Moral of the story: if you see something happening that's fucked up, say something about it, even if its not happening directly to you but one of your friends instead. And if the person doing the fucked up thing doesnt stop, grab your stuff and leave that person to rot. Don't be passive.
People being conflict-averse is why a lot of these bad situations happen. We need to train ourselves to be more comfortable with confrontations so we can stop these things before they start.
"I don't blame the DM for not knowing that I have a history of being violated, _NOR THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY FIND THE FOOTAGE ONLINE SOMEWHERE."_ I'm sorry, _what?_
@@sknkpop I knew about the revenge porn and anyone who does that needs to hang but it didn't occur to me that anyone would be petty enough to video-tape sexual assault then put it online.
At the Steubenville rape trial, the judge passed his sentence on the guilty parties, the two "promising young men" whose "lives were ruined," and said that he hoped they'd learn something from all this: Don't post your rapes to social media. Not "Don't rape." Nope. He never told them, "Don't rape." He told them, "Don't post your rapes to social media. I can't tell you how broken I felt when I saw that news. I was following the case, and I just... broke. What's worse is that I think it was within a month of that, when some boys raped a girl in Australia (Auckland, I think?), and posted video proof on their own social media, specifically to hurt and humiliate their victim, and once again, were told, "Don't post your rapes on social media! That's just stupid. Now we have to actually arrest you!" In short, the police were going to let it go as a "he said/she said" and "we can't really prove it" situation, but then they got that proof, and were ANGRY that they ACTUALLY HAD TO PROSECUTE the "promising young men."
For some reason the last story of _”this is what your character would do”_ reminded me of probably the shittiest situation I’ve been in before playing D&D. We were in a long running campaign and had been playing for about eight months, and we had a new player who’s character knew nothing about our world or what was going on, and we had already established a group dynamic with everyone, how everyone felt, and how everyone’s characters reacted to situations. I played a relatively chill Vengeance Paladin who tried to be the big sister of the group, but when it came to her enemy that she was fighting, she became increasingly aggressive towards everything (a character flaw of hers that hadn’t been a problem for the group at all, it actually led to her bolstering her bond with the rest of the party.) The new player had only been with us for about six or seven sessions and it was apparent that their character’s mindset and my character’s mindset conflicted with one another. We were getting to my Paladin’s end-arc where we were going to interact with her personal BBEG, the one who’s caused massive trauma and torment her entire life, and for the most part everyone was following what the new player was saying about “gathering information” and “wanting to understand these people”. For the most part I had my character bite her tongue because out of game I did agree with that, but I wanted everyone in the game to know just how frustrated and annoyed she was, but was willing to accommodate the party. It all came to ahead when we actually met the BBEG. My Paladin’s first instinct was to blow his head off as soon as she could, but the new player wanted to ask questions to the man, so she accepted and bided her time. The conversation went on for a good five minutes or so with my Paladin waiting, and when it came time for the BBEG to start laughing like a lunatic and spouting nonsense, that’s when she decided *”Okay, fuck this, we’re done,”* and blasted him in the face. That was where we ended the session, and out of character I was thinking _”Oh man, that was reallly good!”_ … Until the session ended and the new player started blowing up on me about _”How much of a bitch my Paladin is,”_ and _”How I’m ruining the session because of her.”_ I was honestly really shocked and realized that this new player took in-game stuff very personally and decided that I was trying to ruin his fun. The most surprising thing was that the DM took his side, too *(But the DM was a shitty person and took the side of new players over old ones. The DM being a shitty person is only in hindsight because that group left him about 2 months ago).* I got super stressed out because the blow up came out of nowhere and I genuinely felt like I had crossed a line and just left VC, but luckily my other friends had my back and we’re defending my actions, which made one of the other players who also sided with DM and the new player have my back after chastising me as well. Sort of not related to this story at all, but this just popped up in my head while listening to this video and wanted to share this experience with everyone. I mean, how would you feel if you had your own personal BBEG that you were about to fight and had your character act the way they would, and then got bullied out of voice call by someone completely new to the game, group and scenario because they just think you as a player are a shitty person and reflecting that into your character?
4:00 Ok for this I have to say DON'T just give someone a look and expect them to know what you think! NOBODY is mind reader! If you have problems or something, say it or pass a note or something. Granted I'm not done with the video but there are a few red flags in this story like "main character" and stuff.
"Thats not what your character would do." Pretty sure even in dnd peoples personalities change long term, short term or permanently depending on the situations they are facing. She just sounds horribly controlling.
My current characters beginning: Cold-blooded killer lizardfolk who joined a adventuring guild to train himself for the day he goes home to take out the person that destroyed his clan with trolls and plagues. He was basically a wild killing machine, hated cities and had little regard for killing. That character now: Still welcomes killing but his party has managed to reign him in to killing when it comes to the bbeg and his cohorts. He even has a new desire to actually stop and have a real life again, and the thought actively scares him.more than anything that he's ever faced down If my dm ever tried to tell me how my character feels...I'd freaking leave.
For the second story, I would have up and said, "If you know my character better than I do, then you can play it from now on." I don't get to truly play my character often because I'm not the only one in my house most of the time and I don't want to embarrass myself. If the DM's cutting in to interrupt one of the very few times I _do_ play my character to the best of my abilities by saying _to my fucking face_ that my character wouldn't do that, I'm just leaving. Fuck. _That._
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It seems like a lot of game go off the rails when somebody decides to introduce sex or romance into the mix. Ground rules regarding this sort of thing should be set during a Session 0 (and repeated if a new player joins mid-game), and all players and the DM should have the opportunity to indicate their "red lines" which must never be crossed. The DM, in particular, must be willing to accept and enforce these red lines. If this results in incompatibilities or messes up the DM's story and setting, then some players need to find a different game, and it's best to figure this out at the beginning. In my case, if I ever manage to join a game rather than watch from the sidelines and play D&D video games, sex and romance will be a strict red line for me - none whatsoever involving my character, nothing non-consensual involving anyone at the table, and "fade to black" rather than role play a cringe neckbeard sex fantasy in lurid detail. (Admittedly, that could be entertaining to watch, but it could be bad for the group dynamic in the long run unless done as a joke that everyone is in on.) Also, no sex or romance at all if there are minors at the table - I'm over 50, and my mere presence would render that highly inappropriate. I might relax on some of this if I knew the others in the group well and trusted them, but there is no way that I will ever engage in romantic or erotic role play with a group of strangers - starting that up would be the quickest way to drive me out of the group. Making sure that the players and the DM understand and respect each other's red lines can go a long way toward preventing horror stories. The only downside to this is that Kunic and others here on RUclips would have less material to work with.
Yeaaah. Improv is fun if used well! Like earlier today, just finished a short session where things derailed a good bit and one of our two rangers, desperate to stop the situation they'd accidentally created, tried to Temple of Doom-style a monstrous bug by ramming his hand into its wounded back. ...And getting it promptly stuck. I then had to deal with the fact this thing that they now had decided to keep alive was effectively a living, attacking shield for the guy that he had no control over. It was fun! And weird. But fun!
As someone with aspergers I'd like to put forward the contreversial opinion that anyone who is okay with an NPC raping a mentally handicapped character at the table is a horrible person... that shit is one step up from including CP in your ERP as far as I'm concerned.
I honestly think in that second one, it's possible and probable that the DM didn't want to deal with a party split in the middle of a story even, especially to another town. I can understand that. Having DMed myself, that would be a royal pain in the ass to deal with. If it were me I'd let him know that if he tries to teleport while he's panicked, he's gonna have to roll with disadvantage and ask if he's sure he wants to do that. Always remember, DMs can improve too.
@@mikaneko My simple rules for these terms: 1. anyone that calls themselves alpha, is not an alpha. 2. Chad is a fella who is very masculine and has a very positive impact to those around him, except those who are trying to ruin other peoples good time. 3. Simp is a pathetic creatures indeed, he serves a woman but not out of loyalty or respect but because he thinks he can get into her pants if he serves her. This at least is how I see the terms.
@@Nuinwing Fair, my 'rules' are more simple than that. If you use any of those terms, you're probably a moron. XD Simp is the worst one of them all because 90% of the people who use it, don't even use it in the right way but just use it to insult any guy who's genuinely nice/helpful. "Oh you held the door? SIMP. Oh you did a favor for her to be nice? SIMP." etc. Idiots, the lot of them.
I don’t know why putting that in front of a personal descriptor makes so much sense but I know a few people who were saying that kid about fools in school before exposure to dnd horror stories
My one cardinal rule is never railroad character development. If it doesn't jive with the party or game, talk to the players for a compromise. If no compromise can be reached, then either make the character work as player intends or say your goodbyes
I havent played a lot of table top but isn't it weird to have one guy in the party that explicitly is the main character? like doesnt that defeat the purpose of being a team?
I've said many tims that when a player says, "My character does THIS" and THIS is waaaaaay out of line, the DM can say, "No. I won't allow that." But this was not waaaaaaay out of line. The PC was having a panic attack, and running for help is not going to break the game. It's not like "I'm going to destroy the MacGuffin!" or "I'm going to kill my companions," or "I seduce the emperor, right there in the court, in full view of all the courtiers." That DM was waaaaaaay out of line.
How messed up people told the forst OP hey just should have said no. That's grade-a victim blaming. Stuff like that, even in DnD, can be a trauma trigger.
"How would you know what MY charakter would or would not do? I mean, it is MY charakter and that means I decide what they would and would not do!" 🤷🏼♂️ EDIT: There has only been one time in my "DM-Career" where I had to stop a player from doing something, because he seemed to not get that in that world his character would know that it leads to total annihilation of that group... [Warhammer fantasy -> Empire -> group with obvious chaos mutations all over them trying to enter a city filled with Warpriests and Witchhunters, that would LOVE to burn them at sight]
Someone claiming they know better than you about your character because they have more experience at the table is absolute nonsense. You know what your character would do in a situation better than anyone. Also, that DM's game and system sound like a mess, so all that experience doesn't seem to have done much for them; retconning events for the sake of some plotline they NEEDED to do is lazy, and a system that combines aspects from every version of D&D seems like it'd be tedious and frustrating, especially when what we currently have pares down five decades' worth of game design into the simplest way to play the game we've ever gotten. The DM just feels like someone who absolutely has to control every aspect of everything, which just falls into the "write a book" category for me.
My first session in a dnd game that can only be described as a cluster f*ck of drunk ideas mashed together almost had my character assaulted. I was the only female player at the table and I guess the dm thought "hey let's throw some lesbian s*x in here" I'm a straight woman and I was very uncomfortable but managed to speak up against it. Never played with that group again.
When will people understand that you need consent out of game first... Also, this gave me some courage to start you tube. Maybe I'll just jump into it (new channel). Just need the editing work knowhow, and make my personas look for it. But I'll give it my first try soon. 😁
Story 1- whatever your sexuality, if something is making you uncomfortable, pull the DM aside and let them know. Silence is NOT your friend. Story 2- Let me guess- the favorite properties of DM's like this in Monopoly are the railroads, right?
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 I'm aware of what happened to P Hub and I said that it was either horrible or made up. I'm willing to believe it, but the story seemed a bit made up on the whole to me, that's all.
This sounds like somebody wanting a story to grumble about than an actual gripe, but maybe its just me. D&D campaigns shouldnt have a "main character", and ive never known a DM to introduce a sexual scene past intro and fade to black. Idk, just seems like BS to me.
The first story, even I know that regardless of gender, anyone can be violated. Which is sad and how many are 1 track minded. Now I have friends who have been in situations like that, and all I could do was be there for them and help them through.
In my 43 years of Dm'ing nothing sexual was ever put in my game because there was no reason for in in a game that's based on fighting evil , adventuring across the world and seeking treasure . To me things like this have no place in gaming at all
"He pays a young lady and she attempts to escort my character into another room." Excuse me, what is being conveyed here? Did the DM pay a woman to RP trying to lead OP's character into another room? Or was that a typo about 'pay'?
@@nomousecat But then who paid the prostitute in-game? Did the DM just say "You see this random guy handing some money over to the prostitute then pointing at you. Oh, looks like she's coming over!"
If you're worried about seeming rude or out of place in standing up for another player, you can say something in a nice, friendly, non-judgmental way, such as, "I don't know if that's cool, man." You're all friends, there, right? Or, at the very least, somewhat friendly strangers. Nobody will think that's rude. If you're right, that player will say something like, "Yeah, I'm a little uncomfortable with this." If you're wrong, that player will say something like, "No, I'm okay with it," and you can say, "Oh, okay; never mind, then. Sorry for the interruption."
I don't know, first story was a bit weird. So a tavern wench slept with his character, so what? People should reallt just chill during a roleplaying game. Your character is not you, period.
My honest to God opinion: Sex and sexual encounters should never be a part of a story in a ttrpg. If two PLAYERS (this includes the DM) agree before hand to deliver that narrative ahead of time, that's another thing entirely, but if you find yourself in a situation where you're having to think about how to get your character OUT of a sexual encounter you didn't discuss with the DM ahead of time, then stop playing with that DM. As far as I am concerned, every character I write as a player or DM is asexual. Even romance or marriage (love or political) is, I prefer, entirely nonsexual. If something sexual happens, I don't want it explained at all. It gets to happen "off-screen" and then we just deal with the consequences of them (such as pregnancy and children or developing relationships). I don't think sex has a place in ttrpg at all, unless people go into the campaign being told it's a facet of the game before hand and are given the option not to be at that table at or before session 0.
Hey, for the future in your intros, can you tell people what the sensitive subjects might be instead of just saying that the stories have sensitive subjects? Not every story has a warning in front of it, and some are worse than others.
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I don't think the DM from the first story would've cared; I don't think he understands men that can be victims too.
I feel like you’re making a pretty big assumption right now
I believe it was in Britain where legally speaking men can’t be victims, or at least it was so a few years ago?
@@devenjohnson6039 no, I think their being smart, most ppl think this actually
@@AtelierGod it started with women who said it and now guys think it too
He said it's xommon, not that you had this belief. Unless...
You know it's going to be bad when you hear "main character of the DnD campaign"
Yeah I read that story for the first time in my recording, so my reaction there was genuine lol
That whole first group has more to unpack than an LAX customs officer.
Moral of the story: if you see something happening that's fucked up, say something about it, even if its not happening directly to you but one of your friends instead. And if the person doing the fucked up thing doesnt stop, grab your stuff and leave that person to rot. Don't be passive.
General rule that applies everywhere in any situation: "It is never wrong to say you don't like or want rape"
People being conflict-averse is why a lot of these bad situations happen. We need to train ourselves to be more comfortable with confrontations so we can stop these things before they start.
"I don't blame the DM for not knowing that I have a history of being violated, _NOR THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY FIND THE FOOTAGE ONLINE SOMEWHERE."_
I'm sorry, _what?_
You'd be surprised. Date rape gets recorded and put online often, as does revenge porn. It's a big part of why there are now laws about it.
@@sknkpop I knew about the revenge porn and anyone who does that needs to hang but it didn't occur to me that anyone would be petty enough to video-tape sexual assault then put it online.
@@Mr.Spongecake Some people can be VERY fucked up.
At the Steubenville rape trial, the judge passed his sentence on the guilty parties, the two "promising young men" whose "lives were ruined," and said that he hoped they'd learn something from all this: Don't post your rapes to social media.
Not "Don't rape." Nope. He never told them, "Don't rape." He told them, "Don't post your rapes to social media.
I can't tell you how broken I felt when I saw that news. I was following the case, and I just... broke.
What's worse is that I think it was within a month of that, when some boys raped a girl in Australia (Auckland, I think?), and posted video proof on their own social media, specifically to hurt and humiliate their victim, and once again, were told, "Don't post your rapes on social media! That's just stupid. Now we have to actually arrest you!" In short, the police were going to let it go as a "he said/she said" and "we can't really prove it" situation, but then they got that proof, and were ANGRY that they ACTUALLY HAD TO PROSECUTE the "promising young men."
@@AuntLoopy123 Honestly, this shit should be usable as evidence to disbar and fire those people.
For some reason the last story of _”this is what your character would do”_ reminded me of probably the shittiest situation I’ve been in before playing D&D.
We were in a long running campaign and had been playing for about eight months, and we had a new player who’s character knew nothing about our world or what was going on, and we had already established a group dynamic with everyone, how everyone felt, and how everyone’s characters reacted to situations. I played a relatively chill Vengeance Paladin who tried to be the big sister of the group, but when it came to her enemy that she was fighting, she became increasingly aggressive towards everything (a character flaw of hers that hadn’t been a problem for the group at all, it actually led to her bolstering her bond with the rest of the party.)
The new player had only been with us for about six or seven sessions and it was apparent that their character’s mindset and my character’s mindset conflicted with one another.
We were getting to my Paladin’s end-arc where we were going to interact with her personal BBEG, the one who’s caused massive trauma and torment her entire life, and for the most part everyone was following what the new player was saying about “gathering information” and “wanting to understand these people”. For the most part I had my character bite her tongue because out of game I did agree with that, but I wanted everyone in the game to know just how frustrated and annoyed she was, but was willing to accommodate the party.
It all came to ahead when we actually met the BBEG. My Paladin’s first instinct was to blow his head off as soon as she could, but the new player wanted to ask questions to the man, so she accepted and bided her time. The conversation went on for a good five minutes or so with my Paladin waiting, and when it came time for the BBEG to start laughing like a lunatic and spouting nonsense, that’s when she decided *”Okay, fuck this, we’re done,”* and blasted him in the face. That was where we ended the session, and out of character I was thinking _”Oh man, that was reallly good!”_ … Until the session ended and the new player started blowing up on me about _”How much of a bitch my Paladin is,”_ and _”How I’m ruining the session because of her.”_ I was honestly really shocked and realized that this new player took in-game stuff very personally and decided that I was trying to ruin his fun. The most surprising thing was that the DM took his side, too *(But the DM was a shitty person and took the side of new players over old ones. The DM being a shitty person is only in hindsight because that group left him about 2 months ago).* I got super stressed out because the blow up came out of nowhere and I genuinely felt like I had crossed a line and just left VC, but luckily my other friends had my back and we’re defending my actions, which made one of the other players who also sided with DM and the new player have my back after chastising me as well.
Sort of not related to this story at all, but this just popped up in my head while listening to this video and wanted to share this experience with everyone. I mean, how would you feel if you had your own personal BBEG that you were about to fight and had your character act the way they would, and then got bullied out of voice call by someone completely new to the game, group and scenario because they just think you as a player are a shitty person and reflecting that into your character?
Players have to remenber they can always use their ultimate move: I walk away from the table and leave.
That's a Level 20 special ability, right there.
4:00 Ok for this I have to say DON'T just give someone a look and expect them to know what you think! NOBODY is mind reader! If you have problems or something, say it or pass a note or something.
Granted I'm not done with the video but there are a few red flags in this story like "main character" and stuff.
"Thats not what your character would do."
Pretty sure even in dnd peoples personalities change long term, short term or permanently depending on the situations they are facing. She just sounds horribly controlling.
Think that's bad? One of my DMs once said that during character creation.
My current characters beginning: Cold-blooded killer lizardfolk who joined a adventuring guild to train himself for the day he goes home to take out the person that destroyed his clan with trolls and plagues.
He was basically a wild killing machine, hated cities and had little regard for killing.
That character now: Still welcomes killing but his party has managed to reign him in to killing when it comes to the bbeg and his cohorts. He even has a new desire to actually stop and have a real life again, and the thought actively scares him.more than anything that he's ever faced down
If my dm ever tried to tell me how my character feels...I'd freaking leave.
For the second story, I would have up and said, "If you know my character better than I do, then you can play it from now on." I don't get to truly play my character often because I'm not the only one in my house most of the time and I don't want to embarrass myself. If the DM's cutting in to interrupt one of the very few times I _do_ play my character to the best of my abilities by saying _to my fucking face_ that my character wouldn't do that, I'm just leaving. Fuck. _That._
Hey Kunic! Grats on the continued growth man!
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It seems like a lot of game go off the rails when somebody decides to introduce sex or romance into the mix. Ground rules regarding this sort of thing should be set during a Session 0 (and repeated if a new player joins mid-game), and all players and the DM should have the opportunity to indicate their "red lines" which must never be crossed. The DM, in particular, must be willing to accept and enforce these red lines. If this results in incompatibilities or messes up the DM's story and setting, then some players need to find a different game, and it's best to figure this out at the beginning. In my case, if I ever manage to join a game rather than watch from the sidelines and play D&D video games, sex and romance will be a strict red line for me - none whatsoever involving my character, nothing non-consensual involving anyone at the table, and "fade to black" rather than role play a cringe neckbeard sex fantasy in lurid detail. (Admittedly, that could be entertaining to watch, but it could be bad for the group dynamic in the long run unless done as a joke that everyone is in on.) Also, no sex or romance at all if there are minors at the table - I'm over 50, and my mere presence would render that highly inappropriate. I might relax on some of this if I knew the others in the group well and trusted them, but there is no way that I will ever engage in romantic or erotic role play with a group of strangers - starting that up would be the quickest way to drive me out of the group. Making sure that the players and the DM understand and respect each other's red lines can go a long way toward preventing horror stories. The only downside to this is that Kunic and others here on RUclips would have less material to work with.
I think fade to black works as a general rule of thumb. In fact plenty of horror stories could have been averted if the party kept things PG-13.
@@emberfist8347 Or just not done at all.
Yeaaah. Improv is fun if used well! Like earlier today, just finished a short session where things derailed a good bit and one of our two rangers, desperate to stop the situation they'd accidentally created, tried to Temple of Doom-style a monstrous bug by ramming his hand into its wounded back.
...And getting it promptly stuck. I then had to deal with the fact this thing that they now had decided to keep alive was effectively a living, attacking shield for the guy that he had no control over. It was fun! And weird. But fun!
As someone with aspergers I'd like to put forward the contreversial opinion that anyone who is okay with an NPC raping a mentally handicapped character at the table is a horrible person... that shit is one step up from including CP in your ERP as far as I'm concerned.
I honestly think in that second one, it's possible and probable that the DM didn't want to deal with a party split in the middle of a story even, especially to another town. I can understand that. Having DMed myself, that would be a royal pain in the ass to deal with. If it were me I'd let him know that if he tries to teleport while he's panicked, he's gonna have to roll with disadvantage and ask if he's sure he wants to do that. Always remember, DMs can improve too.
Knew that first story was going to be rough when it started off "Alpha-male DM." Okay, buddy, keep telling yourself that.
Yeaaah, I can't take anyone seriously when they use the terms "Alpha Male/Female, Chad, or Simp"
@@mikaneko My simple rules for these terms:
1. anyone that calls themselves alpha, is not an alpha.
2. Chad is a fella who is very masculine and has a very positive impact to those around him, except those who are trying to ruin other peoples good time.
3. Simp is a pathetic creatures indeed, he serves a woman but not out of loyalty or respect but because he thinks he can get into her pants if he serves her.
This at least is how I see the terms.
@@Nuinwing Fair, my 'rules' are more simple than that. If you use any of those terms, you're probably a moron. XD Simp is the worst one of them all because 90% of the people who use it, don't even use it in the right way but just use it to insult any guy who's genuinely nice/helpful. "Oh you held the door? SIMP. Oh you did a favor for her to be nice? SIMP." etc. Idiots, the lot of them.
@@mikaneko That's just what a simp would say. /s
@@stevenschnepp576 LOL. Oh no you found me out /s XD
I don’t know why putting that in front of a personal descriptor makes so much sense but I know a few people who were saying that kid about fools in school before exposure to dnd horror stories
Feels good to see my beautiful mug in this video.
🎵What can I say except *yikes*🎶
Will watch later but mass respect for Chinatsu in the thumbnail
2:38 nice Watcher/Ultron impression
No brakes on the grape train.
My one cardinal rule is never railroad character development. If it doesn't jive with the party or game, talk to the players for a compromise. If no compromise can be reached, then either make the character work as player intends or say your goodbyes
I havent played a lot of table top but isn't it weird to have one guy in the party that explicitly is the main character? like doesnt that defeat the purpose of being a team?
Story one: That guy that has to make oversensitive people right.
Adam Koebel, was that you?
At some point there has to be contracts amongst the players and dm.
Well that went downhill quickly
SO FAST WOOO
I've said many tims that when a player says, "My character does THIS" and THIS is waaaaaay out of line, the DM can say, "No. I won't allow that."
But this was not waaaaaaay out of line. The PC was having a panic attack, and running for help is not going to break the game. It's not like "I'm going to destroy the MacGuffin!" or "I'm going to kill my companions," or "I seduce the emperor, right there in the court, in full view of all the courtiers."
That DM was waaaaaaay out of line.
I wish i could insight check irl
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How messed up people told the forst OP hey just should have said no. That's grade-a victim blaming. Stuff like that, even in DnD, can be a trauma trigger.
NO. Victim blaming is...well...blaming the victim, saying what could have been done different is not blaming anyone....
"How would you know what MY charakter would or would not do? I mean, it is MY charakter and that means I decide what they would and would not do!" 🤷🏼♂️
EDIT: There has only been one time in my "DM-Career" where I had to stop a player from doing something, because he seemed to not get that in that world his character would know that it leads to total annihilation of that group... [Warhammer fantasy -> Empire -> group with obvious chaos mutations all over them trying to enter a city filled with Warpriests and Witchhunters, that would LOVE to burn them at sight]
Buttons.
Someone claiming they know better than you about your character because they have more experience at the table is absolute nonsense. You know what your character would do in a situation better than anyone. Also, that DM's game and system sound like a mess, so all that experience doesn't seem to have done much for them; retconning events for the sake of some plotline they NEEDED to do is lazy, and a system that combines aspects from every version of D&D seems like it'd be tedious and frustrating, especially when what we currently have pares down five decades' worth of game design into the simplest way to play the game we've ever gotten. The DM just feels like someone who absolutely has to control every aspect of everything, which just falls into the "write a book" category for me.
Both OPs in these need to speak up especially the one in the first story, cuz friendly reminder no one can read your f’ing mind
Trust me, I am glad the campaign from story 1
Is NOT on youtube. This would be an example of how NOT to play ttrpg.
My first session in a dnd game that can only be described as a cluster f*ck of drunk ideas mashed together almost had my character assaulted. I was the only female player at the table and I guess the dm thought "hey let's throw some lesbian s*x in here" I'm a straight woman and I was very uncomfortable but managed to speak up against it. Never played with that group again.
When will people understand that you need consent out of game first...
Also, this gave me some courage to start you tube. Maybe I'll just jump into it (new channel). Just need the editing work knowhow, and make my personas look for it. But I'll give it my first try soon. 😁
What the what lol ohh no no nooo
Story 1- whatever your sexuality, if something is making you uncomfortable, pull the DM aside and let them know. Silence is NOT your friend.
Story 2- Let me guess- the favorite properties of DM's like this in Monopoly are the railroads, right?
Wait the OP in the first story had their SA recorded and it's posted online? That either horrible or made up.
I mean, it happened enough that a certain site had to literally purge all non-verified content. I totally believe that happened.
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 I'm aware of what happened to P Hub and I said that it was either horrible or made up. I'm willing to believe it, but the story seemed a bit made up on the whole to me, that's all.
This sounds like somebody wanting a story to grumble about than an actual gripe, but maybe its just me. D&D campaigns shouldnt have a "main character", and ive never known a DM to introduce a sexual scene past intro and fade to black. Idk, just seems like BS to me.
Soon as I hear 'butthurt snowflakes won't like this' I'm out. Call it paranoia but all I see is a huge red flag
The first story, even I know that regardless of gender, anyone can be violated. Which is sad and how many are 1 track minded. Now I have friends who have been in situations like that, and all I could do was be there for them and help them through.
In my 43 years of Dm'ing nothing sexual was ever put in my game because there was no reason for in in a game that's based on fighting evil , adventuring across the world and seeking treasure .
To me things like this have no place in gaming at all
Why the heck would you get hate comments??
I know 😭
"He pays a young lady and she attempts to escort my character into another room." Excuse me, what is being conveyed here? Did the DM pay a woman to RP trying to lead OP's character into another room? Or was that a typo about 'pay'?
I think he RP'd paying a prostitute and then RP'd as said prostitute.
@@nomousecat But then who paid the prostitute in-game? Did the DM just say "You see this random guy handing some money over to the prostitute then pointing at you. Oh, looks like she's coming over!"
@@darklord884 it sounded like one of the characters was a dmpc self insert ("the dm 15 years younger character)
@@baronfel124 It was written really weirdlý if you ask me.
If you're worried about seeming rude or out of place in standing up for another player, you can say something in a nice, friendly, non-judgmental way, such as, "I don't know if that's cool, man." You're all friends, there, right? Or, at the very least, somewhat friendly strangers. Nobody will think that's rude.
If you're right, that player will say something like, "Yeah, I'm a little uncomfortable with this." If you're wrong, that player will say something like, "No, I'm okay with it," and you can say, "Oh, okay; never mind, then. Sorry for the interruption."
Bruh, the first story is…. uncomfortably messed up
Oh hey Im here fast
I don't know, first story was a bit weird. So a tavern wench slept with his character, so what? People should reallt just chill during a roleplaying game. Your character is not you, period.
My honest to God opinion: Sex and sexual encounters should never be a part of a story in a ttrpg. If two PLAYERS (this includes the DM) agree before hand to deliver that narrative ahead of time, that's another thing entirely, but if you find yourself in a situation where you're having to think about how to get your character OUT of a sexual encounter you didn't discuss with the DM ahead of time, then stop playing with that DM. As far as I am concerned, every character I write as a player or DM is asexual. Even romance or marriage (love or political) is, I prefer, entirely nonsexual. If something sexual happens, I don't want it explained at all. It gets to happen "off-screen" and then we just deal with the consequences of them (such as pregnancy and children or developing relationships). I don't think sex has a place in ttrpg at all, unless people go into the campaign being told it's a facet of the game before hand and are given the option not to be at that table at or before session 0.
Am I the only one who sees the DM as not having done anything wrong?
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Hey, for the future in your intros, can you tell people what the sensitive subjects might be instead of just saying that the stories have sensitive subjects? Not every story has a warning in front of it, and some are worse than others.