War Thunder DEV - CANADIAN LEOPARD 2A4M is HERE! Is it a 2A6? or not enough for that?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
  • Checking out the new Leopard 2a4M for GERMANY!
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Комментарии • 52

  • @linleesin
    @linleesin 3 месяца назад +5

    Sweden, Italy, Great Britain and France benefited from the Sub Tech-Tree. The USA and the USSR are the nations that have the most vehicles in the game and continue to receive more and more.
    1- Poland, Switzerland, Austria and the Czech Republic can form Germany, forming Central Europe.
    2- Türkiye, Saudi Arabia, the UAE (United Arab Emirates) and Qatar can form Israel, forming the Middle East.
    3- Pakistan, South Korea, along with North Korea, have been vassals and allies of the Chinese for millennia, and can be part of China. The game is not current, so choosing South Korea for Japan is 100% wrong, as they have been enemies for millennia too.
    4- Singapore, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand can form Japan sub tech-tree.

    • @diobrando2575
      @diobrando2575 3 месяца назад +1

      China is fairly supportive of North Korea, and North Korea has been threatening South Korea with war for years so putting South Korea in the Chinese Tech Tree, much less alongside North Korea, would be worse than putting them in the Japanese tech tree because at the very least Japan isn't either threatening war with or abetting a nation threatening war with South Korea.
      Also going by your logic, putting the Middle Eastern Nations in the Israeli tree is also 100% wrong, considering that for the most part only Turkey has been fairly friendly to Israel and that has recently changed. Qatar has always been on good terms with Hamas, and has a rocky relationship with Israel, with Israel having supported the Saudi-led anti-Qatar bloc in 2017, and Qatar having ceased trade with Israel in 2011. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are on somewhat good terms with Israel, but not enough to say they would fight side by side with them outside of extreme circumstances.
      Instead of South Korea for China, give them Iran. Iran and China have good relations, China has allegedly aided Iran development military equipment, and Iran has military ties to Pakistan so having them in the same tree makes sense.

    • @linleesin
      @linleesin 3 месяца назад +1

      @@diobrando2575 The game is not a contemporary war, it takes place over the last 100 years. In World War II, South Korea was just Korea and was part of the Alliance with China, trying to gain independence from the Japanese invasion, and for more than millennia the unified Korea was a vassal and ally of China. Therefore, it is a mistake to think that South Korea must be a sub-technological country of Japan for this reason. The same happens with Taiwan and China, as Taiwan is considered China by the UN and almost every country in the world, but they want independence and can go to war with each other. The same for India and South Africa, which are part of BRICS, are 100% independent countries and are within GB, just as the Netherlands, which is a Germanic-speaking country, has a state divided by the same name with another German state, but is within France. Just like East and West Germany. So yes, South Korea can and should be part of China.
      Sharing a tree doesn't mean they will fight side by side, learn to understand the semantics that the tree can be regional, what makes you think that Hungary should be a technological subtree of Italy? Hungary has its own language, it is closer to Russia than to NATO, although it is part of NATO, it was once part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. I can only imagine Hungary in Italy so who knows how to align the countries in that region, then perhaps Croatia, Greece, among other Mediterranean countries in Europe, will be part of Italy. Who knows, even Spain and Portugal.
      I agree that Iran and Pakistan should be part of China, along with South Korea. And Japan can receive the Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia. These are all regional countries with strong support from the United States and Japan.

    • @linleesin
      @linleesin 3 месяца назад +1

      @@diobrando2575 Which country can be part of Israel? If not the Middle Eastern countries? All countries in the Middle East hate Israel, and Israel's allies are countries that already have a sub-technological tree, that is, they are larger countries. Gaijin made a mistake creating Israel, now that they've made that mistake they need to solve the lack of vehicles with a technology sub-tree, they did this with Britain, Italy, Sweden and France, why wouldn't it be? made in Israel?

  • @yazadkavarana28
    @yazadkavarana28 3 месяца назад +1

    Well this thing can fire DM53 but for balancing reasons they gave it KEW which is good but the spalling the shell create is bad according to ppl…also on dev blog it says it has composite armour package almost similar to 2a7v which will make it tankier than 2a4

  • @wolfbrigade4280
    @wolfbrigade4280 3 месяца назад +1

    Not worth 70 euros for this paper armored gun. U can't even play at range with hull down. And no inner steel walls in turret, kills all crew with one hit. It's gonna be same as C2A1 Mexas with cosmetic armor. And Canadian 7.62 machine gun fire rate sucks.

  • @WyattChilson
    @WyattChilson 3 месяца назад +1

    It can Fire DM53 but because its Gaijin Gaijin says no

  • @12LoLproductions
    @12LoLproductions 3 месяца назад

    The KE-W round we have is comparable to the M829A1 round for America it's really a sidegrade shell meant for the export market as it doesn't have a DU penetrator

  • @Francois_1er
    @Francois_1er 3 месяца назад +1

    The armor model is not finish and we have more several day of dev server to go before update drop.

    • @kaylum9127
      @kaylum9127 3 месяца назад +4

      Add a week or two on top of that.

  • @M4_Soppi_2
    @M4_Soppi_2 3 месяца назад +2

    Suppose to have a similar armor than the 2A7

    • @yuanfurbax
      @yuanfurbax 3 месяца назад +2

      And the 2A7 suppose to have 33% more base armor in the hull and 30% more on the front mounted composite

    • @M4_Soppi_2
      @M4_Soppi_2 3 месяца назад +1

      @@yuanfurbax maybe but the 2A7 have still a good armor at 11.7, the 2A4M have the regular 2A4 armor at 11.3 with +100 mm
      Very very bad

    • @yuanfurbax
      @yuanfurbax 3 месяца назад

      @@M4_Soppi_2 2PL is also 11,3 2A4 +100mm except it doesn't have the PSO hull sideskirts

    • @M4_Soppi_2
      @M4_Soppi_2 3 месяца назад +1

      @@yuanfurbax still non accurate armor

    • @yuanfurbax
      @yuanfurbax 3 месяца назад

      @@M4_Soppi_2 ok but why yapping about the 2A4M when armor on all Leopards(2A5-PSO, 2A6, 2A7V-HU) are wrong except 2A4 is fine

  • @M4_Soppi_2
    @M4_Soppi_2 3 месяца назад +1

    Ohhhh Canada!

  • @K1ng_Rat
    @K1ng_Rat 3 месяца назад

    Normal t-80... UE having not typical high res thermal and a 40 deg gun laying which is only present on bvm and t-90. While the leo is up armoured leo pz btw123

  • @AlexThetankI
    @AlexThetankI 3 месяца назад +4

    The KEW is better than the DM43

    • @akkakali
      @akkakali 3 месяца назад

      its not💀

    • @AlexThetankI
      @AlexThetankI 3 месяца назад +3

      @@akkakali bro the KE-W has at 10m and 0 degrees 583 mm pen and the DM43 has only 536 and at 2000m the KE-W has 528mm and the DM43 507 so what are you talking about?

    • @finne880
      @finne880 3 месяца назад

      Well I heard that ke-w has bad spalling while DM43 has good spalling and it’s faster as well. So if I’m gunna have a round that is under 600mm of pen then I rather have more spalling and velocity

    • @akkakali
      @akkakali 3 месяца назад

      @@finne880 exactly

    • @finne880
      @finne880 3 месяца назад

      @@akkakali if you have over 500mm of pen and you know where to aim then penetration is most only a small issue when you have to fight something well armoured the T-90M,Leo 2a7v, strv 122s. Now moving on to velocity, I’ve played a good time with China top tier and I can say it helped a lot to have a round that helped hold my hand better because I didn’t have to lead my shot as much as other rounds. Even after saying all this either round is ok but technically not accurate because irl the Leo 2a4m should have DM53 so that should be the real argument lol.

  • @immanuelleelong8900
    @immanuelleelong8900 3 месяца назад

    Nice video

  • @anrw886
    @anrw886 3 месяца назад +1

    If you look at the protection the hull and armor wedges are no way near as effective as the tech tree wedges, especially to the 2A7s

  • @coltonpetit3358
    @coltonpetit3358 3 месяца назад +3

    Why is it not in the UK, the ADATS is

    • @knicklicht9
      @knicklicht9 3 месяца назад +4

      It's still a Leopard, which you know is German. Also there is the Canadian Leopard 1a5 in the German TechTree already so theres no reason to put it in the British Tech Tree

    • @FutureFlash2034
      @FutureFlash2034 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@knicklicht9 Because Canadian Vehicles are in the UK tech tree and Canada is part of the Commonwealth with King Charles III as their King. There was alot of upset by those who want Canadian Vehicles ingame about the Leopard C2 MEXAS not being in the British Tech Tree. And again now there is upset with this Canadian vehicle not being in the British Tech Tree.

    • @Boul117
      @Boul117 3 месяца назад +1

      to make you cope like you are doing right now and because its german , adats is more or less a m113 that everybody have .

    • @HelmutGaming
      @HelmutGaming 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@FutureFlash2034 And life is terrible, and everything is hard, and you have to work everyday, and wa wa wa womp womp... cry louder please. The leopard is german, and it is a tank that gives identity to the branch, if you want the Mexas or the 2a4M can, then play germany, or Italy since they decided to give Hungary to them too, or sweden with the Strv's... But just as you complain about germany and that canadian vehicles should go to the UK, there are many injustices that have been happening for years with germany suffers, so I hope you are happy, because you are not the only one that gaijin is shitting on... And if you want real change, go complain to the forums please :)

  • @emilhuan5230
    @emilhuan5230 3 месяца назад +12

    Actually just a worse Leopard 2A5

    • @12LoLproductions
      @12LoLproductions 3 месяца назад +6

      Best 2A4
      Worst 2A5
      I mean the PL can dominate at 11.3 with DM43 so if they allow this to remain with KE-W it'll still slap

    • @recordlabeldao7820
      @recordlabeldao7820 3 месяца назад

      ​@@12LoLproductionstrue. Anyway for me it says leopard 2a4 anyway we cannot make unrealistic imaginary whag it should be. If it says 2a4 its is a 2a4 cannot be compared to 2a5 2a6 or 2a7 thats just dumb comparesion if I am really honest

    • @unlockingsnow8571
      @unlockingsnow8571 3 месяца назад +1

      I mean it does have 2A4 in the name.....

    • @yazadkavarana28
      @yazadkavarana28 3 месяца назад +1

      The dev blog for this does say that it will get composite armour package almost similar to 2a7v so if thats true it will be the best prem 11.3 mbt out there

    • @unlockingsnow8571
      @unlockingsnow8571 3 месяца назад

      @@yazadkavarana28 Mis-information. The dev blog statement refers to it having almost exact replica of composite to the 2A7 series of tanks. This is referring to the 2A7+ and not the 2A7V.
      Additionally the armor in question is specifically in reference to the side add-on composite Armour.
      The turret face Armour will be identical to the 2A4 Armour but with the added cheese wedge. (Think of the 2PL).
      Also the lack of the UFP 'beak' Armour that can be seen on the 2A7V. 2A7HU, STRV 122 will likely mean it will have a similar hull to the 2A6 or 2A5 in terms of protection.
      It is genuinely and historically accurate to call it a mini or worse 2A5. The 2A4M is literally just a 2A4 with extra Armour bolted on from the 2A7+ 2010 era.

  • @Rempai420
    @Rempai420 3 месяца назад +2

    Why does everyone care about KE-W? It's better than both L27A1 and 3BM60. I'm pretty sure its even better than the Leclerc's best round. This thing will slap in the hands of a decent player.
    MatAWG doesn't even know what a lower front plate / Belly plate is?? He calls it a karma line? Why make a video if you're just going to bumble over useless info?

    • @MrMonkeyManh
      @MrMonkeyManh 3 месяца назад +1

      I understand your view point but mat does a lot to push out vids so we should give him a break for the karma line stuff

    • @Rempai420
      @Rempai420 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MrMonkeyManh What? This entire video is pointless content? It’s just an engagement farm. He bumbles over his words, doesn’t really know what he’s talking about and doesn’t really show anything new about the vehicle.

    • @oltsu1234
      @oltsu1234 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Rempai420Im pretty sure english isnt his first language. So its natural to forget some werds once in a while

    • @MrMonkeyManh
      @MrMonkeyManh 3 месяца назад

      @@Rempai420 give him a break for fucks sake

  • @linleesin
    @linleesin 3 месяца назад +1

    0:04
    Why do you pronounce Leopard wrong? Leopard is a German tank, the pronunciation is not in English. 😅

    • @aboya7ia56
      @aboya7ia56 3 месяца назад

      🤓👆

    • @linleesin
      @linleesin 3 месяца назад +1

      @@aboya7ia56 Am I wrong to ask?

  • @Resi_Idiota
    @Resi_Idiota 3 месяца назад

    More like wanna be Leo 2a5