The Sabols seemed like genuine, nice guys. The fact that NFL Films became such a success is a credit to them, and to see a Father & Son start such an enterprise together from nothing is certainly an inspiration. It's a shame that Steve did not have his Father's longevity. I enjoy watching these films and I think a lot of others do as well. The Sabols left a proud legacy.
I just relived my Life. I watched this on 01/01/'24 with tears in my eyes. When Minnesota was the real Vikings, & Football was Football. As a kid, we rode bicycles, played outside, we knew who won the Kentucky Derby, the Apolo Program (NASA), & who was the Heavyweight Champion of the World, Boxing & of course Music. I'm glad I lived it all.
Still my all time favorite period of the NFL...was playing football in high school at the time and had dreams of kicking for the Rams someday. Even today I can still name most starters back then and my sports room is a shrine to it all. Jack Whitaker passed away 8-18-19 at the age of 95..R.I.P.
With the big 50 NFL on their shoulder. Yup that was a great year and that was my first game. It was the Rams and the Atlanta Falcons head coached by foul mouthed yelling Norm Van Brocklin you could hear him all the way up in the 80th level of the Coliseum.
The Lost Treasures is one of the finest series NFL Films ever produced. And that is saying something. Imagine so much "throwaway" film that it could be the basis for an entire series. But like Ed Sabol said, "You gotta keep the film." The Lost Treasures is also, sadly, a wonderful tribute to Steve Sabol. The show's theme "A Hero Remembered" was played after Steve's death at a dedication ceremony at NFL Films headquarters.
Joe Meehan, Without question, he was a true giant in the world of mass communications for over 50 years. His accomplishments were protean, though some who might call him a propagandist, don't do so without any justification. Nonetheless, it's hard to imagine a talent like his, ever having such an elemental role in presenting such a vision, in that world, ever again. As was touched on in this production, an outsize part of that drive, came from his utter love for the game, which can never be disputed, in the slightest.
I'm quite proud to have witnessed pro football... as it was in the 1960's... even though I was just in public school. I will be 62 yrs old in Nov... and while I still enjoy the game, that special time/era is forever gone. Nonetheless, we will always have the wonderful memories to take with us, because of pioneers like Ed & Steve Sabol, John Fascenda and a host of others!
@@kevaninthe4135, let me guess instead of telling me you think my behavior is phony, showboating, and as ego-filled as your's is, you'll just take that considerable super-ego child of an attitude you possess and just declare I am a nobody. Well, if you are the gold-standard for a somebody, just pretend I am Robert Lansing= THE MAN WHO NEVER WAS.. You couldn't tie my shoes, genius. But, now, if you want to debate me on the NFL concussion issue and really show your ignorance, land the first blow..your move, Einstein. C'mon, you "somebody"...lol..
There were some absolutely great quarterbacks back then. I was just a kid, but I can remember from ‘65 onward. Sonny Jurgensen, Joe Willie Namath, John Brodie, Len Dawson, Fran Tarkenton, Roman Gabriel, Daryle Lamonica, Johnny Unitas. Hell, even guys like Greg Landry, Jim Hart, and Charley Johnson could drop dimes all over the field. Marlin Briscoe even had a great year in ‘68, first black QB. Guys like Bart Starr and Jack Kemp might not be considered great, but they were about as clutch as you could get. These guys were the real thing. A bunch are in the hall of fame!
EXCELLENT FILM !!!! I REMEMBER WATCHING ALOT OF THE EAGLES TIM ROSSOVICH PROFILE BACK IN 1971 ON "N.F.L. ACTION" WHICH WAS BROADCAST HERE IN NEW YORK CITY ON WABC-TV CHANNEL 7. ALTHOUGH I WAS AN AMERICAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE FAN SINCE 1967 I LOVED THE N.F.L. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES !!!! THE NEW YORK JETS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE TEAM, AND THE FIRST TIME I SAW THEM PLAY WAS A 1967 EXHIBITION GAME AGAINST TIM BROWN AND TTHE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES.. A FIST FIGHT BETWEEN JOHNNY SAMPLE AND MIKE DITKA ERUPTED INTO A BENCH CLEARING FREE-FOR-ALL !!!! YEARS LATER TIMMY BROWN STARRED IN AN ACTION MOVIE CALLED "BLACK GUNN" ! HE PLAYED FORMER CLEVELAND BROWNS AND HALL OF FAME RUNNING BACK JIM BROWN'S BROTHER !!!! THANK YOU Sports Revisited FOR POSTING THIS MASTERPIECE !!!! THANK YOU YOU/TUBE !!!!
Living here in Houston since 1968, I was always drawn to the early East Coast games at noon on Sundays during the season, and the cold, grey stadiums like Franklin Field and Shea Stadium. We had the Oilers play in that dull, concrete mausoleum called The Astrodome.
I love watching those old films everytime I hear John talk about the frozen tundra of Green bay it takes me back and brings a smile to my face! Gosh I'm old😂
The NFL players of yesteryear were tougher, played for the "love of the game", better behaved, recognized the Coach was the boss! Our NFL has went the way of the country for
I don't think they were better behaved. What they did just wasn't reported as much. And, as for love of the game, that may be true, but it was also a job and the only reason they didn't go for more money is they didn't have any power. They got paid what the owners wanted to pay them. And I don't know why "the coach is boss" is a good philosophy. I thought that, in America, people don't just kowtow to authority.
@@marcschneider4845 I agree with what you say apart from the Coach thing. Ultimately somebody has to be in control and be accountable, thats why when a team goes 2-14 they don't fire the players. American kids are brought up to respect their coaches from a very early age, a lot of them are surrogate parents.
@@marcschneider4845 When older people complain about the behavior of today's players I them have to ask they are some of the things done by players back then any better? As for the money Gale Sayers said once in an interview players now are too concerned about money.
@@marcschneider4845 in organized sports you recognize a leader/boss. While respecting him for his efforts to hopefully help you on and off the field. Period. Has literally nothing to do with “kowtow”ing to authority.
all the nfl films are really good. and the retrospectives they've been churning out are among the best. but i think this trilogy of films, of which this is the last, is about the most enjoyable, well written and produced retrospectives nfl films has ever created. i did notice how no one ever refers to nfl films as a documentary film company. which is exactly what they were. also, there's no mention of the late great John Facenda. his distinctive and dramatic voice added a lot to nfl films early popularity. thanks for the uploads. OHHHH MAN! i knew it! i waited until the last 7 minutes to write my comment and it was STILL too early. i'm still not going to change my comment. so there.
Beatles' George Harrison visited Haight Ashbury and basically said the same things as Browns' Bill Glass said. Harrison pictured the Haight as a mecca of great artistic creation and spiritual awakening, but stated, " it wasn't what I thought"..."just a bunch of spotty, drop-out kids on drugs," ..."like The Bowery." George was not an, "Old School," type of guy. Glass was telling the truth.
Great stuff....NFL Films has preserved get eras from the past...the only way anyone can see football how it was played then is by NFL Films...thanks Ed and Steve Sabol
That last scene features RDE Bill Glass and QB Fran Tarkenton. Tarkenton had just smoked the Browns at home, 27-17, but Glass is anything but pissed off. He's walking off the field with his friend, showing respect. The game was played on Halloween, 1965. The Browns were having a great year and would go 11-3 but lose to the Packers in the championship game. The Vikings were just emerging from mediocrity and would finish 7-7. Van Brocklin again and again as a coach would pooch it at the end of the season, and the Vikings lost 4 straight coming down the stretch.
Tark's dad Dallas Tarkenton- that was his name-was a preacher in a church in Tark's home area in Georgia. Dallas T. died of a heart attack the day that Staubach threw the Hail Mary..for Dallas..the Cowboys, that is..when they beat Fran in that divisional playoff game. That Christian background is more than likely why you see Tark and Glass walking off like that.
Glass was a preacher and Tark was the son of a preacher. They had a lot in common. Glass would preach to inmates, trying to help them..but.. "Arrogance" according to STEVE SABOL was the reason they cut GLASS's preaching to revivalists, out. Really? But, you can bet it wasn't arrogance when STEVE's sister BLAIR writing for the lefty VILLAGE VOICE publication, espoused lefty ideas. SPEECH IN EXPOSURE FOR ME, NOT FOR THEE. Pretty much sums it up, RIGHT? No matter if you agree with GLASS or not, and when it comes to the spirituality question I am an agnostic, having an opinion is his right, and just because it differs from libs and lefties, doesn't make it arrogant. In fact, some of it was spot on criticism. See, the dirty little secret that the left likes to hide is their ethics and moral values, in many cases creating their IRRESPONSIBILITY TOWARD THEIR FAMILIES has actually led to busted homes and families, and lives especially thru narcotics, and abused families, and a damaged generation that begat another damaged generation that begat another damaged one...leading to the idiocy of the ideas that have begun to sprout today, dysfunctional personalities that have allowed their superegos to swallow them whole. Only, I would never say: I AS GATEKEEPER OF INFO. WON'T LET YOU BE HEARD.. Now, that censoring just like NFL FILMS' position here vis-a-vis BILL GLASS.. would REALLY BE ARROGANT. Namecalling is everyone's right, at least before the gov. legislates it away, but the most hubris-filled thing one can do, is to block what one disagrees with, done most of the time because debating is the weakest spot of the blockers. MY DOS CENTAVOS.. Arrogance, my arse! More like the Sabols' own intolerance.
1960's - 1970's- THE best era of the NFL, when it was about the game. There was a focus on code of honor and respect for the game in the playing, the atmosphere and coverage. As for the Bill Glass segment, it is quite evident he was correct in his analysis of SF and the Haight ashbury scene then in the late 60's, as that problem has only worsened to what it is today. After his NFL career, his ministry mainly focused on helping the less fortunate. What a time for the game and the players on the field - THE best; and something to strive for.
The players were smaller but the game was vicious. I remember going to a so-called super box in 1973 that my Dad's company had at Veterans Stadium and it was thought of as great and today would be considered crap. The quarterbacks would have loved to play with today's rules. Imagine Sonny or John Unitas with the rules today wow!
Some of those players were taller and athletic as today. Ever hear of Doug Atkins? One BAD dude. Never seen a frontline defenseman who could hurdle against a 6'5" tackle and get the quarterback. NFL was big and bad in those days. How long have you been watching nfl?
The qbs? Oh yeah..today's rules..6k passing yards in a season, anyone? The only thing that might be a stumbling block is the height and width of the lineman blocking for, and rushing to, the qback. It would be harder to see for shorter qbs.. But, they were smart enough to work around that. As far as arm strength, they say Jack Kemp could throw it 90 yards on the fly. Jurgensen could go behind his back for thirty yards and hit the receiver, etc..
@@t4texastomjohnnycat978, they were not typical though, like on the lines that we see today, but they had shiftier feet because there was so much pulling and pulling defensive disruption tactics, back then. In addition, they were better at body lean for leverage technique because they could not use their open hands and extended arms to block. And, they could chop, legwhip, etc.. It was a whole different game back then.
For those of anyone who appreciates '60s-NFL history, at 31:06-31:14, the Lambeau Stadium scoreboard is visible, behind Coach Lombardi. This was from the final regular-season week of the 1967 season, in which the Steelers (who at the time were the "dregs" of the league), were leading the Packers , late in the 2nd qtr., and would go on to win this game. You'll notice also, that the scoreboard displays game-day scores under "Eastern" & "Western" conference titles. TERRIFIC! Thank you, Ed & Steve Sabol!!
Hope that PBR scoreboard is in a museum somewhere but I doubt it. It's fabulous. The scores posted by conference is a delicious oddity indeed, given it doesn't account for inter-conference games, nor the fact that for the '67 season (and the two that followed) the NFL had no Eastern / Western Conferences, just the four C divisions- Century, Coastal, Central... and the other one.
Sabol says football is still a violent game... and that’ll never change. Well today’s NFL is doing everything they can to make the game less violent. I think Steve was right.
The NFL and College Football is in a bind. They know the writing is on the wall and that TBI is going to kill the sport of football within 20 years unless they make massive changes. On the flip side, those changes are alienating the old-school fan base that thinks the sport has gone soft. High School and College Football could very well be regional sports within 10 years.
Bill Glass was correct about the degradation of our culture and its impact on our society. Interesting to note that even NFL Films 50 years ago was afraid to publish diversity of thought.
This is what football is all about. Not that pussycat softball crap people watch nowadays. Fewer flags as well. They really let the players play back then.
It's too bad multipurpose stadiums are virtually nonexistent. The Detroit Lions played in Tiger Stadium from 1938-39,1941-74. The team spent the 1940 season at University of Detroit Stadium.
Game was a true game of atrition back then. Im glad a qb and receiver is more protected today. Yup they sittin dunks. Men were hurt awful on catches over the middle.
Is there any chance you can upload 1972 World Series Game 7 A's at Reds and 1974 World Series Game 5 Dodgers at A's Please, I Like Those World Series Games.
Man I wish Howard Cosell had social media or he lived during social media. He easily would have the most followers because he can get people to love and hate him at the same time lol
I grew up in San Francisco in the hippie era. Page Street is one block from Haight Street. And the only thing you could smell is sandlewood incense and "Grass".
They mention Lombardi being lonely but it was not like he didn't have a family. Of course I have heard he was not a great family man and which my understanding was mentioned in a book about him.
“When Pride Still Mattered” by David Maraniss. Among the best biographies ever written. And yes, Lombardi was a pitifully neglectful husband and father, by all accounts. His own son and daughter were very explicit about all of this, including their mother’s loneliness and resultant alcoholism.
Interesting to see the early thoughts on "turf" as even todays fake fields continue to be linked to increased injury rate and intensity. Also Cosell's breakdown of the Draft, which is totally true. HC would die of a laugh attack at what todays draft has become in terms of presentation and even more that thousands of fans choose to attend in person.
Ironically, it was the hiring of Bud Grant as HC and the trading of Tarkington to the Giants in exchange for draft picks which brought in Alan Page, that first made the Vikings a great team. It was also Tarkington returning to the Vikings in 72, that set up the most successful run in franchise history of 4 NFC title appearances with 3 wins and 3 losing Super Bowl appearances between 73 and 77.
The game today is too nice, the field is too perfect from its colors to its surface. Not an imperfection in the field or turf left. Games in Dome stadium's or stadiums with retractable roofs. All you needed in stadiums was a regulation size field with 10 yard end zones at each end and 100 yards in between. This surrounded by seats or bleachers for fans to sit on. That is all that is needed. You don't need luxury indoor box booths and seating, fancy built in restaurants or souvenirs, advertisements and signs you don't care to look at, you are there to watch the game or stay home. Who cares about the weather, the perfect field with plastic grass color painted perfectly with permanent lines painted in place. Where are the grass stains, the dust, the mud, dirt, and if it rains or even snows so be it. It is all fair when both teams have to play in it. These imperfections did not cause more injuries, they actually presented an appeal that is missing now that use to be there. Artificial turf actually caused more injuries and was like actual concrete when frozen. No more really rain soaked fields as they have drainage built in. Bottom line is the NFL and any sport really has made alot of additions that are not needed and what people just don't want to see like an advertisement for a chiropractor. Too many concessions. A game lasts three hours, eat before or after, if you can't go without eating during that time and are willing to pay what they now charge you are a PIG plain and simple. Dress appropriately, soft drinks or water are fine, get up to use the bathroom that is it. Otherwise stay in/at your seat and do what you came to do, watch the darn game. If you want to watch at the stadium like you are sitting in your livingroom then stay at home with your easy chair, gourmet, beer, and remote. Two changes about games and stadiums I like because they are for darn good reasons. First one is large or larger scoreboards around the stadium inside with video/replay of the game. Some people miss play angles based on their view. Certain views/seating is obviously closer and better than others sitting up in the upper deck or at the top in the clouds and behind the stupid drunk(s) that won't sit down blocking your view. The other change was moving goal posts from the goal line to the back line of the endzone many years ago. Keeps players from colliding with them on scoring or attempted scoring plays. The game itself has a long list of things defenses can no longer do that use to be legal. Now with a perfect field and perfect surface that isn't any help either. Do you really like to see defenses stopping offenses or offenses just stopping themselves? Last team that gets the ball wins? Yes, a 13-10 game is as exciting and hard hitting as a 52-48 game. Defense is exciting, so is Special Team play, kickoffs are a joke, just start at the 25, forget the kickoff. Injuries are still a big part of the game as it always was, just more of them are recognized and taken more seriously like concussions. The NFL use to have alot of appeal, much of it to do with unique fields and stadiums, imperfections, now it is almost like watching a Madden computer game.
The era of appealing primarily to blue-collar fans is long since over. The real money is in appealing to corporate sponsors and those people want an overproduced experience, not a gritty athletic contest. The NFL doesn't care about grouchy, old-school fans who want to tell everybody else how they should act at a game. The NFL is about generating cash any way it can. Fantasy football has gone from the realm of being a means to draw nerds to football, to a means to draw in casual fans and women. Soon you will be able to lay down a football bet at any NFL stadium. Guys who just want smash-mouth football are going the way of the dinosaur and the woolly mammoth. Accept reality, the NFL is never going back.
The league had to eliminate a lot of the violence that the NFL had by changing a lot of the rules. a lot of stars were going down ...You have to much money invested in these players today. .. You would have a lot of careers finished if they didn't. ..
The biggest lie ever told was the League and Owners saying Astro Turf would cut down on injuries. They even got the trainers to lie about it. The rise in knee injures and Brain damage CTE with players heads hitting concrete like turf when it was freezing cold in November and December. Football was always meant to be played on grass and there was something about seeing players get dirty and muddy that had a certain appeal to me as a fan who has been watching since 1963 when My Giants lost to the Bears.
John Facenda belongs in the NFL Hall of Fame.
is Steve sabol in cause if he's in John facenda should be in
Yes.
You belong in jail
Facenda did appear in one of the NFL Follies films later on..
@jonathanlund6708 the leagues breakthrough was the 70s because of the merger and adding more teams
The Sabols seemed like genuine, nice guys. The fact that NFL Films became such a success is a credit to them, and to see a Father & Son start such an enterprise together from nothing is certainly an inspiration. It's a shame that Steve did not have his Father's longevity. I enjoy watching these films and I think a lot of others do as well. The Sabols left a proud legacy.
The NFL died with them.
I just relived my Life. I watched this on 01/01/'24 with tears in my eyes. When Minnesota was the real Vikings, & Football was Football. As a kid, we rode bicycles, played outside, we knew who won the Kentucky Derby, the Apolo Program (NASA), & who was the Heavyweight Champion of the World, Boxing & of course Music. I'm glad I lived it all.
Still my all time favorite period of the NFL...was playing football in high school at the time and had dreams of kicking for the Rams someday. Even today I can still name most starters back then and my sports room is a shrine to it all. Jack Whitaker passed away 8-18-19 at the age of 95..R.I.P.
With the big 50 NFL on their shoulder. Yup that was a great year and that was my first game. It was the Rams and the Atlanta Falcons head coached by foul mouthed yelling Norm Van Brocklin you could hear him all the way up in the 80th level of the Coliseum.
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i miss whitakers voice gowdy all of them!
The Lou Saban stuff is priceless
This music is incredible
The Lost Treasures is one of the finest series NFL Films ever produced. And that is saying something. Imagine so much "throwaway" film that it could be the basis for an entire series. But like Ed Sabol said, "You gotta keep the film." The Lost Treasures is also, sadly, a wonderful tribute to Steve Sabol. The show's theme "A Hero Remembered" was played after Steve's death at a dedication ceremony at NFL Films headquarters.
Joe Meehan, Without question, he was a true giant in the world of mass communications for over 50 years. His accomplishments were protean, though some who might call him a propagandist, don't do so without any justification. Nonetheless, it's hard to imagine a talent like his, ever having such an elemental role in presenting such a vision, in that world, ever again. As was touched on in this production, an outsize part of that drive, came from his utter love for the game, which can never be disputed, in the slightest.
The 1960s.....
PRO FOOTBALL'S GREATEST DECADE.🏈
This era is the seed that planted the NFL for years to come
I played a pickup game on Franklin Field in 1987 with some UPenn area kids and the astroturf was hard as a rock. It was like playing on concrete.
Ray Gordon Teaches Chess, It was, essentially.
Howard Cossell nailed the draft bs.
I'm quite proud to have witnessed pro football... as it was in the 1960's... even though I was just in public school. I will be 62 yrs old in Nov... and while I still enjoy the game, that special time/era is forever gone. Nonetheless, we will always have the wonderful memories to take with us, because of pioneers like Ed & Steve Sabol, John Fascenda and a host of others!
It's good you remember the football of the 60's. Someone has to. The players certainly don't anymore.
@@kevaninthe4135, let me guess..you get off on virtue signalling..
@@robertsprouse9282 Let me guess..you're a nobody.
@@kevaninthe4135, let me guess instead of telling me you think my behavior is phony, showboating, and as ego-filled as your's is, you'll just take that considerable super-ego child of an attitude you possess and just declare I am a nobody.
Well, if you are the gold-standard for a somebody, just pretend I am Robert Lansing= THE MAN WHO NEVER WAS..
You couldn't tie my shoes, genius.
But, now, if you want to debate me on the NFL concussion issue and really show your ignorance, land the first blow..your move, Einstein.
C'mon, you "somebody"...lol..
There were some absolutely great quarterbacks back then. I was just a kid, but I can remember from ‘65 onward. Sonny Jurgensen, Joe Willie Namath, John Brodie, Len Dawson, Fran Tarkenton, Roman Gabriel, Daryle Lamonica, Johnny Unitas. Hell, even guys like Greg Landry, Jim Hart, and Charley Johnson could drop dimes all over the field. Marlin Briscoe even had a great year in ‘68, first black QB. Guys like Bart Starr and Jack Kemp might not be considered great, but they were about as clutch as you could get. These guys were the real thing. A bunch are in the hall of fame!
EXCELLENT FILM !!!! I REMEMBER WATCHING ALOT OF THE EAGLES TIM ROSSOVICH PROFILE BACK IN 1971 ON "N.F.L. ACTION" WHICH WAS BROADCAST HERE IN NEW YORK CITY ON WABC-TV CHANNEL 7. ALTHOUGH I WAS AN AMERICAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE FAN SINCE 1967 I LOVED THE N.F.L. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES !!!! THE NEW YORK JETS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE TEAM, AND THE FIRST TIME I SAW THEM PLAY WAS A 1967 EXHIBITION GAME AGAINST TIM BROWN AND TTHE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES.. A FIST FIGHT BETWEEN JOHNNY SAMPLE AND MIKE DITKA ERUPTED INTO A BENCH CLEARING FREE-FOR-ALL !!!! YEARS LATER TIMMY BROWN STARRED IN AN ACTION MOVIE CALLED "BLACK GUNN" ! HE PLAYED FORMER CLEVELAND BROWNS AND HALL OF FAME RUNNING BACK JIM BROWN'S BROTHER !!!! THANK YOU Sports Revisited FOR POSTING THIS MASTERPIECE !!!! THANK YOU YOU/TUBE !!!!
Living here in Houston since 1968, I was always drawn to the early East Coast games at noon on Sundays during the season, and the cold, grey stadiums like Franklin Field and Shea Stadium. We had the Oilers play in that dull, concrete mausoleum called The Astrodome.
I love watching those old films everytime I hear John talk about the frozen tundra of Green bay it takes me back and brings a smile to my face! Gosh I'm old😂
I know the feeling...sigh..me too..me too..
I miss the Sabol's.
they would be so honored to know they made the hall of fame!
The Lost treasures, NFL Football Folly’s, and the Voice of God, legendary John Facenda.
The NFL players of yesteryear were tougher, played for the "love of the game", better behaved, recognized the Coach was the boss! Our NFL has went the way of the country for
I don't think they were better behaved. What they did just wasn't reported as much. And, as for love of the game, that may be true, but it was also a job and the only reason they didn't go for more money is they didn't have any power. They got paid what the owners wanted to pay them. And I don't know why "the coach is boss" is a good philosophy. I thought that, in America, people don't just kowtow to authority.
@@marcschneider4845 I agree with what you say apart from the Coach thing. Ultimately somebody has to be in control and be accountable, thats why when a team goes 2-14 they don't fire the players. American kids are brought up to respect their coaches from a very early age, a lot of them are surrogate parents.
@@marcschneider4845 When older people complain about the behavior of today's players I them have to ask they are some of the things done by players back then any better?
As for the money Gale Sayers said once in an interview players now are too concerned about money.
Players back then gave everything they had and died with scrambled brains and empty bank accounts.
@@marcschneider4845 in organized sports you recognize a leader/boss. While respecting him for his efforts to hopefully help you on and off the field. Period. Has literally nothing to do with “kowtow”ing to authority.
12:43 Always love the old clips when you see some guy smoking on the sidelines
all the nfl films are really good. and the retrospectives they've been churning out are among the best. but i think this trilogy of films, of which this is the last, is about the most enjoyable, well written and produced retrospectives nfl films has ever created. i did notice how no one ever refers to nfl films as a documentary film company. which is exactly what they were. also, there's no mention of the late great John Facenda. his distinctive and dramatic voice added a lot to nfl films early popularity. thanks for the uploads.
OHHHH MAN! i knew it! i waited until the last 7 minutes to write my comment and it was STILL too early. i'm still not going to change my comment. so there.
Beatles' George Harrison visited Haight Ashbury and basically said the same things as Browns' Bill Glass said.
Harrison pictured the Haight as a mecca of great artistic creation and spiritual awakening, but stated, " it wasn't what I thought"..."just a bunch of spotty, drop-out kids on drugs," ..."like The Bowery."
George was not an, "Old School," type of guy. Glass was telling the truth.
Great stuff....NFL Films has preserved get eras from the past...the only way anyone can see football how it was played then is by NFL Films...thanks Ed and Steve Sabol
ultrametric , your comment on bill glass was perfect , and u know the rest of bill glass"s story , a truely great , humble man
The late sixties is when I became a fan of pro football. It was definitely a time of change.
That last scene features RDE Bill Glass and QB Fran Tarkenton. Tarkenton had just smoked the Browns at home, 27-17, but Glass is anything but pissed off. He's walking off the field with his friend, showing respect. The game was played on Halloween, 1965. The Browns were having a great year and would go 11-3 but lose to the Packers in the championship game. The Vikings were just emerging from mediocrity and would finish 7-7. Van Brocklin again and again as a coach would pooch it at the end of the season, and the Vikings lost 4 straight coming down the stretch.
Tark's dad Dallas Tarkenton- that was his name-was a preacher in a church in Tark's home area in Georgia.
Dallas T. died of a heart attack the day that Staubach threw the Hail Mary..for Dallas..the Cowboys, that is..when they beat Fran in that divisional playoff game.
That Christian background is more than likely why you see Tark and Glass walking off like that.
Glass was a preacher and Tark was the son of a preacher. They had a lot in common.
Glass would preach to inmates, trying to help them..but..
"Arrogance" according to STEVE SABOL was the reason they cut GLASS's preaching to revivalists, out.
Really?
But, you can bet it wasn't arrogance when STEVE's sister BLAIR writing for the lefty VILLAGE VOICE publication, espoused lefty ideas.
SPEECH IN EXPOSURE FOR ME, NOT FOR THEE.
Pretty much sums it up, RIGHT?
No matter if you agree with GLASS or not, and when it comes to the spirituality question I am an agnostic, having an opinion is his right, and just because it differs from libs and lefties, doesn't make it arrogant.
In fact, some of it was spot on criticism.
See, the dirty little secret that the left likes to hide is their ethics and moral values, in many cases creating their IRRESPONSIBILITY TOWARD THEIR FAMILIES has actually led to busted homes and families, and lives especially thru narcotics, and abused families, and a damaged generation that begat another damaged generation that begat another damaged one...leading to the idiocy of the ideas that have begun to sprout today, dysfunctional personalities that have allowed their superegos to swallow them whole.
Only, I would never say: I AS GATEKEEPER OF INFO. WON'T LET YOU BE HEARD..
Now, that censoring just like NFL FILMS' position here vis-a-vis BILL GLASS.. would REALLY BE ARROGANT.
Namecalling is everyone's right, at least before the gov. legislates it away, but the most hubris-filled thing one can do, is to block what one disagrees with, done most of the time because debating is the weakest spot of the blockers.
MY DOS CENTAVOS..
Arrogance, my arse!
More like the Sabols' own intolerance.
@@robertsprouse9282 Man you wasted all that time writing that bullshit. Your life.
@@ultrametric9317, cannot refute it, huh? Lol..
I’m now 57 🌈 Classic time to have been a kid ! My Vikes ! ⭐️
1960's - 1970's- THE best era of the NFL, when it was about the game. There was a focus on code of honor and respect for the game in the playing, the atmosphere and coverage. As for the Bill Glass segment, it is quite evident he was correct in his analysis of SF and the Haight ashbury scene then in the late 60's, as that problem has only worsened to what it is today. After his NFL career, his ministry mainly focused on helping the less fortunate. What a time for the game and the players on the field - THE best; and something to strive for.
The players were smaller but the game was vicious. I remember going to a so-called super box in 1973 that my Dad's company had at Veterans Stadium and it was thought of as great and today would be considered crap. The quarterbacks would have loved to play with today's rules. Imagine Sonny or John Unitas with the rules today wow!
Smaller?? Some of the largest players to play pro football played during the '50s & '60s.🏈
Some of those players were taller and athletic as today. Ever hear of Doug Atkins? One BAD dude. Never seen a frontline defenseman who could hurdle against a 6'5" tackle and get the quarterback. NFL was big and bad in those days. How long have you been watching nfl?
The qbs? Oh yeah..today's rules..6k passing yards in a season, anyone? The only thing that might be a stumbling block is the height and width of the lineman blocking for, and rushing to, the qback. It would be harder to see for shorter qbs..
But, they were smart enough to work around that. As far as arm strength, they say Jack Kemp could throw it 90 yards on the fly. Jurgensen could go behind his back for thirty yards and hit the receiver, etc..
@@t4texastomjohnnycat978, they were not typical though, like on the lines that we see today, but they had shiftier feet because there was so much pulling and pulling defensive disruption tactics, back then.
In addition, they were better at body lean for leverage technique because they could not use their open hands and extended arms to block.
And, they could chop, legwhip, etc..
It was a whole different game back then.
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Most definitely Robert.... 👍.
I totally agree.🏈😊
1969/1970 seasons were the best
Love the old uniforms, fell in love with the NY Giants around 67' when Francis came on board, still am...remember Pettigrew and Rossovich well....
For those of anyone who appreciates '60s-NFL history, at 31:06-31:14, the Lambeau Stadium scoreboard is visible, behind Coach Lombardi. This was from the final regular-season week of the 1967 season, in which the Steelers (who at the time were the "dregs" of the league), were leading the Packers , late in the 2nd qtr., and would go on to win this game. You'll notice also, that the scoreboard displays game-day scores under "Eastern" & "Western" conference titles. TERRIFIC! Thank you, Ed & Steve Sabol!!
Hope that PBR scoreboard is in a museum somewhere but I doubt it. It's fabulous.
The scores posted by conference is a delicious oddity indeed, given it doesn't account for inter-conference games, nor the fact that for the '67 season (and the two that followed) the NFL had no Eastern / Western Conferences, just the four C divisions- Century, Coastal, Central... and the other one.
My first pro football game was at the LA Coliseum in December of 1959. Rams and Colts. Unitas killed the Rams that day. I was 14.
I can only imagine what Rossovich did with the donuts that were for reporters, considering Pettigrew said "the donuts were in the middle of Tim."
simply the best !
Dick butkis , a guy that big, with a name like that , his life was pretty much determined by high school
👏👏👏👍that was f***ing Great!🏈👌🖒. ty,🍻
Glad you enjoyed it
8:47 Howard bloviating like only he could.
What a great video
14:37: LOL. The guy runs ten yards after the runner is down and pops him the back! Can't do that today....
Sabol says football is still a violent game... and that’ll never change. Well today’s NFL is doing everything they can to make the game less violent. I think Steve was right.
No doubt it's still a violent game, but not as much as in the past.
The NFL and College Football is in a bind. They know the writing is on the wall and that TBI is going to kill the sport of football within 20 years
unless they make massive changes. On the flip side, those changes are alienating the old-school fan base that thinks the sport has gone soft.
High School and College Football could very well be regional sports within 10 years.
My God, Cosell had an amazing grasp of the English language.
a veritable plethora of encyclopedic knowledge.
Cosell was an intelligent man, indeed. He was no slouch, that's for sure. I think he studied law, and was a lawyer prior to his broadcasting career.
He tried to educate Johnny Carson on the correct usage of 'who' and 'whom' but got it all wrong.
John Fascenda was the MASTER...
he could raise color from the black & silver from the Raider's uniforms with his voice!
Very interesting period in NFL history. The astroturf concept was simply awful, from both aethestic and health reasons...
That was essentially the 1970's..
So many careers were cut short due to injuries related to playing on AstroTurf. Billy Sims, for one.
Why astroturf?? Should use real grass like how they do in Rugby.
@@lbradshaw6817 It was to save money, you don't need professional groundsmen to look after artificial turf.
Bill Glass was correct about the degradation of our culture and its impact on our society. Interesting to note that even NFL Films 50 years ago was afraid to publish diversity of thought.
This is what football is all about. Not that pussycat softball crap people watch nowadays. Fewer flags as well. They really let the players play back then.
CAN YOU PLAY...BITCH!!!
I agree, Brady wouldn't have lasted 7 seasons back then
It's too bad multipurpose stadiums are virtually nonexistent. The Detroit Lions played in Tiger Stadium from 1938-39,1941-74. The team spent the 1940 season at University of Detroit Stadium.
Was that Marty schottenheimer near the end 43:05??
that is the late player/coach.
What did Cowell say?
Did they digitize all the old films?
I agree John belongs in nfl hall of fame
Game was a true game of atrition back then. Im glad a qb and receiver is more protected today. Yup they sittin dunks. Men were hurt awful on catches over the middle.
A great legacy for the Sabols. NFL Films just isn't the same w/o them; it's become too corporate and sterile.
You got that right. I hate the dreaded " a football life". Can't they come up with something new after 20 years?
Entire episode was worth the wait to see and hear Facenda work...and fuck up my Raiders' names 😂
All bull the only reason stadium got astroturf is owners were getting greedy so didn't want to keep spending money on real grass
Is there any chance you can upload 1972 World Series Game 7 A's at Reds and 1974 World Series Game 5 Dodgers at A's Please, I Like Those World Series Games.
rest assured if i had them i would upload them.
sure Nate, no worries. i just meant if i get my hands on them i'd be happy to upload them. i'd like to see those games too.
8:47 Cosell was right about the draft then, and it applies to the draft today.
Fashion is like traffic on the highway; it goes in and out the boundaries!😂😂😂😂😂
Man I wish Howard Cosell had social media or he lived during social media. He easily would have the most followers because he can get people to love and hate him at the same time lol
That guy sounds like the way Bill pollution of the colts played
6:27 Absolute montage of mayhem!
Huge thumbs down for this presentation. It's at least 3 hours too short.
take a minute and think about it.
Sure is a great film! :)
I grew up in San Francisco in the hippie era. Page Street is one block from Haight Street.
And the only thing you could smell is sandlewood incense and "Grass".
Astroturf makes the game safer.......um no!
They mention Lombardi being lonely but it was not like he didn't have a family.
Of course I have heard he was not a great family man and which my understanding was mentioned in a book about him.
“When Pride Still Mattered” by David Maraniss. Among the best biographies ever written. And yes, Lombardi was a pitifully neglectful husband and father, by all accounts. His own son and daughter were very explicit about all of this, including their mother’s loneliness and resultant alcoholism.
Interesting to see the early thoughts on "turf" as even todays fake fields continue to be linked to increased injury rate and intensity. Also Cosell's breakdown of the Draft, which is totally true. HC would die of a laugh attack at what todays draft has become in terms of presentation and even more that thousands of fans choose to attend in person.
that was wonderful got me choked up for that bygone era of sport..
The Vikings became a great team1968 70
Ironically, it was the hiring of Bud Grant as HC and the trading of Tarkington to the Giants in exchange for draft picks which brought in Alan Page, that
first made the Vikings a great team. It was also Tarkington returning to the Vikings in 72, that set up the most successful run in franchise history
of 4 NFC title appearances with 3 wins and 3 losing Super Bowl appearances between 73 and 77.
I liked the Eagles white helmets.
63 ,64 ,65 66 BILLS JUST MISSED A DYNYSTY
The game today is too nice, the field is too perfect from its colors to its surface. Not an imperfection in the field or turf left. Games in Dome stadium's or stadiums with retractable roofs. All you needed in stadiums was a regulation size field with 10 yard end zones at each end and 100 yards in between. This surrounded by seats or bleachers for fans to sit on. That is all that is needed. You don't need luxury indoor box booths and seating, fancy built in restaurants or souvenirs, advertisements and signs you don't care to look at, you are there to watch the game or stay home. Who cares about the weather, the perfect field with plastic grass color painted perfectly with permanent lines painted in place. Where are the grass stains, the dust, the mud, dirt, and if it rains or even snows so be it. It is all fair when both teams have to play in it. These imperfections did not cause more injuries, they actually presented an appeal that is missing now that use to be there. Artificial turf actually caused more injuries and was like actual concrete when frozen. No more really rain soaked fields as they have drainage built in. Bottom line is the NFL and any sport really has made alot of additions that are not needed and what people just don't want to see like an advertisement for a chiropractor. Too many concessions. A game lasts three hours, eat before or after, if you can't go without eating during that time and are willing to pay what they now charge you are a PIG plain and simple. Dress appropriately, soft drinks or water are fine, get up to use the bathroom that is it. Otherwise stay in/at your seat and do what you came to do, watch the darn game. If you want to watch at the stadium like you are sitting in your livingroom then stay at home with your easy chair, gourmet, beer, and remote. Two changes about games and stadiums I like because they are for darn good reasons. First one is large or larger scoreboards around the stadium inside with video/replay of the game. Some people miss play angles based on their view. Certain views/seating is obviously closer and better than others sitting up in the upper deck or at the top in the clouds and behind the stupid drunk(s) that won't sit down blocking your view. The other change was moving goal posts from the goal line to the back line of the endzone many years ago. Keeps players from colliding with them on scoring or attempted scoring plays. The game itself has a long list of things defenses can no longer do that use to be legal. Now with a perfect field and perfect surface that isn't any help either. Do you really like to see defenses stopping offenses or offenses just stopping themselves? Last team that gets the ball wins? Yes, a 13-10 game is as exciting and hard hitting as a 52-48 game. Defense is exciting, so is Special Team play, kickoffs are a joke, just start at the 25, forget the kickoff. Injuries are still a big part of the game as it always was, just more of them are recognized and taken more seriously like concussions. The NFL use to have alot of appeal, much of it to do with unique fields and stadiums, imperfections, now it is almost like watching a Madden computer game.
The era of appealing primarily to blue-collar fans is long since over. The real money is in appealing to corporate sponsors and those people want an overproduced experience, not a gritty athletic contest. The NFL doesn't care about grouchy, old-school fans who want to tell everybody else how
they should act at a game. The NFL is about generating cash any way it can. Fantasy football has gone from the realm of being a means to draw
nerds to football, to a means to draw in casual fans and women. Soon you will be able to lay down a football bet at any NFL stadium. Guys who just
want smash-mouth football are going the way of the dinosaur and the woolly mammoth. Accept reality, the NFL is never going back.
You didn't need fantasy football either, the game was enough
I think its better you don't live. You cannot change or grow.
Didn't old man Sabol own a pawn shop in Vegas ? Kidding ..
The league had to eliminate a lot of the violence that the NFL had by changing a lot of the rules. a lot of stars were going down ...You have to much money invested in these players today. .. You would have a lot of careers finished if they didn't. ..
Yep. It was the yellow teeth people era. (see thumbnail)
Now, you have that all to yourself, The Vanilla..extract that..
The biggest lie ever told was the League and Owners saying Astro Turf would cut down on injuries. They even got the trainers to lie about it. The rise in knee injures and Brain damage CTE with players heads hitting concrete like turf when it was freezing cold in November and December. Football was always meant to be played on grass and there was something about seeing players get dirty and muddy that had a certain appeal to me as a fan who has been watching since 1963 when My Giants lost to the Bears.
Jees its funny what he says to vince. Your gonna be the john w. Of football
I'm Bill pellingtion
bela Lugosi , looks just like em
Could 3 years be considered an "era"?
the era is not 3 years, the 3 years is the end to that era, in other words, the "end of an era".
not so much today...with turf
Hippes bad...unkay??
A very stupid unnecessary game... Ban it.... Boxing, and the UFC also...
Teeth are like hens teeth
Racism was still around in the 1960s as it is today.
Go play in traffic.
It's worse today the racists hide it with language