THE PENUEL SHOW WITH ZIMASA VABAZA 00:00 - INTRO 00:05 - Show begins 02:00 - Different forms of media 03:58 - Limiting censorship within media 07:03 - Neutral platforms for differing opinions 10:45 - Farm killings & propaganda 16:00 - Western propaganda & misinformation 19:00 - Naivety vs propaganda 23:50 - The cycles of power 26:47 - Understanding USA's global power 28:40 - USA's abuse of power 30:09 - Similarities between USA & Apartheid government 34:29 - Thoughts on BRICS summit 40:55 - Sanctions & alliances 47:36 - Limitation of information & knowledge 50:50 - Why do you want people to be informed? 58:30 - Money & inflation 1:00:28 - Fractional reserve banking 1:04:45 - Sharia law 1:06:25 - Debt & inflation 1:07:48 - Pay disparities between genders 1:11:25 - Similarities between bank interests & business mark-ups 1:12:58 - BRICS bank & currency 1:16:58 - What are bonds? 1:17:50 - De-Dollarisation 1:19:20 - What's your overall view of the BRICS summit? 1:21:15 - Herman Mashaba on BRICS 1:22:50 - Adopting ideologies from existing systems 1:25:57 - Building communities through enslavement 1:31:55 - Social welfare 1:35:20 - Are you willing to stand up for your community 1:37:58 - What's your rough estimate for one's exit plan? 1:41:35 - Penuel's thoughts 1:44:42 - China trip 2:01:15 - Promoting entrepreneurship 2:03:25 - China's "serve the people first" bias 2:04:45 - Shanghai 2:10:00 - Understanding value chains 2:11:52 - What made China, esp. Shanghai successful 2:14:05 - Shenzhen 2:17:23 - Naval Ravikant on Joe Rogan Experience 2:20:25 - Importance of communal building 2:25:00 - China's succession planning 2:26:25 - Closing comments 2:31:45 - ENDS Timestamps created by Khwezi Ndlovu.
Pen 10k is reasonable to start ezilalini More especially if you consider the overheads in the first year. Also depending on what industry you are building or aspiring to. Yes you are minimalist we know but there are other unforeseen costs Anyway that's my 2cents
Thirty minutes into Pen's show and Mooshtaffa is on a roller coaster ride with speed! He does so, without any 'uhms', 'aahs' and other fillers. This content is beyond dope! Kudos to you you Pen.
I hope you enjoyed the whole show like I did. It's nice on the LiveChat. I was on the LiveChat up until @penuel himself left the chat to attend a meeting.
This Dude is super smart, Pen let him be a regular on the show. He’s just a breath of fresh air 🙌🏾. Hopefully one day I’ll have him on my Podcast, one love guys
I need ppl to help me transcribe my episodes into French, Swahili and Portuguese. And then dub them. We need to scale the education. Then add Spanish and Mandarin.
I am also closely following the same things as Mooshtaffa. He is incredibly knowledgeable and always provides valuable information. I truly hope he succeeds in whichever path he chooses to pursue. We need individuals like him who can ignite genuine conversations that lead to progress, while also empowering others to think critically for themselves.
The one thing I sbwl about this episode is I wish I could express myself like this. It’s so hard putting ideas into words and I’m sure it takes practice but wow and it’s not just them speaking English well but ideas into words
This show is hugely informative, empowering and an apt spur towards finding oneself and a jostling stick to build on what's already there. Thanks guys for being this open.
I must come forward and appreciate the knowledge that I acquire through listening to your podcast Mr Panuel, only to realize all I did was download but I didn't like nor comment, bro hats of you are such an inspiration and people like me that are interested not just in politics but in everyday life activities that through your podcast we learn alot, I must say you and brother Mooshtaffa are the goats of our time. As a Namibian I will say we are inspired and thank you once more.
Another Happy Monday to you all. Would love to hear your thoughts about Mangosuthu Buthelezi. And your thoughts on BRICS. Let's create value, and extract value... enjoy the episode 🔥🔥🔥
Mooshtaffa makes a valid point about the Western media often manipulating narratives about Africa. While there are undoubtedly numerous issues occurring in America, such as a struggling economy under Biden's administration, it is crucial to have individuals like Carlson, Penuel, and MacG who utilize their platforms to provide us with authentic information. However, it's important to acknowledge that this progress may be a gradual process.
That's true - Investing in Urban Areas in 2023 such as Johannesburg, Pretoria, Durban and Cape Town is pure madness. Rural areas are the future of South Africa - these areas will outstand what is coming in SA.
Exchanges like this are so fascinating. The exchange of ideas in real time sheds a whole lot of insights on what is actually going on when we debate each other. The segment about women in the workforce was fascinating to watch because you guys spoke past each other about the same thing. I used to wish to be more articulate but now I wish for being better at listening and understanding what other people say. Good one gents!
Such a brilliant conversation. I am a 54-year old South African Chinese (my grandparents came to SA from China sometime in the 1930s). But when growing up in SA in the 1970s and 1980s prior to 1994, we were uniquely placed to see both sides (black and white), and sample a bit of both existences, as much as that sounds weird. Probably South African Indians have the same kind of experience in their history. I grew up a huge fan of the US, even wanted to move there as a teenager to not deal with apartheid SA. However, as I grew into an adult, I came to see and hear of the other side of the story (other than that put forward by western and English-speaking media). That very slow awakening has been accelerated only in the last 10 years due to new platforms for hearing thoughts and opinions that I would never have been exposed to in the past like TikTok . Having now seen the world through eyes that are no longer captured by the western narrative, I cannot unsee or un-know what I now know due to conversations and people like these 2 gentlemen. The Matrix is unravelling as more and more people become aware of objective truth, and become connected to like-minded people to form the new communities of our collective future. P.S. Please follow through on making your trip to China together , you can be the spark of the South African Renaissance.
I have lived in the U.S., China, and South Africa. China is a bleak place. Yes, it's "modern," but their (Marxist/Maoist) culture destroys everything of value. Everything different is bad. Everything old is bad. There is very little creative industry, very little critical thinking.
Listening to Zimasa I realise my algorithm is suggesting informative content. Theres so much propaganda from America and a lot of us who grew up consuming so much of their content are beginning to break free.
This guy is hella smart....nah Penuel you sitting with 10% just for recognizing him and acknowledging him 😅😅😅...I learnt so much listening I think you should the notes because I am....but thank you Penuel 😊 I appreciate this channel so much❤
Great conversation. With time, with such as Luyanda Jafta, Zimasa and Penuel, please invite and audiance have 30+ mins of questions and answers sessions.
I come from a small town Witbank(Emalahleni) in Mpumalanga the re some many mines, eskom power stations, service delivery is below sub par but my many are starving, no jobs but tendrrprenuers are running everything to yhe ground 😢...too many problems and less solutions
Amazing Conversation! Can the guys maybe increase the contrast(same as the train camera) and keep the saturation. There's enough lighting otherwise, the colors look less colorful.(Just my Opinion)
Yoh this Zimasa dude has a brilliant mind...and I love how he manages to keep his trail of thought even when Pen chips in. Epic episode guy 🙇🏽♂🙇🏽♂🙇🏽♂
Yep, pretty much true about how African people are relatively the same across the continent. Love how he meet his relatives in Zim who are Xhosa, from the same clan and the customs are the same. I am a Motlhaping(Tswana) and went to Namibia, and by chance meet some Lozi people. Who as I understand are mainly found in north eastern Namibia and western Zambia and maybe in small amounts in Zim, Botswana and eastern Angola. Well basically the Lozi speak a language very similar to Setswana and other Sotho languages. It actually sounds like a weird combination of rural Sesotho and rural Setswana(the Selthaping version) with all the 'R's replaced with 'L' sounds. I speak my Setswana and they speak siLozi and we can understand each other.
Technically, by definition, 'social media' is now 'main stream media', since the main stream is literally the medium of the bulk of (information) flow. And while certain platforms are governed by (benevolent) dictators writing acceptable (usage) policies, the broader internet platform still grants individuals choice in countries that value freedom of speech. I.e. I can go to Meta or Truth or whatever, just as I could watch CNN, RT, etc too. The Media is also known as the 4th Branch of Government, which, thanks to the internet, has shifted more towards direct governance 'for the people, by the people'.. whether we individually agree with those other people or not. Remember that the Internet itself originated as a US Defense Project under DARPA, to protect western democratic values where Marketing becomes important. I.e. gaining power through the shaping of popular opinion, e.g. KLT (Know, Like, Trust) and "Pirate Metrics' AARRR ( acquisition, activation, retention, referral, and revenue) like the Asians did early in globally promoting their culture.
I LIKED your comment even though I disagree with you on the first part. You cannot state that social media is now main stream media by definition. It's not wherether it's dominant in numbers or not. Main stream is by definition is linear public one way communication. Such as Netflix etc where you do not have any community. Social media is your RUclips and them. Because there's sharing of ideas and also greater chance of misinformation, profanity, etc. Therefore it's not by definition but by technicality as you ironically and obliviously observed yourself
Beautiful multi faceted conversation gents!! Let’s go to Shanghai. I learnt a lot and will go and research some of the things that you discussed. I look forward to the 200 people summit. Upwards!!
Crazy thought, imagine if the taxi industry opened a mutual bank and all taxis banked with that bank, financed vehicles, made their own tires, engine parts etc
On the "senile point", I once read a book by Paulo Coelho called Veronika Decides To Die and there's line there where he says "sanity is collective insanity" and I say that to say, it's okay to seek out things outside the "norm". It's okay to have a different opinion because this goes to show that you are a free-thinker and essentially a leader that doesn't just take what's been given.
Had the same idea about how we integrate people from rural areas in our retail shops, petrol attendants, taxi driver for minibuses uber, bolt etc with the agreement to upskill them
JUST WOW. AS AN 18 YEAR OLD SOUTH AFRICAN I CAN TRULY SAY WE HAVE 2 OF THE MOST PASSIONATE PEOPLE ABOUT THE COUNTRY.CANNOT WAIT FOR THE SUMMIT LATER THIS YEAR!!!
Amazing conversation, it definitely gave me a wake up call to become the person who wants to make a bigger impact than just in my life, don't know whether to call it a calling or what. But these conversations always stretch the mind and i love them. Patiently waiting for that summit.
Yhooo Mooshtaffa is super smart. Id listen to him all the time. You are always challenging me, i love these thought provoking conversation. Pen, you are brilliant. thanks bro for bringing us this quality conversations.
20:31 Hahaha! I'm 30 & I've kinda reached that "old crazy farm guy" stage. I always have to stop myself from killing people's dreams with what I believe to be the truth. 😂😂 And by "people" I mean my siblings.
It seems like these two gentlemen have a wealth of knowledge and information to share in this episode. However, considering the vast amount of content they cover, it might be beneficial to consider creating a weekly 30-minute podcast that focuses on discussing solutions to problems in South Africa and delving into topical issues. This format will allow for a more focused and concentrated discussion while addressing various challenges and offering potential solutions.
Please bring our brother Zimasa and discuss the occurrence of coups in West Africa. I want to know what its impact in the African economy and what good can come out of these coups for Africa.
Mr zimasa is one guy i really hope to hear more of him he is very knowledgeable & interligent i hope you guys can have something more like this or he should have his own show too really like the guy thanks to you as always mr Pen great show
This was dope, refreshing to hear someone who is solutions orientated. Danko!! FYI I would like to come to this summit of young people, I am in IT but studied Geography and GIS and think I can contribute my knowledge of spatial planning.
This is the kind of conversations we need as a country, not people who are stuck in some old age ideologies from dead politicians,shout out to black pen for a dope interview as always
You guys (all of you on this and other channels and platforms) are doing great work. I am a fan and follower of your works and conversations. My critic is that no amount of dialogue is going to change things. The only people that have any impact are those that are in the team, weather management, or coaching staff or players to use a sports analogy. The fans can make noise and even get the coach fired sometimes but they can't win the league. So I would implore the leaders and followers of these channels that whilst the conversations are being held here and elsewhere, let us also have on the ground agencies that are intentional in purpose. Otherwise, it's all just hot air. Once we start organizing and building, that's when we will see meaningful change and progress.
Mooshtafa ngyavumelana nawe on most of your topics but as a shopsteward and a worker, I totally disagree with the exploitation of workers...As an employer you will never think for whats best for your employees...Your interests will always be in being profitable and thats exactly why we will always need Unions...The basic salary must be inline with cost of living thats what unions "must" always fight for.✊
These are just two informed friends having a conversation and we are just flies on the wall, that how you must enjoy the show, don't take it as an interview, I love it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But why nothi uMbeki signed for BRICS when brics didn't exist when he was booted out of parliament with a vote of no confidence in 2008 before BRICS even existed and South Africa Signed in 2010 during Zumas tenure. Zuma himself says it was his idea and Mbeki doesnt.
The idea of building a colony of a 1000 young people and turning it into a 'Dubai' as I disregard the enslaving encumbering laws of the State (Oranje style) is enticing and I shall be profiling a typical example of a similar colony in my next book 'Excuse me, Why are you still in a ghetto.'
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THE PENUEL SHOW WITH ZIMASA VABAZA
00:00 - INTRO
00:05 - Show begins
02:00 - Different forms of media
03:58 - Limiting censorship within media
07:03 - Neutral platforms for differing opinions
10:45 - Farm killings & propaganda
16:00 - Western propaganda & misinformation
19:00 - Naivety vs propaganda
23:50 - The cycles of power
26:47 - Understanding USA's global power
28:40 - USA's abuse of power
30:09 - Similarities between USA & Apartheid government
34:29 - Thoughts on BRICS summit
40:55 - Sanctions & alliances
47:36 - Limitation of information & knowledge
50:50 - Why do you want people to be informed?
58:30 - Money & inflation
1:00:28 - Fractional reserve banking
1:04:45 - Sharia law
1:06:25 - Debt & inflation
1:07:48 - Pay disparities between genders
1:11:25 - Similarities between bank interests & business mark-ups
1:12:58 - BRICS bank & currency
1:16:58 - What are bonds?
1:17:50 - De-Dollarisation
1:19:20 - What's your overall view of the BRICS summit?
1:21:15 - Herman Mashaba on BRICS
1:22:50 - Adopting ideologies from existing systems
1:25:57 - Building communities through enslavement
1:31:55 - Social welfare
1:35:20 - Are you willing to stand up for your community
1:37:58 - What's your rough estimate for one's exit plan?
1:41:35 - Penuel's thoughts
1:44:42 - China trip
2:01:15 - Promoting entrepreneurship
2:03:25 - China's "serve the people first" bias
2:04:45 - Shanghai
2:10:00 - Understanding value chains
2:11:52 - What made China, esp. Shanghai successful
2:14:05 - Shenzhen
2:17:23 - Naval Ravikant on Joe Rogan Experience
2:20:25 - Importance of communal building
2:25:00 - China's succession planning
2:26:25 - Closing comments
2:31:45 - ENDS
Timestamps created by Khwezi Ndlovu.
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Pen 10k is reasonable to start ezilalini More especially if you consider the overheads in the first year. Also depending on what industry you are building or aspiring to.
Yes you are minimalist we know but there are other unforeseen costs
Anyway that's my 2cents
4:11
Thirty minutes into Pen's show and Mooshtaffa is on a roller coaster ride with speed! He does so, without any 'uhms', 'aahs' and other fillers. This content is beyond dope! Kudos to you you Pen.
😂😂😂😂plz don't forget...Eeehhhh....eehhhhhh
I hope you enjoyed the whole show like I did. It's nice on the LiveChat. I was on the LiveChat up until @penuel himself left the chat to attend a meeting.
@@thembi9645 Right on 😂
@@SibusisoHlophe-dp5lq Awesome
But Penual interrupts too much.
Damn, I feel guilty for watching this episode without paying 😭😭
Well thanks a lot now I feel like shite too
Shhhhh, don't give them ideas. 🤫
😂
This Dude is super smart, Pen let him be a regular on the show. He’s just a breath of fresh air 🙌🏾. Hopefully one day I’ll have him on my Podcast, one love guys
Zimasa is pulling a Penuel on Penuel and Penuel keeps losing his train of thought!
Funny AF 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant conversation
I need ppl to help me transcribe my episodes into French, Swahili and Portuguese. And then dub them. We need to scale the education.
Then add Spanish and Mandarin.
Yoh! 🙆♂️🤔🤔🤔
Thank you, thank you, thank you guys. 🙌
I am also closely following the same things as Mooshtaffa. He is incredibly knowledgeable and always provides valuable information. I truly hope he succeeds in whichever path he chooses to pursue. We need individuals like him who can ignite genuine conversations that lead to progress, while also empowering others to think critically for themselves.
This is probably the best episode the show has had.
The one thing I sbwl about this episode is I wish I could express myself like this. It’s so hard putting ideas into words and I’m sure it takes practice but wow and it’s not just them speaking English well but ideas into words
This show is hugely informative, empowering and an apt spur towards finding oneself and a jostling stick to build on what's already there. Thanks guys for being this open.
I must come forward and appreciate the knowledge that I acquire through listening to your podcast Mr Panuel, only to realize all I did was download but
I didn't like nor comment, bro hats of you are such an inspiration and people like me that are interested not just in politics but in everyday life activities that through your podcast we learn alot, I must say you and brother Mooshtaffa are the goats of our time. As a Namibian I will say we are inspired and thank you once more.
Zimasa is so Xhosa, I like his vibe😂
Zimasa is such a remarkable mind 🙌🏾. I watched the 1st episode twice, even went out to go look for his other videos 🙈
Ray Dalio - Principles
Ray Dalio - How the Economic Machine Works
No one but ourselves can free our minds! This dialogue between you guys is golden.
Oh, please. Black men will never be free. They're too stupid and dependent
What i took away from this sit down is if we are looking to build long term, a lot of slave-ish shenanigans needs to occur
This is why I say Pen has the best podcast in SA . The calibre of guests is unmatched .
And he can deliver
Ekse magenge... I need all our braai conversations to flow on this wavelength !! danko!
Great discussion by two brilliant minds. Love it when you bring on Zimasa, the guy is a gem. Thanks Pen!!
Another Happy Monday to you all. Would love to hear your thoughts about Mangosuthu Buthelezi. And your thoughts on BRICS.
Let's create value, and extract value... enjoy the episode 🔥🔥🔥
Mangosuthu Buthelezi was a King 👑 Unlike King Ginger
I'm always waiting for your informative interviews Pen. At times I even forget to do work👏
@@dicksonmkongwa8952 😂😂😂 Please don't ever forget to work. That's more important!!!
Great episode man
@@SibusisoHlophe-dp5lq😂yey wena
Mooshtaffa makes a valid point about the Western media often manipulating narratives about Africa. While there are undoubtedly numerous issues occurring in America, such as a struggling economy under Biden's administration, it is crucial to have individuals like Carlson, Penuel, and MacG who utilize their platforms to provide us with authentic information. However, it's important to acknowledge that this progress may be a gradual process.
What part of America do you live in, that you can talk about Biden's administration?
That's true - Investing in Urban Areas in 2023 such as Johannesburg, Pretoria, Durban and Cape Town is pure madness. Rural areas are the future of South Africa - these areas will outstand what is coming in SA.
A Penuelist would Kno That we are having this guy for the SECOND TIME NOW
I know. Are you the real Elon Musk. The billionaire?
Exchanges like this are so fascinating. The exchange of ideas in real time sheds a whole lot of insights on what is actually going on when we debate each other. The segment about women in the workforce was fascinating to watch because you guys spoke past each other about the same thing. I used to wish to be more articulate but now I wish for being better at listening and understanding what other people say. Good one gents!
Such a brilliant conversation. I am a 54-year old South African Chinese (my grandparents came to SA from China sometime in the 1930s). But when growing up in SA in the 1970s and 1980s prior to 1994, we were uniquely placed to see both sides (black and white), and sample a bit of both existences, as much as that sounds weird. Probably South African Indians have the same kind of experience in their history. I grew up a huge fan of the US, even wanted to move there as a teenager to not deal with apartheid SA. However, as I grew into an adult, I came to see and hear of the other side of the story (other than that put forward by western and English-speaking media). That very slow awakening has been accelerated only in the last 10 years due to new platforms for hearing thoughts and opinions that I would never have been exposed to in the past like TikTok . Having now seen the world through eyes that are no longer captured by the western narrative, I cannot unsee or un-know what I now know due to conversations and people like these 2 gentlemen. The Matrix is unravelling as more and more people become aware of objective truth, and become connected to like-minded people to form the new communities of our collective future.
P.S. Please follow through on making your trip to China together , you can be the spark of the South African Renaissance.
I have lived in the U.S., China, and South Africa. China is a bleak place. Yes, it's "modern," but their (Marxist/Maoist) culture destroys everything of value. Everything different is bad. Everything old is bad. There is very little creative industry, very little critical thinking.
Listening to Zimasa I realise my algorithm is suggesting informative content. Theres so much propaganda from America and a lot of us who grew up consuming so much of their content are beginning to break free.
Thanks to platforms like RUclips. I love RUclips. Without RUclips we wouldn't progress at this velocity. No ways.
@@SibusisoHlophe-dp5lq Very good bro slicing through all this misinformation
Ammendment of our constitution is urgently required
This guy is hella smart....nah Penuel you sitting with 10% just for recognizing him and acknowledging him 😅😅😅...I learnt so much listening I think you should the notes because I am....but thank you Penuel 😊 I appreciate this channel so much❤
Economics 101🔥🔥🔥Thank you Pen & Zimasa for such a rich and intriguing offering.
Zimasa Mooshtaffa Vabaza is a gem❤one love from Thohoyandou
Please go to Nan chang jiangxi province. You can go via train from shenzheng. Alot of south africans and other africans
Great conversation.
With time, with such as Luyanda Jafta, Zimasa and Penuel, please invite and audiance have 30+ mins of questions and answers sessions.
I come from a small town Witbank(Emalahleni) in Mpumalanga the re some many mines, eskom power stations, service delivery is below sub par but my many are starving, no jobs but tendrrprenuers are running everything to yhe ground 😢...too many problems and less solutions
Beautiful conversations I'm a 90's baby and we used to buy books to get information,but now we just need data. Give thanks bafwethu.
I'm a 2k but I still think buying literal physical books is more cooler.
When two critical thinkers and incredible minds meet, boy oh! boy, am parking whatever am doing.. Thank you Pen.
WiFi iyahlupha ngzoyibuka later .Very interesting
Sorry about that. Might be loadshedding. Please enjoy work 🙏🏽
I love Zimasa! You are right Pen, he is a 98% so knowledgeable and articulate. I love listening to him.
I can't wait for the 200 progressive people Summit, Much respect to you guys you're actually giving hope to Us.
Arguably the best EPISODE of the show.💯
Amazing Conversation!
Can the guys maybe increase the contrast(same as the train camera) and keep the saturation. There's enough lighting otherwise, the colors look less colorful.(Just my Opinion)
Thank you. Will feedback to the production team.
Another productive, thought provoking conversation. Thank you Penuel 🙏
You need to make sure you have your intelligent hat when listening to Zimasa sana or else you will get lost
Kuyanyiwa strong 🔥🔥🔥
You will get lost like Nota.
Yoh this Zimasa dude has a brilliant mind...and I love how he manages to keep his trail of thought even when Pen chips in. Epic episode guy 🙇🏽♂🙇🏽♂🙇🏽♂
It very true Vabaza is knowledgeable 👌🏿💚... Thanks for bringing the guy back💯
Yep, pretty much true about how African people are relatively the same across the continent. Love how he meet his relatives in Zim who are Xhosa, from the same clan and the customs are the same. I am a Motlhaping(Tswana) and went to Namibia, and by chance meet some Lozi people. Who as I understand are mainly found in north eastern Namibia and western Zambia and maybe in small amounts in Zim, Botswana and eastern Angola. Well basically the Lozi speak a language very similar to Setswana and other Sotho languages. It actually sounds like a weird combination of rural Sesotho and rural Setswana(the Selthaping version) with all the 'R's replaced with 'L' sounds. I speak my Setswana and they speak siLozi and we can understand each other.
just to add an addendum, they are mainly descendant from the Sotho/Tswana tribes that ran away during Mfecane wars about ~200 years ago
We need a pt.3 Zimasa should come back again ✊🏿🔥
Mr Peneul, please let your guests speak and also please learn to listen.
Eish you can say that again.
This is heat!!!!
One of the best conversations I've heard on the internet
Technically, by definition, 'social media' is now 'main stream media', since the main stream is literally the medium of the bulk of (information) flow.
And while certain platforms are governed by (benevolent) dictators writing acceptable (usage) policies, the broader internet platform still grants individuals choice in countries that value freedom of speech.
I.e. I can go to Meta or Truth or whatever, just as I could watch CNN, RT, etc too.
The Media is also known as the 4th Branch of Government, which, thanks to the internet, has shifted more towards direct governance 'for the people, by the people'.. whether we individually agree with those other people or not.
Remember that the Internet itself originated as a US Defense Project under DARPA, to protect western democratic values where Marketing becomes important.
I.e. gaining power through the shaping of popular opinion, e.g. KLT (Know, Like, Trust) and "Pirate Metrics' AARRR ( acquisition, activation, retention, referral, and revenue) like the Asians did early in globally promoting their culture.
I LIKED your comment even though I disagree with you on the first part. You cannot state that social media is now main stream media by definition. It's not wherether it's dominant in numbers or not. Main stream is by definition is linear public one way communication. Such as Netflix etc where you do not have any community. Social media is your RUclips and them. Because there's sharing of ideas and also greater chance of misinformation, profanity, etc. Therefore it's not by definition but by technicality as you ironically and obliviously observed yourself
Beautiful multi faceted conversation gents!! Let’s go to Shanghai. I learnt a lot and will go and research some of the things that you discussed. I look forward to the 200 people summit. Upwards!!
See you there
Crazy thought, imagine if the taxi industry opened a mutual bank and all taxis banked with that bank, financed vehicles, made their own tires, engine parts etc
It doesn't get more educational than this 😊
Great convo gents as always 👏🏽👏🏽🙏 I’d like to be one of the 200 people summit discussing serious matters with other smart people.
great interview, Mooshtaffa has a lot of info to impart, wish Penuel could let him finish his sentences a bit more.
54:52 He's feeling overwhelmed by the pending replies he's been conjuring in his head. He HAD to complain.
"We need a commission of enquiry to see if this thing work"😅🤞
It's 4h47 am guys, this episode is like a PhD class of economics🎉❤🫶🙌👏
On the "senile point", I once read a book by Paulo Coelho called Veronika Decides To Die and there's line there where he says "sanity is collective insanity" and I say that to say, it's okay to seek out things outside the "norm". It's okay to have a different opinion because this goes to show that you are a free-thinker and essentially a leader that doesn't just take what's been given.
Had the same idea about how we integrate people from rural areas in our retail shops, petrol attendants, taxi driver for minibuses uber, bolt etc with the agreement to upskill them
You really good at inviting great people but you still need to listen more to your guests
He does listen
@elonmusk-hy6om not enough Elon Musk
Take Taxi owners to China and let them be ambassadors when they come back!
Brilliant Penuel, brilliant🙏🏿
The debate about women getting paid less 😂🔥
It's clear Panuel listens to Jordon Peterson
We should get Round 3 gents 😭🙏
JUST WOW.
AS AN 18 YEAR OLD SOUTH AFRICAN I CAN TRULY SAY WE HAVE 2 OF THE MOST PASSIONATE PEOPLE ABOUT THE COUNTRY.CANNOT WAIT FOR THE SUMMIT LATER THIS YEAR!!!
Top notch conversation,
That guest has a healthy brain 🧠
Talk about systems of thought.
We should always question everything, especially things that are supported by the west
Especially America. 🇺🇸
Garankuwa and hammanskraal industries are an example of something can happen here.
Wow u never disappoint,, informative conversation 👏 👌
We need more sit downs, "the debates or whatever"; Pen's words.
Amazing conversation, it definitely gave me a wake up call to become the person who wants to make a bigger impact than just in my life, don't know whether to call it a calling or what. But these conversations always stretch the mind and i love them. Patiently waiting for that summit.
Yhooo Mooshtaffa is super smart. Id listen to him all the time. You are always challenging me, i love these thought provoking conversation.
Pen, you are brilliant. thanks bro for bringing us this quality conversations.
Thank you, that is why Nigeria 🇳🇬 was blocked from joining.
I'm excited about this episode... Please organize and the meeting between us people who want to change the world. Exciting!
Very educational institution running here❤
"All wars are based on deception" - Sun Tzu
Great conversation gents I'm happy that's young people having these conversations.
Great conversation guys.
The interjections kept on escalating towards the end though. UZimasa couldn't finish certain points due to that.
20:31 Hahaha! I'm 30 & I've kinda reached that "old crazy farm guy" stage.
I always have to stop myself from killing people's dreams with what I believe to be the truth. 😂😂
And by "people" I mean my siblings.
It seems like these two gentlemen have a wealth of knowledge and information to share in this episode. However, considering the vast amount of content they cover, it might be beneficial to consider creating a weekly 30-minute podcast that focuses on discussing solutions to problems in South Africa and delving into topical issues. This format will allow for a more focused and concentrated discussion while addressing various challenges and offering potential solutions.
Please bring our brother Zimasa and discuss the occurrence of coups in West Africa. I want to know what its impact in the African economy and what good can come out of these coups for Africa.
Please! Or Rotendo
ZIMASA IS COOKING! Penuel LET HIM COOK!!! 😭😭😭😭🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mr zimasa is one guy i really hope to hear more of him he is very knowledgeable & interligent i hope you guys can have something more like this or he should have his own show too really like the guy thanks to you as always mr Pen great show
This was dope, refreshing to hear someone who is solutions orientated. Danko!!
FYI I would like to come to this summit of young people, I am in IT but studied Geography and GIS and think I can contribute my knowledge of spatial planning.
Shout to this platform long may the education continue, we are richer for it. We are not paying enough for this education
Great interview gents! took me a few days but well worth, already planning my trip to Shanghai
This is the kind of conversations we need as a country, not people who are stuck in some old age ideologies from dead politicians,shout out to black pen for a dope interview as always
Please make him a regular on this show. Atleast once a month. Such dope content! Well done Penuel.
Dear Zimasa,
Vibes Mjita!!!!! I love it.
You guys (all of you on this and other channels and platforms) are doing great work. I am a fan and follower of your works and conversations.
My critic is that no amount of dialogue is going to change things.
The only people that have any impact are those that are in the team, weather management, or coaching staff or players to use a sports analogy. The fans can make noise and even get the coach fired sometimes but they can't win the league.
So I would implore the leaders and followers of these channels that whilst the conversations are being held here and elsewhere, let us also have on the ground agencies that are intentional in purpose. Otherwise, it's all just hot air.
Once we start organizing and building, that's when we will see meaningful change and progress.
Mooshtafa ngyavumelana nawe on most of your topics but as a shopsteward and a worker, I totally disagree with the exploitation of workers...As an employer you will never think for whats best for your employees...Your interests will always be in being profitable and thats exactly why we will always need Unions...The basic salary must be inline with cost of living thats what unions "must" always fight for.✊
😂 Ayoyakho lemali. Imali yamantu. Tell that to Ramaphosa and all the politicians. PLEASE.
Am up midnight listening to the best informal but, way more educational with lots of fruity knowledge to rip..
The summit🙆♀️🙌guys im in Nelspruit.Zimasa come hand pick me piliz😅🤞
Cause they know that 1.4 billion people being angry is a problem 😅😅😅😅
These are just two informed friends having a conversation and we are just flies on the wall, that how you must enjoy the show, don't take it as an interview, I love it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro Pen knows how to carry a conversation
But why nothi uMbeki signed for BRICS when brics didn't exist when he was booted out of parliament with a vote of no confidence in 2008 before BRICS even existed and South Africa Signed in 2010 during Zumas tenure.
Zuma himself says it was his idea and Mbeki doesnt.
Damn!!! Imagine if we lived in a place where these guys were doing MacG numbers... 😢.. How do we get to that??
Thanks for putting us onto Naval Ravikant on Joe Rogan, the learning continues - slowly I'm converting to Penualism..
Am in on whatever you both decide am in. One of the best podcast ever. Congrats Guys. From Angola
The idea of building a colony of a 1000 young people and turning it into a 'Dubai' as I disregard the enslaving encumbering laws of the State (Oranje style) is enticing and I shall be profiling a typical example of a similar colony in my next book 'Excuse me, Why are you still in a ghetto.'