A workout for your self-control: Jordan Silberman at TEDxFlourCity
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2012
- Neuroeconomist Jordan Silberman describes how an EEG tied to a simple visual feedback system can allow its users to exercise and improve their everyday ability to exact self-control.
Jordan Silberman is graduate student of medicine and psychology at the University of Rochester, where he studies neuroeconomics
Jordan will be telling us about the neurological basis of self-control; he suggests that we think about it in a new way. Self-control can be trained and fatigued, much like a muscle. Jordan will describe an EEG biofeedback training system that enables people to 'flex' the neural substrate of self-control.
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I did his experiment in Rochester and it is amazing - the potential is endless. The video is worth watching for a clear and well-delivered explanation.
Put the temptation in front of you and practice everyday not to give in and you will be strengthening that part of your brain, without the need for machines
What's the update on this tech 8 yrs later? I'd love to be able to see my brain activity at home and exercise it like the talk shows.
It would have been interesting to find out what the participants were thinking when the bar went up and what they were thinking when the bar went down. Are there commonalities? Are these thoughts different for everyone? And, different how?
Practice watching this video 1 more time to improve self-control.
Love to see how we are evolving as a species. Fascinating talk. If people applied this to food- studies would show less medical concerns and longer life span for the large percentage of population that is unhealthy (not meant as an negative connotation at all) in rat race type environment fresh healthy food is not always available. Just using as an example.
Thank you. This is a contribution to humanity.
Well, basically you need that machine to improve your self-control!! However, I couldn't control to comment on this video
Because they did illustrate the point. What the actual experiments were in detail, while interesting, is not essential in this particular talk, whose main point was that self-control can be trained. As the point of this talk was not to describe how these experiments were conducted, it is sufficient enough to state that good experiments have been made.
Title should have been , 'Study on self-control'
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what a moving talk!
Misleading title.
Yoga : technology of self-control
Some people aren't very conscious about the triggers to their slip-ups, so having a device that alerts them when their brain acts a certain way could help them get off autopilot.
But yeah.. practice...
Going onto the brain bar thing itself. It's flawed too. Their basically getting better at self control in that environment. It's not necessarily going to translate into better overall self control. Even if the people do demonstrate better self control they already seem primed and willing to have "self control" by undergoing that test every day. In essence it may be a placeboesque effect only it's on the researchers. They need to make it an actual test of self control.
It's all about understanding your flaws and mitigating them to the best of your ability.
A workout that you can't do at home till the next decade
I agree, if we can do that hooked to a machine, we can do that by ourselves. The benefit of the machine is that there is no emotional involvement with the things with which people fail to have self-control, therefore they can train their brains without the feelings of blame and incapacity that are already associated with self-restraint due to much failure in doing it. They can find their self-confidence and apply it later.
Well, for instance, we could use it in the treatment for repetitive rapist or people with anger management issues. For people who can't control them self in certain basic situations, e.g. around children or females, people with strong phobias etc etc
There's no false info. All that is being said is based on real experiments, and the clips used in this talk are mere illustrations of the problem they are trying to solve. The point of this talk is not "we have shown that children have more/less self control in situation X/Y". If you're interested, those studies are one google search away. The point of the talk is "what can be done about it", so it is not necessary to go into detail in explaining how the problems were identified.
I took them as examples of "before" and "after" learning delayed gratification.
Moral of the story; don't eat marshmellows
Where can one go to get one of those machines, does anyone know?
Best work I ever do and experiences I have, are in that place just outside my control - is there a danger that we create automatons or have too many scientist been watching too much Star Trek and fancied themselves as Spock? PS I do know that self control is about the ability to consciously (as he put it) move the bar up an down, but that 'c' word is missing from the presentation!
Excuse me what was the control vs STRIDES group test? I didn't get that bit... This is baloney
I wonder what other things can be done like that.
I've heard of mental training of calming yourself down before this self-control variant.
But how about something like, say, acting creatively. Is creativity too wide-spread throughout the brain or could you do a raise-the-bar-challenge of that too?
deep words.
i would like to know what the participants thought about to make the bar go up...
deriving a thinking strategy or state of mind would be much more interesting than the prospect of hooking myself up to a machine years from now.
you even tell the participants some thing along the lines of "what are you thinking? more of that please" but you don't tell us. somewhat disappointing.
Good design! Please ignore the negative comments.
where can we get that device ?
Plus eating is a survival need. It would've been better had the kid been informed that they're preparing to order their favorite food but if they eat the marshmallow they're forbidden from eating it. That's a better test of self control than just saying to a kid don't eat it. Plus what if the other kids simply weren't hungry? Don't like marshmallows, don't want some random piece of food on the desk? There's so many variables that it's a weak test of self control.
It's still flawed. Watching it again the kid is left *alone* in a room for 15 min and told not to eat it. The dog is *watched* told to wait for a moment then it's okayed to eat. I realize I focused on the wrong thing now though. The dog isn't demonstrating self control at all. It's control of an individual while being closely monitored by a person in the room and abiding to their wishes.
I understand the patterns of thought of everyone who was trained were not mentioned because they are too intrisic, and not easily translated into verbal. You will discover your own patterns like they did.
I need this machine
OK, great! :-) ...now, where can I go to use one? :-/
Tristan Morrow coming from a guy with a picture of him drinking a shake lol
Don’t get carried away by headline. No workout given in the video to exercise/improve self control
this can end up being used against us one day....
"Like I said why not dramatize the actual tests?"
Because, as I stated, the tests are not the point of the talk. It would take more time to go into detail when describing the actual experiments, so it is enough to give a simple idea of what the tests were about.
Well no shit we can change our self control... show us how to do it more effectively. There is really nothing new here.
Neither of the videos were of actual experiments performed by these people. They were there just for dramatization purposes.
There are various problems with this experiment and idea of self control starting with the initial "self control" success/failure presentation. The dog is operating on the assumption that a few moments later he's going to be allowed to eat anyway. The kid doesn't have that. In fact there's plenty of reason to assume he's not going to get another chance at it. Think of all the stores the kid has to see food that they can't eat. So right off the base idea of "self control" is flawed.
Practice, practice, practice...
willfourth good
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His hair is pretty dope 😂
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Good video, but as far as improving self-control goes, couldn't you just....practice self-control?
cool
It's a pity that he carries a materialistic view of the self, but for the rest, excellent presentation.
All it illustrates is that there's false info in the presentation itself. The actual experiments to come to this conclusion would've been immensely more relevant and more informative. Wasting time with irrelevant dramatizations is even less essential than dramatizations of actual experiments. It is not sufficient enough to state that good experiments have been made.
Nope. Humans are not robots. Is like saying humans are trees. There some similarities, but humans robots are two very different things. No explanation needed, you are smart enough to figure it out. #this is for the comments i read on this. If you think your a Robot, sorry to break the news (not really), You are HUMAN, like it or not.
" All that is being said is based on real experiments,"
Then what's with this then?
"Neither of the videos were of actual experiments performed by these people. "
Also this:
"to simplify the less essential points"
Like I said why not dramatize the actual tests? Creating an entire fiction of tests when actual tests were done in order to "simply information" is stupid. You can simplify the info by dramatizing the actual tests just fine. Why fake info making it no better than an episode of CSI???
The presenter has limited time. Sometimes it is wiser to simplify the less essential points in order to get to the gist of the talk more quickly.
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Then it holds zero relevance to this presentation and going on about the "marshmallow test" evidence at 2:30 is a complete waste of time. The dramatizations should be relevant to the topic itself. Why not dramatize actual self control tests instead of wasting time with dog versus human eating vids? If you're right all it does is make the presentation worse.
I didn't like that .. His speech is nice and simply explaining the issue .. But I was waiting for a solution
robots got much selfcontroll cuz everythink they do 1is like a list of instructions everyone followed by an other. Simpel, part for part, booring, lifeless, effecient. I mean ... he would be a great robot but im not sry
+NamacilHDx we are like robots too you know. Our neural pathways are wired to give attention to the behavior that produces the better short term reward. To some degree its your environment and genes that determine your self control
Meditation is a non-technical and free way of rewiring the brain and strengthening self control
Let me sum up this video: self control is genetic
raj .... you should delete your comment - somone might think you are right and not watch it
"And before we knew much about self-control, that was probably true." He literally ends the video saying the opposite of your summary.
Really dumb.