I really like the idea of shirou doing interesting things even when the story isn't focused on him it's nice to know that he's not just twiddling his thumbs all day.
Our boy Shriou still has the protag charm in full effect even after his own story. He is after all the poster boy of FATE. No matter what verse it is Shirou will come into mind of every person.
It's crazy how Dark the Nasuverse can get while also maintaining that some silly and downright hilarious incidents can happen because magic is real and you get good, bad, and the crazy all mixed in together.
Nasuverse (for me at least), is reimagining of what the real world would be if we do have magic and science together. It really shows how much human can grow if given the right kind knowledge. And it's not like most anime where only the MC is going to be strongest in the end. There is many entity in the Nasuverse that strong or even Outright impossible to be overcome. This makes it so we can't really solve everything with just fighting and we had to have a plan for most situation. It really makes it interesting, and make the side Character in Nasuverse more interesting because everyone there is strong in their own way, like there is no truly weak Character if they are given the right kind of knowledge and training.
@@Patrick-tg6wm I still remember shitting on Rider with my friends when we first watched Fate UBW lmao. Then Heaven's Feel 2 came out and oh boy were we all flabbergasted..
Besides being one of the best worldbuilders in the business I think Nasu's greatest strength is the ability to strike a balance between action, horror, romance, and comedy. He can make all four work in a way that feels natural, which is something that very few japanese writers can pull off in my experience.
With shirou being kidnapped by the mafia it really makes me wonder what the criminal underworld is like in fate and how it interacts with the more supernatural elements of the setting.
Huh, that's an interesting thought. Imagine an organization like Black Dragons from Mortal Kombat in the Fate universe. Or something like the Assassination syndicate from John Wick, but Fate style. I mean technically Kenny is the closest thing to John Wick in fate. So who's to say he's the only assassin?
Man I'll tell ya. If Shirou was the protagonist in Fate/GO. No one would safe from his Harem skill. They all would gotten a taste of that rizz. Heck I don't think Ritsuka themselves wouldn't be available to resist him. Them and Mashu would randomly throw it back at him if they saw his face.
@@sleepylmguy9968 i don't think shirou emiya will see and do nothing If some innocent people in LB just get erased Him being in fgo Will be a nightmare to him then anything
Shirou's worth in the supernatural world has been clear ever since Stay Night, where in some of the bad endings, both Illya and Medea turn him into an object to be used. People need to remember that Reality Marbles are SUPER RARE and their workings edge onto True Magic, regardless of their functionality. Having someone like Shirou could change anyone's reputation in the world of magecraft and beyond.
@@o0Flavio950o Ilya just turns him into a doll for her own amusement. Medea threatens to turn him into a wand that makes use of his magecraft and/or just leaves his brain into a jar which later Rin destroys.
I'm curious what Shirou would think of Gray considering her whole condition of slowly turning into Artoria. Also just makes me want to see another season for the anime.
Gray and Rin actually met in book 1 of El-Melloi Adventures so I'm sure Shirou and Gray will see each other in this arc too. When she met Gray Rin froze up in shock at her face.
Rin and Waver already agreed that she should not meet Shirou since it may cause her transformation into Artoria to progress faster due to Artoria's memories from her time in Fate/SN
@@orrthehunter Know this now makes me almost certain that they are going to meet. They would not have brought up the fact that it could be dangerous without planning for it to happen at some point. Like, I love the El Melloi series, but it is always pretty obvious when something will be relevant later, and this feels like one of those things.
Always knew my boy hero had a thing for playing games, also I can't remember if it was here or UBW but Luiva met him when she saved her from some random thugs with a sword in one hand and a bag of groceries in the other, I can't not smile
That Harem protagonist EX skill, man. Shirou never gets a break, does he? You know, it has been stated that in Apocrypha (since its also an alternate world) Shirou is living in a romcom harem anime/manga with Rin, Lluvia, Sakura in Fuyuki... Just glad that he's doing ok in one universe, at least....
@amidabibjo1869There is a canon actually. Anhenerbe is a canon place with non canon events. FGO's events such as summer or other silly things are canon insofar as they're considered something that happened but not everything that happens in the game is canon.
Future Rin was one of the best things from FHA, shows some character development on how she went from tsundere to dropping the tsun and went full dere for Shirou once she got older. Even got a bit of yandere in there once someone started to insult Shirou. Shame we can't say the same for El melloi's future Rin who is still as tsundere as ever.
@@fardin_king6817As far as I’m aware, neither. It doesn’t really focus on any of the characters from FSN, so it’s hard to say. I know Rin shows up but obviously she would because she doesn’t die or disappear in any of the FSN true endings.
If we ignore all of the timelines stuff, the sequel is Case Files and Strange Fake, considering Waver's students (including Rin) are participating in Snowfield grail war. Hollow Ataraxia is not that far into the future afaik.
Fucking love hes just doing hero shit and getting himself into weird magical situations everywhere. If El Melloi ever shows how he and Rin dismantle the greater grail, i sure hope they bring him along for the adventure
Im more curious if zouken or sakura get involved since he would want the greater grail more than anyone. Unless he just happened to die under ten years before the grails completion despite living for over 500.
I wish we could see more of Shirou and his adventures as a mage. We know that in one of the alternative timelines, dude was going around hunting Kiara Sesshouin which resulted in some really nasty business.
@@5L1G_Zeref Lmao 😂😂Yo imagine if Natsu make that sh*t canon. Just to mess with the power scalers and cause he knows the fanbase love Shirou. He makes him broken as hell. That sounds like something he would do. Wait that DOES sound like something he would do. Just like any version of Artoria. Plus he is the author. He can do whatever he want. Oh no. Quick knock on wood everyone!
@@DarthFhenix55 no, I meant one that goes beyond that. Like something that would show how he becomes a servant, the things he goes through after leaving Fuyuki... Etc
Im okay with Shirou not being the mc but i want him to atleast appear in every fate story as a side character you know cause he's a hero who help everyone. Finally my boy Shiro getting the recognition he deserved
Side character for Shirou should been in Fate Kaleid Liner for him. I don't like how they brought another Shirou from Miyu's universe that took the spotlight away from Illya when one is enough in Illya's universe living a normal life with his real parents/or Illya's parents not going through broken down path life. And not being bother by being a magus family.
True, while i understand he can't be present everywhere there is conflict. I do expect him to appear once the stakes are high enough, like stopping a HGW or any possible high threat that could lead to alot of people dying. Goes hand in hand with the whole "Hero" business. (Still waiting for him to actually appear in fate fake strange).
@@yarigold will Shirou won't appear in Strange Fake but Strange Fake along with two other conclusion stories Kagetsu Tohya and Hollow Atraxia are these three thing where I'm senseing that something will happen which we would be getting a crossover mix stories with characters from Tsukihime, Fate Stay Night characters, Strange Fake characters and characters from Lord Elmolli case file characters to appear and it would also have Shirou to meet Ceil in a crossover mix story series.
It's hard to put Shirou into other stories cause then comes the question of which Shirou is he Fate route UBW or HF depending on which he would be very different
I just think his e rank luck turned to EX so that he wouldn't die and then immediately went back to e rank luck because he denied the prize and therefore now has an apostle ancestor interested in him.
I'm actually glad to know more about Shirou after the grail war, I'm ok that he's a side character in sequels at least in the case files, and when other nasu characters pop up I was waiting for him to show up at some point, at least we get to hear more about him.
Van-Fem's existence really makes me question the morals of all of the other Ancestors. I know alot of them are mage turned vampire so that comes with morals that range from morally grey to evil,, but what of the others? What are their goals and stance on humans?
If I remember correctly very so often dead apostles go into vampirism induced madness where they kill everyone they love, so I guess over the years it's easy to just give up on that and give in even f you are okay dude. Van-Fem is old as dirt so he might have overcome it long ago and can just do as he wants as long as he eats some people once in a while, but others like him are just as old and that alone is a problem. Imagine what fucked up backwards shit an eighty year old that does not let go of the past can say in real world, now imagine the same from a guy that was 500 years old when Jesus was born...
there are 3 main factions with the Ancestors. Van Fem is basically the leader of the pro keep the status quo faction. he is pro human but that is relative to the others. the Crimson Moon faction is the one that is the most dangerous to humans and is being led by Arcueid's loli sister. this faction is mostly interested in "reviving" the progenitor of all vamps (think Sukuna from Jujutsu Kaisen but on steroids) and there is a faction that wants humans to become cattle and take over the world. there are the independents too are all over the place
Correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure Van Fem in this world line isn't a Dead Apostle Ancestor? But instead just a Dead Apostle? Scratch that, since The Adventure of El Melloi II takes place in a more mainline Fate world compared to per say Strange Fake? (Which is a mix of Tsukihime and Fate) Where DAA isn't even a thing due to the lack of Crimson Moon and other stuff that make DAA thrives in Tsukihime. In this world I assume he's just a chill Dead Apostle who likes humanity I guess.
For anyone who is curious, Shirou is pretty cool in this arc of Case files. He has Kanshou and Bakuya, uses a bow, likely Archer’s, he can trace Vajra, has Avalon still and gets healing from it, and has been traveling around learning more about Kiritsugu. One of the bad guys is a mage who idolizes and is trying to be Kiritsugu. Shirou does fight this guy. Hope Tsiah covers the story as it is now.
@yujiandou4658 yeah but he's also burning himself out with each use. The Eclipse scene you get at the end of Tsukihime is all about that. He's going to die young because of the strain of his mystic eyes.
@@criminalisticL3 well, then it might be that in tsukihime worlds, the ryougi family might have not developed 2 personalities, so ryougi shiki couldn’t have survived and gotten the MEODP. And maybe in fate and knk worlds, since there are no DAA’s SHIKI might not have killed tohno shiki so tohno didn’t get the MEODP (though I forgot whether SHIKI got the impulse to kill tohno shiki because of Roa or if it was purely because of the demon blood). Though I don’t think that ryougi shiki and tohno shiki can fully exist in the same world, since ryougi’s current self is because of her other personality dying when she got the MEODP, and tohno shiki was created when nanaya got sealed away after SHIKI caused tohno to get the MEODP
@@criminalisticL3 The Ryougi family exists in both timelines, but Ryougi Shiki herself is a bit iffy. She definitely exists in Fate, but we don't know about Tsukihime.
fun details in Fate/Unlimited Codes, if you have a match between Luvia and Shirou and she wins, she will mention that she finds Shirou interesting, and he has potentials - he should become her Butler.
He didn't go toe to toe with any servants here. Remember, this doesn't directly follow the routes, so any fights where he hacked his progress, gil, emiya, herc, salter, hasn't occurred. What we do know from Alexandre dumas is that he DOES get good without help, but it's still a few years out around 23ish. We will see.
Shirou was always about compatibility. He could face some Servants due to circumstances but doesnt mean he can face an entire group with guns. Toe to toe is kinda unfair when even with Gil he realized heavily on his arrogance and Rin's mana. And at the end he didnt even manage to kill him, Archer did.
@@Hetsu.. Shirou survives a lot of Servant attacks because they hold back, they are ridiculously nerfed, stop the last second, he himself has ridiculous different buffs, Avalon's healing power, his powers work specifically counter to them, or are saved by others. 100 people? Easy. 100 people with guns is a different story. Not to mention the mafia has connections with mages so things get even more complicated.
@tokotai1758 they do put effort into shirou, but the fact that illya is an actual servant in fgo, but shirou isn't (by that, I mean fate stay night shirou and not emiya or emiya alter or muramasa) when he has so much different np they can use but he's still not a servant
@@mirzapramudya1580 Pretty sure illya and miyu became servants since their abilities are heavily related to the 2nd magic. Since Sasaki's NP was a technique that was on the level of true magic, it would make sense that illya and miyu would be servants since their NP is basically just true magic.
@@mirzapramudya1580 yeah, another name for the 2nd magic is Kaleidoscope, and both of the Kaliedosticks were made with the 2nd magic by Zeltretch. Most of their combat features like their “downloads” utilize the 2nd magic to function.
@mirzapramudya1580 ik shirou is just a dude, but it would be cool for him to be in fgo and the fact that he's barley referenced aswell and they also just ignored emiya(servant) when it would've been a good opportunity for him to be summoned in the camelot singularity
Shirou probably used his mind's eye ability of his to always do a perfect shot. It'd be implacable to some types of gambling. It's not archer itself it's the mediative mindset itself that he has that is freakish and allows him to that sort of stuff.
so shirou now encounter dead apostles ? now i want him to encounter ryougi shikki and work for touko just to see shirou and shikki interaction i'm sure it would be interessing
Fate creators : Shirou? Nah he good, we wont touch his journey, possible becoming strongest master ever route, we will focus on Gudao and his fake ass harem and his talking only adventures!
Dang, my only suspicion, or thoughts is. Who got that Origin Bullet and why go through the trouble of either using it in a crime scene, or I suspect in this case... 'Frame'? Shirou or his pops Kiritsugu. That's the angle I'm trying to figure out.
Don’t know if you’re still interested or already know, but it’s a mage from atlas who idolizes Kiritsugu and is trying to be him. Shirou partially gets into all of this because he’s been retracing his father’s route, like tracking down places he would visit and stay as well as meet his old contacts, mainly just to learn more about him. The mafia is one of those contacts who armed Kiritsugu and helped him find the Einzbern castle after Fate/Zero. It’s pretty cool, Shirou has some cool scenes. He still has Avalon and is still healed by it, he traces vajra, it’s awesome.
Makes me really want more Shirou content. Something I really want is Emiyas story. What was different about his grail war and what he did after it in detail.
@@extremeotakugamer The guy above is not entirely right. It's true that Shiro's body in HF is a doll, and it's true that his real body was destroyed, but everything is fine. The puppet that replaces Shiro's body was made by Aoko. With a regular puppet this would indeed be impossible, but not with her puppets. Rin herself says at the end of HF that his body is no different from normal. He will also grow old and mature. This should also include the fact that he will be able to have children (and considering who he lives with, he will definitely have children) And yes, his children must be very strong, considering that Sakura herself is the Small Grail
@@mirzapramudya1580 Ritsuka... Hakuno... What a cringe. Shiki is ok cuz it's canon, but other 2 is just wet self-insert fantasies... Mandella Effect...
Always been curious what Shirou's plan on going about being a hero was. Like, he leaves home then what? How did he go about getting contacts and contracts? Did he join the military for more training? Another thing is money becuse I doubt being a hero is cheap
@subcommanderxelios800 it wouldn't make any sense. Shirou want to save people, mercenaries and other military organizations do not do it. Thought he can work with them to neutralize some dangerous people
It’s is legit criminal they haven’t any type of idk continuation of stay night like it would be so dope to get another vn that shows a time skip or something of what happen to shirou after each route 😭
Hollow Atraxia is suppose to be a continuation to Stay Night than not to UBW which Fate Stay Night and UBW are the only two different version stories to be played on anime. While HF has some similar but different scenes from like how Shinji died in two different routes one in Saber's route where he got wacked out by Illya's servant Berserker and in HF he died by Sakura and during closer to the finally to each route Shirou fights Kirei Kotomine in the final battle. They never changed a different villain in one of these routes should be told different and one thing also in Hollow Atraxia is why is Shinji still alive. He can still be alive in one version in UBW but in Stay Night he shouldn't be around in the story.
Bruh you really wanna know what I think it is. I think part of the reason Nasu won’t make it is cause he doesn’t know how to. Hear me out our sword boi would either have to jump into a parallel timeline like strange fake or grand order to maintain the fate aspect of a story. Cause the holy grail is already destroyed unless he participates in a false one. But if he does that then most of the fans will jump on it cause it’s our Sword boi but then be disappointed he ain’t got his own thing. But if he does a complete sequel then the sword boi would have one hell of a journey that if I’m being quite honest would be hard to write cause all of the routes end way different from each other. And even then would you just have so many endings that it would be hella difficult to write unless he shafts one route for all the others or vice versa
@@AdrianHernandez-ok6mz I think that’s honestly true tbh😂 I wanna see the true ending or end of a dream animated but honestly I can’t think of any way to move everybody stories further I guess
@@AdrianHernandez-ok6mz explain about how the servants were brought back out of nowhere in Fuyuki City Hollow Atraxia which would lead to a good ending to Stay Night that somehow Rin did a experiment with the jewel blade weapon at Illya's house may have cause a problem and it brought back servants in town being told in Illya's flashback what happen.
Where can i read this? I really like if Shirou going to interacting with Gray. If this squeal after FSN no matter the routes and he's with Rin, I wonder about the Avalon ending.
As for summary because i don't understand it 100%. 1)means the actuall shirou and Rin locked themselves in the box. 2)Then the two of them in the box, calling serval people from the future(3 year after the actuall Shirou and Rin)to get some help. 3)then Shirou get all the crazy talks(ka why the hell Rin doesn't even help him), after he search for help for them(ka why the hell are the actual Rin are not in the near from the actual Shirou). 4)plus, he(Shirou) have already won the Challenge from the dead Apostle. Ka where the hell I should put it between, before we got trapped in the box or after that??? Questions: 1)then why the fuck, he have some wierd and long talks with Rin from the Future if the actual Rin is with him in the box? 2)then when the fuck he(Shirou) got kidnapped from the Mafia? 3)then why the fuck, both of them locked themeselves in the Box in the first place? 4)then where the hell are they both? Together? In different Places? 5)plus you said that Rin are also search for Shirou, when the fuck she should search for him??? They both are locked in the box or not??? Sorry for teh hell and fuck word's, but I understand nothing. NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING. PLEASE HELP ME SOMEONE🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭
He fulfilled the condition, which was set by Merlin, by unknowingly chase after Saber for the rest of his life. (He realized that his heroic journey didn’t end because he hadn’t found Saber in his final moment in the LE)
Ah, so it's fate that Shirou, if he survives the Grail War and goes to England that ... he gains weight/becomes slightly chubby. Truly the most relatable anime character ever. Fish and Chips are just too good, huh, Emiya-kun?
"he got adducted by the mafia after trying to save a girl" may be the most shirou thing ive ever heard
Shirou and Touma really have that kind of bad luck.
@broosh4344 wouldn't stop him suffering
@@ssjokg4952 literally same characters at this point
@@ssjokg4952talking about bad luck… cu chulainn and his luck
Such misfortune
I really like the idea of shirou doing interesting things even when the story isn't focused on him it's nice to know that he's not just twiddling his thumbs all day.
Bro got himself a butler job which to him is easy as hell and probably pays out the ass while doing hero shit here and there
Nah let's get his name right everyone. The name is Himirou Himiya. Or Goatirou Himiya. Pick whatever one.
@@garytaylor8193😊
@@sleepylmguy9968 Himirou himiya is 😚👌
@@garytaylor8193 Not to mention his boss absolutely wants to ride his dick so he probably gets paid little extra. 😉
So in a nutshell, everyone wants a piece of Shirou, Dead Apostle Ancestor and Mafia included.
Accurate enough I suppose
Our boy Shriou still has the protag charm in full effect even after his own story. He is after all the poster boy of FATE. No matter what verse it is Shirou will come into mind of every person.
Me too
They want the bone of his sword
His Rizz is still EX in Ranking so yes
It's crazy how Dark the Nasuverse can get while also maintaining that some silly and downright hilarious incidents can happen because magic is real and you get good, bad, and the crazy all mixed in together.
Nasuverse (for me at least), is reimagining of what the real world would be if we do have magic and science together. It really shows how much human can grow if given the right kind knowledge. And it's not like most anime where only the MC is going to be strongest in the end.
There is many entity in the Nasuverse that strong or even Outright impossible to be overcome. This makes it so we can't really solve everything with just fighting and we had to have a plan for most situation. It really makes it interesting, and make the side Character in Nasuverse more interesting because everyone there is strong in their own way, like there is no truly weak Character if they are given the right kind of knowledge and training.
@@Patrick-tg6wm I still remember shitting on Rider with my friends when we first watched Fate UBW lmao. Then Heaven's Feel 2 came out and oh boy were we all flabbergasted..
Besides being one of the best worldbuilders in the business I think Nasu's greatest strength is the ability to strike a balance between action, horror, romance, and comedy. He can make all four work in a way that feels natural, which is something that very few japanese writers can pull off in my experience.
With shirou being kidnapped by the mafia it really makes me wonder what the criminal underworld is like in fate and how it interacts with the more supernatural elements of the setting.
Huh, that's an interesting thought. Imagine an organization like Black Dragons from Mortal Kombat in the Fate universe. Or something like the Assassination syndicate from John Wick, but Fate style. I mean technically Kenny is the closest thing to John Wick in fate. So who's to say he's the only assassin?
If organized crime is as efficient as they are in real life they are more han enough for dealing with mages
@@sleepylmguy9968something like the high table?
Fate Strange fake actually explores that and it is both interesting as well as disturbing when Mafia and Magic mix together.
@@There_Is_No_War_In_Ba_Sing_Se Exactly! Anything like that.
Harem Protegonist EX claimed a dead apostle ancestor 💀
😂😅
Damn straight
Unlimited Rizz Works claims another victim
Man I'll tell ya. If Shirou was the protagonist in Fate/GO. No one would safe from his Harem skill. They all would gotten a taste of that rizz. Heck I don't think Ritsuka themselves wouldn't be available to resist him. Them and Mashu would randomly throw it back at him if they saw his face.
@@sleepylmguy9968 i don't think shirou emiya will see and do nothing If some innocent people in LB just get erased
Him being in fgo Will be a nightmare to him then anything
Shirou's worth in the supernatural world has been clear ever since Stay Night, where in some of the bad endings, both Illya and Medea turn him into an object to be used.
People need to remember that Reality Marbles are SUPER RARE and their workings edge onto True Magic, regardless of their functionality. Having someone like Shirou could change anyone's reputation in the world of magecraft and beyond.
what do they do to shirou?
@@deus_noctis9810 Ilya turns him into a projection-casting doll. Medea turns him into a furnace.
@@o0Flavio950oJesus wtf
@@o0Flavio950ofurnace?
@@o0Flavio950o Ilya just turns him into a doll for her own amusement.
Medea threatens to turn him into a wand that makes use of his magecraft and/or just leaves his brain into a jar which later Rin destroys.
I'm curious what Shirou would think of Gray considering her whole condition of slowly turning into Artoria. Also just makes me want to see another season for the anime.
Gray and Rin actually met in book 1 of El-Melloi Adventures so I'm sure Shirou and Gray will see each other in this arc too. When she met Gray Rin froze up in shock at her face.
Rin and Waver already agreed that she should not meet Shirou since it may cause her transformation into Artoria to progress faster due to Artoria's memories from her time in Fate/SN
@@orrthehunter Know this now makes me almost certain that they are going to meet. They would not have brought up the fact that it could be dangerous without planning for it to happen at some point. Like, I love the El Melloi series, but it is always pretty obvious when something will be relevant later, and this feels like one of those things.
@@jacobbabson6786 Pretty sure that it wouldnt matter if they met as long as Shirou no longer has Avalon inside him.
@@ssjokg4952UBW Shirou still has Avalon. Though, this version of Shirou might have a similar to Fate route where he gave Avalon back to Saber.
My boy Shirou is getting on that grind even after stay/night? Lets F'ing GO!!!
Always knew my boy hero had a thing for playing games, also I can't remember if it was here or UBW but Luiva met him when she saved her from some random thugs with a sword in one hand and a bag of groceries in the other, I can't not smile
Bro had to keep the Iron Chef EX buff going. Key element to Eroge Protag EX.
That Harem protagonist EX skill, man. Shirou never gets a break, does he? You know, it has been stated that in Apocrypha (since its also an alternate world) Shirou is living in a romcom harem anime/manga with Rin, Lluvia, Sakura in Fuyuki...
Just glad that he's doing ok in one universe, at least....
Dude, he also do that in Illyaverse but more problematic as his HAREM PROTAG EX skill also affects his sisters and classmate
@amidabibjo1869 No real canon per se, BUT there are canons that are common enough to be grouped together within a certain grouping.
Shirou can even rizz boys....
Does his Rizz have no bounds?
@@HDLLHANZ If you see him trying to do a highjump and fail...you are done, his rizz just gets you.
@amidabibjo1869There is a canon actually. Anhenerbe is a canon place with non canon events. FGO's events such as summer or other silly things are canon insofar as they're considered something that happened but not everything that happens in the game is canon.
Future Rin was one of the best things from FHA, shows some character development on how she went from tsundere to dropping the tsun and went full dere for Shirou once she got older. Even got a bit of yandere in there once someone started to insult Shirou. Shame we can't say the same for El melloi's future Rin who is still as tsundere as ever.
El Melloi is probably the most direct sequel we will ever get for Stay Night and honestly they are doing a fantastic job with it.
Is it a sequel to Saber route or Unlimited Blade Works
I'm not sure but I think it's UBW.. I have no avidance for my claim here btw. I'm just assuming.@@fardin_king6817
Um.. Hollow ataraxia is the Direct sequel. or fd
@@fardin_king6817As far as I’m aware, neither. It doesn’t really focus on any of the characters from FSN, so it’s hard to say. I know Rin shows up but obviously she would because she doesn’t die or disappear in any of the FSN true endings.
If we ignore all of the timelines stuff, the sequel is Case Files and Strange Fake, considering Waver's students (including Rin) are participating in Snowfield grail war.
Hollow Ataraxia is not that far into the future afaik.
Fucking love hes just doing hero shit and getting himself into weird magical situations everywhere.
If El Melloi ever shows how he and Rin dismantle the greater grail, i sure hope they bring him along for the adventure
Im more curious if zouken or sakura get involved since he would want the greater grail more than anyone. Unless he just happened to die under ten years before the grails completion despite living for over 500.
Shirou to this day Adding up his harem what a chad
Nah that's not Shirou. That's Goatirou Himyia!
I wish we could see more of Shirou and his adventures as a mage. We know that in one of the alternative timelines, dude was going around hunting Kiara Sesshouin which resulted in some really nasty business.
Before anyone tries to force a head canon. It's a Casino. He beat Van Fem in gambling, not a fight. Still impressive though
That one mofo trying to reason how shirou could summon Muramasa temporarily inside himself and then wreck Van Fem
@@5L1G_Zeref Even for me a certified EMIYA wanker that's just too much 🤣
@@5L1G_Zeref Lmao 😂😂Yo imagine if Natsu make that sh*t canon. Just to mess with the power scalers and cause he knows the fanbase love Shirou. He makes him broken as hell. That sounds like something he would do.
Wait that DOES sound like something he would do. Just like any version of Artoria. Plus he is the author. He can do whatever he want. Oh no. Quick knock on wood everyone!
@@mirzapramudya1580 I mean he technically bodied Herc when he and Archer were working together and another time with Artoria
@@sleepylmguy9968 Nasu probably had to rewrite fate stay night before he would ever attempt that.
Turns out Rin really is defenseless when it comes to Shirou
His Harem curse energy emits everytime like air even going as far to alternate world.
The back to back uploads is crazy
Yes🎉🎉🎉
We seriously need a sequel of some kind to Shiro's story.
Bro yes!!!
True
Hollow of Ataraxia: Am I a joke to you?
@@DarthFhenix55 but ain’t that more angra manyu’s story at the end of the day?
@@DarthFhenix55 no, I meant one that goes beyond that. Like something that would show how he becomes a servant, the things he goes through after leaving Fuyuki... Etc
I would love to see an actual sequel of UBW route, where Shiro and Rin do stuff together
I mean they got the cooking show spinoff.
This is material they can use for another visual novel. Shirou has been missed by the OG Fate fans and i think it's time we continue my boy's story.
Im okay with Shirou not being the mc but i want him to atleast appear in every fate story as a side character you know cause he's a hero who help everyone. Finally my boy Shiro getting the recognition he deserved
Side character for Shirou should been in Fate Kaleid Liner for him. I don't like how they brought another Shirou from Miyu's universe that took the spotlight away from Illya when one is enough in Illya's universe living a normal life with his real parents/or Illya's parents not going through broken down path life. And not being bother by being a magus family.
True, while i understand he can't be present everywhere there is conflict. I do expect him to appear once the stakes are high enough, like stopping a HGW or any possible high threat that could lead to alot of people dying. Goes hand in hand with the whole "Hero" business. (Still waiting for him to actually appear in fate fake strange).
@@yarigold will Shirou won't appear in Strange Fake but Strange Fake along with two other conclusion stories Kagetsu Tohya and Hollow Atraxia are these three thing where I'm senseing that something will happen which we would be getting a crossover mix stories with characters from Tsukihime, Fate Stay Night characters, Strange Fake characters and characters from Lord Elmolli case file characters to appear and it would also have Shirou to meet Ceil in a crossover mix story series.
It's hard to put Shirou into other stories cause then comes the question of which Shirou is he Fate route UBW or HF depending on which he would be very different
EVERY story? Ya crazy?
Imagine how cool would be to see Shirou and Shiki hunting Dead Apostles together
I just think his e rank luck turned to EX so that he wouldn't die and then immediately went back to e rank luck because he denied the prize and therefore now has an apostle ancestor interested in him.
I'm actually glad to know more about Shirou after the grail war, I'm ok that he's a side character in sequels at least in the case files, and when other nasu characters pop up I was waiting for him to show up at some point, at least we get to hear more about him.
Van-Fem's existence really makes me question the morals of all of the other Ancestors. I know alot of them are mage turned vampire so that comes with morals that range from morally grey to evil,, but what of the others? What are their goals and stance on humans?
If I remember correctly very so often dead apostles go into vampirism induced madness where they kill everyone they love, so I guess over the years it's easy to just give up on that and give in even f you are okay dude. Van-Fem is old as dirt so he might have overcome it long ago and can just do as he wants as long as he eats some people once in a while, but others like him are just as old and that alone is a problem. Imagine what fucked up backwards shit an eighty year old that does not let go of the past can say in real world, now imagine the same from a guy that was 500 years old when Jesus was born...
there are 3 main factions with the Ancestors. Van Fem is basically the leader of the pro keep the status quo faction. he is pro human but that is relative to the others. the Crimson Moon faction is the one that is the most dangerous to humans and is being led by Arcueid's loli sister. this faction is mostly interested in "reviving" the progenitor of all vamps (think Sukuna from Jujutsu Kaisen but on steroids) and there is a faction that wants humans to become cattle and take over the world. there are the independents too are all over the place
Correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure Van Fem in this world line isn't a Dead Apostle Ancestor? But instead just a Dead Apostle?
Scratch that, since The Adventure of El Melloi II takes place in a more mainline Fate world compared to per say Strange Fake? (Which is a mix of Tsukihime and Fate) Where DAA isn't even a thing due to the lack of Crimson Moon and other stuff that make DAA thrives in Tsukihime.
In this world I assume he's just a chill Dead Apostle who likes humanity I guess.
For anyone who is curious, Shirou is pretty cool in this arc of Case files. He has Kanshou and Bakuya, uses a bow, likely Archer’s, he can trace Vajra, has Avalon still and gets healing from it, and has been traveling around learning more about Kiritsugu. One of the bad guys is a mage who idolizes and is trying to be Kiritsugu. Shirou does fight this guy. Hope Tsiah covers the story as it is now.
Nice video on Emiya Shirou beyond the Fate/Stay Night Route.
🙏 thanks for another great video !
you got it boss
i always thought that shiro and shiki would eventually fight and kill each other.
The battle of the HIMs. It would be magnificent. HIMirou. vs SkiHIM or HIMki.
@@mirzapramudya1580that they’re HIM.
Probably not. Shiki is dying by the time Shirou starts hitting his peak.
@@joker-0723Shikai can one shot with points. And gets far stronger in the future.
@yujiandou4658 yeah but he's also burning himself out with each use. The Eclipse scene you get at the end of Tsukihime is all about that. He's going to die young because of the strain of his mystic eyes.
To be honest, I would love a sequel to Fate Stay Night, and I'm not talking about Hollow ataraxia. I'm talking about years later.
i thought fate/hollow is epilogue of FSN specific heaven feel version of FSN
the man shiro been doin cartwheels on real world logic, lol. at least yorokobe wasn't there to make him do something impulsive...
I know that Shiki from garden of sinners exist in the El Mol timeline. Is too much to hope she makes an appearance as head of Japanese criminal family
Really? Then that means that tohno shiki doesn't exist in there so we won't see him appear at all, even if he is from a big influential family.
Maybe not. According to the wiki page Hisui name drops the Ryougi family in Tsukihime so maybe they can both exist after all?
@@criminalisticL3 well, then it might be that in tsukihime worlds, the ryougi family might have not developed 2 personalities, so ryougi shiki couldn’t have survived and gotten the MEODP. And maybe in fate and knk worlds, since there are no DAA’s SHIKI might not have killed tohno shiki so tohno didn’t get the MEODP (though I forgot whether SHIKI got the impulse to kill tohno shiki because of Roa or if it was purely because of the demon blood). Though I don’t think that ryougi shiki and tohno shiki can fully exist in the same world, since ryougi’s current self is because of her other personality dying when she got the MEODP, and tohno shiki was created when nanaya got sealed away after SHIKI caused tohno to get the MEODP
@@criminalisticL3 The Ryougi family exists in both timelines, but Ryougi Shiki herself is a bit iffy. She definitely exists in Fate, but we don't know about Tsukihime.
Wow. Nice to know what's up with our boy post Night. Thanks.
Fuck Yes I live for and have been dying for this!!!
I love when you upload it truly makes my day. I’m glad you do what you do and show so much love to my most favorite thing. Much love.
The more I look at adult Shirou, the more he starts to look like Archer
fun details
in Fate/Unlimited Codes, if you have a match between Luvia and Shirou and she wins, she will mention that she finds Shirou interesting, and he has potentials - he should become her Butler.
I wonder if he got weaker/stronger or if the mafia is really that well equipped to taking out a mage that can go toe to toe with servants
He didn't go toe to toe with any servants here. Remember, this doesn't directly follow the routes, so any fights where he hacked his progress, gil, emiya, herc, salter, hasn't occurred. What we do know from Alexandre dumas is that he DOES get good without help, but it's still a few years out around 23ish. We will see.
Shirou was always about compatibility. He could face some Servants due to circumstances but doesnt mean he can face an entire group with guns.
Toe to toe is kinda unfair when even with Gil he realized heavily on his arrogance and Rin's mana. And at the end he didnt even manage to kill him, Archer did.
@@ssjokg4952 shirou surivives alot of servants and defends himself alot alot. He aint no boy scout, id assume he could take on 100 people and win
@@Hetsu.. Shirou survives a lot of Servant attacks because they hold back, they are ridiculously nerfed, stop the last second, he himself has ridiculous different buffs, Avalon's healing power, his powers work specifically counter to them, or are saved by others.
100 people? Easy.
100 people with guns is a different story.
Not to mention the mafia has connections with mages so things get even more complicated.
Yes after so long my hero is back happiest day 🎉❤🥰
The only Shirou story I want to know is how he became Emiya Alter. I want a manga form or novel about it.
The FGO manga of Seraphix kind of goes into it. You can read it and you’ll pretty much learn what made him that way.
I loved the fate ubw route the most and rin is my best girl in anime so to know their relationship blossomed is so great to hear.
shirou really has harem ex skill just one jump all girls fall in love
MY BOY IS BACKKKK LET'S GOOOOOO
Rizz master Shirou Emiya.
After all these year he still am has ex luck that’s crazy
I feel like nasu forgets about shirou sometimes
He not forgetting about the character he put the most effort in
@tokotai1758 they do put effort into shirou, but the fact that illya is an actual servant in fgo, but shirou isn't (by that, I mean fate stay night shirou and not emiya or emiya alter or muramasa) when he has so much different np they can use but he's still not a servant
@@mirzapramudya1580 Pretty sure illya and miyu became servants since their abilities are heavily related to the 2nd magic. Since Sasaki's NP was a technique that was on the level of true magic, it would make sense that illya and miyu would be servants since their NP is basically just true magic.
@@mirzapramudya1580 yeah, another name for the 2nd magic is Kaleidoscope, and both of the Kaliedosticks were made with the 2nd magic by Zeltretch. Most of their combat features like their “downloads” utilize the 2nd magic to function.
@mirzapramudya1580 ik shirou is just a dude, but it would be cool for him to be in fgo and the fact that he's barley referenced aswell and they also just ignored emiya(servant) when it would've been a good opportunity for him to be summoned in the camelot singularity
Shirou probably used his mind's eye ability of his to always do a perfect shot. It'd be implacable to some types of gambling. It's not archer itself it's the mediative mindset itself that he has that is freakish and allows him to that sort of stuff.
I wish to have as many routes as Shirou one day
You know UBW is supposed to be Shirou Emiya route than not a Rin route.
@@WinterFlowerSakura now admittedly, haven't played the VN, but I don't believe it has a yaoi scene.
with his involvement of death apostles, i think we can know the reason why kiritsugu"s father norikata emiya research about it
Quick question do you guys think that dorothea from samurai remnant is the same girl as the dorothea that became jester
requesting for a don't sleep on ozymandias day 65
I will like to hear more of what happend to shirou.
so shirou now encounter dead apostles ? now i want him to encounter ryougi shikki and work for touko just to see shirou and shikki interaction i'm sure it would be interessing
They try kill each other on sight
I always wondered what happened post fsn ubw or fate. Thanks
sigh... I really want a fate hollow anime adaptation. That april fools prank a couple years ago was so damn brutal.
Once he becomes a counter guardian all bets are off. He’s working for the world, no exceptions. Lol
Fate creators :
Shirou? Nah he good, we wont touch his journey, possible becoming strongest master ever route, we will focus on Gudao and his fake ass harem and his talking only adventures!
Shirou always f&ck his harem makes this thing worse than cardboard mc
@@Demanded464still better than fujimaru
@@anonymous-wu9md Stop acting like Shirou D*cK
@@Demanded464 *stop acting like fujimaru D*cK
@@anonymous-wu9mdAt least Fujimaru, not Porn Mc like Shirou.
And looking at the Shirou character design, it seems like a hentai step son character 😹😹
Honestly I wish we had more post fate shirou content
Shirou! Shirou! We need more Shirou!
Dang, my only suspicion, or thoughts is. Who got that Origin Bullet and why go through the trouble of either using it in a crime scene, or I suspect in this case... 'Frame'? Shirou or his pops Kiritsugu. That's the angle I'm trying to figure out.
My theory which don't take it seriously it's the enizbern maybe kiritsgu left a bullet or something or maybe they dug his grave or something
Don’t know if you’re still interested or already know, but it’s a mage from atlas who idolizes Kiritsugu and is trying to be him. Shirou partially gets into all of this because he’s been retracing his father’s route, like tracking down places he would visit and stay as well as meet his old contacts, mainly just to learn more about him. The mafia is one of those contacts who armed Kiritsugu and helped him find the Einzbern castle after Fate/Zero. It’s pretty cool, Shirou has some cool scenes. He still has Avalon and is still healed by it, he traces vajra, it’s awesome.
Makes me really want more Shirou content. Something I really want is Emiyas story. What was different about his grail war and what he did after it in detail.
This remind me of nasu quote about shirou after stay night
"Shirou will never make it to adulthood no matter the route"
Bruh too many universes it’s hard to get invested. Doesn’t feel like it matters anymore.
Cant wait to see UBW in this novel and waver jaw dropped
Please talk nore about Shirou and his future.
Shigoat Himiya bouta rizz up the entire mafia, mark my words.
11:04 "French Accident" WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HELL IS HAPPENING IN FRANCE??? BATMAN BOUTA SHOW UP FOR REAL
hmm shirou is going to tsukihime's remake story and try to find more girls, thats why he is fighting dead apostles
I really would love a sequel on how shirou reaches avalon for seiba
I love to see this as a anime shirou being taken by the mafia they should make anime from the future that be cool 😊
I hope in Heaven's Feel Shirou and Sakura had a happy life until the end of their lives.
If they had children they would have talent for magecraft?
Children is impossible to have because shirou is a doll. Shirou body already gone so rin and sakura put his soul to the doll body.
@@aliffirdaus6986 Now I'm sad =(
@@extremeotakugamer The guy above is not entirely right.
It's true that Shiro's body in HF is a doll, and it's true that his real body was destroyed, but everything is fine.
The puppet that replaces Shiro's body was made by Aoko. With a regular puppet this would indeed be impossible, but not with her puppets.
Rin herself says at the end of HF that his body is no different from normal. He will also grow old and mature.
This should also include the fact that he will be able to have children (and considering who he lives with, he will definitely have children)
And yes, his children must be very strong, considering that Sakura herself is the Small Grail
@@rushan4ikk Thank you my friend!
Now I'm very happy 😄
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone!
@@extremeotakugamer Happy to help)
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Where is my: Shirou is a beast candidate for lust
@@mirzapramudya1580 Ritsuka... Hakuno... What a cringe. Shiki is ok cuz it's canon, but other 2 is just wet self-insert fantasies... Mandella Effect...
@@ruzzlegames118Ritsuka, maybe.
But Hakuno is a character of its own. And Ritsuka is slowly getting a character himself.
@@ruzzlegames118as if shirou deserves on , considering shirou fan self insert him more harder than ritsuka self insert with harem protagonist quotes.
Always been curious what Shirou's plan on going about being a hero was. Like, he leaves home then what? How did he go about getting contacts and contracts? Did he join the military for more training? Another thing is money becuse I doubt being a hero is cheap
Either hes getting it from luvia or hes got some charity going id imagine.
I like idea of Shirou joining the military or a military associated organization. Maybe as a mercenary of some kind.
@subcommanderxelios800 it wouldn't make any sense. Shirou want to save people, mercenaries and other military organizations do not do it. Thought he can work with them to neutralize some dangerous people
It’s is legit criminal they haven’t any type of idk continuation of stay night like it would be so dope to get another vn that shows a time skip or something of what happen to shirou after each route 😭
Hollow Atraxia is suppose to be a continuation to Stay Night than not to UBW which Fate Stay Night and UBW are the only two different version stories to be played on anime. While HF has some similar but different scenes from like how Shinji died in two different routes one in Saber's route where he got wacked out by Illya's servant Berserker and in HF he died by Sakura and during closer to the finally to each route Shirou fights Kirei Kotomine in the final battle. They never changed a different villain in one of these routes should be told different and one thing also in Hollow Atraxia is why is Shinji still alive. He can still be alive in one version in UBW but in Stay Night he shouldn't be around in the story.
Bruh you really wanna know what I think it is. I think part of the reason Nasu won’t make it is cause he doesn’t know how to. Hear me out our sword boi would either have to jump into a parallel timeline like strange fake or grand order to maintain the fate aspect of a story. Cause the holy grail is already destroyed unless he participates in a false one. But if he does that then most of the fans will jump on it cause it’s our Sword boi but then be disappointed he ain’t got his own thing.
But if he does a complete sequel then the sword boi would have one hell of a journey that if I’m being quite honest would be hard to write cause all of the routes end way different from each other. And even then would you just have so many endings that it would be hella difficult to write unless he shafts one route for all the others or vice versa
@@AdrianHernandez-ok6mz I think that’s honestly true tbh😂 I wanna see the true ending or end of a dream animated but honestly I can’t think of any way to move everybody stories further I guess
@@AdrianHernandez-ok6mz explain about how the servants were brought back out of nowhere in Fuyuki City Hollow Atraxia which would lead to a good ending to Stay Night that somehow Rin did a experiment with the jewel blade weapon at Illya's house may have cause a problem and it brought back servants in town being told in Illya's flashback what happen.
@@WinterFlowerSakuraIt was the grial's magic. The game literally tells you that.
Where can i read this? I really like if Shirou going to interacting with Gray. If this squeal after FSN no matter the routes and he's with Rin, I wonder about the Avalon ending.
i dont think heaven feel shirou will go with rin.
and of course fate shirou will go with rin. he barelly get any stronger.
Which series is this from after UBW? El melloi?
Yoo bro Shirou gaming
Does Emiya or Rin ever meet Gray...wonder what their reaction would be
Rin has in this book series. She was so shocked that she froze up in the middle of a fight.
I want a fsn sequel
As for summary because i don't understand it 100%.
1)means the actuall shirou and Rin locked themselves in the box.
2)Then the two of them in the box, calling serval people from the future(3 year after the actuall Shirou and Rin)to get some help.
3)then Shirou get all the crazy talks(ka why the hell Rin doesn't even help him), after he search for help for them(ka why the hell are the actual Rin are not in the near from the actual Shirou).
4)plus, he(Shirou) have already won the Challenge from the dead Apostle. Ka where the hell I should put it between, before we got trapped in the box or after that???
Questions:
1)then why the fuck, he have some wierd and long talks with Rin from the Future if the actual Rin is with him in the box?
2)then when the fuck he(Shirou) got kidnapped from the Mafia?
3)then why the fuck, both of them locked themeselves in the Box in the first place?
4)then where the hell are they both? Together? In different Places?
5)plus you said that Rin are also search for Shirou, when the fuck she should search for him??? They both are locked in the box or not???
Sorry for teh hell and fuck word's, but I understand nothing. NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING.
PLEASE HELP ME SOMEONE🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭
Dont worry about it
Bro that e rank luck finally did something to him
whats the background music ?
I never do gambling but at least I know Shirou will be good at playing Mahjong.
I hope they explain how in the hell he got to avalon even tho that's very much impossible
merlin helped him
@@JaeyXVI why tho
@@theplaguedoctor6271 cause he wants artoria to be happy
He fulfilled the condition, which was set by Merlin, by unknowingly chase after Saber for the rest of his life. (He realized that his heroic journey didn’t end because he hadn’t found Saber in his final moment in the LE)
More Shiro let's gooo
Fate/EMIYA Unlimited Blade Works.
I'll pay money for that.
I'd to see him interact with Gray
After grail war ends, shirou gets most powerful wish... Live with Rin. And when all servant dissapear, he started his married life.
Luvia Route unlocked?
I wish shirou appears in fgo and meet artoria Lancer
Me too but you to think from stroy pov shirou will get crushed due pure gulit or he will go insane, default to mind of steel
Nice
Ah, so it's fate that Shirou, if he survives the Grail War and goes to England that ... he gains weight/becomes slightly chubby.
Truly the most relatable anime character ever. Fish and Chips are just too good, huh, Emiya-kun?
YESSSS
Dead Apostles.
From Tsukihime??
The more things change the more they stay the same
could you guys explain to me what series he's talking about? what route is this shirou...? sorry im really confused lol
Lord El-Melloi II Adventures. its a light novel and in the same timeline as fate stay night but doesnt follow a specific route
@@JaeyXVI ah i see, thank you. I need to finish the FSN VN myself but its taking a bit. I just want to get to fate hollow for the happy ending ;-;
So this is a path were none of the routes are taken into account, as in, he didnt get romanticaly involved with anybody?