For those curious, the name of the movie for the opening scene is a movie called “The Balcony” it’s a WILD movie that’s all imma say 😅 especially for that era! But here’s my favorite quote from Ruby.. “My whole life is not defined by what Hollywood does.” -Ruby Dee… watch “Diana Dors S3X parties & crimes against Y0UNG girls? She used her beauty to hide her DARK secrets!” ruclips.net/video/deAd1a5pb8Q/видео.html NEXT
Th❤ese relationships do not teach each partner how to deal with the crises that the other is experiencing. Rage, sorrow, vulnerability will occur and when they are not appreciated dynamite can explode!
I once met Hur and Hur Husband; it was an event at a location in Manhattan bhhh l was taken away, to my surprise, when l met/ ran into a friend dear...they must had ben in dear early 50s and had a southern hospitality like feel and attitude ...shh was; they both were very nice bhhh he just sat there w his large eyes looking into mines....she was lively/ lovely smiling and self. I had no idea there may had ben a free marriage device in the works bhhh it do explain some unanswered defuddleent, mmm arm on a retreat.
Thank YOU! That movie was my first and uppermost question! I read their duel autobiography and found the open marriage theme a very small time of their long lives together. Once was enough for Miss Dee.
You know doctors exist for you to get tested.a lot of yall love to say yall can't do open relationships yet are with men that cheat constantly. It makes no sense
@@rucianapollard7098 you can't tell other people how to be in their relationships....yall love complaining about it but always getting cheated on so what's the diffrence really
Also, I'm good enough to be an "only." I'm not some first- or second-string player on a team. I couldn't care less who disagrees, if I'm in a relationship, we belong to each other, not in a manner of ownership but in loyalty. It's an entirely different sense of belonging, like when people search for belonging in general.
Single huh? It seems a lot of black women are latching on to this. Being with someone doesn't always mean compromising happiness and health. If that were so people wouldn't still be getting married and being in relationships.
I don't think she inspired it for Jada bec Will said Jada never believed in monogamy due to the unconventional marriages of some of her family members. Will seemed like he just went along with it
@@KarineAlourde Then Will and/or Jada are lying about one of those two things they said. Will said in an interview that Jada never believed in monogamy. In GQ magazine Will said "Jada never believed in conventional marriage. Jada had family members that had an unconventional relationship. So she grew up in a way that was very different than how I grew up. There were significant endless discussions about, what is relational perfection? What is the perfect way to interact as a couple?"
I once saw an interview with Ossie Davis where he said, "Ruby can leave, as long as she takes me with her." I thought that was the most precious thing, and a true testament of his love for her.
She and Ossie Davis said it was a temporary thing, more like a marital experiment, but he announced they should end it, and she was relieved and happily agreed!
That's interesting. Magazines like Ebony left the impression this was a permanent thing in their marriage which led to others to assume open marriages are healthy. The opposite is true. Marriage is about a committed relationship between one man and one woman. No matter what culture one subscribes to or which nation they hail...extramaterital affairs both in secret or in the open hurt marriages. There is no changing that.
@Toasted Almond When I read that, she said they also ended it because people were getting hurt, getting too attached to them, because they never even considered having a serious relationship outside of their marriage or ever ending their marriage! From what I read and understood, it was just a method to spice up their marriage after many years together! I think it may have started in their middle age and lasted for some years, but not throughout their marriage!
From what I've discovered, when It comes to these open marriages or open relationships, someone will always get shafted." No pun intended. But no matter how so called equal they want the relationship arrangement to be. Someone will always give more than they were willing to and someone will always catch feelings more for whomever, and someone will always get hurt in the end. Overall, It's so not worth it at all!
@@thayilakshmi Just stay single why take marriage vows and do the opposite? Can’t control the emotions of 3rd and 4th parties. Sounds like set up for fatal attractions and Pap smears with bad results
@@tomjones3629 You are entitled to your own opinion…based on your name lol why are you even commenting? I’m really starting to see a trend here. It’s like fuck you guys can’t leave us alone in our own spaces always meddling into our stuff😂
In her and Ossie's audiobook 'With Ossie and Ruby' they both mention how it was a temporary thing and they realized they didn't want to share the other, nor share with others their intimate side. They're motto was 'No disease, no disgrace' ❤
@The Blackest Truth. Damn, ole Ruby was gettin it in during her heyday. 😆 Oh well 🤷🏿♂️… nothing new under the sun. It was rumored that Josephine Baker and Freida Carla( or Carlo) had a relationship.
I saw Ruby interviewed in her later years and she said that this period was the absolute lowest point of their marriage. She was NOT happy in their marriage at that time.
Exactly!!! She came to her dam senses, because in the end it doesn’t work, look at Monique and her husband, getting a divorce after she swore open marriage was so great 😮
@@ntuan9360 , No. It doesn't work longterm. Especially with kids involved. You might has well have a 3-some orgy, if there are no kids involved. Then, it _might_ be "fun".
I been Married for 35years this year and I believe people get joy from open relationships but for me I always think about my children and being a father of Daughters I always wanted them to see a father that Loves their Mother and can one day stay my Father didn’t cheat please keep up the good work I Love these shows
There's absolutely nothing wrong with believing in The Most High Elohim and being single and celibate. I simply can't handle sharing or betrayal. Easier to be alone, beautiful, and desirable. APTTMHY 🙌🏾
Why do people think that's ok? Sharing is physically unsafe not to mention emotional. That's why Hollywood is rampant with hidden STDs and random kids tucked everywhere. It's sad.
Very interesting video. She was so beautiful,she was a very talented actress.I loved that she was an activist for Civil Rights,her and Ossie Davis. Thank you!!!
People in those types of relationships can actually catch feelings for someone that’s not their spouse, and it happens in traditional relationships too.
It's really frustrating how the word "class" is misused these days. The people that get called "classy" just boggles my mind. What they really mean is "attractive" and wealthy, and it's usually reserved for lighter-skinned people, because when medium- to darker-skinned people do the same, they're typically not called "classy." We know this. I love me some Beyoncé, but if you compare her to Megan Thee Stallion, Beyoncé gets called "classy" all the time, even though she curses in her music, shakes her behind, wears revealing clothing, speaks explicitly about s/ex, etc. But if you tried to say to someone, "Megan Thee Stallion is classy like Beyoncé," they would read you for filth, and if you asked them what's the difference, there'd be a lot of excuses. Love both women and am a fan of both, btw.
When I say class, I am referring to the way she carried herself. I don't agree with open relationships either, but since that was an agreement within her relationship, I don't have a say in it one way or another. Despite the fact, they kept their tryst relatively private, and when the issue became problematic for their children, they readjusted. That is classy. A far cry from celebrity relationships we see today, or heck even then - some other celebrities were very openly messy with their relationships. I wouldn't call MTS or Beyonce classy. Beautiful, sure. Again, to me, it's in how one carries themselves.
Mrs. Ruby Dee was such a beautiful soul. I met her while she was doing a play and I was working for the company. She was so nice and became a grandmother to everyone there. I just loved talking to her and Mr. Davis about life. Such a blessing to be able to meet them both. Edit: An administrator at my son's middle school is Mrs. Dee's granddaughter and I got to share my experiences with her grandparents.
How blessed you are to have met her and just be in the same space as her!! Thank you Karine for this mini-doc on Ruby Dee, I learned so much. Now I wanna go and find all of the movies that you had in the video and I want to binge watch her. Her acting ability is and was top notch. I don't know if you mentioned her getting an Oscar, and if she didn't, she sure should have gotten one!! But you know what, we know that she's great...Keep her memory alive!! Thx again Karine...this was awesome!! Everybody give this video a "like"!! 🙂
One particular thing I recall from an old interview is when they said an open marriage was a great experience -until one or the other person links with someone that's hard to let go that was deep
Its called ADULTERY in GOD'S sight no matter what these people call it to justify what they do. Hope they repented before it was too late because GOD is Gracious.
@@tarawalker7193Same here but I am not surprised. Past or present, I put nothing past these public personalities. The way most people are ready slap them with "iconic" or "role models" for labels makes me laugh. I'm like, you don't know these people beyond the image they sell you.
I'm against open marriage but to each it's own. My body belongs to my husband and him only. In this day and time it's too dangerous for all that extra stuff. Spiritually, mentally and physically it's better to be with one person (drama free)
Corinthians 7:2-11 - But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.
@@phillyrich3249 you missed the point of to each his own…… You live by your standards without the preach, or pedestal position for you to others. By linking it to someone else’s statement of that starts with, to each his own…., you bring down the golden rule with your church. Preach on the street, or another post.
Ruby Dee & Ossie Davis were iconic. Their autobiography was very powerful & amazing. They didn't need to talk about their open relationship because it was nobodys business. Very ahead of there time. I applaud them for their honesty. They were pioneers of so much. Legendary. Thanks for this episode.
I believe they did love each other, it was just the insecurities of Hollywood that made them feel like they had no other choice but to have an open marriage
I would've never thought or guessed this about Ozzie or Ruby. There is absolutely no way I'm sharing my husband OR my body with another and call myself a child of the Most High!!!
Open marriages are dumb. Why get married if you aren't going to stay devoted to the person you married. If you want to sleep with other people, stay single. Simple as that.
It can be a bit more nuanced than that. Some people can’t physically have sex with each other because of a disability. It’s a matter of what both people agree on🤷🏾♀️
@@ladymsthing6056 I don't buy that. Marriage vows weren't meant to be broken just because people get urges. That's what for better or for worse and through sickness and in health means. If your fidelity and loyalty can be broken because of a disability; you are ruled by desires and not sensibility or principles. There are a lot of weak people in this world.
@@ladymsthing6056 if they didn't repent going hell marriage no joke to Jesus oh Jesus hate sin when have sex before marriages everyone needs repent made normal Jesus eyes looking at sin
People need to have open conversations rather than relationships. I feel it’s a side route to not have to go deeper into talking and emotions. It’s a cop out in my book. Makes marriage unsacred. If that’s even a word.
Just discovered your work and I must say you do a fantastic job giving not only the recorded history but also capturing the dynamics of an individual's personality. Love the highlights you cover. And I must say the fact that this phenomenal couple was still protesting injustices even in their advanced years says more than words can. I only hope that I will have such courage at any stage of my life 🙏🏿
Not going to lie, this was a shocker for me to find out but I am so happy that they kept their marriage first no matter what that looked like. They made the decision to keep it respectful and to keep it private.
I learned so much from your videos! I had no idea about her relationship with Ossie. But I can't get down with an open relationship. It's just not for me. Soul-ties are real, and I wish people were more aware of that.
I always thought Ruby Dee was a beautiful woman and had a regal presence. As the young person I thought that her and Ossie Davis had a beautiful relationship and never would have thought that they had an open marriage because they stayed together so long regardless of the open relationship their love must have been true because they grew and died together.
I really enjoyed this and I believe to each is own. My theory is that I could see why having an open relationship could be tough. At the end of the day people are gonna do what they want to do,
I read an article some time ago, where Ms Ruby said that she regretted her decision to have an open marriage. She said that if she had it to do over again, she wouldn't have done it.
The irony was that her first husband permitted her to have an open relationship with Ozzie Davis and she ended up marrying him! This is why I could never feel comfortable with the knowledge that my wife was having relations with another man, and it would be even more difficult for me to trust her afterwards, no matter how much that she proclaimed to love me! Call me insecure, but I couldn't do it!
Your content is well researched and you give good context on each celebrity. I find it very interesting. Please could you do content on Niome Harris, Kylie Minogue, Kate Bush and Aja Naomi King. I would appreciate it.
An open marriage is just another word for nymphomania. It’s about sex and no self control. Why even get married, just stay long term friends with benefits. I don’t respect these types of relationships as they make a mockery of marriages. It never works out anyway.
One person I know, female, attempts this. I've known her since we were children and she has some unresolved issues about her parents not giving her the attention she wanted, or it's something of a personality disorder, idk, but she is *never* able to be alone even for a short time. If she has to make an hour drive she'll find someone to ride with her so she has someone to listen to her talk. I feel like that carries over to relationships where one person can't be all the things she demands of one person because in real life people have to work, sleep, have some alone time, and she takes that as rejection or something. So she has other people to fill in that time. From my perspective it doesn't seem healthy for anyone involved and it just allows her to ignore whatever it is in her that needs addressed and expecting other people to make her feel validated. Also, to me it just seems absolutely exhausting.
You should put that energy on marriages on which the person goes behind their partner back and constantly cheat, lies and betrays, at least for open marriages they’re honest with each other
Ruby Dee was gorgeous! I can see her having the same type of strong personality that will do what she wants when she wants! Even back then! Miss her energy!
wow she is so beautiful i never seen her so young she always had that sass and diva to her also didn’t know about her open marriage but she gorgeous and that first open scene her about to faint took me out 😂❤️💞💖💖💞💜💜
You delivered this video well. Thank you for the old footage. I didn't know how Ruby Dee looked when she was younger. She was beautiful! How she lived her life is between her and God. Her contribution as an artist in her time here I truly appreciate gift as an actress and activist.
She was so GORGEOUS! She had such an angelic beauty. I'm always blown away by the women's beauty back in the day, it's so different. We definitely don't see that now at all! As far as open marriages, I do not share!
I learned about this years ago and even though I was younger - I understood where they were coming from. I still love these two for their work and just everything what they stood for and continued to embrace their blackness ❤ Ossie was so freaking handsome and Ruby was just absolutely stunning! One of the most beautiful women in the world to me. Next to Pam Grier, Angela Bassett, Phylicia Rashad and the list continues as they age and aged magnificently❤❤❤ If you don’t agree - I don’t care. As for their open marriage - they learned, they grew and they respected each other. Their marriage isn’t my business.
Ruby Dee was a very beautiful actress, I loved her and all her movies. The open marriage thing that's between the two. Thank you for bringing this Ruby Dee video.
I was always taught that monogamy was an option, but not mandatory. So I've always been comfortable dating multiple men at the same time. I've never lied or hid it from them. I've dated men who claimed they wanted to be monogamous. Truth is they wanted ME to be monogamous, even though THEY had no intentions on doing so themselves. I was always willing to be monogamous if I ever got married. I married a man who felt the same way. We chose an open marriage. We spent years trying to be monogamous. That didn't work for us. We are both straight and not into the same people, but we're always seeing other people. Works for us. 15+ years by the way.
Cat people and Jungle Fever (Ruby Dee) You have got to do one on Jayne Kennedy (the most beautiful lady of her time) and Judy Pace (another stunning beauty) I love your channel!
Open relationships/marriages tend to end in both parts being hurt. In the beginning you never believe this, you just think everything is going to be fun and exciting and that it’s going to revive your initial relationship. But often times it leads to one part being more hurt, one part having more fun than the other (or even the only part having fun), one part (or both) catches feelings for someone else etc. It’s extremly hard to do this (probably even impossible). Everyone should have the right to explore whatever part of their life they want but there will always be consequences. And if you have kids I really believe if you as parents really really wanna fo this thing, ok, but then the kids should not know about this. I really think it’s messing them up. Kids should stay away from this type of experiences of their parents.
From my own understanding life is just experiences..some work in your favor while some require re-thinking what's best for all involved not just ourselves. Thank you soo much for this video and all the great content on your channel.
I love her in anything she has done,my favorite,as Ruth in a raisin in the sun,their eyes were watching god as Hallie Berry's grandmother,and that spike Lee joint,she was so pretty,smart,and delicate and strong at the same time....
Ruby Dee and Ossie Davis were superb role models and their marriage always appeared to be rock solid. I loved Ruby in Raisin in the Sun. Thanks, for this outstanding video.
These open relationships only work for celebrities, they don't have the money arguments or the stresses of being at work, they can move, play, hang out together, and do anything at anytime, regular folk have things going on that will make that open relationship get out of control.
Oh, please. She and Ossie said in their memoir they tried an open marriage, but it didn't work for them and they stopped. It wasn't like it was for years.
My confusion over the open marriage remains with why get married at all? Stay single and mingle🤷♀️ and don't have kids to cause them distress. Seems far simpler. But, the open marriage allows the illusion of both, which I guess is the allure. One can show the presumed stability and maturity of a marriage whilst continuing to roam and neither partner can easily stop the other, I guess? Seems like far too much work with too many potential downsides.
An amazingly thought-provoking woman. I enjoyed her story as the straightforward honest introspective approach is best in my view. I particularly enjoyed the annotation of the growth experience, how she unapologetically chose to learn from her experiences and letting the yield from those experiences afford her the insight to change her mind in an informed manner. Indeed, her intellect, pride, and strength made her a noteable and therefore, formidable role-model in so many ways. A queen in every since of the word, she was, indeed!
I agree with Mrs. Ruby Dee, I believe that it's not about the act of sex it is the disrespect that most people show, and she is right it is not about who you love it's that you both love and respect each other and I truly feel that honesty and trust are key pieces in making a marriage works
So much oxymorons in your statement. Hollywood lifestyle is nothing you should emulate. I guess you’ve seen how ‘happy’ Will Smith is and how ‘considerate’ Jada has been in their marriage. Absolute ’love’ and ‘respect’ in their marriage.
Most black women have always believed in open marriage or sexual freedom or however, you may choose to express it, but this belief only applies to themselves and other racial groups of people with the exception of their black male counterparts. When it comes to black males, black females and society as a whole have always taken the exception to this rule, for the prevailing belief is that black male sexuality must be policed at all costs. This belief has always been reflected in the negative attitudes about black men dating and marrying other racial groups of women. This does not only apply to black women in Hollywood, black women in general have always believed and engaged in sexually promiscuous behaviors. However, they are not willing to accept these same behaviors from their black male counterparts without protest. It is only a problem for these women when their black male counterparts start to think about these same behaviors and/or engaging in them. Statistics lends support to this conceptualization, when one considers the fact that the majority of black men don't have any children but the majority of black women have illegitimate children by different men. Statistically black women have more children by men of other races than women of any other racial group. As many black women age they will develop amnesia about their sexual exploits or behaviors in the days of their youth and point the finger at the younger people and seemly advocate for more conservative and/or Christian views and attitudes toward sex. Is this a true conversion and/or has sex just given up on them, because they may know longer be able to compete in the sexual market place? Does this sexual prudishness just reflect a means to protect their sexual relationship and/or marriage interests, because the situation has changed for them?
Why looking at young ruby dee is givin me jasmin guy vibes is it just me wow but any how she has always been a beautiful lady she also was a great actress thx for this story of her some much imformation i didnt know about her & husband ozzie i much enjoyed it!!! ❤❤❤❤
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For those curious, the name of the movie for the opening scene is a movie called “The Balcony” it’s a WILD movie that’s all imma say 😅 especially for that era! But here’s my favorite quote from Ruby.. “My whole life is not defined by what Hollywood does.” -Ruby Dee… watch “Diana Dors S3X parties & crimes against Y0UNG girls? She used her beauty to hide her DARK secrets!”
ruclips.net/video/deAd1a5pb8Q/видео.html NEXT
Th❤ese relationships do not teach each partner how to deal with the crises that the other is experiencing. Rage, sorrow, vulnerability will occur and when they are not appreciated dynamite can explode!
Diana and Ruby both 304s.
@@_carbon what is 304? March 4th?
I once met Hur and Hur Husband; it was an event at a location in Manhattan bhhh l was taken away, to my surprise, when l met/ ran into a friend dear...they must had ben in dear early 50s and had a southern hospitality like feel and attitude ...shh was; they both were very nice bhhh he just sat there w his large eyes looking into mines....she was lively/ lovely smiling and self. I had no idea there may had ben a free marriage device in the works bhhh it do explain some unanswered defuddleent, mmm arm on a retreat.
Thank YOU! That movie was my first and uppermost question! I read their duel autobiography and found the open marriage theme a very small time of their long lives together. Once was enough for Miss Dee.
I refuse to put my life and health at risk. I rather stay single than to be a part of any open relationship or marriage.
Right ✅️ Open marriage is sick, distasteful and disrespectful!! Why even bother getting married in the first place??
You know doctors exist for you to get tested.a lot of yall love to say yall can't do open relationships yet are with men that cheat constantly. It makes no sense
@@rucianapollard7098 you can't tell other people how to be in their relationships....yall love complaining about it but always getting cheated on so what's the diffrence really
Also, I'm good enough to be an "only." I'm not some first- or second-string player on a team. I couldn't care less who disagrees, if I'm in a relationship, we belong to each other, not in a manner of ownership but in loyalty. It's an entirely different sense of belonging, like when people search for belonging in general.
Single huh? It seems a lot of black women are latching on to this. Being with someone doesn't always mean compromising happiness and health. If that were so people wouldn't still be getting married and being in relationships.
Why doesn’t anybody talk about her face card? She was gorgeous even in her elder years
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I know right . She's beautiful
She was Gorgeous especially them beautiful eyes ❤
My GOD, WHAT A BEAUTY!!
Absolutely beautiful woman rest in peace Queen
Ruby Dee giving me Jasmine Guy vibes. And I never knew she inspired this!
I don't think she inspired it for Jada bec Will said Jada never believed in monogamy due to the unconventional marriages of some of her family members. Will seemed like he just went along with it
She does look like Jasmine, Sarah!
@@deed2157 Jada said Ruby and Ossie gave her and Will marriage advice and inspired their decision.
@@KarineAlourde Then Will and/or Jada are lying about one of those two things they said. Will said in an interview that Jada never believed in monogamy.
In GQ magazine Will said "Jada never believed in conventional marriage. Jada had family members that had an unconventional relationship. So she grew up in a way that was very different than how I grew up. There were significant endless discussions about, what is relational perfection? What is the perfect way to interact as a couple?"
You are SO RIGHT. RUBY WAS SUPER CUTE.
I once saw an interview with Ossie Davis where he said, "Ruby can leave, as long as she takes me with her." I thought that was the most precious thing, and a true testament of his love for her.
I love that :)
She and Ossie Davis said it was a temporary thing, more like a marital experiment, but he announced they should end it, and she was relieved and happily agreed!
I KNEW THEM WHERE THEY DID THEIR HAIR. John Atchison Salons!
That's interesting. Magazines like Ebony left the impression this was a permanent thing in their marriage which led to others to assume open marriages are healthy. The opposite is true. Marriage is about a committed relationship between one man and one woman. No matter what culture one subscribes to or which nation they hail...extramaterital affairs both in secret or in the open hurt marriages. There is no changing that.
@Toasted Almond When I read that, she said they also ended it because people were getting hurt, getting too attached to them, because they never even considered having a serious relationship outside of their marriage or ever ending their marriage! From what I read and understood, it was just a method to spice up their marriage after many years together! I think it may have started in their middle age and lasted for some years, but not throughout their marriage!
From what I've discovered, when It comes to these open marriages or open relationships, someone will always get shafted." No pun intended. But no matter how so called equal they want the relationship arrangement to be. Someone will always give more than they were willing to and someone will always catch feelings more for whomever, and someone will always get hurt in the end. Overall, It's so not worth it at all!
I agree. This is my observation as well
ALWAYS
Too much body fluid swapping and spreading one self around total foolishness
I respectfully disagree. Open marriages work for those who can handle it. Most people open their relationships without giving it serious thought.
@@thayilakshmi
Just stay single why take marriage vows and do the opposite? Can’t control the emotions of 3rd and 4th parties. Sounds like set up for fatal attractions and Pap smears with bad results
Ruby Dee was the prettiest woman alive, even well into her 80's😍
She looks just like Holly Robinson Peete & Terry Ellis of En Vogue👍🏽
Pretty yes, prettiest no
Absolutely 💯
Agree!
@@tomjones3629 You are entitled to your own opinion…based on your name lol why are you even commenting?
I’m really starting to see a trend here. It’s like fuck you guys can’t leave us alone in our own spaces always meddling into our stuff😂
In her and Ossie's audiobook 'With Ossie and Ruby' they both mention how it was a temporary thing and they realized they didn't want to share the other, nor share with others their intimate side. They're motto was 'No disease, no disgrace' ❤
@The Blackest Truth. Damn, ole Ruby was gettin it in during her heyday. 😆 Oh well 🤷🏿♂️… nothing new under the sun. It was rumored that Josephine Baker and Freida Carla( or Carlo) had a relationship.
I saw Ruby interviewed in her later years and she said that this period was the absolute lowest point of their marriage. She was NOT happy in their marriage at that time.
Thanks for clearing that up!
No one really wants to share their intimate partner with another. It's against God's law
That’s what a real marriage is built on MONOGAMY ..in folks younger years they’re still a bit wild until wisdom finally kicks in
What’s crazy about that, is Ruby Dee talked about how unhappy an open marriage was for her and said it got better when they decided to be monogamous.
Exactly!!! She came to her dam senses, because in the end it doesn’t work, look at Monique and her husband, getting a divorce after she swore open marriage was so great 😮
What!! Monique getting a divorce?!!!!
I think it might only work with no kids.
@@roseofsharon4872 Hmmm. I think the OP is allergic to the truth...
@@ntuan9360 ,
No. It doesn't work longterm. Especially with kids involved. You might has well have a 3-some orgy, if there are no kids involved. Then, it _might_ be "fun".
I been Married for 35years this year and I believe people get joy from open relationships but for me I always think about my children and being a father of Daughters I always wanted them to see a father that Loves their Mother and can one day stay my Father didn’t cheat please keep up the good work I Love these shows
I bow a couple who married at 18, stayed married for 34 years, had 12 children...never cheated
Theh married in 1988
Pleasure maybe?
Thank you, you remind me of my father. A true gentleman and a good human being.
You should be faithful because you love your wife. The marriage is about you and your wife, not you and your kids.
Beautiful and inspiring . Your wife is very lucky .
There's absolutely nothing wrong with believing in The Most High Elohim and being single and celibate. I simply can't handle sharing or betrayal. Easier to be alone, beautiful, and desirable. APTTMHY 🙌🏾
I so agree with you!
Why do people think that's ok? Sharing is physically unsafe not to mention emotional. That's why Hollywood is rampant with hidden STDs and random kids tucked everywhere. It's sad.
I agree as well
Absolutely
Only God is the most high
I think open marriages is like playing with fire 🔥
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With gasoline clothes on
It's is!
Yelp! Emotions are involved. You can start to really like or love the side piece then what??? It’s just a messy dangerous situation
@@isaacwilliams1827 Woosh!! Ya better run and hide.
Very interesting video. She was so beautiful,she was a very talented actress.I loved that she was an activist for Civil Rights,her and Ossie Davis. Thank you!!!
Ruby Dee accomplished a lot in her career as an actor. RIP Queen. 💖🌻🇺🇸
People in those types of relationships can actually catch feelings for someone that’s not their spouse, and it happens in traditional relationships too.
She was a forever beauty! Class and status - I love my people!
"Class" and "open marriage" don't belong in the same sentence!!
Class? Hardly?
It's really frustrating how the word "class" is misused these days. The people that get called "classy" just boggles my mind. What they really mean is "attractive" and wealthy, and it's usually reserved for lighter-skinned people, because when medium- to darker-skinned people do the same, they're typically not called "classy." We know this.
I love me some Beyoncé, but if you compare her to Megan Thee Stallion, Beyoncé gets called "classy" all the time, even though she curses in her music, shakes her behind, wears revealing clothing, speaks explicitly about s/ex, etc. But if you tried to say to someone, "Megan Thee Stallion is classy like Beyoncé," they would read you for filth, and if you asked them what's the difference, there'd be a lot of excuses. Love both women and am a fan of both, btw.
When I say class, I am referring to the way she carried herself. I don't agree with open relationships either, but since that was an agreement within her relationship, I don't have a say in it one way or another. Despite the fact, they kept their tryst relatively private, and when the issue became problematic for their children, they readjusted. That is classy. A far cry from celebrity relationships we see today, or heck even then - some other celebrities were very openly messy with their relationships.
I wouldn't call MTS or Beyonce classy. Beautiful, sure. Again, to me, it's in how one carries themselves.
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She so freakingly beautiful I can't imagine why Ozzie would want an open marriage
Open marriages is not about beauty. 🙄
Men back then just seemed to make love to most Women.
@Valerie ok I guess I'll never get it
What I read, it was a "temporary" phase in their 50+ year marriage. They had genuine love and mutual respect for each other.
@@jokuz9133 you don't have to "get it." It's not your business to understand what other people do.
Mrs. Ruby Dee was such a beautiful soul. I met her while she was doing a play and I was working for the company. She was so nice and became a grandmother to everyone there. I just loved talking to her and Mr. Davis about life. Such a blessing to be able to meet them both.
Edit: An administrator at my son's middle school is Mrs. Dee's granddaughter and I got to share my experiences with her grandparents.
That's wonderful. They were a TALENTED couple and Mrs. Dee was beautiful. ❤️
How blessed you are to have met her and just be in the same space as her!! Thank you Karine for this mini-doc on Ruby Dee, I learned so much. Now I wanna go and find all of the movies that you had in the video and I want to binge watch her. Her acting ability is and was top notch. I don't know if you mentioned her getting an Oscar, and if she didn't, she sure should have gotten one!! But you know what, we know that she's great...Keep her memory alive!! Thx again Karine...this was awesome!! Everybody give this video a "like"!! 🙂
@Dana Vixen her and Cecily Tyson are my favorites from that generation,
Ruby was fine as wine and a great actress.
Da,m she was beautiful and sexy,and I don't think they even wore makeup, everything natural and looks wonderful on her
One particular thing I recall from an old interview is when they said an open marriage was a great experience -until one or the other person links with someone that's hard to let go that was deep
Its called ADULTERY in GOD'S sight no matter what these people call it to justify what they do. Hope they repented before it was too late because GOD is Gracious.
My thinking Exactly.
Common sense tells us that no interview needed
I met Mrs.Ruby and Ossie in Chicago in Chicago on 37th State Street. They were volunteering in the youth center
I'm glad you did this story. I've been talking about their open marriage for decades and no one believed me! You can judge a book by its cover
Who cares? Both are dead. 🙄
I never knew about it until this video.
@@tarawalker7193Same here but I am not surprised. Past or present, I put nothing past these public personalities. The way most people are ready slap them with "iconic" or "role models" for labels makes me laugh. I'm like, you don't know these people beyond the image they sell you.
@@tarawalker7193 neither did I.
@@VIsidore so why are you then? 😂
I never realized Ruby Dee played in so many movies back in the 60s
I know. I’m going to have watch them all!! ✨✨
I'm against open marriage but to each it's own. My body belongs to my husband and him only. In this day and time it's too dangerous for all that extra stuff. Spiritually, mentally and physically it's better to be with one person (drama free)
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I absolutely agree with you 💯 percent!!!!!!!
TRUTH INDEED AMEN 🙏
Corinthians 7:2-11 - But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.
@@phillyrich3249 you missed the point of to each his own…… You live by your standards without the preach, or pedestal position for you to others. By linking it to someone else’s statement of that starts with, to each his own…., you bring down the golden rule with your church. Preach on the street, or another post.
That opening scene.😂👌🏼😆
Lol she was a character 😅😅😂
@@KarineAlourde What is the name of the background music that I hear in this video , and who is performing it ?
@@clementjohnson2666 her brother most likely, it’s in description!
Ikr
Met her once. She was so kind and just iconic in energy.
Ruby Dee & Ossie Davis were iconic. Their autobiography was very powerful & amazing. They didn't need to talk about their open relationship because it was nobodys business. Very ahead of there time. I applaud them for their honesty. They were pioneers of so much. Legendary.
Thanks for this episode.
Cecily Tyson and Ruby Dee are my all time favorites, slightly behind Bette Davis.
Girl, you just made my jaw drop. 😲 I believe Ossie and Ruby loved each other, but wow! Can't be too surprised anymore. 😳
I believe they did love each other, it was just the insecurities of Hollywood that made them feel like they had no other choice but to have an open marriage
@@KarineAlourde That's Hollywood for you. 😒
Another example of why no one should put these people on a pedestal.
@@nadiar.7788 The term "couple's goals" should fly out the window. We don't know what these couples are like behind closed doors.
They did love each other. It was so much love that they could be honest with each other. Sex is just sex. Love is different.
OMG, she was gorgeous. Her face was perfect when she was younger. I've never heard of her before today, and I love learning about new (to me) people.
Ever watch Spike Lee's "Do The RightThing"? They both had wonderful Cameos in it.
Her face was perfect even until the day she died ❤🎯
Glad to learn they changed their minds...an Open Marriage only means a loveless marriage. I thought that they were the perfect couple!
They were the perfect couple. They were "PERFECT" for each other and that's all that really matters.
@@TheGreta2400 Perfect for each other? Why this type of relationship then?
@@Michelle-pn9xtbecause that’s what they both wanted, use your brain for Christ sake
I would've never thought or guessed this about Ozzie or Ruby. There is absolutely no way I'm sharing my husband OR my body with another and call myself a child of the Most High!!!
These people obviously were not saved just like all of Hollywood
Open marriages are dumb. Why get married if you aren't going to stay devoted to the person you married. If you want to sleep with other people, stay single. Simple as that.
It can be a bit more nuanced than that. Some people can’t physically have sex with each other because of a disability. It’s a matter of what both people agree on🤷🏾♀️
Agree
@@ladymsthing6056 I don't buy that. Marriage vows weren't meant to be broken just because people get urges. That's what for better or for worse and through sickness and in health means. If your fidelity and loyalty can be broken because of a disability; you are ruled by desires and not sensibility or principles. There are a lot of weak people in this world.
@@ladymsthing6056 if they didn't repent going hell marriage no joke to Jesus oh Jesus hate sin when have sex before marriages everyone needs repent made normal Jesus eyes looking at sin
@@amethawilliams4771 Well said. And so true.
Open marriage = struggle marriage
Open marriage = no marriage , no vows , no commitment, no substance, no true love whatsoever ! Nothing there !
AMEN!
right. Aside from Tasha Smith and Monique none of those marriages lasted.
@@Kelaine72 Those 2 ladies kept their Man no matter what he did ?
@@jbridges4089 pretty much.
People need to have open conversations rather than relationships. I feel it’s a side route to not have to go deeper into talking and emotions. It’s a cop out in my book. Makes marriage unsacred. If that’s even a word.
I love all these pics of Ms. Dee and Mr. Davis, what a lovely life they must have had together. Thanks!
Karine *ALWAYS* Always bringing the heat man!🔥🔥🔥
You never disappoint 🩶
So fresh every time, thank you, many blessings
Another GREAT video from the beautiful Karine! Thanks for your hard work and dedication! ❤
She was one of the originators, she deserve her flowers
Just discovered your work and I must say you do a fantastic job giving not only the recorded history but also capturing the dynamics of an individual's personality. Love the highlights you cover. And I must say the fact that this phenomenal couple was still protesting injustices even in their advanced years says more than words can. I only hope that I will have such courage at any stage of my life 🙏🏿
Not going to lie, this was a shocker for me to find out but I am so happy that they kept their marriage first no matter what that looked like. They made the decision to keep it respectful and to keep it private.
I learned so much from your videos! I had no idea about her relationship with Ossie. But I can't get down with an open relationship. It's just not for me. Soul-ties are real, and I wish people were more aware of that.
I always thought Ruby Dee was a beautiful woman and had a regal presence.
As the young person I thought that her and Ossie Davis had a beautiful relationship and never would have thought that they had an open marriage because they stayed together so long regardless of the open relationship their love must have been true because they grew and died together.
She was gorgeous
Another masterful presentation Karine. Thank you.👏👌👏
I really enjoyed this and I believe to each is own. My theory is that I could see why having an open relationship could be tough. At the end of the day people are gonna do what they want to do,
I read an article some time ago, where Ms Ruby said that she regretted her decision to have an open marriage. She said that if she had it to do over again, she wouldn't have done it.
I'm not gonna lie the title made me go 😮 I'm shook!
Me too
@@career5690 All l can do is SMH!
She is gorgeous! Her eyes are beautiful! I feel Angela Bassett and Ruby Dee are 2 of the most iconic actresses.
The irony was that her first husband permitted her to have an open relationship with Ozzie Davis and she ended up marrying him! This is why I could never feel comfortable with the knowledge that my wife was having relations with another man, and it would be even more difficult for me to trust her afterwards, no matter how much that she proclaimed to love me! Call me insecure, but I couldn't do it!
Thanks!
Got a chance to see Ruby D speak before she passed. Great experience.
Your content is well researched and you give good context on each celebrity. I find it very interesting. Please could you do content on Niome Harris, Kylie Minogue, Kate Bush and Aja Naomi King. I would appreciate it.
Yes to Aja. 🎉
Great choices!
This was another great video! Definitely co-sign doing a video on Jayne Kennedy next! Keep up the great videos we love them!💖
Thats a good one!
She already did Jayne 😊
I respect they gave each other room to grow and they stood by each other’s side for the entire journey.
I can't believe I have never seen her before. She is absolutely stunning!!!
Ruby D was GORGEOUS!! Like let’s not run past that 🙌🏽😍
She looks like ifJasmine Guy and Chloe Bailey had a baby lol. I love this channel!
I dropped my phone with that opening scene.
The movie is called “The Balcony” (1963). It blew my mind too!
An open marriage is just another word for nymphomania. It’s about sex and no self control. Why even get married, just stay long term friends with benefits. I don’t respect these types of relationships as they make a mockery of marriages. It never works out anyway.
Agreed
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One person I know, female, attempts this. I've known her since we were children and she has some unresolved issues about her parents not giving her the attention she wanted, or it's something of a personality disorder, idk, but she is *never* able to be alone even for a short time. If she has to make an hour drive she'll find someone to ride with her so she has someone to listen to her talk. I feel like that carries over to relationships where one person can't be all the things she demands of one person because in real life people have to work, sleep, have some alone time, and she takes that as rejection or something. So she has other people to fill in that time. From my perspective it doesn't seem healthy for anyone involved and it just allows her to ignore whatever it is in her that needs addressed and expecting other people to make her feel validated. Also, to me it just seems absolutely exhausting.
You should put that energy on marriages on which the person goes behind their partner back and constantly cheat, lies and betrays, at least for open marriages they’re honest with each other
@@possumfriend2335marriage in general is exhausting for most monogamy or polygamy
ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!!
Ruby Dee was gorgeous! I can see her having the same type of strong personality that will do what she wants when she wants! Even back then! Miss her energy!
Oh this video gonna be good!
A lot of ppl are in open marriages…. Some know it and others don’t. 🤷🏽♀️
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Exactly! Lots of people cheat but their partners don’t know about it.
Haha 😂 Damn
wow she is so beautiful i never seen her so young she always had that sass and diva to her also didn’t know about her open marriage but she gorgeous and that first open scene her about to faint took me out 😂❤️💞💖💖💞💜💜
How does this not have more likes? Only 6.4k? It deserves so much more. Great Video! Thank you
You delivered this video well. Thank you for the old footage. I didn't know how Ruby Dee looked when she was younger. She was beautiful! How she lived her life is between her and God. Her contribution as an artist in her time here I truly appreciate gift as an actress and activist.
She was so GORGEOUS! She had such an angelic beauty. I'm always blown away by the women's beauty back in the day, it's so different. We definitely don't see that now at all! As far as open marriages, I do not share!
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I learned about this years ago and even though I was younger - I understood where they were coming from.
I still love these two for their work and just everything what they stood for and continued to embrace their blackness ❤
Ossie was so freaking handsome and Ruby was just absolutely stunning! One of the most beautiful women in the world to me. Next to Pam Grier, Angela Bassett, Phylicia Rashad and the list continues as they age and aged magnificently❤❤❤
If you don’t agree - I don’t care.
As for their open marriage - they learned, they grew and they respected each other. Their marriage isn’t my business.
Love your work. Ruby and her husband were amazing
Ruby Dee was a very beautiful actress, I loved her and all her movies. The open marriage thing that's between the two. Thank you for bringing this Ruby Dee video.
I was always taught that monogamy was an option, but not mandatory. So I've always been comfortable dating multiple men at the same time. I've never lied or hid it from them. I've dated men who claimed they wanted to be monogamous. Truth is they wanted ME to be monogamous, even though THEY had no intentions on doing so themselves. I was always willing to be monogamous if I ever got married. I married a man who felt the same way. We chose an open marriage. We spent years trying to be monogamous. That didn't work for us. We are both straight and not into the same people, but we're always seeing other people. Works for us. 15+ years by the way.
Love all your videos; your research is great 👍🏾
Love your videos. Very well done.
Ruby Dee was always such a beauty!
She and her late husband deserves a biopic
They both were sooo attractive!💯
Cat people and Jungle Fever (Ruby Dee) You have got to do one on Jayne Kennedy (the most beautiful lady of her time) and Judy Pace (another stunning beauty) I love your channel!
It's a classic case of having your cake and eating it too. Open relationships defeat one of the main purposes of marriage.
Open relationships/marriages tend to end in both parts being hurt. In the beginning you never believe this, you just think everything is going to be fun and exciting and that it’s going to revive your initial relationship. But often times it leads to one part being more hurt, one part having more fun than the other (or even the only part having fun), one part (or both) catches feelings for someone else etc. It’s extremly hard to do this (probably even impossible). Everyone should have the right to explore whatever part of their life they want but there will always be consequences. And if you have kids I really believe if you as parents really really wanna fo this thing, ok, but then the kids should not know about this. I really think it’s messing them up. Kids should stay away from this type of experiences of their parents.
From my own understanding life is just experiences..some work in your favor while some require re-thinking what's best for all involved not just ourselves. Thank you soo much for this video and all the great content on your channel.
Just remain single if you wish to live the single life, PERIOD!
Or find someone who is on the same page on open marriage period
Hey, Karine 🥰 happy I got here early. Blessings and prosperity love you 🫶 I am here for you.
Hey Nicole! It’s been a while sis! Love you too! 😘♥️
I love her in anything she has done,my favorite,as Ruth in a raisin in the sun,their eyes were watching god as Hallie Berry's grandmother,and that spike Lee joint,she was so pretty,smart,and delicate and strong at the same time....
I didn't know about her open "marriage ". HOW SAD.
Very sad. Why get married
@@turquoisepurple7sky151bc that’s what they wanted
Thank you for this download, I have found Ruby Dee in a new and wonderful personality. She was indeed a very beautiful black woman.
Ruby Dee and Ossie Davis were superb role models and their marriage always appeared to be rock solid. I loved Ruby in Raisin in the Sun. Thanks, for this outstanding video.
These open relationships only work for celebrities, they don't have the money arguments or the stresses of being at work, they can move, play, hang out together, and do anything at anytime, regular folk have things going on that will make that open relationship get out of control.
Thanks for the upload!❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for watching ♥️♥️♥️
Taraji Henson definitely can play her in a movie
Beautiful, talented, intelligent, determined, legendary artist.
Oh, please. She and Ossie said in their memoir they tried an open marriage, but it didn't work for them and they stopped. It wasn't like it was for years.
Ruby Dee was so pretty,a true example of second generation mix..
My confusion over the open marriage remains with why get married at all? Stay single and mingle🤷♀️ and don't have kids to cause them distress. Seems far simpler. But, the open marriage allows the illusion of both, which I guess is the allure. One can show the presumed stability and maturity of a marriage whilst continuing to roam and neither partner can easily stop the other, I guess? Seems like far too much work with too many potential downsides.
Agreed
SAME!!
Yes and don't have children if your going to do this. Shelfish
So gorgeous ❤
An amazingly thought-provoking woman. I enjoyed her story as the straightforward honest introspective approach is best in my view. I particularly enjoyed the annotation of the growth experience, how she unapologetically chose to learn from her experiences and letting the yield from those experiences afford her the insight to change her mind in an informed manner. Indeed, her intellect, pride, and strength made her a noteable and therefore, formidable role-model in so many ways. A queen in every since of the word, she was, indeed!
She was absolutely beautiful 😍😍😍
SHE WAS SO BEAUTIFUL
Okay I need to go look up their kids... because I know these two made beautiful babies. 💕
I agree with Mrs. Ruby Dee, I believe that it's not about the act of sex it is the disrespect that most people show, and she is right it is not about who you love it's that you both love and respect each other and I truly feel that honesty and trust are key pieces in making a marriage works
That is disrespectful, to have sex with someone that is not your spouse.
So much oxymorons in your statement.
Hollywood lifestyle is nothing you should emulate.
I guess you’ve seen how ‘happy’ Will Smith is and how ‘considerate’ Jada has been in their marriage.
Absolute ’love’ and ‘respect’ in their marriage.
Most black women have always believed in open marriage or sexual freedom or however, you may choose to express it, but this belief only applies to themselves and other racial groups of people with the exception of their black male counterparts. When it comes to black males, black females and society as a whole have always taken the exception to this rule, for the prevailing belief is that black male sexuality must be policed at all costs. This belief has always been reflected in the negative attitudes about black men dating and marrying other racial groups of women. This does not only apply to black women in Hollywood, black women in general have always believed and engaged in sexually promiscuous behaviors. However, they are not willing to accept these same behaviors from their black male counterparts without protest. It is only a problem for these women when their black male counterparts start to think about these same behaviors and/or engaging in them. Statistics lends support to this conceptualization, when one considers the fact that the majority of black men don't have any children but the majority of black women have illegitimate children by different men. Statistically black women have more children by men of other races than women of any other racial group. As many black women age they will develop amnesia about their sexual exploits or behaviors in the days of their youth and point the finger at the younger people and seemly advocate for more conservative and/or Christian views and attitudes toward sex. Is this a true conversion and/or has sex just given up on them, because they may know longer be able to compete in the sexual market place? Does this sexual prudishness just reflect a means to protect their sexual relationship and/or marriage interests, because the situation has changed for them?
@@Harry-xz3os most black women don’t like accountability. They love to think they shouldn’t have to deal with the impact of their bad decisions.
@@ngbeat1616 Do you know most Black women? That's an horrible statement to make. What Black women hurt you?
Why looking at young ruby dee is givin me jasmin guy vibes is it just me wow but any how she has always been a beautiful lady she also was a great actress thx for this story of her some much imformation i didnt know about her & husband ozzie i much enjoyed it!!! ❤❤❤❤
Beautiful and talented!