The Coolest Moroni 8 Story Ever (Elder Holland Audio Excerpt)
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- Moroni chapter 8 in The Book of Mormon contains plain and precious doctrines that can bring peace to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as to the whole human family. Check out this story shared by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland during an address at the missionary training center!
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A similar thing happened to me. I was told that my infant son, who had be premature and then a little later taken very sick, was a sinner. Needless to say I was not happy. In fact I was furious, how can anyone hold a small innocent baby in their arms and tell me the infant is sinner? When the missionaries showed up at my door a week later the first question I asked them was to tell me why my son was a sinner. They got out a book and turned to chapter 8. I've been a member since my little one was a ten months old now he is in his late forties. Missionaries, you've just got to love them.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Sister, you have amazing FAITH
My mother told the same mummy bore our brother at 8 months he had left our earth 😢😢
I had a lady ask me what happened to children that died with out baptism, I asked if she wanted the long or the short answer she said the short, I told her that the child went to heaven. I could tell she was touched by the message but did not want to know more at that point. I hope some future missionary knocked on her door and continued that lesson.
I was also told by my previous Lutheran minster that if something happened to my newborn son, he'd not be saved if I didn't get him baptized. I had just joined the Church so it was time for me to show my faith. I told the minister my son wouldn't have to be baptized until he was eight-years-old when he was old enough to know right from wrong and that I believed God would take him to Him if he died before the age of eight. The minister was very frustrated with me and it was hard for me to not give in but I either believed what I'd been taught by the missionaries or not.
I spent 7-1/2 years in a Lutheran school. The Principal, Miss Olsen, had been a prisoner of the Japanese as a missionary during WW2.
It was a small school and she picked her teachers very carefully.
They were all very special. It's too bad they didn't have the fullness of the gospel.
This happened to my mother when she suffered a late miscarriage. She went to her pastor, at the church she regularly attended. He told her that child was lost because it wasn't baptized, and not to worry, she'd have more children! When a friend introduced her to the church, the gospel and the true fullness of salvation, she was overjoyed to learn that her baby was safe in heaven, and she'd meet them someday.
Thank you for this additional witness!
If one was not so inclined to believe superstitiously they wouldn't need another set of external writings to 'save' them.
One lesson from such stories is about the human's propensity to believe unreasonable philosophies: from such we all need saving.
Alas, sense is scarcely common and reason is often abrogated by fear, and diminished by group think - the need to belong to the pack, the group, the team, the social set, the fraternity, the church.
Prayers for Elder Holland now.. losing his wife and he has health issues. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
As a missionary in California over 5o years ago my companions and I had similar experiences with contacts who had lost babies and had been told by their minister that there was no hope for their unbaptized child. What unspeakable joy was in their hearts when they heard the beautiful words of Moroni.
Beautifully said. Thank you for sharing your experience. It is truly a joyous doctrine!
@@latterdaydivers Where are those darn NT Church Temples and promises made to God????
I could listen to Elder Holland All-day!!!!!!!!!!
Amen!
Thankyou my Grandma used to teach him in primary
Beautiful story and l believe it because it happened to me when 2 missionaries trackted me out. I'm forever grateful.
Wow thank you for this comment and second witness! I’m so glad the missionaries found you and you responded ❤️
Bless you for having a pure heart and willingness to feel after the spirit of truth. Would love to hear that story of yours too.
@@latterdaydivers I am too!
Now I’m dying to hear your story. I hope you have taken the time to write it down because I would love to read it.
@James Wines I’m talking to Corinne
I love Elders Hollands ability for public speaking. He has a special talent for it.❣
Poor momma, suffering without her baby. Even if it was 50 yrs later, she could still be suffering.
What lovely, true, loving words from the Lord to his servant to the servant's son... children are alive in Christ. So soothing for a broken heart.
The words of Christ are always soothing to our souls!!!!!!!! I thank God for the Book of Mormon and the gracious missionarys that taught me the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Plan of Salvation!!!!!!! May God bless Elder Holland and missionaries everywhere!!!!!!!!!
Amen
This is why it must be in all of our hearts. The gospel is transformative and so many stand in need of it.
The Book o Mormon has nothing to do with the real gospel. The real gospel is only in the Bible. Nelson is the false prophet.
The mormons are afraid of the cross. The cross has not seen in the Mormon Temples
@@ilmari7568
Sorry . . . You are free to believe as you wish and the consequences of those choices are all yours!
Sounds like what happened to me with the Lutheran church. I prayed for relief... The missionaries showered up a few days later. It'll be 25 years ago in Feb.
Wow thanks for sharing your experience! And congrats on that anniversary of eternal significance!
Amen this happened to my grandmother! And my mother grew up with this pain from my her mother and she lost babies also. Then I had a similar experience also. So when I get a knock on the door and these young men were bold, yet gentle and generous I was drawn to them.
They taught me this truth and my life has never been the same and now I teach this truth as a seminary teacher with so much love, passion and total conviction.
And THE TRUTH WILL SET YOUR FREE (and your dear beloved ones also).
I love this! Thank you for sharing your family’s experience and continuing to teach by love and example!
Amen.
Moroni 8:25 is the verse that triggered me into motion for baptismin 1976! The Lord God opened the book to that chapter and verse while I petitioned Him in prayer about whether or not I was good enough to join His church! When I got off my knees that book which was opened to 2 Nephi somewhere.. was then open to Moroni 8. My eyes went straight to that verse saying baptism was the FIRST fruit of repentance... ♥️
So amazing, thank you for sharing!
Moroni never existed..
Many years ago at the end of my first discussion with the missionaries, they asked if I had any questions and I asked them what did their church believe happened to babies who die without baptism. This young elder barely older than myself told me ... then bore his testimony about his little brother who died and eternal families. I think that was the moment I knew this was the church for me.
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing. From the mouth of babes...
I had a wonderful baptist friend and when I lost my two year old little boy she told my husband and myself how sorry she felt for us because our little boy had never been baptized and would never be saved.
I told her how thankful I was that I KNEW exactly where my baby was and I had complete peace in my heart that he was a perfect child serving an important mission for his Heavenly Father, and that we would be together again one day as a family.
I wish I could say she believed me, but she didn’t, but I knew without a doubt.
Even 100 years later, the truth the gospel brings Just Pierced my heart with JOY!!! Simple truth, the most glorious of ALL!!!😇
Oh, Sweety. I am find. I am being treated for stage3 beast cancer. Jesus is literally with me everyday as I deal with side effects of chemo. When I have lain in bed with excruciating pain & wrenching, I have cried out to Heavenly Father for help & Jesus is instantly here, sitting next to me, gently stroking my arm, whispering to my body,
"Peace...be still." My body stilled & I was at peace. As to the woman with the "mirror" she has no power over me. I have received priesthood blessings & because I am literally touched by the divine, I have the gift of speaking with those who have passed away & to see into the Spirit World, more so now, Than any other time in my long life. I am A DAUGHTER OF GOD!!!
A WARRIOR PRINCESS!!! I let THE LORD LEAD ME IN ALL THINGS. Jesus is by my side, daily. It's a time/space continuum, thingy.
I appreciated your desire to feed the orphans, but using Elder Holland's message to solicite funds for your orphanage is NOT OF GOD!! Throwing in an "evil witch" with a "mirror" assaulting me is way beyond cruel!!
The occult has no power over me!!
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has the most extensive food welfare delivery system in the world!! They will ship food to your orphanage free of charge!!! I'm surprised you didn't do your research about the church Welfare program!! It's a true eye opener!! So, try to scam somewhere else!! Every month, Members of the church fast for
2 meals. The money they would have spent is donated to the church welfare system to feed the members of their wards & the world!!!. Over the years I have needed their help & I have never gone hungry!! If you do have an orphanage contact the church for help. They will be more than happy to feed hungry children &help out in many other ways!! Good Luck!! #lighttheworld2020
30 years ago 2 jehova’s witnesses came to my house to teach me about their religion . I felt nothing , and made no follow up appointment . The next day 2 missionairies of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints stood at my door , asking if they could tell me a little bit about the book of Mormon. When they came in , and started to tell me about the book of mormon , the Spirit was so strong , i got such a joyfull feeling over me ! I took the challenge they gave me to read in the book of mormon ( especially moroni 10-3 to 5 ) and got a testimony of the book and the church ! I am forever grateful to God and those 2 missionairies !!!
Amen! Thank you for sharing your experience and testimony!
You got the answer from the Devil. The book of mormon is not the Word of God. Mormons are not Christians.
@@ilmari7568 you have no way of proving that was a message from the devil. You dont have the authority to call someone’s testimony wrong. I don’t know if you have read the Book of Mormon in it’s entirety, but I do know that it is another Testament of Jesus Christ. I’m not saying it is better then the Bible. I know that these 2 books can go hand in hand and there are several versus in the Bible which point to the Book of Mormon coming into place
@@davidgoelz4472 you "know"? You have no evidence. Book of Mormon is the lie. It's people have never live.
I'm a returned missionary, I had to try and get people to come back out to church despite all that happened. It was heartbraking when they decline. I'll never forget the reasons or that moment
I honestly believe that part of the reason the Lord inspired leader to develop Come Follow Me was to provide a bridge between the teaching opportunities in the home and what Preach My Gospel is about.
We just need faith, and like Elder Holland said, the gospel has to be in our hearts. Thank you Elder Holland.
I went to France on my mission and met so many WONDERFUL Catholic members. I love them so much. Hope to be able go back someday and teach them again.
At least 6 years before I ever knew The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints existed, before I ever heard of the Book of Mormon, (I had joined the Catholic Church sho my husband wouldn't be excommunicated) my daughters 6th grade teacher told me of her 25 year broken heart because as a Catholic, she married a wonderful man that she fell in love with, but wasn't Catholic. She was excommunicated. Soon after they were married they learned they would be parents.. A beautiful daughter was born to them. She went to the monseigneur to see if she could have her baby baptized. He yelled at her "No!" and when she dies she will go to purgatory forever. 6 months later her darling little girl died. That mother carried that heavy burdon in her heart for those 25 years. When she told me this, my heart broke for her pain and I said to her "Oh, Rosemary, the Father I worship is a kind, loving, Father. He would never send an innocent child to purgatory because he/ she wasn't baptized as an infant" "I believe that child was taken right up to Heavenly Father's arms. If you are concerned about someone, be concerned for that monseigneur, because I don't think Father is very pleased with him!" Not until I joined the Church and finished the Book of Mormon... when I actually got to Moroni 8, did I have my proof of what I told that dear lady. By the time my daughter and I were able to drive back to visit them, to share this truth with them, did we learn that she had died a few years earlier and her husband died just a few months before we arrived at their home. I knew that both she and her husband now knew what I had shared those many years before was true. Sadly, they have no siblings and no other children, so I guess they must have to wait for the millennium to get their work done. I'm guessing they are ok with that, just knowing their baby girl is in Heavenly Father's presence! What a testamony that was to me! I'm so grateful for the witnesses I recieved long before I was introduced to the true Church and true gospel!
Wow. So cool. You were given the very words to say indeed. God bless you.
I’m speechless. Thank you for sharing your experience and testimony ❤️ I’m so grateful for the restored gospel.
Don't respond to the request for monetary aide in the spoofed reply from Elder Holland. It is a scam. That account was just barely created and has no content. The owner of that account replied with the same message to 3 different people on this comment board. Elder Holland would never say such things or ask someone to send money to an orphanage in Nigeria. There are more secure and appropriate ways to provide assistance through established humanitarian channels.
Amazing testimony. The Spirit revealed truth to you. Love it.
Thank you for your story and testimony. If you know their names and information, they don’t need to wait until the millennium to have their work done. You are able to prepare their names in Family Tree and take their names to the temple and do the work for them.
The beauty of the eternal plan of a loving and kind Heavenly Father ❤
Love you Elder Holland and what you represent. I love my Testimony and am so thankful that the Missionaries’s taught us these truths. I am eternally thankful to them and the sister that opened her mouth to my wife.
HOLLAND for the assist....the Gospel of Jesus Christ for the win! Always good to hear him emphatically drive a point home.
Slam dunk!!
Book of Mormon is not the Gospel. The book has written by Joseph Smith and he was a false prophet. The people of the book have never lived. Book of Mormon id the lie.
@Elder Jeffrey R. Holland Hello Sir I just wanted to express my love for you and all of the General Atthorities of the church!! Thank you for all you do and for your love for all those around you! Thank you for your countless personal stories that you share with the world as well as the stories of others!
May God continuely bless you for all those you touch of which I am undoubtedly sure he will !!!
I love the church and all their in as well as our Heavenly Father and his son Jesus Christ!!!
May you have a wonderfully beautiful Christmas in these troubling times in the world as well within the church!!
So many members seem to be struggling at this time it makes me weep for them! I wish they would learn to hold fast to the rod !
The time is growing ever so short until the glorious coming of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ may we all be found holding fast!!
Again I express my love for you and for all you do!!
Please send my love to the Prophet as well Thank you!!
Not just the missionaries, but all Latter-Day Saints should know the doctrines of Christ that are in the Book of Mormon. 😊❤️🙏🇦🇺
True!
Excellent! Wonderful talk! I felt the Spirit testifying how important is to learn and share the gospel principles through the Book of Mormon. The missionary was prepared to share Moroni 8 because he had studied this scripture before. That’s the path: study, feel the Spirit, and share.
Some years ago just after the tragedy of Dunblane in Scotland where someone had gone into the local primary (elementary ) school and shot many of the children there our Avon lady came knocking at the door. She always came on a Monday evening as we were gathered for our Family Home Evening but noticing her distress we invited her in. Her neighbour who considered herself to be a 'born again Christian ' had told Trish that all of those children would go to hell if they had not been baptized. We had been discussing the beautiful reassuring words of Moroni 8 and as we shared them with Trish she was so relieved and grateful to know that the little boy she had lost in infancy was also safe because of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Trish became a regular visitor to our home as she had more questions for us and eventually agreed to meet the missionaries who served in your area at that time. Our daughter went to the same ballet classes as her daughter and so our friendships grew and they joined the Church ..... all because of Moroni 8 and the wonderful peace of mind that comes from knowing how much our Saviour Jesus Christ has done for all of us through His Infinite Atonement and God's unconditional love.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience. The Savior and His gospel truly do give beauty for ashes.
I have a dear friend who has passed on but who became a member of the Church in South Africa after the Elders taught her from Moroni 8 after her minister had told her that her baby boy who had passed on was damned.
Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely priceless. Thanks so much for posting this important clip. So happy to be subscribed to your channel! 💛🙏🏼
Thanks, Glen! I appreciate that! Glad you benefited from this clip.
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What an amazing story. Apostle Holland have an amazing sense of humor, speaking the truths. Thanks our HEAVENLY FATHER, and our BELOVED HEAVENLY MOTHER, for Apostle Holland's amazing talk, about the truths with the amazing sense of humor.
Come on brother. We worship God and are accountable to Him and His Son, Jesus Christ.
Such a beautiful story. Thanks so much.
One of my favorites!
I too am grateful for persistent missionaries who wouldn't give up on me even after slamming the door in their faces several times. The Gospel is true and the Book of Mormon is the word of God! Thank you.
Wow thanks for sharing! Glad you heard their message after all 🙂
@Elder Jeffrey R. Holland I don't know who this is but this is wrong! You need to stop using Elder Holland's name and site for this scam
Disgusting to treat someone with a loss like that. It has happened to others too. But thankfully we have heard more truth about the need for baptising once people become accountable. Thankfully those missionaries persisted and she was comforted.
@Elder Jeffrey R. Holland definitely not an apostle of the Lords words.
Love the story! I love the Book of Mormon!!!
I cannot verify the missionary story, but I can tell you of watching my mother testify of this very principle to a distraught neighbor who had just shared the same double tragedy of a lost child and a heartless minister while sitting on our sofa in the late 1970s.
Read that very chapter and verse the other night before bed time. So thankful for the revealed truth of the restored gospel.
I love listening to Elder Holland, when he has a God given gift of getting thru to every person wether it’s then or later down the road that person will remember what was said. I know that story could be true, because that happened to a member of my family. Different time and place almost same story. Thank the Lord for missionaries !
What a blessing of faith and love.
Who is this?? 3 other people got this exact same message!
Oh how I love this channel! Thank you! Greetings from Russia.
Hi Julia! Thanks for supporting the channel! God bless you!
Every time I've shared this it has touched hearts. It's very specific doctrine to the book of Mormon and it makes me sad so many discount the book. Even ignoring everything else, knowing children are saved in Christ should be enough to value the book of Mormon.
I so agree Spencer. I have lost 2 babies in miscarriage and Moroni 8 helped me even though I didn't get to hold those ' baby angels' in my arms.
@@lindajohnson7575 me too, but just one, not two. I'm sorry for your loss. Thankfully the Gospel gives us some hope.
Thank you for your special witness of these truths ❤️
Nobody and I mean nobody gives a message like Elder Holland 👍. I think if he could swear he'd do it just like J Golden Kimball😂😂.... That's how serious he is. LOVE THAT MAN😇 and we need more like him
Moroni 8 was an answer to prayers of an investigator I taught in Canada who was there from Singapore as a student. As a Catholic this chapter was overwhelming to her as the truth which she believed in her heart all along. She found it on her own while reading the B of M, and was soon baptized.
I just love Elder Holland,s Compassion.💙
Times are shorter and we need to be stronger than the Avon lady:) I have some family members i wish , I pray daily that i can reach. Their hearts are hard. I have just been loving them no matter what, but if I bring up anything gospel related they shut down, leave or get off the phone.
Talk about Christ-like perseverance! Here is another encouraging quote (also from Elder Holland) that might provide some encouragement: “If we can just have some feelings for the gospel, if we just love each other, I suppose that’s a place to begin. And if those children are unresponsive, maybe you can’t teach them yet, but you can love them. And if you love them today, maybe you can teach them tomorrow.” I’m sure you’re doing a great job loving them! www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2007/06/teaching-and-learning-in-the-church
Yep I'm having similar experiences with my family all except my mother who has dementia and my sister in law who can't understand why my other siblings treat me that way. I do enjoy my video chats with my Mum though and yesterday she held up her glass Nativity scene that lights up and plays Christmas carols for me to see and said "This is for you when I'm gone , Linda, as I know that you'll appreciate it " Today we talked of childhood memories and I learned how she struggled in school with her reading and writing. It sounds as though she may have had dyslexia but she has overcome so much and worked as a printer and book binder as a young woman and became an auxiliary nurse in her 30s. She believes in God and loves to tune into Songs of Praise each Sunday. We've even sung carols and hymns on some of our video chats as they bring her so much joy. I'm so grateful for her faith and example of trusting in God especially over the last 13 years since Dad passed through the veil.
@@latterdaydivers thank you for this quote as this is a timely answer to my prayers this weekend 🙏💝
What comforted words on this chapter!!!!!! I'm so grateful for the True Gospel our Lovely Heavenly Father prepared for us to know!!!!!! 🙏❤️
This is easily one of my favorite (if not my favorite) speech by him
when was this given? was it general conference? I want my daughter who is on a mission to hear it but she can't watch youtube videos.
@ericludwig9014 it was an MTC devotional from years ago. I’m afraid I may not have the original anymore.
@@latterdaydivers Thank you for letting me know. All the best to you.
Absolutely love this.
My Grandpa's bro!
Wait a second. Are you for real??!!
Wallace Toronto, yes.
So cool, small world! Thanks for sharing.
El perfecto. I am magnetized to Elder Hollands conviction.
A true apostle of God speaking truth wherever he goes.
Thanks this quick video helped in my study of the BOM
Elder Holland, accounts like this one are spiritually comforting indeed. And these accounts are happening all across the world with many missionaries. I've experienced some truly poignant accounts myself while serving a full-time mission. This is a divine witness of how the Lord goes before us, on our right hand and our left and behind us, as He touches the hearts of all those He has already prepared through the power of the Holy Spirit to hear His divinely chosen messages through His very own called mouthpieces, the missionaries who have dedicated a portion of their lives to truly serve Him 100%. Given these circumstances, our Savior, Jesus Christ, can literally teach His sheep, as He knows each one personally and knows their every need. When truly dedicated missionaries are blessed with the power of the Holy Spirit, the messages are delivered with exactness, so as to permeate the very souls of those prepared by the Lord with piercing messages that turn their hearts to their Savior. True conversion through these divine appointments between the Lord and those that lend an ear to hear Him testify that when we're on the Lord's errand, He accomplishes His work. It's an honor to walk in His footsteps, to be His mouthpiece so that at the exact moments of conversion, His missionaries are inspired to deliver such personal wisdom that simply cannot be denied that it comes from an all knowing, all loving wise Savior. In these poignant moments, hearts are forever changed, great tears of joy are expressed, and unshakable testimonies are born. This is His work. Jesus Christ is our risen Lord and Redeemer, and He is inviting all souls upon this earth to come unto HIM and join His fold in this, the true church of Jesus Christ. I know of this process personally, and I testify that His miracles happens daily. Jesus Christ is the Savior of this world, He lives and leads us all along His covenant path. I so testify in the sacred name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
This was so heartfelt and well written. Thank you for your powerful testimony and insight!
@@latterdaydivers You're welcome! Thank you for bringing us all such inspirational videos. We're all in this together. 🙇♀️🙏💕
😢😢😢😢😢Thank-you so very much.
Bro... this was so good
Thanks for checking it out!!
I’ve heard that same type of situation with friends from South America. Their mother had a friend who lives at a child before baptism and was told the same thing. Then they were found by missionaries from the church and regained hope.
Thank you❤
Beautiful...
Beautiful Truth!!!
One of my favorite talks
And I have come across people who believe if anyone is not baptized, anyone,goes to hell!
Sad!
Thank God and everyone else who goes out and teaches.Dont forget this story and other people who believe in the same please 📖❤️🙏
“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:8-9
Read the Bible, Mormons. Your eternity depends on it.
When I was in grade school my classmate went to catechism every Thu. afternoon. I asked what they learned and he said I was going to hell because I didn't believe in Christ. I said I didn't even know about Christ! How can I be damned if no one gave me a chance?! I concluded that church wasn't for me! I went to BYU Hawaii and felt God's love for the first time when my bishop said God wanted him to give me a blessing. I couldn't believe the love I felt under his hands - not from him but from God himself! So many points of doctrine agreed with what I had concluded a genuine church must teach, but the love of the Savior and Heavenly Father was what convinced me to be baptised. My heart aches for all those parents who have been told the same thing about children they've lost! Thank you for posting! I think you should change the title to reflect that for those who lost their children and are searching for answers to comfort their hearts; "what happens to children who die at a young age" perhaps.
I went to BYU H as well. What I learned there helped solidify my testimony. Aloha.
awesome love it
Thank you.
He is awesome
Olympia have decided to publish my book The Power of Unity (and other insights from God) hopefully it will be published in book stores and online in 2021.
I’ve had a priest tell me I’d was dammed and so was my child, because I wasn’t married in the Catholic Church.
What a terrible thing to say to you. How dare them!!
L L. Thanks for sharing. I learned that shocking and horrifying Catholic belief this year.
♥🌹
Moira
From England.
I love Elder Holland and he is on point about Chastity, purity and the Commandment to live clean lives. However, i differ on his position on homosexual lesbian policy that we cannot pass judgement on unnatural feelings. I believe the Lord has made it clear on the sodom and gomorrah case. With the power of choice and the Lords Atonement we can resist the urge to want to engage in unnatural acts. Sin begins is first conceived in the mind then matures to an act. When it is resisted in the mind, the person refuses to be mastered by sin and temptation. God has given us the power to be lords, rulers and masters over sin........
This is a truly beautiful and uplifting experience. For both the woman and the elders. Unfortunately, my a dear friend commented on it and received a reply, supposedly from Elder Holland, requesting that she call a doctor at a Nigerian orphanage to help them as much as she was able. I read this reply that she received. It involved a ‘revelation” that ‘Elder Holland’ supposedly had about her. Concerned, I read replies to other people commenting on the video and this same revelation/request was sent to every one of the commenters I looked at. Please be careful. I believe that Elder Holland’s account might have been hacked. If you know a way to reach out to him to let him know about this, please do so. I pray that this Christmas season finds you and your families safe.
That was not Elder Holland. He would never direct people to do the things that reply stated.
It sickens me that ministers actually think a loving God could condemn an innocent baby for not bing baptized. What evil they have in their hearts!
whoaaaa~ this is what my son would call a "machete moment" for the missionaries (he served in Honduras) the ones Elder Holland is addressing, not the good Elders on the porch.
We also know what is in the Book of Mormon about the secret combinations which have come up out of the darkness into broad daylight, brazenly displaying their covenant crafts while trying to apply the chains of bondage of their leader who they worship, and have made covenants with, Satan.
What
"Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me."
I truly love my Mormon friends and neighbors, but they have been led astray.
Do you think our doctrines disagree with what you just said?
@@christianlassen1577 "as God is, man may become" If man can become like God, then there will be other God's formed after him. I understand the Lds church take on this, but I believe it has erred
@@Lee-xn8by Do you think he's talking Chronologically? Or did our English bibles just translate it that way? like the commandment says, "Thou Shalt Have No other Gods *Before* Me" How could a person create a god Before God?
We have one God and one God alone. Just like you have/had one Father and one Father only. And no matter how mature you become as a person, you will only every have one Father, and he will ALWAYS be your father, no matter where you go and what you do.
So it is with our Heavenly Father. Our God. He will always be our God, no one else. And we should never look to anyone else but him for worship, admiration, and pursuit.
We have been promised that we can become like him and receive all that he has. We are His Children.
As for other Gods, we don't know anything about any other Gods, so it's an interesting thought experiment to think there could be other God's, but that's entirely speculation. So, again, because we don't know anything, AND because we've been commanded to, we worship and pray to our Heavenly Father and Him alone.
@@christianlassen1577I have studied the same translations that Jesus and the Apostles would of read from and came away with the exact same belief in a literal translation of one Lord God. If you haven't already, I'd encourage you to study passages in the Jewish language. Isaiah 44:6 As a mother and a grandma, I would never say "there are no other mother's and grandmother's beside me"
@@Lee-xn8by If your kids were prone to ignore you and listen to to their friends mom, what would you say to them? If they came to you and said, "Sarah's Mom said I could! Other moms think it's okay" You'd respond with, "I'm your Mom, you have no other mom's but me, and your are to listen to me and Me alone." So God says to us, "I am your God. There are no other Gods but me, you listen to me. I am your Savior, your protector, and your creator. The only way you've got a chance at this universe is through me."
Idolatry was the primary sin of ancient (and let's face it, Modern) peoples. Thinking that their own efforts, their own works could save them. "I made this statue, and it will protect me." "We built this golden idol, it will protect our nation". This leads to selfishness, ingratitude, arrogance, and then onto every other vice and sin. Looking to God for everything, including forgiveness, our salvation and eternal life, makes us be humble, obedient, grateful, and thus more focused on righteousness and doing what's Good.
Latter-Day Saints recognize God and his power and His power alone. We also have been taught by God that He wants to give us EVERYTHING HE HAS. Even CS Lewis, not a Latter-Day Saint, recognized this potential and spoke of it often. Every Good Parent wants their child to grow up like them. God is our Father. I'm so grateful to know of him and glad for everything he's done for me.
when was this given? was it general conference? I want my daughter who is on a mission to hear it but she can't watch youtube videos.
Amen!
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So where in the BOM does Mormon state "wait until 8"? Chapter and verse, please
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Every scripture is the greatest but you as men in GODs church y can't you except D/C. 132. 64. That woman chosen to be single. None can Get between her n GOD. I say this in the name of JESUS CHRIST amen
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What's in Moroni:8 then? Don't you wanna run and read it.
Unfortunately, the treatment that this woman received is all to common was born in the Bible belt, and this is exactly how Baptist preachers treat those that are not a part of their congregation or that do not live up to their standards. I am so glad that is not the way of the LDS community. At least not with my experience.
war of the worlds my friend i understand you don't like music some times media and such like i know that but i ask you for a song with truth its the spirit of mankind
i loved my friends at latterday but im hurt by some behaviour of some congregations i love all with out biast and its unconditional
We often say "The Gospel is perfect, the Church is too, then we open the doors and all us imperfect people come in..." It can be so hard and hurtful when people within the church are judgmental of other people's imperfections,and act self righteous- I have to try hard to remember not to judge them for the things they need to work on, as that will only distract me from all I NEED to work on.. I am so so sorry you were mistreated, misunderstood and hurt, and hope you find joy and healing through your relationship with God.He surely understands how you are feeling! Don't miss out on the blessings of The Gospel because you were so hurt. You are certainly not alone in those thoughts and feelings after hurtful experiences like yours. Thank you for sharing your experience, it will certainly help others know they are not alone in experiencing things simular to what you have!
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I’m a Mormon.
We should believe the Scriptures, not man.
And the Scriptures testify the Mormon Church is the only true Church of Jesus Christ on earth.
But if something is taught that can't be verified by Scripture, think twice about believing it.
I understand why so many people are leaving the church.
Many false doctrines exist causing countless RUclips videos mocking Mormonism.
False doctrines like grandpa gods, (God the Father has a father), Mormons becoming gods of their own planets, Adam helped create the earth, Christ and Satan are brothers, God the Father has rarely spoken in Scripture, the African Americans were bad in the pre-existence; all of which no Scripture verifies.
And each Sunday the Sacrament is tainted because only Elders and Priests can administer but the Deacons prepare/administer and the Teachers pass/administer the Sacrament. (D&C 20:57)
And the Lord says, He’s bound when we do what He says but if not there is no promise. (D&C 82:10)
…that the scriptures might be fulfilled; for ye shall do according to that which is written. (D&C 24:14)
And we wonder why there’s depression, mental illness and other unspeakable events among us?
And many are leaving the church because if you don't fit the mold the church leaders sculpture you're not a part of the click.
Mormons believe the church leaders over Scripture.
The zealous believers have the church leaders in mind with everything thing they think say and feel testifying to impress others how much they believe the current church leaders are God-inspired.
But the Scriptures reveal the church leaders are the problem with the entire planet.
For example,
In 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 we are informed of a person revealed as the son of perdition
This son of perdition sits in the temple of God making himself God or above all that is called God.
Therefore, if the Mormon Church is the only true church, and I believe it is and will back that belief using the Scriptures, then the only person 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 could be talking about is the current Mormon prophet.
For what other church is the one and only true church with temples?
And Joseph Smith taught a son of perdition can only be a church member holding all the rights of God's priesthood and using the priesthood against God as did Judas.
Therefore, who else other than the current Mormon prophet could the apostle Paul be speaking of?
It's as plain as the nose on a face.
And even God in the Doctrine and Covenants tells us about the current church leaders and how displeased He is saying the end of this world will begin among them. (D&C 112:23-26)
Joseph Smith taught the false doctrine of grandpa gods (God the Father has a father) not over the pulpit as a prophet but as a sermon at a funeral, which should not be taken as Scripture fulfilling God’s sayings to Paul, And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (2 Thessalonians 2:11)
That they might be damned who believed not the truth….(2Thessalonians 2:12)
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. (Revelation 13:7) (D&C 112:23-26)
And the current Mormon prophet is the son of perdition because he has all the saints believing God our Heavenly Father was created by a being greater than Himself but Scripture says there is no greater than our God. (Hebrews 6:13)
Therefore, the son of perdition has all the saints breaking the first commandment God gave Moses,
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Does it make sense to reasonable thinking that God would command we have no other gods before Him but really there are?
Does He not want us to know this?
Why is it a secret?
There’s a reason He commanded to have no other gods before Him.
Because by believing in false grandpa gods the saints believe our God is an infinitely lesser God putting Lucifer before God.
And the moment we put a god before our God, our God becomes an infinitely lesser God.
Not only that, our God also becomes a liar.
He and the Scriptures says He is the greatest of all.
He and the Scriptures says He is the Most High God.
He and the Scriptures say He created all things.
And in the Scriptures He says over and over there are no gods beside Him. (Isaiah 44:6) (Isaiah 44:8) (Isaiah 45:22) (Hebrews 6:13)
Therefore, the saints believing there are gods before Him is the saints believing the son of perdition or the current Mormon prophet over the Scriptures and calling God and the Scriptures a lie.
And Isaiah warns,
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20)
The saints call the son of perdition (President Nelson) good and good (Jesus Christ) evil.
Because President Nelson says Christ and His Father are liars.
President Nelson says Christ did not create all things. (John 1:1-3)
Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed the scientists say therefore the son of perd. or President Nelson says the grandpa gods created these calling Christ and the Scriptures a lie.
Well did Abinadi warn the wicked king Noah and his priests,
Have ye taught this people that they should observe to do all these things for to keep these commandments? (Mosiah 13:25)
I say unto you, Nay; for if ye had, the Lord would not have caused me to come forth and to prophesy evil concerning this people. (Mosiah 13:26)
And what is the commandment Abinadi taught that the people do not obey?
Thou shalt have no other God before me. (Mosiah 12:35)
Know ye not that I speak the truth? Yea, ye know that I speak the truth; and you ought to tremble before God. (Mosiah 12:30)
And it is a false doctrine to say God our Heavenly Father has rarely spoke to us in Scripture.
(3Nephi 27:26), (3Nephi 24:1). (2Nephi 31:20), (2Nephi 31:11) (D&C 49:20), (3Nephi 20:29) (D&C 49:5), (Moses chapters 1-2)
Beware of the doctrine of the scribes and Pharisees. (Matthew 16:6-12)
now if only there were any good evidence for god at all
@Elder Jeffrey R. Holland This last reply if a hoax. Elder Holland would not respond to you in this way Mr. Berenger. Do not fall for this scam.
Take a look at discussions by Stephen Meyer, James Tour, and Michael Behe on evidence for intelligent design of creation. These are available on RUclips.
@John Berenger: There are many evidences for the existence of God and His intimate presence in our lives, and I can tell you of how you can see it for yourself. The evidence is obtainable through experimentation, is reinforced upon repetition, and there are many many people who testify to it, including the prophets, both ancient and modern. But you see, it is a common but unfortunate belief that evidence for God and spiritual things must be of the kind that can be shared directly with other people in order to be believable. But spiritual things are communicated directly to our spirits, though their effects can be seen in all facets of life.
I suggest studying Alma chapter 32 in the Book of Mormon, and Moroni 10:3-5 to see what I am talking about regarding experimenting to verify the word of God, including the process God has said we should follow if we really want to know He is there and His words are true, as well as how he will show us the evidence. See, just as you would expect if God existed, knowing him comes on His terms, not ours, so it is necessary for is to be humble and pursue this knowledge precisely as he instructs. If we will not bring ourselves to do this, how can we say that we are ready for the knowledge He has to give us? How can we expect Him to answer in that situation? But those scriptural promises of faith and knowledge are true, and you will find them if you truly desire them.
Best wishes to you and good traveling on the path you will tread.
What evidence do you have that there is no God? I say that you have none, save it be your word only.
I have a testimony that there is a God. The scriptures are laid before you, and all things denote there is a God; even the earth, and all things that are upon the face of it, and its motion, and also all the planets which move in their regular form do witness that there is a Supreme Creator.
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Real Presence in the Eucharist
Who is Right and Who is wrong?
RIGHT
Jesus and St. John
St. John 6:
35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst.
36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe.
37 All that the Father gives me will come to me; and him who comes to me I will not cast out.
38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me;
39 and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up at the last day.
40 For this is the will of my Father, that every one who sees the Son and believes in him should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day."
41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, "I am the bread which came down from heaven." 42 They said, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does he now say, 'I have come down from heaven'?"
43 Jesus answered them, "Do not murmur among yourselves.
44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, 'And they shall all be taught by God.' Every one who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me.
46 Not that any one has seen the Father except him who is from God; he has seen the Father.
47 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.
48 I am the bread of life.
49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died.
50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh."
52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"
53 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;
54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me.
58 This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever."
66 After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him.
67 Jesus said to the twelve, "Do you also wish to go away?"
68 Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life;
69 and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God."
If these Jews had misunderstood Jesus, then Jesus would have been obliged to clarify what He had said, as He did with with Nichodemus (St. John 1:1-9) and the woman at the well (St. John 4:7-15), because He is the way, the truth and the life. Jesus did not engage in any “clarification which confirms that what He said was to be taken literally.
Jesus and St. Matthew
St. Matthew 6:
11 Give us this day our daily bread;
25* "Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you shall eat or what you shall drink, nor about your body, what you shall put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?
31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?'
... confirmed by Jesus and St. Luke
St. Luke 11:
3 Give us each day our daily bread;
St. Luke 12:
22 And he said to his disciples, "Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you shall eat, nor about your body, what you shall put on
29 And do not seek what you are to eat and what you are to drink, nor be of anxious mind.
It is clear from the double repetition about not worrying about what to eat in the same chapter in St. Matthew and the next chapter in St. Luke, the the daily bread in the Lord's Prayer is different from normal daily food.
Jesus and St. Matthew
St. Matthew 26:
26 Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is my body."
27 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, "Drink of it, all of you;
28 for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
Jesus and St. Mark and St. Peter, for whom St. Mark wrote
St. Mark 14:
22 And as they were eating, he took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to them, and said, "Take; this is my body."
23 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, and they all drank of it.
24 And he said to them, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.
Jesus and St. Luke
St. Luke 22:
19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
20 And likewise the cup after supper, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.
Jesus, St. Luke, Cle'opas and his companion
St. Luke 24:
30 When he was at table with them, he took the bread and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to them.
31 And their eyes were opened and they recognized him; and he vanished out of their sight.
32 They said to each other, "Did not our hearts burn within us while he talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the scriptures?"
33 And they rose that same hour and returned to Jerusalem; and they found the eleven gathered together and those who were with them,
34 who said, "The Lord has risen indeed, and has appeared to Simon!"
35 Then they told what had happened on the road, and how he was known to them in the breaking of the bread.
St. Paul
1 Corinthians 11:
23 For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread,
24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me."
25 In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me."
26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.
27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord.
28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.
St. Ignatius of Antioch and St. Irenaeus
The early Church Fathers interpreted these passages literally. In summarizing the early Fathers' teachings on Christ's Real Presence, renowned Protestant historian of the early Church, J.N.D. Kelly, writes: “Eucharistic teaching it should be understood at the outset, was in general unquestioningly realistic, i.e. The consecrated bread and wine were taken to be, and were treated and designated as, the Saviour's body and blood.” (Early Christian Doctrines, 440)
From the Church's early days, the Fathers referred to Christ's presence in the Eucharist . Kelly writes: “Ignatius roundly declares that ... [t]he bread is the flesh of Jesus, the cup his blood. Clearly he intends this realism to be taken strictly, for he makes it the basis for his argument against the Docetists' denial of the reality of Christ's body ... Irenaeus teaches that the bread and wine are really teh Lord's body and blood. His witness is indeed, all the more impressive because he produces it quite incidentally while refuting the Gnostic and Docetic rejection of the Lord's humanity.”
St. Ignatius of Antioch died circa 110 A.D.
St. Irenaeus died circa 202 A.D.
All Christians up until 1525.
Luther and some Lutherans
1525 Zwingli began teaching in Zurich a rejection of the Real Presence and Transubstantiation. By the Colloquy of Marburg in 1529, his views were so opposed to Christ's and the Church's teaching that even Luther had enough and opposed Zwingli.
All Catholics up until the present time.
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Some Jews of Jesus' time.
St. John 6:
66 After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him.
Zwingli and all Protestants
1525 Zwingli began teaching in Zurich a rejection of the Real Presence and Transubstantiation. By the Colloquy of Marburg in 1529, his views were so opposed to Christ's and the Church's teaching that even Luther had enough and opposed Zwingli.
Http:// lutherantheologystudygroup.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-zwingli-rejected-real-presence-in.html
The Marburg Colloquy was a meeting held in Marburg Castle, Margburg, Hesse, Germany to resolve the dispute between Martin Luther and Huldrych Zwingli over the Real Presence of Christ in the Lord's Supper. Although they found a consensus on 14 points. They kept differing on the last one pertaining to the Lord's Supper. Luther asserted that by Sacramental Union, the consecrated bread and wine in the Lord's Supper were united to the true body and blood Christ for all communicants to eat and drink. Zwingli considered bread and wine only symbols of the body and blood of Christ. On this issue they parted without having reached an agreement.
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Read the Bible in context. Start with the book of John. It’s a different Jesus, different Gospel and different God. I was a 6th generation Mormon for 30 years until I read the Bible. Seek the truth because your soul and eternity depends on it. Finding out if something is true doesn’t come from praying and feelings. The Bible warns us about trusting our heart. My family is all leaving the church because they’re finding the truth. I pray all Mormons seek for themselves because it’s the most important thing you’ll ever do 🙏🏻 Galatians 5, Ephesians 2, Romans 3, Colossians 1, John 1,
“Faith comes by hearing the Word of God” Romans 10:17
Does the Bible you read not say: “If any of ye lack wisdom, let him ask of God?”
Ephesians 2 is great, as it talks about a crucial foundation for the Church: “And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;”
John 14:26 also shows us that “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
God teaches us truth through the Holy Ghost as it says in the Bible and the Book of Mormon. You can pray and ask God to have the Holy Ghost make known the truth of all things, I have done so and know that the Book of Mormon is a true testament of the Lord.
@@jacobbowers7137 You just made my point very clear. James 1:5 is always taken out of context by Mormons and I use to do it to but I have repented. If you read the whole chapter, in context, you will notice it's talking about rejoicing when you face trials because it is the testinf of our faith that produces perserverence. I do ask the Lord for wisdom on that often because it's difficult to rejoice over a difficult trial. James 1:5 is NOT talking about asking wisdom on which church to join. Also I am a Christian that believes in the 5 fold ministry which is apostles, prophets, teachers, pastors and evangelists are still for today. I also believe in the Baptism by fire which is the baptism of the Holy Ghost and the evidence is speaking in tongues. I have NEVER heard a Mormon speak in tongues.... The most important thing however is knowing who Jesus is. Jesus created all things in Colossians 1:16 so Jesus could NOT be Lucifer's brother beacuse Jesus created him. I know there is no sense in giving you scripture because you are blind.... so instead I will do the most powerful thing and pray for you. The bible says Faith comes by hearing the word of God not by prayer. I don't need to pray about the Book of Mormon to know it's true. I've read it many many times and it does NOT line up with the Bible so thats how I know its not true. God Bless You
The truth in spirit flows eternally forward the body lies to the spirit and it flows eternally reverse/revere from truth, those who are stuck in the material plain will live Revelation and those who follow after the spirit find truth, what Jesus did was healed the spirit and the body. Those who seek the end in Revelations will find it and those who seek the truth in the beginning will find the veil leaving their eyes. Judgement comes to only those who judge, you have your will of creation upon all creation so judge not less ye be, judged yourself. All is forgiven, death/darkness took possession of all word, it is only his fault. Everything I've learned, I have learned on my own. I have never read the Bible till after I had my dreams with Jesus, he himself explained things to me. I explained everything in my book. Everyone has all word of creation upon them, each word has their own cell of aura, it is a firmament as this Galactic cell is the body of Christ, it has an aura and you are a word of creation within the body of Christ, you live the body of Christ and he has already died for your sins, that has enabled him as The Lord of Hosts. Within the handshake of all things, Jesus was the Body, he lived the experience of the spirit of the most high and the will of the father is the will within the body of Christ he gets to live the body of Christ with no powers, only faith, he will only present himself by the word and he stands firm with all the word. Genesis, Moses is not leading us into the book of word he is leading us out, back to the beginning. (Example) God placed a firmament between all the word and us as word have been placed within a six feet firmament caused by the corona-tion/crown lasted a year. Next is the (word was God) goes on all this year. Next year the word will start understanding these things and it will be, the (word was with God.) Next year after the word will have their full understanding of these things and God will be one with (the Word) as they are the bride to the body of Messiah, then Jesus by will, have ascended to the father, Jesus is proof that even death will experience life. (Bible says, God comes by the truth of your heart is your crown)means/corona, it is also your body and your Galactic cell upon Omega. We are the word of God and our actions are the signs of word, welcome to the corona/tion. Each sentence in the Bible is a sentence from order and each sentence is a year sentence as (1 in the beginning was the word) and (2 the word was with God) and (3 the word was God) (4 and the corona/crown has placed us as word six feet of firmament from each other.) Truth of word flows eternally forward as the distortion of truth is number, numb/cold power numb/ber. The multitudes are being taken back from death/darkness as legion is many, took everything from all the word. The light in the darkness is this grain of earth within this universal body and it is protecting all of life as you have a Galactic cell out there and this Galactic cell we are in right now is the body of Christ, you live the body of Christ within Omega as you have all word/will of creation upon you, within each cell is a throne, for all word of creation, you have your will/word of creation upon equal me/a/sure, you are a universal body, when this is over you will be shown all your action and consequence upon your Galactic realm and when trust is earnt you will claim your universal body again, within this multiverse. (universe/unity of verse/unity of word. I wrote a book it is all over the world, the book is called, The last shall be the first and the first shall be the last by Joseph Darrell Walker. If you know the Bible then you will know everything. Voices in head are not mental, think positive and legion as he is many will leave. Genesis/Moses isn't leading us into the darkness, he is walking us out of it, so read 4,3,2,1, and it will make better sense. All things fall, back to GOD, Isaiah 11;12. The more you wake people up, by that measure has woke up unto you so speak truth to the fullest and you will find faith walking within you. clkhg
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The Book of Mormon teaches that Moroni was a great man, a renown warrior who died and became an angel. The Holy Bible does not teach that a man can become an angel when he dies, this is false teaching. Therefore, since this teaching is false, Moroni is a
false messenger and The Book of Mormon is a False Gospel.
The angels that ministered to Lot were men that died and were called to minister as angels.
FUN FACT: Joseph Smith came up with the names "Moroni" and "Comorah" from the adventures of Captain Cook in the Indian Ocean, which were popular in New York during the early 1800's! The capital of the Comoros Islands is Moroni! How cool is that?
FUN Fact: this has actually is false! In the Captain Kidd (not cook, sorry, you must have not read the “super scholarly” CES letter very well) books don’t ever mention the name Moroni... not once.
Oh look cults at work.
How can you believe a lie so profoundly?
You can believe through the Holy Ghost. If you pray to know if something is true and honestly listen in your heart for the answer that comes, you can feel the Holy Spirit confirm its truth if it is true. I encourage you to pray about the truth of this message. God knows you and each of us and loves you and each of us! I wish you the best in all your doings!