Something to consider is having a flashlight nearby or a wall mounted battery powered emergency light. I have a few small inexpensive battery powered motion detector lights in my garage to assist my path in the dark as I make my way to the garage light switch. Simple night light game changers.
Ive been thinkin of ways to make it easier on my parents and i think adam gave me the perfect solution. Im interested to see the videos on the charging of the batteries
These interactions remind me of when my buddy would show up at my old job and we'd be stuck working together (he's a plumber) it's always great when you actually get along with the guys you work with 😂
What a great system Adam. Now you actually have redundant backup systems because you still have the gasoline powered generator. It's also very nice that you have a great electrician to help you out when you need him. I expect that Doug will have the same system installed pretty soon. Stay safe, healthy and warm. Bill H from Cranberry Township
Adam the inverters are good , and way better than most small gasoline generators, but the power output from a good diesel generator with a real synchronous motor is just better than any inverter. I do like these battery systems, good options and great video by the way
First of all... loved the interaction and ball busting and jokes! 😆👍 Second, my wife and I have been talking about a whole house backup system and this video really makes me think solar/battery is definitely the way to go. Thank for all the pro/cons. Really informative video 😁👍
You might want to re-think that if you have a heat pump or AC system because his setup won't run those. Not enough current supply when it starts. You can install a "soft starter" in the heat pump or AC but it still requires a pretty good amount of current to start.
This system is capable of putting out 10,000 watts, same as my gas generator. Both of these would be more limited by the 30 amp cord which I think would bottle neck it down to 7,500 watts. Probably still enough to run the devices you are talking about. My wife ran a load of laundry and use our electric dryer and the bluettie powered it just fine
Youve made me think about making sure mom and dad are safe and have a good backup power... thank you!! I appreciate you both for the information and the comedic side of things!!! Thanks again
I just did something very similar with my 1 Blluetti AC500. I've got a new house, so i had the electrician wire the house so the Bluetti AC500 provided power as a UPS to my critical loads (freezers, frig, heater (gas), Energy Recovery Ventilator (ERV) and one bank of lights. It doesn't provide power to our well because it's only a 120v power source and the pump is 240v. I also have a 420w solar panel (the exact same one you have) which will provide solar power to the Bluetti. I also have the Bluetti receiving AC power from the grid while operating in a Grid on mode, and from my gas/propane generator when using the generator (and which will provide power to the well pump). I plan on using my Bluetti in my 5th wheel so I had the house wired so that when the Bluetti is gone (with me in my 5th wheel), and the power goes out, my neighbor (in my case my son) can plug in the generator and it will power the entire house. I had to have a Ul approved generator switch box installed so that my Bluetti can't provide power to the house when the house is in generator mode, but the generator can provide power to the Bluetti to charge it. As for the well pump I'm looking into a 120v pump that will draw water from my well and pressurize the pressure tank in my house. I've found a pump that can pump water 25' high, and my well is only 11' deep and has a 140 gallons per minute refresh rate. The well sits about 4' below the level of the house so the water is 15' deep (say 17' so the pump is in the water), so I'm confident this system would work if needed. You might want to see about having your generator hooked up so that when it's running it can charge your Bluetti. Pretty simple add on to the system you've already got and it would put you back on the Bluetti for main power faster than your solar panels could recharge them. Love your channel, thanks for sharing.
hi there interesting ,been looking into them also .like the solar input . but would want a daily return ,10 grand just waiting for an outage works on my mind , but if you could run 25% of you house on a daily bases then you would be getting a better return on you investment , .best to all john
Nice setup! One question though - are you limited to 30 amp output since it’s on the 30 amp breaker? With our all-electric house, we would eat up 30 amps pretty quickly. With our current generator system, I have to turn some breakers off so that the baseboard heat doesn’t kick on, or the water heater and water well at the same time, etc.
Not sure why they did 30A instead of 50A, maybe that's just what they already had. those AC500 units can output 5000W (each) continuous, so you could definitely pull 50A off it for a bit.
Mentioned at the end about the efficiency of the battery compared to the generator, but another comment on that is when generator is recharging the batteries it will be a constant load so your generator is going to be more efficient.
Hmmm...I read 2 days each backup power from the slide you posted.....which is assuming you only use 3kwh of the available 6kwh from each one. You have a total of 12kwh there, which would power our small house for about 1/2 a day. To charge back up with 800w of solar will take about 16-18 hours of good sun. It's a nice system, just not as much power as you'll likely need. One other point of using the gas genny to charge the batteries is that you're putting "dirty" (modified sine wave) power into the inverter and getting "clean" (pure sine wave) power out, so that's a bonus. Surprised you don't need to keep them plugged in to keep the batteries "topped up".
Hmmm....not from the link provided in the description. It says the AC500 requires the B300. The package with one AC500 and 2 B300's says it's 6144wh. The 5kw is what the inverter is capable of I think.....
@@earlzathome ooo , maybe I read it wrong. Hard to believe they think 12 kWh would last people 4 days... Has to be some kind of best case scenario with solar also recharging throughout the day
@@richarddabkowski2896 Yeah the wife and I are empty nesters, heat solely with wood, and we're still around 16-20kwh/day.....Electric everything though and we're home most of the day.
Great video and explanation with, the pros and cons. Redundancy is a good thing to have. Thanks Kyle and Adam, definitely want to hear your feedback after testing.. ❤
That's awesome! The only problem I see with the 4 days on, 4 days off scenario is that you may end up draining most of your battery then have an actual power outage and your batteries are not charged. Perhaps go to 50% battery, then switch back to grid power, and so on so there is always something left in case you need it. That way I'd think you still save the same amount of power over the course of a month but not risk being near 0% charge when an actual power outage occurs.
GOOOOOD MORNING EVERYONE!!….thanks for sharing. I’m very interested to see how your testing of the system…draining the batteries (how long)? Recharging the batteries (how long)? Solar panel charging (how long)? Have a day!
There are cold climate accessories available for the generacs that would work for others, they keep the mother oil and the starting battery warm. They do help. Blessings
Adam only looks taller then Kyle because he is clearly standing closer to the camera! This is a nice setup and I'd love something similar one day, well done gents! I'm also curious if your AC500 will recharge from generator because my Bluetti EB3A will not charge off generator power since it is "dirty" power.
Interesting. I’ve got a Bluetti AC200 and two AC50s and they charge fine off my gas generator. I run the gas generator during the day to power critical circuits and charge the batteries, which I use overnight to run the fridge and freezers.
With the front of your house facing south west, a great investment would be to place a 4kw system on the garage roof. You could also place 4 panels on the pitch facing south east to get the morning sun. I have PV here in the UK 🇬🇧 and it saves me a fortune. As power prices rise the payback is quicker.
@@RVBob my pure black panels look mighty impressive, 400l hot water tank sits at 90*c all day long. Hot tub powered during day light hours. Best investment I made. Oil fired boiler does not be used at all to heat water from mid March through to October. When I’m in my house I am not looking at my roof.
@@garethnelson6863 I wasn't being critical of their functionality. I just don't like their looks. Here in Pennsylvania where I live they are popping up all over the place. I had a guy come try to get me to put them on my roof. I would have had monthly payments for 20 years, and the electricity they made wouldn't be mine, it would belong to the utility which would credit my bill some for what they produced. It's a complete scam around here.
@@RVBob fair enough, but I bought my panels outright. I would not be without them. For you in PA you will get more sun than me in a wet and dull Northern Ireland
@@garethnelson6863 I might consider them if I was allowed to buy them and all the electricity they produced was mine. Here, it is just a scam. The utility wants ME to pay for them using my roof space to generate more electricity that I wouldn't even own. If I may ask, how much did you spend per panel? Installation costs? Battery storage costs?
4 days would impress me. Curious to see how it performs in the test. One benefit not mentioned about a whole house gas/propane generator is that it goes on and off automatically. If you are not home to push buttons, sump pumps stop working and furnaces don’t turn on.
Nice install Adam and Kyle, I would imagine that if you had Led Lights in the house and a 12V fridge, during an electrical power emergency, you could set up an alternative low power backup system that would extend your backup power availability. 😀👍👍👍
Adam nice video, don't get your hopes up too much. These batteries with an inverter kind of work, but if you are able to charge with your generator without something to stabilizing the power in, to charge the batteries. I have the AC300 with w B300 and been having problems with charging with some solar panels I had. I called Bluetti and they did not want to help. I have to reset the solar plug to get any kind of real solar charging, but after a while with the battery still down a lot it drops down to the lower watts until I reset the connector again. I hope they have fixed these problems on the newer units. Jim
Nice video guys. Just so you know the inverters do use power even without drawing wattage,there are some shortcomings there. Also sorry but you are not getting four days on those unless you are absolutely only using bare essentials. Maybe Kyle can answer this:Some people had problems when using the split fusion setup. When charging off the grid,some guys blew either the AC300 or the 240v machinery they were using. Apparently the AC300 has a floating neutral but once they grid charged while using the units a problem arose. Obviously the bluetti units cannot be grounded as they are in a plastic case. Somehow the neutral caused a problem once tied into the grid. I’m not an electrician so I don’t know but it sounded like there was no actual safe way to stay up to code installing these. I have a set and am still researching.
I am not electrical engineer by all means. But there is now way you can run a whole house for 4 days. I have the AC300 with 3 batteries and from my experience I consume 1 battery each day for just running my freezers, fridge, internet and electronics in my house. Does not include water well, stove or air conditioning. But if you put up 2400 watts of solar for the solar generator and add in the DC mini split with its solar panels I believe this would be a great setup. With this being said. I would never give up my diesel generator for nothing nor would I live in a place that I could not have a fossil fuel generator. Maybe they will let you put up a windmill for power if need be 🤣. But with this system it will cut down consumption of fossil fuels. You do have a great system, just get the 30 amp cable so you can charge the batteries faster with the solar panels and your golden. Thank you for taking your time to show us the setup Let’s just hope you don’t have to put it to use.
Hi Adam, if you installed a solar PV (roof mounted panel system), you could use that during the day and then use the Bluetti system when the sun goes down and essentially be off grid for the majority of the time. Obviously depends on how much sunlight you get. Here in Brisbane, Australia sunlight is not usually a problem and we get a "feed in tarriff" which pays us a nominal $$ for surplus electricity we generate from our PV panels and feed back to the grid. Love the videos, how is the pond going??
I would have to research the system you installed, but on our homestead we have 4-freezers and two refrigerators going, along with electric water heater and appliances and AC as well. As it is now we only run our generator for essential stuff, no hot water no AC or main oven.
Excellent video…I’ve been looking at a similar system and had all the same questions….i am also looking forward to the testing using the panels to charge while using the system….also how long will it take to recharge from your gas generator and how long to recharge using nothing but panels….👍🏻
$10K is definitely a nice chunk of change but is there a point where you can recoup your costs if you have the ability to switch between grid power and the backup batteries charged by the solar panels? I understand the main purpose is having backup power in the event of an outage but maybe the ability to save by not using grid power will help lighten the financial burden in the long run. Asking more out of curiosity than having any background on it. I’m sure there’s a lot to consider
Inverter generator will give clean power the light will not flick - the AC500 and battery are a very clean solution. I have some UPS installed on some circuits so the switch is transparent and automatique
Nice job guys. Few concerns… 1) what does the mfg recommend for battery static SOC (state of charge)? Most Li-ion recommend @50% to maintain battery longevity. If you’re not going to use it every day like a Tesla powerwall, you’ll need to keep packs at 1/2 capacity. 2) from question 1, would a Tesla powerwall be a better investment for folks looking to go this path? 3) would a electric vehicle with Vehicle to grid or just 240 vac output be a better option? If someone is going to spend 10-15k on 12kW batteries would it be wiser to go 40-60k and get a mobile battery in the 70-130kW range?
I would be really surprised if you could do 4 days on and off with these, unless you had extremely low power consumption inside. Your average house would be using somewhere north of 20kWh of power under normal loads. Even just what you showed you were pulling in the video, ~2,400 watts, you'd drain 12kWh in about 5 hours. Consider that your average home, to offset all the power needs, is putting up anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 watts of solar, and you're expecting 840 watts to do half, it tells the story of why it isn't realistic. However, in a blackout situation, that pack would be great to keep on the essentials for about a week, and you could cut the breakers to areas that don't need power. You could run lights, fans, and keep your fridge and freezer cool. Not sure if you can charge while running A/C, but if the panels could supplement during the day, you could push the power a lot further.
Yes, I'd be interested in the follow-up testing videos. What is the lifespan of the batteries? I have car batteries and cordless-drill batteries that only last 5 or 6 years?
Hey Adam. Great video! You brought up a great point for neighbor Doug's mother living in a condo community. Many prohibit the use of back up or standby generators. Can you charge the battery system from the grid and have an automatic converter for power disruptions that draws from the battery and switches back to the grid when power is restored?
You have to look at the wattage you are drawing on each and divide that into the total watt hours to see how long it will run. I don’t think it will run 4 days with air conditioners but certainly I’d you are mostly using lights. This is just from my experience with my solar and batteries at camp. My system is 27.5KWHs
Adam, curious if you have an update on your Bluetti backup system. Did you use it this last winter? Have you used it here in Summer with the Solar? Curious how it's working out for you.
Okey, how do those batteries recharge if your not using solar? Also my house has a heat pump and well. Not sure how that would work with batteries. I use a 10k generator that has very clean electricity. Every thing works well when running it. I do have to be care because my home is all electric and we can overload the 10k if we try.
But one thing Adam you didn't explain how you were going to charge those power banks and you talk about clean energy are you using a generator or solar
Any idea what the costs are for battery replacement? The one thing that concerns me about EV's is the cost of replacing batteries, as they don't last forever.
Is there a life to the batteries? How often would you need to replace the batteries? I’m trying to think if the diesel backup lasts 25-50 yrs if taken care of but the same cost batteries are replaced every 10 yrs (that’s a guess) and hold less and less power over time, would the generator be better.
All fine & dandy until a battery malfunction happens and it burns your house down. Be sure to notify your homeowners insurance that you had the system installed. These kinds of battery backup systems and electric vehicles are causing some people's homeowners insurance to skyrocket, and rightfully so. The technology is just not quite there yet.
No earthquakes here in this part of PA . I don’t think that there has been any in Adams lifetime. I remember one small shudder in the 1980’s. So that risk is extremely rare.
Hi Adam, I’m Francois from Quebec Canada, been following a a while and more since you’re in fully in You Tube 👍, Question : is there an automatic transfer switch with this Bleuitti setup?
So the breaker for the generator outlet is only 30A - don't you have like 100A or something coming in from the utility company? Will be interesting to see if you end up being short on power to run everything when you do your whole home 4 day test.
Adam / Kyle - If I missed you covering this , my bad. If the battery “packs” were not being recharged by solar panels, how do they get recharged after being used for a period of time ? Thnx…
I'm not sure what I missed here, but I didn't see enough breakers in that panel to power the entire house. It also doesn't seem like 30 amps is enough to get the job done. Could you explain some of this a bit more?
When we added the garage addition to the house we created a new main panel in the garage. So we have one 200amp breaker going to our house panel in the basement. So basically the entire house is on one breaker in the garage which is then parsed out into 20 or so different breakers in the basement. The only breakers in the garage are for the garage
@HometownAcres thanks Adam, that covered what I thought might be the case, but I didn't want to assume anything. Now the 30 amps, is that just to cover basic necessity items? An electric stove, dryer or heat pump would max that out.
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Dude, you two sitting on the shelf, that’s PRICELESS! Well done.
You are right, Harold!! The song was perfect - great sense of humor!!
Something to consider is having a flashlight nearby or a wall mounted battery powered emergency light.
I have a few small inexpensive battery powered motion detector lights in my garage to assist my path in the dark as I make my way to the garage light switch. Simple night light game changers.
Nice install Kyle, where's the wife and beer? Great info Adam it gives me a lot to think about.
They were back home. I was really missing the beer. Wife too of course.
Excellent explanations and great installation! Well done gentlemen!!!
Ive been thinkin of ways to make it easier on my parents and i think adam gave me the perfect solution. Im interested to see the videos on the charging of the batteries
They threw you under the bus.... saying you crashed into the telephone pole! haha
These interactions remind me of when my buddy would show up at my old job and we'd be stuck working together (he's a plumber) it's always great when you actually get along with the guys you work with 😂
“Material Run” …lol!
What a great system Adam. Now you actually have redundant backup systems because you still have the gasoline powered generator. It's also very nice that you have a great electrician to help you out when you need him. I expect that Doug will have the same system installed pretty soon. Stay safe, healthy and warm. Bill H from Cranberry Township
Hay Bill, say hi to the Morgans for me :-))
That's a pretty cool setup. Nice work guys!
Also, the best friend bit at 7:35 was great 😂😂😂
Adam the inverters are good , and way better than most small gasoline generators, but the power output from a good diesel generator with a real synchronous motor is just better than any inverter. I do like these battery systems, good options and great video by the way
First of all... loved the interaction and ball busting and jokes! 😆👍 Second, my wife and I have been talking about a whole house backup system and this video really makes me think solar/battery is definitely the way to go. Thank for all the pro/cons. Really informative video 😁👍
You might want to re-think that if you have a heat pump or AC system because his setup won't run those. Not enough current supply when it starts. You can install a "soft starter" in the heat pump or AC but it still requires a pretty good amount of current to start.
This system is capable of putting out 10,000 watts, same as my gas generator. Both of these would be more limited by the 30 amp cord which I think would bottle neck it down to 7,500 watts. Probably still enough to run the devices you are talking about. My wife ran a load of laundry and use our electric dryer and the bluettie powered it just fine
Youve made me think about making sure mom and dad are safe and have a good backup power... thank you!! I appreciate you both for the information and the comedic side of things!!! Thanks again
I just did something very similar with my 1 Blluetti AC500. I've got a new house, so i had the electrician wire the house so the Bluetti AC500 provided power as a UPS to my critical loads (freezers, frig, heater (gas), Energy Recovery Ventilator (ERV) and one bank of lights. It doesn't provide power to our well because it's only a 120v power source and the pump is 240v. I also have a 420w solar panel (the exact same one you have) which will provide solar power to the Bluetti. I also have the Bluetti receiving AC power from the grid while operating in a Grid on mode, and from my gas/propane generator when using the generator (and which will provide power to the well pump). I plan on using my Bluetti in my 5th wheel so I had the house wired so that when the Bluetti is gone (with me in my 5th wheel), and the power goes out, my neighbor (in my case my son) can plug in the generator and it will power the entire house.
I had to have a Ul approved generator switch box installed so that my Bluetti can't provide power to the house when the house is in generator mode, but the generator can provide power to the Bluetti to charge it. As for the well pump I'm looking into a 120v pump that will draw water from my well and pressurize the pressure tank in my house. I've found a pump that can pump water 25' high, and my well is only 11' deep and has a 140 gallons per minute refresh rate. The well sits about 4' below the level of the house so the water is 15' deep (say 17' so the pump is in the water), so I'm confident this system would work if needed.
You might want to see about having your generator hooked up so that when it's running it can charge your Bluetti. Pretty simple add on to the system you've already got and it would put you back on the Bluetti for main power faster than your solar panels could recharge them.
Love your channel, thanks for sharing.
Outside of the initial costs, this is actually a very slick system, great video Adam.
Nice set-up Adam. May have to do some research on those backup systems. Stay safe.
Hi Adam, great video, was a bit “shocked” to see you yet again allowing a friend to do all the work………
hi there interesting ,been looking into them also .like the solar input . but would want a daily return ,10 grand just waiting for an outage works on my mind , but if you could run 25% of you house on a daily bases then you would be getting a better return on you investment , .best to all john
I like how to you started to work some humor into your videos, kept my attention. Doing great job.
I now feel obligated to subscribe to Kyle’s channel
Much respect for you and Kyle. Professional all the way.
You guys work great together, great job and great video!!
Nice to see Kyle!
Thanks Adam. Can’t wait for the additional testing results.
Those power stations (Is that what they're called??) are such a blessing, & your friend is, too!! God bless y'all! 🙏💞
Nice setup! One question though - are you limited to 30 amp output since it’s on the 30 amp breaker? With our all-electric house, we would eat up 30 amps pretty quickly. With our current generator system, I have to turn some breakers off so that the baseboard heat doesn’t kick on, or the water heater and water well at the same time, etc.
Not sure why they did 30A instead of 50A, maybe that's just what they already had. those AC500 units can output 5000W (each) continuous, so you could definitely pull 50A off it for a bit.
That's a pretty good system Adam. Thank you for the information.
Have a great week,take care and God Bless you and yours!!!❤😊
Mentioned at the end about the efficiency of the battery compared to the generator, but another comment on that is when generator is recharging the batteries it will be a constant load so your generator is going to be more efficient.
My thought too. Get the most out of the generator vs 80% here and 40% there.
Great explanation Adam. As battery and solar technology continues to improve, and cost comes down, I think gas generators will become obsolete.
Hmmm...I read 2 days each backup power from the slide you posted.....which is assuming you only use 3kwh of the available 6kwh from each one. You have a total of 12kwh there, which would power our small house for about 1/2 a day. To charge back up with 800w of solar will take about 16-18 hours of good sun. It's a nice system, just not as much power as you'll likely need. One other point of using the gas genny to charge the batteries is that you're putting "dirty" (modified sine wave) power into the inverter and getting "clean" (pure sine wave) power out, so that's a bonus. Surprised you don't need to keep them plugged in to keep the batteries "topped up".
Looks like the inverter boxes also have 5 kWh each as well, so that gets you to 22 kWh. Which would power my house for about 2 days.
Hmmm....not from the link provided in the description. It says the AC500 requires the B300. The package with one AC500 and 2 B300's says it's 6144wh. The 5kw is what the inverter is capable of I think.....
@@earlzathome ooo , maybe I read it wrong.
Hard to believe they think 12 kWh would last people 4 days... Has to be some kind of best case scenario with solar also recharging throughout the day
@@richarddabkowski2896 Yeah the wife and I are empty nesters, heat solely with wood, and we're still around 16-20kwh/day.....Electric everything though and we're home most of the day.
What is Kyle's youtube channel? I didn't catch it. He is very knowledgable.
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Enjoyed the install and looks like it will work well for you.
Good stuff Adam, this is answering a lot of questions for me.
Great video and explanation with, the pros and cons.
Redundancy is a good thing to have. Thanks Kyle and Adam, definitely want to hear your feedback after testing.. ❤
That's awesome! The only problem I see with the 4 days on, 4 days off scenario is that you may end up draining most of your battery then have an actual power outage and your batteries are not charged. Perhaps go to 50% battery, then switch back to grid power, and so on so there is always something left in case you need it. That way I'd think you still save the same amount of power over the course of a month but not risk being near 0% charge when an actual power outage occurs.
Should a real emergency arise he has the gas generator that can top off the batteries quick.
I love how cheesy you two are. it's hilarious
GOOOOOD
MORNING EVERYONE!!….thanks for sharing. I’m very interested to see how your testing of the system…draining the batteries (how long)? Recharging the batteries (how long)?
Solar panel charging (how long)?
Have a day!
Great video! Two 6'5" references! Nice setup too.
Timely information and ideas, Adam. 👍
Very nice system and great explanation of how it works.
Great video Adam, very educational
There are cold climate accessories available for the generacs that would work for others, they keep the mother oil and the starting battery warm. They do help. Blessings
Adam only looks taller then Kyle because he is clearly standing closer to the camera! This is a nice setup and I'd love something similar one day, well done gents! I'm also curious if your AC500 will recharge from generator because my Bluetti EB3A will not charge off generator power since it is "dirty" power.
Interesting. I’ve got a Bluetti AC200 and two AC50s and they charge fine off my gas generator. I run the gas generator during the day to power critical circuits and charge the batteries, which I use overnight to run the fridge and freezers.
With the front of your house facing south west, a great investment would be to place a 4kw system on the garage roof. You could also place 4 panels on the pitch facing south east to get the morning sun. I have PV here in the UK 🇬🇧 and it saves me a fortune. As power prices rise the payback is quicker.
Those panels are so ugly though. I wish they made them built-in to the shingles so they can't be seen.
@@RVBob my pure black panels look mighty impressive, 400l hot water tank sits at 90*c all day long. Hot tub powered during day light hours. Best investment I made. Oil fired boiler does not be used at all to heat water from mid March through to October. When I’m in my house I am not looking at my roof.
@@garethnelson6863 I wasn't being critical of their functionality. I just don't like their looks.
Here in Pennsylvania where I live they are popping up all over the place. I had a guy come try to get me to put them on my roof. I would have had monthly payments for 20 years, and the electricity they made wouldn't be mine, it would belong to the utility which would credit my bill some for what they produced. It's a complete scam around here.
@@RVBob fair enough, but I bought my panels outright. I would not be without them. For you in PA you will get more sun than me in a wet and dull Northern Ireland
@@garethnelson6863 I might consider them if I was allowed to buy them and all the electricity they produced was mine.
Here, it is just a scam. The utility wants ME to pay for them using my roof space to generate more electricity that I wouldn't even own.
If I may ask, how much did you spend per panel? Installation costs? Battery storage costs?
Very good information - Great video Again!
Good job!
4 days would impress me. Curious to see how it performs in the test. One benefit not mentioned about a whole house gas/propane generator is that it goes on and off automatically. If you are not home to push buttons, sump pumps stop working and furnaces don’t turn on.
Would love to hear an update or review after two months of use on the Bluetti system. Thanks for the great videos.
Great Vid buddy!
Excellent video Adam. System looks really nice. Go Dukes.
Best wishes for a safe and happy Thanksgiving 🦃.
Very nice presentation today.
Nice install Adam and Kyle, I would imagine that if you had Led Lights in the house and a 12V fridge, during an electrical power emergency, you could set up an alternative low power backup system that would extend your backup power availability. 😀👍👍👍
Yes I agree
Adam nice video, don't get your hopes up too much. These batteries with an inverter kind of work, but if you are able to charge with your generator without something to stabilizing the power in, to charge the batteries. I have the AC300 with w B300 and been having problems with charging with some solar panels I had. I called Bluetti and they did not want to help. I have to reset the solar plug to get any kind of real solar charging, but after a while with the battery still down a lot it drops down to the lower watts until I reset the connector again. I hope they have fixed these problems on the newer units. Jim
GREAT video.. thx boys
Anker just came out with a split phase all in one unit -F3800 … much less cost and it’s expandable to 26kwh
One of the best videos yet Adam. I have to say though you are taking a bit of a backseat when it gets practical. Do Bluetti supply in the UK?
Nice job!
Nice video guys.
Just so you know the inverters do use power even without drawing wattage,there are some shortcomings there.
Also sorry but you are not getting four days on those unless you are absolutely only using bare essentials.
Maybe Kyle can answer this:Some people had problems when using the split fusion setup.
When charging off the grid,some guys blew either the AC300 or the 240v machinery they were using.
Apparently the AC300 has a floating neutral but once they grid charged while using the units a problem arose.
Obviously the bluetti units cannot be grounded as they are in a plastic case.
Somehow the neutral caused a problem once tied into the grid.
I’m not an electrician so I don’t know but it sounded like there was no actual safe way to stay up to code installing these.
I have a set and am still researching.
I am not electrical engineer by all means.
But there is now way you can run a whole house for 4 days. I have the AC300 with 3 batteries and from my experience I consume 1 battery each day for just running my freezers, fridge, internet and electronics in my house. Does not include water well, stove or air conditioning. But if you put up 2400 watts of solar for the solar generator and add in the DC mini split with its solar panels I believe this would be a great setup.
With this being said. I would never give up my diesel generator for nothing nor would I live in a place that I could not have a fossil fuel generator. Maybe they will let you put up a windmill for power if need be 🤣. But with this system it will cut down consumption of fossil fuels.
You do have a great system, just get the 30 amp cable so you can charge the batteries faster with the solar panels and your golden.
Thank you for taking your time to show us the setup Let’s just hope you don’t have to put it to use.
Hi Adam, if you installed a solar PV (roof mounted panel system), you could use that during the day and then use the Bluetti system when the sun goes down and essentially be off grid for the majority of the time. Obviously depends on how much sunlight you get. Here in Brisbane, Australia sunlight is not usually a problem and we get a "feed in tarriff" which pays us a nominal $$ for surplus electricity we generate from our PV panels and feed back to the grid. Love the videos, how is the pond going??
Great content. Could you do an automatic transfer switch? If so how much would that add?
I would have to research the system you installed, but on our homestead we have 4-freezers and two refrigerators going, along with electric water heater and appliances and AC as well. As it is now we only run our generator for essential stuff, no hot water no AC or main oven.
I have a ecoflow for running my fridge. No solar attached it ran almost 3 days. If blue etti gave me a system, I would use it to.
Excellent video…I’ve been looking at a similar system and had all the same questions….i am also looking forward to the testing using the panels to charge while using the system….also how long will it take to recharge from your gas generator and how long to recharge using nothing but panels….👍🏻
$10K is definitely a nice chunk of change but is there a point where you can recoup your costs if you have the ability to switch between grid power and the backup batteries charged by the solar panels?
I understand the main purpose is having backup power in the event of an outage but maybe the ability to save by not using grid power will help lighten the financial burden in the long run. Asking more out of curiosity than having any background on it. I’m sure there’s a lot to consider
Inverter generator will give clean power the light will not flick - the AC500 and battery are a very clean solution. I have some UPS installed on some circuits so the switch is transparent and automatique
Nice job guys. Few concerns…
1) what does the mfg recommend for battery static SOC (state of charge)?
Most Li-ion recommend @50% to maintain battery longevity. If you’re not going to use it every day like a Tesla powerwall, you’ll need to keep packs at 1/2 capacity.
2) from question 1, would a Tesla powerwall be a better investment for folks looking to go this path?
3) would a electric vehicle with Vehicle to grid or just 240 vac output be a better option? If someone is going to spend 10-15k on 12kW batteries would it be wiser to go 40-60k and get a mobile battery in the 70-130kW range?
Interesting product. Is it possible that with the solar panels you could be charging during the day and be completely off grid?
Unistrut is like a Swiss Army knife.
also if you need, you have two portable systems that you can take with you , a generac is a perm install
I would be really surprised if you could do 4 days on and off with these, unless you had extremely low power consumption inside. Your average house would be using somewhere north of 20kWh of power under normal loads. Even just what you showed you were pulling in the video, ~2,400 watts, you'd drain 12kWh in about 5 hours. Consider that your average home, to offset all the power needs, is putting up anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 watts of solar, and you're expecting 840 watts to do half, it tells the story of why it isn't realistic.
However, in a blackout situation, that pack would be great to keep on the essentials for about a week, and you could cut the breakers to areas that don't need power. You could run lights, fans, and keep your fridge and freezer cool. Not sure if you can charge while running A/C, but if the panels could supplement during the day, you could push the power a lot further.
Just a heads up. If you are pulling 1500w off one side and 2 batteries have 6000Wh of storage then the will be flat in 4 hours not 4 days.
Also, the price of these can come down even more with the Government rebates on solar battery systems
Country view acres also did back up power you would enjoy watching him set his system up
Yes, I'd be interested in the follow-up testing videos.
What is the lifespan of the batteries?
I have car batteries and cordless-drill batteries that only last 5 or 6 years?
800 solar will take a while. You will be making a solar array soon.
Can you trickle charge the power station continuously?
You could add more solar panels and a wind turbine.
Hey Adam. Great video! You brought up a great point for neighbor Doug's mother living in a condo community. Many prohibit the use of back up or standby generators. Can you charge the battery system from the grid and have an automatic converter for power disruptions that draws from the battery and switches back to the grid when power is restored?
Kyle didn't FALL.
Curious about what difference the solar pannels will give!
You have to look at the wattage you are drawing on each and divide that into the total watt hours to see how long it will run. I don’t think it will run 4 days with air conditioners but certainly I’d you are mostly using lights. This is just from my experience with my solar and batteries at camp. My system is 27.5KWHs
Adam, curious if you have an update on your Bluetti backup system. Did you use it this last winter? Have you used it here in Summer with the Solar? Curious how it's working out for you.
Okey, how do those batteries recharge if your not using solar? Also my house has a heat pump and well. Not sure how that would work with batteries. I use a 10k generator that has very clean electricity. Every thing works well when running it. I do have to be care because my home is all electric and we can overload the 10k if we try.
But one thing Adam you didn't explain how you were going to charge those power banks and you talk about clean energy are you using a generator or solar
Should have done two elves on a shelf.
That’s 😂😂😂
How do the battery packs stay charged?
Any idea what the costs are for battery replacement? The one thing that concerns me about EV's is the cost of replacing batteries, as they don't last forever.
Is there a life to the batteries? How often would you need to replace the batteries? I’m trying to think if the diesel backup lasts 25-50 yrs if taken care of but the same cost batteries are replaced every 10 yrs (that’s a guess) and hold less and less power over time, would the generator be better.
Nice video how do you charge the AC500 from the grid power you did not install the extra plug
There is a 120v plug that you can charge each system independently from the grid
All fine & dandy until a battery malfunction happens and it burns your house down.
Be sure to notify your homeowners insurance that you had the system installed.
These kinds of battery backup systems and electric vehicles are causing some people's homeowners insurance to skyrocket, and rightfully so. The technology is just not quite there yet.
Great video but how do you want to go off grid with this system when you already pull 2kw from it. The battery will last only a couple of hours.
What happens if an earthquake? will all those units fall off that shelf or are they screwed down?.... Good job boys!
No earthquakes here in this part of PA . I don’t think that there has been any in Adams lifetime. I remember one small shudder in the 1980’s. So that risk is extremely rare.
Good point! I was more concerned about a meteor strike though.
Hi Adam, I’m Francois from Quebec Canada, been following a a while and more since you’re in fully in You Tube 👍,
Question : is there an automatic transfer switch with this Bleuitti setup?
What are you running on that? Entire house? AC, heat, pump?
Can you charge the batteries with the backup generator while the system is running?
Adam. Why can't you leave the battery backup plugged in if your breaker is turned off?
I suppose you could.
So the breaker for the generator outlet is only 30A - don't you have like 100A or something coming in from the utility company? Will be interesting to see if you end up being short on power to run everything when you do your whole home 4 day test.
Other than the solar option how do you charge the batteries?
You can charge with grid power
Adam / Kyle -
If I missed you covering this , my bad. If the battery “packs” were not being recharged by solar panels, how do they get recharged after being used for a period of time ? Thnx…
You can recharge using a regular wall outlet as well
Can you make a parts list for the unistrut items? Those brackets are nice. I'd like to duplicate this.
I'm not sure what I missed here, but I didn't see enough breakers in that panel to power the entire house. It also doesn't seem like 30 amps is enough to get the job done. Could you explain some of this a bit more?
When we added the garage addition to the house we created a new main panel in the garage. So we have one 200amp breaker going to our house panel in the basement. So basically the entire house is on one breaker in the garage which is then parsed out into 20 or so different breakers in the basement. The only breakers in the garage are for the garage
@@HometownAcres So the house breaker box is essentially a 200 amp sub-panel off the garage main panel now? Nice!
@HometownAcres thanks Adam, that covered what I thought might be the case, but I didn't want to assume anything. Now the 30 amps, is that just to cover basic necessity items? An electric stove, dryer or heat pump would max that out.