Baystate Blue Ink - multiple demonstrations
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- October 2014 update:
A Japanese brush pen company a few months ago raised the cost to Noodler's significantly of the brush pen we were including in the 4.5 oz. bottle. This was always added on a "while they last" basis and was never at any additional cost - please note that 4.5 oz. bottle costs were the exact same rate before and after pens were added to the package. Thus, they were truly "free pens" and at no additional cost. Noodler's has run out of Swiss made ink ball tips and will no longer include them with free pens, as their cost increased by more than 300%. Free brush pens are no longer included as their cost increased by more than 700%. We can actually now make our own brush pens and as soon as is possible, will make an eyedropper filled model at the old price level and hopefully be able to return to the economic ability to include it at no additional charge. Everyone is raising prices, but there is - as usual...no inflation behind the green curtain.
In addition, we still have been sending out "Made in Taxachusetts" labels, but very few have been redeemed. There are still quite a few music nib Baystate Blue prize pens available...and now more than their number of labels outstanding!! If we run out, remember that we reserve the right to issue the holder of the label either a $50 value in Noodler's pens/inks or a different color Neponset music nib pen. Alas, once those prize pens are all awarded, we are not able to replicate that material. 
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I live in Japan and Noodler's inks are the only ones I will pay to import.
Can't live without them!!
"and then ask them what the hell they're smoking." BRUH I LOVE TARDIF SO MUCH
I have and continue to use BSB. I love it. Please don't stop making it just because some don't like it. Their loss.
One time I handed in an assignment, but had forgotten to write my name on it. The teacher returned it the next day, pointing out the lack of a name on it, but said they knew it was mine because of my "blue pen"
I love how the paper gets tossed into the water with reckless abandon.
"There! Behold the power! Behold the majesty!"
Nathan, you probably don't need someone thanking you for it, but THANK YOU for caring about ink and the pen industry. Your passion, your knowledge, and your efforts for those of us who care about pens and ink are very much appreciated.
"Please find a source for US pens" A bit of history on a particular country and fountain pens...
Sheaffer, Waterman, Cross, Parker, Conklin, Moore, Chilton, Carter, Wahl, Pick, Caw, Wirt, Eagle, Inkograph, Wearever, Esterbrook, AA Waterman, Dunn, Sager, Arnold, Sterling, John Holland, Rider, Tiffany, etc…all obtained ebonite from: INDIA. Why not Noodler’s too?
It's $174 of cartridges - on average - per single $12 bottle of Noodler's. Do the math.
Wow. That was a generous gift back in 2011. I wish I had known about your ink and pens sooner. I purchased the Baystate Blue because it's the most beautiful blue ink I've ever seen. I haven't filled my pen with it yet because I'm probably going to get a Noodler's pen to use exclusively with it.
I'm only just now getting back into fountain pens and fountain pen inks after many decades. I'm very happy I've found yours, Sir. They flow beautifully and I'm falling in love with fountain pens again. I can't say thank you enough.
Best blue ever period. Thank you Nathan for sharing it with us.
This video, Mr. Tardif, did its job. It convinced me to finally get myself a bottle of Baystate Blue (despite all the scary reviews everywhere) and I love it! I use it in the Nib Creaper rollerball and it performs amazingly even on cheap paper! With just a bit of water it didn't feather on the most fibrous paper I could find around my place, and for the rest it looks simply amazing. Thank you for this video (even if it's old) that convinced me to try out this beautiful ink :)
Yes, I should bow down to any feed material - including casein, and simply halt any production of an alkaline or even water based ink in order to take blame for another manufacturer's product defect. Note that Noodler's pens NEVER use casein and the feeds are tried and true ebonite...a material with the best capillary action and more than 100 years of proof in ink use of ANY pH range. One is free to get affordable ebonite feeds that work with ALL water based inks made - or get something else!
Bravo Nathan! I've had BSBlue in my ink drawer for some time now and it is indeed the most striking color I own. Love it.
i LOVE how you demonstrate your passion for ink through this video. bravo! not only for the demo but creating such a high performance product.
This is hands down my favorite blue. I'm over half way through my first 4.5oz bottle and have used it in my Ahab and also in a converter pen. Never had any issues. I write a lot for work and tend to use printer paper to jot my notes down. No bleeding or feathering. You literally can't beat the value and price. I have no clue how much I've saved just by using this ink. But I do know I used to go through about 2 refills per week in a popular gel pen that costs $3-4 for a package of 2 refills. Never looking back. Thank you, Nathan!
*THIS remains a legendary ink!!!! Thank you Nathan!*
"This ink to contunue to be made until I'm a dead man"
I so glad there is a man of priciple behind the product. BSB is more fun to write with than any other ink I've used. Though Black Swan in Aus Roses is growing on me.
He was. Pity.
@@ERH1453 oh no :( Well, it is pretty tough being a business person in the world, maybe the time and stresses took their toll on him? :(
I rarely use any seriously expensive pens, so I don't forsee the staining being an issue to me. Besides that, this is by FAR the most beautiful and vibrant blue ink that I have ever seen. I wouldn't be surprised if I never used another blue ink again. If that's the case, the staining doesn't even matter!
1. I have a great revulsion for the haters and nay sayers that populate the pen-web. 2. I am a major fan of Noodler products from Bay State Blue to my Pine Cone Ebonite Pen. 3. I am pleased and honored to buy and use the BSB and other of your products. God Bless America and Nathan as well.
The video is compelling. The ink is fantastic, the freedom of two specificiations: Free as in free beer, and Free as in Freedom. Your company is a credit to the human spirit, as are you, Mr. InkNeedLastForever. I'm gobsmacked!
"... this ink to continue to be made till I'm a dead man." God bless you Nathan. You are an inspiration.
I write all my stuff using either Baystate Blue or Heart of Darkness (plus the likes of Cactus Fruit Eel, Habanero and others for the purpose of adding some accent to the page.) The color of Baystate Blue is kinda like the reflection of my soul. But since becoming more familiar with your philosophy, there's more than the peerless color of the ink that's inspiring; it's what it stands for. It's what YOU stand for. It's the absolute reminder of what a passionate purist can add to this world that's squirming in the claws of standardization and robotization. It's the soul and the spirit of the whole thing. THANK YOU. Writing with your inks will always remind me to not give up. They'll somehow show me the way to hold onto the passion of being sincere and true when life blows real hard to take it away from me.
I'm getting my hands on an Ahab tomorrow which will be filled to the brim with Baystate Blue and will become the main extension of my soul.
My thoughts will be transferred into reality through your pen and inks. And that's a blessing, as well as an honor.
Hope you live to be 106. And all of us the yay-sayers will have Baystate Blue as long as our hands can hold a pen.
Wow.. our Baystate Blue soul
I'm sorry if you've ever covered this, but I got my Charlie pen and that's what I use with the Bay State blue it came from.
My question is, will bleach hurt any part of the Charlie pen?
Figured although old, this was the best video to ask the maker of this awesome ink!!!
When I first got back into fountain pens, I bought Baystate Concord Grape and Baystate Cape Cod Cranberry. I love these colors and am glad that you extended the range . I have tried a sample of Baystate Blue, but have yet to buy it. I tend to buy inks that require more maintenance and diligent cleaning, simply because those are the colors I love.
I finally got my first bottle. Most beautiful-vibrant blue I've ever seen.
Nathan simply ROCKS!
Great video, Nathan. Thank you so much for all the work you do to make writing such an enjoyable experience. I haven't gotten to try Bay State Blue yet, but it looks great.
i'm not a huge fan of blue, green is my color, i have your bulletproof black and ordered 5 green samples from Goulet to try out. but when i decide on which green i want to commit to, i'm also buying a bottle of baystate just because you rock.... and i'm proud to be from the bay state (sometimes)
It sometimes sells out, but thus far I have always managed to bring it back. The 4.5 oz offering is labor intensive and those brush pens have gone up in cost (Japan) considerably...it should be noted the "Taxachusetts" labels are ONLY sent on 3 oz bottles! No other company would deal with such a controversial ink, so I do fear that if I ever fail to deliver...it will be history.
Thank God that your inks are not controversial any more.
@@ERH1453is that sarcasm I’m sensing?
@@gfeld Comrade Feldmann, the Party does not allow for "sarcasm" and if that is a new ink color, it have to be changed, of course.
The first ink I ever got was the Bay State Blue, my wife (gf at the time) gave it to me as a gift. Was completely new to fountain pens and have never opened a bottle of ink, and certainly had no idea that Noodler's was filled to the brim. I opened it up, and it immediately spurted/splashed on my new white couch! lmao, that stain was there for years until we moved out of Boston!! Loved the ink while I had it.
I'm back into fountain pens, and have always been using Noodler's black, but want new colors now. After seeing/reading about the Park Red, and seeing you pull out a Milton Friedman book... Will be hard to buy any other ink than Noodler's
Love the confidence and love of the craft
Nathan does well to educate the community. A beautiful ink, too; one of the more hardcore ones.
Yes It's pretty permanent 😂
Well you can’t deny his passion!
yeah
Excellent. On of my favorite videos. I’m going to buy a bottle of BSB and a dedicated Creaper, one that will look really great with BSB ink.
First off, I want to both compliment the Noodler's people and say that I flat love all the Noodler's inks that I have used. My 2 primary inks are Bay State Blue and X-Feather. Both of these are real standouts and are different and unique from other inks. Both are VERY dense and just the way I like them. I never diluted them (as mentioned) but could easily see why there is a great deal of density-latitude to do so.
To be honest, I have had two MINOR issues: First, I have seen a cheap converter barrel permanently stain, leaving a pretty blue-hue; Second, on this cheap converter, I did experience sticking of the plunger whereby it moved in jerks (other inks subsequently tried in this converter were smooth in their plunger-motion). I replaced that cheap-converter (again the one that stained) and the problem was solved. I do feel there is something unique with the Bay State Blue but I found simple workarounds and will be a Bay State Blue customer for life--for me no other blue ink comes close to the brilliance, lack of feathering and permanence that I want from a blue ink. And in balance I have other-colors from many other companies that are great too!
In closing, I hope Bay State Blue will always be available, and I have loaded it in many pens with no other issues than mentioned above (that used cheap components). And finally, if you want a really cool and incredible black ink, try Noodler's X-Feather. X-Feather is SUPER-BLACK (with a beautiful black-color that is hard to describe--and it really stands out in sunlight) and totally permanent. The flow and density was surprising given that I mostly use extra-fine points and have to adjust the nibs to be very-dry to get the fine lines I need. The only thing about X-Feather, is it needs a few moments to dry or you can get a smudge but it's very-well worth it.
P.S. I really appreciate all of the RUclips commenters. I have really learned a lot and picked up great tips and things that have helped me trouble-shoot my pen-performance issues and learning nib-adjusting tricks to get incredible results.
Thank You Guys!
SpinStar1956 Have you ever tried the 'normal' Noodler's Black, or even Heart of Darkness? I personally always use the latter and it's an intensely pure black that dries faster. Then again, I guess that X-Feather is better for the very fine lines, right?
No, I have not. I mostly did research and found that the X-Feather was very black and did not feather on most papers. I plan to try and find samples of the inks you mention and may find that one of them might be better (X-Feather does take some time to dry). I wish I could compare but will tell you that X-Feather is well-behaved on very thin lines (i.e. using light pressure) without spreading. Thanks for your two suggestions as I will certainly try your recommendations and see if I should switch...
This is the prettiest blue ink I've seen yet.
+Michael Vargo The day I get a heart attack is probably going to be the day it runs out! I still stare at the line it makes upon the page as the contrast and intensity is unrivaled and has not yet been improved upon.
"free to choose"... NICE. Nathan from Noodler's would be proud.
(edit... Oh shit... this is your channel!! Brother... I would like to thank you for all your wonderful inks. I only buy Noodler's. Your packaging is the best. I have multiple bottles of some of my favorite inks that I keep new. The Bernanke Blue, and Berning Red are fricking brilliant. And my favorite label is probably the FDR "black and blue". All of your labels are brilliant. Adam Smith one coming? Or Friedman? Friedman has a great story (not his) that he reiterates about how no one knows how a pencil is made. Maybe something along those lines? Anyway. Your inks are the best inks in the world. Thank you. )
I love this ink. All the inks are great, and I don’t have concerns about permanence or alteration personally, but this one is just so bright and easy on the eyes. It’s higher contrast than black ink, in a weird way. Makes even my illegible handwriting easier to read.
You had me at the soak test 👍
Japanese pens, Swiss tips...yes...why? Pure frustration. I became more of a free trade believer when I could not get the needed permits for expansion here in the US - regulatory requirements in effect mandate a 27% youth unemployment rate. There are MANY duly elected politicians and their appointed bureaucrats who HATE US business. I see empty factories from Providence RI to Lowell, Lawrence, out to Worcester...and further to Allentown, Youngstown...and Detroit. The reasons are very clear.
"Please find a source for US pens," The rule is - the ink is the primary product and the pen is the ACCESSORY to the INK. The pen is the tool that gets the ink upon the page..and once that ink is upon the page it can make you immortal if the ink is good enough and what you have drawn or composed memorable enough. The ink can write on many surfaces and with many different pens. I failed at making a competitive US pen for 20 yrs, how long was I supposed to try?
InkNeedLastForever, wow! Thank you for that heartfelt answer.
Nathan, You're the fucking MAN!
wonderful and informative demonstration. Thank you. I learned a lot from it.
I bought this ink and thank you for your share! Lovely ink.
More labels have been sent out and will continue to be sent out - as too many people are not recognizing the offer. Perhaps the label has to be a golden ticket to stand out more?!
We took the risk that since many pens have not been claimed - if you get a label and the music nib prize pen has run out due to there being too many winners vrs. the limited number of pens - at that point you'll get the $50 worth of other Noodler's pens (actually more than that if full retail, about $70 worth).
I have a pen that is dedicated to Baystate Blue since the first bottle was made and has never been cleaned with bleach...just water and now and then a soak in water. Bleach is needed only if a stain bothers you. I don't mix it with other inks at all, but I have filled a pen with other inks after a good rinse with a 1/3 ammonia/water mix. If you need to remove it - it is highly vulnerable to bleach...that's all.
I never saw this video!!!
I have to check my bottle to see if it's a made in taxachusetts one.
Purchased in 2013 I believe.
If I could only use one... Baystate Blue until the end!
Nathan, perhaps, the operating part is the non-recycled bit here? Love the color, but all paper I have access to shows some bleeding with this ink. Love the way it pops, but the feathering is a big challenge on most papers - which I suspect have some recycled paper pulp in them. I can't afford coated papers like Tomoe River for everyday use.
I wrote about the paper being non-recycled, which you spoke at the beginning of the video.
Awesome. Just got it yesterday and love this ink. Thanks.
I replied to this but the service did not post...so I'll try again... BSB feathers on mole-skien, some ball pen pad papers, some ink jet papers, some recycled - but not all. The reason for the paper in the film is to disprove this belief that paper without BSB feathering is hard to find or costly. A ream for less than $2 is pretty reasonable IMO. There are many papers it does not feather on, and a few it does feather on...but it does NOT feather on everything!!!
Finding out which pens, inks, and paper work well together, or don't, is one of the things that makes fountain pens interesting.
Moleskine is terrible paper for fountain pens unless you are using EF nibs.
Difference in philosophy. 1st: I reviewed some data on the autopsy of a sea turtle found dead off Cape Cod - it had ingested a floating pen cartridge (which looks like a small jelly fish when in the water). If you have had one of these animals come up by the boat to breath at you...you don't want them to die! 2nd: the math for cartridges is the ultimate consumer rip-off vrs. bottled ink and I can't offer them in good conscience.
I have found that Rogaine will get BSB off of your fingers easily, love the ink!
The least costly non-recycled papers...and I have great depth and color contrast with little to no feathering...this has been ongoing for years. All I can say...perhaps the feather prone paper costs too much.
Nathan I love your ink and ink labels. I hope you don’t have to keep changing them.
I have my 3 dedicated pens to this ink, love this ink and like to use it when I sign govt contracts on behalf of the Crown as it is water resistant. It along with Plains of Abraham, Tanzanite Special Reserve and MB Toffee Brown are my four favorite inks and Noodlers may just be my favorite due to that vibrant colour. I need to find Noodlers Beaver Brown and see how I like it.
Excellent, excellent, excellent book by an excellent economist! You've likely already acquired a copy of the most excellent Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt.
Baystate Blue is the most brighten and the most impressive blue I have ever seen. It is waterproof (i'm not sure if it is bulletproof or not) and the color will NOT change when meets water. The color, some other waterproof Noodler's ink like walnut, may slightly be changed by water, though the writing will not vanish.
BUT because of it's staining rumor, i will not use it in any expensive piston fountain pen... I only use it in converter fountain pen.
Excellent video Nathan
I recently bought this ink even though I don't really like blue. I do like this one. It has the intensity I like in the black I usually use. This does bleed through on some of my notebooks, so it's not a write-everywhere color. Nevertheless, very nice, and very intense. This is what blue should be.
Love Bay State Blue!
Thank you for this video Nathan. You answered many of my questions and it was an interesting presentation.
@gfrank98 a good plan. i reused the bottle from some crappy higgins ink to hold a nice mix of Antietam and BP-black. be careful with checked luggage though; my noodler's bottles didn't leak there, while the higgins bottle did. for myself, apart from dropping one, i can't see how a noodler's bottle would shatter or even leak; it's fairly thick glass. i just throw them in my backpack and haven't had problems. spillage from open bottles is much more of a concern, but not after a few refills.
This ink is awesome! I love it.
I got BSB a while ago, I've had no problems with it whatsoever. It's a really nice ink, a brilliant color, but just didn't fit my taste. I thought I would love it but the color didn't do for me what it did for others
I have it in an 05 preppy at 1/4 original concentration. I often have to write down a quick note and I don't carry paper with me, so I just jot it down on my arm. This ink allows it to not wash away, so is very useful. My three ounce bottle will probably last me the rest of my life
Great video. Thank you. RS Canada
@InkNeedLastForever I love your inks, and over half of the inks I have are yours. And I completely agree with this sentiment. I was wondering if you would consider selling the preppy roller ball converters on their own. They work beautifully, and for us on a budget, and will practical needs/left handedness, they are a godsend. Would you consider selling them on their own? I would buy two dozen in a heartbeat.
Noodler's Blue
Noodler's Bad Blue Heron
Noodler's Blue-Black
Noodler's Bad Belted Kingfisher
Most blues feather less than BSB, on most paper with most pens. As Frank said, feathering is a spectrum; I've used BSB and a couple other blues, and it is distinctly more feathering-prone than many blues.
I am a huge fan of BSB, it just happens to be a little more likely to feather than most inks, blue or otherwise.
Please accept my congratulations about your principles and brand ethic.
I think you’re great and love all that you do!
I just got this ink,it just seems to have skipping from time to time.Also,it do feathering on my 24lb c.paper with my preppy fountain pen also with bleed through. But it work well with my campus paper. Little paper picky ink.
However, I was charmed by the intense blue.
Rather than go through the cleaning issues, which aren't that bad, I decided to convert a preppy with Goulet o-ring and use it as my baystate blue eyedropper.
Now the bottles come with a Charlie pen, so if I run out of my bottle I'll get that and use that Charlie pen for it. :-)
But all in all (if Goulet still sells the o-rings, it's a cheap way to use this awesome ink and not have to worry about your pen (even though a bit of bleach in water makes it good as new.)
Mr. Tardif, I own and use BSB, but I have to comment on your logic - just because you have a paper on which BSB does not feather does *not* mean it isn't a feathery ink. I think we can all agree that feathering is a spectrum, not a binary, and in that spectrum, BSB is more feathery than Bulletproof Black, no?
Will BSB always be produced? I still have a lot of HoD, but this is next. I'm worried tho that it'll run out, because I know you are always busy making different colors. BTW, saw your new pens, they look great! You are revolutionizing the FP market!
I just got my bottle of Baystate Blue and I actually can't wait to get to work Monday and start signing stuff. I got some on my finger while filling my Lamy Studio. Question is, how do you get that ink staining off your fingers?
Which of your black inks is the closest in composition and performance to BayState Blue?
Is cleaning with bleach needed just for aesthetics, or also required to prevent interactions with other inks like Bulletproof Black? Is a good water rinse not enough for that? Just wondering because I don't care about color left behind, but some pens have metals that I don't want to apply full strength bleach to (nib collar in Pelikans). If bleach is required I'll just not use those pens with this ink.
Love the Bad Belted Kingfisher, about to order a samplr of Baystate blue. Honestly i hate all blues that look like the classic ballpoint blue, really love blue-blacks.
This paper that you're using here, I can't find anywhere. I put your ink in your own pen and it ate it after sometime. Feathers on almost all papers. Pretty useuless unless you're an artist.
Odd.
I've used an entire 3oz bottle of this ink. I most often used it on the bog-standard lazer printer paper you encounter every day. It rarely bleed through the page, unless it was super cheap paper. It did have a lot of show through on the other side of the page, but not due to the ink absorbing into the paper too much, just because the paper was thin and it was a stark contrast.
Perhaps your feed needs adjustment? Could be that it is writing too wet.
@@YR7A I don't know. I'm from India. Maybe he formulated the ink specifically for the paper there?
@@aadityakiran_s Maybe. I don't know. You could try using it on a few different paper grades.
remarkable blue
Is it true that this ink fades in notebooks/journals? I bought this ink and I really love it.
If you write on highly bleached paper...please note that on the label it says the ink is vulnerable to bleach (in fact, it pretty much will vanish off most things with household bleach). There have been two examples of a paper with so much bleaching agent to make it "super bright" that it reduced the contrast of the ink by at least 10% when I looked at it with a scope. If you use regular, less costly paper (I buy Georgia Pacific, 88 brightness, plain copy paper...for $2.35 a ream...it is THE best paper in my opinion) you might be getting a far more durable combination of ink and paper. Note also, it has an odd effect on thermal paper and will "halo" most thermal papers. Hope this information helps.
I just had a fanboy moment when I saw that you replied to my question. Thank you Nathan for the reply. I mostly use cheap paper anyway, so I guess the bleaching property wouldn't be a problem. And yes, I tried to write on a thermal paper using BSB and to be honest, I think the effect looks cool. Keep on rocking, Mr. Tardif!
are there any extra fine nib replacements for the eyedropper pen that comes with noodler's 4.5 oz bottles ??
You can gentle work down the sides of the nib with about 40 cents worth of auto body work 600 abrasive paper. Use a magnifying glass...you can customize that nib to a needle point that is finer than any available at any store....writing with a hairline as thin as a paper fiber if that is your pleasure. No need to spend any more than that...just be careful to evenly polish off material on both outer nib tines.
Anybody who references the work of Milton Friedman is alright by me!
Thomas Sowell , Walter Williams,
Those pens are not profitable nor are they going to be....the whole concept was to get people to consider a dropper bottle, eyedropper filling systems as being competitive if not better than the wasteful disposable roller pens. I said before that they were free and without markup, included with the bottle and equivalent in ink to 75 of the $3 disposable pens at the big box stores. To expand demand for a free pen when I can't even keep up and can't hire or expand in any way? It's tough. ;-(
Nathan, I have a 4.5 oz bottle of BSB comiing in the mail and will be dedicating one of my vintage Parker pens to it. The pen I really want to put it into is a Parker "51" vacumatic, but I have one question for you. Will the chemistry you used in the BSB eventually attack the aluminum body of the vacumatic pump? If so, then I'll use this ink in one of my "21"s. I'm not worried about any negative reactions with the ink sacs; just the body of the pump in the "51"s. I believe that the richness of BSB will fit nicely with the "vintage pen" idea because back in the 1940s a;nd early 50s, black and blue inks were about the main inks available.....except for red, which was pretty much left to the accountants and bankers for their account books. When I was growing up (1947 to 1965) red ink was not allowed for signing one's checks and/or legal papers. Guess that was an early form of discrimination. LOLOL. Anyway, my Parker "51" and I were both made in the USA in the last half of 1947 and it is my most prized pen. Thank you for your time and thank you for this video. It has put my mind at ease on staining. Staining isn't the end of the world, but corrosion on my vacumatic pump MIGHT be. LOLOL. I have an Ahab pen and several of your inks in other colors and they are all great. Keep on making your excellent products and keep telling it like it is. I am a retired enlisted man from the US armed forces (22 years) and I LIKE your straight forward way of speaking.
Aluminum Parker vac fillers....that brings back memories. I would suggest making certain you have a good diaphragm in that vacumatic and any vacumatic you intend to use a lot. Those aluminum parts are vulnerable to a LOT...say, if the diaphragm has a leak in it and you rinsed the pen out with tap water...and it sits there for many years - the moisture can get trapped with the air and cause corrosion over time simply because of the exposure to constant moisture and air. However, if the diaphragm is sound and you test it about once a year (I had a turkey baster bulb that was fitted to seal on the ends of Parker vacs and I would test to see if air bubbles could pass through...if even the smallest air bubble passes through slowly 2 or 3 times once you reach about 5 psi..chances are you needed to replace the diaphragm...if many air bubbles passed through - you should have replaced it long ago!) - then a sound vac diaphragm will enable the pen to utilize as many inks as an Ahab. Vac tools are still pretty affordable and vac diaphragms are still available - it is a fairly straightforward thing to do...no more complex than changing a car tire though with far less energy involved.
@gfrank98 Please see earlier reply to this question.
What do you think is the most contrasting blue ink made, as you mentioned that there were more contrasting inks before baystate blue.
The most contrast in blue currently made IMO IS Baystate Blue. On some papers it has such intensity that it is akin to a visual explosion of contrast once the line is formed upon that white background. There were some vintage inks that were slightly more intense, but they were always prohibitively costly (and are rare to this day, my vintage ink collection had a bottle of an incredibly intense blue from about 1934...but I needed college tuition more than I needed the ink and it has never been found again since to replace itself). Some of the 1930s-40s Carter's "Contrast Series" (yes, they actually called them "contrast inks") rivaled the intensity. The magic of Baystate Blue is both in the contrast/intensity as well as availability. It is possible to make it at the current time. There have been a few scares that it was "ending/running out", but thus far...it is meeting demand and still available.
+InkNeedLastForever Thank you, I didn't expect such a quick reply.
InkNeedLastForever Hello Nathan,
I have lost count on how many times I have viewed this video as it continues to inspire me each time. I wish I had more instructors in College like you teaching then when I was in school. I had a few good ones but they were very rare. Keep up your inspired thoughts and hopefully pass your knowledge on to the newbies, who will continue after we are gone. Warmest regards.
I have this ink. The color is beautiful. Is it bulletproof? Can I use it to write checks etc? rhank you.
no.
Michael Vargo It is not bulletproof, but a person would have to use bleach to remove it from a check. The check would then be useless to the forger as the bleach would remove many of the printed features on the check as well!
Ahgghh...earlier today I filled a new converter I received in the mail with some Baystate Blue and put it on my favorite Parker Vector. I did NOT clean the Vectors nib mechanism before putting on the ink filled converter. There was Parker washable blue in a cartridge before that. Will the Baystate Blue eventually run through the nib mechanism and come out ok or should I remove the converter from the nib and clean it? Thanks in advance for any and all help.
If it hesitates, rinse it out a few times with tap water and then refill. Sometimes nothing happens and you won't even notice - but if the old ink had a radically different pH or chemical makeup...you'll have to rinse it a bit more.
Don't really know how to contact you, but I have a quick question about the BSB. How does it work with denatured alcohol? In a pinch I made my own layout fluid (commercial version is called Dykem) using BSB and denatured alcohol and some shellac. Has worked quite well though I am not sure, but I feel that it's going more light blue with time. Maybe it does not like the denatured alcohol?
It does not do well with UV light....if the item has intense exposure to UV light over a long period of time - it can fade. It also completely goes away with household bleach. It resists a lot, but I never put the "bulletproof" label on it...because it does not resist bleach and long term UV light. We did find out that it resists laser forgery better than any other ink, however (article in the Economist several years ago). So - it is pretty nice for check writing.
Glenn Marcus does not speak fondly of this spectacular blue. Does it in fact stain and/or damage translucent plastic feeds? I haven't tried a creaper yet so perhaps I should try it in a rollerball pen. Now that I've fallen in love with fountain pens - excuse me, Noodler's fountain pens - my hands stay pretty disgraceful most of the time. I think that's why god made retirement; so we can get good and messy. But seriously though - should this ink require surgical gloves always?
Laurie
I only get it on my hands when it is being made for you...it has been very well behaved in my pens (but I'm always topping them off full - don't like air bubbles that expand whenever it is 5 degrees outside and 68 inside...in winter it is a good habit to avoid permitting large air bubbles to generate from use without a refill to keep them a controllable size, as the heat expands the bubble..etc..).
john galt is nathan tardif.
Chuck Norris ink!
Excellent book, there. Gotta love Milton.
Are you still doing the thing with sending in the label?
More labels are outstanding now than Baystate Blue prize pens. Please, people....look at your labels! Does it say "Made in Taxachusetts"? That means you can claim a pen that we can't replicate...it is made of a material that is no longer available...once gone - they are gone forever. We have updated the statement below the video to reflect economic issues beyond our control...but please rest assured...are fighting back behind the scenes to keep costs stable that we can control!
The color looks great! I'm about to start using fountain pens, and would like to use Baystate Blue. I'm not concerned about staining of demonstrators, though I wonder if there is an unpleasant smell (like of a Sharpie) while writing with this ink?
I really wanted this specific ink, but I read that it damages the feeds of fountain pens. That particular problem was not addressed in the video.
I read it also caused a "Baystate Blue War" online somewhere. I can say with absolute authority that it has never damaged a feed of any Noodler's pen... Now there was a pen manufactured in central Europe that had a recall because their feeds were unable to deal with any alkaline solution of any kind and certain people slandered others for a manufacturing defect on a public forum - despite the fact that it was the fault of that central European manufacturer (whose feeds were so inferior they failed with some of their own inks). It is also slightly amusing that that manufacturer's issues - which I believe you are referencing...happened AFTER this video was made....so am I supposed to get a time machine and correct the errors of another manufacturer to boot? Some pens use the most tried and tested feed material in the history of pens - ebonite...it costs more to make a feed of ebonite and it is far more difficult than injection molding one of plastic. That another manufacturer failed to test their plastic stock and then had to yank those feeds from the market...you want to blame on the innocent party. Ebonite feeds work with the most inks - just as a car should run on any gasoline. A car specific to one brand of gasoline is a pretty useless car..and a pen specific to one brand of ink is a pretty useless pen.
Just take the demons out.
I really want to try this colour ink out. Is the label offer still running by any chance?
Will you guys ever make a non demonstrator rollerball pen?
I am trying to find affordable roller tips. The Swiss increased their prices dramatically and until they are replaced the variety of new re-fillable rollerball designs waits on affordability. Unlike fountain pen nibs, ink rollers wear out fast - sometimes within months. If the replacement tip is affordable, it will be made available....but if it is too costly, try/try/try again...
InkNeedLastForever
Yeah, I've briefly looked there's not a whole lot of options out there in the market. Although I'm sure you'll find a way!
+InkNeedLastForever Will the current Konrad rollerball replacement tips fit in the Platinum Preppy marker housing? If not do you know where I could find a rollerball tip that would fit? Thank you for everything you do!
Is it safe to use Baystate blue on TWSBI eco ?
From what I have been told, that company likes us.... & they apparently like Noodler's Black most of all. It rinses off plastic with tap water yet is bulletproof on paper. I'm also openly pro-Taiwan for what that is worth. I've tested Baystate Blue in a few of their pens and it writes/performs fine...however, the question really is....is your pen for use or is it just a museum piece? If you want to just use the pen - then go ahead and use the ink that pleases you. Baystate Blue rinses out with tap water...but if it stains remember it can be removed with bleach/common water. It likes to stain silicon grease lubricant, for example...but silicone grease is easily replaced and costs about $2 a tub in the plumbing section of the hardware store. I tend to use Baystate Blue in one pen on one side of my pocket and whatever other ink I like that day in the other pocket (most frequently Noodler's Black)....because sometimes, every now and then...Baystate Blue writes where other inks don't on unusual surfaces. The color and contrast are so fantastic that it still amazes me every time it starts a line on the page despite years that have passed...so the enjoyment of the ink itself is always worth having it in a pen.
Would this ink work well in a Lamy Vista/ Safari or Al-Star? Would you recommend dedicating a pen to this ink?
I've heard comments that due to its properties and staining that you wouldn't want to use this ink in any high end pens, (unless you're willing to dedicate that pen) now I'm not gonna get a haute writing instrument just yet, but the question still stands...
+lifelessperson1993 I write with Noodler's pens and some vintage pens...if staining worries you - don't use it. Bleach can remove the stains, but it will only re-stain later as you use it again. It is an ink that stains.... I have never understood the "humidor pens" that get set aside and never used except with the weakest bathwater inks available....if they are ever used at all.
lifelessperson1993
I have this ink in my Ocean Blue Al Star and I love it. I got one of his Preppy eyedropper with ballpoints and a waterbrush pen like this video shows. I still have the ballpoint one and swap its nib out regularly so people can try this ink. It's my favorite ink. I know it by smell. And fun to see what it does to thermal paper.
Hope you decide to use it. Buy an inexpensive pen and dedicate if you're worried. But I am very happy with it in an al-star. Cheers.