you would be the first person I know to have this gun. So i was really curious about it. I hope my 290 is here tomorrow.. although i'm pretty positive it will be just like the TH so I am pretty confident i know how it will perform.
i almost hate to do a negative review.. BUT i had to. I have the 270, used a 770, and the 290 i expect to be much like the iwata TH. Creos for sure has been solid quality. Its hard to explain to anyone who hasn't had a japanese brush. Iwata is the same.. its just always quality out of the box performance. Thanks for commenting and stopping by!
Thanks for the great review. I wonder if drilling out the hole would help; a reviewer on Amazon seemed to have good results after drilling it out. I love the price of this thing, but the PS-290 is a better investment. The review is detailed and indepth.
realizing id have to modify both the needle and the air, just made it a not worth it item for me. I realize they made the air holes out further in order to facilitate the longer taper of the needle. which really makes the effort in making it perform well not worth the hassle. Combined with the already flaking chrome... leads me to be concerned about the internal quality as well. the 290 is so far above this there is not even a comparison :)
Thanks for doing this review. I have used the large cup sprayers in my line of work and of course they can really put out the paint. When you started doing this review I was thinking that the Masters airbrush was going to be a mini version of the large cup sprayer but it certainly isn't. Like you said, it's nice that the airbrush comes with all of the accessories but it doesn't make the airbrush any better.
Glad it was helpful!. Now if you find the ps290 review that is likely more what you would be wanting. The master had potential, but sadly lack of engineering and testing made it a complete letdown. As the channel grows im hopeful I am able to review a lot more products so people can know what to expect :) However im all self funded for now :)
@@TheAIRspace I know what you mean about 'self funded'. I retired from Seaworld where I worked as a scenic painter/prop fabricator and back then I made good money. I could afford to buy most art supplies. However, I have to watch what I spend and make sound choices. A couple of months ago I bought a Master G22 gun and compressor kit. My pancake compressor is too loud for the paint room and even though I have a Paasche airbrush, it's an old model and it's a pain to clean. This Master airbrush works just fine and the little compressor is small and pretty quiet. No fan cap though which sometimes makes it difficult to spray a base color. I am mostly a brush painter but have been enjoying creating cosmic scenes like the Milky Way over Stonehenge and over the pyramids of Giza. I recently got into doing acrylic pours without the 'cells' and I add planets and other elements to the canvas. However, I am sort of impatient and it's hard waiting for the paint of the pours to dry. I watched your video on the G77 and I wasn't impressed with the way the paint spread. It didn't fan out like it should have. I enjoy your videos. They are very informative and interesting. You are a very talented artist for sure.
@@TheAIRspace It was! I loved my job but upper management was always creating discontent in the department. It brought the morale down. I had to take an early retirement because my mom got dementia and although I have siblings, none of them wanted the responsibility. All the years I took care of my mother however, I stayed busy painting and working on other hobbies while my mom slept in her recliner. I was a scenic artist at Disney before I got the job at Seaworld. I've worked all over that park including Animal Kingdom. Now THAT was a fun job. The crew consisted of three ladies, a cool boss (male) and a day laborer. We themed all of the monkey 'temples', Kali Rapids ride and a lot of other things in Animal Kingdom. If you've ever been to Animal Kingdom and rode the rafting ride you would have drifted under the 'burning logs'. We were on top of that structure spray painting everything while the plasterers worked below creating the 'bark' on the fake logs. Lots of fun memories there.
@@sandrajohnson2489 very very cool stuff. id love to do some prop stuff. Had i started art earlier in life,,, that would have been ideal for me .. i like to build stuff. And spent most of my life as a plumber. And grew up building things and woodworking. I have managed to do a few prop things.. but nothing like amusement park level :)
I been looking for an air brush I can do full base and backings for rc bodies. I have an iwata eclipse and it’s a detail gun… I bought the badger 105 bcs it had the biggest tip available 0.50mm and still I get too much over spray bcs it atomizes too fine and filling/building material takes tooooo long. What can I get to get wet applications and more like a 1mm tip maybe 1.5 but also has good control if it’s a 1.5 I don’t want to have to use s mini hvlp spray gun bcs for rc car bodie application and Createx paint it might waste material and build too much too quick unless it’s that $600 iwata hybrid. I’d expect this gun in this video to have an oval spray pattern. What’s out there to suit me???
1.5 would be huge.. bigger than a clearcoat gun for most automotive. You must mean the iwata eclipse BCS there is no badger bcs, and the patriots normal small tip is a .5 the extremes is a .3 and there is the .7 on the medium tip. The gsi creos ps290 is a .5 but that is misleading in the .5 with that type of needle is far different than a .5 with an airbrush. And it is one of the best options for what you are talking about.
@@kenbarton3136 depends.. I've used a few varnishes. I usually if I'm using createx on canvas I use the 5620 or whatever the Matt version of that is. Which is an often overlooked createx product. I also use a mineral spirits based archival grade from Windsor and newton on a lot of them. And I also have had some luck with a house brand local art store varnish. Since on canvas I'm merely looking for water resistant coatings and making the gloss level the same throughout the image. On panels.. I use either the createx 5620/5621 etc. And if I'm going super glossy it's getting 2k clear. Occasionally I'll use rattle can clearcoat on some simple low cost things.
Look at the no name minigun. The creos ps290 And for smaller items the badger Omni/ badger patriot. I have vids on 3 of those at least A super budget higher volume airbrush is the timber tech airbrush I also did a review on. Depends on how big of a pearl and how big the models are
micro air control valve. It allows you to control the volume of air passing through the airbrush on the front of the brush versus adjusting the regulator. (they also have them that hook up to the bottom of the airbrush)
Can you recommend an airbrush that will spray cerakote? I'm want something that doesn't consume as much as a LPh80 but put out roughly the same amount of paint. The Th2 vault is a bit expensive. Any recommendations would help. Oh and I'll be using the California Air tool 10gallon Air compressor. Thanks
While I responded on the other thread. 2 things.. the th2 is just a little bit bigger than this in spray. And the lph80 would easily run off a 10 gallon california air compressor. While the LPH 80 definitely uses more air than the ps290. The lph80 is the king of low volume actual spray guns.
If you can get a needle thats not as tapered.. it would help it flow better. but ultimately the angle of the fan forks is too great to get a really nice fan pattern and means the forks will build up with too much product if you increase the paint flow significantly.. its really way too much work to make it worthwhile..
creos 290 is the way to go cheaper than the iwata but from what i heard they are made in the same plant in japan. i spent money on those cheap chinese brushes never ever again
I should have the 290 today, no question creos to this point has had great quality so i expect ill be happy. There is still the whole fixed pattern fan to deal with.. I mostly dont use chinese brushes. I do have one pretty good gem here the pz 360. However in most cases its always better to go with a trusted quality brand.
@@TheAIRspace you will be happy with the 290 I couldn't afford a micron so i bought the 771 and wow I was impressed, then I was looking for a brush to spray a fan pattern like you but the same situation couldn't afford the th2 so again I went with creos the 290 and once again not at all disappointed. the 290 has a great fan pattern and will put out some material even with a .5 needle ( im used to spray guns I work in autobody ) it also has a round cap for a round pattern, and for another 40 bucks you can get a 4 oz cup . I did see on a you tube video where a guy had one set up for the 3m pps cups but he said it was customized. would be nice to be able to use those .
@@craigminor3665 I saw createx has a th modified for 3m cups as well. it really wouldn't be too difficult to make an adapter. I have used the regular th but not the new th2. Or the grex. I own an original olympos micron the mp200 series. Ive used both a cmc+and a 770 and it really is no serious difference. Ironically i almost never use a micron anymore, I keep a 270 and an iwata ecplipse hanging all the time despite having many brushes to play with. Its here now :) And first thing is I wish it came with a handle.. i do not have large hands and seriously thats a bit of a crunch. but its a minor thing I could just hang a filter on it to take some space. I used to have an lph80. and likely to get one again if the year finishes strong. But I wont need any big guns i expect until after I move. And even if i do it will be one or two small projects. I expect to do a lot more review videos this year, and may even review things ive had for a long time. Because information is good. But i wont stop doing tutorials either... I am hopeful come december ill have lots of christmas type stuff to put out. Some things will be not airbrush but art stuff anyway Depends how fast i can clear the backlog of portraits.. hopeful ill do some ornaments and things this year, last year I was entirely too busy. Thanks again!
@@TheAIRspace i would imaigne you would have to buy a 3 m pps adapter with threads close to the size of the airbrush cup then reuce them down to fit. problem is who knows what size threads are on the adapeter cause each brand of spray gun has its own adapter they areall numbered to fit differnet guns like delvilbis , satajet , iwata . if you could find someone to machine it down to the right size threads that would be ideal .
@@TheAIRspace thats what I noticed also it would be nice to have a handle , they do make one but I think it is about 30 bucks ,,, I just use a filter on the end of my hose and then a quick connect fitting .
I can’t tell if you are being serious or joking. However if you orient the head horizontal you get a vertical fan and vice versa. In most cases you would align horizontally so you get a vertical fan pattern side to side. There are exceptions. However even if I had it twisted on any axis, it shouldn’t be throwing a round pattern.
@@TheAIRspace indeed! these and harbor freight need to be exposed...so many artists have probably given up before truly getting to experience the joy of brushing because they bought these "affordable" options. You do great work, keep it up!
@@TheAIRspace for sure! but i still advise against it. Using one almost made me quit, because I had nothing to compare it to! Lol, its the same with hand tools, once you get a properly tuned and quality tool, it changes the game!
I like the no BS review. I picked up this gun a while back and found the same results. I ended up with the 290 its a great gun.
Great video Bill.
you would be the first person I know to have this gun. So i was really curious about it. I hope my 290 is here tomorrow.. although i'm pretty positive it will be just like the TH so I am pretty confident i know how it will perform.
As a newbie you saved me from that one. To be honest I already was eyeing the PS290 myself. This made up my mind. Thanks So much.
Yeah, stay away from Master Airbrush. They range from complete junk, to just meh' at best.
Thank you for the review! Straight forward and to the point.
your welcome :)
great review . I have the GSI 290 its awesome . I also have the 771 I cannot recommend them enough.
i almost hate to do a negative review.. BUT i had to. I have the 270, used a 770, and the 290 i expect to be much like the iwata TH. Creos for sure has been solid quality. Its hard to explain to anyone who hasn't had a japanese brush. Iwata is the same.. its just always quality out of the box performance.
Thanks for commenting and stopping by!
@@TheAIRspace The Iwata handle also fits the 290
Thanks for the great review. I wonder if drilling out the hole would help; a reviewer on Amazon seemed to have good results after drilling it out. I love the price of this thing, but the PS-290 is a better investment. The review is detailed and indepth.
realizing id have to modify both the needle and the air, just made it a not worth it item for me. I realize they made the air holes out further in order to facilitate the longer taper of the needle. which really makes the effort in making it perform well not worth the hassle. Combined with the already flaking chrome... leads me to be concerned about the internal quality as well. the 290 is so far above this there is not even a comparison :)
Thanks for doing this review.
I have used the large cup sprayers in my line of work and of course they can really put out the paint. When you started doing this review I was thinking that the Masters airbrush was going to be a mini version of the large cup sprayer but it certainly isn't.
Like you said, it's nice that the airbrush comes with all of the accessories but it doesn't make the airbrush any better.
Glad it was helpful!. Now if you find the ps290 review that is likely more what you would be wanting. The master had potential, but sadly lack of engineering and testing made it a complete letdown. As the channel grows im hopeful I am able to review a lot more products so people can know what to expect :) However im all self funded for now :)
@@TheAIRspace I know what you mean about 'self funded'. I retired from Seaworld where I worked as a scenic painter/prop fabricator and back then I made good money. I could afford to buy most art supplies. However, I have to watch what I spend and make sound choices.
A couple of months ago I bought a Master G22 gun and compressor kit. My pancake compressor is too loud for the paint room and even though I have a Paasche airbrush, it's an old model and it's a pain to clean.
This Master airbrush works just fine and the little compressor is small and pretty quiet. No fan cap though which sometimes makes it difficult to spray a base color.
I am mostly a brush painter but have been enjoying creating cosmic scenes like the Milky Way over Stonehenge and over the pyramids of Giza.
I recently got into doing acrylic pours without the 'cells' and I add planets and other elements to the canvas. However, I am sort of impatient and it's hard waiting for the paint of the pours to dry.
I watched your video on the G77 and I wasn't impressed with the way the paint spread. It didn't fan out like it should have.
I enjoy your videos. They are very informative and interesting. You are a very talented artist for sure.
@@sandrajohnson2489 painting at sea world would have been lots of fun!
@@TheAIRspace It was! I loved my job but upper management was always creating discontent in the department. It brought the morale down. I had to take an early retirement because my mom got dementia and although I have siblings, none of them wanted the responsibility.
All the years I took care of my mother however, I stayed busy painting and working on other hobbies while my mom slept in her recliner.
I was a scenic artist at Disney before I got the job at Seaworld. I've worked all over that park including Animal Kingdom. Now THAT was a fun job. The crew consisted of three ladies, a cool boss (male) and a day laborer. We themed all of the monkey 'temples', Kali Rapids ride and a lot of other things in Animal Kingdom.
If you've ever been to Animal Kingdom and rode the rafting ride you would have drifted under the 'burning logs'. We were on top of that structure spray painting everything while the plasterers worked below creating the 'bark' on the fake logs.
Lots of fun memories there.
@@sandrajohnson2489 very very cool stuff. id love to do some prop stuff. Had i started art earlier in life,,, that would have been ideal for me .. i like to build stuff. And spent most of my life as a plumber. And grew up building things and woodworking. I have managed to do a few prop things.. but nothing like amusement park level :)
can you please share your thoughts on sparmax gp-850. I am confused between ps290 and gp-850.
i cant really comment on the gp 850, i dont have one here, i had considered picking one up to take a look over, but its not on the radar right now.
@@TheAIRspace i guess i would go for ps290 to be safe . thank you for your reply
Will these work on spraying 1/24 scale model cars, Like spray Kandies , Pearls and Flakes...
i do not recomend this brush at all. If you see my video on the gsi creos ps290 that brush will do exactly what you want :)
I been looking for an air brush I can do full base and backings for rc bodies. I have an iwata eclipse and it’s a detail gun… I bought the badger 105 bcs it had the biggest tip available 0.50mm and still I get too much over spray bcs it atomizes too fine and filling/building material takes tooooo long. What can I get to get wet applications and more like a 1mm tip maybe 1.5 but also has good control if it’s a 1.5 I don’t want to have to use s mini hvlp spray gun bcs for rc car bodie application and Createx paint it might waste material and build too much too quick unless it’s that $600 iwata hybrid. I’d expect this gun in this video to have an oval spray pattern. What’s out there to suit me???
1.5 would be huge.. bigger than a clearcoat gun for most automotive.
You must mean the iwata eclipse BCS there is no badger bcs, and the patriots normal small tip is a .5 the extremes is a .3 and there is the .7 on the medium tip.
The gsi creos ps290 is a .5 but that is misleading in the .5 with that type of needle is far different than a .5 with an airbrush. And it is one of the best options for what you are talking about.
Thanks Bill, good info.
yeah occasionally there are some gems.. this is not one of those :)
@@TheAIRspace bill what do you use to varnish your paintings... I have heard good things about the new createx water based too coats
@@kenbarton3136 depends..
I've used a few varnishes.
I usually if I'm using createx on canvas I use the 5620 or whatever the Matt version of that is. Which is an often overlooked createx product.
I also use a mineral spirits based archival grade from Windsor and newton on a lot of them.
And I also have had some luck with a house brand local art store varnish. Since on canvas I'm merely looking for water resistant coatings and making the gloss level the same throughout the image.
On panels.. I use either the createx 5620/5621 etc. And if I'm going super glossy it's getting 2k clear. Occasionally I'll use rattle can clearcoat on some simple low cost things.
Recommended a airbrush that can spray pearls?
Look at the no name minigun.
The creos ps290
And for smaller items the badger Omni/ badger patriot.
I have vids on 3 of those at least
A super budget higher volume airbrush is the timber tech airbrush I also did a review on.
Depends on how big of a pearl and how big the models are
What is a mac valve?
micro air control valve. It allows you to control the volume of air passing through the airbrush on the front of the brush versus adjusting the regulator. (they also have them that hook up to the bottom of the airbrush)
Can you recommend an airbrush that will spray cerakote? I'm want something that doesn't consume as much as a LPh80 but put out roughly the same amount of paint. The Th2 vault is a bit expensive. Any recommendations would help. Oh and I'll be using the California Air tool 10gallon Air compressor. Thanks
While I responded on the other thread. 2 things..
the th2 is just a little bit bigger than this in spray. And the lph80 would easily run off a 10 gallon california air compressor.
While the LPH 80 definitely uses more air than the ps290. The lph80 is the king of low volume actual spray guns.
@@TheAIRspace thank you for this response in additionto the other. I'll buy the lph80 then. I can get one for about $280ish.
I have one of these and I interested in any improvements you can make
If you can get a needle thats not as tapered.. it would help it flow better. but ultimately the angle of the fan forks is too great to get a really nice fan pattern and means the forks will build up with too much product if you increase the paint flow significantly.. its really way too much work to make it worthwhile..
At least you get a handle for the 290
needs a .7 minimum
creos 290 is the way to go cheaper than the iwata but from what i heard they are made in the same plant in japan.
i spent money on those cheap chinese brushes never ever again
I should have the 290 today, no question creos to this point has had great quality so i expect ill be happy. There is still the whole fixed pattern fan to deal with..
I mostly dont use chinese brushes. I do have one pretty good gem here the pz 360. However in most cases its always better to go with a trusted quality brand.
@@TheAIRspace you will be happy with the 290 I couldn't afford a micron so i bought the 771 and wow I was impressed, then I was looking for a brush to spray a fan pattern like you but the same situation couldn't afford the th2 so again I went with creos the 290 and once again not at all disappointed. the 290 has a great fan pattern and will put out some material even with a .5 needle ( im used to spray guns I work in autobody ) it also has a round cap for a round pattern, and for another 40 bucks you can get a 4 oz cup . I did see on a you tube video where a guy had one set up for the 3m pps cups but he said it was customized. would be nice to be able to use those .
@@craigminor3665 I saw createx has a th modified for 3m cups as well. it really wouldn't be too difficult to make an adapter.
I have used the regular th but not the new th2. Or the grex. I own an original olympos micron the mp200 series. Ive used both a cmc+and a 770 and it really is no serious difference. Ironically i almost never use a micron anymore, I keep a 270 and an iwata ecplipse hanging all the time despite having many brushes to play with. Its here now :) And first thing is I wish it came with a handle.. i do not have large hands and seriously thats a bit of a crunch. but its a minor thing I could just hang a filter on it to take some space.
I used to have an lph80. and likely to get one again if the year finishes strong. But I wont need any big guns i expect until after I move. And even if i do it will be one or two small projects. I expect to do a lot more review videos this year, and may even review things ive had for a long time. Because information is good. But i wont stop doing tutorials either... I am hopeful come december ill have lots of christmas type stuff to put out. Some things will be not airbrush but art stuff anyway Depends how fast i can clear the backlog of portraits.. hopeful ill do some ornaments and things this year, last year I was entirely too busy.
Thanks again!
@@TheAIRspace i would imaigne you would have to buy a 3 m pps adapter with threads close to the size of the airbrush cup then reuce them down to fit. problem is who knows what size threads are on the adapeter cause each brand of spray gun has its own adapter they areall numbered to fit differnet guns like delvilbis , satajet , iwata . if you could find someone to machine it down to the right size threads that would be ideal .
@@TheAIRspace thats what I noticed also it would be nice to have a handle , they do make one but I think it is about 30 bucks ,,, I just use a filter on the end of my hose and then a quick connect fitting .
dude !!.., your not using the brush quite rite, the head on the brush isn't oriented rite you had it horizontal instead of vertical.
I can’t tell if you are being serious or joking.
However if you orient the head horizontal you get a vertical fan and vice versa. In most cases you would align horizontally so you get a vertical fan pattern side to side. There are exceptions. However even if I had it twisted on any axis, it shouldn’t be throwing a round pattern.
ya know. ya know. ya know. gee wiz.
Boo! Return to sender!
yup
Too much toking
never buy master brushes...they are all terrible.
pretty much.. but i gotta review some so people know :)
@@TheAIRspace indeed! these and harbor freight need to be exposed...so many artists have probably given up before truly getting to experience the joy of brushing because they bought these "affordable" options. You do great work, keep it up!
@@justinsane332 well at least the harbour freight is just 12 bucks and local.
@@TheAIRspace for sure! but i still advise against it. Using one almost made me quit, because I had nothing to compare it to! Lol, its the same with hand tools, once you get a properly tuned and quality tool, it changes the game!