Fixing Kanto's Gym Leaders (Gen 2)
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😅It's about time I finished the gen 2 gym leaders!
Next video will be on a different pokemon topic to mix it up!
Huge agree with Mewtwo, it shows that Red truly did conquer Kanto, and if you defeat him you did something pretty cool
Yeah, this final boss is holding nothing back at all now, the feeling you get for defeating him will be very sweet
Type specialists without type coverage when I show them a Thunderbolt TM.
All we need is Erika's mons to learn thunderbolt
8:30 I mean, she does become an actress in gen 5, so unintentional foreshadowing, I guess lol.
You're RIGHT! I've played the gen 5 movies last year and completely forgot she's an actress in them. (honestly enjoyed my time playing through those movies)
Oh yeah there is an event about it in pokemon masters
@@RoryTheFiend People crap on the movies a lot bc you have to go through the long tutorial, but I agree, they are really fun
@@davialmeida4442 Definitely underrated, pretty fun plot lines in them tbh, and the battle backgrounds are beautiful (which sort of highlights one of my few problems with gen 5 is the battle backgrounds look a bit plain)
What if Blue was actually Purple in disguise
He is neither Blue nor purple, he is.... Blurple
DUNN DUNN DUNNNNNN
@@RoryTheFiendor Violet
15:26 the AI will switch out if they are about to die to Perish Song as long as they have another Pokemon.
That's good to know! Either way I'm fine with changing out Perish Song with another move
Tho sometimes AI can be dumb with that move & use Perish Song while they only have 1 mon left. Like, for instance, I saw someone doing the Lance rematch & his Altaria did Perish Song when he couldn't switch out to a different mon because it was the last 1 remaining.
I remember that NPCs wont ever use Thief. They are programmed to avoid this move as much as possible.
Oh wow, I've never heard of that. Do you know the reason why?
@@RoryTheFiend I don't really know. I remember watching a video about Gen 2 AI and Thief was special
@@RoryTheFiend ruclips.net/video/Q6E6OaWb7LQ/видео.htmlsi=q0ICjqg_t3ryqWXN at 7:28 it's says they will always avoid Thief. However, this seems only to be the case for Smart AI. But since we are talking about Gym Leaders, they probably have Smart AI
@@RoryTheFiendProbably so players don’t lose irreplaceable held items
@@obambagaming1467 You know what, I saw this video, but yeah I forgot a lot, love this person's channel they do awesome work! I'm hoping they make more videos
I'd actually argue this is a case where I'd want to see these base game. Enhanced difficulty and strategy makes complete sense for a postgame, and makes the leaders actually meaningful rather than just EXP fodder before Red.
yeah of course, not wanting this to replace base games "normal difficulty", but as a hard mode if the games ever had those.
Using decent synergies and strategies should be standard in a hard mode, but also I think sometimes its nice to see gym leaders use strategies that arent necessarily top tier in their gen (gen 2 rain and sun teams) but from a perspective of having something different to fight against. I really appreciate things like that. Of course no matter what their levels are, they should be tougher to give any player some form of challenge.
Actual difficulty and strategy makes sense for the whole game.
Red with a Mewtwo goes hard tbh. A romhack with these teams would be pawesome
It makes sense as well, since it's typically the final thing players do in the original games This hard mode is going to properly test the player
Wait till you hear about Pokémon Crystal Legacy… (In terms of the Red thing anyway)
@@Cynda_909 I've not seen much about it but ya I heard about the Mewtwo change (though I got the mewtwo idea after a friend suggested it, either way it makes sense)e
@@RoryTheFiend It’s genuinely a pretty good rom hack of Crystal, it basically makes the gyms tougher but make more sense and it improves on the storyline as well in so many cool ways (especially the Team Rocket storyline) and overall it’s just really cool :)
full movesets? full evolutions? nooo this is not gamefreak approved
Game Freak When the 14th Gym leader isn't using onix, ryhorn and graveler with moves like fury attack and bind: NOOOOOO!!! 😭😭😭
@@RoryTheFiend meanwhile ilca giving the elite four full competitive sets
@@fred8422 I've not played BDSP but that's one of the things I've heard about it that made me happy
@@RoryTheFiend the whole game is a dumpster fire, imagine johto being weirdly easy and then spiking in difficulty on steroids. legit no difference from diamond and pearl then complete competitive sets for the elite four
@@fred8422 That's one thing they have that Game Freak don't.
Janine being a newbie excuse doesn't work when you realize Flannery is also in the same boat as her, but unlike her, she's actually still competent (in Emerald mostly).
Flannery with sunny day and overheat white herb is cool, it makes me wish game freak actually used different strategies, as her battle is really fun
Golduck is the best psychic type! Man I’m loving this so far man ^.^
Let's gooo! Golduck stocks are on the rise! I'm glad you're enjoying this, I am really really surprised I managed to finish the video yesterday, but I was on the grind for the past few weeks and it paid off!
Now go and enjoy your bank holiday! :p such a cool vid, love Red having Mewtwo
@@MrMetalBUGG Thank you, been a good chill day so faar! Yeah Red having a Mewtwo makes sense for a hard mode post game super boss, especially since it's unobtainable in gen 2!
Other than that, his team is too iconic or good to warrent a change
Why not give all Gym Leaders full Teams of 6? They're Post-Champion Bosses. Why not give them full teams?
I love all of these changes to the Kanto Gym Leaders in Gen 2. I’m looking forward to the next Pokemon videos you have in store!
Glad you like them! Was a lot of fun theory crafting again for gen 2, Erika's team particularly was hard, grass types really struggle gen 2
Golduck is the best Psychic type I know
in fact Golduck may be my favorite Psychic type ever
I am not being held hostage by Golduck to say these words
Golduck will be very pleased to hear this, I too love Golduck! my favourite water / Psychic type!
Always a delight to see one of these. I love how intricately you go into giving them moves and great reasons behind the choices. It's something more people should do, especially when it comes to giving Pokémon teams to other established characters (giving Aquaman a mono-Water team is the biggest cop-out ever XD).
Anyways, enough rambling. I might disagree with some of your choices in the series, but you're the guy who reminds me most of the way I like to approach Pokémon teams, and that's something I can't really say to a lot of people.
Keep up the good work and good luck in life 😊
I appreciate that, yeah I try and break down the moveset properly, giving Pokemon teams to non pokemon characters is interesting, dunno if I'd ever do it though lol
of course I expect to be a fair degree of disagreement, but I'm glad you dont just cuss me out saying im wrong lol. I believe there's many fair, fun and unique approaches to these team reworks and I'm always open to other peoples thoughts on how to approach them, many times I'll agree and would love to fight their versions of the gym leaders!
Thank you for your comment, really appreciate ones like these
cop in actually
Giving Surge a Lanturn as other comments have noted would definitely be a good change to his team (and it can be fished in Vermillion City no less!), so I think dropping it from Misty to give to him is a good idea. What I didn't see suggested was giving Misty a *Qwilfish* as an anti-Grass option instead of Lanturn - she's pretty heavily Special-based with your 5-member team, so swapping Lanturn out for another physical attacker would balance things out a little.
You could even tailor the sets slightly differently, going Lead Qwilfish (Spikes/Sludge Bomb/Swagger?/Surf - confuse the player to hopefully force a switch and take hazard damage) and swapping Sludge Bomb off of Setup Quagsire (Curse/Surf/Earthquake/Rest? (with a Mint Berry for longevity?)) to be something a little longer in the tooth, albeit with one less move making use of the boosted Attack from Curse?
Yeah I can agree with everything you said here, I do also like qwilfish for the spikes lead, only 1 layer max in gen 2 but it's something rarely seen in game so appreciate the ai using moves not commonly used by them
Thanks for the comment!
I think it's fair you gave Mewtwo the objectively worst hidden power type (even at it's highest base power) and make it the lowest level member on Red's team. Considering Johto's level curve and the gap between Blue and Red being quite the significant gap...yeah it makes sense for the only legendary Pokemon on his team and level 75 would still be quite a grind to reach. That said, at least HP has no impact on the pokemon's special and speed DVs, so I'll give you that.
So glad to see a new vid! I always enjoy your retrains of older teams, I can't wait for the next one!
Thank you! Well now I've done all of gen 1 and gen 2 gym leaders and elite 4, I'd like to do some gen 3 / 4 reworks at some point now
All hail Golduck, the best Psychic-type! (Also, nice team changes. I hope we get to see you fight them, like last time!)
Someone is already editing them for me, I'm very lucky to have people help me so quickly.
I will definitely stream the Kanto post game at some point, next week I'm wanting to stream Scarlet to play through it for the first time, but I'll try and see what I can do for the Crystal post game.
Giving the Electric Soldier Porygon to the Electric Soldier makes perfect sense
Love this. Someone needs to make a gen 2 romhack with all of your fixes used. Keep up the good work!
The johto section of the game has already been made into a romhack (its in my discord server) and someone is currently working on the Kanto half as well! I'll probably stream it at some point!
I’m so glad! The kanto gyms were so disappointing in those games
Facts, I can forgive it since it was still the early days for pokemon, and glad to see they got toughened up in HGSS
Should have given Starmie the full Surf, Psychic, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam moveset.
Yeah starmie does have awesome coverage moves, if this was hgss I might have done that and given it a life orb as well
I'd give surge lanturn instead of misty so he can counter ground and rock types better
Yeah I can see that, Surge with Lanturn would help a lot with those ground mons
Fixing Kanto's Gym Leaders (Gen 4) when
One day for sure! but I'm expecting either fixing Gen 4 leaders / Gen 3 leaders & or rivals before I consider visiting the Johto Remakes
7:52 a bit surprised you didn’t choose Lanturn but this is a very good team and a massive improvement over the original
17:25 oh now I see why you didn’t lol
Yeah I mean it'd help his team a lot of course, but I ultimately decided to give Misty one instead. would not disagree with anyone giving surge one tho
1:01:44 About the scope lens, since you gave it to like half the gym leaders the player could just thief one in advance. Similar case as white herb, only obtainable in the base game from Blaine's Magcargo (now unobtainable with your changes)
Yup that is true, thief lets you steal the trainer items permanently which is funny, and probably a reason why they didnt want to give trainers held items outside of the odd berry.
In terms of the White Herb, I think you're mistaken as white herb wasn't introduced until gen 3
@@RoryTheFiend yes, you're right, his magcargo does have a white herb but only in HGSS oops
Poor Espeon, always being replaced. Mewtwo is very fitting for the post-game superboss team though. I love your videos!
Yeah it just makes sense for a hard mode, espeon otherwise is a great regular Mon to be added to a boss fight, thank you I'm happy with how this one turned out and I'm excited to work on my next project!
You’ve redeemed yourself by giving Johto’s Pseudo Legend to Brock. Well done.
LOL I was waiting for a comment like this, thank you
Not sure if it was intentional, but you sounding like you were about to start laughing after Janine's GSC team really sums up players' reactions to that team
Yeah I write the script before hand but when reading it out loud I laugh a lil at what I wrote. Janine's team is a mess, it's really silly how weak game freak made her, they couldn't have at least bumped her team up to the low 40s?
These are probably some of my favorite Pokemon videos on the site at the moment! Keep them up please!!!
Thank you! It takes a lot of editing and scripting work, but I enjoy theorycrafting these! I'm glad you're enjoying them, and next video will be a different pokemon topic, but for sure I'll be doing more of these videos in the future
It took me a bit to realise it was an hour long video. Dang Rory you've been making some good progress. But I guess it went on for that long cuz there's a lot of fixing to be done with these earlier gym leaders.
@@lipika2841 Yeah, well there's 9 trainers to talk about, and with them all having 3-5 pokemon in the base game and 5-6 in the rework means theres just so much to talk about. In other gens I can get thru the first few gym leaders very quickly, not here.
I'm just glad I got the video finished by this weekend, considering how long it is!
1:38
Hardly relevant to the video, but I actually learned why those stats are now that color. If you were to look at the status screen in X&Y, you would see the text colors green for HP, yellow attack etc. Noticed that when I went back into my old save of the game.
Good to know! I was gathering the stats info while Bulbapedia while they were changing, it went through a few iterations, but I'm quite happy with how they look now. Makes sense they reflect how they look in the game
It's also because they're much easier to read for a person who is color blind. I assume that's also why game freak chose the colors.
@@benjadryl_7393 I'm glad they've considered accessibility in that regard then, plus the colours are nice to look at
I feel like Hidden Power should've been given to more pokemon. Pokemon like Surge's Magneton, Erika's Bellossom, and Janine's Cenomoth would benefit alot from Hidden Power Grass, and Water (for the latter two) respectively.
I agree sort of, like I'd be completely fine if somebody made their own "fixed" gym leaders and gave a lot more hidden power to pokemon, for me personally I just like keeping it to certain trainers
What I would change from your teams:
Brock: Onix -> Steelix (Sandstorm, Rock Slide, Earthquake, Iron Tail + Quick Claw)
Misty: Lanturn -> Gyarados (Hydro Pump, Strengh, Hyper Beam, Fire Blast + Pink Bow)
Surge: Porygon -> Lanturn (Surf, Confuse Rau, Thunderbolt, Hydro Pump + Leftovers)
Blaine: Rapidash -> Charizard (Flamethrower, Earthquake, Fly, Sword Dance + Soft Sand)
Brock having a Steelix would be cool, I was tempted but decided to let him keep it since its iconic
For Misty, I like the Gyarados, it helps a bit being neutral to grass matchups!
same for surge except lanturn will be a great asset against the ground types,
Lastly Blaine having a charizard is interesting, most fire types gen 1 and 2 are monotype so it would help a lot against ground types, and add more resistances to his team, swords dance zard is also cool
Janine actually could be worse... I halfway expected her item to be an Antidote.
By the way, Kabutops can get Ancient Power earlier as an egg move.
Really loving this series, especially giving characters strong but underused pokémon (like Dodrio and Porygon2)!
Although in that vein, I think it's a huge missed opportunity not giving Janine a Nidoqueen as her ace - I've always thought it was the best possible pokémon for her!!
My team for Janine would be:
Qwilfish (w/ King's Rock) - Spikes, Toxic, Sludge Bomb, Headbutt
Beedrill (w/ Scope Lens) - Twineedle, Sludge Bomb, Focus Energy, Double Team
Weezing (w/ Pink Bow) - Explosion, Sludge Bomb, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt
Tentacruel (w/ Leftovers) - Surf, Ice Beam, Toxic, Protect
Nidoqueen (w/ Soft Sand) - Earthquake, Shadow Ball, Thunder Punch, Ice Punch
My main goal was to differentiate Janine even more from Koga (gen 2 team) and to give her some unique team members that basically no other bosses use. Thanks for reading!!
Thank you! I think Nidoquen on Janine would make sense, and is nice since it's also not really used anywhere else!
Beedrill set is cool as well, definitely an upgrade over anything Ariados could do.
Psyduck/Golduck:
- are named after psychic references
- learn damage dealing Psychic type moves
- aren't Psychic type mons
Staryu/Starmie:
- are named after psychic references
- don't learn STAB Psychic type moves
- are Psychic type mons
Tbh, I played White 2 Challenge Mode and beat the story in 44 hours with some change. I just found that all I needed was grinding.
Gj on making these videos, the teams r great and did Kanto justice. Kanto is a big part of the johto games but the gym leaders strength r so inconsistent and weak especially when it is post game. Where you would expect all trainers would be stronger.
And how do u do the moveset on bulbapedia format like that ( idk what that call lmao, the bulbapedia frame with the moveset on there )
Thank you! Yeah kanto is cool to add in concept but they dropped the ball with the gym leader difficulty, apart from blue
For bulbapedia moves I just use my computers basic screen clipping tool to screenshot the moveset, then I open the image in paint . Net and use the magic wand tool, click on the white background around the moveset, delete it, then save it as a png. So when I put it in the editor it doesn't have any background and is just the moveset
I love the fact that you made some callbacks to your previous videos like Surge's Porygon.
The choices you've made were quite interesting... I would've given the starter's weakness choice for Blue instead of making Gyrados his "main" but it's fine anyway, overall.
Mewtwo on Red is a nice touch ! Never thought about it before, personally...
Little "complain" : i would've left an Ariados to Jeannine, even thought it's really weak on this stage of the game, i think it still fits a poison type specialist's team, but it's juste my opinion ^^
And give love to Mantine and replace Misty's Lapras with it... I know that Mantine is weaker but that allows you to avoid a repeat 😜
Thank you! Honestly I do like Ariados, so I would have no problems if in a crystal improvement video someone let her keep it!
And I was so close to giving Misty a Mantine tbh, it'd definitely suit her team and help by being neutral to grass types!
Thank you for the comment!
Loved all these changes!
Not sure if this has been asked before: but how do you create the layout for your revised teams? Is there a program you use, or is it just editing Bulbapedia?
Thank you I'm glad you liked them!
And it is just manual editing, software I use is paint . Net
Each team edit takes around 30 mins so it's quite the tedious task, fairly simple though
Brock out here doing an unemployed any% with that team
(Also that fake thumbnail, i almost choked on my food laughing 😂)
Thank you! I liked it as well, dunno if u noticed but I edited brocks sprite to have a little cocky eyebrow raise in it as well, he's living life how he wants to, the Pokémon league be damned!
I had no idea Synthesis was affected by time of day. Very interesting.
Yeah really odd, so if you play at morning or at night, and it's raining then synthesis heals 1/8th Ur max hp, aka 2 turns of leftovers
Pokémon is series primarily for selling to children but fans from when it originally came out and was huge are adults now and they do advertise on nostalgia often, so there should be something for them and that should be in the form of a hard mode
Yup I agree, they could make a hard mode with little effort, just give trainers better IVs and EVs, and if they have more time to work on it then edit movesets and held items
15:10 I hate to be that guy, but Perish Song is a Normal move, not a Ghost move. Still, it really should be!
You are right, I rewatched the entire video twice, and specifically tried to scout out any moves I wrongly typed (I put sandstorm as ground type), but that one still flew under the radar.
At the least it's an understandable accident (yeah it totally should be ghost type!)
Champion Red should have the Hydro Pump, Fire Blast and Solar Beam combo imo and Pikkachu only have a few extra levels for lols but this is a cool video man
Yeah that's fair, they'd hit even harder, I can agree with those suggestions. Thank you, glad you liked the vid!
Here's my changes to the Kanto leaders:
Lt.Surge: Raichu, Electrode, Lanturn, Magneton, and Electabuzz
Sabrina: Espeon, Mr.Mime, Slowking, Xatu, and Alakazam
Erica: Tangela, Jumpluff, Victreebel, Bellossom, and Meganium
Janine: Crobat, Weezing, Qwilfish, Ariados, and Venomoth
Misty: Golduck, Quagsire, Lapras, Starmie, and Vaporeon
Brock: Rhydon, Kabutops, Onix, Golem, and Sudowoodo
Blaine: Magcargo, Magmar, Rapidash, Arcanine, and Ninetails
Blue: Pidegot, Gyarados, Exeggutor, Rhydon, Alakazam, and Typhlosion
These are some good team changes!
I like how you gave Surge a lanturn, that'll really help for the ground types, and Vaporeon on misty is really cool as well.
Erica getting Meganium would help a lot, people like to say meganium is bad but honestly, compared to the other grass types its really solid!
Also Blue getting a Typlosion is interesting, maybe it could have the 3rd starter that neither the player or the rival picked?
I like your changes!
I like Jolteon for Blue, it reminds me of his Yellow team. Perhaps we could go even further and make it his ace (I mean, Red's highest level is Pikachu, so we can suppose the gen2 games are a Yellow sequel instead of R/B).
Another interesting swap that Yellow Rival could give to us is Gyarados -> Cloyster, it seems to be a better gen 2 mon with a 60 -> 85 SATK and a better movepool in Surf / Ice Beam / Clamp / Protect
i forgor to vote but a gen 4 video would be nice, idk if their teams are really that bad except for diamond and pearl
Don't worry vote hasn't happened yet, I'm thinking next vote will be for either Gen 4, or Gen 3 (and maybe fixing gen 3's rivals, because I think Wally and May / Brendon could be made a lot more interesting)
Is Generation 2 finally finished? If so, I'm looking forward to Generation 3, even if it'll take a while.
Golduck is the best psychic! great video fella!
Let's go Golduck! And thank you, cool to see you're starting Ur own challenge run videos!
Golduck's crit rate with cross chop would actually be 33%, since high crit rate moves in gen 2 are actually +2 crit rate! I kinda wish they kept this, at least until gen 6. They should probably change the crit rate for +1 to ~25% actually, since it just jumps from 12.5 to 50 with the way it is now. Modern base crit rate also seems weirdly low, especially with its reduced damage multiplier.
Oh wow, never knew that! Crit rate is kinda wild now, it's a lot easier to get auto crits with just +3
1:01:11 You're being kind by choosing shadowball over EQ. EQ + Body slam can hit everything in game with the only resists being Aerodactyl and Skarmory (iirc). You can now hit most steel types better with EQ than shadow ball - if not super effective then neutral at least, rather than being resisted. You can still hit gengar super effectively with a stronger move with the only trade off being that eq isnt super effective on misdreavus, as far as ghosts go.
Haven’t started the video yet but I’m excited, I really wished these gyms were more powerful and less mid, because even in the harder rom hack Digimon crystal I was able to slap everybody in Kanto except red on try one, and trust me they were all rocking level 60’s as this games E4 level curve was, and even with great digimon/Pokémon they were too weak to deal with a good matchup on their own
Well I hope you enjoy! I tried to follow a level curve based on where I saw several lets players levels at, this isn't meant to be a crazy difficult challenge but a sufficiently upgraded hard mode for the pokemon player that cruises through the regular games
@@RoryTheFiend see I don’t cruise through Jhoto but I wish it had the same level of danger as unova, there should always be trainers that are just tough, but some battles can be easy as long as you Balance it around player choice causing different difficulty based on their interactions, team, etc
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 Some of the toughest battles I've had in Unova are from regular trainers, gonna need to replay them some point soon
15:14 Perish song as a ghost type move? Not gonna lie, it looks more like a ghost type move than normal
I rewatched my video twice, and still missed that lol. a lot of status moves that feel like they should be another type are just normal for some reason
@@RoryTheFiendNormal type is just the type they give things they have no idea what typing to give, only like half of Normal type things feel "normal"
@@InsertFunnyThingHere I can agree with that, gen 1 especially they went wild with normal type moves
@@RoryTheFiend yeah and in the actual pokemon they just give normal type as the default type if they have no other type to add. Nowadays it's even worse, apparently just being vaguely white colored is enough, and sometimes they give the normal type just because they feel like it'd be a cool type combo (which like true but also you could have made it actually look normal)
Was literally grossed out with Raichu being Reds ace for a sec 😅
10000 dislikes if I changed Red's Pikachu to a Raichu
What on earth i was just now watching you lmao
The timing is immaculate, I only upload every month or 2 o_o appreciate the views
@RoryTheFiend I have something shocking to tell you! Blue’s Pidgeot used Mirror Move on my Epseon’s Return. The damage from it was tiny. That means Blue’s Pidgeot really doesn’t like Blue!
His pidgeot yearns for freedom, it's tired of the endless battling, but Blue will not allow that!
@@RoryTheFiend Blue, you monster! No wonder you lost to red! Forgotten to treat his pokemon with trust and love
Couldn't the Onix be replaced with a Steelix? (He has one in the anime).
I don't understand the scope lens on ninetails
quick reminder for everyone to subscribe ! Another great video
Thanks Laz, we almost at 11k now!! o_0
Could you add this to the "Fixing Pokémon" playlist?
Done, thanks for reminding me
Surge Needs a rain setter
Sorta wish you gave Misty a Gyarados cause of Brock's Aerodactyl.
Why not give magneton thunder or golduck hydro pump if they have scope lenses?
Magneton does have Thunder, and for Golduck, I guess I valued the accuracy from Surf, but Hydro Pump is a good move with Scope Lens of course
Curious that you've used Rhyhorn's Yellow sprite in at least part of the Brock section.
The reason is simple, I downloaded the wrong sprite and managed to gloss over that fact while editing
@@RoryTheFiend Ahah, yeah, that's what it looked like, although, since there was also the Gen 1 Geodude sprite alongside it, at one point, I thought "maybe there's a chance it's a stylistic choice I'm not seeing", lol; well, it seems like you caught it afterwards, since, iirc, the Gen 2 sprite is used in the overview of the team 😁👍.
@@andreapareti324 Yeah aha, working on a 1 hour video over the course of 2 weeks it's pretty much inevitable for small things like that to fly under the radar for me
I know youre trying to make the teams more formidable, but i think that more diversity of moves would be cool too. Electabuzz having thunderpunch might be on paper worse but thematically it fits much better. Theres a lot of opportunity to use flavorful moves on these gym teams instead of having 5 surfs or 5 psychics. Mix it up with bubblebeam or psybeam for added flavor.
The STAB Surf contains potassium benzoate.
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That's bad
Omastar: can I go now?
If there arent options and the pokemon has narrative reason to make sense with type i dont mind different typed mon. So sudowoodu and porygon 2 feel close enough
As long as it's not overused I'm all for it
@RoryTheFiend well it has to make sense which means probably a lot of people thought of it. No one want a pikachu on a dragon team.
To me, Red’s team in the OG GSC is perfect and i felt like replacing Espeon with Lapras was very unnecessary
I love Red's OG team, I think Espeon is a solid addition, swapping for Lapras is odd since it overlaps with Blastoise's typing.
I do really like Red’s battle theme, to me it got better in HGSS but i think the best version of Red’s battle theme is in Let’s Go! It’s a total shame that after you beat Red in Let’s Go the first time, any rematches with him it just uses the plain trainer battle of Let’s Go.
Speaking of Red if Red got to battle Ash Ketchum this would be the teams id glove them to face each other
Red’s team: Pikachu (Z-move), Charizard (mega X), Venasaur, Blastoise, Snorlax (Gigantamax), Espeon
Ash’s team: Pikachu (Z-Move), Infernape, Greninja (Ash-Greninja / Dynamax), Sceptile (mega), Lycanroc (dusk form), Krookodile
@@RoryTheFiend i agree cause I’m someone who like type variety on they’re pokemon team & Red already has a better water type in Blastoise plus Espeon gave Red some good Johto representation. (Fun fact Espeon is my favorite Eeveelution & Psychic type pokemon)
@@adantelee5017 That is a shame, why would they make the battle theme be the regular team when u rematch red?
Who do you think would win, with Red VS Ash?
@@RoryTheFiend yeah that Let’s Go rendition of Red’s battle theme from the Johto games is a banger & a total earworm of mine.
Between Ash vs Red, i say Ash wins
If Pokémon types could retroactively be changed, does Electric/Psychic Porygon sound reasonable?
Yeah it'd definitely be electric psychic, would be a real menace with adaptability o_o
Idk why but for lt surge and wattson i have always wanted them to have lanturn (yes lanturn is in emerald thanks for not remembering)
Lanturn is a great Pokémon for electric types to give them a decent option for grounds, I can totally see those guys using one on their team
Should’ve given Misty a level 100 togepi that only knows metronome
A terrifying prospect, level 100 togepi stat wise also wouldnt be too bad compared to the level 50 actually good pokemon
Gyarados cant learn EARTHQUAKE in gen2? geez, thats the next aero, gets his moves in gen3 too! Funfact, can learn stone edge but no rock slide I dont get them
Yeah Gyarados gen 2 was definitely its low point in the series, I dont get the moves game freak give and dont give to pokemon sometimes. If something can stone edge, it can definitely rock slide!
Why no Lanturn for Surge?
No legendary birds for red?
I know that most of the ghosts are poison in this generation but why didn’t you give one of Sabrina's pokemon shadow ball after espeon’s bite ghosts are somewhat safe.
Ghost moves are physical in Gen 2 so it's not that great on most psychic pokemon
Oh I thought the split between special and physical was in place in these games.
Red's Mewtwo should hold the Berserk Gene. Is it stupid ? Maybe. But thematic. And pretty cool since this item is nowhere to see in the game.
That's an interesting idea! In that case I'd need to give it another physical move like shadow ball, cool concept for sure
Blue should have a blastoise and Blaine a charizard Erika venesaur
I have to say that Golduck is indeed the best Psychic Pokemon
when doing a psychic type only run, Golduck has to be on the team, no ifs ands or buts
Honestly, I prefer Red's team from GSC than his HGSS, I dislike replacing Espeon for Lapras.
Blue with dodrio is a good choice. Its just the better kanto bird why whouldnt he rep one good kanto pokemon of similar types
Fuck i missed the premier
An eye mewtwo the second best psychic be hind golduck
yea It's common knowledge, Golduck is just insanely strong, not even Mewtwo is stronger
Sorry, Golduck, Reuniclus is the best Psychic type
Reuniclus is pretty cool to be fair, I'm sure golduck won't check every comment here so we're fine
If Golduck couldn't find this comment, he wouldn't also be able to find this reply under it. MEWTWO is the BEST PSYCHIC-TYPE BABY!!
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gamefreak just didn't care about any generations
except unova
Gen 5 is my favourite, black and white 2 specifically. Honestly considering doing a video covering the game
That sounds like quite an exaggeration considering that they've given a damn about Hoenn & Sinnoh through the remakes & are still definitely very fixated on Kanto.
Hey, Sudowoodo on Erika's Team is fair. Brassius has one as his Ace. Or, I'm sorry, A Truleewoodo, on his Team. Also, I'd prefer trainers NOT have Legendaries. There are specific circumstances where they MIGHT be acceptable; but, NOT a Superboss. That's too broken.
i almost stopped watching when you said that Red's new lead was Raichu. That'd be an awful decision.
You didn't fix anything. Those teams are still shit. It's always the same with these videos: monotype, not full teams and underleveled. Give them full teams, with only two pokemon of the gym's type and FORCE a level parity with the player, for fuck's sake.
I have people saying the exact opposite as well, that I've overlevelled them, and that I should only use pokemon of the same type as the gym leader. something I've learned on youtube is you can't please everyone, and people will be rude to you from both sides of the spectrum.
@@RoryTheFiend It's not about listening to others. Just think clearly. Do you see monotype competitive teams outside of monotype special rule? NO. Take a guess why. It's because actually good teams must have varied types. And level parity is important (force the same level on both sides).
@@renatoramos8834 I'm not going against the entire main theme of gym leaders just to make them competitive tier, that's not the aim of this video. You want something fundamentally different than what is expected of a gym leader to use, which is fine, but that's just how the vast majority of remaking gym leader team videos are going to be, not deviate too far from the original concept.
Level parity is fine, I wouldn't mind it, but i wanted to have something more tangible and traditional with just raw level upgrades that i deemed reasonable. It's fine u disagree of course, everyone is different after all
@@RoryTheFiend It's in the tittle. Your intention was to FIX the gym leaders. You're failing miserably because although those teams are less shit, they're still shit. Monotype, underleveled and less than 6 pokemon.
You literally are describing showdown just play some monotype and stay out of the proper games you don’t belong here and your opinions are invalid you obviously don’t know how the actual games are made