The 2021 MacBook will probably get way better battery life and a much more consistent upgrade cycle. But by going ARM we lose a lot of the good stuff X86 delivered. And it also means no more Bootcamp. Do you think this is Apple's future? Do you like it??!
SuperHyphyOne : But Apple TV is a consumer product. Macs aren't. Look at which scores Apple advertises for the iMac - Final Cut Pro X, Logic Pro X, Adobe Photoshop, Lightroom, .... -- all Pro apps; The iMac Pro is just the "bigger brother" of the iMac - for big companies. But both versions of the iMac and all screen sizes (21.5" and 27") are only targeting pros, according to Apple... Apple has given up the consumers on the Mac years ago (which is why it's confusing that they even put out Apple Arcade on the Mac at all...)
Eric Freiberg they put Apple Arcade on the Mac for consistency with its other platforms especially after developing Catalyst. They only show those scores on the higher end models because those are the products that are targeted towards professionals. They don’t show scores for its lower end models like the MacBook Air or base 13” MacBook Pro because those aren’t targeted to them. Those are “consumer” products, albeit a bit on the expensive side.
Eric Freiberg Macs aren’t consumer products, but MacBooks are. The MacBook Air is the best selling laptop on Amazon. It’s marketed towards students and writers who just need a decent laptop for word processing and light entertainment consumption.
Alex no. They dropped the ball. Having a higher integration between the manufacturing and designing operations means that they’re not working well together.
@@random_bit LMAO I dont care about that if AMD chips kill Intel chips in benchmarks, and is priced better. You have to be a clown to own an Intel instead of a Ryzen.
@@louiscarpenter7144 but to be fair, that is a good price floor for the performance you'll be getting. But I know for people like me, that isn't really easy to afford, even if I'm from a middle class family. Not complaining about the price, because it's a really good value, but I'm just saying it's not pocket change for the average joe.
I really hope they don't just raise the price exponentially, then just justify the price raise by *claiming* that the ARM is, like, ten times better than anything else.
This old news, this was public news 3-4 years ago that Apple was working on putting ARM chip in their macbooks. There are already ARM based Windows notebooks for over 6 years already. The 1st gen Windows Surface RT uses ARM based CPU made by Nvidia.
yeah i was gonna buy it this summer, but idk now if sinking a couple thousand into a new computer now is worth it if next year there's going to be a huge jump in performance for the same price
@@raff1944 its the same every couple of years where it makes a lot of performance difference. personally get the best you can now and just live with it
@Sleep Less I totally agree with you in this matter. I'm not a Macbook user but my friends are. My laptop and even my desktop with powerful components have been aging year by year but their Macbooks seem not as much. Sometimes I have chances to use their around 5 year old Macbooks and compare to my devices, mines sucks at best.
I've been using a dell xps 15 for 3 years and still very strong, I added a egpu using thunderbolt 3 and I get desktop performance for gaming. I also own a ipad for typing, reading and it's absolutely perfect.. imo its better to get a win/linux laptop and ipad but if you cant afford it I guess macbook are still good.
There is a similarity between Apple & Iron man. Both sell the weapons (iphone) for huge sum & then send Iron Man (Updates) to destroy it. and then they turn of comments
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Hahahaha Dave just convinced me not to purchase the MB Air 2020. I was excited to purchase it after the lockdown/quaratine. Guess I have to hold my excitement till next year. Damn it, Dave!
Me last year: aight I'm gonna buy this 13 inch MacBook Rumours: new 13 inch MacBook to follow the new 16 inch releasing soon Me this year: nothings releasing ill buy it now Dave: new Macbooks releasing next year Me: ...
@@brunokaufmannfigueiredo8153 Actually on the contrary, the 8 was better than the X, mainly cause there was less screen, allowing for the processor to work more efficiently.
Other reason is profit, why share the profit with intel or amd if apple could take it all. And if the arm macbook is a success apple will slowly replacing their other macbook.
Their chips would still be ARM, and use the widespread ARM instruction set. Sure, Apple would add in their own features like an integrated T2, but I'm sure the Hackintosh community would find a way to make it work.
Apple doesn't care about the Hackintosh community, it's such a small fraction of the customer base it has no effect on them financially. The switch to ARM will kill the Hackintosh community, but it's not the reason Apple is doing this at all, that will just happen to be a by-product of the switch. They're doing this just so they have better control over their products like Dave said in the video. Especially since Intel's development has been so ridiculously lackluster for the last few years. Also these ARM chips will START in the lower end Macs, but eventually be put in the Mac Pro/iMac Pros/Macbook Pros too. They are going to work their way up the product line with the ARM chips, by that point, developers will likely have ported even pro x86 apps to be able to run on the ARM chips.
@@DelwinChowhan That's a pretty inconsiderate way of thinking. Phones are hard devices to make in terms of the precision required for their assembly, engineering, etc. And you have to integrate a lot of antennas in iPhones and iPads as well, which cost a ton of money. With Macs, maybe they won't be any cheaper but they will integrate 5G antennas into Macbooks. Or, bring FaceID and other new features.
@@utubekullanicisi "FaceID" *Windows Hello Intensifies" Also, ARM chips are less powerful than normal pc chips. That's a fact. So they should cost less. Not that Apple will lower it's prices
You say that as if it were a bad thing, apple is amazing targeting specific consumer groups. And for the people who only do these things products like these are a godsend, Why force your consumer into buying a more expensive laptop for things that they don't really need?
@King Wiwuz IV Well, first, the touchbar is ONLY on the high end Macbook Pro... secondly, most of the developers hated it because it replaced the keys (that amazing esc-key right) so it couldn't be used for something useful if u wanted to have the keys... third, many developers that work on a MBP, half of the time use a Mac in docked mode which made it unreachable for productivity anyway... Overall the touchbar is TRASH.
@@hanes2 And an hypotetical ARM Mac would be only ONE line of products in a sea of x86 based machines. So the incentives to develop a load of ARM apps wouldn't be so strong...
@@IlRovina The biggest challenge for apple is emulating existing x86 apps and windows failed on that, horribly. I think to overcome that apple should take the Chrome OS's route, bring iPad OS/iOS apps to MacOS. With Play Store integration on Chrome OS it solved the lack of apps especially essential apps (before, there are no native (non-web) apps on Chrome OS). But that will probably kill some of iPad's userbase since the apps is now available on the ARM Macbook, the only advantage to iPad is now solely the touchscreen itself.
They would never lower the price. If they pass along the savings to the consumers, don't expect that to mean the MB will be cheaper. It just means they will insert something else to balance the cost. Like upgrading that shitty front camera on our MBPs and bragging like they revolutionized video chat.
@@_officialmigs Honestly, I could do with better front cameras. No mainstream manufacturer these days have made an actually good laptop front camera, the closest being Microsoft's Surface lineup and obviously Apple's MacBook Pro. On Apple lowering prices, it's too early to tell in my opinion. Apple has lowered prices before, and also didn't. Although, they may have to lower prices due to lower demand for devices nowadays, especially after the pandemic.
They are selling the iphone SE 2 for a low price, even though it has the most advanced A13 bionic chip, so I’m still having my hopes up that they’d also sell the macbooks at a lower price
"relatively smooth in the user experience, we're not gonna see like... " He's going to pull out a Surface Pro X. He's going to pull out a Surface Pro X.
That's not ungrounded optimism. You see the price of Apple's iPhone SE 2020. I guess Apple is focusing on developing its Subscription services now, so it is adapting the "Cheap Printer, Expensive Ink" model.
All I can say is that this is an end of an era for developers like me. For over a decade i have enjoyed using my macbook pro for developing server software compiled for x-86 64 architecture. If x-86 is no longer available on mac ill probably switch to linux because there is really no point in developing my code for both architectures. Before you say ill be able to compile on mac using cross platform tools... there is really no point. The type of server software i work on will never be deployed on an ARM architecture. I have no interest in developing cross platform compile routines just to accommodate my development environment.
Dave: "Whether or not Apple kind of pockets the difference or passes those savings on down to the consumer..." Apple: Sells four non-locking computer wheels for $700
Whether he meant iPhone or iPad the point still stands. ARM processing is way more efficient and way more powerful in a portable form factor. Apple needs to get a move on with ARM based MacBooks. The iPad Pro from 2018 shouldn’t be outperforming laptop’s in 2020, but it does....
Dave: Developers are not going to have any problem switching Developers: ** raises eyes in expectation ** Dave: They are going to do whatever they want to do despite whatever developer thinks. *And that's good*. They don't have any options. Developers: What?? Dave: They're good at not caring about developers.
Seriously, this sounded like a cult recruitment video for so much of it. But also, nah. Can you imagine the opportunity for Microsoft in an environment where they can incentivize devs to force software to run in x86 emulation on macbooks so they can make it into a meme that software just runs slower on those? You never want to underestimate MS's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but it's such an easy opportunity to show obvious benchmarks running at a snail's pace for unoptimized software, particularly after their own Surface experiment bombed spectacularly.
Nothing new from Apple. Apple always sets the standards for their devices and if you don't meet the standards you get left behind. Because if you aren't going to, then one of the other many, many competitors on the App Store will.
@@_officialmigs It depends on who you are and what you make. There's plenty of software out there that doesn't need to care about Mac. I mean, Blender doesn't. Games don't. A whole bunch of software can survive just fine without Mac, which in the large scheme of consumer electronics is a *tiny* fraction of the install base. Office and Adobe CC will optimize for it (and have already announced this), but the historic reason Apple struggled with software was the open platform small devs that were more than happy to not bother with the non-intel Macs.
They did it with the iPhone 11 - because their ARM chip was already way faster than any non-Apple ARM chip, so they decided to focus on battery life instead of performance with the A13 - as the A12 is just simply fast enough for anything happening on a phone already. Probably won't do this on laptops nearly as much as laptops tend to be able to make use of higher processor speed.
mac used to be powerpc chip which basically a ARM... they change to x86 due to alot of program come from pc and intel just can get them a stable demand of chip for cheap... going back was not surpring..
Do you think Apple does "mean" things just to piss off their customers? Why would they do that? If you piss off your customers, they won't come back. Again, nobody is being forced to buy Apple products.
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@@dylanl461 It might be coming out in a couple months, it might be worth the wait but also why not an IPAD? I just have the Ipad 10.2 and a case from amazon with keyboard for 35 bucks and the apple pencil 1st gen. I have the microsoft apps, notability, book shelf for all my books, and canvas/school portal, reminders, mail and spotify. I take it everywhere, its lightweight and i have everything saved into a cloud drive, in case i ever lose my ipad. I am in second year of med school currently and I am dominating my peers who have a lot more expensive gadgets and gizmos all with a base model ipad and a cheap case. If youre dedicated to learn and want to put in the time, it doesnt matter the device, you will get there. If you have the money, you can even get the 12.9 inch ipad pro of last year for a cheaper price or the newer one of this year. But i dont know the amount of workload you might have so its just a suggestion. Good luck in school and in your future endeavors. Cheers mate :)
You’re in high school. You shouldn’t need a great laptop for now. You could wait and save some money to upgrade the laptop of your choice. Also, you shouldn’t wait for the arm laptop if you really need one. Apple hasn’t yet developed the tools to transition from x86 to Arm architecture. You need to wait 2 to 3 years so that developers are able to program their software for both arm and x86. You shouldn’t be the guy on the team that cannot use a software for a group project and end up tripping everyone’s feet because the softwares are not compatible with each other.
Would've been really cool to see an arm chip in the air this year. The next couple years will probably show a lot of movement that way, pretty exciting. If only we could get decent data plans to go along with our new laptops sporting arm chips.
I am fortunate enough to own a 12" MacBook my dad uses, and to have decided before lockdown to purchase a 16" MacBook Pro. With rumors of ARM MacBooks continually being pushed further out, even though we know how great these computers are going to be, for someone like me I've decided they're for consideration the NEXT time I buy a laptop, not right now. If you need a laptop, go ahead and get one today. The 16" MacBook Pro is a no compromises awesome machine, and the 12" MacBook can be found used for under $800 in the U.S. The new MacBook Air is also good if you need something new but lighter and less pricey than the 16" MacBook Pro. If you're reading this in 2021, I'd wait for ARM, but for now, just get a Mac! I upgraded to the 16" MacBook Pro from a 2012 15" MacBook Pro and passed the latter to my mom. In total I used the 2012 MacBook Pro for three and a half years, and I imagine we enthusiasts won't be holding onto laptops for longer than that, so your next upgrade cycle really isn't _that long_ from now.
I actually think Apple finally decided to go ARM in their laptops due to AMD's badass processor presentation this year. Apple went to Intel, asked if they were going to do something about it, to innovate. Intel hesitated and answered with vague promises. Bam, decision made.
@@alherrera9390 or maybe because they simply have the resources to make such tech in house without the need to rely on anyone else but themselves. don't be surprised if apple soon starts making their own gpus and hell with amd, nivida and even intel altogether.
@@Dan-oy7pr Intel tried to make GPUs, they failed miserably. AMD is still 5 years behind Nvidia. Just think how much time it will take for Apple to bring Nvidia level GPUs. Even if they succeed, that GPU will only be available on Mac devices. So it won't be much of a deal. The final point is the pricing. I don't even want to think about the calculations they will make to rob people of their money.
@@djigi2002 um, them making their own to be only in their own product is kind of the point, like how this video is about ARM. Your comment shows you have no comprehension and you just wanting to flex irrelevant knowledge to the topic at hand.
@@djigi2002 Apple will probably still use AMD or Nvidia GPUs in their computers if they switched to in-house processors. When Apple used PowerPc processors they actually used PC graphics cards in the same computers.
@@nishantrajani7372 If someone wants their data to be unrecoverable he would just choose to encrypt the drive. That would make the data impossible to recover. But to not be able to recover data on an unencrypted disk would be a design flaw in my opinion
@@RafiqueHola to be fair a couple of years ago the Exynos version of their phones were fairly better than the Snapdragon ones, so not much of an excuse, the competitors got better.
Hey Dave, here are 2 video ideas for you to explore. 1.) What is an ARM chip and why does it matter (what does ARM even stand for? And 2.) How did we get to 5 or 6 nanometer chips and the technology behind chips getting smaller!
There are a lot of Arm processors that require cooling, Arm isn’t magically power efficient, it depends on the processor you design. You also have to consider that Apple’s process node is on 7nm while Intel is still on 14nm, which is a pretty big difference. I would hope Apple would make a powerful enough CPU that would require active cooling, even on a 5nm node, without cooling it likely won’t pass 4ghz, which would be very disappointing, considering AMD and Intel are already hitting 5ghz. Having high frequencies is very important for many applications, and won’t be solved by having more cores or a smaller node.
Tech Journalists and Futurists would desperately beg to differ with you... They see no reason why the A13 or A14 chip can't run full-blown MacOS. They just want the physical aspects of an iPad in laptop form... Which is why there was so much excitement from this particular crowd of Apple acolytes when mouse support was added to the iPad Pro and they came out with a folding keyboard with trackpad attachment... And the rest of the tech world didn't really feel too "into it". I'd say these acolytes are drinking a bit too much Kool-Aid and are heavily affected by Apple's "Reality Distortion Field". For this crowd, all they care about is battery life and "good enough" performance in a pretty package. That's literally it. And you know what? Apple wouldn't be wrong on selling this product to them. It'll be a hit because it's an "iPad-like device" running MacOS... what Apple's loyal fans have been wanting for years.
@@AtomicSymphonic AMD doesnt do past 5ghz very well, but it's proven that AMD at 4.3 ghz right now is basically equal to intel at 5ghz thanks to this magic called 'instructions per clock' which is a complicated way to say more effecient. ARM could very easily do lower clocks, which would be better for battery, and still have good performance. and because of how most people understand things, odds are people will buy 20hr battery life before they even look at something like 5ghz long as its not painfully slow at basic tasks
I think only a small percentage of Apple's customer base is concerned about how powerful their laptop is. Most people just want a reliable device for writing docs, making spreadsheets and browsing the web.
@@AtomicSymphonic Where did I say an A14 cant run mac OS? I'm only talking about performance. There are pentiums that can run Mac OS. This is not my argument. I'm saying cooling is important if they want to stay competitive with AMD and Intel.
@@Gaur8n While it can be true, Apple also known to have simplified their hardware. That's why you can't find Apple products with Nvidia or AMD processor in it. That also the reason why hackintosh with AMD is more difficult than Intel one. Meanwhile, Apple already have products with ARM, you know, iPhone and iPad.
@@AkunSayaYT yeah exactly this. The entire mac kernel is designed to run on Intel's instruction set. Given that Apple already develops for ARM, porting the kernel to that rather than AMD would be much easier
If my current laptop from 2012 does not die, I will stick it out and wait the 2021 release. I usually use my iPad for 80% of my tech needs, so hopefully I can wait it out. Thanks for the update.
@@yitiknovelist i dont know man! I bought mine years ago! I would reccomend looking for it on ebay or something. But even if the 14 inch doesnt come out you should still get the updated 13, the keyboard should be fixed and everything.
This might be my favourite Dave2D video in a long time. Also, you should've mentioned the fact that when apple transitioned from PowerPC TO Intel, they rolled out a utility called Rosetta, that allowed Mac users to port their PowerPC based apps to the x86 architecture. I'm guessing that they will do something similar this time. And, this is the first time in a really long time that we have seen apple lower its prices, so I'm pretty confident they will lower the prices of the MacBooks, but not by much. They probably will sell the new MacBooks for 150-200 bucks cheaper than their current price. This way they will lower the prices and also be able to keep the profits.
You read my mind. I was thinking to wait until next year for “ARM base Macbook” in the mean time, I’m using my iPad Pro as my main productivity device. Crazy, but I accepted the challenges, and so far I can deal with it.
This is also the company sells the base iPad for $329 and has a streaming service for $4.99 a month, let me remind you. So I wouldn't be that hopeless.
Optical Clarity I tend to agree with some parts of your comment but I’d love to read your reasoning behind it. Why an ARM SoC can’t be as powerful as an x86 counterpart? Obviously taking an iPhone chipset and simply throw it inside a Mac won’t cut it, but with active cooling, higher frequency, possibly more cores, and extended set of instructions even, why wouldn’t that work?
I don't think that the price would decrease as the making of the processor and that too a good one would req research and apple would have to spend quite a bit of resources for the same Take for eg the SE,the reason why it was so cheap was due to the fact it dident require any innovation rather it made up of the thing which they already had made and was quite easy for them to replicate that which in turn helped bringing it's cost down.
Rishabh it will go down. Look at the SE. Intel and Samsung charge crazy prices for their chips and oiled, which they never reduce as they have monopoly.
The battery life on these laptops will be insane. I think they’ll keep the fans for the first iteration though. I’m sure they’ll be quieter than ever still.
Honestly seeing shadow of the tomb raider run on the A12Z at 30-50 FPS is amazing especially since the graphics on the chip are only slightly better than what a ps4 can deliver
I don't think Louis Rossmann gives a shit about security, so he won't say something like "Ok, the T2 chip keeps stuff secure BUT"... He will just talk about the negative things it brings along with it.
@@utubekullanicisi Of course he cares about security. REAL security, nothing to do with T2 whose purpose is to be a single point of failure that kills the whole machine if any component fail. He never said "Ok, the T2 chip keeps stuff secure BUT" because that's simply not true and he, as an expert in the field, knows it.
Steve Q The T2 chip’s purpose was for Apple to be more prepared for the transition to their own chips. If they were so dedicated to planned obsolescence, they wouldn’t give 6-7 years of support to their devices.
@@utubekullanicisi Of course that's not only for planned obsolence, that's also to make sure only them can repair it, just like they currently do with touchID and storage issues. So not only can they charge whater they want for repairs in full monopoly (even more that the cost of a new machine, that's how they make planned obsolescence... in addition to secretly throttling their devices though software updates of course), but they can also claim "water damage, your warranty is void" and nobody else could repair it even if untrue. They're so dedicated to planned obsolence that "their own chips" are actually chips made by another company with a special contract to not sell them to anybody else, of course to avoid that repairs shop can get their hands on them...
Hey Dave it’s really nice to hear some good apple news from you every time....but in 2:14 you got a mistake as you wrote “iPhone pro 2020” instead of “iPad Pro 2020”..😅😅. Anyways am very happy to hear the news of the ARM processors..😊😊
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I think it's a start for getting same operating systems on the iPad and Macbooks. I remember reading somewhere that macOS big sur was touch optimized. Maybe they'll make one tablet/laptop thing? Maybe it's only to get the macbooks closer to iPad so that iPad is even more of a laptop in the future. As you mentioned in your video, an arm based platform like this would be a great incentive for devs to get apps to such a system. Unifying the app store for Mac books and iPads. Further pushing the idea of iPad as a laptop.
Apple implementing ARM based CPU's in their laptops will kickstart a whole new breed of high efficient powerful laptops. And yes, this will be the first nail on Intel coffin.
Intel decided to go suicidal a long time ago. When was the last time their new releases excited the tech community? Each processor generation just slighly better than the previous. Just not enough.
@@nishantrajani7372 I legit can't remember what iPhones were last year's. I'm guessing the 11? Because they were the same as the Xs and X with an extra camera. the X was a huge change, but iPhones have stagnated again. Agree with the rest though
@@notricky1680 you may not see the change from design perspective and I agree that notch needs to go but cameras have been one of the best along with pixel 4 for photography and for video apple have been king from some time for me it was a big step forward from XS specially night photography. Also its not like there's a much better device out there in phone industry either its only a choice between ios or android atm 🤷🏻♂️
@@nishantrajani7372 you're literally proving my point. They've been great for a while, so it's not like 11 was a huge leap forward thanks to Johnny Ive leaving. Also, are you liking your own comments? Lmao
@@rimafriendly2652 Absolutly not, when you buy an apple product, you can be proud of it, they won't lower the price of something that work. But they may try to grab new consumers toward some products that aren't selling well, their computers for exemple, but the price will always still be high to make a difference between apple product's users and the other ones.
Guillaume Tartempion I never said that their prices are going to be lower than their competitors! They will definitely lower their prices! Wait and observe! they’ll start by setting low prices for some of their lineups and once they got you hooked on the Apple’s ecosys. they will slowly raise the prices for little annual improvements.
The 2021 MacBook will probably get way better battery life and a much more consistent upgrade cycle. But by going ARM we lose a lot of the good stuff X86 delivered. And it also means no more Bootcamp. Do you think this is Apple's future? Do you like it??!
No,no I don't like it
Says the man who has never and never will own an Apple product
Nahnanananana
No bootcamp means no apple for me
But Windows will likely go arm in the future. So some form of bootcamp will likely still be possible in the future too
Laptop or iPad pro 2020 which one to buy 🤔
Dave : “it could lower the price of a new MacBook”
Narrator: “it won’t.”
11/10/2020- oh look, I was right 🙄
To be fair, Apple TV dropped in price after the switch from Intel to the A-series. Even the higher priced models are still cheaper to this day.
SuperHyphyOne : But Apple TV is a consumer product. Macs aren't.
Look at which scores Apple advertises for the iMac - Final Cut Pro X, Logic Pro X, Adobe Photoshop, Lightroom, .... -- all Pro apps;
The iMac Pro is just the "bigger brother" of the iMac - for big companies. But both versions of the iMac and all screen sizes (21.5" and 27") are only targeting pros, according to Apple...
Apple has given up the consumers on the Mac years ago (which is why it's confusing that they even put out Apple Arcade on the Mac at all...)
Eric Freiberg they put Apple Arcade on the Mac for consistency with its other platforms especially after developing Catalyst.
They only show those scores on the higher end models because those are the products that are targeted towards professionals. They don’t show scores for its lower end models like the MacBook Air or base 13” MacBook Pro because those aren’t targeted to them. Those are “consumer” products, albeit a bit on the expensive side.
brantmacga Haha you are most likely correct. It’s Apple and maximum profit is their policy.
Eric Freiberg Macs aren’t consumer products, but MacBooks are. The MacBook Air is the best selling laptop on Amazon. It’s marketed towards students and writers who just need a decent laptop for word processing and light entertainment consumption.
Apple and AMD's recent performance just shows how much Intel has dropped the ball in the past 5 years.
Visible_Otters amd is still shit compared to apple performance
@@random_bit 100%
Alex no. They dropped the ball. Having a higher integration between the manufacturing and designing operations means that they’re not working well together.
@@random_bit LMAO I dont care about that if AMD chips kill Intel chips in benchmarks, and is priced better. You have to be a clown to own an Intel instead of a Ryzen.
@@heeroheero8844 Ryzen = pleab laptops
Dave: Apple will lower the price if they make their own chips.
Apple: * Laughs menacingly *
Probably going to be a $1000 price floor for the base model
@@louiscarpenter7144 but to be fair, that is a good price floor for the performance you'll be getting. But I know for people like me, that isn't really easy to afford, even if I'm from a middle class family. Not complaining about the price, because it's a really good value, but I'm just saying it's not pocket change for the average joe.
I really hope they don't just raise the price exponentially, then just justify the price raise by *claiming* that the ARM is, like, ten times better than anything else.
ffol, they are gonna charge more, ports sold seperately
iPad is $329
2019 - Dave is a tech reviewer
2020 - Dave is a tech leaker
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2021 - Dave is a tech dinosaur.
Time waits for no one
This old news, this was public news 3-4 years ago that Apple was working on putting ARM chip in their macbooks. There are already ARM based Windows notebooks for over 6 years already. The 1st gen Windows Surface RT uses ARM based CPU made by Nvidia.
@@Vision33r The things is, minchi kuo has had very very accurate leaks. Basically all he said came true.
Hector Adrian Cubillos Deseano that dude gives me a throbbing headache
Me: Ok I will upgrade my laptop this year!
Dave: You wanna hear these stuff because this may affect your purchase decision
Me: At once, your Grace
Dave: As you wish, my Liege.
This is legit happening to me since I wanted to buy MacBook pro 2019
Same I need an apple laptop for uni and now I've been show this like shit I want to make the most of my money
Reinier Sarino I wish I could wait, but I’m going to college this year and need a laptop 😪
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2:58 18 hrs battery time for Macbook. Dave is time travelling!!!
Waiting for macbook pro 14"
with the new design + Mini-Led display in Q1 2021
yeah i was gonna buy it this summer, but idk now if sinking a couple thousand into a new computer now is worth it if next year there's going to be a huge jump in performance for the same price
Misho Maisuradze hopefully next month
@@raff1944 its the same every couple of years where it makes a lot of performance difference. personally get the best you can now and just live with it
@@yashdani7598 nope, next month will be 13 inch Pro refresh , intel 10gen cpus and some minor upgrades
Yay, this is a good one from Apple. I’ll buy one in 2030 when the price goes down.
And please note this is only true for macbook. My 10 year old macbook is still doing well. My hp or samsung couldnt last more than years.
@Sleep Less I totally agree with you in this matter. I'm not a Macbook user but my friends are. My laptop and even my desktop with powerful components have been aging year by year but their Macbooks seem not as much. Sometimes I have chances to use their around 5 year old Macbooks and compare to my devices, mines sucks at best.
I've been using a dell xps 15 for 3 years and still very strong, I added a egpu using thunderbolt 3 and I get desktop performance for gaming. I also own a ipad for typing, reading and it's absolutely perfect.. imo its better to get a win/linux laptop and ipad but if you cant afford it I guess macbook are still good.
@@sleepless2375 thats a bit dumb lol i use my desktop since 7 yeara lol
Story of our lives.
“We’re introducing the new MacBook Arm, because it’ll literally cost you an arm”
Diego Rivera lol
Then proceeds to ask : so, which arm you willing to sacrifice?
A KIDNEY TOO
Cheaper than the liver I had to sell for the grater.
LOL, sadly it could be happening.
-Me: so how much will the mackbook arm cost?
-Apple: It's in the name.
-Me: ¬_¬
-Apple: 😏
Arm means poor in German, so hopefully its that instead 😆
oh i get it he means you'll lose your arm ha..
@@ryanostendorf1213 so do I，haha
💀🤣🤣
There is a similarity between Apple & Iron man.
Both sell the weapons (iphone) for huge sum & then send Iron Man (Updates) to destroy it.
and then they turn of comments
Apple: Announces a new product
Every tech RUclipsr: Tells everyone to wait for the next one
It's Apple... that's how they roll...
I'll use apple when it's affordable. Correction, objectively affordable...
There's a reason for it.
But macbook pro 16 and this new. MB Air are "nicer"
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Hahahaha Dave just convinced me not to purchase the MB Air 2020. I was excited to purchase it after the lockdown/quaratine. Guess I have to hold my excitement till next year. Damn it, Dave!
Sharm D for yeeeeaaaaars
Whatching this on 2021 from my Pro with M1 and it's like... this guy knows what he talks about. Good job Mr. Dave.
i am amazed by how you can make a video, talking 8 min straight with almost no cuts ... it’s amazing
Agreed. Rene Ritchies videos are cut every 3 seconds. Drove me nuts. Can’t watch him anymore.
Too annoying.
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learn a musical instrument then you can keep the thread going indefinately.
Jonathan van den Berg playing the piano :) not working haha
Musicians want to know if ,,, GARAGEBAND is better ??? regards
Me last year: aight I'm gonna buy this 13 inch MacBook
Rumours: new 13 inch MacBook to follow the new 16 inch releasing soon
Me this year: nothings releasing ill buy it now
Dave: new Macbooks releasing next year
Me: ...
There’s supposedly a new MacBook Pro coming out in May or the beginning of June
Dhruti Desai wait where did you hear about that
@@ignaciotoscano3259 leaks everywhere, its going to be a 14-inch macbook pro
Yeah I got the MacBook Pro and then about a month later they released the one with the Touch Bar for the same price 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Dead ass me I’m stuck between the 16 inch MacBook pro and the new macbook air but its expensive af
3:47 Wow that is a very steady and consistent increase.
its fakes 😔
@@Retronyx how?
I guess the iPhone 8 sucked
@@brunokaufmannfigueiredo8153 The 8 and the X have the same processor
@@brunokaufmannfigueiredo8153 Actually on the contrary, the 8 was better than the X, mainly cause there was less screen, allowing for the processor to work more efficiently.
One more reason why Apple creates their own chip: permanently terminate Hackintosh community
Other reason is profit, why share the profit with intel or amd if apple could take it all.
And if the arm macbook is a success apple will slowly replacing their other macbook.
eventually their goal is to remove hackintosh community =((
Their chips would still be ARM, and use the widespread ARM instruction set. Sure, Apple would add in their own features like an integrated T2, but I'm sure the Hackintosh community would find a way to make it work.
Apple doesn't care about the Hackintosh community, it's such a small fraction of the customer base it has no effect on them financially. The switch to ARM will kill the Hackintosh community, but it's not the reason Apple is doing this at all, that will just happen to be a by-product of the switch. They're doing this just so they have better control over their products like Dave said in the video. Especially since Intel's development has been so ridiculously lackluster for the last few years. Also these ARM chips will START in the lower end Macs, but eventually be put in the Mac Pro/iMac Pros/Macbook Pros too. They are going to work their way up the product line with the ARM chips, by that point, developers will likely have ported even pro x86 apps to be able to run on the ARM chips.
Not really, as Dave said they will still be an Intel version of their hardware
Apple cutting costs and keeping prices the same is the point.
i would cost the same but they same oney.. mac just not made money as much as iphone...
We'll all see if it turns out that way.
They’ve had arm in other devices, what kind of cost cutting have we seen, really?
@@DelwinChowhan That's a pretty inconsiderate way of thinking. Phones are hard devices to make in terms of the precision required for their assembly, engineering, etc. And you have to integrate a lot of antennas in iPhones and iPads as well, which cost a ton of money. With Macs, maybe they won't be any cheaper but they will integrate 5G antennas into Macbooks. Or, bring FaceID and other new features.
@@utubekullanicisi "FaceID" *Windows Hello Intensifies"
Also, ARM chips are less powerful than normal pc chips. That's a fact. So they should cost less. Not that Apple will lower it's prices
I still have my macbook air mid 2011. 2021 would be a perfect year for me to upgrade.
Ömer Can that’ll actually be a downgrade. Sure it might be faster, but by not buy an iPad instead of an ARM “Mac”?
ElZamo92 yeah good question
@@ElZamo92 Tablets cant replace laptops, period.
I just hope this means I can video edit with a Macbook Air and play Sonic Racing without it overheating.
@@jackdamenace13 Not really what a MacBook air is for though.
master of straight-to-the-point videos 💯
So damn good nowadays.
the only channel i watch to get the update for laptop
So many students who only looks at pdfs, writes reports, watches Netflix gonna buy these like cup cakes... My sister for example 🙄
only reason I bought my mbp 2019 and that's literally all I do
You say that as if it were a bad thing, apple is amazing targeting specific consumer groups. And for the people who only do these things products like these are a godsend, Why force your consumer into buying a more expensive laptop for things that they don't really need?
@@mauriciopena6693 I think you're missing his entire POINT. 🤣🤣
That's literally most people. Few people ever get beyond like 25% CPU utilisation
Exactly 😑
I'm still stuck on "is he standing or sitting?" 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
he's sitting
He's swimming obviously
no he's planking
Ya’ll wrong, he doesn’t have a lower body, his all torso
Ya’ll wrong, he doesn’t have a lower body, his all torso
"Introducing the Macbook Leg"
I love that the iPad blends into the table lol
Yes cos it bends just by holding it at one corner loll
"Developers go along with it"....... yeah, that Touchbar.
Alps64 Or 3D Touch
@King Wiwuz IV Well, first, the touchbar is ONLY on the high end Macbook Pro... secondly, most of the developers hated it because it replaced the keys (that amazing esc-key right) so it couldn't be used for something useful if u wanted to have the keys... third, many developers that work on a MBP, half of the time use a Mac in docked mode which made it unreachable for productivity anyway...
Overall the touchbar is TRASH.
That apple copied i mean innovated from lenovo😊
@@hanes2 And an hypotetical ARM Mac would be only ONE line of products in a sea of x86 based machines. So the incentives to develop a load of ARM apps wouldn't be so strong...
@@IlRovina The biggest challenge for apple is emulating existing x86 apps and windows failed on that, horribly. I think to overcome that apple should take the Chrome OS's route, bring iPad OS/iOS apps to MacOS. With Play Store integration on Chrome OS it solved the lack of apps especially essential apps (before, there are no native (non-web) apps on Chrome OS). But that will probably kill some of iPad's userbase since the apps is now available on the ARM Macbook, the only advantage to iPad is now solely the touchscreen itself.
Dave: Apple could keep the extra profits or lower the price of MacBooks.
Apple: Ha ha ha nice try! 🤑.
They would never lower the price. If they pass along the savings to the consumers, don't expect that to mean the MB will be cheaper. It just means they will insert something else to balance the cost. Like upgrading that shitty front camera on our MBPs and bragging like they revolutionized video chat.
@@_officialmigs Honestly, I could do with better front cameras. No mainstream manufacturer these days have made an actually good laptop front camera, the closest being Microsoft's Surface lineup and obviously Apple's MacBook Pro.
On Apple lowering prices, it's too early to tell in my opinion. Apple has lowered prices before, and also didn't. Although, they may have to lower prices due to lower demand for devices nowadays, especially after the pandemic.
They are selling the iphone SE 2 for a low price, even though it has the most advanced A13 bionic chip, so I’m still having my hopes up that they’d also sell the macbooks at a lower price
@@karloesguerra7972 They give you a powerful chip for a shit phone with less than half of what the flagships can do. Congrats lmao
"relatively smooth in the user experience, we're not gonna see like... "
He's going to pull out a Surface Pro X. He's going to pull out a Surface Pro X.
Dave I really admire your optimism regarding apples pricing policy :D:D
SlipperyTube you must have missed the new phone that just came out then
That's not ungrounded optimism. You see the price of Apple's iPhone SE 2020. I guess Apple is focusing on developing its Subscription services now, so it is adapting the "Cheap Printer, Expensive Ink" model.
Fuck off dick head. Point out a laptop that part-for-part is cheaper than a MacBook Pro.
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@@ryleypalmer And the entry level iPads too. Plus a new MacBook Air at 1000 bucks vs 1200 is good, even if you should pay 1100 for the i5 model.
All I can say is that this is an end of an era for developers like me. For over a decade i have enjoyed using my macbook pro for developing server software compiled for x-86 64 architecture. If x-86 is no longer available on mac ill probably switch to linux because there is really no point in developing my code for both architectures. Before you say ill be able to compile on mac using cross platform tools... there is really no point. The type of server software i work on will never be deployed on an ARM architecture. I have no interest in developing cross platform compile routines just to accommodate my development environment.
Dave: "Whether or not Apple kind of pockets the difference or passes those savings on down to the consumer..."
Apple: Sells four non-locking computer wheels for $700
Jeff D. Best comment
"We present you the new MacBook Whatever."~Dave Lee, 2020
I’m still trying to figure out whether Dave is sitting or standing, or squatting on the floor 🤔🤔🤔
6:42 I think he's standing
@@stronglittleman I think hes doing the splits, perfectly parallel
If he was a Slav he would be squatting in Adidas sport kit 😉
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He's floating for sure
2:14 “iPhone Pro 2020”
*Best phone of them all-*
Wtf?
That must have been mistyped, it should have been iPad pro 2020
Mr. Verma maybe he meant the iPhone 11 Pro? Lol
DomDiggity ,yeah maybe!
Whether he meant iPhone or iPad the point still stands. ARM processing is way more efficient and way more powerful in a portable form factor. Apple needs to get a move on with ARM based MacBooks. The iPad Pro from 2018 shouldn’t be outperforming laptop’s in 2020, but it does....
Dave: Developers are not going to have any problem switching
Developers: ** raises eyes in expectation **
Dave: They are going to do whatever they want to do despite whatever developer thinks. *And that's good*. They don't have any options.
Developers: What??
Dave: They're good at not caring about developers.
it true tho.
Seriously, this sounded like a cult recruitment video for so much of it.
But also, nah. Can you imagine the opportunity for Microsoft in an environment where they can incentivize devs to force software to run in x86 emulation on macbooks so they can make it into a meme that software just runs slower on those?
You never want to underestimate MS's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but it's such an easy opportunity to show obvious benchmarks running at a snail's pace for unoptimized software, particularly after their own Surface experiment bombed spectacularly.
Nothing new from Apple. Apple always sets the standards for their devices and if you don't meet the standards you get left behind. Because if you aren't going to, then one of the other many, many competitors on the App Store will.
@@_officialmigs It depends on who you are and what you make. There's plenty of software out there that doesn't need to care about Mac. I mean, Blender doesn't. Games don't. A whole bunch of software can survive just fine without Mac, which in the large scheme of consumer electronics is a *tiny* fraction of the install base. Office and Adobe CC will optimize for it (and have already announced this), but the historic reason Apple struggled with software was the open platform small devs that were more than happy to not bother with the non-intel Macs.
"The downside is Apple can stagger and limit their performance". Dear Dave, please please please stop giving them ideas.
They did it with the iPhone 11 - because their ARM chip was already way faster than any non-Apple ARM chip, so they decided to focus on battery life instead of performance with the A13 - as the A12 is just simply fast enough for anything happening on a phone already. Probably won't do this on laptops nearly as much as laptops tend to be able to make use of higher processor speed.
Like their under-engineered cooling on MacBook Air.
mac used to be powerpc chip which basically a ARM... they change to x86 due to alot of program come from pc and intel just can get them a stable demand of chip for cheap... going back was not surpring..
Do you think Apple does "mean" things just to piss off their customers? Why would they do that? If you piss off your customers, they won't come back. Again, nobody is being forced to buy Apple products.
I'm just grateful you just get to the point as soon as I click on the video
So thank you, Lee :)
Can you please make a video about buying a new Macbook in 2020, after Apple's announcement of the new Apple Silicon
He did it
@@Sekiro_lover yeah ik, this comment was posted right after wwdc 2020
The last time I was this early, Minecraft was known as Cave Game
Bone 1557 last time i played minecraft, you couldn’t fly 😔
Last time I played Minecraft, 1.8.9 was the dominant version!
_O H W A I T . . ._
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@@cgl5639 Minecraft Alpha was the best Minecraft.
"Hopefully it's not called Macbook ARM😂"
In German this would sound really like bad marketing, as "arm" translates to "poor" in English.
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@@studiosnch at least it would be honest
I bet it's just called Macbook and will replace the Intel one.
they call it the ibook
Guess I’m spending another year in high school with my ancient Acer then
Your parents will be happy
Yup, and I’ll go through a world of pain, the battery life has severely been damaged and the warranty is like 4 years expired
@@dylanl461 It might be coming out in a couple months, it might be worth the wait but also why not an IPAD? I just have the Ipad 10.2 and a case from amazon with keyboard for 35 bucks and the apple pencil 1st gen. I have the microsoft apps, notability, book shelf for all my books, and canvas/school portal, reminders, mail and spotify. I take it everywhere, its lightweight and i have everything saved into a cloud drive, in case i ever lose my ipad. I am in second year of med school currently and I am dominating my peers who have a lot more expensive gadgets and gizmos all with a base model ipad and a cheap case. If youre dedicated to learn and want to put in the time, it doesnt matter the device, you will get there. If you have the money, you can even get the 12.9 inch ipad pro of last year for a cheaper price or the newer one of this year. But i dont know the amount of workload you might have so its just a suggestion. Good luck in school and in your future endeavors. Cheers mate :)
You’re in high school. You shouldn’t need a great laptop for now. You could wait and save some money to upgrade the laptop of your choice. Also, you shouldn’t wait for the arm laptop if you really need one. Apple hasn’t yet developed the tools to transition from x86 to Arm architecture. You need to wait 2 to 3 years so that developers are able to program their software for both arm and x86. You shouldn’t be the guy on the team that cannot use a software for a group project and end up tripping everyone’s feet because the softwares are not compatible with each other.
It was a joke, I’m not actually gonna upgrade to a MacBook so suddenly
Would've been really cool to see an arm chip in the air this year. The next couple years will probably show a lot of movement that way, pretty exciting. If only we could get decent data plans to go along with our new laptops sporting arm chips.
me: knows i have no money to buy
also me: i need it
real cartoon girl 99% of world 🤷🏼♂️🤣
But you got kidney right!!! Ever wondered why you have two of them!!!!🙈🙈🙈
Dark Light what are you planning to buy with two.? Macbookpro!!
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I am fortunate enough to own a 12" MacBook my dad uses, and to have decided before lockdown to purchase a 16" MacBook Pro. With rumors of ARM MacBooks continually being pushed further out, even though we know how great these computers are going to be, for someone like me I've decided they're for consideration the NEXT time I buy a laptop, not right now. If you need a laptop, go ahead and get one today. The 16" MacBook Pro is a no compromises awesome machine, and the 12" MacBook can be found used for under $800 in the U.S. The new MacBook Air is also good if you need something new but lighter and less pricey than the 16" MacBook Pro. If you're reading this in 2021, I'd wait for ARM, but for now, just get a Mac! I upgraded to the 16" MacBook Pro from a 2012 15" MacBook Pro and passed the latter to my mom. In total I used the 2012 MacBook Pro for three and a half years, and I imagine we enthusiasts won't be holding onto laptops for longer than that, so your next upgrade cycle really isn't _that long_ from now.
Intel: abuses its market share to shell shitty products and stop innovating
Apple: Fine, I'll do it myself
I actually think Apple finally decided to go ARM in their laptops due to AMD's badass processor presentation this year. Apple went to Intel, asked if they were going to do something about it, to innovate. Intel hesitated and answered with vague promises. Bam, decision made.
@@alherrera9390 or maybe because they simply have the resources to make such tech in house without the need to rely on anyone else but themselves. don't be surprised if apple soon starts making their own gpus and hell with amd, nivida and even intel altogether.
@@Dan-oy7pr Intel tried to make GPUs, they failed miserably.
AMD is still 5 years behind Nvidia.
Just think how much time it will take for Apple to bring Nvidia level GPUs.
Even if they succeed, that GPU will only be available on Mac devices. So it won't be much of a deal.
The final point is the pricing. I don't even want to think about the calculations they will make to rob people of their money.
@@djigi2002 um, them making their own to be only in their own product is kind of the point, like how this video is about ARM. Your comment shows you have no comprehension and you just wanting to flex irrelevant knowledge to the topic at hand.
@@djigi2002 Apple will probably still use AMD or Nvidia GPUs in their computers if they switched to in-house processors. When Apple used PowerPc processors they actually used PC graphics cards in the same computers.
4:12 Louis Rossmann disagrees. These chips are there to make 3rd party repair impossible
Yup, making data recovery harder than it already is on the new macbooks
Apple fan: what's a repair??
Apple will firmware lock most of the hardware. Probably even the screen.
RIP
@@mauriciopena6693 Isn't that what you mean by security? that its not accessible from 3rd Party vendors and you can't "recover" sensitive data easily?
@@nishantrajani7372 If someone wants their data to be unrecoverable he would just choose to encrypt the drive. That would make the data impossible to recover.
But to not be able to recover data on an unencrypted disk would be a design flaw in my opinion
Best Tech Channel period. its so nice to listen to you!
1:25 ' ..... It's got some nice advantage goin on there....'
Exynos: yah huge advantage!!!
😂😂
Samsung is not using their own OS.
@@RafiqueHola to be fair a couple of years ago the Exynos version of their phones were fairly better than the Snapdragon ones, so not much of an excuse, the competitors got better.
@@josefranciscoramirez4438 thank you for the history.
José Francisco Ramírez yeah galaxy s7 exynos are better than their snapdragon counterparts
This had me much more excited than I expected
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apple : hold on my $999 computer stand
@Nuno Filipe yeah still got phone with $1200 rather than $999 computer stands 😥
2020 is the year, marking the " Rise of the fallen (Apple) "
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EverythingApplePro: "wait that's illegal !"
Hey Dave, here are 2 video ideas for you to explore. 1.) What is an ARM chip and why does it matter (what does ARM even stand for? And 2.) How did we get to 5 or 6 nanometer chips and the technology behind chips getting smaller!
“Whether Apple chooses to pass those savings to the consumer remains to be seen...”
There are a lot of Arm processors that require cooling, Arm isn’t magically power efficient, it depends on the processor you design. You also have to consider that Apple’s process node is on 7nm while Intel is still on 14nm, which is a pretty big difference. I would hope Apple would make a powerful enough CPU that would require active cooling, even on a 5nm node, without cooling it likely won’t pass 4ghz, which would be very disappointing, considering AMD and Intel are already hitting 5ghz. Having high frequencies is very important for many applications, and won’t be solved by having more cores or a smaller node.
Tech Journalists and Futurists would desperately beg to differ with you... They see no reason why the A13 or A14 chip can't run full-blown MacOS. They just want the physical aspects of an iPad in laptop form... Which is why there was so much excitement from this particular crowd of Apple acolytes when mouse support was added to the iPad Pro and they came out with a folding keyboard with trackpad attachment... And the rest of the tech world didn't really feel too "into it". I'd say these acolytes are drinking a bit too much Kool-Aid and are heavily affected by Apple's "Reality Distortion Field".
For this crowd, all they care about is battery life and "good enough" performance in a pretty package. That's literally it. And you know what? Apple wouldn't be wrong on selling this product to them.
It'll be a hit because it's an "iPad-like device" running MacOS... what Apple's loyal fans have been wanting for years.
@@AtomicSymphonic AMD doesnt do past 5ghz very well, but it's proven that AMD at 4.3 ghz right now is basically equal to intel at 5ghz thanks to this magic called 'instructions per clock' which is a complicated way to say more effecient.
ARM could very easily do lower clocks, which would be better for battery, and still have good performance. and because of how most people understand things, odds are people will buy 20hr battery life before they even look at something like 5ghz long as its not painfully slow at basic tasks
I think only a small percentage of Apple's customer base is concerned about how powerful their laptop is. Most people just want a reliable device for writing docs, making spreadsheets and browsing the web.
@@PapaDragonTV exactly, and those people go for the 'pro' systems, not something apple would put ARM chips in. no loss for apple
@@AtomicSymphonic Where did I say an A14 cant run mac OS? I'm only talking about performance. There are pentiums that can run Mac OS. This is not my argument. I'm saying cooling is important if they want to stay competitive with AMD and Intel.
Considering this video came out before WWDC its surprisingly more informativs than most other videos released after the announcement. Great one!
Just like watches, always good to have a in house movement.
Hey Dave, you forgot the most obvious reason:
Even Apple is fed up with 14nm++++++++++++++++ from Intel.
If that was the case they would go Ryzen like laptop manufacturers are starting to do. They want total control and no middle man to lose profits to.
@@Gaur8n While it can be true, Apple also known to have simplified their hardware. That's why you can't find Apple products with Nvidia or AMD processor in it. That also the reason why hackintosh with AMD is more difficult than Intel one. Meanwhile, Apple already have products with ARM, you know, iPhone and iPad.
@@AkunSayaYT yeah exactly this. The entire mac kernel is designed to run on Intel's instruction set. Given that Apple already develops for ARM, porting the kernel to that rather than AMD would be much easier
x86 itself bloated instructions set..you can see how fujitsu ARM A64FX eat amd EPYC and intel xeon in server market
@@AkunSayaYT in addition x86 stagnant...zero innovation from intel or AMD
If my current laptop from 2012 does not die, I will stick it out and wait the 2021 release. I usually use my iPad for 80% of my tech needs, so hopefully I can wait it out. Thanks for the update.
Thank you for this calm and efficient delivery of information.
I love every single thing about the 2015 MacBook. The design is truly breathtakingly beautiful.
the 2015 macbook pro retina display is the best macbook they ever made! Still have mine running strong after 5+ years!
@@freakster8189 do you think mac15 is still on sale? i heard others prasing that one. if apple 14 does not come out, i will look for 2015
@@yitiknovelist i dont know man! I bought mine years ago! I would reccomend looking for it on ebay or something. But even if the 14 inch doesnt come out you should still get the updated 13, the keyboard should be fixed and everything.
@@freakster8189 thank you!
I'm calling it. In the next few years we're gonna see budget gaming laptops using Nvidia Tegra ARM chips
Looking the MacBook at that angle surprised me on how thin MacBooks are
Well there's not much in it, what really surprises me is how a Razer Blade is only slightly bigger but packs many times more into it
This might be my favourite Dave2D video in a long time.
Also, you should've mentioned the fact that when apple transitioned from PowerPC TO Intel, they rolled out a utility called Rosetta, that allowed Mac users to port their PowerPC based apps to the x86 architecture. I'm guessing that they will do something similar this time.
And, this is the first time in a really long time that we have seen apple lower its prices, so I'm pretty confident they will lower the prices of the MacBooks, but not by much. They probably will sell the new MacBooks for 150-200 bucks cheaper than their current price. This way they will lower the prices and also be able to keep the profits.
Aditya Bhardwaj I hope they will lower the prices outside the US as well, fingers crossed
He was thinking "With great power comes great responsibility." at 2:39
2:18 IPhone Pro 2020? I assuming is the IPad Pro 2020
Came here to see if anyone else noticed it 👌🏻
First thing i saw too lol
me too
200 iq
Welcome to another episode of *Another epic product that I just cant afford* .
You read my mind. I was thinking to wait until next year for “ARM base Macbook” in the mean time, I’m using my iPad Pro as my main productivity device. Crazy, but I accepted the challenges, and so far I can deal with it.
Uncle Ben: with great power comes great responsibility
Dave Lee: 02:39 with that energy efficiency comes great battery life
2 reasons only: Control and Profit Everything else is minor. Also the T2 chip is more for anti-repair policy rather than "security"
Best video of 2020 by Dave yet!
Apple will pocket the CPU price difference. This company sells a set of four rollable wheels for $700.
This is also the company sells the base iPad for $329 and has a streaming service for $4.99 a month, let me remind you. So I wouldn't be that hopeless.
RUclips Kullanıcısı the company that sells a keyboard for the price of an iPad.. a pencil half the price of that.. I own Apple products but cmon wtf..
Pathetic.
Have you seen a set of speaker feet sell for $15k? Apple wheels is nothing
Optical Clarity I tend to agree with some parts of your comment but I’d love to read your reasoning behind it.
Why an ARM SoC can’t be as powerful as an x86 counterpart? Obviously taking an iPhone chipset and simply throw it inside a Mac won’t cut it, but with active cooling, higher frequency, possibly more cores, and extended set of instructions even, why wouldn’t that work?
It will be an ipad with a keyboard so good performence and quality and the pricing will be attractive at 900-1000$ so i think it will sell well.
Looking back, Dave literally predicted everything
The only thing that i can see is that price would be even higher...😒
not really, Its either that the price will be decreased or remain the same. Because Intel sells their chips for a quite high price!
I don't think that the price would decrease as the making of the processor and that too a good one would req research and apple would have to spend quite a bit of resources for the same
Take for eg the SE,the reason why it was so cheap was due to the fact it dident require any innovation rather it made up of the thing which they already had made and was quite easy for them to replicate that which in turn helped bringing it's cost down.
Rishabh it will go down. Look at the SE. Intel and Samsung charge crazy prices for their chips and oiled, which they never reduce as they have monopoly.
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Well you called this really really well
The battery life on these laptops will be insane. I think they’ll keep the fans for the first iteration though. I’m sure they’ll be quieter than ever still.
Honestly seeing shadow of the tomb raider run on the A12Z at 30-50 FPS is amazing especially since the graphics on the chip are only slightly better than what a ps4 can deliver
"T2 chips to keep stuff secure"
Louis Rossmann would like to have a talk with you...
I don't think Louis Rossmann gives a shit about security, so he won't say something like "Ok, the T2 chip keeps stuff secure BUT"... He will just talk about the negative things it brings along with it.
RUclips Kullanıcısı he does admit that he’s biased.
@@utubekullanicisi Of course he cares about security. REAL security, nothing to do with T2 whose purpose is to be a single point of failure that kills the whole machine if any component fail. He never said "Ok, the T2 chip keeps stuff secure BUT" because that's simply not true and he, as an expert in the field, knows it.
Steve Q The T2 chip’s purpose was for Apple to be more prepared for the transition to their own chips. If they were so dedicated to planned obsolescence, they wouldn’t give 6-7 years of support to their devices.
@@utubekullanicisi Of course that's not only for planned obsolence, that's also to make sure only them can repair it, just like they currently do with touchID and storage issues. So not only can they charge whater they want for repairs in full monopoly (even more that the cost of a new machine, that's how they make planned obsolescence... in addition to secretly throttling their devices though software updates of course), but they can also claim "water damage, your warranty is void" and nobody else could repair it even if untrue.
They're so dedicated to planned obsolence that "their own chips" are actually chips made by another company with a special contract to not sell them to anybody else, of course to avoid that repairs shop can get their hands on them...
First time seeing this channel. this dude is awesome. Concise and informative videos. nice
i would definitely STILL want some solid cooling overhead just for peace of mind with these ARM's
There's barely a single video about an apple product where the person didn't say next year this will be better.
Very important video. Thank You for that. This channel is the best
Hey Dave it’s really nice to hear some good apple news from you every time....but in 2:14 you got a mistake as you wrote “iPhone pro 2020” instead of “iPad Pro 2020”..😅😅. Anyways am very happy to hear the news of the ARM processors..😊😊
Hey it's Lou and here's the thing apple is making a new laptop
Wait a second...
Get idea of ARM. Thanks for sharing this out.
Steve Jobs is back we getting back to the Apple we once loved
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Apple. Making *"costing an ARM and a leg"* a reality.
I think it's a start for getting same operating systems on the iPad and Macbooks. I remember reading somewhere that macOS big sur was touch optimized. Maybe they'll make one tablet/laptop thing? Maybe it's only to get the macbooks closer to iPad so that iPad is even more of a laptop in the future.
As you mentioned in your video, an arm based platform like this would be a great incentive for devs to get apps to such a system. Unifying the app store for Mac books and iPads. Further pushing the idea of iPad as a laptop.
Apple implementing ARM based CPU's in their laptops will kickstart a whole new breed of high efficient powerful laptops. And yes, this will be the first nail on Intel coffin.
I think desktop ryzen was the first one, ryzen 4000 mobile is the second and if this happens, intel is literally screwd
Intel decided to go suicidal a long time ago. When was the last time their new releases excited the tech community? Each processor generation just slighly better than the previous. Just not enough.
I think intel will mange to survive cuz they still have over products
Nah, it’ll be one of the last nails until PC manufacturers follow suit and switch to AMD.
These chips are not powerful at all. Most desktop developers are gonna code shitty apps for ARM
Major flaw: You can forget about running any other OS. Also intel is the standard you as a developer have to rewrite your engine to ARM processors.
leave it to dave to get you hyped about the future of computers. love the vid!!!
2:39 With great efficiency comes great responsib- battery life.
Time to cut down battery size and make it thinnnner & light weight.
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I feel like Apple is becoming great again 😂
@@AmirulMokhris lol no
@@PixelVogue I mean last year's iphones were great, MBP 16" is good, Ipad OS has come of age, and we finally got a new SE. So they're listening!
@@nishantrajani7372 I legit can't remember what iPhones were last year's. I'm guessing the 11? Because they were the same as the Xs and X with an extra camera. the X was a huge change, but iPhones have stagnated again. Agree with the rest though
@@notricky1680 you may not see the change from design perspective and I agree that notch needs to go but cameras have been one of the best along with pixel 4 for photography and for video apple have been king from some time for me it was a big step forward from XS specially night photography. Also its not like there's a much better device out there in phone industry either its only a choice between ios or android atm 🤷🏻♂️
@@nishantrajani7372 you're literally proving my point. They've been great for a while, so it's not like 11 was a huge leap forward thanks to Johnny Ive leaving. Also, are you liking your own comments? Lmao
I never get bored watching him talking.
5:00 apple and HP/DELL etc pay nowhere near as much as that price
2:56 Dave looks like he’s talking about a really different “length”
I wanna watch this video all day
Lets be real, even if Apple found a way to make the processors for FREE they still wouldn't drop the price of the MacBook lol
They will drop the prices because they want more users in their ecosystem. They’re going to hit not just two but many birds with only one stone!
@@rimafriendly2652 Absolutly not, when you buy an apple product, you can be proud of it, they won't lower the price of something that work. But they may try to grab new consumers toward some products that aren't selling well, their computers for exemple, but the price will always still be high to make a difference between apple product's users and the other ones.
Carlos Canas they did with iPhone, A13 for $399
Guillaume Tartempion I never said that their prices are going to be lower than their competitors! They will definitely lower their prices! Wait and observe! they’ll start by setting low prices for some of their lineups and once they got you hooked on the Apple’s ecosys. they will slowly raise the prices for little annual improvements.
Erfan rahimi iPhone SE 2 is a totally different debate!
Me : *buying a 2012 13" Macbook pro*
Me : "guess I'll die"