Its funny because during the playtest I was saying if the general public got access to the game, it was going to get review bombed simply because of the fact that A LOT (if not the majority) of players are going to have trouble running this game. And here we are today...
@@BigfryTVmy dude your takes are usually pretty spot on but what’s more likely do you think the game was released at this point because players were bitching for it to….or and IMO the more likely reason is that the studio saw Tarkovs massive fuck up and thought they could capitalize on the massive amount of players who now feel like tarkov isn’t an option. They definitely should have waited 6 months before releasing but they would have likely made way less money since the tarkov drama would have been forgotten at that point
@@johnwicks4936 p2w pricing is a joke lmao, extra stash space isnt pay to win, you dont get an edge in literally anything besides being able to shove more random garbage in you ahh and leaving it there while you actually play, it literally doesnt effect gameplay whatsoever, and the 1 or two starting guns you get can be made with starting traders ATLEAST 10 times over with the strarting money you get
What does big fry think of grayzone using a colored tape system that players can wear on there arms, legs, and gear to show what faction they are in. As seen in Ukraine, it’s used to easily differentiate two sides, and I think it would be a great alternative to identifying teammates from enemies, rather then pulling up your map every 2 minutes.
This seems like the most obvious fix. I say make it up to the player though if they want to wear them. If you want to go incognito, cool. But everyone might kill you, including teammates.
Colour tape is not only seen in Ukraine you nitwit. It's not for marking "factions" either. Go back to call of duty the unrealistic arcade shooter equivalent to fortnite.
Early access is basically "We are going to work on that game and change stuff about it". But as soon as the developer asks money for their game it should be treated same way as any other product on the market
The real surprise is Early access game often never become a real game and stay for ever in EA...streamer having i9 and 4090 paid by the simps are not there to help the casuals gamers... The devs know it and they use it
That driver update is important for invidia users I updated that drive before launching the game because gzw said without updating driver will have tons of issues
Early access was the biggest mistake for the gaming industrie. It opened the door for scams, asset flips and any publisher has become way too comfortable releasing "finished" games that are barely in an early access stage. Which leads to when a game is in early access people have way to high of expectations for it because early access is every game release these days.
BG3 was in early access for a long time and was incredibly buggy when it first came out, and now it's undeniably one of the best games ever made. Don't write off the whole thing just because the majority of EA stuff is crap.
On other side when its full release they can just say well its full release we are not doing shit anymore its out now as it is and just continue making new game
They didn’t release it because of the complaints. They released it because of the timing. The needed the attention and people to buy in before they bought into another similar title
Yeah its beyond obvious what Gray zone is trying to do, but this youtuber has a room temp IQ to be this confident about his opinion on the state of this game.
@@legischafing7Who said I was defending anything? Did you also forget the fact that it is an early release? Not a "Beta" like Tarkov has been since release. Even with it being a pre-release, it still has hours upon hours of enjoyment. Tarkov is dying with their greed.
@@reaper_taco Who gives a fuck about if it's early access, these companies need to stop releasing games in such a poor state. Stop comparing this game to Tarkov, this game is riddled with bugs and little content.
@@jamesporter1653that isn't a change.. its always been the case that you can't group with an enemy faction. Unless you mean they're changing that so that you CAN. In which case, that makes 0 sense
I gave them $35 as I WANT this game to succeed. More independent studios need to gain traction and show AAA studios how it's done. Everyone and my money being spent is MORE likely to up the process and give devs people funding to hire more people than to give wigs at a triple a publisher free money.
This this right here is the problem people will rage about tripple a games then support this generic broken trash you think this is gonna show tarkov devs how it's done I have yet to see anything from this game that's not boring generic assetts the game is so bad it's a extraion shooter with no real loot LOL
They didn't care about you then either, it was always how much money they could make but we've made it clear they could do less and less and we give more and more over the years.
@@GodlyKJ What? Who cares what a dev team thinks as long as they deliver the goods. This is just purity spiraling to gaslight the guy for pointing out how bad the game industry is. Like seriously, what motivated you to even write that?
This was literally slapped with a giant label that says “EARLY ACCESS” if you bought this game thinking it was a fully done game you have a brain made of mulch.
I think the reason the game got pushed out so early is because gray zone wanted to jump on that "tarkov is dying" train after the release of unhinged edition
Agreed they should have gave it more development time… Problem is that doing this could ruin them and make them give up and the hope is they make it a better more solid game but people are vicious and don’t hold back it’s I better like it now or I’m not playing again
Couldn't be, steam requires you to submit the finished game build AT LEAST 2 weeks in advance of launching. Likely months ahead since there is a back and forth process
I would agree with you bigfry, except weve seen titles such as battlebit remastered release countless, limited playtests to the community and still released a good product on launch. Its not entitlement, its expecting a working product upon early access release.
So two things, those were "limited" playtests. And they didn't work perfect out of the gate. Second, the fucking game hasn't launched yet. Expecting a working title upon early access is the definition of entitlement. How do you not see the contradiction in your own statements?
@@rabidkangar00 this is exactly what i have been saying about this. These are the games experts program masters of the universe who know beyond a shadow of a doubt due to there expertise in all things games that this should be a complete polished product at early access. I mean really mad finger games should have hired these people and promoted all of them to top level executive positions. Anyways the game has a great foundation and will be something special in the future.
@rabidkangar00 it's not though. The point of limited playtests is to stress test the game. If three guys could do it and do it for free(the big thing) gray zone has no excuse. It's especially considering the fact this is a $40 early access title that basically does nothing really new besides satiate the tactical shooter player base. Not to mention, this isn't the first time bigfry has come out like this to defend a crappy launch. When battlefield 2042 was coming out, him and the other youtubers said "its a beta, stop being entitled" when there was clear evidence the game was not ready to launch at all. Then, when the game came out at launch and we were proven right, bigfry basically came out and said "sorry guys, but its not my fault I hyped this game up and it came out like this. Cut us youtubers some slack". He's basically pulling the same shit here as he did nearly 3 years ago. Point is, we aren't entitled, the youtubers and devs are. We consumers are the reason why they are able to do what they love, and as much as the gaming community can be toxic at times, this is not one of those times.
I agree with you on most of your videos but you trying to save the devs by saying that they released the game because were complaining that streamers got access is just dead wrong. The majority of people who bought this game were normal gamers that saw the hype on RUclips and tiktok and they bought it and couldn’t run it. People who complained about streamers getting access is probably 1% of the total buyers. They released the game cause of the TikTok hype. If the devs truly did release the game because a couple people felt some time of way that streamers got access then the devs deserve the hate cause that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard They released a game that doesn’t work. Most people who buy games don’t look at it as an alpha build or a work in progress. They see the hyped. They see the gameplay. They see it’s available to purchase with money then they see it doesn’t work and it gets negative reviews. Idk why your trying to save the devs here. It shouldn’t have been made available to public at all in this state and blaming a couple complainers is a pretty low excuse
"Most people who buy games don’t look at it as an alpha build or a work in progress. " -- So people ignore the giant EARLY ACCESS stated in the title and sale page, yet you place the blame on the devs? Entitled af.
Early Access is not an excuse to bring out totally unplayable sh.. !!! And for most people it is not playable !!! Get your Head out of BigFrys Backend and start accepting Reality !!!!!
EFT is a game which they have played and know they enjoy so they're willing to forgive issues like that, GZW is unproven so there's going to be people who are less forgiving of the issues that the game has.
@@OrionDawn15 i bought edge of darkness 6 years ago and have played every year since (stopping late 2023). if you ask me the true chumps are the ones spending 80 for cod, playing 3 months and then stopping until the next cod is released, with the amount i paid (basically 2 triple A titles) i got WELL over enough gameplay to justify that purchase. yeah i got fked over but to me iv already gotten my moneys worth, so it doesnt really hurt that bad to let nikita burn by his lonesome
It's hard for people who don't pay attention to the industry to tell the difference between a low-effort cash grab and an incredibly ambitious and promising project in an early state. I was absolutely flamed for covering this game early on; called a shill, paid sponsorship, what have you; and I understand why. But I do hope that now that the game is public, people can see and interact with Madfinger in the way I have over the past months and understand why this game, and team, are different. Hoping for the best for them!
@@Zetslev You do realize that optimization is the last thing you do, right? Otherwise you gotta do it over and over again every time you change something. That's what fascinates me the most about Early Access - people that expect a game that's not early access.
One thing I learned is no matter how great everything is running and setup nothing is truly ready for a massive influx of players with PCs that are below minimum specs, 2 year old GPU drivers, i9 - 1660 combo. The list goes on and on either way fun watching it from the other side and many awesome fixes are on the way 💪
I have a PC with specs above the minimum requirement but cannot get above 60 FPS, even with all the settings on the lowest possible options plus FSR and framegen on. I have mates with crazy pc rigs, barely getting 100 FPS with low settings and FSR/framegen on. It's just not well optimized and people have rightly wrote negative reviews on the subject. As you said, many fixes are indeed on the way and I can only hope it becomes more playable for me in the near future.
I get the points but in my opinion "Early Access" shouldn't even really be a thing. It has been a system abused so many times by so many developers so I sort of get the opposing side's point. Why can't developers just actually finish a product for once and get it to the standards it was supposed to be THEN release it and do some post-launch updates to it if need be. Developers are so quick to just chuck out unfinished products to make some cash then either run away or never really finish it. Or people play the Early Access so much by the time full release comes out they are bored and don't care about it anymore because the next big thing is out. Edit: Looking into these developers, "Madfinger Games" are originally devs of popular mobile games, now going for a project this big. If that doesn't ring a bell I don't know what does.
Because money, turns out making a game costs it, a lot of it. At some point developers realise they have a significant work load and are running out of capital, releasing an EA game allows them to continue and further development than only using your intitial capital. Also Publishers will grant them funding, but at a point demand a return, so they force games onto the market to start the revenue stream.
@@several. But see that is the exact issue going back to my point. There was a time where we actually got finished product with barely any issues (either devs got crowd funded, budget was calculated accordingly to the needs of the game sometimes, or there was some solid foundation made before the development cycle ever happened. In short it is called "having a plan".). This has become an unhealthy norm for the industry and you need to understand why people get somewhat pissed off, real easily.
@@lilmess3816 Because games are becoming exponentially more complicated due to consumer demand, with more polish, more features, better graphics. Yet games have only declined in price adjusted for inflation. It's taking more and more capital to make a "video game" , take mortal lords for example, that's practically a complete game (Still EA) and it took the single dev 6 years.
@@several. If companies stopped hiring new staff to replace their burnt out staff they might not have to re-learn how their entire game engine, API and set of tools work every time they start a new game project.
when AAA publishers force their devs to basically turn AAA games into early access projects, AA and indie titles will follow with even less content and production value. There are a faint number of indie games which are really valuable and amazing projects, but most will get squeezed between AAA and the ground by the constantly changing demand and pressure
the problem here is ..... if its not optimised thats fine... but do not.... i repeat....DO NOT !!!! put up RECOMMENDED SPECS, that do not even get consistent 60 FPS native....Just say " its unoptimised - minimum specs are RTX 40 series".... Lower the system requirements AFTER optimisation OR if you want to have people test lower end hardware run a FREE beta.. There are people who paid money, who are way above minimum specs and cannot really play. Thats is just false advertising luring people in to buy and has nothing to do with early access. Would you buy a car that does not run with the fuel thats recommended and let the developer get away with "we will introduce new gasoline 5 months in the future - guess you have to wait" of course not
Honestly, it should've been an open playtest, not a launch to early access simple as that imo. It needed more time, first impressions matter more than the devs seem to realize. It really looks like they wanted to capitalize off of the tarkov drama even if that wasn't the case.
They would have had to submit this to steam at least weeks in advance. On top of that EVERYONE interested in this game knew it's current state. How can you knowingly buy something and then get mad at it for being what you knew it was?
@@rabidkangar00 I disagree, not everyone knew because the only people who had access are people with the best computers. Once again open playtest would’ve helped with this, enabling people with worse pcs to test their hardware before spending money. A large percentage of people bought the game and can’t run it, pretty obvious why they are mad tbh. I don’t know if the first part you said is true, but I also don’t actually believe the Tarkov drama is the main reason they released. They would have to have extremely poor judgement for that.
@@rabidkangar00 I was somewhat interested in this game cuz a streamer I watch hyped it up I almost pre-ordered it as well but would've had 0 idea about performance since most gameplay saw was people staring at grass looking for content
IL be honest I don't think a playtest would've done any good for the game at its core of you get passed the bugs the game truly does not have any real content this feels like one of those proof of concept projects
Not at all. The image was carefully curated. Big enough red flag. I always say it.. if devs arent willing to public playtest.. don't buy it @@rabidkangar00
The reviews unjustified the experience I am having with the game. This game run and play better than tarkov day 1 early access release. The game has a great foundation to build upon. With enough time, support and dev competency it could become a good game.
I miss the old "here's the finished product, thank you for your money" days. After all we've been through this so many times in a last decade that EA shouldn't be a thing at this point. But money is a helluva drug.
EA is used mainly for crowdsourcing money to fund the project. Most actual crowd sourced projects end up being scams so its either or at this point. You either choose to support the project with your wallet or you dont. These indie dev studios have an uphill battle from the start especially projects like this one where are many different mechanics and nuance to the game. Like ive said before im impressed with the amount of polish they actually have at this point in development.
Coming from dayz, squad, tarkov, star citizen, this game had an INCREDIBLE launch. I say that as someone who bought the supporter pack and my whole locker is bugged. Who cares? It’s early access and I’m absolutely loving it.
@@mixedvibes1879 And how long has Star Citizen been in development for? Oh yeah let's compare the game that just released into EA less than a week ago to one that has been in EA for a decade at this point.
@@mixedvibes1879 Ok and you're still comparing 10 years of development to less than a week? Plus Star Citizen has had millions of dollars invested into it. They have over 600 devs working on it. That's AAA studio size.
Testing is not early access. You do beta or alpha test, without a price. Unless the developer need funding, then early access is not the play. You are not comparing apples to apples in this video. Although I agree on the entitled part, but I don't really see it on this one.
They did need money. They kinda gave it away in Livestream they didn't have enough to pay for all the servers. One of the reasons they did EA when they did. On top of the main ones.
i agree, but from the devs perspective the revenue they get validates all they've invested up till now, and is also their only source of revenue until something like cosmetics are added. You're always free to wait until the game is developed more anyway.
I played for three hours with my buddy yesterday afternoon. Ran awesome. No issues. We hopped back on right around the hot fix and everything went to shit lol. We still spent the next four hours playing and dealing with the issues. Still fun as game with a lot of potential
They should have done a public beta... that would have fixed all these problems. They wanted the money upfront though, and the timing of Tarkov shooting itself was the perfect opportunity to cash out. Not saying they're going to abandon the game, but they definitely capitalized on the emotional community
I feel like things are going pretty well for GZW. Maybe I just remember Dead Matter's launch and compare all others against that... Good old *first time* meme.
I absolutely agree with you on this. It's getting harder than ever for indie devs to make their way forward. I'm really excited for this amazing game that they have made, it finally fills a hole that I've had for a long time. I was surprised about them releasing this game so quickly after the test as I did think they would take some time to iron out some things before early access release, but now I can see why they did so.
You're talking about a company that doesn't seem to understand what a close beta is. You mentioned that people wanted real testing and not just content creators. However, if you search for the term "close beta", it's defined as "A limited release of a product to a select group of people for testing and feedback." Moreover, content creators testing the game doesn't qualify as a close beta because this game is meant to be played with a lot of players (48 in total, 16 per faction). Therefore, Madfinger Games decided to release a game that requires payment to test and provide feedback. This raises the question: what are close beta and open beta for?
I learned my lesson with BSG and Tarkov: no paying for early access/alpha/beta testing. I'll wait until a fully polished game is released and there is a ton of gameplay footage showing a non-buggy mess.
Yup, I usually only buy early access games when they appeal a ton to me (and I saw gameplay - which happens rarely enough for the sole reason that I don't want it to be an entirely different game to what I bought upon launch) or when I know that they got mod support and are high on my list (like Incursion Red River, even tho it's not yet officially integrated people already started making smaller ones). Wanted to get GZW, but then realized that if I want to play it coop, I'm locked out of friendly fire damage, so it's essentially just running around with your friends and no one gotta pay attention to not hit their team mates, which takes away too much for me (and the friends I usually play with) to invest into a not yet finished product.
@@MrSpronkets That's not a problem. There is literally hundreds of games to play right now. AAA crowd has small brains, it seems like they have RAM to remember only one or two games existing and then they crash.
Imagine you invest money into a game and aren’t able to give constructive criticism 😂😂😂buddy made a video about people complaining that a PRODUCT THEY BOUGHT DOES NOT WORK AS INTENDED LIVE IN REALITY
@@BigfryTV So the game's price is going to go up over time? early access that is free seems more of a good excuse to dismiss issues, but when you selling your product for a full price, they can definitely be a reason to not want to buy it or accept "early access" as an excuse to not have the game you payed for run properly.
@@dylanhaugen7875 even with this argument, my point is people are spending $35 for a game to work at least as expected despite it being early access, I'm not saying the game cant be a work in progress, but at least should run fine on more than good enough PCs and servers making it unplayable at times.
content creators GOT access to the game the rest of us have PAID for a product and the product should be as advertised. People would be much more understanding if it was a free beta instead of a paid product. Asking to get what you paid for is not entitlement or being unreasonable in any way
The games so fun when it works but I’ve been brute forcing it with some of the best hardware available and still get pretty heavy frame issues every now and then so I can only imagine what happens for a average gaming pc around the 500-700 dollar mark
While in school for my video game diploma and bachelor the one thing we are always drilled for for all the games we make is "Playtesting" If you play it and you have a collection of others that play it and if there is enough there to fill out a form and ask questions you need to know where you are at. Depending on results is where your game is at and most of the time we are asked go get your friend or go get ur partner or get someone who has never played your game to play it and increase the pool until your game is at a stage where its good enough to follow up the next stage. What they should of done is increase from content creators to their own family and friends and relatives and pick random people in the community to test it. Get fresh eyes on it and get more details of where your game is at because at the end of the day play testing and feedback is where it is at and currently from the Early Access from the release it didn't have enough content for people to give it a fair chance or run correctly and it seems more like this was rushed out to start an Early Access release or the pool of play testing and feedback wasn't enough because if it was then it wouldn't of had the feedback it has received so far.
love your intros lmao. the game is clearly a UE5 demo, with a solid gameplay foundation. there are a LOT of missing basic features, and the map is a mile wide but an inch deep.
@@missletoadX well then they have bad taste in games. Once the gunplay is fixed I will enjoy it. I really wanted to like it but knew it would suck. Also the steam reviews prove your wrong.
I literally have a top spec pc 4090, 14900, 64gb ram. I played 4 games and it crashed every time and I lost all my kits. This did not upset me at all because I’m so excited about this game and what it will be when I can actually play it. Am I gutted a bit because I was really excited to play it, yes. But I am willing to have paid and wait until it works for my platform.
Let's be real, a big part of the negative initial reaction to this game is the in game advantages that the more expensive versions give you, and rightfully so
back in the day indie devs would let us poors with supercomputers sign up for closed alphas/betas at their website. 2hours. a day. a weekend. filled out a lil questionnaire about my hardware and how it ran. waaait a min you still can do thaaaaaaaat. did grayzone do that? i'm confused...
“Early access trash” is the most contradicting thing I’ve heard. It’s early access, meaning completely unfinished. If you think this is a dogshit early access game did you even play Tarkov or the day before or any other extraction shooter game that’s been released in early access? Sounds like your just riding Nikita’s meat
@@brendougbake4958 Oh yea I'm sure the cashgrab mobile game devs are gonna support the game for years to come. If something is trash now but will turn into diamond later, isn't it still trash right now? It's not contradictory if you have iq over 50
So im not to familiar with this game even tho you jave covered it bit is this goong to come to consoles or no? I have a friend who doesnt have the want to get a pc and i feel like we could have a good time on this game
I mean can we agree that in terms of pure gunplay and environment feels top notch on the rare moments that we aren't dealing with server lag, performance, and frequent bugs
Saying that this is because of people complaining they didn't play it is pretty speculatory, especially when the equally possible reason is that they wanted to capitalize on the Tarkov drama and put it out their to get the Tarkov players onto their game despite the two games being as far away as possible while being the same genre. The game shouldn't have put up for sale, and it's on them that they put it up for sale. When you put it up for sale you're by proxy saying that you feel your game is good enough for the public to play, so the backlash they're getting isn't surprising
The launch timing had nothing to do with Tarkov. They planned to launch after the creator play test months ago. And that’s the whole point of early access. The devs are on top of fixes and optimizations.
BigFry got pissed people shit on the content creators who were obviously being paid to review the game months before release and overhype it. I enjoyed the game but its not the most realistic game ever (by a long shot), tarkov killer (both of those 2 were youtube thumbnails from totally not paid reviewers), or relatively functional
@@the32honda Where exactly did they say they had plans for a launch date, I never saw any launch dates released anywhere, and I don't think they've done any optimizations so far, the day one patch was to fix a few things like heads being invisible (which is still not fixed) and character wipes (to circumvent the user unfriendly faction system so people could play with their friends)
@@Strekki Information was sent out to content creators. EA was always planned to go live immediately following the play test. They have over 100 items they’re addressing in with hot fixes and first patch. Some of the bugs they can’t possibly know about until it goes live and they’ve been very open and responsive to both criticism and suggestions. Not many dev teams are.
The devs released it because tarkov is crapping the bed with their customer service, and the community said it looked like it was probably ready before release, and as somebody running a highly antiquated system with a 1500x Ryzen 5 and an RX570 8gb the game is playable on 1080p although my friends are pretty much right at 28 to 30 FPS all the time.
If so many were reporting problems running this game on mid to high settings, then why the fuck launch it? Early access means playable but missing features. Not saying to form an angry mob over it, but I'm not looking the other way either.
I have a mid pc that was mid-high end 2 years ago. Even on low settings, my whole pc crashed twice which has NEVER happened. On the helo rides I was getting 7 FPS.
I've had similar issues, crashes taking all my gear too so I'm left having to knife and loot for gear before I can get back to missions!. What I have been able to play has been good and I see the potential. I've also been running it at lower res, windowed and running 30-60 fps with an i3 12100f 16gb ram and a gtx1660super
6700xt paired with 5800x3d. Mid by all metrics, and I was at 60fps 1440p High settings the entire time. Terrible server lag and constant crashes were the only issues I expierenced. Sometimes the missing head bug. All in all, was a good hour that I played! Everyone's gear acts different and the game is not optimized yet. Hopefully this works itself out!
I'm honestly not disappointed at all, in fact. I think it's good to release it this early, I think it gives them more incentive to keep patching and updating the game TBH.
Not a ton of time in this game about 5 hours, but I am super happy with it especially for it being in early access. Its already running better than it was on launch day. Maybe I'm lucky but I'm getting like 90 fps on my 3070 on high graphics settings which I honestly wasn't expecting. I'm a fan of early access, its fun getting in on the ground floor and getting excited about patches and updates. The game looks amazing and for 30 bucks I am more than happy with my experience thus far. thanks for the video fryman
The game is really fun, and i enjoyed playing it for a while, but in it's current state there is really nothing to keep me playing. Really hoping the game grows as time goes.
I've always found it weird how the general public will review bomb a game like this if it doesn't release perfectly, but will turn around and defend a AAA title for being a buggy unplayable mess like their lives depend on it
Just wanna say- was running 90fps with my 2060 super. FSR quality, frame gen on, 1080p. Was fine but still needs work for sure. Day 1 servers were dogshit, day 2 was fine.
i agree with you fry i got the game from a friend and it runs pretty bad but i was giddy its a great base but oh boy does it need some work in optimization and performance
They didn't release early because people complained about creators getting access. You said 100 times the last few streams that Q1 was always the plan, even before the playtest.
He also said multiple times that they should have waited 6 months, the irony is the people that demanded this game release are now complaining they can't play because it is unstable.
@@BigfryTV And it gave the devs more honest feedback than if they had given the game to streamers only. People judge things differently and in a more forgiving light if they get them for free.
My first impressions are good and I know that this is an early release so bugs are expected. I gladly bought the full game with all the addons as a way to support the developers to make this game great.
4 minutes in and I gotta say, massive W for calling out the jealousy filled, entitled content creators who plagued the forms saying that we got paid to share good things about GZW. If they were ACTUAL CREATORS they would know that if we got paid to say anything positive about the game we would have to disclose that as per the FTC. It's rage bait, low IQ, entitled, jealous rhetoric that's tailored to take away from the positives of this game in an attempt to discredit the devs. Massive W
Never knew about the rule w the ftc. Hypothetically speaking what could a developer offered creators to say good things without them having to disclose it ?
@@precisionhaze6594 almost virtually nothing. I've accepted game keys in exchange for payment as part of a sponsorship I did recently and I didn't have to report it as an ad. I said the game was fun and I enjoyed it because it was the truth. If it wasn't fun for me I would've said "nah I'm okay". In a situation like that I don't have to mark the video as a #ad. I also got a free key to Incursion Red River to review it, I didn't have to report it as an ad because I wasn't given the key in hopes to say something good about it, I was given the key to review the product. Much like GZW. Almost all of us didn't know we were gonna be able to keep the keys we were given for this game, that was a surprise for us.
Regardless of the issues. I had a blast playing it. Meet and made friends with players on my first run to the first village. Also if you watched the live chat with the devs they apologised for the issues and i felt they were really genuine and humble and i cant wait to see whats to come.
@@brawler5760 also big fry was saying the released early becusse of people complaining about not being able to play when streamers did. So what is it, this has been the plan or it was cause we complained. Not me I don’t even care it’s a decent game def not ready.
Missed the line completely. Devs need to stop bringing out Closed Alpha playtests just for streamers. Yes, it makes sense to give access to streamers for advertising purposes however you get situations like this. Where streamers communities see their favourite streamer enjoying a game and then beg for access. Seeing it run on the best rigs and then once it's out to the public, it's a shitshow. Next time, do a more open Alpha playtest and get a collection of data from all types of rigs.
Man it's sad to see people still don't know what an early access is. I bought Squad back in December 2016 when it was on greenlight. It was buggy, had like 5 maps and no vehicles so every single round started with everyone running for 15 minutes to the middle of the map to start fighting. I've been playing through every update, and it's been a blast the whole way because of the clan I joined through it. Being in a game like this, that has so much potential, this early is actually going to be a bit of a blessing. You'll be there through all the updates, you'll learn and adapt to all the mechanics as they arrive or are tweaked. Enjoy it!
See, when everything works as intended in grey zone, it is hands down one of the best shooters ive played in years. But jesus christ, the performance is absolutely atrocious on anything but the highest of high end rigs (Not to mention the known bug on lower end system where if you zoom into your optic in the heli, the game crashes). In my 5 hours of playtime, i've crashes AT LEAST once an hour, and i really dont have that bad of a rig (Ryzen 3900x, 3070 ti, NVME SSD, 32 gigs of ram, its damn near the exact recommended specifications from their steam page). The fact of the matter is, Its a great game WHEN IT WORKS, but its a consistent mess that hitches, stutters, and drops frames constantly, with all the settings set to the lowest with fsr ultra performance on. Maybe in a few weeks when the storm dies down, the game will be patched into an amazing, playable experience. But as it stands, i cant even recommend the game unless you have a super computer.
personally i didn't care that regular people didn't get to play the game. But tbf, you can't say this is because gamers asked to play the game. they asked to be able to test it like you guys did(for free). They didn't ask for them to release the game. They wanted a closed beta of sorts. not to pay to play a broken game.
I think if they did a few free public tests before launching to stress test the servers and fix some bugs that way then launch into early access. Sure it would of still had problems but they may have not had mostly negative reviews at first.... now it's mixed but I think they could of avoided that by doing a few free public playtests prior to launch.
I think the devs made the decision that was best for them. We don’t know what their funding looks like. I’m waiting a bit personally but very excited to try it eventually
I have a theory here (tin foil had on). You said that streamers told the developers that this game needed 6 months of polishing (which i highly agree with). I find it interesting that they decided to release this during the Tarkov drama and even promoting there game by trashing Tarkov with some tweets. I feel like they know very well that there game is not ready, but found a golden opportunity to get more sales and not wait for the game to be actually ready for release. As much as now hate Tarkov for the scummy behavior they did, I feel like this game might fall in a similar trap in the future. Hopefully, im wrong. It also sucks to see them doing the exact "P2W" practice that other people complain about with tarkov (bigger stashes/secure comtainer, better starting equipment, etc) with the higher editions *just like Tarkov). Maybe this game will be super successful and will bounce back from this mess with performance and lack of content. Game has great prospect, but the similar selling practices with Tarkov makes me kinda worried.
I understand it's early access, but I have the glitch where I have no head, no secure container, and no gear or money in my stash so I essentially can't play the game til they fix it. Just sucks to not be able to play on a day off.
@@tristanwinkley6929 sadly the patch didn't work for most and the glitch is still ongoing and they are still working on it. (happens to mostly people who upgraded to supporter edition)
I'm absolutely loving it, I am at 40hours or so and as of right now I have hardly had any problems! Pluse look at how the devil are handling the launch I think they are killing it with the transparency and updates. They hlare on it . Thabk you for the videos and content man love it!
There is a difference between opening the flood gates with an open beta and EA. One is free and let's people give an honest opinion as there is no monetary attachment factor. The other you are forced to buy in and when doing so it is expected that the game is at least in a playable state and decently optimized. I would agree with your stance IF this was an open beta.
I'm one of those with no issues luckily. I'm running a full AMD Setup tho and don't even need FSR and getting 130+ in high. What i saw was that seemingly lots of folks with Intel CPU's mixed with Nvidia GPU's have issues. Sad that it doesn't work that well for them for sure but the game itself is really fun.
I was having issues with my setup, 6800XT and 7700X and updating to the newest released drivers fixed really everything. Crashing, loading times, etc. What is your setup as thats absurd fps numbers for no FSR or frame gen.
@@leana339 not a ton better than my system, the 3D v cache, I genuinely am curious if its putting in work for this game since it's heavily CPU bound. Been wanting the 7800X3D but have no reason to with my current GPU
same deal with tarkov, I have an old but formerly top of the line intel CPU & I was able to get playable solid FPS (same as tarkov -- 50-85 avg, capped at 96 for 100hz g-sync monitor) by turning off hyperthreading in my bios, overclocking my ram to the max w/ a focus on minimizing latency + timings vs just raw speed, then overclocking my cpu to the max that still allows my ram overclock to be stable. Also, I have a 1080ti watercooled & overclocked to the max too. But yeah, I have 15+ years of manual overclocking experience, so I dont expect the avg gamer to be able to fully optimize their system's overclock like this -- modern BIOS auto-OC has taken these skills & made them obsolete in 99% of cases... it just happens that tarkov & GZW are in the 1% lol
Who are you content creators to decide for me whether the game is fun or not with the current state of development? Who are you to presume to decide whether the developers should have sold it now or not? I've already tested games when you couldn't even operate a PC and just because I'm not a "content creator" now, but have a regular job, I can't judge for myself? I hate this "creator" bs trend...! The developers have the opportunity to earn money and develop further, win win I'd say. The best example in history is "No man's Sky" for me, started mostly negative and is one of the best titles in gaming history now. Thats how a developer can be measured by
Bigfry you are totally correct. Too many people bitch about having cake, then bitch about eating it. I cannot believe this game has a negative review. I’m 100% for giving feedback, not liking a game, or giving a justified bad review. But, I’m really done with almost every game that releases people with minutes in the game leaving a negative review. The problem is most people will not go back to change their review when the issues are fixed, or they’ll leave an overall review for the game based on their immediate emotions
It's more like people bitched that only people like BigFry got to taste the cake batter and said "let it cook some more". But then the people finally got to taste that cake batter and complain that it's not cake.
They could have done a email blast to random players with closed beta to get more feedback along with the creators then use that data to determine should we wait another 6 months of development.
I got a 2080 TI, game runs fine at 60fps on medium settings. Problem I have is the server for my country is down so I have to play South East Asia server, and when you have the slightest amount of lag in the game it completely freezes up. Also have an issue with finding enemies anywhere beyond like 3m outside of my vision, because everything is blurry, but still a good game.
@@Savitzen I selected every country in PVE but only got into the game for like 5 minutes. I wish there was an offline mode. I have fibre optic broadband. I live in London. I have decent hardware too. I get into other games just fine. So its a bit frustrating.
if I pay for a game I expect it to work. It doesn't matter if it's an early access game or not. Early access is supposed to be for getting feedback and testing for hard to find bugs. You can't just sell a broken product for money and avoid all criticism by putting an early access label on it.
Lit up an AI with 20 rounds for them to stare at me. On top of this turns out I can't even play with my friends since we picked different factions and now need to wait at least 6 months to change that. Instant refund, bought Six days in Fallujah instead.
honestly if you thought you could play with different factions when the game is about pvp between the three factions then I don't know what to tell you buddy
Hold on just a minute. This early launch was GZW taking advantage of the Tarkov community imploding because of the unheard edition. You have some audacity blaming this rushed launch on gamers complaining about streamers getting access to the game (which I have no problem with). It blew my mind listening to you putting this on the shoulders of the general gaming community and painting GZW as some sort of unwilling victim to this launch.
I don't usually judge a game without playing it. But I watched chacotaco yesterday. He was literally 30ft away aiming right at the chest/neck/head area of his enemys and every shot missing
Weirdly enough, I’ve only had problems disconnecting from servers and lagging the f out. And only 1 bug with a weapon I dropped and couldn’t get back. The game feels great. But currently no fear gear, you can buy everything with vendors.
Its funny because during the playtest I was saying if the general public got access to the game, it was going to get review bombed simply because of the fact that A LOT (if not the majority) of players are going to have trouble running this game. And here we are today...
Yup you did Danny
The release is a tad too early imo. I'd be willing to wait a couple more months just so the game can be 100% baked n' ready for public consumption.
@@BigfryTVmy dude your takes are usually pretty spot on but what’s more likely do you think the game was released at this point because players were bitching for it to….or and IMO the more likely reason is that the studio saw Tarkovs massive fuck up and thought they could capitalize on the massive amount of players who now feel like tarkov isn’t an option. They definitely should have waited 6 months before releasing but they would have likely made way less money since the tarkov drama would have been forgotten at that point
"general public" I love hearing biases from elitist idiots.
This is a fundamental issue about releasing into early access with ass optimization.
You don't have to demand money for play testing, just saying.
People don't understand the difference between dogshit early access cash grab and actual ambitious projects with funding and promise
Devs can't launch games with poor optimizations like this one, no matter how ambitious the project is
There was no need to release it except to capitalize on Tarkov drama.
If it had funding and promise it didn’t need to release before it’s ready and with dogshit p2w pricing.
@@johnwicks4936 p2w pricing is a joke lmao, extra stash space isnt pay to win, you dont get an edge in literally anything besides being able to shove more random garbage in you ahh and leaving it there while you actually play, it literally doesnt effect gameplay whatsoever, and the 1 or two starting guns you get can be made with starting traders ATLEAST 10 times over with the strarting money you get
True but the thing is that’s the same thinking that got us to what we have today with BSG
What does big fry think of grayzone using a colored tape system that players can wear on there arms, legs, and gear to show what faction they are in. As seen in Ukraine, it’s used to easily differentiate two sides, and I think it would be a great alternative to identifying teammates from enemies, rather then pulling up your map every 2 minutes.
Maybe we can even get other countries (USA) to fund the war too.
This seems like the most obvious fix. I say make it up to the player though if they want to wear them. If you want to go incognito, cool. But everyone might kill you, including teammates.
We have done it with shoulder armour in exfil. Worked great
Colour tape is not only seen in Ukraine you nitwit. It's not for marking "factions" either. Go back to call of duty the unrealistic arcade shooter equivalent to fortnite.
Damn a game released in Early Access is actually IN Early Access?? WTF HOW DID THIS HAPPEN!
Early access is basically "We are going to work on that game and change stuff about it". But as soon as the developer asks money for their game it should be treated same way as any other product on the market
The real surprise is Early access game often never become a real game and stay for ever in EA...streamer having i9 and 4090 paid by the simps are not there to help the casuals gamers... The devs know it and they use it
I want to play this game, I want to love it but the performance is really bad for me.. I will not refund this game and will wait for it to get better.
Based. I refunded it at first but my GPU got a driver update just for GZW lol. edit: so i rebought it and keep it now.
Same
That driver update is important for invidia users I updated that drive before launching the game because gzw said without updating driver will have tons of issues
@@garrolmace I did to!! Then I updated but still had issues so..
Same I'm not refunding
Early access was the biggest mistake for the gaming industrie.
It opened the door for scams, asset flips and any publisher has become way too comfortable releasing "finished" games that are barely in an early access stage.
Which leads to when a game is in early access people have way to high of expectations for it because early access is every game release these days.
BG3 was in early access for a long time and was incredibly buggy when it first came out, and now it's undeniably one of the best games ever made. Don't write off the whole thing just because the majority of EA stuff is crap.
@@negative6442 You are comparing a mobile games studio to Larian. Stop.
@@xPetyr If you think I'm comparing them then you didn't understand my point
@@xPetyrreading comprehension wasnt your thing in school, was it?
On other side when its full release they can just say well its full release we are not doing shit anymore its out now as it is and just continue making new game
They didn’t release it because of the complaints. They released it because of the timing. The needed the attention and people to buy in before they bought into another similar title
Thats a huge red herring hype happens.. comes and goes. If that was why they released it speaks volumes to the state of their financing
Totally not released to capitalize on the Tarkov drama. Promised.
Yeah its beyond obvious what Gray zone is trying to do, but this youtuber has a room temp IQ to be this confident about his opinion on the state of this game.
@@legischafing7Settle down Tarkov fan boy.
@@reaper_taco Says the one defending a release of a game that is no where close to being finished. You sir are the real fanboy here.
@@legischafing7Who said I was defending anything? Did you also forget the fact that it is an early release? Not a "Beta" like Tarkov has been since release. Even with it being a pre-release, it still has hours upon hours of enjoyment. Tarkov is dying with their greed.
@@reaper_taco Who gives a fuck about if it's early access, these companies need to stop releasing games in such a poor state. Stop comparing this game to Tarkov, this game is riddled with bugs and little content.
400k sales, just announced faction changes coming up…I’m here for the ride!!
What faction chqnges?
Love to hear it, this game is going to be insanely good.
@@BuckarooBanzai- you can't play with friends if they are in an other faction
@@BuckarooBanzai- No faction will change but in the near future there will be a wipe system where you can reset your character (I think) every month
@@jamesporter1653that isn't a change.. its always been the case that you can't group with an enemy faction. Unless you mean they're changing that so that you CAN. In which case, that makes 0 sense
I gave them $35 as I WANT this game to succeed. More independent studios need to gain traction and show AAA studios how it's done.
Everyone and my money being spent is MORE likely to up the process and give devs people funding to hire more people than to give wigs at a triple a publisher free money.
I don't care about tarkov or it's situation. I want this game to succeed.
Your English is…English
@@muke392 Whats wrong with it lol seems perfectly fine to me
This this right here is the problem people will rage about tripple a games then support this generic broken trash you think this is gonna show tarkov devs how it's done I have yet to see anything from this game that's not boring generic assetts the game is so bad it's a extraion shooter with no real loot LOL
But.. doesn't how they managed this give you pause? Why was it such a surprise to them? Perhaps they hadn't actually tested the game properly?
I miss the good ol day when games came out they were fully done
They didn't care about you then either, it was always how much money they could make but we've made it clear they could do less and less and we give more and more over the years.
@@GodlyKJ What? Who cares what a dev team thinks as long as they deliver the goods. This is just purity spiraling to gaslight the guy for pointing out how bad the game industry is. Like seriously, what motivated you to even write that?
@@peepopoo4387 Did you even read what he said? He literally stated the issue, ffs.
This was literally slapped with a giant label that says “EARLY ACCESS” if you bought this game thinking it was a fully done game you have a brain made of mulch.
@@traviswells6938 oh look, someone with a brain!
youre complaining about complaining they did what they did lmao
I think the reason the game got pushed out so early is because gray zone wanted to jump on that "tarkov is dying" train after the release of unhinged edition
Oh 100% One of the first reviews I saw on launch day said: "At least it isn't $250" XD
I think so to
Agreed they should have gave it more development time… Problem is that doing this could ruin them and make them give up and the hope is they make it a better more solid game but people are vicious and don’t hold back it’s I better like it now or I’m not playing again
Yeah idk why he’s trying blame the 1% of people that were complaining about streamers having access
Couldn't be, steam requires you to submit the finished game build AT LEAST 2 weeks in advance of launching. Likely months ahead since there is a back and forth process
I would agree with you bigfry, except weve seen titles such as battlebit remastered release countless, limited playtests to the community and still released a good product on launch. Its not entitlement, its expecting a working product upon early access release.
What, you expect a WORKING game for $35? How can you be so entitled?
So two things, those were "limited" playtests. And they didn't work perfect out of the gate. Second, the fucking game hasn't launched yet. Expecting a working title upon early access is the definition of entitlement. How do you not see the contradiction in your own statements?
@@rabidkangar00 this is exactly what i have been saying about this. These are the games experts program masters of the universe who know beyond a shadow of a doubt due to there expertise in all things games that this should be a complete polished product at early access. I mean really mad finger games should have hired these people and promoted all of them to top level executive positions. Anyways the game has a great foundation and will be something special in the future.
@rabidkangar00 it's not though. The point of limited playtests is to stress test the game. If three guys could do it and do it for free(the big thing) gray zone has no excuse. It's especially considering the fact this is a $40 early access title that basically does nothing really new besides satiate the tactical shooter player base.
Not to mention, this isn't the first time bigfry has come out like this to defend a crappy launch. When battlefield 2042 was coming out, him and the other youtubers said "its a beta, stop being entitled" when there was clear evidence the game was not ready to launch at all. Then, when the game came out at launch and we were proven right, bigfry basically came out and said "sorry guys, but its not my fault I hyped this game up and it came out like this. Cut us youtubers some slack". He's basically pulling the same shit here as he did nearly 3 years ago.
Point is, we aren't entitled, the youtubers and devs are. We consumers are the reason why they are able to do what they love, and as much as the gaming community can be toxic at times, this is not one of those times.
@@tylerjames3488 What? LMAO yes we expect a working game.
I agree with you on most of your videos but you trying to save the devs by saying that they released the game because were complaining that streamers got access is just dead wrong. The majority of people who bought this game were normal gamers that saw the hype on RUclips and tiktok and they bought it and couldn’t run it. People who complained about streamers getting access is probably 1% of the total buyers. They released the game cause of the TikTok hype.
If the devs truly did release the game because a couple people felt some time of way that streamers got access then the devs deserve the hate cause that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
They released a game that doesn’t work. Most people who buy games don’t look at it as an alpha build or a work in progress.
They see the hyped. They see the gameplay. They see it’s available to purchase with money then they see it doesn’t work and it gets negative reviews. Idk why your trying to save the devs here.
It shouldn’t have been made available to public at all in this state and blaming a couple complainers is a pretty low excuse
"Most people who buy games don’t look at it as an alpha build or a work in progress. " -- So people ignore the giant EARLY ACCESS stated in the title and sale page, yet you place the blame on the devs? Entitled af.
Early Access is not an excuse to bring out totally unplayable sh.. !!! And for most people it is not playable !!! Get your Head out of BigFrys Backend and start accepting Reality !!!!!
@@JustMe-cs4wc that’s exactly what I’m saying so what are you talking about
@@michaelsilvers1260 that’s exactly what I’m saying. Big fry even said it in the video if you watched it😂
@@JustMe-cs4wc this comment section needs more of this!
Its insane how people cry about this when tarkov every time it wipes isnt playable for a week but they still played and didnt bitch
Tarkov players are a different breed, they spend 150 dosh on a 'special edition', you think they'll have any sense?
Tarkov players don't bitch? You sure about that?
EFT is a game which they have played and know they enjoy so they're willing to forgive issues like that, GZW is unproven so there's going to be people who are less forgiving of the issues that the game has.
what are you talking about.... everyone is complaining about the Tarbob performance.
@@OrionDawn15 i bought edge of darkness 6 years ago and have played every year since (stopping late 2023). if you ask me the true chumps are the ones spending 80 for cod, playing 3 months and then stopping until the next cod is released, with the amount i paid (basically 2 triple A titles) i got WELL over enough gameplay to justify that purchase. yeah i got fked over but to me iv already gotten my moneys worth, so it doesnt really hurt that bad to let nikita burn by his lonesome
It's hard for people who don't pay attention to the industry to tell the difference between a low-effort cash grab and an incredibly ambitious and promising project in an early state. I was absolutely flamed for covering this game early on; called a shill, paid sponsorship, what have you; and I understand why. But I do hope that now that the game is public, people can see and interact with Madfinger in the way I have over the past months and understand why this game, and team, are different. Hoping for the best for them!
I can see the passion they have for the game in how optimized it is.
@@Zetslev You do realize that optimization is the last thing you do, right?
Otherwise you gotta do it over and over again every time you change something.
That's what fascinates me the most about Early Access - people that expect a game that's not early access.
I’m a big fan of your videos
Say it louder for those in the back.
@@Unknown_Genius sounds like what the Star Citizen community is saying to cope that the game still has not left alpha for 10 years...
One thing I learned is no matter how great everything is running and setup nothing is truly ready for a massive influx of players with PCs that are below minimum specs, 2 year old GPU drivers, i9 - 1660 combo. The list goes on and on either way fun watching it from the other side and many awesome fixes are on the way 💪
I think you have a unique opportunity to look from both perspectives. Happy for you, bud.
I have a PC with specs above the minimum requirement but cannot get above 60 FPS, even with all the settings on the lowest possible options plus FSR and framegen on. I have mates with crazy pc rigs, barely getting 100 FPS with low settings and FSR/framegen on. It's just not well optimized and people have rightly wrote negative reviews on the subject. As you said, many fixes are indeed on the way and I can only hope it becomes more playable for me in the near future.
Game runs great on my 1080 lmao.
I get the points but in my opinion "Early Access" shouldn't even really be a thing. It has been a system abused so many times by so many developers so I sort of get the opposing side's point. Why can't developers just actually finish a product for once and get it to the standards it was supposed to be THEN release it and do some post-launch updates to it if need be. Developers are so quick to just chuck out unfinished products to make some cash then either run away or never really finish it. Or people play the Early Access so much by the time full release comes out they are bored and don't care about it anymore because the next big thing is out.
Edit:
Looking into these developers, "Madfinger Games" are originally devs of popular mobile games, now going for a project this big. If that doesn't ring a bell I don't know what does.
Because money, turns out making a game costs it, a lot of it. At some point developers realise they have a significant work load and are running out of capital, releasing an EA game allows them to continue and further development than only using your intitial capital. Also Publishers will grant them funding, but at a point demand a return, so they force games onto the market to start the revenue stream.
@@several. But see that is the exact issue going back to my point. There was a time where we actually got finished product with barely any issues (either devs got crowd funded, budget was calculated accordingly to the needs of the game sometimes, or there was some solid foundation made before the development cycle ever happened. In short it is called "having a plan".). This has become an unhealthy norm for the industry and you need to understand why people get somewhat pissed off, real easily.
@@lilmess3816 Because games are becoming exponentially more complicated due to consumer demand, with more polish, more features, better graphics. Yet games have only declined in price adjusted for inflation.
It's taking more and more capital to make a "video game" , take mortal lords for example, that's practically a complete game (Still EA) and it took the single dev 6 years.
@@several. If companies stopped hiring new staff to replace their burnt out staff they might not have to re-learn how their entire game engine, API and set of tools work every time they start a new game project.
when AAA publishers force their devs to basically turn AAA games into early access projects, AA and indie titles will follow with even less content and production value. There are a faint number of indie games which are really valuable and amazing projects, but most will get squeezed between AAA and the ground by the constantly changing demand and pressure
the problem here is ..... if its not optimised thats fine... but do not.... i repeat....DO NOT !!!! put up RECOMMENDED SPECS, that do not even get consistent 60 FPS native....Just say " its unoptimised - minimum specs are RTX 40 series"....
Lower the system requirements AFTER optimisation OR if you want to have people test lower end hardware run a FREE beta..
There are people who paid money, who are way above minimum specs and cannot really play. Thats is just false advertising luring people in to buy and has nothing to do with early access.
Would you buy a car that does not run with the fuel thats recommended and let the developer get away with "we will introduce new gasoline 5 months in the future - guess you have to wait" of course not
Tbf i think steam requires you to be specific
Honestly, it should've been an open playtest, not a launch to early access simple as that imo. It needed more time, first impressions matter more than the devs seem to realize. It really looks like they wanted to capitalize off of the tarkov drama even if that wasn't the case.
They would have had to submit this to steam at least weeks in advance. On top of that EVERYONE interested in this game knew it's current state. How can you knowingly buy something and then get mad at it for being what you knew it was?
@@rabidkangar00 I disagree, not everyone knew because the only people who had access are people with the best computers. Once again open playtest would’ve helped with this, enabling people with worse pcs to test their hardware before spending money. A large percentage of people bought the game and can’t run it, pretty obvious why they are mad tbh. I don’t know if the first part you said is true, but I also don’t actually believe the Tarkov drama is the main reason they released. They would have to have extremely poor judgement for that.
@@rabidkangar00 I was somewhat interested in this game cuz a streamer I watch hyped it up I almost pre-ordered it as well but would've had 0 idea about performance since most gameplay saw was people staring at grass looking for content
IL be honest I don't think a playtest would've done any good for the game at its core of you get passed the bugs the game truly does not have any real content this feels like one of those proof of concept projects
Not at all. The image was carefully curated. Big enough red flag. I always say it.. if devs arent willing to public playtest.. don't buy it @@rabidkangar00
The reviews unjustified the experience I am having with the game. This game run and play better than tarkov day 1 early access release. The game has a great foundation to build upon. With enough time, support and dev competency it could become a good game.
I miss the old "here's the finished product, thank you for your money" days. After all we've been through this so many times in a last decade that EA shouldn't be a thing at this point. But money is a helluva drug.
EA is used mainly for crowdsourcing money to fund the project. Most actual crowd sourced projects end up being scams so its either or at this point. You either choose to support the project with your wallet or you dont. These indie dev studios have an uphill battle from the start especially projects like this one where are many different mechanics and nuance to the game. Like ive said before im impressed with the amount of polish they actually have at this point in development.
An d 90% of the games wouldn't exist at all. Just don't ever buy early access games, its that easy, it is very easy.
Coming from dayz, squad, tarkov, star citizen, this game had an INCREDIBLE launch. I say that as someone who bought the supporter pack and my whole locker is bugged. Who cares? It’s early access and I’m absolutely loving it.
Star citizen works better for me than this game, which is crazy.
@@mixedvibes1879 it’s day two it’ll get better
@@mixedvibes1879 And how long has Star Citizen been in development for? Oh yeah let's compare the game that just released into EA less than a week ago to one that has been in EA for a decade at this point.
@@killianlile173 This is very true. However, that game is on a much larger scale with a lot more going on.
@@mixedvibes1879 Ok and you're still comparing 10 years of development to less than a week? Plus Star Citizen has had millions of dollars invested into it. They have over 600 devs working on it. That's AAA studio size.
Testing is not early access. You do beta or alpha test, without a price.
Unless the developer need funding, then early access is not the play.
You are not comparing apples to apples in this video.
Although I agree on the entitled part, but I don't really see it on this one.
It's got some early access bugs. It's expected in the first week.
They did need money. They kinda gave it away in Livestream they didn't have enough to pay for all the servers. One of the reasons they did EA when they did. On top of the main ones.
It's absolutely wild to me that a game would come out in Early Access for $35.99 that's just way too high for early access.........
Brokey
@@sunbrother735 not at all the problem, but I see you pocket watchin........
i agree, but from the devs perspective the revenue they get validates all they've invested up till now, and is also their only source of revenue until something like cosmetics are added. You're always free to wait until the game is developed more anyway.
Minus the crashing, I've been having a blast running with random people.
I played for three hours with my buddy yesterday afternoon. Ran awesome. No issues. We hopped back on right around the hot fix and everything went to shit lol. We still spent the next four hours playing and dealing with the issues. Still fun as game with a lot of potential
They should have done a public beta... that would have fixed all these problems. They wanted the money upfront though, and the timing of Tarkov shooting itself was the perfect opportunity to cash out. Not saying they're going to abandon the game, but they definitely capitalized on the emotional community
Exactly. If you want the money, you take the hit.
@@TheButterAnvil It's crazy how shameless of a move this is
You're exactly the type of person Bigfry is talking about.
@@jeanmarcwatson I honestly don't play games anymore, so I'm not
The lead dev quit. Game is going downhill.
I feel like things are going pretty well for GZW. Maybe I just remember Dead Matter's launch and compare all others against that... Good old *first time* meme.
I absolutely agree with you on this. It's getting harder than ever for indie devs to make their way forward. I'm really excited for this amazing game that they have made, it finally fills a hole that I've had for a long time. I was surprised about them releasing this game so quickly after the test as I did think they would take some time to iron out some things before early access release, but now I can see why they did so.
You're talking about a company that doesn't seem to understand what a close beta is. You mentioned that people wanted real testing and not just content creators. However, if you search for the term "close beta", it's defined as "A limited release of a product to a select group of people for testing and feedback."
Moreover, content creators testing the game doesn't qualify as a close beta because this game is meant to be played with a lot of players (48 in total, 16 per faction).
Therefore, Madfinger Games decided to release a game that requires payment to test and provide feedback. This raises the question: what are close beta and open beta for?
I learned my lesson with BSG and Tarkov: no paying for early access/alpha/beta testing. I'll wait until a fully polished game is released and there is a ton of gameplay footage showing a non-buggy mess.
Yup, I usually only buy early access games when they appeal a ton to me (and I saw gameplay - which happens rarely enough for the sole reason that I don't want it to be an entirely different game to what I bought upon launch) or when I know that they got mod support and are high on my list (like Incursion Red River, even tho it's not yet officially integrated people already started making smaller ones).
Wanted to get GZW, but then realized that if I want to play it coop, I'm locked out of friendly fire damage, so it's essentially just running around with your friends and no one gotta pay attention to not hit their team mates, which takes away too much for me (and the friends I usually play with) to invest into a not yet finished product.
See you in 7+ years.
Indie Studio - This will be buggy for 5 years, and then the engine will age badly.
@@MrSpronkets That's not a problem. There is literally hundreds of games to play right now. AAA crowd has small brains, it seems like they have RAM to remember only one or two games existing and then they crash.
Imagine you invest money into a game and aren’t able to give constructive criticism 😂😂😂buddy made a video about people complaining that a PRODUCT THEY BOUGHT DOES NOT WORK AS INTENDED LIVE IN REALITY
Interestingly this game was released shortly after Unheard edition came out.
first video I've watched on this channel and very happy I stopped by, good shit! 🍻
Great video. Love to see the honesty. I picked up the game and you gained a sub because of it.
I understand the Ealy Access point, but the game is selling for a full price of $35. That's my issue with that excuse.
Full price? What is Full price to you?
@@BigfryTV So the game's price is going to go up over time? early access that is free seems more of a good excuse to dismiss issues, but when you selling your product for a full price, they can definitely be a reason to not want to buy it or accept "early access" as an excuse to not have the game you payed for run properly.
@@Relaxed008 isn't a full priced game like $70 these days lol
@@dylanhaugen7875 even with this argument, my point is people are spending $35 for a game to work at least as expected despite it being early access, I'm not saying the game cant be a work in progress, but at least should run fine on more than good enough PCs and servers making it unplayable at times.
Then refund it 😂😂😂@@Relaxed008
content creators GOT access to the game the rest of us have PAID for a product and the product should be as advertised. People would be much more understanding if it was a free beta instead of a paid product. Asking to get what you paid for is not entitlement or being unreasonable in any way
The games so fun when it works but I’ve been brute forcing it with some of the best hardware available and still get pretty heavy frame issues every now and then so I can only imagine what happens for a average gaming pc around the 500-700 dollar mark
While in school for my video game diploma and bachelor the one thing we are always drilled for for all the games we make is "Playtesting" If you play it and you have a collection of others that play it and if there is enough there to fill out a form and ask questions you need to know where you are at. Depending on results is where your game is at and most of the time we are asked go get your friend or go get ur partner or get someone who has never played your game to play it and increase the pool until your game is at a stage where its good enough to follow up the next stage.
What they should of done is increase from content creators to their own family and friends and relatives and pick random people in the community to test it. Get fresh eyes on it and get more details of where your game is at because at the end of the day play testing and feedback is where it is at and currently from the Early Access from the release it didn't have enough content for people to give it a fair chance or run correctly and it seems more like this was rushed out to start an Early Access release or the pool of play testing and feedback wasn't enough because if it was then it wouldn't of had the feedback it has received so far.
im sure they released it when they did to take advantage of the whole tarkov unheard edition BS.
love your intros lmao. the game is clearly a UE5 demo, with a solid gameplay foundation. there are a LOT of missing basic features, and the map is a mile wide but an inch deep.
Solid gameplay is funny. The gameplay sucked.
@@king124kineyou’re the first person I’ve seen say that it was bad
@@king124kine all the homies are having fun lmao
@@missletoadX well then they have bad taste in games. Once the gunplay is fixed I will enjoy it. I really wanted to like it but knew it would suck. Also the steam reviews prove your wrong.
@@missletoadXare they tho? It’s delusion.
I literally have a top spec pc 4090, 14900, 64gb ram. I played 4 games and it crashed every time and I lost all my kits. This did not upset me at all because I’m so excited about this game and what it will be when I can actually play it. Am I gutted a bit because I was really excited to play it, yes. But I am willing to have paid and wait until it works for my platform.
Let's be real, a big part of the negative initial reaction to this game is the in game advantages that the more expensive versions give you, and rightfully so
back in the day indie devs would let us poors with supercomputers sign up for closed alphas/betas at their website. 2hours. a day. a weekend. filled out a lil questionnaire about my hardware and how it ran. waaait a min you still can do thaaaaaaaat. did grayzone do that? i'm confused...
What the fuck did i just read
Suddenly everyone is onboard with supporting early access trash when it's a """competitor""" to a game they don't like
“Early access trash” is the most contradicting thing I’ve heard. It’s early access, meaning completely unfinished. If you think this is a dogshit early access game did you even play Tarkov or the day before or any other extraction shooter game that’s been released in early access? Sounds like your just riding Nikita’s meat
@@brendougbake4958 Oh yea I'm sure the cashgrab mobile game devs are gonna support the game for years to come. If something is trash now but will turn into diamond later, isn't it still trash right now? It's not contradictory if you have iq over 50
So im not to familiar with this game even tho you jave covered it bit is this goong to come to consoles or no? I have a friend who doesnt have the want to get a pc and i feel like we could have a good time on this game
I mean can we agree that in terms of pure gunplay and environment feels top notch on the rare moments that we aren't dealing with server lag, performance, and frequent bugs
Saying that this is because of people complaining they didn't play it is pretty speculatory, especially when the equally possible reason is that they wanted to capitalize on the Tarkov drama and put it out their to get the Tarkov players onto their game despite the two games being as far away as possible while being the same genre. The game shouldn't have put up for sale, and it's on them that they put it up for sale. When you put it up for sale you're by proxy saying that you feel your game is good enough for the public to play, so the backlash they're getting isn't surprising
He just seems butthurt people said mean things about “content creators” lol
The launch timing had nothing to do with Tarkov. They planned to launch after the creator play test months ago. And that’s the whole point of early access. The devs are on top of fixes and optimizations.
BigFry got pissed people shit on the content creators who were obviously being paid to review the game months before release and overhype it. I enjoyed the game but its not the most realistic game ever (by a long shot), tarkov killer (both of those 2 were youtube thumbnails from totally not paid reviewers), or relatively functional
@@the32honda Where exactly did they say they had plans for a launch date, I never saw any launch dates released anywhere, and I don't think they've done any optimizations so far, the day one patch was to fix a few things like heads being invisible (which is still not fixed) and character wipes (to circumvent the user unfriendly faction system so people could play with their friends)
@@Strekki Information was sent out to content creators. EA was always planned to go live immediately following the play test. They have over 100 items they’re addressing in with hot fixes and first patch. Some of the bugs they can’t possibly know about until it goes live and they’ve been very open and responsive to both criticism and suggestions. Not many dev teams are.
The devs released it because tarkov is crapping the bed with their customer service, and the community said it looked like it was probably ready before release, and as somebody running a highly antiquated system with a 1500x Ryzen 5 and an RX570 8gb the game is playable on 1080p although my friends are pretty much right at 28 to 30 FPS all the time.
I was patiently waiting for this video lol. I'm gonna hold off on buying the game for now but I'm excited to see where it goes.
If so many were reporting problems running this game on mid to high settings, then why the fuck launch it? Early access means playable but missing features.
Not saying to form an angry mob over it, but I'm not looking the other way either.
Seems like they wanted to take advantage of the Tarkov dlc controversy.
I have a mid pc that was mid-high end 2 years ago. Even on low settings, my whole pc crashed twice which has NEVER happened. On the helo rides I was getting 7 FPS.
I've had similar issues, crashes taking all my gear too so I'm left having to knife and loot for gear before I can get back to missions!. What I have been able to play has been good and I see the potential. I've also been running it at lower res, windowed and running 30-60 fps with an i3 12100f 16gb ram and a gtx1660super
6700xt paired with 5800x3d. Mid by all metrics, and I was at 60fps 1440p High settings the entire time. Terrible server lag and constant crashes were the only issues I expierenced. Sometimes the missing head bug. All in all, was a good hour that I played! Everyone's gear acts different and the game is not optimized yet. Hopefully this works itself out!
Ryzen 5600/i5 11400 with at least 3070ti?
Wait.. what?! The game itself crashed your PC? Not just crashes the process? Holy crap that is bad lmao
I'm honestly not disappointed at all, in fact. I think it's good to release it this early, I think it gives them more incentive to keep patching and updating the game TBH.
Not a ton of time in this game about 5 hours, but I am super happy with it especially for it being in early access. Its already running better than it was on launch day. Maybe I'm lucky but I'm getting like 90 fps on my 3070 on high graphics settings which I honestly wasn't expecting. I'm a fan of early access, its fun getting in on the ground floor and getting excited about patches and updates. The game looks amazing and for 30 bucks I am more than happy with my experience thus far. thanks for the video fryman
The game is really fun, and i enjoyed playing it for a while, but in it's current state there is really nothing to keep me playing.
Really hoping the game grows as time goes.
I agree the content feels very lacklustre with what feels like very slow progression.
@@mixedvibes1879 cry about it
Not even a full game yet
I've always found it weird how the general public will review bomb a game like this if it doesn't release perfectly, but will turn around and defend a AAA title for being a buggy unplayable mess like their lives depend on it
Dude for real! The hypocrisy is insane.
Nonsense. AAA get enough shit too.
It's just different idiots. What's crazy to me is how many people don't understand how brainless the vast majority of people are online.
Or even worse, they’ll just greenlight indie projects like Direct Contact and defend it to the very end…
Who knows. Maybe theyre paid by AAA ceos under the table?
The AI is braindead.... They focused on PVE yet it's lacking heavily.
Just wanna say- was running 90fps with my 2060 super.
FSR quality, frame gen on, 1080p.
Was fine but still needs work for sure.
Day 1 servers were dogshit, day 2 was fine.
i agree with you fry i got the game from a friend and it runs pretty bad but i was giddy its a great base but oh boy does it need some work in optimization and performance
also i think its crazy how entitled people are these days
They didn't release early because people complained about creators getting access. You said 100 times the last few streams that Q1 was always the plan, even before the playtest.
When I said “They Obliged” it was more of a “You got what you wanted”
He also said multiple times that they should have waited 6 months, the irony is the people that demanded this game release are now complaining they can't play because it is unstable.
@@BigfryTV
And it gave the devs more honest feedback than if they had given the game to streamers only.
People judge things differently and in a more forgiving light if they get them for free.
My first impressions are good and I know that this is an early release so bugs are expected. I gladly bought the full game with all the addons as a way to support the developers to make this game great.
It’s a 35 dollar base price for a EA game, as a EA it’s actually great seeming how it’s a “pre”alpha
a lot of folks with GTX1060's finally coming to the conclusion they need to upgrade and are angry about it.
My 7900xtx/7800x3d got 40fps on epic 4k 🤣
I need go high details and fsr quality for 60+...
@@marcinkarpiuk7797 there's something wrong with your PC or you are lying, with the best setting on exactly the same rig I'm at 120+
@@king_kiff3969 u have frame gen on, i also get that much with that but i dont like using it cos input lag
@@king_kiff3969 turn frame generator off, fake frames - i also get 120+ with that but imput lag is annoying for me
@@marcinkarpiuk7797yeh bud your pc isn’t optimized lol I’m getting 140 plus on high in 4k with a 4090 and 14900k
4 minutes in and I gotta say, massive W for calling out the jealousy filled, entitled content creators who plagued the forms saying that we got paid to share good things about GZW.
If they were ACTUAL CREATORS they would know that if we got paid to say anything positive about the game we would have to disclose that as per the FTC. It's rage bait, low IQ, entitled, jealous rhetoric that's tailored to take away from the positives of this game in an attempt to discredit the devs.
Massive W
Never knew about the rule w the ftc. Hypothetically speaking what could a developer offered creators to say good things without them having to disclose it ?
@@precisionhaze6594 almost virtually nothing. I've accepted game keys in exchange for payment as part of a sponsorship I did recently and I didn't have to report it as an ad. I said the game was fun and I enjoyed it because it was the truth. If it wasn't fun for me I would've said "nah I'm okay". In a situation like that I don't have to mark the video as a #ad. I also got a free key to Incursion Red River to review it, I didn't have to report it as an ad because I wasn't given the key in hopes to say something good about it, I was given the key to review the product. Much like GZW.
Almost all of us didn't know we were gonna be able to keep the keys we were given for this game, that was a surprise for us.
@@RedBeardMortis gotcha. Thanks for the info haha
@@precisionhaze6594 yeah no worries fam!
So you guys get to make the RUclips ad revenue but other content creators dont?
They took advantage of the issues with escape from tarkov. They pulled 75% of escape from tarkov a player base. That’s how they got 400k players
Regardless of the issues. I had a blast playing it. Meet and made friends with players on my first run to the first village. Also if you watched the live chat with the devs they apologised for the issues and i felt they were really genuine and humble and i cant wait to see whats to come.
I think they released it early because the state of tarkov and taking advantage of that. Not because we complained. But sure
Thats already been disproven multiple times.
They already planned for this release ages ago my guy… yeah it’s pretty convenient, but not the whole reason they released it as is
@@brawler5760 they planed on this date? Funny they didn’t hype it for a couple weeks before just randomly learned 3 days before.
@@brawler5760 also big fry was saying the released early becusse of people complaining about not being able to play when streamers did. So what is it, this has been the plan or it was cause we complained. Not me I don’t even care it’s a decent game def not ready.
People are pucking inpatient, I swear 😂
You think the bad reviews are actually people that are upset about not getting a playtest key and not their actual opinion on the game? lol
They should of done multiple closed tests over the next 6 months to get it ready for steam. I am still keen to try it but it sucks it's gone this way.
You are actually such a solid youtuber. No bullshit just honest and speak the truth. Respect man keep it up.
Missed the line completely. Devs need to stop bringing out Closed Alpha playtests just for streamers. Yes, it makes sense to give access to streamers for advertising purposes however you get situations like this. Where streamers communities see their favourite streamer enjoying a game and then beg for access. Seeing it run on the best rigs and then once it's out to the public, it's a shitshow. Next time, do a more open Alpha playtest and get a collection of data from all types of rigs.
Fry, I think you and I actually agree on a lot more than you think...
i bought the game, played for about 12hours, delt with all these issues, and still went and got the supporter edition. Great video man!
Man it's sad to see people still don't know what an early access is. I bought Squad back in December 2016 when it was on greenlight. It was buggy, had like 5 maps and no vehicles so every single round started with everyone running for 15 minutes to the middle of the map to start fighting. I've been playing through every update, and it's been a blast the whole way because of the clan I joined through it. Being in a game like this, that has so much potential, this early is actually going to be a bit of a blessing. You'll be there through all the updates, you'll learn and adapt to all the mechanics as they arrive or are tweaked. Enjoy it!
See, when everything works as intended in grey zone, it is hands down one of the best shooters ive played in years. But jesus christ, the performance is absolutely atrocious on anything but the highest of high end rigs (Not to mention the known bug on lower end system where if you zoom into your optic in the heli, the game crashes). In my 5 hours of playtime, i've crashes AT LEAST once an hour, and i really dont have that bad of a rig (Ryzen 3900x, 3070 ti, NVME SSD, 32 gigs of ram, its damn near the exact recommended specifications from their steam page). The fact of the matter is, Its a great game WHEN IT WORKS, but its a consistent mess that hitches, stutters, and drops frames constantly, with all the settings set to the lowest with fsr ultra performance on. Maybe in a few weeks when the storm dies down, the game will be patched into an amazing, playable experience. But as it stands, i cant even recommend the game unless you have a super computer.
personally i didn't care that regular people didn't get to play the game. But tbf, you can't say this is because gamers asked to play the game. they asked to be able to test it like you guys did(for free). They didn't ask for them to release the game. They wanted a closed beta of sorts. not to pay to play a broken game.
I think if they did a few free public tests before launching to stress test the servers and fix some bugs that way then launch into early access. Sure it would of still had problems but they may have not had mostly negative reviews at first.... now it's mixed but I think they could of avoided that by doing a few free public playtests prior to launch.
I think the devs made the decision that was best for them. We don’t know what their funding looks like. I’m waiting a bit personally but very excited to try it eventually
I have a theory here (tin foil had on). You said that streamers told the developers that this game needed 6 months of polishing (which i highly agree with). I find it interesting that they decided to release this during the Tarkov drama and even promoting there game by trashing Tarkov with some tweets. I feel like they know very well that there game is not ready, but found a golden opportunity to get more sales and not wait for the game to be actually ready for release. As much as now hate Tarkov for the scummy behavior they did, I feel like this game might fall in a similar trap in the future. Hopefully, im wrong. It also sucks to see them doing the exact "P2W" practice that other people complain about with tarkov (bigger stashes/secure comtainer, better starting equipment, etc) with the higher editions *just like Tarkov). Maybe this game will be super successful and will bounce back from this mess with performance and lack of content. Game has great prospect, but the similar selling practices with Tarkov makes me kinda worried.
The game was already meant to be released a week after the playtests, it was just a massive stroke of luck that it coincided with the Tarkov drama
I understand it's early access, but I have the glitch where I have no head, no secure container, and no gear or money in my stash so I essentially can't play the game til they fix it. Just sucks to not be able to play on a day off.
You can, go and play a different game, but judging a game on it's condition into less than 24 hours of launch is crazy
they also put out a patch to fix this
@@tristanwinkley6929 and people are still having the issue lol
@@tristanwinkley6929 sadly the patch didn't work for most and the glitch is still ongoing and they are still working on it. (happens to mostly people who upgraded to supporter edition)
@@jintek619gaming9 well shit I have the support edition. makes me scared to play it now
Thanks for being a voice of reason here Fry. The sweats need to let these devs cook!
I'm absolutely loving it, I am at 40hours or so and as of right now I have hardly had any problems! Pluse look at how the devil are handling the launch I think they are killing it with the transparency and updates. They hlare on it . Thabk you for the videos and content man love it!
There is a difference between opening the flood gates with an open beta and EA. One is free and let's people give an honest opinion as there is no monetary attachment factor. The other you are forced to buy in and when doing so it is expected that the game is at least in a playable state and decently optimized.
I would agree with your stance IF this was an open beta.
I'm one of those with no issues luckily. I'm running a full AMD Setup tho and don't even need FSR and getting 130+ in high. What i saw was that seemingly lots of folks with Intel CPU's mixed with Nvidia GPU's have issues. Sad that it doesn't work that well for them for sure but the game itself is really fun.
I was having issues with my setup, 6800XT and 7700X and updating to the newest released drivers fixed really everything. Crashing, loading times, etc. What is your setup as thats absurd fps numbers for no FSR or frame gen.
i run a 7900 GRE with 32gb 6000Mhz Ram and a 7800x3d installed on an Nvme m.2@@AxTROUSRxMISSLE
@@leana339 not a ton better than my system, the 3D v cache, I genuinely am curious if its putting in work for this game since it's heavily CPU bound. Been wanting the 7800X3D but have no reason to with my current GPU
same deal with tarkov, I have an old but formerly top of the line intel CPU & I was able to get playable solid FPS (same as tarkov -- 50-85 avg, capped at 96 for 100hz g-sync monitor) by turning off hyperthreading in my bios, overclocking my ram to the max w/ a focus on minimizing latency + timings vs just raw speed, then overclocking my cpu to the max that still allows my ram overclock to be stable. Also, I have a 1080ti watercooled & overclocked to the max too.
But yeah, I have 15+ years of manual overclocking experience, so I dont expect the avg gamer to be able to fully optimize their system's overclock like this -- modern BIOS auto-OC has taken these skills & made them obsolete in 99% of cases... it just happens that tarkov & GZW are in the 1% lol
I’m on 4070ti and i9 12900k with hardware acceleration on and dlss on I can get 140-150 fps high with avg around 120-130 and lows on 70-80
Basically people with potato pc or internet connection shouldn't try early access game or even buying it early
I thought the jingling was part of the music until you pointed it out
Who are you content creators to decide for me whether the game is fun or not with the current state of development?
Who are you to presume to decide whether the developers should have sold it now or not?
I've already tested games when you couldn't even operate a PC and just because I'm not a "content creator" now, but have a regular job, I can't judge for myself?
I hate this "creator" bs trend...!
The developers have the opportunity to earn money and develop further, win win I'd say.
The best example in history is "No man's Sky" for me, started mostly negative and is one of the best titles in gaming history now.
Thats how a developer can be measured by
I feel like you completely missed the points I made in the video but go off king
Bigfry you are totally correct. Too many people bitch about having cake, then bitch about eating it. I cannot believe this game has a negative review. I’m 100% for giving feedback, not liking a game, or giving a justified bad review. But, I’m really done with almost every game that releases people with minutes in the game leaving a negative review.
The problem is most people will not go back to change their review when the issues are fixed, or they’ll leave an overall review for the game based on their immediate emotions
Yeah it’s childish af
It's more like people bitched that only people like BigFry got to taste the cake batter and said "let it cook some more". But then the people finally got to taste that cake batter and complain that it's not cake.
People buy game but game runs at 10 fps or doesn't even start = negative review. Is ur IQ that low that you don't understand this concept?
They could have done a email blast to random players with closed beta to get more feedback along with the creators then use that data to determine should we wait another 6 months of development.
I got a 2080 TI, game runs fine at 60fps on medium settings. Problem I have is the server for my country is down so I have to play South East Asia server, and when you have the slightest amount of lag in the game it completely freezes up. Also have an issue with finding enemies anywhere beyond like 3m outside of my vision, because everything is blurry, but still a good game.
Big fry, I have 7 hours on record with this game, but I have 6 minutes in the actual game.
IT HAS MASSIVE OPTIMISATION ISSUES!!
I have 9.6 hours in record, and 9 hours in the actual game ;)
@@Savitzen Im happy for you brother. Its just disappointing.
@eagleyezxgaming have you changed servers at all? It doesn't Auto detect the devs said so you have to manually select where you're located.
@@Savitzen I selected every country in PVE but only got into the game for like 5 minutes. I wish there was an offline mode.
I have fibre optic broadband. I live in London. I have decent hardware too. I get into other games just fine. So its a bit frustrating.
@@eagleyezxgamingsame issues with pvp servers? Could be a pve thing.
if I pay for a game I expect it to work. It doesn't matter if it's an early access game or not. Early access is supposed to be for getting feedback and testing for hard to find bugs. You can't just sell a broken product for money and avoid all criticism by putting an early access label on it.
is it just me or did a similar thing happen to another game you covered?
The 4080 fps bug is due to people missing out on motherboard updates.
Lit up an AI with 20 rounds for them to stare at me. On top of this turns out I can't even play with my friends since we picked different factions and now need to wait at least 6 months to change that. Instant refund, bought Six days in Fallujah instead.
The gunplay in this looks more like CoD or Battlefield instead of a tactical sim. PUBG has better recoil and ballistics than this.
honestly if you thought you could play with different factions when the game is about pvp between the three factions then I don't know what to tell you buddy
@@mrunitforge If the consumer wants something from the game and the game does not deliver, the consumer is right in requesting a refund.
Honestly valid issues. I'm glad they said they are working on fixing both soon.
@@nidungr3496 of course. I'm just saying that if you don't understand the basics of the game then maybe don't
Hold on just a minute. This early launch was GZW taking advantage of the Tarkov community imploding because of the unheard edition.
You have some audacity blaming this rushed launch on gamers complaining about streamers getting access to the game (which I have no problem with).
It blew my mind listening to you putting this on the shoulders of the general gaming community and painting GZW as some sort of unwilling victim to this launch.
I don't usually judge a game without playing it. But I watched chacotaco yesterday. He was literally 30ft away aiming right at the chest/neck/head area of his enemys and every shot missing
Weirdly enough, I’ve only had problems disconnecting from servers and lagging the f out. And only 1 bug with a weapon I dropped and couldn’t get back. The game feels great. But currently no fear gear, you can buy everything with vendors.
we said we wanted to test the game not that we wanted it to release
Then don’t buy it. Easy solution.
It ain't "released" it's in testing EA is a testing phase bozo
Eat ass dude. Watch the video
Bro doesn't know what Early Access means
@@negative6442 release as in release into early access