their own language can become a sort of elite, for example via military conquest, and then they can enforce their own language into the people that already lived there.
This would result in people who shared no genes with the guys who conquered the land speaking their language.
It could also go the other way around. A large number of people can immigrate into an area and flood that land with their new genes, but they can be compelled to learn their language, for example when workers immigrate a new country.
As a result the people there still speak their old language but they have new genes.
The same goes for culture. American culture can become super popular everywhere thanks to TV and the internet and now everyone celebrates Halloween as a consumerist event, despite not sharing the language or genes of the Americans.
It's even more complicated, because creole languages exist. In those cases, a large number of people with their own language and/or genes can be compelled to talk a new language, but they speak it with an accent, or, most often, they adopt the vocabulary but keep using that vocabulary with their old grammar and word order.
I'll give you a real life example: there are similarities in grammar between Romanian and other Balkan languages. Those common grammatical rules aren't shared between Romanian and western romance languages like Spanish, and they aren't shared between for example Serbian and Russian.
This would indicate that the languages in the Balkan all had a grammatical substrate originating in a common language, but then they adopted the words from other languages (Slavic or romance languages) and created their own creole languages.
This would essentially mean that the Balkan languages all came from a similar language with similar grammar, but they aren't grouped together because nearly all their vocabulary comes from either latin or Slavic.
This is only a hypothesis but it's still an interesting one at least.
The point of this comment was to illustrate that really genes don't tell you that much about a language or culture.
Limba aromână este din limba greacă veche
Fals nu e adevărat
It's a totally different language. Not intelligible with Romanian even in written form... We should recognize Aromanians as an ethnic minority: they have different looks, different culture, different language.
Thank you for the kind words. I've been trying to say this for a long time now but they keep pushing the Frasher dialect which has the maniest Romanian loan-words
Aromanian is a Romance language.
This means that they have the same origin as French, Spanish, and Italian.
Aromanian is not Romanian or a dialect of Romanian.
The similarities between the language, Romanian and Greek are due to the fact that the Roman population once migrated to the Greek and Romanian populations, so each Aromanian dialect depends on the population they lived with.
In a nutshell, aromanians are descendants of Roman soldiers and citizens, not Greeks or Romanian.
I have spent many days studying and searching for Aromanian history and you can trust me on this one... We are SPQR
Thank you so much for such a good comment! Greetings from DEADUN organisation in Constanța
if you are SPQR then stop trying to create differences between the legions
Very true
@@saebicayou're from a cultural organisation? Very nice. I've seen you before in these comments. Much prosperity to you and your team!
@@9_9876 Aw, thank you deeply much! Yes, we're called "Sutsata DEADUN", we're in Constanța, Romania, oficially, legally registered. We have a school and a teacher
Aromânii urmașii Grecii anticii limba aromână este din limbă greacă veche
Fals
Aromânii urmașii Grecii anticii limba aromână este limba greacă veche
"welcome my guests"
Ghini vinits oaspiti amei ( aromanian)
Ghini atz vinit oaspiti nei ( moldavian idiom)
Bine ati venit oaspetii mei( standard Romanian)...
limba veche ROMANEASCA A CIOBANILOR DIN TRANSILVANIA
Omule, termină cu afirmațiile astea nefondate și stupide. Nu vorbim română, ci ARMÂNĂ, o limbă balcanică romanică similară românei pentru că noi suntem vechii traci macedoneni iar românii erau geto-daci, adică un trib tracic.
@@saebica nu te ambala mai omule, din cauza asta aveti stegul cu cap de lup ca DACII. Am multi prieteni Armani si ei mi-au spus asta Armanule.
@@stelians5334 Care steag cap cu steag cu cap de lup???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Băi, nu mai inventați prostii. Steagul armânesc oficial de la Strasbourg este cel alb cu Soarele lui Macedon. Nu avem și nu am folosit niciodată lupi pe emblemele armânești, ci berbeci.
Prietenii tăi armâni ori sunt armâni fârșiroți care pentru bani se consideră români, ori nu își cunosc adevărata istorie, ci doar ce ne-au băgat românii comuniști în cap după ce au fost cumpărați de români în schimbul de populație din 1930.
@@Bogumilrum Vidzuiu..
Aromanian is not a dialect of Romanian. Case closed. Another thing: Aromanians adopted Bulgarian national identity by tens of thousands which should also ring a bell...
ajdeeee even aromanians are bulgarians?
whole balkan are bulgarians
Vlachs/Aromanians had a very important presence in medieval Bulgaria just as in medieval Serbia.
They didn't adopted, you forced them. They been forcibly bulgarianized.
Îs dialect romanian
AROMANIANS OR VLAHS❤🇷🇴🙏 =DACIANS OR ROMANIANS❤️🇷🇴🎖
Aromanians have nothing to do with Getae-Dacians.
We are Thracians.
@@saebica Aromanians talk romanian.
The Getae-Dacians are Thracians like Herodot said"the Dacians are the most bravest and rigteous to all Thracians.
Aromanians are not slav,greek or latin they are autenthic Getae-Daciens 100%
@@florinivascu5 Aromanians are not Greeks, Slavs, Iliryians, Turks ir Romanians.
We are the true Macedonians Thracians.
We all know what Romania and Greece's plans are to assimilate Aromanians. We know how much money Aromanians recieved in Romania to declare themselves Romanians.
We don't have any bit of Romanian dna similarities, so stop trying to propagate the same silly and fake stories
We know the people who are paid to spread fake information from The Romanian Academy that was built originally by Aromanians.
Genetically and historically, it's impossible for Aromanians to be related to Romanians because we've never lived together. We are both in Pindus mountains, not in the Balkan Peninsula.
Our languages are barely similar