I've said it before, jokingly, but man this is true sociopath behaviour these are the same types of people who lack empathy to the point where they can torture small animals and if not stopped, become serial killers. They have no connection to society and it's norms and are so self involved that the entire universe has to revolve around them to the point that they lash out like this when someone or something challenges that perspective. It's truly, truly scary.
Spot on man, spot on. Couldn't have said it better myself. Is there a way to actually send in this video to a moderator or GM and actually have that griefer penalized for this behavior? If they're really starting to crack down on these types of behaviors, then surely there must be an avenue to send proof of team sabotage.
@knightcrux9596 sadly they won't react to videos. I have tried many times over the years. They claim they can not because they can be doctored or edited. Only thing you can do is report the player and allow them to investigate in game.
@@heythereguysitsMetro Damn yeah, I can see how some instances could be edited to try and get innocent players suspended. This case it's pretty clear as day what's happening, and I do believe that if they had a dedicated team to look after reports and sent evidence it would do way more good than bad but there's always going to be those crazy few that go the extra mile to do some really deplorable stuff like mass reports, editing "evidence" to get people banned etc.
Consider myself lucky then, thousands of pugs later I don't think I've ever encountered someone who has joined purposefully to waste others time before key starts.
I had a hunter do it in low keys once. Like 4s + running around barraging and feign deathing onto the tank. Then started linking his instagram and telling everyone how tough he is and to fight them. I wish I was joking. These dudes are proper losers.
Had a +8 a shadow priest pull an extra mob 2 times and caused a wipe the first time.. also played a +10 where the tank never said a word not even hi then left at 2nd group pull for apparently no reason and bricked key then the healer he came with immediately left too no words either The 1st on seemed a little suspicious but I can't say if it was on purpose or just an accidental tab target. The 2nd one was a pure toxic purposeful brick because it wasn't like he disconnected and stayed in party..he just straight up left the party and the healer followed immediately.. had many bricks but those were the only ones I thought might have been purposeful
This smells like the same flavor of trolling like that brackenhide key where the priest pulled someone through the traps. I feel like these type of people are sadists that actively enjoy ruining others time
This would and always will be an issue. No idea why you would try to dismiss this sort of behavior just because your mythic+ keystone doesn't go backwards from an 8 to a 7 lol
@@omy8443 ya just never invite anyone who doesn't need the key for score if you want to avoid that. Problem is with 8s it's hard to avoid. That will change next week at least.
Don't worry about that. I pug all the time, almost exclusively, and I'm clicking join as fast as the declines or filled groups will let me. I'm not even looking. Sure, weird people are out there, but the system and speed everything is moving at, makes it harder than one might surmise.
Had a friend like this once. They hadn't shown their true colours before so I had no idea. Our key got bricked a couple of times in one night due to pugs. They got so mad they had the idea to apply to keys, get invited, and intentionality ruin their key and brick it as well. When I tried to tell them it was wrong and that those ppl were innocent, they turned their anger towards me. One of the most horrible experiences I've ever had, and that behaviour is truly scary. The way they just manage to get under your skin and manipulate is insane. When it comes from someone you considered a close friend it's a shock. I ended the friendship the next day lol. I just don't understand how anyone can behave like this in a video game or irl
Ya, the manipulative behavior is what really scares me. HOPEFULLY a lot of these people are only acting this way in game because they aren't fulfilled socially IRL. Behavior like this in real life is dangerous.
I had this sort of happen in early DF. I declined someone who was waaaay under geared to my key, they then applied using they’re waaaay over geared main but when I tried to invite them they declined my invite and whispered me something like “oh you’re trash, you wanna invite my high lvl main but not my alt? Really?” I simply replied “yes, your main will make this easy, your alt will make it much harder”
I have a small confession to make. I ran an 8 ara kara on my VDH alt for cresteses. Key was going super smooth, they kept skipping packs ahead of me on the left route after 1st boss, so I didn't want to finish the giant caster patrol pack and just figured I'd make up % later cause we have tons of time. We get to the last boss with 94% so the double venom volley mobs wouldn't cut it. We're on track to +3 the key still lol, but we end up full wiping last boss (happens). We run back and I pick up the swarmguard guy for the last % as people come back, and the hunter in the group remarks: "yo tank your route is trash XD" verbatim. Nothing said all key, everything was fine, I didn't respond. Continue the last boss, and I accidentally aimed my poison at the hunter (survival) and killed him, then after brez, I somehow accidentally did it again, and he was getting kinda mad. We finish with +2 and I just said "hunter died a lot" and left. Please forgive me.
considering how often people do deranged stuff IRL,like bullying,im honestly amazed stuff like this doesnt happen more often in games,i for one have never ran in to this kind of situation but i have ran in to plenty of freakz irl
Most sane League of Legends player 😂 Blizzard should 100% ban him, there is video evidence of him intentionally griefing just because they didn’t invite his alt.
Ya that's the thing that's always bothered me. Like we have direct video evidence of it happening. Now to be fair they have told me that they cannot operate off video because it's possible to doctor it. But still, the action needs to be taken.
Crazy, insane stuff. A disturbing thing to consider is there are many people that do these kinds of things and they're out there in society, too. Hmm, probably best not to think about it too much.
well usually they do it exactly because they're NOT out there in society I guess. Difficult to believe someone who has friends, job or any social bonds irl is capable of such pathetic behaviour.
@@NetherFalcon1 ya that's what's really concerning to me. I think a lot of these people are just children or people who have no real impact on anything irl though luckily.
@ That’s what I think too. I personally use WoW as an escape from a lot of things and I’m no kid either. But man. The entire world needs more respect, empathy and patience from people
Hmm, deja vu. Pretty sure those guys from Dragonflight never even got a slap on the wrist btw, and continued doing it as more people came forward sending me messages. Thank you once again for sharing these videos and raising awareness!
@@heythereguysitsMetro A few of my community members use to be in their guild, I've heard some stories! All is good my man, hope you're all good. Happy holidays and all the best for 2025
Wow just wow some just like to watch the world burn and ruin it for everyone. What miserable lonely people they must be to use such tactics online in a game to feel some sort of superiority about themselves
And this is why I've played more and more solo over the years. Whenever I've told people in WoW why I don't enjoy playing with strangers anymore, they most of the time go, Really? I've never noticed this, all my keys/dungeons/raids are always so friendly.. Ok mate.. Sure. Reports isn't doing anything anymore. Customer Service is a thing from the past, no longer existing. I've played since day 1, but I think it is time for me to leave and not look back. I'll miss my paladin (and the good bunch of 40 odd something chars that can actually be used for stuff), but until Blizzard actually start caring about people again, and not just how much money they can make, I'll no longer support them. Thanks for showing this video. At least there was no toxic direct language in this group, which is also a quite common thing. At least on the European servers.
@@SagasInStitches ya sadly at the end of the day we have to police ourselves. Every time some one sick of those people quits they become more and more the majority.
@user-kl6ch3th2m I have a feeling you may be omitting some information there! Love when people get banned then come back with a "all I did was say gg!" no one is buying that.
@@sirdiealott oh ya I don't blame him. I just thought it was funny that he didn't say a word and then just leaves and the warrior is like "wait who left"
This is evil level trolling lol. On the other hand, these wild assumptions about the lock's mental health are very funny. The guy bricked a low level key in Candy Crush: Put Spell on Mob Edition, he wasted 5 minutes of their lives and trashtalked them. Even if this was real egotripping (which I highly doubt, the conversation was full blown absurd, ding dong???😂😂), calling it scary or him a sociopath is just waaaay over the top. Some guys here in the comments talking about torturing small animals like what? Give me a fkn break. I'm totally against trolling, but this video was kinda comedy gold. Warrior minmaxing a +8 teamcomp by io, declined madman goes on main for a revenge, him flying thru the trash with portal, the group trying to figure who pulled when it was obvious, madman pointing fingers at the warrior, someone even linking the interrupt details taking the obvious bait. Pure sitcom.
It's obvious to you watching a recording, but people often are overwhelmed by just their gameplay, especially on big pulls, and don't notice who pulled what. And sure if he just trolled and left it would still make him immature, but trying to manipulate the group into fighting each other does speak a little to the way he views and is willing to use other people in life.
No this is pure sociopathy. Trying to trick each other into blaming the group leader is utterly disgusting and if you are here trying to defend it that won't go well for you.
@@heythereguysitsMetroI don't think this is sociopathic behaviour. It *could* be, if he had just decided to troll and picked a random group to mess with without any emotional trigger. This seems more like an emotional outburst. He couldn’t control his frustration and tilted hard, then started venting his annoyance, and took "revenge". While some of his actions might resemble sociopathic traits, this doesn’t make him a sociopath. People here are acting like he caused or could cause any serious harm. With what? Words? All he did was waste a few minutes of their time. These are grown adults, if they can't handle taking blame - even for no reason - in an online game, then idk. Not one mentally stable human being is getting harmed in a video game chat ever. Let’s avoid playing armchair psychiatrist and jumping to heavy conclusions based on a 5 minute clip of someone trolling in a video game. He won’t suddenly become a sociopath just because you noticed some superficial overlap between his actions and symptoms of a complex mental condition. I'm not defending him or his actions, I'm attacking this bs statement and this echochamber that's forming in this comment section. I know that creating a dramatic atmosphere for content is good, but still.
@@Cirbinskas44for one it’s not revenge they have not done anything wrong by not inviting his alt and second it’s not just wasting a few minutes of time they would have to re run another key to get the key back to this level ????
@@Cirbinskas44 It is absolutely sociopathic behavior because he attempts to convince the group members that some one else is at fault. Your blocks of text aren't going to change my mind on this brother. Its not an 'echo chamber," its just a vast majority of people with actual lives and social obligations will recognize this behavior for what it is. This guy is not welcome in this community and he should reflect on why.
I legit spit my drink at the monitor the moment the warlock portal'ed across the room. Just the sheer absurdity of it and the visual. The new endgame for some people is just trolling low mythic keys I guess.
Real talk, assuming this is really about being rejected from the key as he implies, then that is definitely alarming. This level of entitlement is incredibly dangerous both in game and out because there is no way it is limited to his gaming habits. While I do not want to judge someone based on their worst moments, I do hope this guy gets some help. Generally speaking, if you feel entitled to ruin someone else's day then you are the problem, full stop.
Right it's hugely indicative of how they may WANT to behave everywhere. I think a lot of these people are just cowards though and never would behave this in a real world situation where you can be pummelled haha
@heythereguysitsMetro Fair point, hopefully this is one of said cases. Probably is, like you said, it's easier to talk shit when you are not going to get hit, lol. I have had some pretty unhinged responses after "passing over" potential employee applications so I am probably a bit bias here.
Pugged a +4 NW recently. Just after the first pull our DK dps started to diss our tank (who was certainly not a top player, let some mobs untanked resulting in my death in the first seconds - I was the healer). Then he kept dissing the tank, pulling extra mobs, wiping the group repeatedly. We racked up 38 deaths until the bridge with the 2 fearing mobs before tank decided to leave, resulting in disband. I reported that fkin griefer DK. It's insane how big jerks some people are. They just don't even belong to society.
Just imagine they got a kick out of it for 5 seconds and then immediately went back to hating themselves and their irrelevance. People who are happy about themselves and their situation in life don’t do this
I tanked an 8 siege last night with a mage who had 2800 on his main. He demanded that the healer should dispel the dot off him first on the last boss because he is a cloth wearer and he has less armour. This literally made me lol. I told him armour only reduces melee attacks and not dot and spell dmg, and he told me I was wrong. He then proceeds to give me tanking advice to where i replied, " i won't be taking advice from someone who doesn't know how the game works." Man, I wish I had recorded it for you. I'm going to start recording my runs for you to see if I can get any more good ones.
i'll be honest. i did something similar in DF season 3, but i didnt tank the key. I was trying to get invited to +8 on a non-meta alt but a group kept declining me. I then swapped to my main with 2.6k score and instantly got invited. I told the leader that that was complete BS to deny my alt because it was a non-meta class in an easy 8. that healer was also 1800 at the time. i just left the group and got back on my alt to grind some M+
I thought this kinda behaviour died out in SL, because I personally saw it happen a couple of times. It wasn't the same scenario, just a really high IO player would sign up, the key would start and they would leave, and asked why they did it, the answer was my alt did not get invited so I'm going to brick your key. Also very surprised it did not happen once in DF. But yeah, very scummy thing to do to someone, if anything like this happens, and it is recorded. Players should be able to send it directly to Blizzard so these people would get instantly banned.
When stuff like this is caught in a video it should be multiple seasons worth of ban. The chances of this guy only ever doing this once and getting caught are very low. He does this frequently is my guess and because the chances of catching him doing it on video AGAIN are even lower, deff ban for quite a while. There is no defense of this, no rational sane adult would think this is ok, Blizzard needs to take action when it's caught on video like this.
Ya I totally agree. This should be a zero tolerance issue. I only wish I had a bigger reach. I never make it about views or stuff like that, but if these videos got ten x the eyeballs I wonder if blizzard would still be able to ignore it.
I think they should add a filter that rank player base on utility +interrupts . Most range players that i have seen around 2.8k-3k . They dont use their CD correctly.(alter time , fire breath ,…) my solution would be , each player has to make tank character and heal characters first then dps spec will be unlocked for them .number of times i scream in my own head when i saw mage not de-cursing themselves or paladin not using their dmg reduction on tank .
For names like that - there are people botting millions of names the second a new server pops up (Especially names that are only 2 letters long or have no special signs etc) There is a huge black market for things like that - asking for 5-10mil gold, or just straight up rmt per name
Hi, I'm a 3k rated tank and I have opinions about this pull. NO This is not a troll pull 12+ When you get to higher keys this is a normal pull. Problem is he gets 12 crests for this key, and that's what the warlock is here for. He wants to clear as fast as possible, not the clear the group wants. Hopefully with the change to how crests drop you won't have to deal with this again. He's not trolling, he is being an asshole and kinda should've left before the key was locked in.
Brother he joined the key to spite the warrior. Did you miss that part lol? Either way I agree that this is probably about crests so it should be lessened next week.
No, he was trolling. If he wanted me to pull more, then that’s fine, he can say that. He pulled extra and did less dps than me, a 620 prot warrior. I’m not 3k now as I’ve only been back for a couple of weeks, but have pushed beyond 3k before. This was a +8 in a pug, you do not pull extra boss took trash in an 8 with people you don’t know. That’s just an unecessary risk in an 8
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah, you're right, I didn't see the whole video and made a rush judgement. That's on me Edit: It's just wildly petty, like shit you're working that hard to push that high in what ever game, and you still found time to troll someone's key? I wish I had the free time this guy does, and I'm unemployed.
This particular key you know right from the first hallway, what kind of run it will be. This is the fastest key quit dungeon in the game right now, and it's not even particularly difficult, it's just at the front door.
@heythereguysitsMetro no you pull the first 4 packs (the 3 in the hallway and either the left or the right one), and then you BL. 2nd pull is the remaining pack + the 2 golems before the boss.
This is the most toxic season of M+ ever in the history of WoW. Your best option is uninstall. Anniversary was basically garbage content all designed to force you to buy mountain dew to get an in-game bike. There is no game left, only marketing campaigns for products and "microtransactions," like a $90 usd Brutosaur mount.
At the end of the day we agree that is strange that players like the warlock don't get banned for this. But obviously the shaman isn't getting banned for leaving one single key.
@@konekopon2865 It's not a single precedent, but they've been laying off GMs and mods over the years and increasingly rely on automation. Nothing wrong with that, but it leads to automatic bans/mutes and then relying on appeals to fix it(speaking from personal experience, i've been muted and banned from the forums several times and had to appeal before getting it lifted)
@@TsvetanDimitrov1976 sure but with the recent leaver ban they've shown they're not banning people unjustly for leaving, the only people complaining they received the ban left a crazy high amount of keys
People don't understand that they aren't being turned down, someone more geared or experienced is being chosen instead. It's not about what you NEED, it's about what you can GET.
Had a PUG group yesterday just trash talk me through the whole key. Made it my mission to get them to last boss and then wipe and leave. Every single one of them messages horrible shit after the key lol.
Though I have to say. Out of 100s of PUGs as tank and healer I've only had two really toxic ones. There are trolls and hateful, small people out there but the vast majority of keys just brick because of a few mistakes
You can also just play the key and ignore the chat, it's not hard lol. I don't understand how some of you have such thin skin in this game. You're not better than them if you just leave at the last boss on purpose
I'm not sorry at all. Constructive criticism is fine. But literally from the first pack it was "this servers full of shit tanks." Blah blah blah. I'm not carrying your sorry asses through a whole key while being denigrated.
Oh wow, the world is small. I recently ran with this Warlock (and also wondered how he managed to get that name LOL). It was a boralus13 key, which we closely failed. We talked about doing an invi skip at the start, which we did. When we got there, the warlock allegedly had cooldown on this pot - so he just ran into the mob group and instead of getting ressed, he released. Got lost on his way back. When he finally got there he ran into the group again and atleast got ressed this time. This cost us the key sadly. Now I gotta wonder whether that was a subtle troll. He told us he didnt know how being ressurected works. The run in question: mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-1/19454668-13-siege-of-boralus Put raider io in front of the link. YT deletes the comment with a full link
the shaman read the situation and just wasnt having any of it, sad part is this happens enough he gets flagged for leaving multiple m+ runs and could get banned aswell. gj blizzard
They can look at the chat logs and situation and deem it justifiable, it's not like eso where an AI is chatbanning people instantly for cussing in a solo instance.
Your video makes me wonder if Blizzard truly wants to do something about it. Currently if you put somebody on your ignore list, it’s just that character on your specific character. It would be way stronger if you could put somebody battletag on the ignore list if your battletag.
@@heythereguysitsMetro it's getting worse with each season so at some point they will have to get involved. I'm not sure the punishments by algorithm will do anything. I think they need real people to monitor this and correct this behaviour. They could use some sort of strike system. At three strikes you're out. They could look at the FFXIV. It works way better than the WoW one.
You know what would solve a lot of these problems? If your key didn't deplete unless you talked to the NPC to purposely make it go down. All of these instances would simply be a, "go next" or "lets just replace and go again" But sadly we have been fooled into thinking that punishment for the sake of punishment is acceptable or required.... Let the ppl go again and get right back into content, it would also cut the amount of time people spend in LFG.
@@DSR93 I support this message but that has nothing to do with this behavior so please don't try to loop this in to that. This is way beyond a problem that would exist because of a mythic plus keystone depletion.
We have not been fooled into thinking that though...? Removing or doing something about keystone depletion is literally one of the most popular criticisms of the M+ system right now.
@@heythereguysitsMetro In the video on the very first pull they wiped. The warlock is being a hinder to the group as you pointed out clear as day. If keys don't deplete, they kick this guy and get a new guy and move on with their gaming experience. I feel like if you could re attempt a key like you could re attempt a raid boss by just refilling a resetting. None of these toxic player behaviors would be relevant, not that they wouldn't still happen. But like if we could just replace and keep it pushing this behavior wouldn't really matter. Maybe I'm just horribly wrong, I've been horribly wrong before.
No you are right, but the video isn't happening because they are upset about their key going down a level. The guy literally tries to manipulate the group into blaming the group leader because he declined his alt. That's way way more serious than anything related to disbands and depleted keys.
Since the banwave people are very reticent to act like this in my experience. Did some 8-10's usually get leavers people atayed for the 10 CoT and despite not timing finished and said gj after.
I think there are many kinds of toxic behaviour. I can’t remember it completely, but I think before BFA you could report people and sometimes you were lucky that a gm picked up your message, started a conversation and solved the issue. I know Blizzard doesn’t want to pay for that anymore, but I wouldn’t mind to be gm on a voluntarily basis and do that job. Clean the game up a little bit. There have been so many issues in the past. Kicking people at the last percent of the last boss. Doing the dungeon on auto attack while watching tv on a second screen. Hearing you talk I’m starting to wonder about certain experiences I had in the previous expansion. For example we had a very high geared warrior joining as tank. At the beginning we were like ‘WoW, we got lucky and an over geared tank joined’. But than he started to pull as if we were in the MDI and started to blame the rest for not keeping up and performing. He didn’t respond at all to questions about taking it more slowly. Based on your video I start to wonder if it was a similar situation. And this is just one example.
@@heythereguysitsMetro when I read your message, my first reaction was I don't want to go that way. I don't want to record the game to police other people. But the more I think of it, the more I think it is necessary. The example I mentioned earlier about kicking somebody at the last percent of the last boss was also done by game friends of mine. Without context this sounds incredibly bad. But a part of me thinks that person had it coming. That person was toxic the whole run, pulling extra mobs, calling people blind and retarded and so on. Videos will help create context. Albeit that I do think the moral solution would be to not kick that person and report that person. Another example is something I had lengthy discussion about with game friends. If you have a party of 5 with 1 or 2 random people and a friend comes online, you don't kick a random person to invite that friend. You start the dungeon, complete it and than play with that friend. At least that is my opinion. Also a situation videos could help it. But I'm not sure this example is against the policy. Which it should be (again) in my opinion.
I will never be able to fathom the stupidity about behaving like these people do. It's beyond me to even pay a sub to annoy others and waste your own time as well. Insanity
@@heythereguysitsMetro my reaction was deleted by RUclips. Apparently reacting with 'indeed harder' isn't allowed. I wish you good luck. Here in Europe I'm not sure video proof would really help. We don't have an EU customer service anymore. If we make a ticket these days we have to be lucky to get a respons at all.
in S1 of DF i was constantly declined from keys that i could heal (24s/25s) and after being declined by the same people time and time again, i decided that i would que into their key after they bricked it to a 23 (id literally watch the same people brick 25s and 24s down to 23 while sitting in LFG) and my plan was to hearth out immediately after the key started and laugh while doing it. well, this never actually happened thankfully, i did make one attempt to do it BUT, even with a 24 timed, these people wouldnt even invite me to their 23s lol. maybe they knew thats what i was going to do, maybe not. but im a title healer and being outright *declined* from keys that ive already timed easily was just absolutely tilting. we're talking fully geared, fully socketed main and a meta heals, btw. tf is wrong with people
Im in a situation where i cant get into +13 keys and the m+ community is cringe af. My io is 2946, ive more 100 io more than literally the +13 party leaders, im playing Frost dk meta spec, i dont know whats going on and why the declines either. Alot of groups, are people who have already timed +13s, so im guessing, they want people that have completed +13 only? or they legit only want aug evokers? its crazy man, to legit not get a chance to play the game xD #Solomythicplusiscoming
I had a prot warrior intentionally not use mitigation and defensives just to make the healers life hell. He only used the bare minimum and let the healer do overtime. And another time I had a vengeance DH join a 8 NW to “practice” tanking after getting boosted in 10s as havoc. Since then I’ve alwayse looked up the tank bare minimum on raider io idc if you have 3k io if you queue my key as a prot pally and in your keys you were a ret pally you can get fucked
he definitly wanted the whole room, I think the issue here is that the warlock pulled the next room too. There is 3 extra voidsouls that will aoe you to death.
Well to be fair this is extremely rare, thankfully. And it's fully avoidable. Just don't invite people who don't need the key for score. Or ya know, just don't pug.
@@heythereguysitsMetro In his profile (s)he speaks English and Magyar. Makes him/her Hungarian. Maybe Romanian, Croatian but pretty sure (s)he's Hungarian.
Bring back name and shame. Hate on vanilla but this shit never happened then. Your character's name was your reputation, you couldn't operate in pure anonymity. If you got labeled as a ninja looter or a bad player to group with that character was effectively dead in multiplayer scenarios.
According to you though, based on previous replies to my comments..you would still expect people to stay in the group, even when I try to tell you lower keys are a shit show, but you know, the ones of us who leave keys like this are pieces of shit because we don't 'respect others time'. See...not every key is worth staying in contrary to your opinion that all leavers should be penalized. You can't expect people to stay in keys like this, neither can Blizzard.
how often does this exact scenario happen to you realistically? if you left a few keys a season due to some unhinged troll like this nobody would care, blizzard included.
:') am gonna share another game , toxic low game with u !! I'm pretty sure u love that stories since that u're own content !! not doing content from it so :p Well , What could be funnier than help a friend in an atal dazar 10 , when u timed it in 26 ... :') ... So , we got duble hunter comp , wich is not a good comp ... but it a 10 you see ... :') ... and ... the priest .... :') So , I'm tanking downstair , like i usually do , i'm a main dh , have to hunter , if we kill i grip sygil , we got add on yazma , if we delay i stun sygil or a hunt trap ... A dh aura is ... not good for it right :') ? So , The guy in 10 was teaching me that i had to tank upstairs to be able to greed more , then i explained to he the fact that u can trap etc , ( had two adds cc at end , was voc with the other hunt , it was my duo , so nothing was bad tho ^^" ) Annnnnnnnnnd , the hunt told me that i should be boosted , That i never reached higher than a 10 ( maybe no raider io available ) and that i had no place into a dungeon as a tank when i'm not able to tank a boss correctly :') :') :') ... Then he just left the game :') ...
Holy hell bro, that's amazing of you. Can you also predict the amount of people that don't give a fuck but still enjoy the content? I'll eagerly be awaiting your results dude!
It is not the game, it the new players now...the only way to solve this problem is stop playing the game. Because they will never take their accounts sadly.
No, absolutely the opposite. Every time some one quits over this those bad actors become more and more the majority. We have to stand up and not let this happen, one way or another.
That warlock is greifer, but underlining thing is that people are way too impatient and this season you can’t pull insanely big wether it’s 2+ or 20+ regardless of the gear the party Blizzard should see take majority of player base in term of their wants in term of behavior and adapt
This type of behaviour where you have video footage needs to be mass reported and the troll deleted from the game. Does anyone know if Blizzard reacts to this?
@@heythereguysitsMetro so, basically, that means whatever you report in-game goes to recycle bin since anyone can lie, obviously? Unfortunately, checks out. So sad, used to be the best company in the market.
@@heythereguysitsMetro well, I guess I misunderstand how it works, because how do you prove someone intentionally pulls packs to brick key? I'm not sure that's clear from chat at all, while on the other hand, it's quite visible in the video. What I mean, reporting in-game feels like much weaker evidence, hence my previous comment.
Game is toxic cuz Blizz made it that way. All wow is toxic due tot the fact that is ZERO new player friendly and everyone wants fast keys , in time keys which now are super hard . Game is bad design making people toxic.
No, this is way beyond anything the game would create. Did you even watch it? Are you really blaming blizzard for some one attempting to manipulate a group into thinking the group leader is the one wiping them all for revenge from not inviting an alt to an 8?
I was in an other side +2 on my ok geared bdk. Saw a huge pal tank queue up. I get dropped. I’m fuming. I get on my huge resto Druid queue up for same key. Get in. I decide to protest go afk after hakkar thinking the run will be ruined. I suicide and release. Prot pal tanks the whole thing while at same time healing the group while im watching from the entrance. You know how double mad I was then?? Haha
@@heythereguysitsMetro no RUclips, no more gameplay for this guy. But in all honesty, as much as I think what they did to Dilli last season is worse and everything, I can still see hope for those guys. I can see how someone can come back from that. For this guy, there is no hope. He should be banned from any multi player game
Ok mate i was with you until you started going about how this is "really scary behavior". Calm down it's just someone messing with people in a video game. This should be handled by the community, people should block him and put him on ignore list. You're doing the right thing in exposing this guy but jeez calm down.
@@maxwilltruck5074 he very well may be dude. Not sure how you can watch some one treat others like this and think it's not scary. Do you see people treat each other like this that often?
@@maxwilltruck5074Ah yes, bro has cracked the code on human psychology. Nothing is "scary" and no behaviour has any implications for anything else. He's "just an internet troll and that's funny and sad lol". God your single brain cell must feel so lonely in your skull.
that wl was crap sure . but some of this bad ppl who make the key and looking for carry while they suck big time must be punished as well . i never get mad at someone who get a player more geared and higher io than my alt instead of me . but they are alot of ppl out there that sitting on key wating for one dps for the whole 5minuts of my request and not geting any one while im the highest io with higher ilvl than all of them on my alt and litraly more than enough for that key lvl im aplying. those ppl must be punished hard , in that case im doing the same thing this lock did but like a man . not like pussy and puting it on someone else . ppl who are looking for free carry are as harmfull to the game as griefers . when i make my own key i never get any one with much higher ilvl or io than myself . unless when im playing healer .
See the referenced video here: ruclips.net/video/Ixj8cV1k5jQ/видео.html
If warlock ever left his basement he’d do something to get him behind bars nearly instantly
@@gentrelane that's my thoughts too
i imagine games in general keep MANY mentally ill psychos off the streets, these people are not well
That's a griefer. They need to be banned asap.
@@DXMKNA ya no debate or controversy here. This is cut and dry!
Yup. I’ve been reporting everyone who wipe once and insta leave. Fk it. I’m over the toxic leavers, fight fire with fire
I've said it before, jokingly, but man this is true sociopath behaviour these are the same types of people who lack empathy to the point where they can torture small animals and if not stopped, become serial killers. They have no connection to society and it's norms and are so self involved that the entire universe has to revolve around them to the point that they lash out like this when someone or something challenges that perspective. It's truly, truly scary.
@@kopitarrules it really is.
Spot on man, spot on. Couldn't have said it better myself. Is there a way to actually send in this video to a moderator or GM and actually have that griefer penalized for this behavior? If they're really starting to crack down on these types of behaviors, then surely there must be an avenue to send proof of team sabotage.
@knightcrux9596 sadly they won't react to videos. I have tried many times over the years. They claim they can not because they can be doctored or edited.
Only thing you can do is report the player and allow them to investigate in game.
@@heythereguysitsMetro Damn yeah, I can see how some instances could be edited to try and get innocent players suspended. This case it's pretty clear as day what's happening, and I do believe that if they had a dedicated team to look after reports and sent evidence it would do way more good than bad but there's always going to be those crazy few that go the extra mile to do some really deplorable stuff like mass reports, editing "evidence" to get people banned etc.
Consider myself lucky then, thousands of pugs later I don't think I've ever encountered someone who has joined purposefully to waste others time before key starts.
I had a hunter do it in low keys once. Like 4s + running around barraging and feign deathing onto the tank. Then started linking his instagram and telling everyone how tough he is and to fight them.
I wish I was joking. These dudes are proper losers.
@@Ougagagoubou ya luckily me too. I believe I had it once but I can't be sure. They just left instantly and no words were exchanged.
Thank God he's on EU
Had a +8 a shadow priest pull an extra mob 2 times and caused a wipe the first time.. also played a +10 where the tank never said a word not even hi then left at 2nd group pull for apparently no reason and bricked key then the healer he came with immediately left too no words either
The 1st on seemed a little suspicious but I can't say if it was on purpose or just an accidental tab target. The 2nd one was a pure toxic purposeful brick because it wasn't like he disconnected and stayed in party..he just straight up left the party and the healer followed immediately.. had many bricks but those were the only ones I thought might have been purposeful
@@Gutmonkey9 That tank prolly wanted to test something...and left right after he was done...toxic AF...
This smells like the same flavor of trolling like that brackenhide key where the priest pulled someone through the traps. I feel like these type of people are sadists that actively enjoy ruining others time
lol wrote the comment before I finished the video. Seems like you agree
I think there should be some form of key hell where people like this can only play with each other for like a week. Maybe it will reform some people
@@kalivann8409 Yeees, key purgatory.. you have to survive 10 keys with others in purgatory before you can get back into the regular pool !
@@kalivann8409 ya haha very similar. This one is at least provoked by something at least.
I dont think anyone would be sad w/ that warlock being banned. Totally unhinged, habitually online gamers are pure cringe.
Certainly.
This wouldn’t be an issue if keys didn’t deplete
This would and always will be an issue. No idea why you would try to dismiss this sort of behavior just because your mythic+ keystone doesn't go backwards from an 8 to a 7 lol
@ because I can leave immediately and use my non-depleted key to start a new group that has no apes in it
@@todor_todorov That has nothing to do with this video. I guess you didn't watch it or something?
No one is upset because the key is going backwards.
That is actually one of my fears I have when declining ppl that they will log into their main and brick the key.
would you want to play with people who have a much higher m+ score than you?
I do not invite people with high io to my keys lol. Its very sketchy when im in a 4 on my alt and a 2.8k person applies.
@@omy8443 ya just never invite anyone who doesn't need the key for score if you want to avoid that. Problem is with 8s it's hard to avoid. That will change next week at least.
Don't worry about that. I pug all the time, almost exclusively, and I'm clicking join as fast as the declines or filled groups will let me. I'm not even looking. Sure, weird people are out there, but the system and speed everything is moving at, makes it harder than one might surmise.
do not decline. Just let them sit there.
Had a friend like this once. They hadn't shown their true colours before so I had no idea. Our key got bricked a couple of times in one night due to pugs. They got so mad they had the idea to apply to keys, get invited, and intentionality ruin their key and brick it as well. When I tried to tell them it was wrong and that those ppl were innocent, they turned their anger towards me. One of the most horrible experiences I've ever had, and that behaviour is truly scary. The way they just manage to get under your skin and manipulate is insane. When it comes from someone you considered a close friend it's a shock. I ended the friendship the next day lol. I just don't understand how anyone can behave like this in a video game or irl
Ya, the manipulative behavior is what really scares me. HOPEFULLY a lot of these people are only acting this way in game because they aren't fulfilled socially IRL. Behavior like this in real life is dangerous.
if a day is like that, you stop playing, watch a movie or so and try tomorrow, not fuck up other peoples play...
I had this sort of happen in early DF. I declined someone who was waaaay under geared to my key, they then applied using they’re waaaay over geared main but when I tried to invite them they declined my invite and whispered me something like “oh you’re trash, you wanna invite my high lvl main but not my alt? Really?”
I simply replied “yes, your main will make this easy, your alt will make it much harder”
Hahaha ya it seems pretty straight forward right? Idk why these people don't understand no one wants their alts
I have a small confession to make. I ran an 8 ara kara on my VDH alt for cresteses. Key was going super smooth, they kept skipping packs ahead of me on the left route after 1st boss, so I didn't want to finish the giant caster patrol pack and just figured I'd make up % later cause we have tons of time. We get to the last boss with 94% so the double venom volley mobs wouldn't cut it. We're on track to +3 the key still lol, but we end up full wiping last boss (happens). We run back and I pick up the swarmguard guy for the last % as people come back, and the hunter in the group remarks: "yo tank your route is trash XD" verbatim. Nothing said all key, everything was fine, I didn't respond. Continue the last boss, and I accidentally aimed my poison at the hunter (survival) and killed him, then after brez, I somehow accidentally did it again, and he was getting kinda mad. We finish with +2 and I just said "hunter died a lot" and left. Please forgive me.
I would forgive you if you recorded it and sent it in!
considering how often people do deranged stuff IRL,like bullying,im honestly amazed stuff like this doesnt happen more often in games,i for one have never ran in to this kind of situation but i have ran in to plenty of freakz irl
It's because it doesn't happen that often, you just always hear about it
@@alexis1156 ya that's how I imagine it is for all of this stuff. There was zero bullying in my high school when I grew up for example.
That is honestly scary dude.That is a Psychopath. Such manipulative behaviour should honestly be a straight up bannable offense.
Ya, should be zero leash for this sort of thing.
Most sane League of Legends player 😂
Blizzard should 100% ban him, there is video evidence of him intentionally griefing just because they didn’t invite his alt.
Ya that's the thing that's always bothered me. Like we have direct video evidence of it happening.
Now to be fair they have told me that they cannot operate off video because it's possible to doctor it.
But still, the action needs to be taken.
Crazy, insane stuff. A disturbing thing to consider is there are many people that do these kinds of things and they're out there in society, too. Hmm, probably best not to think about it too much.
well usually they do it exactly because they're NOT out there in society I guess. Difficult to believe someone who has friends, job or any social bonds irl is capable of such pathetic behaviour.
@@NetherFalcon1 ya that's what's really concerning to me. I think a lot of these people are just children or people who have no real impact on anything irl though luckily.
@@Aethermie I hope they stay out of society because it's horrible
@ That’s what I think too. I personally use WoW as an escape from a lot of things and I’m no kid either. But man. The entire world needs more respect, empathy and patience from people
Hmm, deja vu. Pretty sure those guys from Dragonflight never even got a slap on the wrist btw, and continued doing it as more people came forward sending me messages. Thank you once again for sharing these videos and raising awareness!
Oh hey man, ya sadly you are probably right. Really strange that blizzard doesn't seem to care. Hope you are well!
@@heythereguysitsMetro A few of my community members use to be in their guild, I've heard some stories! All is good my man, hope you're all good. Happy holidays and all the best for 2025
Where can we submit videos to you?
Best way is via email. Onelegiontv@gmail.com
Wow just wow some just like to watch the world burn and ruin it for everyone. What miserable lonely people they must be to use such tactics online in a game to feel some sort of superiority about themselves
Ya just pathetic people all around.
You know its a good day when Metro uploads. Thanks for the great content man.
Should have four this weekend through Tuesday
And this is why I've played more and more solo over the years. Whenever I've told people in WoW why I don't enjoy playing with strangers anymore, they most of the time go, Really? I've never noticed this, all my keys/dungeons/raids are always so friendly.. Ok mate.. Sure. Reports isn't doing anything anymore. Customer Service is a thing from the past, no longer existing. I've played since day 1, but I think it is time for me to leave and not look back. I'll miss my paladin (and the good bunch of 40 odd something chars that can actually be used for stuff), but until Blizzard actually start caring about people again, and not just how much money they can make, I'll no longer support them. Thanks for showing this video. At least there was no toxic direct language in this group, which is also a quite common thing. At least on the European servers.
@@SagasInStitches ya sadly at the end of the day we have to police ourselves. Every time some one sick of those people quits they become more and more the majority.
@user-kl6ch3th2m I have a feeling you may be omitting some information there! Love when people get banned then come back with a "all I did was say gg!" no one is buying that.
@@konekopon2865 Wait till it happens to you smart guy. All it takes is a person with a report bot.
TBH if I was the sham I'd leave too. You can't keep going with someone trolling.
@@sirdiealott oh ya I don't blame him. I just thought it was funny that he didn't say a word and then just leaves and the warrior is like "wait who left"
This is evil level trolling lol. On the other hand, these wild assumptions about the lock's mental health are very funny. The guy bricked a low level key in Candy Crush: Put Spell on Mob Edition, he wasted 5 minutes of their lives and trashtalked them. Even if this was real egotripping (which I highly doubt, the conversation was full blown absurd, ding dong???😂😂), calling it scary or him a sociopath is just waaaay over the top. Some guys here in the comments talking about torturing small animals like what? Give me a fkn break. I'm totally against trolling, but this video was kinda comedy gold. Warrior minmaxing a +8 teamcomp by io, declined madman goes on main for a revenge, him flying thru the trash with portal, the group trying to figure who pulled when it was obvious, madman pointing fingers at the warrior, someone even linking the interrupt details taking the obvious bait. Pure sitcom.
It's obvious to you watching a recording, but people often are overwhelmed by just their gameplay, especially on big pulls, and don't notice who pulled what. And sure if he just trolled and left it would still make him immature, but trying to manipulate the group into fighting each other does speak a little to the way he views and is willing to use other people in life.
No this is pure sociopathy. Trying to trick each other into blaming the group leader is utterly disgusting and if you are here trying to defend it that won't go well for you.
@@heythereguysitsMetroI don't think this is sociopathic behaviour. It *could* be, if he had just decided to troll and picked a random group to mess with without any emotional trigger. This seems more like an emotional outburst. He couldn’t control his frustration and tilted hard, then started venting his annoyance, and took "revenge". While some of his actions might resemble sociopathic traits, this doesn’t make him a sociopath. People here are acting like he caused or could cause any serious harm. With what? Words? All he did was waste a few minutes of their time. These are grown adults, if they can't handle taking blame - even for no reason - in an online game, then idk. Not one mentally stable human being is getting harmed in a video game chat ever. Let’s avoid playing armchair psychiatrist and jumping to heavy conclusions based on a 5 minute clip of someone trolling in a video game. He won’t suddenly become a sociopath just because you noticed some superficial overlap between his actions and symptoms of a complex mental condition. I'm not defending him or his actions, I'm attacking this bs statement and this echochamber that's forming in this comment section. I know that creating a dramatic atmosphere for content is good, but still.
@@Cirbinskas44for one it’s not revenge they have not done anything wrong by not inviting his alt and second it’s not just wasting a few minutes of time they would have to re run another key to get the key back to this level ????
@@Cirbinskas44 It is absolutely sociopathic behavior because he attempts to convince the group members that some one else is at fault. Your blocks of text aren't going to change my mind on this brother.
Its not an 'echo chamber," its just a vast majority of people with actual lives and social obligations will recognize this behavior for what it is.
This guy is not welcome in this community and he should reflect on why.
I legit spit my drink at the monitor the moment the warlock portal'ed across the room. Just the sheer absurdity of it and the visual. The new endgame for some people is just trolling low mythic keys I guess.
Ya it's pretty crazy to see it unfold.
Real talk, assuming this is really about being rejected from the key as he implies, then that is definitely alarming. This level of entitlement is incredibly dangerous both in game and out because there is no way it is limited to his gaming habits. While I do not want to judge someone based on their worst moments, I do hope this guy gets some help. Generally speaking, if you feel entitled to ruin someone else's day then you are the problem, full stop.
Right it's hugely indicative of how they may WANT to behave everywhere.
I think a lot of these people are just cowards though and never would behave this in a real world situation where you can be pummelled haha
@heythereguysitsMetro Fair point, hopefully this is one of said cases. Probably is, like you said, it's easier to talk shit when you are not going to get hit, lol. I have had some pretty unhinged responses after "passing over" potential employee applications so I am probably a bit bias here.
Cant wait for this love your content Metro
Hope you enjoyed it!
That sometimes happens on Eu. That's why when I pug I stopped declining people and I just keep them in the queue forever.
Cus of you i cant queue for more dungeons. You give me falls hope. Hope your keys gonna brick
Just don't invite players who don't need the key haha
@@Robin...222 Hey don't blame me. Blame guys like this lock.
Pugged a +4 NW recently. Just after the first pull our DK dps started to diss our tank (who was certainly not a top player, let some mobs untanked resulting in my death in the first seconds - I was the healer). Then he kept dissing the tank, pulling extra mobs, wiping the group repeatedly. We racked up 38 deaths until the bridge with the 2 fearing mobs before tank decided to leave, resulting in disband. I reported that fkin griefer DK. It's insane how big jerks some people are. They just don't even belong to society.
That would have been a great one to submit for review!
@@heythereguysitsMetro yeah I should record my pug experiences :D Mostly they are fine but this was rotten to the bone.
Just imagine they got a kick out of it for 5 seconds and then immediately went back to hating themselves and their irrelevance. People who are happy about themselves and their situation in life don’t do this
A million percent correct.
I tanked an 8 siege last night with a mage who had 2800 on his main. He demanded that the healer should dispel the dot off him first on the last boss because he is a cloth wearer and he has less armour. This literally made me lol. I told him armour only reduces melee attacks and not dot and spell dmg, and he told me I was wrong. He then proceeds to give me tanking advice to where i replied, " i won't be taking advice from someone who doesn't know how the game works." Man, I wish I had recorded it for you. I'm going to start recording my runs for you to see if I can get any more good ones.
I really wish you recorded that one too!
i'll be honest. i did something similar in DF season 3, but i didnt tank the key. I was trying to get invited to +8 on a non-meta alt but a group kept declining me. I then swapped to my main with 2.6k score and instantly got invited. I told the leader that that was complete BS to deny my alt because it was a non-meta class in an easy 8. that healer was also 1800 at the time. i just left the group and got back on my alt to grind some M+
Well hopefully you have learned your lesson here.
I can confirm he does have 4 accounts and also can confirm he is unranked peaking iron (: top 50 eu LoL Can't fix stupid sadly
Haha
Yep, Players like this Lock are the main reason why im not running m+ anymore. Hooray for Delves.
Oh ya well tbf this is very easily avoided by just not inviting players who don't need the key for score.
The warlock put up a gate, flew past the mods, ran into the other area and pulled a bunch.
@@gussta1 I know.
Coulda been the warrior said the warlock haha
I thought this kinda behaviour died out in SL, because I personally saw it happen a couple of times. It wasn't the same scenario, just a really high IO player would sign up, the key would start and they would leave, and asked why they did it, the answer was my alt did not get invited so I'm going to brick your key. Also very surprised it did not happen once in DF. But yeah, very scummy thing to do to someone, if anything like this happens, and it is recorded. Players should be able to send it directly to Blizzard so these people would get instantly banned.
Ya it's wild when these players actually admit to it in chat and some how don't get banned.
When stuff like this is caught in a video it should be multiple seasons worth of ban. The chances of this guy only ever doing this once and getting caught are very low. He does this frequently is my guess and because the chances of catching him doing it on video AGAIN are even lower, deff ban for quite a while. There is no defense of this, no rational sane adult would think this is ok, Blizzard needs to take action when it's caught on video like this.
Ya I totally agree. This should be a zero tolerance issue. I only wish I had a bigger reach. I never make it about views or stuff like that, but if these videos got ten x the eyeballs I wonder if blizzard would still be able to ignore it.
I think they should add a filter that rank player base on utility +interrupts . Most range players that i have seen around 2.8k-3k . They dont use their CD correctly.(alter time , fire breath ,…) my solution would be , each player has to make tank character and heal characters first then dps spec will be unlocked for them .number of times i scream in my own head when i saw mage not de-cursing themselves or paladin not using their dmg reduction on tank .
what does that have to do with this video?
The warlock literally gates to the next pack. Straight ban in combination what he said.
Ya really wild.
For names like that - there are people botting millions of names the second a new server pops up (Especially names that are only 2 letters long or have no special signs etc)
There is a huge black market for things like that - asking for 5-10mil gold, or just straight up rmt per name
Ya maybe. Wild to think that some one would bother doing that but you are probably right haha
Hi, I'm a 3k rated tank and I have opinions about this pull.
NO
This is not a troll pull 12+
When you get to higher keys this is a normal pull. Problem is he gets 12 crests for this key, and that's what the warlock is here for.
He wants to clear as fast as possible, not the clear the group wants. Hopefully with the change to how crests drop you won't have to deal with this again.
He's not trolling, he is being an asshole and kinda should've left before the key was locked in.
Brother he joined the key to spite the warrior. Did you miss that part lol?
Either way I agree that this is probably about crests so it should be lessened next week.
No, he was trolling. If he wanted me to pull more, then that’s fine, he can say that.
He pulled extra and did less dps than me, a 620 prot warrior.
I’m not 3k now as I’ve only been back for a couple of weeks, but have pushed beyond 3k before.
This was a +8 in a pug, you do not pull extra boss took trash in an 8 with people you don’t know. That’s just an unecessary risk in an 8
I was only only here for crests, having already timed this on a 10
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah, you're right, I didn't see the whole video and made a rush judgement. That's on me
Edit: It's just wildly petty, like shit you're working that hard to push that high in what ever game, and you still found time to troll someone's key? I wish I had the free time this guy does, and I'm unemployed.
This particular key you know right from the first hallway, what kind of run it will be. This is the fastest key quit dungeon in the game right now, and it's not even particularly difficult, it's just at the front door.
The dungeon has problems for sure.
I mean on my 14 key we pulled the same pull to be fair. We were more ready tough for the interrupts/stops.
I was the tank in this video. If I wanted to pull more I would have. It wasn’t up the warlock to do it for me
You pull 100 percent of the trash before the first boss in one pull and survive it?
@heythereguysitsMetro no you pull the first 4 packs (the 3 in the hallway and either the left or the right one), and then you BL. 2nd pull is the remaining pack + the 2 golems before the boss.
@@jonathanjudenberger613 maybe in a 12 where you have a good idea if people in your group know that they’re doing.
Not in a random pug 8 tho
This guy plus it all though.
seems like an easy open n shut case of banning
It really does!
This is the most toxic season of M+ ever in the history of WoW. Your best option is uninstall. Anniversary was basically garbage content all designed to force you to buy mountain dew to get an in-game bike. There is no game left, only marketing campaigns for products and "microtransactions," like a $90 usd Brutosaur mount.
Try getting the in-game bike without Mountain Dew, like other regions it’s like flossing with razorwire.
@@Forsaken66666 what does the anniversary have to do with the mountain dew mount lol
Knowing Blizzard, they'll ban the shaman for leaving and not the warlock for trolling
on what precedent do you base that?
Sounds like Riot Games
At the end of the day we agree that is strange that players like the warlock don't get banned for this.
But obviously the shaman isn't getting banned for leaving one single key.
@@konekopon2865 It's not a single precedent, but they've been laying off GMs and mods over the years and increasingly rely on automation. Nothing wrong with that, but it leads to automatic bans/mutes and then relying on appeals to fix it(speaking from personal experience, i've been muted and banned from the forums several times and had to appeal before getting it lifted)
@@TsvetanDimitrov1976 sure but with the recent leaver ban they've shown they're not banning people unjustly for leaving, the only people complaining they received the ban left a crazy high amount of keys
People don't understand that they aren't being turned down, someone more geared or experienced is being chosen instead. It's not about what you NEED, it's about what you can GET.
Ya or ya know, just don't be entitled lol. Do your own key if you demand instant invites.
@@heythereguysitsMetro I don't even know what an instant invite is. I'm an alliance ret pally.
@@heythereguysitsMetro Also, "do your own key" is the solution to 90% of the problems in keys, aside from stuff you highlighted here today.
@@Tijuanabill yup!
Thank you for posting stuff like this and shaming these people I wish blizz would ban them.
@@Lordwolfie59 ya it needs to be done. Happy to spread the word.
that guy is possible to get banned if got reported now.
@@lastfaza8532 let's hope!
in some other games such behavior is bannable
Its meant to be in this one too tbf
what title are yall talking about?
Top .1 percent title.
@heythereguysitsMetro what is the title called?
Had a PUG group yesterday just trash talk me through the whole key. Made it my mission to get them to last boss and then wipe and leave. Every single one of them messages horrible shit after the key lol.
@cheebahjones420 that would have been a good one to record and send in.
@heythereguysitsMetro it really would have. I honestly think it was their goal. I hope blizzard took some action.
Though I have to say. Out of 100s of PUGs as tank and healer I've only had two really toxic ones. There are trolls and hateful, small people out there but the vast majority of keys just brick because of a few mistakes
You can also just play the key and ignore the chat, it's not hard lol. I don't understand how some of you have such thin skin in this game. You're not better than them if you just leave at the last boss on purpose
I'm not sorry at all. Constructive criticism is fine. But literally from the first pack it was "this servers full of shit tanks." Blah blah blah. I'm not carrying your sorry asses through a whole key while being denigrated.
Some people take declines wayyyyyy too seriously.
ya its really scary tbh
Oh wow, the world is small. I recently ran with this Warlock (and also wondered how he managed to get that name LOL). It was a boralus13 key, which we closely failed. We talked about doing an invi skip at the start, which we did. When we got there, the warlock allegedly had cooldown on this pot - so he just ran into the mob group and instead of getting ressed, he released. Got lost on his way back. When he finally got there he ran into the group again and atleast got ressed this time. This cost us the key sadly. Now I gotta wonder whether that was a subtle troll. He told us he didnt know how being ressurected works.
The run in question: mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-1/19454668-13-siege-of-boralus
Put raider io in front of the link. YT deletes the comment with a full link
@@Mydayyyx3 thats hilarious. Would have been a great one to record and submit for a follow up!
the shaman read the situation and just wasnt having any of it, sad part is this happens enough he gets flagged for leaving multiple m+ runs and could get banned aswell. gj blizzard
It obviously won't happen enough to get banned.
They can look at the chat logs and situation and deem it justifiable, it's not like eso where an AI is chatbanning people instantly for cussing in a solo instance.
Imagine being so butthurt about a rejection in a game that you waste your time to piss people off
@@kenker_ape ya this is really wild behavior.
I did a key with that shaman the other day, he was pretty sound.
cool
Your video makes me wonder if Blizzard truly wants to do something about it. Currently if you put somebody on your ignore list, it’s just that character on your specific character. It would be way stronger if you could put somebody battletag on the ignore list if your battletag.
No they genuinely don't want to get involved in disputes like this. But they have to. It's gone too far.
@@heythereguysitsMetro it's getting worse with each season so at some point they will have to get involved. I'm not sure the punishments by algorithm will do anything.
I think they need real people to monitor this and correct this behaviour. They could use some sort of strike system. At three strikes you're out.
They could look at the FFXIV. It works way better than the WoW one.
You know what would solve a lot of these problems?
If your key didn't deplete unless you talked to the NPC to purposely make it go down. All of these instances would simply be a, "go next" or "lets just replace and go again"
But sadly we have been fooled into thinking that punishment for the sake of punishment is acceptable or required....
Let the ppl go again and get right back into content, it would also cut the amount of time people spend in LFG.
@@DSR93 I support this message but that has nothing to do with this behavior so please don't try to loop this in to that.
This is way beyond a problem that would exist because of a mythic plus keystone depletion.
We have not been fooled into thinking that though...? Removing or doing something about keystone depletion is literally one of the most popular criticisms of the M+ system right now.
@@Frawt I don't see many people talking about it. I'm sorry if I'm beating a dead horse.
@@heythereguysitsMetro In the video on the very first pull they wiped. The warlock is being a hinder to the group as you pointed out clear as day. If keys don't deplete, they kick this guy and get a new guy and move on with their gaming experience. I feel like if you could re attempt a key like you could re attempt a raid boss by just refilling a resetting. None of these toxic player behaviors would be relevant, not that they wouldn't still happen. But like if we could just replace and keep it pushing this behavior wouldn't really matter. Maybe I'm just horribly wrong, I've been horribly wrong before.
No you are right, but the video isn't happening because they are upset about their key going down a level.
The guy literally tries to manipulate the group into blaming the group leader because he declined his alt.
That's way way more serious than anything related to disbands and depleted keys.
Since the banwave people are very reticent to act like this in my experience. Did some 8-10's usually get leavers people atayed for the 10 CoT and despite not timing finished and said gj after.
Ya, pretty scary that this fella likely knows about that banwave and still acts like this haha
Had a mage do this in a +10 seige. Just pulled extra trash for no reason.
He didnt even say anything.
Hmm well if you see it record it and send it in!
I think there are many kinds of toxic behaviour. I can’t remember it completely, but I think before BFA you could report people and sometimes you were lucky that a gm picked up your message, started a conversation and solved the issue. I know Blizzard doesn’t want to pay for that anymore, but I wouldn’t mind to be gm on a voluntarily basis and do that job. Clean the game up a little bit.
There have been so many issues in the past. Kicking people at the last percent of the last boss. Doing the dungeon on auto attack while watching tv on a second screen.
Hearing you talk I’m starting to wonder about certain experiences I had in the previous expansion. For example we had a very high geared warrior joining as tank. At the beginning we were like ‘WoW, we got lucky and an over geared tank joined’. But than he started to pull as if we were in the MDI and started to blame the rest for not keeping up and performing. He didn’t respond at all to questions about taking it more slowly. Based on your video I start to wonder if it was a similar situation. And this is just one example.
Well if you run into any new ones make sure you record it and send them in!
@@heythereguysitsMetro when I read your message, my first reaction was I don't want to go that way. I don't want to record the game to police other people. But the more I think of it, the more I think it is necessary.
The example I mentioned earlier about kicking somebody at the last percent of the last boss was also done by game friends of mine. Without context this sounds incredibly bad. But a part of me thinks that person had it coming. That person was toxic the whole run, pulling extra mobs, calling people blind and retarded and so on. Videos will help create context. Albeit that I do think the moral solution would be to not kick that person and report that person.
Another example is something I had lengthy discussion about with game friends. If you have a party of 5 with 1 or 2 random people and a friend comes online, you don't kick a random person to invite that friend. You start the dungeon, complete it and than play with that friend. At least that is my opinion. Also a situation videos could help it. But I'm not sure this example is against the policy. Which it should be (again) in my opinion.
I will never be able to fathom the stupidity about behaving like these people do. It's beyond me to even pay a sub to annoy others and waste your own time as well. Insanity
Ya, really crazy.
If tank was a giga bdk he would have survived the giga pull 😂 and see everyone spawn die for a minute xD
Haha idk about that tbh
I think Blizzard isn’t taking action, because this is way higher to do based on an algorithm. At least I think it is.
Harder to do you mean? Maybe. But we have video proof.
@@heythereguysitsMetro indeed harder.
@@heythereguysitsMetro my reaction was deleted by RUclips. Apparently reacting with 'indeed harder' isn't allowed.
I wish you good luck. Here in Europe I'm not sure video proof would really help. We don't have an EU customer service anymore. If we make a ticket these days we have to be lucky to get a respons at all.
in S1 of DF i was constantly declined from keys that i could heal (24s/25s) and after being declined by the same people time and time again, i decided that i would que into their key after they bricked it to a 23 (id literally watch the same people brick 25s and 24s down to 23 while sitting in LFG) and my plan was to hearth out immediately after the key started and laugh while doing it.
well, this never actually happened thankfully, i did make one attempt to do it BUT, even with a 24 timed, these people wouldnt even invite me to their 23s lol.
maybe they knew thats what i was going to do, maybe not. but im a title healer and being outright *declined* from keys that ive already timed easily was just absolutely tilting. we're talking fully geared, fully socketed main and a meta heals, btw. tf is wrong with people
@@jgro9 wild that you would type all this out willingly.
Im in a situation where i cant get into +13 keys and the m+ community is cringe af. My io is 2946, ive more 100 io more than literally the +13 party leaders, im playing Frost dk meta spec, i dont know whats going on and why the declines either. Alot of groups, are people who have already timed +13s, so im guessing, they want people that have completed +13 only? or they legit only want aug evokers? its crazy man, to legit not get a chance to play the game xD #Solomythicplusiscoming
You can always do your own key.
i like your videos, keep it up
I will.
I had a prot warrior intentionally not use mitigation and defensives just to make the healers life hell. He only used the bare minimum and let the healer do overtime. And another time I had a vengeance DH join a 8 NW to “practice” tanking after getting boosted in 10s as havoc. Since then I’ve alwayse looked up the tank bare minimum on raider io idc if you have 3k io if you queue my key as a prot pally and in your keys you were a ret pally you can get fucked
Gotcha
Most sane League player lmfao
haha
most league players use hp bar below their character.
Good job, Mr. Shaman. Detect a bunch of bullshit and bail right out. Own sanity trumps others' drama.
I certainly don't blame him for leaving. But still I thought it was funny how he doesn't say a word and the warrior is shocked he left hahaha
at 2:06 the warrior heroic throws to the next pack. that one at least looks like the tank meant to double the pull
he definitly wanted the whole room, I think the issue here is that the warlock pulled the next room too. There is 3 extra voidsouls that will aoe you to death.
Ya this is about the packs in the boss room.
I did want the 3 packs in the hallway yes. Even the second time without blooslust, it was an 8 Tyran so thought we would be fine
@@heythereguysitsMetro my mistake
The top 50 euw league comment explains everything
Haha
The toxicity is why I stopped playing.. took a break for all of dragonflight, now its worse.
Well to be fair this is extremely rare, thankfully. And it's fully avoidable. Just don't invite people who don't need the key for score. Or ya know, just don't pug.
First toxic hungarian warlock i've seen. Weird guy.
Oh ya, how do you know he is Hungarian?
@@heythereguysitsMetro In his profile (s)he speaks English and Magyar. Makes him/her Hungarian. Maybe Romanian, Croatian but pretty sure (s)he's Hungarian.
@peterpain6625 ah good catch!
Bring back name and shame.
Hate on vanilla but this shit never happened then. Your character's name was your reputation, you couldn't operate in pure anonymity. If you got labeled as a ninja looter or a bad player to group with that character was effectively dead in multiplayer scenarios.
That's what we are doing here haha
According to you though, based on previous replies to my comments..you would still expect people to stay in the group, even when I try to tell you lower keys are a shit show, but you know, the ones of us who leave keys like this are pieces of shit because we don't 'respect others time'.
See...not every key is worth staying in contrary to your opinion that all leavers should be penalized. You can't expect people to stay in keys like this, neither can Blizzard.
you serial leavers are STILL pissed about this? It's the gift that keeps on giving!
Keep the tears flowing!
how often does this exact scenario happen to you realistically? if you left a few keys a season due to some unhinged troll like this nobody would care, blizzard included.
:') am gonna share another game , toxic low game with u !! I'm pretty sure u love that stories since that u're own content !! not doing content from it so :p
Well , What could be funnier than help a friend in an atal dazar 10 , when u timed it in 26 ... :') ...
So , we got duble hunter comp , wich is not a good comp ... but it a 10 you see ... :') ... and ... the priest .... :')
So , I'm tanking downstair , like i usually do , i'm a main dh , have to hunter , if we kill i grip sygil , we got add on yazma , if we delay i stun sygil or a hunt trap ... A dh aura is ... not good for it right :') ?
So , The guy in 10 was teaching me that i had to tank upstairs to be able to greed more , then i explained to he the fact that u can trap etc , ( had two adds cc at end , was voc with the other hunt , it was my duo , so nothing was bad tho ^^" ) Annnnnnnnnnd , the hunt told me that i should be boosted , That i never reached higher than a 10 ( maybe no raider io available ) and that i had no place into a dungeon as a tank when i'm not able to tank a boss correctly :') :') :') ...
Then he just left the game :') ...
Gotta record those and send them in in the future!
"I am not arab lol
@@christopherlandaverde9397 ya wtf was that comment haha
he was refering his transmog. cuzz he was wearing white robe.
Metro in a Santa costume would go hard, just saying 😂
haha
Getting declined on an alt then joining on your main because it’s higher IO just to troll is wild. Hopefully this video gets around. What a loser
Ya it's really scummy.
And just like I predicted last year - this channel turned into a “stories of low mythic plus pugging” content
Holy hell bro, that's amazing of you. Can you also predict the amount of people that don't give a fuck but still enjoy the content? I'll eagerly be awaiting your results dude!
@@Templrz hahahaha
What can you predict more?
How do I know these players come from LoL
They admit it.
It is not the game, it the new players now...the only way to solve this problem is stop playing the game. Because they will never take their accounts sadly.
No, absolutely the opposite. Every time some one quits over this those bad actors become more and more the majority.
We have to stand up and not let this happen, one way or another.
dont do drugs kids.
ya
such shitty behavior.
That's right. Can't see how this isn't bannable.
@heythereguysitsmetro do u have a discord?
That warlock is greifer, but underlining thing is that people are way too impatient and this season you can’t pull insanely big wether it’s 2+ or 20+ regardless of the gear the party
Blizzard should see take majority of player base in term of their wants in term of behavior and adapt
Huh?
This type of behaviour where you have video footage needs to be mass reported and the troll deleted from the game. Does anyone know if Blizzard reacts to this?
Ya sadly I have talked to them about it and they said they can not take action based on video because it can be edited or falsified.
@@heythereguysitsMetro so, basically, that means whatever you report in-game goes to recycle bin since anyone can lie, obviously? Unfortunately, checks out. So sad, used to be the best company in the market.
Huh? No it means that it HAS to be done in game so they can see the chat logs and other stuff that can be messed with by the players.
@@heythereguysitsMetro well, I guess I misunderstand how it works, because how do you prove someone intentionally pulls packs to brick key? I'm not sure that's clear from chat at all, while on the other hand, it's quite visible in the video. What I mean, reporting in-game feels like much weaker evidence, hence my previous comment.
@@Ennar they can investigate that the person did in fact sign up to the previous key etc. Idk just how it works and what I have been told by them.
Game is toxic cuz Blizz made it that way. All wow is toxic due tot the fact that is ZERO new player friendly and everyone wants fast keys , in time keys which now are super hard . Game is bad design making people toxic.
No, this is way beyond anything the game would create. Did you even watch it?
Are you really blaming blizzard for some one attempting to manipulate a group into thinking the group leader is the one wiping them all for revenge from not inviting an alt to an 8?
I was in an other side +2 on my ok geared bdk. Saw a huge pal tank queue up. I get dropped. I’m fuming.
I get on my huge resto Druid queue up for same key. Get in.
I decide to protest go afk after hakkar thinking the run will be ruined. I suicide and release.
Prot pal tanks the whole thing while at same time healing the group while im watching from the entrance.
You know how double mad I was then?? Haha
Well deserved.
@@Massive-rat-hypocrite geez wild to admit that but it is a funny story.
@ it was my observation evoker moment ;)
A self-report like this is insane. You seem kinda schizo.
@Frawt you take this game and yourself too seriously 🤡
Typical EUW league of legends player. This guy just commits his time to ruining the time of others.
Haha ya right?
Permaban
Weirdest thing. You typed "permaban" and RUclips tells me I can translate that word automatically. I did, and it translated it to "gameplay."
Wtf lol
@@heythereguysitsMetro no RUclips, no more gameplay for this guy. But in all honesty, as much as I think what they did to Dilli last season is worse and everything, I can still see hope for those guys. I can see how someone can come back from that. For this guy, there is no hope. He should be banned from any multi player game
Ok mate i was with you until you started going about how this is "really scary behavior". Calm down it's just someone messing with people in a video game. This should be handled by the community, people should block him and put him on ignore list. You're doing the right thing in exposing this guy but jeez calm down.
True
For real lol dude acts like this guy is the next Ted Bundy for trolling a group in WOW 😂
@@maxwilltruck5074 he very well may be dude. Not sure how you can watch some one treat others like this and think it's not scary. Do you see people treat each other like this that often?
@@heythereguysitsMetro it’s pretty standard basement dwelling internet troll behavior. It’s not scary.. it’s both funny and sad.
@@maxwilltruck5074Ah yes, bro has cracked the code on human psychology. Nothing is "scary" and no behaviour has any implications for anything else. He's "just an internet troll and that's funny and sad lol".
God your single brain cell must feel so lonely in your skull.
Wtf lmao
Haha
that wl was crap sure . but some of this bad ppl who make the key and looking for carry while they suck big time must be punished as well . i never get mad at someone who get a player more geared and higher io than my alt instead of me . but they are alot of ppl out there that sitting on key wating for one dps for the whole 5minuts of my request and not geting any one while im the highest io with higher ilvl than all of them on my alt and litraly more than enough for that key lvl im aplying. those ppl must be punished hard , in that case im doing the same thing this lock did but like a man . not like pussy and puting it on someone else . ppl who are looking for free carry are as harmfull to the game as griefers . when i make my own key i never get any one with much higher ilvl or io than myself . unless when im playing healer .
@@peymanshakoori4284 k