If she just showed up around the bonfire whenever we rested and had different poses she cycled through, i'm 110% sure she would be the community's go to waifu instead of Ranni
It's crazy that Melina never really did anything with us besides talking about her Goal and History. She could have pointed out things when we ride beside it on Torrent or be a Summonable Ash like Teche but for the entire time and not just inspecific Areas. So much potential and it got wasted.
It would feel good if she actually popped up every time you sat down at one, regardless of whether you wanted to talk to her or not. This would make her presence be felt, and [SPOILER AHEAD] make her absence sting more when she leaves temporarily in Leyndell or permanently if you inherit the Frenzied Flame.
What part of mysterious and cryptic do guys not understand? I'm sure they made her like that by design, probably something we'd go deeper into in the dlcs. She already does talk to you, but idk what else she could say aside from filler/flavour talk. If you've played games like Skyrim, you'll know how tiring it gets eventually if she just babbled without prompt. Besides I really don't even know what stories she could tell when the girl has some sort of amnesia. The only thing she can tell you about is the Erdtree and Marika because clearly she has connections with those.
I wish she would be more like a traveling companion. Like she just accompanies us and gives us little bits of dialogue about the world and the people on it while we travel around, but when we engage in a battle she just disappears while wishing us luck. Would’ve been nice!
I’d love that if we were walking, then Melina would be riding Torrent alongside us, then if we were to hop on, then she’s sitting behind us. Or if she just showed up whenever we rested at a shrine if grace, which would make them seem emptier once she isn’t there anymore.
I also wouldn't mind her (and some other NPCs) being more persistent allies in the overworld like in Code:VEIN. I would love to have the option to hear her talk about the various places we travel to and bosses we face. You could absolutely balance her presence in various ways, like how your flasks are halved in multiplayer, or having it cost a Rune Arc in place of a Great Rune.
“Wishes us luck in battle” Melina:Oh is that Rykard you’re about to face? Good luck! Disappears with the peace sign✌️ Me: Wait! Help me! HELP ME! Aghhhhh!
Despite Melina having little to no inflection in her voice I still hoped when I was playing through the game the first time she would appear at every bonfire and was sadly disappointed when she wasn't
Since melina respect torrent, maybe she could be a Uber driver she will appear riding torrent when ever we summon torrent and the player will sit at the back, the player sit at the front after she's gone making it more impactful
the sad part is that she rarely appear to help you beside meeting you for the first time, giving torrent and disappear until i fight Morgott as i can summon her to fight with me which surprised me cuz i thought it was her clone but it is actually her herself
There are times at Marika's churches when you can make her tell you lore if you sit at the bonfire there. That's the only way to talk to her more I found so far
Would've been real nice to have her talk to or interact with us more throughout the journey. As it is, she's just like a pretty Christian girl, won't talk to you unless it's about churches or eternal burning.
Funniest part is if Melina was with us the whole journey it definitely would've made the game more interesting they should've takes the Code Vein route and have a partner system for Melina
Nah, the partner system made code game way too easy. Well if it was balanced a bit better maybe, but in code vein the fact that your partner could just raise you from the dead and tank a lot of damages...it was even better than a permanent mimic tear summon
@@jebhank1620 I agree with Jeb. Code Vein's partner system was just like Gold Summoning. Sure the extra person can help but they are still NPCs with an AI hellbent on getting them killed.
Yeah if was more involved with us through the whole story then it would be much harder to make a decision and more impactful choose between normal tarnished and frenzie tarnished
@@theonewayroad3867 yeah that's vyke. The only tarnished before us to get two great runes. And what was his end? We. We took his spear. His armour. And his eyes to hyetta so that she can feast
I honestly can't feel for her when she burned the erdtree and dissapears, i honestly thought this companionship what was missing and it's a damned shame bcuz she is really interesting, you can only talk to her in specific places and feel missed her alot most of the time in your journey, Hewg as a blacksmith feels more of a companion than her to his hostility towards us and acknowledge us as a lord in the end has more character and bond.
I’m kinda sad that she didn’t act more like the emerald herald in this game although I wouldn’t want the “seek, seek, bear, seek” dialogue to skip over every time.
You know the good thing about "bear seek seek lest"? At least you could quickly skip it. Unlike the stupid lines of the blacksmith in Elden Ring. I swear if they don't patch it soon so I can completely skip the "I took you for dead. No matter, take out your arms" shit I'm gonna lose it.
@@jeroenmul3991 Maybe. It could also be another bug because I swapped the "jump" and "interact" buttons. As a result every time I selected a dialogue option it would instantly skip the first line, though luckily they fixed that with an update.
Ngl, I wish we had more interactions with Melina. All she ever did was talk about history and her objectives. Even small gestures like suggestions or minor interactions like being amazed by scenery since she after all was just riding on our backs the whole journey til she inevitably did what she had to do.
She can help with the Morgott Boss as a summon. Shes basically a holy version of a Black Knife Assassin. I agree though. Should have came for more bosses or maybe some invasions you do with her.
Really sad that she got kind of left behind after we first meet her. She raerly appears and if she does it's always at a Grace. Ranni got all the Waifu Spotlight too thanks to her involved long Questline and NPCs.
Imagine having her as a summon just like the other spirits instead of one sign at one boss. Would be cool to see your "maiden" fighting alongside you more often.
@@heyfell4301 tiche is my true bitch, bro tiche is so fucking good as summom that she is my waifu, i summoned her, let her with godfrey, i got to bathroom and when i got back it alredy was in the cutscene
So I just finished my first playthrough, I save Melina by finding the three fringes. But I also did the Millicent quest line to get the God needle to tame the Frenzied Flame so I don’t kill torrent. And I also did ranni’s quest and made her moon queen. So I saved Melina, I feel like fromsoft should make the NPC a little more intricate, cuz no body reacts to you taming the FF. Like I think that’s the most important thing. You were on the verge of become Lord of FF and you don’t cuz you go to time vortex to use the needle. There should be little more reward for doing all that and saving Melina.
Imagine if Melina had been used in a similar way to how Io was in Code Vein where you could have them travel as a sort of companion and help you fight if you wanted to. I could imagine her commenting on certain events like fighting Radahn or meeting Ranni and getting the chance to bond with the character. That way when [REDACTED] happens, it means more to the player overall.
I know she has dialogue in all of the churches (among other places) but they should've made Melina appear when you activated a grace she has dialogue at. Most of the time I activate like 10 graces in between resting, skipping a mountain of dialogue because the Cerullian beetles give more than enough refills to sustain you.
can we have a DLC where we just pull this woman into a hug the moment she's about to...you know...and save her and find another way to burn the damn tree without loosing your already rock bottom sanity to three fingies? But then again, knowing how much of a masochist miyazaki is, i doubt we'd get it. Prolly enjoys the suffering and pain he's feeling
The fact that you only talk to her like 5-6 times really was disappointing. She really could have been a traveling companion giving lore when asked at graces, little bits of dialogue here and there or maybe the odd item she picked up. Make her feel like a companion rather than someone you forget about for most the game. Despite her being a big part of it
I honestly wished she showed up more cause with her giving us the ability to lvl up I figured she'd at least appear each time we level. Plus if she appeared at each site of grace with some kind of interaction such as giving tips about nearby enemies/lore it would've made her death matter more for me. As it is in game I didn't really care about her when she died making her death fall flat.
I do wish that I could have that little journey with Melina, it'd have been awesome to have her on the journey with me. instead of just... having her pop up seemingly randomly in a literal puff of glitter and smoke.
And this is why I still stand by the notion, that Code Vein has some of the best ideas in a souls game. The addition of a companion NPC that can help you fight, and even somewhat keep you from dying, may make the game... trigger warning for hardcores, *esier*, but it also just makes the game more engaging and endearing. I care a little more about playing it because I like the experince of exploring hostile worlds alongside a friend group.
I liked Code Vein alot, but it had alot of issues with trying to tie the lore in with God Eater and the fact it seemed to have inconsistencies in writing and dialogue. The fact that alot of NPCs are named based on their personality is a big example. Like who could forget about Arrogant Revenant? Idk I liked the games story and system, but it seemed like the devs didn't expect it to be relevent as it became. The partner system definitely was the best part, and the game has untapped potential if it get sort out its in universe lore. Elden Ring they really only missed out on Melina's Character, but it makes sense since most of the maidens they have written before like the Emerald Herald and DS3 Fire Keeper have always been stoic, and almosy emotionless with minor plot relevance and mainly only towards the end of the game. They existed mainly just to tell the player where to go next and level them up well giving some vague monologue. They went the same route with Melina then realized how pointless that is with how Elden Ring is built primarily around exploring and the Grace lines. Idk they tried to pull the concept of Oscar in DS1 that was scrapped with Melina? Someone who journeys along the same path as you but always shifts to the other side to act as a mirror? Idk Melina is a complicated character as if you don't have alot of the information that is very easy to miss then its hard to justify her actions as more than just being an asshole.
@@francisharkins I'm not saying code vein was a better *game*, I'm saying it has better *ideas.* Companion NPC's, equipable builds, and the ability to recover half of your lost souls at no risk, but forever losing the other half, are in my opinion improvements on the system, better engaging the player and eliminating a lot of the *frustration* of the souls formula. Could those ideas be better executed, in a better game? Absolutely. Is Elden Ring trash, because it's basically another souls game with the same arbitrary system with a handful of new mechanics? No. I just wish the souls formula could improve by more then a half-step each game, and seeing worthwhile improvements in a weird god eater Spinoff makes me a little sad.
@@ivaniawren5014 Both games have pros and cons. I think the only thing that I really disliked about Code Vein was the world building was a little in the don't question it variety. Especially when recovering your characters blood code and not having any different impacts on the story besides world building and the lack of conflict between the player and thosw who know the truth. Its Complicated but just like Souls its not handed to you, you have to come to your own speculations. Loved Code Veins gameplay and system though, it flows better. Though to be fair Elden Ring can be both overly forgiving and cruel. Cruel with the placement of that one Rune Bear and Falling Star Beast. (Because big bosses in a small arena that take up 1/3 of the arena alone and have massive aoe attacks was totally not maliciously intended) Then forgiving with the fact 90% of AI barely take advantage of when they Guard Break the player.
@@francisharkins That's roecisely my point with the "is this game better? is this game garbage" bit, they are both fine experinces. I just with Elden Ring was more of a derparture, there's still so much about this game, that is that way because of demon's souls, all these years later. Elden Ring has new elements, like the wonderous physik and the horse, that are absoultely new improvements to the format, worth having. There's just a reason people call it Dark Souls 4. It's still so dug into the series's antiquated systems. Why does the multiplayer still have to be based around beating a boss, and why does the design despite being open, still hinge so much on the idea that only a boss is interesting? The predictability of the boss at the end of every area, the forced difficulty of the damage and health bosses have, the "open world" that's just a series of dark souls worlds plopped into one map with somewhat more optional content, it all feels like a *half* step. And the fact that years ago an unrelated compay made a souls-like that imrpoves the formula so well, which will likely never get another sequel, and it's ideas died with it, when there's already systems and elements *in* elden ring that feel like they could have used it? It's not just melina. There's rogier, there's that barbarian woman, adopted daughter of the roundtable hold's host, even alexander the jar or D. So many people that *could have easily* been companion characters you could travel alongside, even without the healing mechanics present in Code Vein, that would have helped the immersion, and since this game is so *big* and the bosses hit so *hard* it hardly would have been seen as hurting the game's difficulty. If anything, it would have encuredged more people to not summon.
Half of Gideons dialogue about the lords could be given from Melina everytime we enter a new lords lands, "Caelid, it is said that General Radahn still wanders hes final battlefield, he was known as the mightiest of the demigods... He will prove challenging" or something "That on the horizon... Raya Lucaria Renalla is rules over the academy and land as Queen" Just bits that you could get with a "talk" option would be nice, I find it a bit anoying that the few times she showed up to share "wisdom" I was missing like 1k runes lvl up and leaving to crack a rune and then tried to lvl up she no longer showed up... Thats why I chose Ranni, at least shes there even when shes sleeping
I’m really hoping for DLC where we visit past fromsoftware locations reimagined in an open world setting, where we can team up with old pals like Onion Lad, Tarkus, Solaire, etc. fight old bosses like Sif, Ornstein and Smogh, Artorias (maybe even get to save him), etc. ether that or at the very least give us armor and weapons from the past games. Or they could give us some fight clubs where we have to earn past gear by fighting old bosses, I’d be down for that too. Look as someone who made a build back in Dark Souls 1 that involved using Black Iron Tarkus armor (and the Grass Crest Shield) I just want his armor back (and the grass crest shield) so I can have my build (as long as they buff it as the Dark Souls 3 version of it sucked so much)
Cough cough, Just gonna put it out there... I'd say DS1 is REAL close to Open World, as you can do fun shenanigans like using the New Londo door to get to the Valley, then to Darkroot, then to Parish without even touching Undead Burg. It's why I love the game so much. Sure, a fair bit of story is locked until you get the Bells rung, then you grab the Lordvessel, but you're locked out of Leyndell, Mountaintops, Haligtree, and Farum Azula until you nab two Great Runes in Elden Ring, so I'd say they're roughly equal like that. In any case, modding sounds more up your alleyway. Someone could probably find a way to port DS1 maps into ER's game world and it not be too hard. We've already got people porting in old armor sets from previous games, so it's likely that if you really wanted it, you could learn to mod yourself or pay somebody to make a mod like that. Or, befriend them and just get them to do it because it'd be an awesome passion project. Look into it! Maybe you'll find a hobby in it, or make a friend, maybe both, or maybe you won't get anywhere. But that's a great idea, hope it gets something out of it.
@@KaroxNightshade I know that DS1 is basically open world (and I agree) I just want some of the older armor sets and weapons in Elden Ring so I can PvP with it, as DS1 Remastered is a dead game, and a lot of stuff that was brought from DS1 into DS3 (a game that isn’t dead yet) was heavily nerfed, like my favorite Black Iron Tarkus Armor, and my favorite weapon of all time the Demon GreatAxe (love that thing so much and they ruined it in DS3 by making it a pyromancy weapon) Though as you mentioned with modding being the likely path I should take, will I get banned for modding in weapons and armor? Keep in mind I’ll stick to Offline mode as I know even if I’m not cheating FromSoftware really don’t like people modding there games while online. Even though I think that’s dumb as I think it would be really cool to co-op with a good friend of mine, him rocking Giant dad build (if mods for that exist) and me rocking the Iron Tarkus Armor
Armor sets and weapons from older games would be great but i'd rather have actual new bosses, fromsoftware usually makes some incredible dlc bosses and i wouldn't want them to be bosses that already exists
I felt like a had a closer connexion with Millicent's journey than Melina's. I hope for a next game, From tries their had at making one where story NPCs are more involved in gameplay. Melina just being a voice in your head giving exposition on some areas, or random commentary on some landmarks or enemy types when you pass them by, would have been cool.
I don’t like how they don’t return to you if you save them by using the frenzied flame to burn the tree and then use the super needle to expunge it from your body. I want a happy ending :(
I’m really disappointed in how little Melina was integrated into the game. They could have at least had her show up whenever you want to level up, or just sit there when you rest at a site of grace. She’s one of the few people who stick with you throughout most of your journey, and is completely loyal. They couldn’t even give us a companion to give us some sense of comfort in a world where everything wants to fucking kill us. The story definitely tells us that we’re supposed to be sad after specific events, but I barely felt anything.
Having Melina as a always available summon in dungeons and bosses would of been a great way to show she's very much with you. I'd gladly pass my spirit summons for Melina
What if instead of just showing up a handful of times at some specific locations she just Traveled with us, we summon and ride on Torrent shes hops on the spot behind us telling us about lore and stuff, when we engage in fistacuffs she teleports away, when at the roundtable she follows us add some extra dialogue, we rest at grace she joins giving us tips on what to do, that way when she is *spoiler* it feels empty and alone.
It could have been that she appeared on sites of grace when certain conditions were met Be it npc quests or just exploring the man First time fighting skeletons in the catacombs? She tells you they need to be killed twice or something
Also considering that sites of grace appear in every boss arena after defeating a boss, it would be nice if she could show up and congratulate you for your victory or give you some lore about the boss you just defeated.
I really wish Melina was used more, appearing at the grace every time and be freely conversed with. People forget that “technically” you’re taking her with you and she’s there almost every step of the journey.
She could have been a companion like Atreus in God of War 4, some extra damage without affecting the gameplay all that much. She'd be a lot more involved that way, they could have expanded her way more, maybe even an ending for her.
If she just showed up around the bonfire whenever we rested and had different poses she cycled through, i'm 110% sure she would be the community's go to waifu instead of Ranni
It's crazy that Melina never really did anything with us besides talking about her Goal and History. She could have pointed out things when we ride beside it on Torrent or be a Summonable Ash like Teche but for the entire time and not just inspecific Areas. So much potential and it got wasted.
Ranni killed an avatar of the Greater Will, alone. Damn right she's going to be the waifu.
the fact that y'all just see them as "waifus" is why you'll never understand their actual stories or motivations
@@094176 Son...I literally married Ranni (In-game) she's Waifu, because FUCK the greater will.
@@094176 waifuless cur ahead
try touching grace
i wish we could summon her at a grace almost any time, not for anything important she would just tell some lore, stories and give tips
It would feel good if she actually popped up every time you sat down at one, regardless of whether you wanted to talk to her or not. This would make her presence be felt, and [SPOILER AHEAD] make her absence sting more when she leaves temporarily in Leyndell or permanently if you inherit the Frenzied Flame.
Someone will mod that in eventually.
@@zatoby6705 Yup 😁
Yeah always found it dumb that she basically never appears. Although she is granting you the power of runes as you can level up without her.
What part of mysterious and cryptic do guys not understand? I'm sure they made her like that by design, probably something we'd go deeper into in the dlcs. She already does talk to you, but idk what else she could say aside from filler/flavour talk. If you've played games like Skyrim, you'll know how tiring it gets eventually if she just babbled without prompt. Besides I really don't even know what stories she could tell when the girl has some sort of amnesia. The only thing she can tell you about is the Erdtree and Marika because clearly she has connections with those.
I wish she would be more like a traveling companion. Like she just accompanies us and gives us little bits of dialogue about the world and the people on it while we travel around, but when we engage in a battle she just disappears while wishing us luck.
Would’ve been nice!
I’d love that if we were walking, then Melina would be riding Torrent alongside us, then if we were to hop on, then she’s sitting behind us.
Or if she just showed up whenever we rested at a shrine if grace, which would make them seem emptier once she isn’t there anymore.
@@MalachiLper maybe have some overworld bosses that she stays for if it made sense with her story, like in leyndell.
We see more of Ranni than we do of Melina and Ranni is a literal doll.
I also wouldn't mind her (and some other NPCs) being more persistent allies in the overworld like in Code:VEIN. I would love to have the option to hear her talk about the various places we travel to and bosses we face. You could absolutely balance her presence in various ways, like how your flasks are halved in multiplayer, or having it cost a Rune Arc in place of a Great Rune.
“Wishes us luck in battle”
Melina:Oh is that Rykard you’re about to face? Good luck!
Disappears with the peace sign✌️
Me: Wait! Help me! HELP ME! Aghhhhh!
I kinda wish FromSoft made Melina more involved in our adventure so when the moment she had to... it was more impactful.
Fax
Shes only shows up on marika churches
And also in the Minor Erdtree Church.
@@KABLAMMATS she can be summoned to fight alongside us against Leyndel's boss
@@KABLAMMATS she also gives us hint to complete Boc's questline with the best ending possible
Melina: "You want some skull candy?"
Tarnished: "That's... not... candy."
'if it's crunchy and sweet, it qualifies as candy'
Melina: "Did I stutter?"
Fuck it, I'll take some skull candy
… This Is the one time I actually want an escort section in a video game
Despite Melina having little to no inflection in her voice I still hoped when I was playing through the game the first time she would appear at every bonfire and was sadly disappointed when she wasn't
this mf thinking about a whole different type of escorts smh
bruh she could be escorting you have you seen her fight?
@@Aconspiracyofravens1 Melina can "Escort" me anytime *wink*
The game IS the escort section up to Farum Azula
It probably would have been nice to have Melina play a more active role in Elden Ring, like having her be our companion or something
Are we clones?
Unfortunately, we are maidenless
Our only companions are the weird talking heads
It would? Tf it WILL been nice, they f it up.
I wish Melina randomly help us against open world boss from time to time, making her more involved with us
Since melina respect torrent, maybe she could be a Uber driver she will appear riding torrent when ever we summon torrent and the player will sit at the back, the player sit at the front after she's gone making it more impactful
Or just have her always appear when we sit at campfires, not just when she has something to say.
@@MrFelblood yeah, i didn't include it in my post bcs that's just natural. Idk why Fromsoft didn't implement that
You can summon her to help fight the guy at the capital at the base of the erdtree
@@linglongpagota6195 i know, i want more (like Solaire in DS)
Melina when player reaches the Erd Tree: "Bye, have a beautiful time!.."
Melina... I have seen you exactly two times before this point. For all I know you were gone the whole time.
Melina when player reaches the Erd Tree: "Try finger, but whole."
the sad part is that she rarely appear to help you beside meeting you for the first time, giving torrent and disappear until i fight Morgott as i can summon her to fight with me which surprised me cuz i thought it was her clone but it is actually her herself
There are times at Marika's churches when you can make her tell you lore if you sit at the bonfire there. That's the only way to talk to her more I found so far
Yeah my playthrough i didnt see her for 40-50something hours after the initial encounter
I felt really bummed when I got to the First Church of Marika, but I had already done the thing that makes her angry, so there was no story time.
@@BMXR0 not if you inherit the frenzied flame >:)
...not that you would do that, right?
@@regularname1825 "Please, not the Frenzied Flame..."
*IT'S TIME TO GO CRAZY*
Would've been real nice to have her talk to or interact with us more throughout the journey. As it is, she's just like a pretty Christian girl, won't talk to you unless it's about churches or eternal burning.
LMAO
bruhhhhhh ☠
Hot
Funniest part is if Melina was with us the whole journey it definitely would've made the game more interesting they should've takes the Code Vein route and have a partner system for Melina
Nah, the partner system made code game way too easy.
Well if it was balanced a bit better maybe, but in code vein the fact that your partner could just raise you from the dead and tank a lot of damages...it was even better than a permanent mimic tear summon
Highly disagree
oh hell yes i wish it did too
@@jebhank1620 I agree with Jeb. Code Vein's partner system was just like Gold Summoning. Sure the extra person can help but they are still NPCs with an AI hellbent on getting them killed.
@@naproupi dude,you there was a option to not take them along if you didn't want to you know.
I mean. It wouldn't be a bad idea to involve her more. That would help to feel the changen between the normal tarnished and frenzied tarnished
Yeah if was more involved with us through the whole story then it would be much harder to make a decision and more impactful choose between normal tarnished and frenzie tarnished
Yeah but considering what happened to the last Tarnished that was to close to his maiden...... yeah......
@@theonewayroad3867 you kill him and takes his eyes so some wandering nun can eat then?
@@xaga8794 no.... he didn't want his to sacrifice his maiden so he went in search of an alternative, The Frenzied Flame.
@@theonewayroad3867 yeah that's vyke. The only tarnished before us to get two great runes. And what was his end? We. We took his spear. His armour. And his eyes to hyetta so that she can feast
I honestly can't feel for her when she burned the erdtree and dissapears, i honestly thought this companionship what was missing and it's a damned shame bcuz she is really interesting, you can only talk to her in specific places and feel missed her alot most of the time in your journey, Hewg as a blacksmith feels more of a companion than her to his hostility towards us and acknowledge us as a lord in the end has more character and bond.
My reaction was just: "Well.......that sucks. Anyway! About that Ranni Quest I heard about..."
hopefully a dlc can fix that man...
I feel closer to Tiche than Melina, they really shoulda made her more involved in the gameplay aspect
Same dude! Only my preferred summon was Mimic Tear, so I was much closer... uh... to myself?
@@JayTDemi you know what they say, the most important thing is self love
@@JayTDemi "Weak foe ahead, therefore time for introspection"
us tarnished: we want a companion at least!
FromSoft: nah, remain maidenless, while we're at it, let's have Varren remind you of that constantly.
I’m kinda sad that she didn’t act more like the emerald herald in this game although I wouldn’t want the “seek, seek, bear, seek” dialogue to skip over every time.
Bear seek seek lest
Let these souls withdraw from their vessels, manifestations of disparity...
shit wrong game
You know the good thing about "bear seek seek lest"? At least you could quickly skip it. Unlike the stupid lines of the blacksmith in Elden Ring. I swear if they don't patch it soon so I can completely skip the "I took you for dead. No matter, take out your arms" shit I'm gonna lose it.
@@SaHaRaSquad weird, maybe it's a console thing? Because I play on pc and I can skip.
@@jeroenmul3991 Maybe. It could also be another bug because I swapped the "jump" and "interact" buttons.
As a result every time I selected a dialogue option it would instantly skip the first line, though luckily they fixed that with an update.
Ngl, I wish we had more interactions with Melina. All she ever did was talk about history and her objectives. Even small gestures like suggestions or minor interactions like being amazed by scenery since she after all was just riding on our backs the whole journey til she inevitably did what she had to do.
She can help with the Morgott Boss as a summon. Shes basically a holy version of a Black Knife Assassin. I agree though. Should have came for more bosses or maybe some invasions you do with her.
There was a cut interaction with her introducing herself to your mimc tear, who originally had a personality and a quest behind it.
@@thebigenchilada678 Sick
@@RustedBuddy5192 no not sick, it’ll never be in the game and I hate it.
@@thebigenchilada678 nAh i MEanT IT mAkEs mE SiCk.
dANg oL CObiD vArUS
Really sad that she got kind of left behind after we first meet her. She raerly appears and if she does it's always at a Grace. Ranni got all the Waifu Spotlight too thanks to her involved long Questline and NPCs.
Plus when she does appear at a site of grace, it’s most often to echo the words of Queen Marika.
Ahh yes, fromsoft making characters seem so relevant yet rarely present through out the entire story. Classic.
Running naked past enemies in a high level area just to get better loot has never failed me and definitely won’t fail me this time! Definitely
Fool, you should be wearing red armor. It’s scientifically proven that wearing the color red makes you 3x faster.
: )
fool i were running in a different shirt
it got me to the Caelid divine tower at level 26 so it has to work for some people.
Damn it, I want Melina as a spirit summon now
Easy way to get her as one would be at the end of her quest line
That would just be Black Knaifu Teche but better
Imagine you invade someone and they just pretty much summon a boss on your ass.
@@cookieoppressor9700
Basically Caelid Coliseum.
*Unlikely pair ahead*
Sounds like a message you would find near Gwynevere in dark souls 1
wholesome level: 100
Imagine having her as a summon just like the other spirits instead of one sign at one boss. Would be cool to see your "maiden" fighting alongside you more often.
*walks toward varre, summons melina*
you keep saying i have no bitches, BUT WHERE ARE YOURS? WHERE ARE THEY? I CANT SEE THEY
@@saragossid.aschenberg7992 you have no bitches because Melina is too perfect to be considered one.
@@heyfell4301 tiche is my true bitch, bro tiche is so fucking good as summom that she is my waifu, i summoned her, let her with godfrey, i got to bathroom and when i got back it alredy was in the cutscene
@@saragossid.aschenberg7992 that's a really good point, not gonna lie.
So I just finished my first playthrough, I save Melina by finding the three fringes. But I also did the Millicent quest line to get the God needle to tame the Frenzied Flame so I don’t kill torrent.
And I also did ranni’s quest and made her moon queen.
So I saved Melina, I feel like fromsoft should make the NPC a little more intricate, cuz no body reacts to you taming the FF. Like I think that’s the most important thing. You were on the verge of become Lord of FF and you don’t cuz you go to time vortex to use the needle.
There should be little more reward for doing all that and saving Melina.
And by saving melina you remove her purpose and her whole reason for being alive.
@@kirito_jesus-kun6852 her purpose is to be wifu. Why can you just make her your destined death maiden.
Maiden of Destined Death ending
Imagine if Melina had been used in a similar way to how Io was in Code Vein where you could have them travel as a sort of companion and help you fight if you wanted to. I could imagine her commenting on certain events like fighting Radahn or meeting Ranni and getting the chance to bond with the character. That way when [REDACTED] happens, it means more to the player overall.
The Melina we never got... :(
I know she has dialogue in all of the churches (among other places) but they should've made Melina appear when you activated a grace she has dialogue at. Most of the time I activate like 10 graces in between resting, skipping a mountain of dialogue because the Cerullian beetles give more than enough refills to sustain you.
0:19 if only melina was this useful in-game
Gods, imagine you could summon her like you do later in the game to help you normally. Would make her an even better travel companion
We did it boys, we're no longer maidenless.
That's such a cute artstyle, the Tarnished and especially Melina look so adorable in this.
honestly, if melina was like this, then maybe i wouldn’t have become the lord of frenzied flame just to hear some fucking emotion out of her
can we have a DLC where we just pull this woman into a hug the moment she's about to...you know...and save her and find another way to burn the damn tree without loosing your already rock bottom sanity to three fingies?
But then again, knowing how much of a masochist miyazaki is, i doubt we'd get it. Prolly enjoys the suffering and pain he's feeling
The fact that you only talk to her like 5-6 times really was disappointing. She really could have been a traveling companion giving lore when asked at graces, little bits of dialogue here and there or maybe the odd item she picked up.
Make her feel like a companion rather than someone you forget about for most the game. Despite her being a big part of it
This is the cutest shit ever please make more.
Look at Boc man, so inspirational.
I honestly wished she showed up more cause with her giving us the ability to lvl up I figured she'd at least appear each time we level. Plus if she appeared at each site of grace with some kind of interaction such as giving tips about nearby enemies/lore it would've made her death matter more for me.
As it is in game I didn't really care about her when she died making her death fall flat.
She really shouldve showed up more, like maybe she would sit on the back of torrent sometimes, or show up at every bonfire and just sat different ways
I do wish that I could have that little journey with Melina, it'd have been awesome to have her on the journey with me. instead of just... having her pop up seemingly randomly in a literal puff of glitter and smoke.
And this is why I still stand by the notion, that Code Vein has some of the best ideas in a souls game.
The addition of a companion NPC that can help you fight, and even somewhat keep you from dying, may make the game... trigger warning for hardcores, *esier*, but it also just makes the game more engaging and endearing. I care a little more about playing it because I like the experince of exploring hostile worlds alongside a friend group.
I liked Code Vein alot, but it had alot of issues with trying to tie the lore in with God Eater and the fact it seemed to have inconsistencies in writing and dialogue. The fact that alot of NPCs are named based on their personality is a big example. Like who could forget about Arrogant Revenant? Idk I liked the games story and system, but it seemed like the devs didn't expect it to be relevent as it became.
The partner system definitely was the best part, and the game has untapped potential if it get sort out its in universe lore.
Elden Ring they really only missed out on Melina's Character, but it makes sense since most of the maidens they have written before like the Emerald Herald and DS3 Fire Keeper have always been stoic, and almosy emotionless with minor plot relevance and mainly only towards the end of the game. They existed mainly just to tell the player where to go next and level them up well giving some vague monologue. They went the same route with Melina then realized how pointless that is with how Elden Ring is built primarily around exploring and the Grace lines.
Idk they tried to pull the concept of Oscar in DS1 that was scrapped with Melina? Someone who journeys along the same path as you but always shifts to the other side to act as a mirror?
Idk Melina is a complicated character as if you don't have alot of the information that is very easy to miss then its hard to justify her actions as more than just being an asshole.
@@francisharkins I'm not saying code vein was a better *game*, I'm saying it has better *ideas.* Companion NPC's, equipable builds, and the ability to recover half of your lost souls at no risk, but forever losing the other half, are in my opinion improvements on the system, better engaging the player and eliminating a lot of the *frustration* of the souls formula.
Could those ideas be better executed, in a better game? Absolutely. Is Elden Ring trash, because it's basically another souls game with the same arbitrary system with a handful of new mechanics? No.
I just wish the souls formula could improve by more then a half-step each game, and seeing worthwhile improvements in a weird god eater Spinoff makes me a little sad.
@@ivaniawren5014 Both games have pros and cons. I think the only thing that I really disliked about Code Vein was the world building was a little in the don't question it variety. Especially when recovering your characters blood code and not having any different impacts on the story besides world building and the lack of conflict between the player and thosw who know the truth.
Its Complicated but just like Souls its not handed to you, you have to come to your own speculations. Loved Code Veins gameplay and system though, it flows better. Though to be fair Elden Ring can be both overly forgiving and cruel. Cruel with the placement of that one Rune Bear and Falling Star Beast. (Because big bosses in a small arena that take up 1/3 of the arena alone and have massive aoe attacks was totally not maliciously intended) Then forgiving with the fact 90% of AI barely take advantage of when they Guard Break the player.
@@francisharkins That's roecisely my point with the "is this game better? is this game garbage" bit, they are both fine experinces.
I just with Elden Ring was more of a derparture, there's still so much about this game, that is that way because of demon's souls, all these years later. Elden Ring has new elements, like the wonderous physik and the horse, that are absoultely new improvements to the format, worth having.
There's just a reason people call it Dark Souls 4. It's still so dug into the series's antiquated systems. Why does the multiplayer still have to be based around beating a boss, and why does the design despite being open, still hinge so much on the idea that only a boss is interesting? The predictability of the boss at the end of every area, the forced difficulty of the damage and health bosses have, the "open world" that's just a series of dark souls worlds plopped into one map with somewhat more optional content, it all feels like a *half* step.
And the fact that years ago an unrelated compay made a souls-like that imrpoves the formula so well, which will likely never get another sequel, and it's ideas died with it, when there's already systems and elements *in* elden ring that feel like they could have used it?
It's not just melina. There's rogier, there's that barbarian woman, adopted daughter of the roundtable hold's host, even alexander the jar or D. So many people that *could have easily* been companion characters you could travel alongside, even without the healing mechanics present in Code Vein, that would have helped the immersion, and since this game is so *big* and the bosses hit so *hard* it hardly would have been seen as hurting the game's difficulty. If anything, it would have encuredged more people to not summon.
@@francisharkins Remember that one scene Yakumo just pulls out a Deagle and then it is just never used or addressed ever again?
Damn, kind of wished they made her a spirit summon... she could have easily been
I know right?!
She's so cute in this art style with that voice.
She has an amazing voice. Love the artwork!
I liket the ranking of kings ost, suits it really well
Melina is like my dad. She rarely stops by to say hi ;_;
they coulda put her behind us on torrent whenever we summon him and share bits of dialogue
Boc and the Tarnished both being like "Oh sweet fuck"
Half of Gideons dialogue about the lords could be given from Melina everytime we enter a new lords lands, "Caelid, it is said that General Radahn still wanders hes final battlefield, he was known as the mightiest of the demigods... He will prove challenging" or something
"That on the horizon... Raya Lucaria Renalla is rules over the academy and land as Queen"
Just bits that you could get with a "talk" option would be nice, I find it a bit anoying that the few times she showed up to share "wisdom" I was missing like 1k runes lvl up and leaving to crack a rune and then tried to lvl up she no longer showed up... Thats why I chose Ranni, at least shes there even when shes sleeping
I’m really hoping for DLC where we visit past fromsoftware locations reimagined in an open world setting, where we can team up with old pals like Onion Lad, Tarkus, Solaire, etc. fight old bosses like Sif, Ornstein and Smogh, Artorias (maybe even get to save him), etc. ether that or at the very least give us armor and weapons from the past games. Or they could give us some fight clubs where we have to earn past gear by fighting old bosses, I’d be down for that too.
Look as someone who made a build back in Dark Souls 1 that involved using Black Iron Tarkus armor (and the Grass Crest Shield) I just want his armor back (and the grass crest shield) so I can have my build (as long as they buff it as the Dark Souls 3 version of it sucked so much)
As cool as that will be I do doubt it will happen. Fromsoft in their eyes have concluded dark souls so they probs wont be revisiting it
Cough cough, Just gonna put it out there... I'd say DS1 is REAL close to Open World, as you can do fun shenanigans like using the New Londo door to get to the Valley, then to Darkroot, then to Parish without even touching Undead Burg. It's why I love the game so much. Sure, a fair bit of story is locked until you get the Bells rung, then you grab the Lordvessel, but you're locked out of Leyndell, Mountaintops, Haligtree, and Farum Azula until you nab two Great Runes in Elden Ring, so I'd say they're roughly equal like that. In any case, modding sounds more up your alleyway. Someone could probably find a way to port DS1 maps into ER's game world and it not be too hard. We've already got people porting in old armor sets from previous games, so it's likely that if you really wanted it, you could learn to mod yourself or pay somebody to make a mod like that. Or, befriend them and just get them to do it because it'd be an awesome passion project. Look into it! Maybe you'll find a hobby in it, or make a friend, maybe both, or maybe you won't get anywhere. But that's a great idea, hope it gets something out of it.
@@KaroxNightshade I know that DS1 is basically open world (and I agree) I just want some of the older armor sets and weapons in Elden Ring so I can PvP with it, as DS1 Remastered is a dead game, and a lot of stuff that was brought from DS1 into DS3 (a game that isn’t dead yet) was heavily nerfed, like my favorite Black Iron Tarkus Armor, and my favorite weapon of all time the Demon GreatAxe (love that thing so much and they ruined it in DS3 by making it a pyromancy weapon)
Though as you mentioned with modding being the likely path I should take, will I get banned for modding in weapons and armor? Keep in mind I’ll stick to Offline mode as I know even if I’m not cheating FromSoftware really don’t like people modding there games while online. Even though I think that’s dumb as I think it would be really cool to co-op with a good friend of mine, him rocking Giant dad build (if mods for that exist) and me rocking the Iron Tarkus Armor
Armor sets and weapons from older games would be great but i'd rather have actual new bosses, fromsoftware usually makes some incredible dlc bosses and i wouldn't want them to be bosses that already exists
Tbh to me it's looking like the dlc will make frenzied fire the "true" ending with Malena as the final boss.
I need more Melina x Tarnished comics. These are so damn cute.
0:35 YO?! BOC THE DEMI HUMAN? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? Also, great work at your steamstressing. I don’t know what I would do without you.
I felt like a had a closer connexion with Millicent's journey than Melina's. I hope for a next game, From tries their had at making one where story NPCs are more involved in gameplay. Melina just being a voice in your head giving exposition on some areas, or random commentary on some landmarks or enemy types when you pass them by, would have been cool.
I don’t like how they don’t return to you if you save them by using the frenzied flame to burn the tree and then use the super needle to expunge it from your body. I want a happy ending :(
I wish Melina was like Atreus from god of war it will be nice to have her so I will not feel maidenless or alone when I'm exploring
See, now I want to write a fanfic about The Besties (My Insane Bug Sorceress character, Melina, and Boc) adventuring throughout The Lands Between.
lmao, boc in the corner of the last panel
My maiden cant be this cute
I’m really disappointed in how little Melina was integrated into the game. They could have at least had her show up whenever you want to level up, or just sit there when you rest at a site of grace. She’s one of the few people who stick with you throughout most of your journey, and is completely loyal. They couldn’t even give us a companion to give us some sense of comfort in a world where everything wants to fucking kill us. The story definitely tells us that we’re supposed to be sad after specific events, but I barely felt anything.
Ya know, Melina should’ve been a Spirit Bell Summon.
Having Melina as a always available summon in dungeons and bosses would of been a great way to show she's very much with you. I'd gladly pass my spirit summons for Melina
I wish she was this helpful it would make you care more about her and the game
Bro even hit us with that hollow knight upgrade scene
"Ok so shes gonna be with the player at all times"
"So shes gonna be on screen a lot right?"
That was adorable, thank you for this
Have to comment so that it's not at the devil's number
What if instead of just showing up a handful of times at some specific locations she just Traveled with us, we summon and ride on Torrent shes hops on the spot behind us telling us about lore and stuff, when we engage in fistacuffs she teleports away, when at the roundtable she follows us add some extra dialogue, we rest at grace she joins giving us tips on what to do, that way when she is *spoiler* it feels empty and alone.
is that ranking of kings soundtrack? I miss that show so much
Melina: _"Thank you for guiding me here to the Erdtree."_
Me: _"Who are you again?"_
Can we get a Melina ASMR? Her telling us that were not maidenless 🥺🥺🥺
can we?
Just, her sitting side saddle on the back of torrent, occasionally saying, well anything, would have been nice.
It could have been that she appeared on sites of grace when certain conditions were met
Be it npc quests or just exploring the man
First time fighting skeletons in the catacombs? She tells you they need to be killed twice or something
Also considering that sites of grace appear in every boss arena after defeating a boss, it would be nice if she could show up and congratulate you for your victory or give you some lore about the boss you just defeated.
Always save her.
Melina: (Takes a bite of the skull)
Tarnish: uhhh i think you broke a tooth....
I really wish Melina was used more, appearing at the grace every time and be freely conversed with. People forget that “technically” you’re taking her with you and she’s there almost every step of the journey.
I hope somebody makes an Elden Ring mod that lets Melina be more involved in the player's adventure.
The comments have some great ideas, fromsoft should take notes on how to make the game even betterer
She could have been a companion like Atreus in God of War 4, some extra damage without affecting the gameplay all that much. She'd be a lot more involved that way, they could have expanded her way more, maybe even an ending for her.
I am afraid that you are maidenless.
The sheer disbelief on boc's face tho~
i love melina, cuz like, her.voice.is.so.soothing
She's literally sipping marrow. And I fully believe she'd protect us if there was a relationship there
Firekeeper was more of a companion just because you saw her every time at Firelink.... Melina has so much wasted potential
Tarnished, Melina and Boc on a slice of life adventure anime........ Hmmmm
I want that so much, hell any slice of life with my favorite rat seamster will be amazing
"could this be friend?,
try pickle"
-wizened message from a tarnished
also my man rockin vagabond? cool
ousama ranking music 👌🏼
やっぱりラニカスよりメリナの方がかわいいメリねぇ
This is even funnier if we have in mind that Melina is basically Marika, or at least her for the most part (a shard of her soul).
Like the use of Ousama Ranking music
Consume the rune.
I have a spirit lady in my head that calls me maidenless
When Melina actually become your maiden:
I'd Love To Have Her As A Travel Buddy, Just Doing A Lot Of Stuff That'll Confuse People.
Wish I would hear Melina every time I level up.
Boc cameo!
Boc cameo!
When I first found her I thought she was just gonna follow us around on torrent or walk alongside us, or something, but then she poofed away
I love the look on bocs face seeing her eat the skull🤣
This is cute, and wholesome I like it hey creator make one where Melina offers comfort to the Tarnished after a long winded battle
Not going to lie the calm voice is a little creepy