To be fair. Its called a shock. She couldn't handle it at the time. Eventually she does tho. Cat maybe was a bit harsh with the reaction but she still is the best partner for him. Mj is purely selfish. Gwen is 2nd n silk is 3rd.
@@angelj.cadena4890 MJ is selfish? What comics or what media have you seen? Lol, Cat is logically toxic for him even tho she’s learned to accept him beyond his mask is current comics but still. MJ will always be best, Gwen was also great for him but she got killed off too soon.
@@angelj.cadena4890 why do you judge MJ's character by just watching Sam Raimi's Spiderman trilogy??? Go and read the comics properly!!! She is thousand times more better than all the girls who had relation with Spider-Man... And you say that she is selfish??? For God sake... She is one of the most selfless person of Spiderman Comic Series!!! Her biggest sacrifice in life was to support Peter in selling his marriage to Mephisto so that Peter doesn't have more guilt in heart, like that of Uncle Ben and Gwen... If it was Black Cat in her please do you think she would have led that happen?? If you like Black Cat then I can't change your mind... But please don't insult some best characters like MJ without knowing the whole truth!!
@@angelj.cadena4890 Selfish? i assume you've only watched the raimi trilogy, and by your information.MJ id nowhere to be selfish in the comic, jeez atleast try to do some research lmao
@@Starsdealer she didnt love peter and never did,she only liked Spider-Man because she was turned on by the mystery,that’s why Mary Jane was perfect for peter,cause she loved peter weather he’s Spider-Man or not
Fun Fact: Originally this plot-line was going to be used in Spider-man 2 as a contrast to Peters desire to give up being Spider-man. Would love to see this explored in a movie and shame this wasn't explored in any of the shows.
I think this is another reason why I love Spider-Man. At the end of the day, after saving the day, he is Peter Parker, a nerd kid from Queens who got powers from an unintentional accident.
That just goes to show you Stan Lee and Steve Ditko’s intentions with the character. Spider-Man isn’t just a mantle to Peter Parker exclusivity. Anyone could’ve got bitten by that spider that day. It was never Peters fate, anyone could have wore the mask and became Spider-Man
@@alexisislas-gonzalez5991 Especially before Mephisto. Silk and Spider Totems were ok. Mephisto or his actual name, Joe Quesada has forever scarred the character in a way that should’ve been impossible.
@@tyreemcqueen1514wrong. The point of the mask is a sense of mystery to an outsider. Also, not everyone who gains powers would automatically become heroes.
@@yungquaalude336 No, Peter's Origin Story is he was a normal teenager that got bit by a radioactive spider, him being poor or being an orphan has nothing to do with his origin.
My tinder experience is you gotta be rich, you have to be over 6ft, you got to have friends and you must be super model good looking in order to go out on a date so yeah if you want a date then don’t go out looking for it online. if you don’t meet those girls requirements then they will reject you, lol.
@@SolaireKnightus It's funny because all I hear is how beauty standards are impossible for women, yet when I checked my friends tinder it was filled with nothing but shallow women wanting rich tall guys. Even as a tall gay guy myself, I started to actually feel bad for the average hetero man.
@@Diamond_2403@5150 productions I'm aware. Most comic characters are designed to be relatable to a certain audience. Daredevil to disabled, punisher to veterans etc
This is why Parker never married Black Cat. MJ and Gwen before her loved Peter Parker. Eventually Felicia grows up more and realizes how much of a idiot she was, but by then Spidey is with MJ firmly then.
I wished there was a universe where they get together. It’s getting really boring 9/10 universes were MJ and Peter. Just stop. Multiverse is an endless possibility my ass.
@@cunnyman Well, i guess it just happens that Black Cat in her younger years not being only in it for the thrill and adventure of it all and disregarding the existance of Peter Parker entirely is simply an unlikely scenario.
It's super cool how they characterize Black Cat when he takes off the mask. Not cool in that the character itself is "cool" but more so that it makes perfect sense that she'd react like that. If I recall correctly, she absolutely hates her alter ego, and she only really enjoy being the crazy, adventurous, and exciting Black Cat. She can't even begin to handle the idea of a real identity.
C'mon man that was her characterisation 40 years ago. Felicia's grown up since then to be a self-confident super-thief. She even fell in love with Peter as the years went by, but by then there was no chance cuz of MJ. Even then, she remains a close confidante and friend of Peter when he needs support the most, even if she's still secretly in love with him
@@nexus7034 bruh you can't compare modern Eddie Brock to 80's Black Cat, that's not a fair comparison. Felicia is flirty but she's grown up a lot since then, just take a look at Spencer's Kraven arc to see her shine and look after Doc Connor's kid during the whole ordeal.
This, this right here is what made me fall in love the Felicia Hardy/black cat’s character. To me this differentiated her from Catwoman. At her core Catwoman, Selena Kyle is a good person that loves and cares about Bruce Wayne. Felicia, black cat, she’s the girl your mother warns you about. She’s the girl Drake sings about. Black cat is a heart breaker, she is shallow, who doesn’t understand the responsibility that comes with power. I don’t think she’s a at her core a bad person she’s just too flawed to ever be with peter. Thats why i love her character. She feels real. I feel like we all know a Felicia. A larger than life girl who’s played with our hearts. Someone we had to change ourselves for or hide a part of ourselves for. I hope she is featured in the next Spiderman movies, I think she would be the perfect foil for both MJ and peter. Someone who’s abandoned the responsibility of power and someone who doesn’t love peter for peter.
People can't stand someone saying meaningful things on the internet, but don't mind it. You should never be ashamed of being the smartest person in the room.
@@smokeystudios6754 I love how someone can't even point out there are bad women you need to look out for without idiots treating them like an Elliot Rogers.
@@therahay6849 I mean, the video is about the main continuity. Also a large portion of the fan base would disagree about MJ, she's the most fleshed out love interest Peter's ever had.
Black Cat and Peter's relationship is pretty fascinating to me. Because yes this may make it look like Black Cat and Peter are a complete 100% no-go and it will never work out, but it's a little more complex than that, especially after Felicia starts to change and even warms up to the idea of _Peter Parker_ and cares for him and not just Spider-Man, a lot of times she legitimately cares for him and tries to be better and use her powers for good for him. Due to the nature of comic books they always have to return back to a status quo, so their relationship is never allowed to truly develop to the end, but I would _love_ to see an entire story in its own contained reality where Peter and Felicia manage to make their relationship work out, because it _can_ work, Felicia _does_ change and she does start to care about Peter, but it's more complex than Gwen or MJ and that's what I love about it.
Felicia may not love Peter as MJ or Gwen did, but with me she is always be a beautiful couple with Peter, she's not only Peter's lover, she is also his great teammate Spidey ❤ Black Cat always in my heart ❤❤❤
@Shin Shaman Bruh Black Cat's a thrill seeker and Catwoman is in it for the money And there both had a completely different reactions to there BF's secret identity being revealed
This is exactly why I love Licia, she is such an imperfect woman. She has faults and have made errors but she learned from them, because in the end, she loved this person, this Peter Parker who happens to be Spiderman and wanted to do good to him, even if she knows she may have lose her chance with him. She is way too complex to only be one of the "Spiderman's love interests", as much as Gwen and MJ are cool, they can't grow apart from that role, Felicia is her own character with her own development and just happens to be on of Spiderman's love interest.
Spider-Man: "I'm an orphan, I didn't have friends in school, I got bit by a spider that gave me powers but then my uncle got murdered because of my actions, I trust you with my identity and I love you" Black Cat: "Ewww, put your mask back on" Oh hell no, Peter she's for the streets.
Not in the new amazing spiderman comics black cat and peter are dating again and mj has kids that aren't even hers or the man the she with 😂😂😂 it's retarted af also felica actually loves him as both peter and spiderman
@@Web-Slinger42 I'm actually glad stan lee isn't here to see how they ruined ome of his beloved characters it's straight arse I just read issue #31 felica and peter are back and forth of oh should be a couple or not ☠☠☠ forget my last comment mj still has no kids tho
This comic really hurt to read, because it reminded me too much of myself. I was with a girl once who was like me, we both loved the thrill of danger, of being so close to the edge that some people thought we were crazy, but eventually she didn't want to anymore, she decided to slow down, but I couldn't, I didn't know how. So she left, and by the time I finally hit the brakes, she was with someone else.
And people say Black Cat is better for Peter/Spider-Man than Mary Jane. Granted she is cooler and I do admit I love how she is a foil to his nature, but MJ loves and respects both identities. Black Cat just loves one of the identities and can’t love or accept the other. Regardless of the mask and the snark, Spider-Man will always be Peter Parker inside. The fact Black Cat was disappointed in his home was strike 1, her screaming for Peter to put his mask back on to go back to her mystery man after he opened his heart and soul to her was strike 2, her admitting this to his face was strike 3. At the end of the day, Felicia Hardy would never accept the Peter Parker aspect of Spider-Man’s life. It was the thrill of the mystery, the thrill of their fights/interactions that made her love him. Not who he really is or why he does what he does.
Bruh peeps be talking like this is how Black Cat is nowadays when this is a comic from the 80's. She's grown to love Peter Parker for who he is, it's confirmed in her POV sometime during Spencer's run, but knows she could never have him with MJ here. It's a classic example of growing up too late, the best thing you had now is with someone else. Even still, despite knowing she can never be with the man she loves, she remains one of Peter's best confidants and friends, someone he can rely on for emotional and superhero support. I would say Black Cat has come quite a long way since then
The voice acting is surprisingly good! The camera passes and the edits are excellent. I had this exact issue of Spider-Man when I was a kid in the 80s'! This is soo cool to see with voice acting, and music. Well done. Peter being Spider-Man always messed up his realationships with women; Gwen was killed by Green Goblin, Mary jane broke up with him before this era. So with Peter being Spider-Man more after dropping out of graduate school, and spending time with Felicia as the Black Cat would have been so great for him. But when he took her to his apartment, and and took off his mask and reveled his true identity, she freaked. She loved him as Spider-Man only! What a totally weird twist!
@@ckludecke So, what are you saying? could she love Peter as plain old Peter? I mean, you might tell me off as a romantic but I believe that you can't truly love someone unless you love every aspect of the person. I only said that she was the best considering that she can keep up with Spider-Man. Unlike Mary Jane, what I mean is that she would never try to make him give up being Spidey, but in the end he is a package deal as Peter and Spider-Man. I say this because I think he deserves happiness and to get rid of his rotten Parker luck.
She doesn't love Peter Parker, but she doesn't love Spider-Man either, she loves the idea of Spider-Man, her delusions of Spider-Man, she has a fetish for him. With that being said when she left out my window and told me to come with her I would never have left. She would have been swinging by herself.
Unironically, I believe this specific comic panel should be read by EVERY man who is chasing the wrong girl. A lot of guys nowadays spend so much time, energy and HARD EARNED money to get nude pictures of women who capitalize off their desperation to feel validated by an attractive person. Or worse, change themselves entirely to keep a person happy just so they can stay in a relationship that is ultimately one sided. Peter loved Black Cat, sure, but it was borne out of an immature chase of validation. That the Spider-Man side of him was infinitely more fun. He could just abandon all the responsibilities of Peter Parker, be a hero, date a hot girl and live his dreams. But that’s not who he is. He doesn’t just hold onto his responsibility as Spider-Man, but as Peter Parker. A beloved nephew, friend, hard worker and eventually husband of MJ. A *good man.* So I say this to any young boy, or men my age, that is currently pursuing a woman. Please remember not to lose yourself in pursuit of someone. It is the single most vulnerable thing a person can do, and it will be very difficult to come back from it when it doesn’t work out. Be yourself, stay a good man with your morals and aspirations. And I promise you, the right person will come along.
This is why Black Cat will never truly be compatible with Spider-Man. Not only does she not really love him for who he is, but she fundamentally misunderstands why he does what he does. She's only in love with the mask and the thrill that comes with it, not the person wearing it. It's like loving a shadow. And to be honest, if you don't love Peter Parker, then you don't really love Spider-Man either.
When I saw this in my recommendations I already knew this going to go south for Peter *Black Cat aka Felicia Hardy loves Spiderman not Peter Parker , Mary Jane loves Peter Parker not Spiderman she actually loathes his responsibility to the costume but bears it anyway because she truly loves him* This goes to show Black Cat is not a Waifu Peter can't be Spiderman 24/7 he needs to breathe.
@@djdarore2514 Now that one is complicated Peter Parker and Cindy Moon got bit by the same super spider, at first Cindy was pissed off at Peter for releasing her from a bunker that left her undetectable to Morlun, but sometime after they was drawn to each other because the two produce the pheromones that forcibly connected them in many ways, I think Silk cared for Peter even drawn to him because of their shared connection but it's hard to say that they love each other because of their biologically enhanced situation, I heard in another universe they fell for each other and had kids and Mary Jane disappeared to another country permanently as some kind of journalist but that's all I remember, I don't even remember how that ends.
@@djdarore2514 No prob man also you can follow Comicstorian he reads and narrate all kinds of comics Marvel, DC etc, I like the spiderman series but I'm more DC Universe though here's his link you won't regret it, ruclips.net/video/e4JvBh-xvQQ/видео.html
Black Cat has given her superpowers a sole purpose to make the bad-guys do not what to do and freaking out when the bad-luck coming towards the bad-guys.
I find the scene ironic since years later in spiders current run she actually remembers his secret identity and is a lot more chill about it guess OMD did gives us something worth while along with tidalwave of BS but I digress
Man the writing was so damn good, and I can’t get enough of these spidey narrations they’re just too damn amazing and you do a good job at portraying the emotion and scenario
5:18 I important?! The guy bared his soul to you, let you know who he is and it's all important?! Unbelievable. And she wonders why it didn't work out? I don't know why. Just drop her right then and there. This is one of the many reasons why she was the wrong choice for Peter
@@miketheeditor4798oh come on man that’s not fair to her she’s a person doesn’t she atleast deserve to grow and accept him I mean so what if it was a bad situation on her they grow up together Peter and mj broke up and got together Felicia should learn to you know their gonna be great together some universe you know
Love it. Can you do one from Spectaculars 90-91 and Symbiote #1,3 and 5? This video is overally spectacular. From the voices and the sound effects, even that spider-sense sound and screaming on 7:06.
Great work with the music and voices. Thier relationship is really intresting. But man it whould hurt to be Peter. To get the comment put the mask back on. - "Am I that ugly?" She got to understand him better later but she really was blinded by the idea of Spider-man not the person beneath.
This is much more complex than how it is remembered in comic book history. People normally talk about how felicia was simply disgusted with peters true life, but as we see here, the real issue was that pete wasnt sure which side of his was true. Not unlike bruce wayne being a mask for batman and superman being a public face for clark kent - spider man imo is really just a release for peter parker.
Reason 1 why I really am annoyed when people want them to be a “thing” and history has show they’re better as friends and not this toxic idea of a relationship
First, 1:26-1:43 was a missed opportunity to dub the captions in your best Stan Lee impersonation. I'm certainly not alone on this, but I've always likened Spidey and Cat's relationship to that of Batman and Catwoman. Both couples are at their best when they're forbidden, unable to fully share their lives with each other. Otherwise it'd interfere with Spidey and Bat's devotion to the cities they love and the Cats' addiction to the thrill of the chase, respectively.
I really always think that Black Cat is now a Superheroine to me because she does not want to feel lonely if she still bad-girl in the eyes of Spider-man and other Superheroes.
@@alex-om9qf well...i will be just here as you waiting for an answer...although this person posted it 7 months ago and still didn't answered. Well...in fact, you're question have only 13 minutes since it's been posted, so, it's normal, lmao.
The reason I use the soundtrack from "My Hero Academia" is because the creator of the series is a Spider-Man fan himself. It's also thanks to these guys on Deviantart. They're drawing all of Spider-Man's characters in the style of My Hero Academia. It looks really cool. Link to DuckLordEthan: www.deviantart.com/ducklordethan Link to Void-Wolf: www.deviantart.com/void-wolf
Same, everyone's talking about how *good* of a "relationship" this is when in reality its not. It's one-sided and toxic not to mention I think that Felicia's emotionally cheating on Peter with Spider-Man. It's like she's having an affair with two different men who're one in the same. She's addicted to being Black Cat and the power that it gives her. EDIT- And not to mention that Peter's become a little more dominant then how he was as a teenager. Two Alpha personalities will just constantly bump heads and never get anything done because their so stubborn. EDIT 2- I ship Spider-Man and Black Cat but I only ship the two entities alone. I don't ship Peter and Felicia. I'm more of a MJ kind of girl. Gwen Stacy-First Love Felicia Hardy-Rebound lover MJ-True Love
Peter Parker is Spider-Man. The quips, the tech, the responsability. There is no Spider-Man without Peter Parker. I suppose what could be considered toxic is her rejection of the unmasked Spider-Man, the one without the mystery and the confidence. Her rejection could be interpreted as her refusal to be with Peter when he's not at his highest, when he is vulnerable. It might be reading too much into it though. At the end of the day, Spider-Man is the true Peter Parker. The expression of his goodness, of his selflessness. Like Peter said, his past relationship's failed because of Spider-Man, because those women loved Peter, or rather, the front that Peter put on, so maybe he needs someone who loves his true, noble self. Considering who Felicia is and what she does, it's not surprising that she felt repulsed by Peter's humbleness, that she could not immediately bridge the gap between this heroic, intelligent, skilled guy and the squalor he lives in. It's like putting your hand over a candle and you feel cold. Honestly there's room to argue. You may not believe that Spider-Man is Peter's true form, in which case this rejection should prove fatal, but I for one think that Peter and Felicia are possible. While Felicia may lack in a sense of duty and responsability, Peter more than makes up for it, arguably to an unhealthy degree. I think they could stand to learn from each other.
@@Gemini053 i like Peter with Mary Jane watson because she loves him alot to the point where she can put up with him being spiderman Peter parker and black cat are too toxic because she loves spiderman but not Peter parker and that is no relationship i would want to be in if i was Peter
Man, this reminds me of the whole Joker obsessing over the Bat, the mythological figure that has gripped Gotham, and how knowing his secret identity would, like, ruin the punchline..... Granted that's only in some stories, it's never really consistent XD
You know after seeing this comic dub it Made me realize that maybe just maybe when the next Spider-Man movie comes a fourth one I hope maybe black cat cat actually be in that movie and that would be something like still a new beginning for Spider-Man Tom Holland knowing he met a new sweetheart who in a way it’s like an equal to him.
I wanna see this in the next triology, watch holland go all in as spidey and be blind with symbiote and black cat and just maybe he’ll run into MJ again and then get a hit of nostalgia of why it’s all about who’s behind the mask not the mask itself
Wow this was very well done. I listen to audio books and radio shows but before this hadnt heard any well produced comic book readings with sincere performances and accurate sfx. Ive also read this comic before butt his time wont forget it. Good job :D
Damn, He bared his soul out and got that reaction. Props to the actors for how well they conveyed the character’s emotions
Tru
To be fair. Its called a shock. She couldn't handle it at the time. Eventually she does tho. Cat maybe was a bit harsh with the reaction but she still is the best partner for him. Mj is purely selfish. Gwen is 2nd n silk is 3rd.
@@angelj.cadena4890 MJ is selfish? What comics or what media have you seen? Lol, Cat is logically toxic for him even tho she’s learned to accept him beyond his mask is current comics but still. MJ will always be best, Gwen was also great for him but she got killed off too soon.
@@angelj.cadena4890 why do you judge MJ's character by just watching Sam Raimi's Spiderman trilogy??? Go and read the comics properly!!! She is thousand times more better than all the girls who had relation with Spider-Man... And you say that she is selfish??? For God sake... She is one of the most selfless person of Spiderman Comic Series!!! Her biggest sacrifice in life was to support Peter in selling his marriage to Mephisto so that Peter doesn't have more guilt in heart, like that of Uncle Ben and Gwen... If it was Black Cat in her please do you think she would have led that happen?? If you like Black Cat then I can't change your mind... But please don't insult some best characters like MJ without knowing the whole truth!!
@@angelj.cadena4890 Selfish? i assume you've only watched the raimi trilogy, and by your information.MJ id nowhere to be selfish in the comic, jeez atleast try to do some research lmao
Damn dude, black cat's response was hurtful after peter revealed himself.
To be fair she was feeling sad n showing sympathy at first
It really did hurt 💔......
Fr man she playin with my boy Peter heart
@@Starsdealer she didnt love peter and never did,she only liked Spider-Man because she was turned on by the mystery,that’s why Mary Jane was perfect for peter,cause she loved peter weather he’s Spider-Man or not
@@sneakslolll9264 "she did love peter and never did"
Fun Fact: Originally this plot-line was going to be used in Spider-man 2 as a contrast to Peters desire to give up being Spider-man. Would love to see this explored in a movie and shame this wasn't explored in any of the shows.
Another fun fact: That plot line ended up being used in the game for Spider-Man 2. And it was pretty damn sweet.
@@fours1524 True, but even then, it felt rushed.
I think it would’ve been explored if we got a Spiderman 4
@@djdarore2514 Or maybe in the 4th MCU Spider-Man film after No Way Home.
@@berandom2000 true true it would be exciting to see
The voice of Black Cat here is impeccable...
she has a great voice.
*Sorry doesn't pay the RENT*
@@kingavila7584 YOULL GET YOUR RENT WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR
@@Spider-Man-ox7sz I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye.
@@RUclipsCommenter1st Stings doesn’t it
When you realise that the Joker would act like this if Batman took his mask off
Oh yeah
Underrated comment
Where’s my goddamn electric car Bruce?
Watch the Harley Quinn show if you can. I'd be more direct but, spoilers.
To be fair, Batman is himself when he is Batman, Bruce Wayne is the fiction and his fake social life. Spiderman is a little different
This is what a damaged woman looks like. Only fantasy and thrills. No time for reality
True. It’s sad and immature
@@colebrown4927 nah let them be. they eventually fall into whoever is right for them
Sup dawg
Who would be the gate keeper for the next Game and will you not be stopped until the gamers are free
Spiderman needs to listen to J. Cole when he said “Don’t save her, she don’t wanna be saved”.
@@thebootycheeks6230 Which would be an innocent, kind man and his life would get screwed
I think this is another reason why I love Spider-Man. At the end of the day, after saving the day, he is Peter Parker, a nerd kid from Queens who got powers from an unintentional accident.
Before any spider totems and silk
And mephisto
That just goes to show you Stan Lee and Steve Ditko’s intentions with the character. Spider-Man isn’t just a mantle to Peter Parker exclusivity. Anyone could’ve got bitten by that spider that day. It was never Peters fate, anyone could have wore the mask and became Spider-Man
@@alexisislas-gonzalez5991 Especially before Mephisto. Silk and Spider Totems were ok.
Mephisto or his actual name, Joe Quesada has forever scarred the character in a way that should’ve been impossible.
@@tyreemcqueen1514wrong. The point of the mask is a sense of mystery to an outsider.
Also, not everyone who gains powers would automatically become heroes.
@@doncheadlegaming7521Silk is a waste of space, and the totems could have been reduced.
3:07 - 4:34 This speech explains Spider-Man's character so perfectly.
I mean it’s literally his origin story😂
The true spider-man identity
2:58
*Sorry doesn't pay the RENT 🤬*
@@yungquaalude336 yeah lol
@@yungquaalude336 No, Peter's Origin Story is he was a normal teenager that got bit by a radioactive spider, him being poor or being an orphan has nothing to do with his origin.
If she can't accept your worst
She does not deserve your best
When you take home your tinder date and she sees your life
Oh man that hurts more than I thought it could 😂😂😂
My tinder experience is you gotta be rich, you have to be over 6ft, you got to have friends and you must be super model good looking in order to go out on a date so yeah if you want a date then don’t go out looking for it online. if you don’t meet those girls requirements then they will reject you, lol.
@@SolaireKnightus It's funny because all I hear is how beauty standards are impossible for women, yet when I checked my friends tinder it was filled with nothing but shallow women wanting rich tall guys. Even as a tall gay guy myself, I started to actually feel bad for the average hetero man.
@@Mr.YasQueen ye but thats tinder and online dating
@@velumadhavsanthanam6354 It's real life also not just online dating.
3:07-4:30 most emotional spider-man's speech i ever heard
That's why he's the best superhero
And cat threw it in his face. Big yikes.
@@lastmanstanding7155 that’s why Mary Jane is better lol
@@sneakslolll9264 sad Gwen noises
@@obitouchiha2581 you haven’t read the comic “one more day” huh
I love that peter has personal problems. It makes him relatable
That's literally the entire point of Peter Parker's character.
That's the whole point of spider-man's character
Sounds like you’re paraphrasing off of something (our beloved) Stan lee said.
@@Diamond_2403@5150 productions I'm aware. Most comic characters are designed to be relatable to a certain audience. Daredevil to disabled, punisher to veterans etc
Literally the reason he's the most interesting super hero to me. I don't care about villains or powers but his personal dilemma is so interesting
This comic makes Strange saying "She's not your girlfriend BECAUSE you're Spider-Man, right?" hit way different
This is why Parker never married Black Cat. MJ and Gwen before her loved Peter Parker.
Eventually Felicia grows up more and realizes how much of a idiot she was, but by then Spidey is with MJ firmly then.
I wished there was a universe where they get together.
It’s getting really boring 9/10 universes were MJ and Peter. Just stop. Multiverse is an endless possibility my ass.
@@cunnyman Well, i guess it just happens that Black Cat in her younger years not being only in it for the thrill and adventure of it all and disregarding the existance of Peter Parker entirely is simply an unlikely scenario.
@@cunnyman web of shadows is your only chance
In what comic was that?
@@luigitrippitelli2333
I don't know exactly, it's just something that slowly happened over time
Marvel studios really have their work cut out for them, adapting a world where spider-man's mask would be considered sexy.
24/7 CGI Spider-Man. Just need a voice and maybe a chin and mouth, lmao.
They've definitely fixed that since this comment
This is one of the best comic dubs I've seen. So much emotion!
*_I've turned you're 68 likes into 69 likes, you're welcome and no need to thank me it's what heroes do_*
It's super cool how they characterize Black Cat when he takes off the mask. Not cool in that the character itself is "cool" but more so that it makes perfect sense that she'd react like that. If I recall correctly, she absolutely hates her alter ego, and she only really enjoy being the crazy, adventurous, and exciting Black Cat. She can't even begin to handle the idea of a real identity.
She’s immature basically.
Even Eddie Brock realized he needed to grow up and be a father to his son. Felicia is just immature.
C'mon man that was her characterisation 40 years ago. Felicia's grown up since then to be a self-confident super-thief. She even fell in love with Peter as the years went by, but by then there was no chance cuz of MJ. Even then, she remains a close confidante and friend of Peter when he needs support the most, even if she's still secretly in love with him
@@nexus7034 bruh you can't compare modern Eddie Brock to 80's Black Cat, that's not a fair comparison.
Felicia is flirty but she's grown up a lot since then, just take a look at Spencer's Kraven arc to see her shine and look after Doc Connor's kid during the whole ordeal.
@@Junya01 you really like her don't you? 😆
This, this right here is what made me fall in love the Felicia Hardy/black cat’s character. To me this differentiated her from Catwoman. At her core Catwoman, Selena Kyle is a good person that loves and cares about Bruce Wayne. Felicia, black cat, she’s the girl your mother warns you about. She’s the girl Drake sings about. Black cat is a heart breaker, she is shallow, who doesn’t understand the responsibility that comes with power. I don’t think she’s a at her core a bad person she’s just too flawed to ever be with peter. Thats why i love her character. She feels real. I feel like we all know a Felicia. A larger than life girl who’s played with our hearts. Someone we had to change ourselves for or hide a part of ourselves for. I hope she is featured in the next Spiderman movies, I think she would be the perfect foil for both MJ and peter. Someone who’s abandoned the responsibility of power and someone who doesn’t love peter for peter.
The girl drake sings about 😂 get a grip
Who hurt you?
People can't stand someone saying meaningful things on the internet, but don't mind it. You should never be ashamed of being the smartest person in the room.
@@smokeystudios6754 I love how someone can't even point out there are bad women you need to look out for without idiots treating them like an Elliot Rogers.
@@thelonesurvivor3955 I don't know if that's a complement or an insult. Who is Eliot Rodgers?
Peter deserves someone who loves both sides of him: Peter Parker and Spider-Man.
Yeah and that's gwen stacy
@@therahay6849 Uhm, Gwen Stacy hated Spiderman lol
@@ManoVeneza not the ultimate one though.... although she was more of a big sis until near the end anyway everything is better than mj
@@therahay6849 I mean, the video is about the main continuity. Also a large portion of the fan base would disagree about MJ, she's the most fleshed out love interest Peter's ever had.
He had that with MJ and Marvel editorial ruined it.
Black Cat and Peter's relationship is pretty fascinating to me. Because yes this may make it look like Black Cat and Peter are a complete 100% no-go and it will never work out, but it's a little more complex than that, especially after Felicia starts to change and even warms up to the idea of _Peter Parker_ and cares for him and not just Spider-Man, a lot of times she legitimately cares for him and tries to be better and use her powers for good for him. Due to the nature of comic books they always have to return back to a status quo, so their relationship is never allowed to truly develop to the end, but I would _love_ to see an entire story in its own contained reality where Peter and Felicia manage to make their relationship work out, because it _can_ work, Felicia _does_ change and she does start to care about Peter, but it's more complex than Gwen or MJ and that's what I love about it.
Felicia may not love Peter as MJ or Gwen did, but with me she is always be a beautiful couple with Peter, she's not only Peter's lover, she is also his great teammate
Spidey ❤ Black Cat always in my heart ❤❤❤
@Shin Shaman nah bro, go cope
@Shin Shaman Bruh Black Cat's a thrill seeker and Catwoman is in it for the money
And there both had a completely different reactions to there BF's secret identity being revealed
This comment deserves to be pinned so it can be read by everyone else
This is exactly why I love Licia, she is such an imperfect woman. She has faults and have made errors but she learned from them, because in the end, she loved this person, this Peter Parker who happens to be Spiderman and wanted to do good to him, even if she knows she may have lose her chance with him.
She is way too complex to only be one of the "Spiderman's love interests", as much as Gwen and MJ are cool, they can't grow apart from that role, Felicia is her own character with her own development and just happens to be on of Spiderman's love interest.
Spider-Man: "I'm an orphan, I didn't have friends in school, I got bit by a spider that gave me powers but then my uncle got murdered because of my actions, I trust you with my identity and I love you"
Black Cat: "Ewww, put your mask back on"
Oh hell no, Peter she's for the streets.
Tbf she does grow to love and accept peter but he married mj by then
Not in the new amazing spiderman comics black cat and peter are dating again and mj has kids that aren't even hers or the man the she with 😂😂😂 it's retarted af also felica actually loves him as both peter and spiderman
@@Dripthos Yeah I heard about that, I wonder how Stan Lee would feel about that lmao.
@@Web-Slinger42 I'm actually glad stan lee isn't here to see how they ruined ome of his beloved characters it's straight arse I just read issue #31 felica and peter are back and forth of oh should be a couple or not ☠☠☠ forget my last comment mj still has no kids tho
Bully Maguire: I forgot the part where that's my problem.
ur not a true spiderman fan if u dont fix ur mistake
Mate.. please fix it!
if u dont fix ur mistake ill find ur mother and do something to her
@@undergroundplug3135 I fix my mistake when you fix this damn door!
U don't remember the exact lines. U r an embarrassment to Maguire.
She was expecting spidey to be some badass loner type with a spidercave lol nice. Seems like all catladies love batman.
5:31 that pause where he just stands there... should have ended the comic with him shutting the window lol.
"Fuck this shit"
I thought that's what he was gonna do tbh
@@liammahan4497 Same
This comic really hurt to read, because it reminded me too much of myself. I was with a girl once who was like me, we both loved the thrill of danger, of being so close to the edge that some people thought we were crazy, but eventually she didn't want to anymore, she decided to slow down, but I couldn't, I didn't know how. So she left, and by the time I finally hit the brakes, she was with someone else.
im sorry man, i guess that is life sometimes
That's literally the Black Cat arc right there, growing up too late. Even to this day she's still pining for Peter, hope you've moved on :)
And people say Black Cat is better for Peter/Spider-Man than Mary Jane. Granted she is cooler and I do admit I love how she is a foil to his nature, but MJ loves and respects both identities. Black Cat just loves one of the identities and can’t love or accept the other. Regardless of the mask and the snark, Spider-Man will always be Peter Parker inside. The fact Black Cat was disappointed in his home was strike 1, her screaming for Peter to put his mask back on to go back to her mystery man after he opened his heart and soul to her was strike 2, her admitting this to his face was strike 3. At the end of the day, Felicia Hardy would never accept the Peter Parker aspect of Spider-Man’s life. It was the thrill of the mystery, the thrill of their fights/interactions that made her love him. Not who he really is or why he does what he does.
Bruh peeps be talking like this is how Black Cat is nowadays when this is a comic from the 80's. She's grown to love Peter Parker for who he is, it's confirmed in her POV sometime during Spencer's run, but knows she could never have him with MJ here. It's a classic example of growing up too late, the best thing you had now is with someone else.
Even still, despite knowing she can never be with the man she loves, she remains one of Peter's best confidants and friends, someone he can rely on for emotional and superhero support. I would say Black Cat has come quite a long way since then
wish we could say the same for Sam Raimis MJ
It really hurts watching/reading this every time holy shit
The voice acting is surprisingly good! The camera passes and the edits are excellent. I had this exact issue of Spider-Man when I was a kid in the 80s'! This is soo cool to see with voice acting,
and music. Well done. Peter being Spider-Man always messed up his realationships with women; Gwen was killed by Green Goblin, Mary jane broke up with him before this era. So with Peter being Spider-Man more after dropping out of graduate school, and spending time with Felicia as the Black Cat would have been so great for him. But when he took her to his apartment, and and took off
his mask and reveled his true identity, she freaked. She loved him as Spider-Man only! What a totally weird twist!
Wow this is a great series, of all the relationships Spiderman/Peter Parker has had I always liked his with the Cat the best
I think she was the best for him, but if she can't love both sides of him does it really work?
@@vicmontseq I do bc he doesn't have to be peter parker but having to be spiderman is what always got in the way
@@ckludecke So, what are you saying? could she love Peter as plain old Peter? I mean, you might tell me off as a romantic but I believe that you can't truly love someone unless you love every aspect of the person. I only said that she was the best considering that she can keep up with Spider-Man. Unlike Mary Jane, what I mean is that she would never try to make him give up being Spidey, but in the end he is a package deal as Peter and Spider-Man. I say this because I think he deserves happiness and to get rid of his rotten Parker luck.
@@vicmontseq Peroid.
@@Gemini053 Um... What do you mean?
I mean, Pete took the epic rejection very well, all things considered.
She doesn't love Peter Parker, but she doesn't love Spider-Man either, she loves the idea of Spider-Man, her delusions of Spider-Man, she has a fetish for him. With that being said when she left out my window and told me to come with her I would never have left. She would have been swinging by herself.
This voiceover is fantastic!
This is a high quality comic dub. I was engaged the whole time.
Unironically, I believe this specific comic panel should be read by EVERY man who is chasing the wrong girl. A lot of guys nowadays spend so much time, energy and HARD EARNED money to get nude pictures of women who capitalize off their desperation to feel validated by an attractive person. Or worse, change themselves entirely to keep a person happy just so they can stay in a relationship that is ultimately one sided.
Peter loved Black Cat, sure, but it was borne out of an immature chase of validation. That the Spider-Man side of him was infinitely more fun. He could just abandon all the responsibilities of Peter Parker, be a hero, date a hot girl and live his dreams.
But that’s not who he is. He doesn’t just hold onto his responsibility as Spider-Man, but as Peter Parker. A beloved nephew, friend, hard worker and eventually husband of MJ. A *good man.*
So I say this to any young boy, or men my age, that is currently pursuing a woman. Please remember not to lose yourself in pursuit of someone. It is the single most vulnerable thing a person can do, and it will be very difficult to come back from it when it doesn’t work out. Be yourself, stay a good man with your morals and aspirations. And I promise you, the right person will come along.
not me though, i just want that booty not sense of worth. I believe these days thye call it simpin' was it?
Excellent message bru
@@StormXS 🤡
Delete this.
@@bakedbeans5494 why
This is why Black Cat will never truly be compatible with Spider-Man. Not only does she not really love him for who he is, but she fundamentally misunderstands why he does what he does. She's only in love with the mask and the thrill that comes with it, not the person wearing it. It's like loving a shadow.
And to be honest, if you don't love Peter Parker, then you don't really love Spider-Man either.
she regretted it later. and still she's the best of all his love interests
i love this. humble and open peter
I used to love these issues so much. This authenticity is something you only see in the good old spider man. Second to none.
When I saw this in my recommendations I already knew this going to go south for Peter *Black Cat aka Felicia Hardy loves Spiderman not Peter Parker , Mary Jane loves Peter Parker not Spiderman she actually loathes his responsibility to the costume but bears it anyway because she truly loves him* This goes to show Black Cat is not a Waifu Peter can't be Spiderman 24/7 he needs to breathe.
TRUTH!
What about silk how did she view Peter/Spiderman
@@djdarore2514 Now that one is complicated Peter Parker and Cindy Moon got bit by the same super spider, at first Cindy was pissed off at Peter for releasing her from a bunker that left her undetectable to Morlun, but sometime after they was drawn to each other because the two produce the pheromones that forcibly connected them in many ways, I think Silk cared for Peter even drawn to him because of their shared connection but it's hard to say that they love each other because of their biologically enhanced situation, I heard in another universe they fell for each other and had kids and Mary Jane disappeared to another country permanently as some kind of journalist but that's all I remember, I don't even remember how that ends.
@@oblivionsweeper wow 😯, thank you this is so interesting yeah ima definitely get into more Spiderman comics
@@djdarore2514 No prob man also you can follow Comicstorian he reads and narrate all kinds of comics Marvel, DC etc, I like the spiderman series but I'm more DC Universe though here's his link you won't regret it, ruclips.net/video/e4JvBh-xvQQ/видео.html
Whoever voiced Spider-Man in this actually resembles the 80s voice actor the 1983 “Spider-Man” show
"Then why ARE you Spider-Man?"
"Guilt, mostly."
Could you tell me the name of this comic, I think I ended up not reading it
Hell, I might have dumped her just from the reaction to the apartment.
Everyone after Spider-Man’s secret identity: You’re not black?
?
Oh, alright then. So you’re…makes sense. Anyways, how you make the suit and what materials?
Black Cat has given her superpowers a sole purpose to make the bad-guys do not what to do and freaking out when the bad-luck coming towards the bad-guys.
4:49 fucking quarantine. Lol.
I find the scene ironic since years later in spiders current run she actually remembers his secret identity and is a lot more chill about it guess OMD did gives us something worth while along with tidalwave of BS but I digress
She was happy when he told her his name again after the memory wipe if I remember correctly
take a shot every time Black Cat says lover
Your voice acting really brought the characters to life. Great work
The second he showed her his home I KNEW she will be gone
Man the writing was so damn good, and I can’t get enough of these spidey narrations they’re just too damn amazing and you do a good job at portraying the emotion and scenario
Never stick your web on crazy
1:57 That french is really funny
Mary Jane Watson sounds like a much better choice as a girlfriend for Peter Parker according to this video
You're not wrong. :)
Yep MJ only loves Peter both side
As Spider-Man and Peter Parker and that's why Peter is destined to be on MJ side of all time
Indeed. She is Stan Lee's favorite after all.
Silk?
5:18 I important?! The guy bared his soul to you, let you know who he is and it's all important?! Unbelievable. And she wonders why it didn't work out? I don't know why. Just drop her right then and there. This is one of the many reasons why she was the wrong choice for Peter
Black Cat and Mockingbird...my first two comic crushes as a kid reading comics.
I Want to see black cat in the MCU
I'd rather they didn't. Their treatment of "MJ" doesn't inspire confidence.
@@silverblade357 well I mean they're portrayal of Mysterio definetly does
As a woman or as a teenager? Either way it could be thrilling, always a love triangle with Pete
@Ian Turner Whichever girls works, every Black Cat version always have white hair 👩🦳
@Ian Turner sabrina could play gwen too
Gwen loved Peter
Black Cat loved Spider-Man
MJ loved both Spider-Man and Peter, that's why they worked.
MJ is boring
wow i loved this.
this is why i prefer spidey with mj rather than black cat.
yes
@@miketheeditor4798 explain again
@@miketheeditor4798oh come on man that’s not fair to her she’s a person doesn’t she atleast deserve to grow and accept him I mean so what if it was a bad situation on her they grow up together Peter and mj broke up and got together Felicia should learn to you know their gonna be great together some universe you know
"PUT THE MASK BACK ON" bro he aint that ugly XDDDD
Love it. Can you do one from Spectaculars 90-91 and Symbiote #1,3 and 5? This video is overally spectacular. From the voices and the sound effects, even that spider-sense sound and screaming on 7:06.
What a good speech this is why i love spider man his my favorite hero
It seems that Black Cat prefers Spiderman instead of Peter Parker
Great work with the music and voices. Thier relationship is really intresting. But man it whould hurt to be Peter. To get the comment put the mask back on. - "Am I that ugly?"
She got to understand him better later but she really was blinded by the idea of Spider-man not the person beneath.
This is an amazing dub!
This is much more complex than how it is remembered in comic book history. People normally talk about how felicia was simply disgusted with peters true life, but as we see here, the real issue was that pete wasnt sure which side of his was true. Not unlike bruce wayne being a mask for batman and superman being a public face for clark kent - spider man imo is really just a release for peter parker.
Reason 1 why I really am annoyed when people want them to be a “thing” and history has show they’re better as friends and not this toxic idea of a relationship
First, 1:26-1:43 was a missed opportunity to dub the captions in your best Stan Lee impersonation.
I'm certainly not alone on this, but I've always likened Spidey and Cat's relationship to that of Batman and Catwoman. Both couples are at their best when they're forbidden, unable to fully share their lives with each other. Otherwise it'd interfere with Spidey and Bat's devotion to the cities they love and the Cats' addiction to the thrill of the chase, respectively.
Damn, this hits hard considering I like Black Cat with Spiderman a lot but now I realize, she doesn't the man behind the mask.
Same 😔
Well, this was WONDERFULL, loved it
I really always think that Black Cat is now a Superheroine to me because she does not want to feel lonely if she still bad-girl in the eyes of Spider-man and other Superheroes.
To think that Felicia (BlackCat) later realized that she loved both SpiderMan and Peter Parker.
in which comic does that happen?
@@alex-om9qf well...i will be just here as you waiting for an answer...although this person posted it 7 months ago and still didn't answered. Well...in fact, you're question have only 13 minutes since it's been posted, so, it's normal, lmao.
ruclips.net/video/zFkt1reWpeo/видео.html
The closest I could find on RUclips.
@@jvam16 @its after she come back from Europe and find out that Peter is married to MJ
4:49 REDPILL CONFIRMED
That's what we call a red flag, Peter...
Now this is what I like a narrator reading out the comics and I can picture it like I’m actually watching a movie nice!!
3:46. I’ve seen this so many times and it’s just dawning on me that this music was from my hero academia. Nice pick!
super cool brother saludos desde venezuela
I would love Felicia to appear one day in a next upcoming spider man movies
Black Cat makes my gold-digger sense tingle. Unfortunately, even Peter's spider-sense is blinded by love.
Black cat: Show me where you live
Spidey: take you home?
Spidey: but, There is no way home
That flute cover of all might's theme nice😌🔥🔥
The reason I use the soundtrack from "My Hero Academia" is because the creator of the series is a Spider-Man fan himself.
It's also thanks to these guys on Deviantart.
They're drawing all of Spider-Man's characters in the style of My Hero Academia. It looks really cool.
Link to DuckLordEthan: www.deviantart.com/ducklordethan
Link to Void-Wolf: www.deviantart.com/void-wolf
Am I the only one that’s seeing the Problem here! She loves Spider-man not Peter Parker
Same, everyone's talking about how *good* of a "relationship" this is when in reality its not. It's one-sided and toxic not to mention I think that Felicia's emotionally cheating on Peter with Spider-Man. It's like she's having an affair with two different men who're one in the same. She's addicted to being Black Cat and the power that it gives her.
EDIT- And not to mention that Peter's become a little more dominant then how he was as a teenager. Two Alpha personalities will just constantly bump heads and never get anything done because their so stubborn.
EDIT 2- I ship Spider-Man and Black Cat but I only ship the two entities alone. I don't ship Peter and Felicia. I'm more of a MJ kind of girl.
Gwen Stacy-First Love
Felicia Hardy-Rebound lover
MJ-True Love
It's obviously toxic I don't get the comics either
@@jasmintea8825 welcome to Marvel where Tony Stark and Reed Richards singlehandedly almost destroyed the Avengers and every hero associated with them
Peter Parker is Spider-Man. The quips, the tech, the responsability. There is no Spider-Man without Peter Parker. I suppose what could be considered toxic is her rejection of the unmasked Spider-Man, the one without the mystery and the confidence. Her rejection could be interpreted as her refusal to be with Peter when he's not at his highest, when he is vulnerable. It might be reading too much into it though.
At the end of the day, Spider-Man is the true Peter Parker. The expression of his goodness, of his selflessness. Like Peter said, his past relationship's failed because of Spider-Man, because those women loved Peter, or rather, the front that Peter put on, so maybe he needs someone who loves his true, noble self. Considering who Felicia is and what she does, it's not surprising that she felt repulsed by Peter's humbleness, that she could not immediately bridge the gap between this heroic, intelligent, skilled guy and the squalor he lives in. It's like putting your hand over a candle and you feel cold.
Honestly there's room to argue. You may not believe that Spider-Man is Peter's true form, in which case this rejection should prove fatal, but I for one think that Peter and Felicia are possible. While Felicia may lack in a sense of duty and responsability, Peter more than makes up for it, arguably to an unhealthy degree. I think they could stand to learn from each other.
@@Gemini053 i like Peter with Mary Jane watson because she loves him alot to the point where she can put up with him being spiderman Peter parker and black cat are too toxic because she loves spiderman but not Peter parker and that is no relationship i would want to be in if i was Peter
Ayo this channel is underrated
Wow 😲 seeing you guys do an amazing job with all the responses and emotional tones and such makes even reading it all included so much more better
Your voice sounds like Tobey which made my experience watching this even better!
Man, this reminds me of the whole Joker obsessing over the Bat, the mythological figure that has gripped Gotham, and how knowing his secret identity would, like, ruin the punchline.....
Granted that's only in some stories, it's never really consistent XD
You know after seeing this comic dub it Made me realize that maybe just maybe when the next Spider-Man movie comes a fourth one I hope maybe black cat cat actually be in that movie and that would be something like still a new beginning for Spider-Man Tom Holland knowing he met a new sweetheart who in a way it’s like an equal to him.
It would be kinda early for them to even start feeling Each. I would like to see her tho. That's for sure.
with a withe woman as black cat please...
Look at little Black Cat...gonna cry?
This is a really good dub!
1:19 all might theme with the flute DID ANYBODY HEAR ALL MIGHT THEME
I wanna see this in the next triology, watch holland go all in as spidey and be blind with symbiote and black cat and just maybe he’ll run into MJ again and then get a hit of nostalgia of why it’s all about who’s behind the mask not the mask itself
"oh yes sexy hero mask man, fun fetish sneaky good times"
"THIS IS MY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER MARRY ME"
"GO BACK GO BACK"
Too bad his Spider sense didn’t tell him to stay away from her.
If Batman taught me anything, its stop chasing acrobatic, thrill seeking, potentially criminally dangerous women, who dress like cats.
This is the reason why Black Cat is the biggest THOT in Spider-Man’s life.
Bombass black cat voice. She gave me Spiderman animated series vibes.
Wow this was very well done. I listen to audio books and radio shows but before this hadnt heard any well produced comic book readings with sincere performances and accurate sfx. Ive also read this comic before butt his time wont forget it. Good job :D
NOW HAVE THIS FOR SPIDER-MAN 4, after all the things Peter had been through in No Way Home.
True
Bro I feel bad for Peter.. cat made him rethink his morals and basically said he ain’t shut under the mask even.
In the games, they totally nailed eachother multiple times... and yet she doesn;t know hes Peter Parker.
That is some serious Spiderman only kink.
And people say that black cat love interest is better than mj and Gwen lmao