WHY I HATE THIS WATCH! the PAGANI DESIGN PD-1701 “SPEEDMASTER“
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- For this quick Pagani Design watch review I discuss the idea of diminishing returns, and does this Pagani Design PD1701 Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch homage defy that idea?
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I grew up in Florida. Born in 1954 I was a Space Kid. In 1969 my mom and aunt went to Europe. Mom asked me what I would like her to bring back for me. I immediately said, "Omega Speedmaster watch." The day we landed on the moon she bought one in Zurich for $155.00. I wore the watch every day until 1980 when I was issued a Rolex Sea Dweller in military service. Thereafter I always wore the Speedy in July. It turns out the watch Mom bought was incredibly rare and as I am approaching 70 I sold it to arguably the world expert on Speedmasters. Guess what I bought. Three Speedmaster homage watches, two Paganis and the Phylida with the beautiful ST19 Seagull movement. Omega in my opinion, obliterated the magic of their masterpiece. The homage watches honor that masterpiece. Omega turned a Goddess into a cheap streetwalker in every respect and that was no small factor in influencing my decision to sell my watch, albeit at an astronomical profit.
If I could time travel I'd go back to the times where omegas and rolexes were priced like this haha. Not even just to sell bust because of how rare they are now!
Once you get over the “brand,” you realize this is a great watch for what it is. This was my first PD purchase…and I really dig it. Haven’t bought another model though…..yet!
They are remarkable what they deliver for the money.
it's downhill, I already have 5 homages in 2 months. LOL
@@rafaelmtoledo I have a plan for a video one day, looking at what if… what if instead on hundred-ish dollar Paganis, what could I have gotten instead.
@@MyWatchChannel a boring Fossil lol
You have hit the nail on the head my friend, that once you get over the 'brand' syndrome, i.e Chinese brand...you will realise that the Chinese CAN produce a worthwhile product at maybe a third of the price for an equivalent quality western brand. I have several P.D watches, and they are, yes essentially 'homage' watches (usually Rolex homages), but they are well constructed, use quality materials, are precise, and keep amazing time. They also are 'ringers' of top Swiss makes. I could go on, but never fear of purchasing this brand, they are a good watch...period.
I have the Speedy, also have the X33, the moons watch (mission to the moon) and the Pagani, as much as i love my Speedy, wearing it makes me uneasy, so I will often thrown the Pagani on, because to all intents and purposes its the same, well apart from I dont need to wind it, and the chrono complication. Basically what I’m saying is if you love the Speedy and all it represents then the the Pagani captures 98% of it. The weird thing is once you get over buying this you will look at the Daytona homage, (it was the sale and it was silly money), the Tudor Black bay (I just like the hands honest) the orange Doxa (I like the colour) the Steeldive SD1970 (I like Apocalypse now)…. Basically it’s a gateway to a universe where you can fulfill your dreams. Pop on a Submariner on Monday, a Daytona on Tuesday, a Doxa on Wednesday and a Speedy on Thursday. Be careful people, you might get addicted and you might question spending thousands on a single watch.
Great video, I hate Pagani too
Lol this is all too true. The X33 is a cool watch imho. Thank you for watching!
Funny, but so true!
I am sorry... But are you high?
Alright, fine. Like the Pagani Design, but I will never, *EVER* choose it over my Speedmaster. The Pagani captures jack shit.
I loose the ability to hand wind it every day, I let go the 3861 based on the legendary Lemania in favor of a modest VK63. I have to put up with Pagani's junk bracelet and let go the awesome new Speedy bracelet which is insanely comfortable and I have to look at the poor attempt to mimic the Speedmaster dial....
Love your Pagani or whatever, but don't sit here and piss down my back telling me it's raining.
And I am not even a big Omega fan, since in my humble opinion the Speedmaster is the only modern Omega worth owning.
I'm the type of guy that would choose Orient or Zelos over Pagani's junk any day.
@desireless4092 I bet you're fun at parties and I'm guessing you're single
I rarely reply to YT videos, but this was shot and edited beautifully! Kudos to you sir!
Thank you very much!
I love my Pagani collection of homage watches... especially my daytonas.... I have 12 of them... the Steve McQueen, the platinum Ice... the All Black..
Thank you, yes my PD Paul Newmans are 2 of my regulars, I love em!
Stainless, Saphire domed crystal, solid end links stainless steel bracelet with milled clasp, and good workmanship, all for under $100. I bought 2 different color schemes.
Yup this model is really remarkable.
I got mine during the Amazon two day sale for $76** Love it…!! 🥳
Love my PD1701,
The funny thing is 1701 is the starship enterprise number, maybe intentional 😁👍
Ooo you’re right not sure how I missed that!
Ding! I never connected the model number with the Enterprise. Genius and certainly intentional.
I think PD does do us, ordinary people, a great service. And who knows, when you fall in love with the design, you might buy the real deal. It beats the quality of the Moonswatch in every aspect, that's for sure!
Great video. My mate had recently bought the Moonwatch which i had considered myself. The lack of availability and subsequent reports of poor quality put me off. I bought the PD1701 V3 on Amazon Prime Day for £80 substantially cheaper than a Moonswatch. When my friend returns from working away, im looking forward to us sitting down and cimparing the watches. Being an owner of two Omegas, it astonishes me how good the Pagani is, imagine what they could do if they were budgeting for a £1k retail...
They are very good, I’m not sure what could be improved at a thousand… mechanical movement, solar?… that’s about it I think. Thanks for watching!
@MyWatchChannel it's an excellent video, solar, better finishing on bracelet, ant reflective coating and better lume. Job done.
Well, I wanted to buy the Moonswatch, but there is no Swatch shop within 500 miles and I refused to pay scalpers. So I bought the Pagani mission to Alaska. And I was blown away. Sapphire crystal, not plexiglass, stainless steel, not plastic, ceramic bezel, not plastic. Unbefreakinglieveable.
And I bought the Daytona. Again, I was blown away. And I bought the 57 Speedy, the Black Bay, the gold Speedy, the Aquaterra, a number of Seamasters, the IWC Pilot, the Max Bill... Basically all my dream watches. And apart from the shockingly bad lume, the rest is more than acceptable and you wonder, why you have to kiss a Rolex dealer's feet and pay through the nose, when you get 98% of the Rolex for 5% of the money.
It really highlights what can be done for little money, I will be working on a video comparing a Chinese copy vs the real thing, where physically EVERYTHING is identical, but yet why there is still a massive price gap between em.
@@MyWatchChannel Marketing, advertisement, dealer profit, comany profits, shareholder profit, sponsorships, marketing, advertisement and profit. Rolex would be mad not to charge whatever they can and more to fleece their buyers pockets.
Oh, yes - and better lume!
I bought a Pagaini in protest to the rediculous way the Moonswatch has been marketed. 8 months on with weekly wear and the Pagani looks just as good as the day I recieved it!
It’s absolutely the MoonSwatch MoonSwatch should have made. Thanks for watching!
@@MyWatchChannel Lets be real, if Omega or Swatch put something out like this PD, it would cannibalize and destroy the entire Speedmaster market haha. In the end I still prefer the MoonSwatch, despite its flaws. It's a real Speedmaster (says so on the dial :P). And that Swatch "fun factor" can not be denied. Unlike the PD, It will never be confused for anything else by those who know watches.
You are completely right, thank you for watching! sorry if I implied it could be. To be clear(and I have stated in other videos and will continue to do so) I am NOT a fan of these companies making exact one for one copies of other brands designs. Their bread and butter imo, is when they use designs long abandoned decades ago by the original designers. Than they are fun inexpensive ways to enjoy vintage designs that really are unobtainable to all but a few.
The point of this video was to underline the idea of diminishing returns, and how that works and how sometimes… it may be seem unjustified.
Swatch and Omega need to be careful what they wish for. Creating a massively succesfull hype is all well and good but implement the customer experience baddly and there is always someone else prepared to step in and profit at your expense.
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PLASTIC COPY OF OMEGA MOONSWATCH is another way used by SWATCH to give us garbage and is NOT CHEAP Thinking of that i prefer PAGANI DESIGN PD 1701 because is not garbage like plastic watches and mine is still working YOU CANT OPEN AND REPAIR SWATCH GARBAGE PLASTIC WATCHES.
Thank You Mr. Hayek. Now I have a Moonwatch, a Speedy, a Alaska Projekt and a Speedmaster 57. All from PD🎉
Wow! What a great production! I love it! Well done 🙌
Thank you very much! I’m working on it, I hope they just keep getting better.
I googled how much $155 USD from 1969 would be in todays money . Allowing fir inflation etc etc .... $1300 approximately. Actually it was a little less . So back then if you wanted to buy a luxury watch & had a basic job you could save within a realistic time frame & buy one . And yes back then most cheap watches weren't that great . Now the prices are at polar extremes , but the quality vs the price is not comparable . The Seiko powered Pagani will give you reliability without servicing it for decades , only an occasional battery change that really anyone can do at home for a few bucks . And if it gets stolen or damaged , buy another one & your still light years ahead . 😃
My man. This was a beautifully shot and edited video. I couldn’t agree more with your views in this. Subbed.
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Stunning review
Thank you!
The PD-1701 is Pagani's masterpiece. It is excellent in terms of both quality and value. Like this RUclipsr, it turned me off on the idea of ever spending thousands upon thousands of dollars for a "luxury" watch...not because I'm cheap, but because those watches simply are not worth what they cost. Well, not to me, anyway. Hats off on this video. Well done.
Thanks for watching
Great video! As a gen Speedmaster owner, the moment they did release the Moonswatch, I wanted to buy it immediately. However, due to big demand it was not available. So after some time and rather by accident I stumbled across the Pagani PD1701. That is simply an INCREDIBLE watch. 1/3 of the MoonSwatch price. Wearing it, people have asked me what brand of watch I was wearing... So no more comment. The Moonswatch is a piece of plastic junk. Designed by some PR- office sluts to make money for a company. But you need to admit. They succeeded. With a lookalike piece of plastic junk.
They sure did
Great video! Yeah, I hate them too cos I keep wanting to buy “Just one more watch….” 😩
I completely understand!
It's a good offer for a good price. I thought about buying the moon swatch but hesitated about the used material and the price tag. It's feeding license givers and the system of in-between dealerships. And the Pagani do not fake being an original. It's a copy and a well-made one.
I love this watch and have it, had a Real Omega speed master in the 90s, to heavy and kept having trouble with it, it was traded in to have an old Croton aviator sea diver fixed.
I also have the PG design Pepsi GMT, and just got the Panarai frogman version too..!! All are Very Nice. ✅
The Croton sounds amazing! Thank you so much fore watching.
Imitation is the highest form of praise. I'm sure neither Swatch nor Omega are losing any sleep.
That is clickbait done right!
And, I fully agree with you
Thank you! Lol
Maybe we should also hate products that cost 10x what they should because they are an ostentation.
I kind of know what you mean. I have a weakness for the Speedmaster, seduced by its pedigree and heritage, and have paid a small fortune for a collection that I intend to pass on to my children. But I never wear one myself because it is impractical for my life, instead using a Seamaster Chronograph for the last 18 years. The MoonSwatch seems like a bit of fun, so I bought one and was seduced all over again by the appearance. That led me on to the Bulova Lunar Pilot (superb watch but similarly impractical) and the Pagani, a practical Moonwatch. And now nothing makes sense…
Sounds like a great collection!
Mine comes in Friday
Might pick up a few more for that $$
Thanks for sharing
New watch days are always great! Enjoy!
The watch world changed in 1969 (coincidence?) with the first quartz watch. A true revolution. Now I can witness a new revolution: Good watches for reasonably price from China.
This. Is. Brilliant.
yes indeed , i bought 2 tag monaco homages from specht and sohne they are simply fantastic 80 euro as opposed to 7000 euro. and well its simply a no brainer, yes i love the real thing and could but im not daft enough to drop that sort of cash on a watch that is likely to loose its value over time. pagani are pretty good at this game. i also have the Pagani version -IWC portuguiser and thats really very good, & where it all started for me. the collecting just seems to keep going. .....😏
I’ve been considering that iwc version. Thanks for watching!
I sat down a few years ago and compared my Sub to a San Martin 'homage' - Ummm? With tax the Rolex was $8,500 the San Martin $150. The San Martin came with a NH35 movement that I regulated and adjusted to +2 seconds per day. No beat error. I would say in finishing and fit the San Martin was 85% of the Rolex - San Martin has gotten better since then. Soon the better Chinese brand will do what the Japanese brands did in the 60's and 70's.
Yes! When the Seiko 62 MAS first came out people called it nothing but a cheap Japanese Blancpain copy… I have a few San martins(I will film this summer) 2 are Rolex copies a small crown an Milsub… their great!
Mine arrived with no dots at the 12 marker! Small dots but iconic!
I own it. smells like a speedy, tastes like a speedy. beautiful watch $80.
Thanks for watching!
I've got this model (strap model)today for USD50.00
There are some crazy deals right now, I picked up the “57’” version for about the same.
The pd speddy is awesome Watch ,where quality is not mád whith the price it has .
Really an excellent video. Thank you!
Thank you so much!
I just tried to pick one of these up on ebay and the bezel markings were circular in orientation…. I want one but now I think the copies are being copied….
I have the money to pay for it but i dont know where to go to get a “real” pagani…
Jeez that’s irony….
That’s crazy I have always had good luck with amazon(I prefer because for the U.S. returns are a breeze) but have also gotten em from AliExpress thru their official store.
That is not true, it is not a copy. I have one and the orientation is like that, pagani design told me by aliexpress that they recently decided to change the orientation.
Genuine Review.
The bezel is different the ones I've found online. Is this an older model. I like it better than what I've seen available now.
It is the latest version. They corrected the hands, and there may be other differences as well.
One correction the PD-1701 V3 does not have a screw down crown 3:06. Also, the pushers are not, but I still consider it the best overall homage to the original at this time. The market is changing for sure by makers like PD. *Correction! It Does have a screw down crown! Leaving my mistaken comment up because like MyWatchChannel stated 'You need to question everything!" :)
Mine IS screw down crown(I had to just check after reading this… did I mis-speak? Nope it’s a screw down crown, obviously the pushers are not).
@MyWatchChannel You are so correct!. I just pulled it off my wrist and yep! LOL I'm too use to all of my automatics and the VK63 only needing a date change every now and then I forgot! Apologies
Oh it’s no problem! It wouldn’t have surprised me!
This watch really does make the moonswatch look completely absurd. I'm glad I never bought one, though like most people I was facinated by the whole thing. I just couldnt justify the price for what was clearly a cheap plastic quartz toy, with a dozen things wrong with it. The very definition of buying a "name" or "brand". There isnt a single redeaming quality of that watch, except its name. But this.. This watch actually delivers. Tremendous value, it's better in every meaningful way, and at half the price. This is a moonwatch worth getting.
Agree with all of this
Great Video, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
First vid I’ve seen from you, and you’re an immediate sub. Bravo!
I appreciate that! I’m working on making em better an better. Thank you
I won’t buy a moonswatch on the secondary market, and I don’t live near a swatch store, Swatch can go away for all I care, Have a pd-1701 being delivered tomorrow, my protest to swatch!
Having both… the 1701 is simply better.
Pagani Design and San Martin are so successful with their homages because watch brands like Omega and Rolex have lost their way. The Speedmaster was always a very special tool watch, and Omega could have done so much with it. Instead, they turned it into an increasingly luxurious product without significantly improving it.
Omega could have taken the opposite approach. In the 60s, you could have had a Speedmaster for the equivalent of $1500 to $2000 today. With technological advances, there could be a $1000 or even $750 Speedy, alongside higher-end models. Imagine a $750 quartz Speedy with radio syncing, solar power, decent water resistance, and a nice steel case. We could have that! For customers who prefer a mechanical movement, a more expensive option could be available.
A gold Speedmaster, however, is probably something that should not even exist. Omega needs gold DeVilles, but a tool watch like the Speedmaster? Why? Which hypothetical astronaut or race car timer needs that? The modern world needs my hypothetical quartz Speedmaster more.
@@cunawarit watches, and their various price points\value for money is interesting to me. Thank you for watching!
Love ‘em
Enjoyed this commentary style review. Left a sub!
Thank you! There’ll be more on the way.
love this video and how you wrote it.
Love your presentation
The PROBLEM with video's like these is the woe is me comments like THE REAL OMEGA SPEEDMASTER is a ripoff.We all can't afford a watch you can pick up in slider new condition for $5000-$6000 depending on version.That's bull crap I would venture to guess most people in this comment section have 4 wheelers they spent more on,Full size pickups they borrowed 60k for, gun collections they have thousands into and wife's jewelry they have spent more on.These comments just show you have no REAL APPRECIATION for the authentic and the history and thought that went into the original and convince no one that's in the know a $93 watch can in anyway compete with thee ORIGINAL!!!!!!
This is the best video I ever seen
Wow…. Thank you!
Yeah man, beautifully shot beautifully narrated. And most importantly it makes me question everything.
I got one,I love it!
would it be cool if a taikonaut wore one in space
It would be a slap in the face to Omega… highly unlikely though.
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Great video!!!
Thank very much! I’m working on it, stay tuned for more.
"Affordable and Fun"...Moonswatch, they are Omega in name only and the only reason they may carry that name is because of company nepotism. They are ridiculously overpriced for the abhorrent quality they offer. The price gauging and broken promises about attainability through online sales made the fun dry up in the purse. They were regarded as a rebellious statement to the overpricing and nefarious sales tactics by the propper brands, but overnight turned to the dark side of the moon. Pagani is neither a moonswatch, nor an Omega and unlike the moonswatch it doesn’t claim to be an Omega, but by the gods of time it is lightyears closer to being a proper watch than the overhiped space debris called Moonswatch. What's more, you can buy about three of them for the price of one moonswatch. Shaking the religion just comes as a bonus.
Only stupid people can hate something. I am so sorry for you.
I guess you missed the point. I love it. Thanks for watching though!
You really need to take a drink of water before you hit record
This is good advice.
The omega swatch is a piece of sh… cost probably 10$ to make. Pagani does copy it but at least you get your money well worth it
You are 💯
these are not watches, just a trend . a trend , that every one here on youtube ''works'' for them . the ''promoters'' on youtube should claim money for their services on pagani ...
Seiko and their original 62MAS was equally hated in its day, seen as a cheap Japanese knock off a BlancPain.
Oh you’re probably right, I know the Paganis are wildly popular, and cheap to get for the sake of making videos. One thing you’ll never hear me say is in the description is a link to an AliExpress store and if you use code mywatchchannel, or here’s my Amazon affiliate link…!everyone of those “creators” are just QVC sales people.
I have problems with a few PD watches… BIG ones. Those videos will be coming.