Comparing Drum Microphones - Audix DP7 vs. Earthworks DK7
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Here's how we approach microphones and drums, while comparing two awesome drum mic sets from Audix and Earthworks! Links to purchase below the timestamps.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:54 - Types of microphones
02:11 - Overview of DP7 & DK7
03:11 - Mic placement
04:56 - Drum dampening
05:37 - Drums & cymbals
06:29 - Signal chain
07:34 - Audix DP7 vs. Earthworks DK7
12:34 - Overview of our mic setup
13:54 - Our mic setup demo
16:22 - Conclusion
Drum mic sets in this video:
Audix DP7 Drum Microphone Pack
buydru.ms/DP7
Earthworks DK7 DrumKit Microphone Pack
buydru.ms/EW-DK7
Drums:
British Drum Company Legend Fusion 4pc Drum Set Kensington Knight
buydru.ms/LEG-22-FS-KK
Snare:
British Drum Company Merlin Snare Drum 14x6.5
buydru.ms/MER-1465-SN
Cymbals:
Paiste Signature Dark Energy Ride Cymbal 22" Mk II
buydru.ms/CY0004801722
Paiste Formula 602 Modern Essentials Hi Hat Cymbals 15"
buydru.ms/CY0001143715
Paiste Signature Traditionals Thin Crash Cymbal 18"
buydru.ms/CY0004301218
Paiste Signature Traditionals Thin Crash Cymbal 20"
buydru.ms/CY0004301220
Dampening:
Snareweight Drum Damper #5 Brass
buydru.ms/SW-006-04B
SlapKlatz Pro Drum Dampener Gel Pads w/Case, 12pk Clear
buydru.ms/PRO-CL
Microphones used to capture the drums:
Bass Drum:
Audix D6 Dynamic Bass Drum Microphone - www.drumcenternh.com/audix-d6...
Audix A133 Large Diaphragm Condenser Microphone - www.drumcenternh.com/audix-a1...
Snare Drum:
Audix i5 Dynamic Microphone - www.drumcenternh.com/audix-i5...
Audix ADX51 Condenser Microphone - www.drumcenternh.com/audix-ad...
Toms:
Earthworks DM20 Small-diaphragm Condenser Drum Microphone - www.drumcenternh.com/earthwor...
Overheads:
Earthworks SR25 Small-diaphragm Condenser Instrument Microphone - www.drumcenternh.com/earthwor...
Room Mics:
Earthworks QTC30 Small-diaphragm Condenser Microphone - www.drumcenternh.com/earthwor...
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I know it was crazy to put this together but this is what makes you guys the best. Such a great resource for drummers. Shane is lucky to have you, Tony!
Thank you! ❤️
I don't buy a piece of gear without coming to see if they have posted it. it's very informational and sounds great
I met Tony while I was at the shop a while back. I asked him about mics and recording. He graciously took me into his office and showed some tips in Pro tools using the mix from the Paiste cymbal showcase. Great shop but better people. Top notch dude!
Thanks George, I remember that! It was great meeting you!
as an audio engineer, drummer and fan of your channel I have to say you deliver the best content! great video
Thanks so much, that means a lot!
@@tinterlande If I had the money, I would definitely go with earthworks mics, but for now the audix d3-d6s do a really great job on my saturn V kit :)
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Nobody can capture the sounds of drums and cymbals the way you folks at DCoP do. There's another well known drum shop in the southern US that posts a ton of product videos, but I always come away so disappointed because the audio quality is just not there, and it makes it hard to have confidence in what a person is hearing. You people NEVER have that problem. And it's very appreciated! So thank you for all your hard work and care!!
Thank you so much Willy!!
You're right. I've noticed that too. DCP... Empirical!
Tony,your tunning skills ad a lot to this wonderful sound you produce for us drummers watching these videos.I really think for the money that these audix would work for a lot of us .Thank you for this video of behind-the-scenes. I'm so glad you did this with British drum company drums.Simply love them,think there some of the best built drums out there.
Thanks so much David! BDC is making some seriously wonderful sounding drums!
Thank you for making this video. I've been one of the folks begging for a how to video, and somehow I missed it when it came out. Glad I found it. What is most remarkable to me is that your "unprocessed" sounds are fantastic, and the processing is very subtle. I hear a little compression and eq, but it stays true to the unprocessed sound and never sounds processed. It's a beautiful, natural drum sound that I strive for. Would love to see another video on your processing. Thanks again for doing what you do.
And my winner is…..Audix!
The others sounds not 3times better for me like the price.
Very good Video!
Best regards from Germany❤
Thank you! It's hard to argue with the value that the Audix mics offer!
This was awesome of you! Super helpful. I’d love to see a part 2 on the mix. Your final polish is always so clear and cohesive.
Thank you Oliver!!
Killer stuff. The difference on Audix vs Earthworks was very apparent on the unprocessed close mics, even listening on a phone. And the power of the room mics can’t be overstated.
Very different sounds and approaches! The rooms are SO important.
This was awesome, thank you for this! I would love to see your approach to mixing, too. Every drum you guys showcase always sounds so good!
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for the kind words! We may do a mixing video in the future.
Tony this was super informative, especially for someone who is just dipping their toes into recording. This is the video I’ve been waiting for! A+ job on this one! 🤟🏼
Thanks so much Kevin!!
This was such a great demo! I can imagine all of the work that goes into making this video, so thank you for doing that. I have an Audix mic pack (doesn't include the overheads, but I bought 2 Audix f15 mics a while ago (I don't think they make them anymore). I love the side-by-side comparison of the Audix and Earthworks. I am very pleased I chose the Audix. Not only for the price, but for the sound too! Watching this video tells me that I made the right choice for my drumset, playing style, and bands I play in. Thanks again! Keep these coming! Y'all rock! (yeah, I'm from Texas....LOL)
Always interesting to see this kind of behind-the-scenes stuff. Thanks for another great video, and looking forward what you have in store for '23.
Glad you enjoyed it Peter!
Yeah! Let's go shopping!
Great content Tony. I gravitate towards the Earthworks mics, in this video they represented the drums in a more natural way to to my ears. Thanks for showing us that set up last month we enjoyed the visit!
Thanks Bob, it was great seeing you!
Excellent work Tony!! Thanks for highlighting our drum mics :)
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Thank you guys for doing this video. I've been playing a long time, but recently started producing content and I'm inexperienced. I'm currently using a Røde mic in to my phone, but plan to upgrade in the near future. This gives me some great ideas to work from. Thanks guys. You really do a great job
Great Video Tony! I remember you were kind enough to send me an email about your recording process. Now I got to see it in person. Nicely done! I kinda liked the Audix(“Audi” haha) better. The EW kick mic sounded weird to my ear. But in general the EW had a more airy sound, more high end. I thought the overheads were damn close on both sets. But again the EW we’re definitely a little brighter. The earthworks room mics add all the character. To have a nice wooden room like that is awesome. Thanks again. That’s a lot of work.
I been waiting for this video! Thank you!! DCP needs to develop a VST.
Love this -- I really liked going back and forth between the Audix and EW setup -- quite a difference. I can see why you use a mix of mics as your main setup. Thanks for doing this one.
Glad it was helpful! Absolutely, each has its strengths!
Great job Tony, keep up the good work thanks for the info..
This is the best mic comparison ive seen for this 2 mic sets.. just side by side, same take.. thanks for taking time to produce the video.
Most of the youtube videos i've seen, I always prefer the earthworks. However in this comparison, I'm having second thought with earthworks
I absolutely love this channel. My favorite drum demonstrators.
Thanks so much Neko!
... "DRUMENSTRATORS"???? *heavy groan*
At laaaast! The best sounding drum demos on the web! 🤘
Thank you Sega!!
You gave me the Christmas gift I asked for last year!!! Thank You! I said before your drum recordings were always stellar for RUclips. Those mic choices are extremely good and natural sounding. I use km184 overs but the sr25s are amazing and so are the rooms. Love your snare mic vs sm57/451. I like e604 or 421 on toms but the earthworks probably sound better as do other condensers if you can afford them. I use a D12VR or D6 kick in mic but the ew sounds great. I don’t know your outside kick but I love my United 47fet clone. I’d highly suggest you check one out or the warm clones. I also use a sub kick LoFreq. I gigged and did our sound with a studio live board for years and they’re really good preamps and processing as well if needed. I’d suggest UA Apollo with their unison pres if you ever upgrade that but not necessary for your demo channel. Good mic’s sounding natural are what makes your demos so good. Every drummer I’ve ever met is deaf and can’t engineer a natural sound.
Excellent Tony, thank you! Thanks for all your hard work.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Thank you Tony. I truly appreciate this behind the scenes presentation. I use the Audix D mics for toms and kick, SE7 condensers for overhead and a Shure SM57 for snare on the kit. I also use a CAD large diaphragm room mic in my 20x16 detached studio. These are connected to a Behringer XR18 and the sound is captured using Reaper. Sometimes I follow the Glynn Johns method of using 3 mics plus a room mic which treats the kit as one instrument. I like it for its simplicity.
Thanks for watching Matt! I also am a fan of more minimal micing when appropriate.
You have great instincts Tony. This channel consistently delivers flattering sounding demos of all the outstanding gear you guys feature. It is a standout from so many of the other similar presenters. My one most noticeable takeaway... Those Earthworks are just outstanding on toms! Great work! 👍
Thank you Malcolm, that really means a lot! Yes, the DM20s are just killer!
Very cool, video!! I'd love to see another vid about your approach, when it comes to mixing :))
Thank you and we may do that in the future!
I like your blend of these mics, makes sense to me!
and I love how out of the way the condensers are for the toms ,
I have the audix kit and wouldn't mind doing what you're doing here,
however, a friend of mine had let me borrow some blue microphones that were around $800 each, they were INCREDIBLE on overheads
Great presentation Tony, Well done sir!
Thanks so much!!
Very informative, I really appreciate this one. The extra detail in the Earthworks mics was nice to hear. Probably wouldn't matter on a typical club gig, but for recording the extra details would be a nice option. Excellent choice in cymbals, BTW. That 22" DEMKII is a freak of nature, it never washes out when played aggressively and the stick sound comes right back after you crash it.
Thanks for the kind words Mike. Agreed, that ride is something else!
Earthworks sound is much closer to reality than Audix, that's for sure. Bass drum has a more punchy , rounder sound. Toms are more open and detailed, while you can't hear that huge difference on the overheads. Do they justify a price 3 times higher? Probably not but as usually happens in the hifi world, I'm a high-end addicted, a small difference requires a significant outlay. As far as the British kit I do confirm once again that it's one of my favourites and your videos follow the same rule. great job!
your sonor drums vault at the end was majestic.
We have a few... 😉
I love these demos. The Audix getts my vote.
“I basically make it sound the way it to me in the room.”
So glad you guys don’t go for that, “Minimal processing to hear what it really sounds like.” That’s like saying, “I’m not going to process this digital photo because a camera sees exactly the way our eyes see.”
It takes a lot of processing t get things to even approximate how they sound irl. And it’s alway just a shadow of the real thing. And you do a great job at it. Keep up the great work!
Exactly. Thank you. 🙏
Thanks so much Geoff! You are absolutely right, microphones do not hear the same way our ears do!
Awesome video! Bravo.
Thank you very much!
The processed full mix is so dope damn
I like dynamics on the drums and condensers on the cymbals and overheads. By the time you gate, compress, and eq the mics for the mix it will sound different. In the room they got an excellent starting point with both mic setups.
Would love to see you do a comparison of the Telefunken drum pack against the Earthworks or Audix since they both are dynamic mics.🙏🏽👍🏽🥁
This video was amazing to watch and hear, definitely one if not the best drum product videos out there!
Great video! Very informative!
Thank you and glad you enjoyed it!
I’m considering getting the audix dm7 set so this is incredibly helpful.
Glad to hear it!
It just goes to show that it’s all about the room, the mic placement, and the drum. Tony knows what he’s doing and doesn’t need to rely on high end preamps for the videos. And he uses the right mic for the job for the room. I recently recorded drums in a larger room using an alternative setup with Presonus preamps instead of my Dakings, and with cheaper dynamic and condenser mics through a lower end system than usual. I got one of the best drum sounds ever with that setup. Great video as always guys! Tony I though you were using the Focusrite Clarett 8pre before?
I use a Sure SM57 (Same price range as the Audix i5) for the snare and a SM52 for the bass. The Earthworks are awesome, but super pricey for my needs lol. Great video, always was confused about measuring the over-heads. Well that is easy to do 😀. Cool tip, and nice video. Oh yeah, thinking of getting a Paiste Dark Energy Mk 1 22" ride, noticed you got the MKII. Cool
I prefer the Audix mic for the kick, but the Earthwork mics really makes the toms and snare sing.
When I visited the store for the first time (and also bought a Sonor kit) I couldn't tell where inside the building you guys film these. But now I see.
Hope the kit is still treating you well! Yeah our recording space is up on the top floor. Next time you are in, you can check it out!
@@drumcenternh Cool man! Yeah, I am extremely pleased with these bad boys.
Sounds AMAZING!!!
Thanks for doing this video! I think it might be my favorite one! I def watched it all the way thought without skipping ahead, and that never happens, haha. Would love a look into the signal processing. Ive got an ancient Audix kit (came with no overheads) and my raw sound is close to yours, but your processed sound is much different than what I can manage. Im assuming compression and just a bit of eq but it would still be fun to see specifics. thanks!
That's awesome and thanks so much for the kind words! Processing wise, I am not doing anything crazy, but I would be happy to answer any questions you may have. Shoot me an email: tony@drumcenternh.com
Great video . Earthworks hands down . Like standing in the room
Great video! I am buying a mic kit and was looking at both of these. The clarity of the earthworks is undeniable, however if I was recording a darker record I might not want that super clarity. Audix overall kit sounded good as well! Both a vibe for sure and very usable in a pro situation. If your blending with samples Audix might be the way to go.
My tastes on these two mic kits mirror what you picked out of them to use for "house" mics. The Audix snare mic sounded way more natural and live; the EW snare mic sounded pinched and dark in comparison. That same focus helped the EWs shine on the toms, and I personally thought the overheads were a close call, but liked the EWs a bit more. The Audix D6 is loved by some, disliked by others for its pre-EQed sound, but I much preferred it here over the EW mic. I understand sticking with an aesthetic, but I don't see how a skinny condenser mic can really do the best job in capturing a kick drum sound. Great job as always Tony!
Great tutorial and insight into getting good drum sounds. Would you consider doing one where you explain in-depth the processing and how you go from raw drums to adding effects & plug-ins? That would be most helpful and I’m sure something many of us would be interested in. Thanks!
Thank you! In the future, we may do a video like that. In the meantime, feel free shoot Tony and email: tony@drumcenternh.com
I have in-depth experience with both of these sets of mics. I gig using the Audix kit, and my church uses the Earthworks kit.
For super clean detail and a really accurate capture of the raw tone of the drums and cymbals, the Earthworks mics take the win. They capture transients super well, are very sensitive, and produce fat tones. The mounts, however, are an absolute pain to work with, and I would hate to have to set up and tear down these things night after night.
The Audix mics are a little more "pre-eq'd". They sound great, very clean, big tones, but are not the most accurate representation of the raw drum sound. In a live setting, they work super well, however, because it's so easy to a great sound quickly. Also, the mounts are superb, reliable and strong, and really easy to set up and tear down.
If I'm doing recording or are in a situation where the drums stay set up always, I'm using the Earthworks. If I'm buying a kit for regular gigging from venue to venue, it's Audix, all the way.
Great stuff! Thanks!!! 🤘
Thank you Sebastian!
just recieved the audix dp7 kit, and only reason I didnt shop with you guys is sweetwater had the same set with a 3rd adx51 for 995 bucks, I prefer the audix sound more than the earthworks, only difference I can tell in the earthworks is they have a little more clarity, but I can solve that with some eq in my daw, good video, and Im gonna be borrowing some of your techniques
The sound companies micing up my kit use them all. Audix, Sure, Sennheiser and AKG. I like the AKG D40 on toms and Sure 52 on kick. They all do have a different sound so videos like this are great for comparison.
Both mic kits sounded good. The Earthworks on overheads were way better though. Snappy sounding drums too. Maybe letting people download and here the raw multitracks can be interesting. Not many have the experience of mixing drum tracks recorded with some of these beautiful instruments you’ve presented over the years. I’m thinking that SQ2 comparison 🔥
Those earthworks in general sounded brighter / clearer to me. I did enjoy the final setup and processing though, I’d likely also do a mix of the two brands/types to get the sound I wanted. I do appreciate the clarity and brightness out of those earthworks, but might not be noticeable by most especially considering the cost!
Earthworks are very clean, they give more of a picture perfect if all frequencies to me, thank you great video
Glad you liked it Joann!
@@drumcenternh I can’t wait to come visit hopefully next summer! (from Montreal ) You have so many great snares I want to try and find the right one. Happy new year and thank you
Wonder if that guitar guy from California has an opinion on this....."it's pronounced "audi" the x is silent, jeez!" Super informative well done stuff once again Tony, love it man!!
Haha yes!
I appreciated this video. Just picked up the audix DPk7 kit. While i appreciate the earthworks, the highs while crisp, are almost too high. The audix seems to filter that out naturally. As a Conguero, i cannot lie, those DM20's maybe something to use to record with, but for live applications, audix sounds a bit better. Loved both. Great video. Thanks.
Thanks for the video. Any additional info on bleeding comparison between the two types of mics? Theoretically condensers are more sensitive thus collecting more bleed from HH, snare or cymbals. Tks
Excellent rundown of your methods, and thorough review of two great options.
The Earthworks just seem more open and detailed all around; it's especially evident on the snare, in the full kit clip; I hear quite a bit more shell resonance, which I like.
The D6 on bass sounds more "finished," but not in a pleasing way; too scooped and too "metal" for my tastes. The beater attack sounds quite unnatural (the mic's near 10 db boost at 5kHz will do that).
Omnidirectional room mics in XY isn't something I see often, especially with the Earthworks, which because of their small diameter aren't very directional even at high frequencies. I'd opt to space them a bit more, but hey, if it works, it works..
The Audix was better as far as the snare and kick mic. The Tom’s and the overheads Earthworks has it nailed down. Definitely a great showcase of the mics! Great job Tony!
Thanks for watching and appreciate it!
Agree
@@drumcenternh you’re welcome
Yup, I'm wit dat
> The Audix was better as far as the snare and kick mic
I respectfully disagree. DM20 was superior on the snare as well. Its transient response is unmatched and stands out from the rest.
in general, the audix mics sounded more punchy, which is usually what i'm after for drums. the Earthworks sounded more open. i think this would work better for overheads or just about anything in a jazz type setting.
fortunately for me, i have a bunch of mics already. personally, i also use a combination. 2 dynamic mics and a condenser on the snare (one condenser underneath), 1D and 1C in/on the kick, condensers on my rack toms, dynamic mics on my floor toms. condensers for overheads and room. some of this is due to limitations set by my interface. i have to run patches of powered/non-powered mics. i can't control each channel individually. but, oh well. sometimes you can't control every little thing.
to sum up. you guys get a great sound, and i ALWAYS check your videos when i'm scoping out a snare drum for a potential purchase.
Great job Tony, the Earthworks definitely had more clarity and seemed to have a little more bottom end. Though the overheads for me went to the Audix. They all sound really good though. I do like Audix mics I've been using them for years.
Thanks John!
@drumcenternh great to meet you on Saturday as well. Let me know when that snare comes available, I'm all over it!!
I do think the Earthworks were just a bit better, but with eq, comp, etc., I think it would make it closer to even. It was also nice to hear that whatever processing you’re doing, it still sounded natural and not overly done.
The splash from his personal stash 😅 Nice ceiling height!
Came back to listen to this just to see the difference is how I remember it, given I'm about to invest in my studio again. I'm using the exact same gear, short of using Studio One. That said, I thought the Earthworks drum mics gave a bit more of an "honest" representation of the kit, especially on the toms/overheads....but, not even REMOTELY close to what's pushing a $2K price difference. Earthworks makes incredible gear...but, if you don't have disposable cash, it's virtually impossible to justify the price difference. GREAT demo.
This IS THE VIDEO TO WATCH
👊 Thank you!
The Audix. Hands down. Clear articulate and natural.
Forget about the Earthworks mics on the snare and kick. I'd go with the Audix. Now for the tom toms, floor toms, and overhead- that's a game changer!
That is our go-to set up!
I work as a PA operator in Japan.
The DK7 microphone kit from Earthworks is my favorite. I regularly use and prefer it.
Earthworks' microphones have a consistent frequency response, providing a wonderfully transparent sound that faithfully represents what I hear. This makes them highly effective when processing with EQ and other adjustments.
However, AUDIX's DP Kit, despite being budget-friendly, delivers the distinctive colored sound of dynamic microphones, providing outstanding cost performance.
If only both microphone holders were a bit more user-friendly, the setup would be more convenient during work.
Thank you.
Most drums mics on market tend over enhance the low and low mids and tend to be scooped. The earthworks are way more natural sounding. Depends on what you want. If doing rock or metal I'd choose audix. If lighter def earthworks. The earthworks overheads though always sound great. Good comparison though. I use a huge mix of stuff depending on what I'm doing. Sometimes just a few ribbons over and around the kit is enough Thanks guys. Good stuff
I much prefer the sound of the dynamic close mics, just a warmer more direct sound. I can see why you'd want a much sharper stick sound for playing metal or louder genres but mostly it's easier to mix drums that don't peak so wildly. Also I feel like a lot of the sound in your demos tends more towards a "live" drum sound with wide open toms and snare whereas in the studio you often are better off with a more muted sound since you will likely end up applying more compression and don't want the drums ringing forever.
Great video! I’m just a drummer, no engineering experience. But the Audix mics sound almost pre EQ’d in their response. I liked that on the BD and snare, but wonder if you lose details in the frequencies? Would you be better off going with more detail and EQing yourself? Thanks !
Thanks! The Audix mics definitely have a bit more of a pre-eqed sound. The Earthworks are more detailed, but you don't loose a ton with the Audix either.
Love this!! What is that clip/clamp you have holding the i5 and the adx52 together on the snare? I can't find that anywhere
Thank you! That is a Wilkinson Audio clip.
@@drumcenternh Perfect! I learned so much from this video. I think it's awesome that you guys aren't just in the retail side, but you're really educating us all as well. I thank you again.
I like the earthworks better except for the kick. Moneywise I would just throw down a bit more overtime and wait a lil longer to get the more expensive ones.
Really love those cymbals by the way.
Nice, yeah they are killer mics. Agreed on the cymbals 😉
It's a great video! Thanks! Just one observation... The condenser and dynamic microphones, work differently. So, putting them at the same distance is not a completely fair comparison. :)
That may be true, but these Earthworks mics are designed to be placed like this. A little different than traditional condenser mics.
No wing nuts on top the cymbal stands. I had a drum teacher that taught me only if I was playing a gig in a tornado would I need wing nuts on top of my cymbal stands. 🥳
I thought the Earthworks mics had more air and a touch more presence, but was shocked to hear their kick drum mic seemingly distort the capsule! Defo distortion there. But, in the full kit unmixed DK7 clip, it sounded great! IMO not worth the 2k more. Also, this test doesn't show the off axis rejection, typically btwn snare/tom and hats. When bleed is our friend tho right? Great channel, love it!
Yeah, I hear what you are saying with the Earthworks kick drum mic. It does capture the sound differently than most bass drum mics. As far as off-axis rejection, the Earthworks stuff definitely excels with this. The bleed is low and the bleed that is there is actually quite musical. Thanks for the kind words by the way!
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Grt vid!!
Question. Why isn't t bass drum given a mic on t batter side?
I do this sometimes, but given its position, it picks up a lot of the bottom snare. Very cool sound, just a bit more tricky to use.
@Drum Center of Portsmouth thanks for answering. I can see t prob. 🍻
Tony I so appreciate the video. I have the Audix DP7 mic set and was looking to upgrade to the Earthworks DK7. Honestly Tony, I know the Earthworks Mics offer a different type of recording sound but a difference between $1,000 versus $2,999. I don't quite hear the extra $2,000 in tonality in the demo. Am I that wrong?
Glad to hear it was helpful! Not wrong, the differences are subtle. That being said, I would consider adding a couple of Earthworks mics where it really matters, like the overheads. I think the D6, i5, D2, and D4s are great, but the SR25s are a definite upgrade as far as the overheads are concerned. I hope this is helpful! - Tony
Audix for the low end earthworks for the high end
I think I like the audix overheads best and bass and snare mics. Earthworks on the toms.
Do you all go from the mixer to computer via USB or through a microphone input? Thanks for the great content!
The mixer is connected to the computer via USB. Glad you enjoyed it!
Earthworks for snare and cymbals but audix for everything else
Any chance of going through what processing is applied to the drum tracks?
We may do something like this in the future, for the time being feel free to email me! tony@drumcenternh.com
Solo OH example missed the snare. But overall, they both sound killer. Not sure I’d be willing to spend the extra money on the Dreamworks at this point… I have a D6 on the kick, generally a SM57 on the snare top (but sometimes an I5), and then a CAD snare mic on the bottom, which I felt interesting that one wasn’t used. I don’t think I’ve ever seen/heard a video with a bottom snare mic. Thoughts?!?
I don't personally like bottom snare mics. I prefer to have that condenser mic next to the i5 to get the high end and snare sound. Sounds more natural to my ears.
What is the point of two omni mics with capsules so close to one another? I get that they're phase-coherent, but aren't they also pattern-coherent? Is there a difference (except for volume) between one and two coincident omni room mics?
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If I had those mics I would do a blend, audix for kick and snare, EW for toms as it has way better transient and clarity which I would want out of tom mics.
I’m thinking of getting the Dm20 for toms, but a little worried about the bleed though
That's what we do. The DM20s have pretty good rejection and the bleed that they do pick up is actually quite musical.
The biggest difference i hear on the kick, both sound good, but i would use them for different generes of music.
It would be great to have a look how you mix the drums.
Thanks for the feedback, we may cover that in a future video!
Maybe a future hands on clinic? I'd pay for that! Great video!
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So what type of Processing are you doing with the mic setup EQ? Compression?
Mostly just corrective eq, a little saturation an mild compression. All subtle stuff really.
For the unprocessed the Audix sounded better to me but maybe because they are pre EQd. From what I remember the EW are flat.
The Earthworks mics are definitely a less "EQed" sound.
Agreed. I'm sure the EW give more play for processing, but the raw Audix sounded better to me. For the price difference, I can't say I can justify the EW.
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As much as I love Earthworks drum mics they're way out of my price range. I think the mics in the Audix DP7 drum pack sound great. I also like eSE Electronics V-Pack Arenas which are at the same price point. I've been considering both for a little while now.
I liked to the Audix actually over the Earthworks, but I am not an engineer. I just like to hit things... I am sure if I knew what I was doing, probably would get the Earthworks. And could afford them. I have some mics on my kit, just overheads and a bass mic, but am considering for my budget going to a Shure PGA 5 mic pack (no overheads). More or less for mixing into my headphones/in ears if needed and maybe some recording. I know they are lower end, but probably what I need for now. Thx for the content as always.
Definitely consider these at that price point: www.drumcenternh.com/audix-fp5-drum-microphone-pack
@@drumcenternh I use the f series live and they sound amazing, great value ! 👍
I highly recommend the Audix f series mics, great value for money, I find in a live setting, Dynamic mics work best, Condensers are more suited for studio work, as they're more sensitive, hence picking up more crosstalk 👍
I personally would go for 3 or 4 spaced arm length like John Bonham had. Easy and organic. Best sound recorded.
Great job, thank you ...that is a great acoustic sound. For me Audix is better , but what exactly happens in pro tools session, do you use some pluggins. If that is a sound directly from your Presonus mixer....that is the greatest mixer in the world
The processing is minimal but important. Mainly subtle EQ is what is going on. Thank you!
audix sound better to me
Only the bass drum was better with the Earthworks in my opinion
Audix mics are pre equed . They have internal circuit board that predetermines eq response.
@@loko306 i liked the earthworks better on everything except the kick drum, it was very papery sounding