Small Planes Over Big Oceans (ETOPS Explained)

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  • @Wendoverproductions
    @Wendoverproductions  7 лет назад +1820

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    • @aaihamm
      @aaihamm 7 лет назад +11

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      @justintorre694 7 лет назад +2

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    • @Alex-ul5bp
      @Alex-ul5bp 7 лет назад +3

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    • @kylenetherwood8734
      @kylenetherwood8734 7 лет назад +1

      I prefer bitesize videos personally

  • @marxismpotato
    @marxismpotato 7 лет назад +3043

    "Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim"
    ayy

    • @neelparmar6690
      @neelparmar6690 7 лет назад +79

      Somehow I think that passengers wouldn't get the chance to swim either way...

    • @qwerty112311
      @qwerty112311 7 лет назад +49

      Neel Parmar engines go and a plane turns into a big glider, which can be smoothly put down on an ocean. Probably wouldn't be able to swim anywhere, but they'd be able to swim.

    • @noob.168
      @noob.168 7 лет назад +26

      dw. you'll learn how to swim when ur life is in danger. ;)

    • @farhanw3679
      @farhanw3679 7 лет назад +7

      yo im learnin

    • @dave5194
      @dave5194 7 лет назад +29

      qwerty112311 Except water landings are still pretty risky, despite the fact that the planes look like it would work well. Think about it: the plane id coming down fast, near the water level it will experience a lot of turbulence and the plane won't be very stable. The plane also has a wide wingspan. This is the most dangerous part. If one of the wing tips catch the water, the plane immediately cartwheel & of course it's the ocean, so the waves aren't always calm. Ignoring all that you still have to touch down right so that you slow down rather than skip and risky the plane tearing itself apart. It takes a lot of precision to land a plane on the water.

  • @tonyle72
    @tonyle72 5 лет назад +676

    Now I know why it's taken over a year to get Southwest Airlines certified for flights to Hawaii. There's more to it than just the airplane.

    • @joe8124
      @joe8124 4 года назад +17

      Southwest flies to Hawaii? This is news to me.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 4 года назад +21

      @@joe8124 they started in May, but had planned them for years.

    • @hassebrasse7210
      @hassebrasse7210 4 года назад +1

      Why tho? There are zero divertion airports anyways.

    • @johnduffy2777
      @johnduffy2777 4 года назад +5

      HasseBrasse engine failures are rare and it unlikely that both engines will fail

    • @imjashingyou3461
      @imjashingyou3461 3 года назад +8

      @@johnduffy2777 both engines fail even then 99% of the time at cruising altitude that plane will glide for 100 to 150 miles up to an hour before you hit the ocean. Giving time for rescue craft to get up and in the area or an attempt to make it to land. Thats if you can keep an single engine going for another hour or even half hour you can go pretty far.

  • @aghanr
    @aghanr 6 лет назад +3472

    a year from now "This Wendover Production video, was made possible, by Boeing. Get your own 777-300ER from Boeing."

  • @JoelJames2
    @JoelJames2 4 года назад +301

    5:39 That awkward moment when the delay due to a failed engine mid flight is shorter than a normal American Airlines delay.

    • @zangrygrapes4571
      @zangrygrapes4571 10 месяцев назад +1

      That airline was American airlines tho

    • @someone-wx4ww
      @someone-wx4ww 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@zangrygrapes4571yes that’s the joke

  • @garydunken7934
    @garydunken7934 5 лет назад +242

    7:30 That puppy plane A318 was so cute. Its wings are so tiny, but tail appeared slightly bigger relative to the size of the fuselage.

    • @Rilex037
      @Rilex037 5 лет назад +16

      lol, yea, dimensions of the wings are the same as much larger a321; never the less, this planes handles like crazy, try watching approach at EGLC

    • @hassebrasse7210
      @hassebrasse7210 4 года назад +1

      Looks like a mini-380

    • @DarkwearGT
      @DarkwearGT 4 года назад

      Gei

    • @theodoreeicher4879
      @theodoreeicher4879 4 года назад +7

      the a318’s tail is actually slightly taller than the other a320 series planes

    • @NatureXwars
      @NatureXwars 4 года назад +2

      The OG 737-100 looks cuter imo, with its sleeker appearance & dinky engines.

  • @mikebronicki6978
    @mikebronicki6978 4 года назад +287

    "Sydney to Santiago" route will just crush the argument of many flat earthers.

    • @sargismartirosyan2803
      @sargismartirosyan2803 4 года назад +2

      Why

    • @mikebronicki6978
      @mikebronicki6978 4 года назад +41

      @@sargismartirosyan2803 oh, one of the flat earther arguments is "Why are there no direct flights from Australia to South America?" You see, if you look at a polar centered map of the earth, the distance from Australia to South America is about 20,000 miles, lol.

    • @klondiker9
      @klondiker9 3 года назад +36

      Yeah... but they usually say that that route doesn't exist and no matter what you say they don't budge from their opinion. They usually go with "you can buy a ticket, but the flight always gets cancelled" etc. Its pretty dumb

    • @Gautier-cw9bu
      @Gautier-cw9bu 3 года назад +16

      @@klondiker9 some of them even say australia doesn't exist because of that

    • @prplt
      @prplt 3 года назад +4

      they say it's because of the winds 😂

  • @DSB1234567890
    @DSB1234567890 6 месяцев назад +13

    That bit about BA flying an A318 from New York to London City is nuts! It ended around the pandemic. Some fun facts about that flight:
    - The airplane was configured all business class with only 32 seats
    - Due to the short runway at London City, it had to take off partially fueled and refuel in Shannon. This wasn't an issue leaving from New York.

  • @tabel4844
    @tabel4844 4 года назад +115

    I wouldn't categorize the 787 as "small"

    • @wolfodonnell8515
      @wolfodonnell8515 4 года назад +32

      It's certainly not small, but it is smaller than a 747 or 777.

    • @masonsilvers6789
      @masonsilvers6789 4 года назад +2

      I say it's big
      And if a plane wore pants, how would it wear them? (Yeah this is a reference to a HAI vid, and Sam (from wendover) owners HAI)

    • @the_bottomfragger
      @the_bottomfragger 4 года назад +12

      It's not small but if you see it next to 777, A340 or even A330 at the airport it really does seem small.

    • @KasabianFan44
      @KasabianFan44 4 года назад +6

      BottomFragger
      The A330 is roughly the same size tho’

    • @NatureXwars
      @NatureXwars 4 года назад

      Ppl seem to have forgotten about the 767 for comparison...

  • @heaneymusic
    @heaneymusic 7 лет назад +4447

    The plane fetish continues!
    *Don't stop.*

    • @elmozwrldtaken
      @elmozwrldtaken 7 лет назад +33

      Ugh
      ugh
      ugh
      ugh

    • @glowmobile596
      @glowmobile596 7 лет назад +12

      Joshua Heaney ;) ;) I like Planes and their shapes ;)

    • @hainguyen6514
      @hainguyen6514 7 лет назад +46

      yeah, just from these videos I realize how interesting aviation can be.

    • @dimaignatiev6370
      @dimaignatiev6370 7 лет назад +1

      They keep reducing the plane engines amount for travel across the Atlantic,till one will crash to the ocean...

    • @ruk2023--
      @ruk2023-- 7 лет назад +10

      You have the wrong perception of this altogether. A single jet engine in the latest model range has the same power as all four engines on an early 747 so they don't need more engines to keep it moving and they are so reliable once up to cruising altitude that you or I will never see an engine failure even if we flew weekly for the rest of our lives. Most planes have done 15,000 cycles and hundreds of thousands of hours of flying time without a single engine failure.

  • @Oscar-ng1ue
    @Oscar-ng1ue 7 лет назад +407

    Can you talk more about long haul planes such as the 787, 777 and the new a350 XWB

    • @thomasg7255
      @thomasg7255 7 лет назад +20

      I would be positively surprised about a video from Wendover that spends any longer amount of time covering Airbus planes.

    • @ezez4205
      @ezez4205 7 лет назад +11

      Its XWB mate ;)

    • @uyhu24
      @uyhu24 7 лет назад +2

      Xtra Wide Body that way you wont confuse it :P (im not sure if x is for xtra but wb seems simple enough)

    • @everythingthatrhymeswithsa3116
      @everythingthatrhymeswithsa3116 7 лет назад +2

      The new one was showed before

    • @762rk95tp
      @762rk95tp 7 лет назад +5

      Honestly when it comes to kinda long haul planes A321LR, part of A320neo family might take this small planes long range thing to another level. Narrow body that can do a lot trans-Atlantic traffic. Doesn't go extreme distances A350, 787 or 777 can go, but still respectable 4000nmi.

  • @DoubleGauss
    @DoubleGauss 5 лет назад +806

    Why is the A319 crossing the Atlantic such a big deal ? Charles Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic on a flying lawn mower.

    • @ianbuchan1793
      @ianbuchan1793 5 лет назад +74

      D-Gauss but without passengers

    • @BigBango_01
      @BigBango_01 5 лет назад +46

      @@ianbuchan1793 Pretty sure lawnmowers are a lot lighter than gas turbine yard trimmers

    • @MisteurCraft
      @MisteurCraft 5 лет назад +50

      Well...
      - Passenger number is over 100 which means the plane is much heavier and having enough fuel can become a serious issue.
      - Lindbergh flight was really dangerous, FAA wants commercial planes to be as safe as possible. Meaning that whatever happens during flight the plane can still land safely.
      On moderne small twin engines, those issue were mainly solved by using new generation engines that features high fuel efficiency, thus defining new standards for those type of flights.

    • @jesperlett
      @jesperlett 4 года назад +32

      He was the first who didn't die trying

    • @12345fowler
      @12345fowler 4 года назад

      It is certainely no big deal, who told you that ?

  • @DanielSRosehill
    @DanielSRosehill 10 месяцев назад +4

    Brings back great memories of sitting in a field in Ireland with a VHF receiver listening to aircraft zooming overhead at FL350+ being handed off for their oceanic clearance. Never knew there were different ETOPS variants or how much they changed the world of travel. Fantastic video - thank you for putting it together!

  • @CowHenry
    @CowHenry 7 лет назад +194

    Ha! Engines Turn Or Passenger Swim.
    Damn, smooth as fuck.

  • @kyleb3580
    @kyleb3580 7 лет назад +629

    I wish people would stop saying this guy has a plane fetish. He's likely a pilot or an aviation technition. He's passionate about it and that's awesome.

    • @f0rc3U
      @f0rc3U 7 лет назад +84

      Kyle B definitely not a pilot, as there have been some serious mistakes in the previous videos (eg that "most thrust is generated from the engine core")

    • @kyleb3580
      @kyleb3580 7 лет назад +26

      What video was that? I'm not doubting you, I just would like to see the video for context. It depends on what type of jet engine he was talking about. If he was talking about a turbojet engine, then he would be right as all of the thrust does indeed come from the core. However, if he was mentioning a turbofan engine, then you would be right as the core basically runs the fan, which generates about 80% of the thrust.

    • @5t757
      @5t757 7 лет назад +18

      Kyle B He's neither mate he's only 19 years old

    • @kyleb3580
      @kyleb3580 7 лет назад +37

      My cousin is 16 and he's a pilot. What's your point?

    • @benjwgarner
      @benjwgarner 7 лет назад +20

      +Kyle B Even then it doesn't make sense. The core is the ONLY source of thrust in a turbojet (so "most" isn't appropriate). An extremely low bypass ratio turbofan could work like that, but the bypass ratio would have to be less than 1. I'm not sure if anything like that exists, except perhaps on some very early turbofan engines.

  • @robertbalazslorincz8218
    @robertbalazslorincz8218 4 года назад +128

    ETOPS=
    Extended-range
    Twin engine
    Operational
    Standards
    Also ETOPS=
    Engines
    Turn
    Or
    Passengers
    Swim
    How convenient

    • @nonami_066xswqoqowiwl
      @nonami_066xswqoqowiwl 3 года назад +1

      S M A R T K I D
      VERY ORIGINAL COMMENT HUH? BITCHASS

    • @BB-lh1jg
      @BB-lh1jg 3 года назад +2

      @@nonami_066xswqoqowiwl Why the hell you pissed?

    • @polishraspberries
      @polishraspberries 3 года назад +2

      @@nonami_066xswqoqowiwl he just copied what was in the video...
      what's wrong with that?

    • @VGF80
      @VGF80 3 года назад

      You left out the word 'performance' below the word 'operational'

  • @Rushmore222
    @Rushmore222 3 года назад +16

    FAA: You can't fly transatlantic with only two engines.
    Charles Lindbergh: Hold my illegal beer.

  • @cathal341
    @cathal341 7 лет назад +523

    Just curious, do you have some education in aviation because you explain these videos extremely well? Or is your research process just that concrete? Either why I'm a bit of an aviation nut so these videos are super interesting to me so keep up the great work!

    • @cityuser
      @cityuser 7 лет назад +63

      It's just a lot of research, I highly doubt he has any special education.

    • @btafan11
      @btafan11 7 лет назад +53

      Actually, he skips a lot of research and his videos are riddled with errors. He's good at BS'ing

    • @manikrn007
      @manikrn007 7 лет назад +16

      Can you cite an example please. I just subscribed. But if this is the case, I will definitely unsubscribe.

    • @btafan11
      @btafan11 7 лет назад +57

      The title's wrong, for starters. Twin engines are used for planes of all sizes, not just "small" ones--it's like he forgot about the 777! His history of ETOPS and plane design is oversimplified, but I'm not going to bother analyzing it after I watched the one about why planes don't fly faster. That one was total garbage, he got the engines used on certain planes totally mixed up and said most of the thrust comes from the engine core as opposed to the bypass (plus many other glaring mistakes). And the ones where he analyzes plane revenue/costs are nonsense because he looks at just one example and then extrapolates everything from there.

    • @f0rc3U
      @f0rc3U 7 лет назад +36

      bta fan Yes, unfortunately you are 100% right. In the previous videos there were a lot of things that were absolutely wrong and badly researched, especially the point you mentioned with the thrust.
      However I really enjoy the videos, they are easy to watch and most of the things said are somewhat accurate.

  • @lewisdsd
    @lewisdsd 7 лет назад +238

    You should have mentioned the failure of the MD-11 as it was launched a few years before ETOPS certifications started.

    • @jameskoralewski3583
      @jameskoralewski3583 5 лет назад +9

      Do you know what ETOPS stands for? Engine turning or pilot swimming.

    • @jameskoralewski3583
      @jameskoralewski3583 5 лет назад +7

      Some 2 engine planes are ETOPS rated. Most 2 engine planes require a hydraulic driven electric generator to help provide electricity from the engine turning the aircrafts hydraulic pump if the power from one engine is lost. The ER designation at the rear of a planes type, like 777ER, usually means that the plane is certificated for EPOPS.

    • @texasabbott
      @texasabbott 5 лет назад +15

      The MD-11 failed mostly because of maintenance costs for the tail-mounted engine, specialized onboard and hangar equipment needed to reach it (that stupid built-in tunnel, work platform and cradle to lower the engine). Its fuel efficiency is quite good once the Performance Improvement Package was introduced to restore its advertised range. If it had a carrying capacity similar to the 747-400, bigger wings with split scimitar winglets, it would have had a better chance at survival.

    • @Willaev
      @Willaev 5 лет назад +8

      @@jameskoralewski3583 "Most 2 engine planes require a hydraulic driven electric generator to help provide electricity"
      The APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) is not hydraulically driven, it's hydraulically started. Once it's started, it runs on regular jet fuel.

    • @dpm-jt8rj
      @dpm-jt8rj 5 лет назад +5

      @@TheCannonofMohammed
      FX still has the MD11s and the DC10s (with a major upgrade on the flight deck). They are just as expensive to work on though.

  • @danikarathor7189
    @danikarathor7189 3 года назад +40

    The 767 is the first twin engine aircraft to fly across the Atlantic
    A300: am I a joke to you?

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 3 года назад +12

      He didn’t say it was the first plane to cross the Atlantic. It was the first plane to get ETOPS certification. The A300 operated under an ICAO 90 minute rule

  • @kylenetherwood8734
    @kylenetherwood8734 7 лет назад +239

    I'm always surprised at how interested I get by these videos. Keep it up.

  • @txrangerkidd222
    @txrangerkidd222 7 лет назад +68

    Yay! I'm so happy you addressed the BAW A318 flight, I always wondered how they were allowed to fly such a small twin over water.

    • @Spursy1994
      @Spursy1994 7 лет назад +8

      txrangerkidd222 it's all business class seats too. That's why. They wouldn't be able to fly a full aircraft there

    • @williamfall2214
      @williamfall2214 7 лет назад +15

      txrangerkidd222 also the a318 is the largest aircraft that has the 9 degree landing glide slope certification required for London City airport

    • @cityuser
      @cityuser 7 лет назад +1

      it's a great idea, if you think about it. put business class in one plane, economy in another. though they have business/first in larger planes as well, but.. you get my pont.

    • @MultiSnout
      @MultiSnout 7 лет назад +2

      unfortunately it isn't quite described accurately... BA flies the A318 to/from NYC via Shannon, Ireland. it is not non-stop between London and New York.

    • @txrangerkidd222
      @txrangerkidd222 7 лет назад +5

      From my research, it only stops in Shannon in one direction, and I think that's from LCY to NY so it can take off light and refuel while giving the passengers the opportunity to clear customs early.

  • @garethonthetube
    @garethonthetube 5 лет назад +3

    A couple of other points to add to an excellent video.
    1. The engines are much more efficient now so small twins have a far greater range than they used to.
    2.If a second engine fails, it is statistically likely that it will be for the same reason as the first failure, so it could mean all 4 failing on a 747. There are a few instances of multi engine failures due to maintenance errors.

  • @josefstalin9068
    @josefstalin9068 5 лет назад +20

    "This small rule is disrupting a multi-billion dollar industry"

  • @benuscore8780
    @benuscore8780 7 лет назад +180

    It's interesting that the person in the beginning isn't aware that there's a place called Hell in Norway, and it's pretty cold there, so technically, it's *already* a cold day in Hell.

    • @sion8
      @sion8 7 лет назад +22

      There's also Hell, Michigan, I'm sure it gets​ cold there as well.

    • @wishuhadmyname
      @wishuhadmyname 7 лет назад +1

      Ben_ Arkansas is also sometimes called hell

    • @koolaidjammers2747
      @koolaidjammers2747 6 лет назад +1

      wildchicken007 isn't that another name for Detroit

    • @smithsoniannationalmemearc3250
      @smithsoniannationalmemearc3250 6 лет назад +1

      *SEINFELD THEME INTENSIFIES*

    • @elchungo5026
      @elchungo5026 6 лет назад +1

      Big Boke no, it's really a city with like 300 people in it

  • @5bscs
    @5bscs 7 лет назад +407

    I'VE CLEARLY WATCHED THIS 9 MINUTE VIDEO IN 3 MINUTES

    • @marciosilva6770
      @marciosilva6770 7 лет назад +4

      Hockey King 8:56! You ARE the fake news. Worse than CNN

    • @akabyfamily586
      @akabyfamily586 7 лет назад +1

      Marcia Livia it's actually 8:57

    • @marciosilva6770
      @marciosilva6770 7 лет назад

      Why does it say 8:56 on my phone since you lot are getting 8:57?

    • @jeevad.tharan4179
      @jeevad.tharan4179 7 лет назад +5

      Its 8:56 you all are FAKE NEWS

    • @mellow6725
      @mellow6725 7 лет назад +4

      Marcio Silva it's 8:57, from what junkyard did you get your phone

  • @BillCraven
    @BillCraven 7 лет назад +1

    Your videos have done more to help me understand the airline industry than years of reading the business pages. Keep it up!

  • @darkstar795
    @darkstar795 7 лет назад +3

    Holy.. this video was beautiful!!! So informative, smoothly narrated, 10/10 glad I subscribed.

  • @multiio1424
    @multiio1424 7 лет назад +492

    OK, so someone needs to build an airport on the south pole so the A350 can legally fly there!

    • @bolmeinheign
      @bolmeinheign 6 лет назад +15

      multi io watch John Oliver's rant on visiting the south pole

    • @UhOhUmm
      @UhOhUmm 6 лет назад +82

      There are airports on Antarctica that A350 could land on, the problem is with the passenger recovery and the fact that the weather is brutal there. Also it's dark 7 months of the year.

    • @dylan522p
      @dylan522p 6 лет назад +7

      A350 would probably break flying there

    • @davidhonkstvorisit4811
      @davidhonkstvorisit4811 6 лет назад +3

      There is ice and snow airports

    • @AUmarcus
      @AUmarcus 6 лет назад +4

      Australia will be building a tarmac runway at Davis Station on Antarctica in the next fews years.

  • @canadianplanespotter
    @canadianplanespotter 7 лет назад +272

    Air Canada uses an A319 trans-Atlantic? Thug life :)

    • @gregersen1926
      @gregersen1926 7 лет назад +10

      Canadian Plane Spotter St. john's isn't a busy airport, I've been on that exact flight before.

    • @benhuang2773
      @benhuang2773 7 лет назад +10

      Canadian Plane Spotter
      Norwegian plans to use the 737 Max on TATL.

    • @ON-YT
      @ON-YT 5 лет назад

      I know you form somewhere

    • @CloroxBleach-um4gn
      @CloroxBleach-um4gn 5 лет назад +4

      BA uses A318 from LCY- NY

    • @rubenkober
      @rubenkober 5 лет назад +1

      BA operates A318 trans-Atlantic

  • @ericprice3225
    @ericprice3225 Год назад +3

    Just doing loads of research on this as the 787 I was on last week between London and Mexico City was diverted to Iceland after an engine failure. Within two hours I was on a bus to a hotel (2 hours drive away). Following day I was on a replacement plane continuing my journey while engineers worked on the failed aircraft.

  • @djlapio93litlebro
    @djlapio93litlebro 7 лет назад +28

    Now I feel safer to fly. Thanks Wendover Productions!

  • @Tyrannosaurus_Wrexx
    @Tyrannosaurus_Wrexx 7 лет назад +9

    As an aviation freak, I LIVE for these types of Wendover Productions videos! I'm in my happy place

  • @AceNallawar
    @AceNallawar 7 лет назад +87

    you are the only RUclips info-channel, which makes something I have never heard or seen

    • @iluvbaconOMG
      @iluvbaconOMG 7 лет назад +1

      Ace Nallawar life noggin.. asap science .. real life lore .. dumbass

    • @AceNallawar
      @AceNallawar 7 лет назад +1

      actually, most of the things they make, I already know, so, duh...

    • @afh7689
      @afh7689 7 лет назад +5

      Ace Nallawar Check out "Today I Found Out"

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer 7 лет назад +2

      ur so smart c:

    • @argis1342
      @argis1342 6 лет назад

      I know this is old, but try CGP Grey.

  • @marcuslanier1437
    @marcuslanier1437 6 лет назад

    I applaud your making of this video, it is entertaining enough to keep attention, explains everything in more commonplace terminology, and is most certainly not anywhere near being boring, like an FAA video. I enjoyed this very much. Thank you for doing it.

  • @cementer4life
    @cementer4life 6 лет назад +2

    I love this channel. great vids filled with obviously researched info. keep em going

  • @TemplarOnHigh
    @TemplarOnHigh 7 лет назад +103

    ENGINES TURN OR PASSENGERS SWIM XD

  • @candidcomment
    @candidcomment 7 лет назад +19

    Fabulously Co-herent and informative explanation of ETOPS !
    Great speaking voice , without any amateur stutter , fade or intonation issues ! BRAVO !!!
    This Video is at the" Great End ' of RUclips .

  • @pierce5881
    @pierce5881 7 лет назад

    Your videos are some of the most well put together and informative videos on RUclips. I hope you keep making content and branch out to all topics. I wish you made the documentaries we all had to watch in high school, I would have learned a lot more.

  • @thomasstarnes9943
    @thomasstarnes9943 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Black Box Down for the recommendation!

  • @Shankovich
    @Shankovich 7 лет назад +3

    I'm a performance engineer at Gulfstream. Awesome vid and well explained!!

  • @awabqureshi814
    @awabqureshi814 7 лет назад +20

    It's interesting that an Aeroplane video has the sponsor by name of "Hover"

  • @krisztiankormos2506
    @krisztiankormos2506 7 лет назад

    This explained so much. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this amazing video for us.

  • @realspacemodels
    @realspacemodels 7 лет назад +3

    Thanks for explaining ETOPS. I have watched several videos of pilots in executive jets or even prop-driven planes doing the North Atlantic crossing. The route they take includes stops in Iceland and Greenland for refueling. In each of the videos they are in contact with the North Atlantic crossing Air Traffic Control - though there is NO radar service on most of the route - and have been asked if they are ETOPS certified. I did not know what that was until now. Great video!

  • @sfranger50
    @sfranger50 7 лет назад +3

    What can I say ? I absolutely love it when I learn something about questions I have been asking myself for a long time. You demystified intercontinental airline routing for me. Thanks !

  • @bob2000and10
    @bob2000and10 7 лет назад +6

    Respect for not dragging this out to 10 minutes when it didnt need to be

  • @darkmatter3237
    @darkmatter3237 6 лет назад +4

    This is the best channel I’ve ever subscribed to. Keep up the great work.

  • @danwood5163
    @danwood5163 6 лет назад +27

    "There was no place for long and skinny routes between smaller cities" Connecticut to Portugal, PORTUGAL IS MY CITY

    • @elweewutroone
      @elweewutroone 4 года назад +3

      England is my city
      America is my city
      Australia is my city
      Etc. Etc.

  • @ejtipp4650
    @ejtipp4650 5 лет назад +3

    Dude, you make AWSOME videos! As an aviation enthusiast i just wanna let ya know i love what you do and thank you for it! Keep it up bro!

  • @nyceyes
    @nyceyes 7 лет назад +9

    These are very interesting and informative videos (take it from a technical person). Finally,... productions that are a race to the top, not to the bottom. Thank you for these wonderful videos. =:)

  • @nathanjaroszynski6210
    @nathanjaroszynski6210 6 лет назад

    thanks for sharing these videos about aviation. It's a really good place to start with understanding business, design and economy. Great!

  • @mra682
    @mra682 3 года назад

    Good video thanks for the upload. Clear audio and background effects were not overly dominant
    Thumbs up, i enjoyed it

  • @MidnightVisions
    @MidnightVisions 7 лет назад +8

    There are individual variations to the ETOPS clearances. Some airlines like Aloha 737's flying in between Hawaii and mainland USA had to run their APU engines over the middle of the ocean to cover the emergency power backup requirements of ETOPS. Some airlines didn't have to follow those rules as ETOPS clearances are not set in stone but a variable based on past maintenance practices.

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 4 года назад

      That must have used a ton of extra fuel. Your practically using 3 engines then except one doesn't produce thrust

  • @benmanning6649
    @benmanning6649 6 лет назад +31

    0:28 look at australia you couldn't fly over it in a twin engine plane

    • @soaringvulture
      @soaringvulture 4 года назад +1

      Cute. Maybe they could do it under Australian rules.

    • @AndrewSteitz
      @AndrewSteitz 3 года назад +1

      Except that the FAA has no authority over flights in Australia. I also wonder if there are “unconventional” landing areas in the middle of the country that could serve as emergency landing sites.

  • @fmn5917
    @fmn5917 7 лет назад +1

    And by the way, hats down to you for knowing so well the ETOPS and aviation rules. If you don't have an aviation background, you are really really impressive

  • @JaximusDecimus1
    @JaximusDecimus1 7 лет назад

    Great videos, man. Highly informative, to the point and entertaining. Keep up the good work.

  • @brooksallen3174
    @brooksallen3174 7 лет назад +5

    This video was amazing! Great job! Love, Love, Love the airplane vids!

  • @rohansroy
    @rohansroy 7 лет назад +5

    God I love these videos! I never knew how much I loved airplanes, and the air service industry!

  • @boxysquare
    @boxysquare 6 лет назад +1

    This answers every question I had going throuvh my mind when we were boarding the plane for Hawaii. Now I'll feel better on the trip back to the mainland. Thanks!!

  • @johnaroach
    @johnaroach 7 лет назад

    This is a great video! This answered many nagging questions I've had about plane configurations and routes for years. Thanks!

  • @YoungTheFish
    @YoungTheFish 7 лет назад +86

    I like planes. Chu-chu~

    • @noob.168
      @noob.168 7 лет назад +7

      I like boats. Beep Beep

    • @colbiesthename2875
      @colbiesthename2875 7 лет назад +1

      Boats actually do have horns tho.

    • @Poifect
      @Poifect 7 лет назад +15

      I like walking. Vroom-vroom~

    • @griytz64
      @griytz64 6 лет назад

      I like cars (Insert wha plane engines sound like)

    • @colbiesthename2875
      @colbiesthename2875 6 лет назад

      Kareth
      Brrrrrbrbrbrrrrrbrbbrbrbrbrbrrrr

  • @AlphaGametauri
    @AlphaGametauri 4 года назад +13

    Twin jets might be able to start doing long haul water routes with Skillshare.

  • @JavierCR25
    @JavierCR25 7 лет назад +1

    I always wondered about tri jets! Great video!! Amazing how aviation changes in so little time!

  • @pauljoshua768
    @pauljoshua768 5 лет назад

    A really well explained documentary. I learnt so much. Thank you and good work!!

  • @jamespatrick8245
    @jamespatrick8245 7 лет назад +107

    WengerOut

  • @DOTCurrency
    @DOTCurrency 7 лет назад +342

    >regulations not adapting to improvements in technology
    color me surprised

    • @littlep2000
      @littlep2000 7 лет назад +27

      To be fair they are adapting, albeit slowly. Though if any regulatory body has some extremely strict rules I'm pretty okay with the ones that handle the sending of people through the sky at 500 mph to be fairly cranky.

    • @FreedomLovin
      @FreedomLovin 7 лет назад +13

      Airlines themselves could handle all the regulations just fine on their own. The governmental regulations are just slowing progress and costing the airlines more money, which of course ends up with us paying more per ticket. If the government were not involved in regulating airlines, they would definitely do all of this themselves- because of the profit motive. One crash, and nobody would fly that airline, huge loss! Government regulations here are irrelevant and redundant, and clearly don't even work.

    • @stanleyguzman694
      @stanleyguzman694 7 лет назад

      DOTCurrency Lol k

    • @BikeHelmetMk2
      @BikeHelmetMk2 7 лет назад +20

      "One crash, and nobody would fly that airline, huge loss!"
      While that might work for the huge domestic ones, keep in mind there's around 5000 airlines worldwide. Not all will self regulate as effectively as you hope. And if they did have a crash, wouldn't the smaller ones (with no reserve funds and inadequate liability insurance) simply shut the airline down, sell its assets to another company, repaint the sold clunker jets and relaunch?
      The government regulations also act as protections against foreign airlines, since competitors slacking significantly on maintenance and safety cannot even land on our continent, short of an emergency. They have to meet certain basic guidelines... it keeps the playing field a bit more level. But you're right, it does add to the cost and slow down innovation.

    • @VanBurenOfficial
      @VanBurenOfficial 7 лет назад +4

      DOTCurrency "meme arrow" "reddit"

  • @karamu1
    @karamu1 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this, very informative and clear.

  • @JohnPurser99
    @JohnPurser99 7 лет назад

    Informative, concise, excellent production values and best of all no 'drama'! - Thank you

  • @FSXNOOB
    @FSXNOOB 7 лет назад +319

    NY to London with a A318??
    Like wtf... that's crazy ( and way to uncomfortable )

    • @bumblebee__
      @bumblebee__ 7 лет назад +151

      ᖴᔕ᙭ᑎOOᗷ - Gᗩᗰᕮᔕ & ᗰOᖇᕮ They use an A318 with an all-business configuration, so the passengets will be plenty comfortable.

    • @markuswendt4448
      @markuswendt4448 7 лет назад +71

      It's an way more expensive flight with only business class , it's for people who haven't the time to go to Heathrow which is located outside of the city and its less stress because the are not as many people like in Heathrow .

    • @Desertkid2000
      @Desertkid2000 7 лет назад +45

      Yeah, but then you wouldn't be flying out of London City Airport!

    • @nikkustikku281
      @nikkustikku281 7 лет назад +16

      Flugzeug Dokus You like the sound of crying babies a few feet back in economy?

    • @chrisbird1462
      @chrisbird1462 6 лет назад +14

      Its actually more comfortable

  • @BunsterByne
    @BunsterByne 2 года назад +5

    Here from Black Box Down

    • @flightsnotfeelings5867
      @flightsnotfeelings5867 2 года назад

      Same here even though I’ve watched so much more from Wendover. I highly recommend all of his videos.

  • @asd36f
    @asd36f 4 года назад +1

    Fascinating and informative - I had never heard of ETOPS before.

  • @urlilsolja
    @urlilsolja 7 лет назад

    I love learning more and more about the airline industry! Wow i truly learned something today! Thank you!

  • @thienLong7
    @thienLong7 Год назад +10

    Any1 from the tiktok guy

  • @edlcdmc
    @edlcdmc 7 лет назад +77

    For airplane navigation, would you kindly use a globe instead of a flat map? The distortion makes comparing distances difficult

    • @koverpy426
      @koverpy426 7 лет назад +19

      At least it is not Mercator.

    • @prepperjonpnw6482
      @prepperjonpnw6482 6 лет назад +2

      Get over it. You don’t need to compare distances while watching this video. Buy a globe yourself

    • @frostbitefgc155
      @frostbitefgc155 6 лет назад +4

      What's your issue? It's a simple, polite request that would make the videos more easily digestible. Chill the fuck out.

    • @imhamish
      @imhamish 5 лет назад

      This comment thread is so needlessly passive aggressive.

    • @TheCannonofMohammed
      @TheCannonofMohammed 5 лет назад +2

      Can ALL aviation enthusiasts PLEASE be friends? One planet, one people. We are ALL fellow passengers on this Space-Ship Earth (Gaia)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @inspire518
    @inspire518 6 лет назад

    Dude your videos are some of my favourite on youtube. Good job.

  • @johnbaglino2560
    @johnbaglino2560 6 лет назад

    I love your airline/ aviation content, please make more

  • @awuma
    @awuma 6 лет назад +4

    I'd love to fly across the Atlantic in a C-Series!

  • @AoiShoudou
    @AoiShoudou 7 лет назад +3

    As a Chilean, I'm very excited for the wide range of possibilities that the 787 brings to the table. I'm hoping Santiago - Melbourne is the first of the many new routes that would be opened.
    Do you think with the new 350 would be posible to do a route from South America to Asia? Like Lima - Tokyo?

  • @mrcannotfindaname
    @mrcannotfindaname 7 лет назад

    Very informative, impressive delivery

  • @OriolePublishing
    @OriolePublishing 7 лет назад

    Informative, Insightful, Engaging, even for a layperson like myself. I'm enjoying EVERY SINGLE video so thanks for the videos!

  • @732lover
    @732lover 5 лет назад +6

    Please do a video on the 737Max when enough information becomes available.

    • @soaringvulture
      @soaringvulture 4 года назад

      There's already enough information available: the thing don't fly.

  • @IHATESOOMUCH
    @IHATESOOMUCH 6 лет назад +26

    0:39 How did you made those ETOPS circles on the map? Does it work in google maps? Because I want to compare the range of different types of aircraft in certain cities.

    • @matahariamarulhaq4332
      @matahariamarulhaq4332 4 года назад +5

      There's a site called great circle mapper, gcmap.com that is able to do that

  • @bellaggio1770
    @bellaggio1770 6 лет назад

    Clear and concise, excellent presentation. Thank you

  • @vieuxbal1253
    @vieuxbal1253 7 лет назад

    What a fantastic job for explaining in such an easy way something that is in reality complicated for the average person. Maximum respect!!😊

  • @AbudBakri
    @AbudBakri 7 лет назад +244

    I will prove all the people who say I can't fly in my homemade *IRONMAN* suit wrong!!!
    Transatlantic here I come!

    • @AbudBakri
      @AbudBakri 7 лет назад +15

      Deal with it.

    • @AbudBakri
      @AbudBakri 7 лет назад +26

      Do it. I'll hire LawyerStickFigure.

    • @astrum097
      @astrum097 7 лет назад +3

      hello ubiqutious one

    • @pet3590
      @pet3590 7 лет назад +2

      Dr.StickFigure is omnipresent, is he the real god?

    • @benjwgarner
      @benjwgarner 7 лет назад +8

      Nah, the Iron Man suit has four engines: 2 in the feet and 2 in the hands.

  • @pomarekaire1344
    @pomarekaire1344 7 лет назад +41

    PLEASE do a video on the Boeing 747-8i vs Airbus A380

    • @CloroxBleach-um4gn
      @CloroxBleach-um4gn 5 лет назад +6

      pomare kaire I’m an airbus man but 747 wins

    • @mgmmj6664
      @mgmmj6664 5 лет назад +4

      @@CloroxBleach-um4gn airbus wins it's more safe

    • @CreeplexHD
      @CreeplexHD 5 лет назад +2

      I prefer Airbus but both are great airplanes. Sucks that the 747 is going to vanish in a few years.

    • @federico339
      @federico339 5 лет назад

      Litlle did you know @Wub

    • @CreeplexHD
      @CreeplexHD 5 лет назад +4

      Well, A380 is going to stay in service with Emirates for approximately 30 years from now, 747's are slowly but surely disappearing. It's time is sadly over, but it will never be forgotten.

  • @VanBurenOfficial
    @VanBurenOfficial 7 лет назад +1

    this is some of the best content on youtube, keep it up and tnanks.

  • @parimal7528
    @parimal7528 5 лет назад

    Wonderful & informative video. Thanks a lot for making it

  • @adityarao2827
    @adityarao2827 7 лет назад +5

    4:58 the mountain has a face :)

  • @gotthisusername
    @gotthisusername 7 лет назад +7

    What's the ETOPS number that we see on the Nose Landing gear door?

    • @fadimo305
      @fadimo305 7 лет назад +6

      John Leo it's not an ETOPS number, its what airlines call a "Fleet Identification Number" or aircraft number. It's Tail number is what identifies it to the government and the aircraft number is what the airline uses to identify its own fleet.

    • @musicISlyf1
      @musicISlyf1 7 лет назад +3

      its usually the last 2-3 letter(or number) of the airplanes registration number. Its like a license plate for planes.

    • @RB747domme
      @RB747domme 5 лет назад

      musicISlyf1 I wonder how often they get pulled over?
      "Licence and registration please sir. .. thank you..
      Is this your aircraft sir?"
      ".. Well, no, it belongs to my company..'
      "Ok, well all of your paperwork is up to date, but I did catch you doing 600, in a 550 zone.."

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 4 года назад

      @@fadimo305 Actually some planes do show ETOPS numbers

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 4 года назад

      @@musicISlyf1 Some planes do actually show ETOPS numbers

  • @etienneleroux6253
    @etienneleroux6253 7 лет назад

    Great vid - nice and concise explanation! Had no idea that was the inspiration for three-engine jetliners!

  • @greatvedas
    @greatvedas 6 лет назад

    wow! Very useful information. Appreciate the efforts behind making this video.

  • @ohauss
    @ohauss 7 лет назад +4

    So the question remains, though, if the fact that so many new connections can be offered, rather than posing a risk over the ocean, doesn't provide a massive additional risk in the vicinity of the destination. If even planes from North America now fly to London City Airport, that does provide a certain risk of increased low-altitude air traffic over London and with that the statistical probability of a major accident, given that take-off and landing are the most accident-prone phases during a flight anyway. Will Savile Row be retailored by an airplane as a consequence one day?

    • @jamesdinius7769
      @jamesdinius7769 2 года назад +1

      There are rules about how many aircraft can be in the low sky for landing and takeoff at any one time and flight plans are coordinated to keep under that limit. If a delay or other factor over-crowds the sky outgoing planes stay on the tarmac and if absolutely necessary incoming planes are diverted (very rare as outside the most extreme circumstances just delaying takeoffs can prevent it getting that bad).

  • @jaguarsparks3986
    @jaguarsparks3986 6 лет назад +4

    I never knew that the airbus family could cross the Atlantic Ocean. A318!! Thats incredible

    • @jameskoralewski3583
      @jameskoralewski3583 5 лет назад

      They usually don't use the A318, A320, or A321 airplanes on trips over the pond due to lower fuel capacity.

    • @RB747domme
      @RB747domme 5 лет назад +4

      JaguarSparks the A318 used by British Airways is a very special one, with larger fuel tanks and only 8 rows of four business class seats.
      It's all business class configuration, designed to land at London City Airport which is right next to the business downtown District avoiding the busy Heathrow which is 40 miles away.
      Also, on its way out from LCY it stops off at Shannon to refuel and get pre clearance for immigration so that by the time it lands in JFK it's a domestic flight. The business passengers literally walk off and go to baggage reclaim and straight out into their limos in literally 20 minutes.
      I've done it it's a lot of fun. It's actually a really comfortable flight to be on because it's so quiet and there's not that many passengers on board, with lie flat beds for all passengers.
      It's just like a large bizjet really.

    • @user-ky6vw5up9m
      @user-ky6vw5up9m 5 лет назад

      If I am not mistaken, it uses the old BA Concorde flight number BA001

    • @InfiniteHorizons
      @InfiniteHorizons 3 года назад

      Ian McGreevy Correct

  • @NZWolf
    @NZWolf 7 лет назад

    Thanks for this video. This is something i have wondered about for a while. You have enlightened my curious nature.

  • @jimpaulo830
    @jimpaulo830 7 лет назад

    Thank you for an educational and informative video.

  • @Hexigonic
    @Hexigonic 3 года назад +3

    4 years from now we are gonna find a way to put. A Cessna from New York to the Philippines .

  • @TheOtherNeutrino
    @TheOtherNeutrino 7 лет назад +16

    7:05 Anyone thinking of citing the Airbus A340 as Airbus' other quad jet, it's not in production while the A380 is.

    • @sxfstrummer
      @sxfstrummer 7 лет назад

      That's where my mind was going haha

    • @N0616JCProductions
      @N0616JCProductions 7 лет назад +1

      IMO, I would rather have Airbus do more with their A380 than the A340 as I think that A380 is much better in terms of the looks than the A340. From what I can tell, the A340 is just a A330 with four hair dryers being used as engines....

    • @sirBrouwer
      @sirBrouwer 7 лет назад +1

      N0616JC Productions the problem with the A380 is that for most airlines the size is just to big. especially for budget airlines who don't have hub systems but just fly directly to and from the actual destination.
      it's the same with the 747 they are also being cut down big time. they are like wise only used on the biggest routes and mostly used for there cargo capacity.

    • @FireboyHDGaming
      @FireboyHDGaming 6 лет назад

      He says in production and the a340 isnt in production anymore

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 4 года назад

      @@N0616JCProductions that's just the 200/300 versions which used CFM-56's. Modified 737 engines pretty much. The 500/600 use RR Trent 500 engines which are much more powerful

  • @MuturiKevin
    @MuturiKevin 7 лет назад

    This video was SO great! Never knew about this before, not even had a clue! More aviation videos please!

  • @arnoldmayii3563
    @arnoldmayii3563 7 лет назад

    Awesome video!! I learned a hell of alot from this, keep up the great work!!