Evolutionary Riversong Guitar Description
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- Опубликовано: 18 фев 2013
- Mike Miltimore talks about Riversong Guitars unique world wide patent pending guitar design. Imagine adjustable action intonation and top loading(stiffness). Www.riversongguitars.com
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My son and I were fortunate to play some of these guitars, my son was across from me and we both could not stop smiling while we played, I was at a loss for words on how AMAZING they felt a great father and son moment
Hey Guys, Pricing starts at $1150 cut-aways are available and they are called performer models on our website. We have just built a guitar without sides to prove that the body is virtually free of tension that distorts and tries to implode standard guitars.
I've had daydreams of inventing an acoustic guitar which possessed the adjustability of an electric. You guys have gone beyond the dream phase and have actually produced the guitars! Fascinating, innovative design concepts.
Awesome 😎 I think that is Ingenious.
My Tradition Canadian Deluxe Performer arrived today, and the custom touches are beyond what I expected. This is not only a sweet guitar, but a piece of art. Thank you Riversong for giving me the best guitar of my 31 year career, and I'll be a proud endorser of these babys for the next 31 years as I'm sure this guitar will outlive me! GREAT WORK THANK YOU!
Cigar box guitar,similar build but bloody awesome 🎸🍺🎤🎶🎉👍
Such incredible innovations!! Can’t wait to get one!!
I have no idea if all of these innovations work, but you have to give this guy credit; there are some fascinating concepts here.
Love the innovation
Very innovative, great sounding and Canadian, I love it. I will be traveling through to the Yukon from Pender in the second week of June and hopefully, I can do a tour of your shop and play one of your guitars. Cheers Brian
Great ideas and engineering. Hope you sell a ton of these.
well done! great design!
Nice work
🍁This is so great to see - and hear. Great to see innovation like this coming right out of Canada too, but the way you've changed the whole approach to something like The Acoustic Guitar is incredible. I'm a bass player, so watching from the opposite coast. All the best to Riversong Guitars!
Best sounding acoustic I have ever played.
I saw Mike at the Kingston Music Conference today. Absolutely phenomenal design, great sounding and easy playing guitar. I want one please. Nice work Mike, really man. Thanks for the demo.
It was great meeting you too George. When your ready let me know and I will get a guitar into your hands.
Brilliant!!!
Awesome!
That’s fantastic idea.
This is amazing. There’s company in Australia called Sleishman Drums and they’re another father and son company who make drums that have no lugs to create a bigger sound and more tonal range.
That's pretty awesome
I find it hilarious that people comment about how they'd "buy a Martin" for the price of these....so...you'd buy a factory built guitar as opposed to what is effectively a custom built guitar? I think the onus is on the factory guitar to justify its cost, not the luthier that builds them in small numbers......
Resale value is just a reality that a lot of people need to consider.
Not only a factory made Martin but a Martin built in china currently non solid wood backs. Martin is garbage now. I recently played a Martin was not even close to the original martins of my younger days.
Just played one today. Working on selling the Taylor already. I live in Saskatchewan and I’m sick of trying to maintain my Taylor with luthiers who can’t or won’t repair and adjust it how I ask when the seasons change. You’ve blown my mind and that sound is incredible. Bright and beautiful. I’m picky and can’t wait to order one
We look forward to welcoming you to the Riversong Family!
I love my taylor 414 ce special edition. I'm not sure that i could ever give it up. Would love to add one of these to my collection
Great idea! The concept is very cool. :) One great way to tackle some of the common problems seen in traditionally built guitars.
Wow I want one.
Bravo!
Hello. Great that you caught on to that idea. I've been building cigarbox guitars for a couple years and have been building them neck through much the same way as your guitars. Banjos also use basically a neck through. Liked your video. Thanks.
Difference is the adjustability, intonation adjustments and variable too loading.
Finally this will be a major help to all players my friend Greg Kellogg would like to talk to you guys about another great idea called the guitar kickstand for acoustics coming very soon
Men, i said today to my student i will never buy a new guitar cause i have enough but suddenly see your video and i was shocked by your very unique model. If you take the challenge to built a classical guitar (I'm a one of them) with that system, I will intersting to buy yours someday. Infortunely i live in Peru but i hope your guitars arrive to my country soon. Cheers!
So much the much vaunted Taylor 'V' bracing . . . hyped to death and not massively different to what came before (certainly not in terms of the boosts in cost).
Well done Mike.
Genious !
There is no structural bracing. There is a little tone bracing for stiffness which is adjustable for humidity and string tension.
Old banjo time !
Hey good job guys, should have been done a long time ago!
Have you tried making a classical guitar with these innovations?
My 1928’ Lyon & Healy Washburn 000 Deluxe is the pinnacle of Acoustic Tone. Nuts & Bolts are functionally appropriate on a 1955 Chevy!🇺🇸
Hey simon the bridge is where all your sound comes from. Too high and the top collapses and too low it doesn't vibrate enough. The other trick is the break angle. It feel our system gives the best of both worlds for intonation feel and sound!
A radical paradigm shift in acoustic guitar design! Does it also work for nylon string guitars?
your guitars look and sound great!! I'm just wondering what the price range is??
How does the bridge hold up if there is no bracing in the top? Seems that the bridge would start to roll like on some of the older cheap guitars I see.
Interesting twist on the stick through a box design used in cigar box guitars.
Good work guy's.
think i will go play one in kamloops
Nothing really knew here.
Sure it's clever but haven't banjos been built like this forever.
The design ingenuity applied to the acoustic guitar is however unique and to be admired.
Want!!
How can you patent something that already exists both in banjo, cigar box guitars, several other guitar designs including the old prairie guitars?
I live just outside of Nashville Tennessee is there a place that I could go and play one of your guitars close by?
Sounds good to me. How much & where can i get one?
I am currently stationed in Saudi Arabia. It is extremely dry here, have you been able to test your guitars in an extreme dry climate and what is the effect on the woods? I bought an acoustic guitar locally and I have a hard time keeping tuned sometimes.I am a novice player, and my friends and I like to jam outside in the cooler months. Very nice looking quality on your guitars.Hope to see your guitars soon at my favorite guitar website (GC).
Hey George, We have done extensive humidity testing. Our guitars are very good with humidity changes, we recommend that your guitar is maintained at 40%RH. All of our guitars ship with an inboard humidifier. Our guitar necks are extremely stable due to the solid design through to the 24th fret. If you are very concerned about humidity effects, we have done a "tour cure" where the entire inside of the soundbox is sealed as well. Let us know what you would like and I can put a deal together for you! email mike@RiversongGuitars.com
Made a new guitar, but no tripod for camera smh
Is the company named after the character River Song from Doctor Who?
how to install a pickup?
So, being a guitar builder myself....Quick question...How do you keep the top from warping without any bracing? Wood shrinks over time...no matter how you treat it....So how did you fix the warping problem over time?
The structure of our guitars is quite different. Wood does expand and contract however the warping over time is minimal as we can build our guitar system without sides. This shows how little tension is across the body, our sideless guitar is tuned to full tension and the top and back are very stable and free from deformation. Our early brace-less guitars have a very stable top. Come to the 2014 NAMM show and I will be happy to take you through our design!
are there cutaway models? and prices?
... only D-noughts and jumbo's?
That's almost exactly how we make our necks on home built cigar box guitars.
These ideas are very cool, but I don't hear a lot of low end in the sound of these guitars.
It’s a solid body acoustic guitar. Clever.👌🏻
I have to commend him on his work, design, and dedication but, set up is a combination of neck angle and neck relief ( truss rod). Not sure how it is addressed here. Some instruments are very stable and some the necks are constantly moving.( season, temperature, and humidity).
Looks to me that the bridge may in time deviate. No?
The neck can
Move in and out for intonation and the end block is radiused to accommodate that.
"We only use solid wood on our guitars because I don't know where to buy plywood" 🤣😂🤣
My hand is very small. Can I replace the finger board with a shorter one, so that I can play more comfortably ?
Woo Chatming if you send me your serial number (mike@riversongguitars.com) and I will let you know. We have just developed a short scale neck and could potentially do a custom fretboard on that neck to line up with your new scale length....so yes....maybe.....
@@RiversongGuitar Thank you very much for your quick response.
I have not yet bought it, but I suggest buying the Soulstice Deluxe Black color model in Hong Kong. The shop is called "Tom Lee music" and they are offering a discount, so I wonder whether I should buy it. I tried that guitar and the sound seems great. I am just a guitar beginner but I have difficulty playing because I have small hands.
I have watched your video about how to re=assembly the guitar neck. May I know whether it can easily be done at home ?
Woo Chatming the soulstice already has our fastest smallest neck profile. An easy change may be to use a capo on. The 2nd fret and retune so that the first position markers will line up. Of course anything is possible but the cost with shipping may be more then it’s worth. We do have a parlour guitar coming out that you could ask the great guys at Tom Lee about.
@@RiversongGuitar Dear Mike, from your email address, I found that you are the inventor and founder of Riversong. I am very happy to hear from you directly, it is really my pleasure.
I tried this guitar in a local shop today. One thing I notice from this guitar is that it has very smooth tone transition from G string to B/E string. It is much better than my own solid top guitar. It is a very notable difference.
My hand is too small. For example, when I play F chord, it is very easy to either "dull" the sound of high E string or making "buzz" sound on A string. So a short finger board would be very useful for player like me.
Woo Chatming alright, please request an additional neck from Tom Lee and I will respond to them with a cost. They will have to have there service team re and re the neck. Tom lee understands the importing costs and logistics for Hong Kong.
Personally I find everything about this guitar unique except the headstock design!
hello, will the guitar stays in tune after years to come? thanks
Is there a traditional looking model? I like the concept but every one I've seen is hideous.
私はアニメを愛していない。 We have many models check our website www.RiversongGuitars.com
Just watched the video. Could you then, do an Electric, that had it's strings over top the neck and that's it? The pick-up's etc, if I actually Saw knobs on acoustics..could still be where they were. I dunno...but I think it would be cool! (Maybe I am not awake yet, but got me thinking) (Maybe one at top one at bottom?
Do you make left handed models ?
Hi Paul, all our models are available in left handed. Email what your looking for and I will get some more information to you! Mike@RiversongGuitars.com
Hello sir
Thanks for getting back with me. I am wanting to get a left handed cut away with the slap pick ups and also the slap pick up in it.
And wondering what that would run me thanks and may God bless you .
What city do you live in? I will find out the closest dealer for you. We have 6 wood combinations and a full custom shop. Which model would you like the slap installed on?
please send me photos of them
the cut a ways please left handed thanks again
great, a lot quieter there then at NAMM
Warranty service is very, very slow!
ask a skateboard manufacturer, they probably knew where to get plywood
Ok brilliant,awesome now make one that'll self tune! p.s. I came up with that first,just saying!
My goodness. A banjo stick in a guitar.
Having no traverse brace above the sound hole will surely give a tubby fundamental tone.
guitars are wood and even as they are dead wood they still remain somewhat living organisms insofar as to how they react to temperature and humidity, as well as yanking forces that players exert on them. millions of beginners would have stuck with guitar and at least attained a lifetime of 4 chord therapeutic guitar joy if their guitar had this set-up system.
It’s interesting that his post through floating top design is exactly what many cigar box guitar builders have been doing for decades. Just goes to show there’s very little that’s completely new or ever truly original in acoustic instrument design.
It’s quite different from a cigar box. Intonation and and variable top loading is something that a cigar box cannot do. The strut is a small part of the overall design. I would encourage you to visit a dealer and try one.
Riversong is perhaps closer than ANY other Acoustic Guitar Manufacturer that I'm aware of, to an "ULTIMATE" Design ! You're about half of the way there, but it could be much better imo. It is still lacking several obvious KEY/crucial design aspects imo. I'm talking about an extreme minimalist architecture(although those particular features can be optional) as well as the inclusion of simple/intuitive yet absolute precision adjust-ability of EVERY single meaningful/important parameter related to functionality, Play-ability & Tone. ThE TRUE "Next-Level" Acoustic guitar(as they WILL eventually be). Don't worry, I don't have access to a wood-shop(or ANY capable facility). But I do plan on making a prototype somehow someday.
Genius
If you want to send me a demo one, you'd be welcome to :)
me too please
Please play in tune.
Interesting approach, will watch to see how it pans out in future... often strong modifications to guitar bracing (tried and proven) develops distortions in time. But, some radical designs (like Ovation) proved OK. This is really radical. For what might be an important introduction video, you should have used a camera on a tripod and either done some serious practice on the zoom-ins, or edited some cuts for that... the camera does some sickening moves when full-screened. Best of luck!
Dixie s design hmmmm
great idea, now all you need to do is make a cutaway so that u can actually play those higher frets...
He did not invent that Harmony did that in the 1940s I have been making guitars like that for decades.
National in the 1920s
Great concept and very loud but too many overtones
Torres in the 1800s got it about right with no tricks ...also the brace to the tail block is used in banjo's so not a new idea...kind regards from the U.K.
Used in National guitars and older Fender acoustics too.
cheapest one is $1,100...thats ok if i wanted to spend that much i would buy a martin.
If your meaning a new Martin your not buying a total wood guitar there Is very thin layers of wood with a plastic center layer made in China as of currently 2023. I played one at a guitar shop recently and it didn’t feel or sound right. Two minutes of playing I placed it back on the wall. Martin’s are not what they once were. Go and find a real Martin made in the 50’s- 60’s
@@gregj.gotham4402 lol, 2023.
It was 2013... 😂
I've been poring over these videos, as I am a big fan of innovation in guitar design. I want to be a proud Canadian and love these things, but so far I've been unimpressed with the TONE- at least from the audience perspective. I find a lack of expressiveness, the loud but indistinct sound like a wall without nuance.
It’s always best to try one in person. Here is a video of Michael Hermes who does some interesting things with his Riversong on his RUclips channel. ruclips.net/video/aILA1tcyMEo/видео.html
Well the recording here is off somehow. If ypu can make a better guitar try a better recording.
Best iPhone technology 10 years ago. Much better recordings are on our website.
All these experts here with their cigar boxes and banjos 😂😂😂
You really do not have to like these (I do not like the looks, which should(!) be secondary, but...). But I do not babble bs.
Sounds real bad any one else hearing that or is my speaker?
Patent pending and revolutionary design??? That is standard construction on banjos and "cigar box guitars" and has been for 400 years.
Like the idea, but not a fan of the sound .
I bought one when I picked it up and felt the action. It is similar to a electric guitar... I recently played it out through a standard amp and I had a local longtime musician tell me, " Phil, that is the nicest sounding acoustic I've ever heard.....With the bridge and body pickups you can find a balance between them with a slider switch. And there is also a notch adjustment knob which adjusts, and makes feedback go away
@@carverphil1 ok.... What did it sound like unplugged?
You pay for what you get , good entry level guitar , but they just don't sound that good.
Hi Tt55, I’m sorry that you feel that way, I wonder what models you have tried, how old the strings were and how it was setup. These are all major factors on how a guitar sounds. We have been building for over ten years now and my most played guitar is from 2012 essentially same era as this video. 6 years later we have many models to choose from including our new Magagna that has amazing sound, dynamics, and touch response due to our new Skeletized bracing and double reaction bridges. My goal as a guitar builder/designer is to create an instrument that is balanced for volume, resonance, and sustain all over the fretboard. I welcome you to come to Kamloops and I will personally show you around, I am sure we can find a guitar that you will love.
evolutionary??? cigarbox guitars are made that way for ages 🤣😂